The brightness setting you shared is great! I have an XP-Pen Artist 13.3 Pro and what you said is true. Whenever I set mine to 100% it intermittently gets a black screen.
@@MrBooghyMan Yes, I think so too. I agree that it's uncomfortable working with the warmth the 100% brightness settings bring. I'm following David's setting or even lower the brightness to 65 or 60.
Thanks for the feedback, a big month later it is still the one I use daily on my desk and I still like it. I updated the blog in December with few observations here and there, or with more infos. But nothing to report in bad so far. I hope the durability of the device will be good (this is always a part impossible to test).
@@DavidRevoy I should get my tablet on friday. I have an old Thinkpad Yoga and need a replacement. I saw you recommend to use X11 and saw the KDE Bug list. I hope it works with Gnome Wayland, but if not, then i am going to try X11 too. I don't draw, i just need it for math.
I am posting an update, if anyone is looking for information about the tablet and gnome wayland. It is working without any problems in debian 12. I just had to install the driver from their website and restart the computer. i was also able to recalibrate the tablet. but i didn't test pressure or tilt, as i don't need it and disabled it. I am using the brightness at 75% as you recommended on website and it doesn't get too warm
Got this as my first display tablet ever, and have absolutely no regrets! The lag was one of number one worries when choosing a product and it has left me very satisfied in that regard. I also absolutely loved your art, thank you very much for the video.
Oh nice! I still also use this tablet as my main. Not a single scratch on the screen (and all cats of the house tried to glide on it with claws) and the pen is robust so far.
Excellent contenus, voilà qui me rassure étant possesseur d'un Artist 22R pro souhaitant prochainement retourner sous Debian + Krita car je suis excédé de Microsoft. Sa manque sur la toile les artistes qui mettent en avant le logiciel libre, certainement à cause de la nécessité d'être un peu geek. Xp Pen font vraiment de très bon produit, je ne regrette pas une seconde mon achat ^^. Bonne continuation!!
Merci ! Juste pour le plaisir de partager une reflexion sur la necessité d'être un peu geek: Certes, ca aide, mais presque tout est documenté et puisque je vois aussi des sacrées bidouilleurs, geeks et workaround sur Mac et Microsoft, j'ai pas l'impression que ça serait un problème de compétence pour commu de graphistes de passer sous une distro Linux un peu bien foutu (encore il faudrait que ça existe). Ils et elles sont capables largement à mon avis si il y avait plein de tutos. Si il y avait surtout la motivation de faire ça pour plus de revenus, ça ferait longtemps que tout le monde utiliserait ça sans pointer cette difficulté à mon avis. :D J'ai souvent l'impression que cette non-adoption en masse vient plutôt du milieu extrement compétitif de l'art (pas forcement une réalité, plus un "vécue comme telle" quand on se lance) qui fait que la plus part ne cherchent pas à prendre quelquechose qui pourrait être ne serait-ce que 1% ou 2% inférieur , que ce soit en terme de temps à bidouiller ou installer ou en nombre de fonctionnalité. Les critère d'universalité, "d'industrie standard" sont le plus souvent avancé. Pas la difficulté de geekery d'un produit. Avec certaines solutions libre super difficiles mais adopté comme étant à l'avantage des artistes (eg. Blender 3D) la question ne se pose plus. Pourtant, faut être sacrement geek pour bidouiller du Blender. Après tous les open-movies auxquels j'ai participé, j'en sais quelquechose. C'est pour ça que je pense que l'on est dans simplement une course à choisir "la meilleure solution" ou "le meilleur outil" en terme de résultat et productivité plutôt qu'une question de difficulté. Ce qui est certains: lire de la documentation, s'habituter à d'autres pratiques prends du temps; et ce temps n'est pas productif. Je pense que c'est là que viennent les rejets et le vécue comme il faut être 'geek'. Il faut simplement changer de culture numérique, Windows/Mac étant tout aussi complexe à mon avis. En ce qui concerne celles et ceux qui définissent le "meilleur outil" à notre époque, et bien, c' est bien sure suggestif à mon avis et ça peut être problématique. Comme les marques payent les influenceurs pour utiliser des logiciels (j'ai eu des propositions de la part des logiciels phares; toutes refusés) on atteint un système de prescription de ce "meilleur" qui va demander beaucoup de sens critique aux utilisateurs et utilisatrices pour se former leur propres opinions et sortir des autoroutes de prêt-à-penser que des compagnies sont en train d'instaurer. Bref, j'avais envie de penser un peu sur le sujet en réponse et partager ça xD ...
This is a question I'll can only reply in 6 month from here. After two weeks, the screen doesn't have a single micro scratch or visible sign of friction and I'm using the tablet a lot of hours. I also got a case of my cat trying to put claws on it to prevent sliding on it, and its claws didn't damaged the overlay. But yes, I have no idea how this device will get old; for the heat, for the plug, for the overlay, or the stylus. This is a part no review can tell.
This is very useful!! Would the same technical problems appear with the newest models? I am a heavy Linux User and I am sticking to wacom because of its stability in terms of Software/Drivers, but the newest Artist Pro 24 Gen 2 are getting my attention...
Hey, probably yes; the whole 'Pro gen2' series might be affected by the same issues (mainly the second button of the stylus reporting itself as a "eraser mode", not a big thing with the workaround but it might not work for all model of the series). I received an hour ago the 19 Pro gen 2; I'll test it soon and report all I can find about it ; finger crossed for all my hack to be easy to adapt (eg. like just changing 16 to 19 in the code).
I've a tablet Xp-pen deco mini7 but the feeling when writting is not good, so is artist pro 16 (gen2) same? My purposes are drawing and good take note to study. I really hope you can help me anwser this!
@@thuhoanganh7993 Yes, this is a really good hardware for precision. It's not as precise as a sharp pencil (or 0.3 mechanical pencil, or thin ink gel pen or pen nib) but no technology are that precise right now in 2024. But in term of tablet and stylus, the XPpen "gen2" Pro Artist series are really very responsive, smooth, and you can write with them (here I could emulate in Krita with a thin preset my handwriting, but I'm used to the thickness of the stylus). My favorite open source app for taking note is xournalpp.github.io/ and it works well with this tablet.
Hey, yes, but I think I still have a lot of time: Wayland itself might get better but Krita is still a X11 software emulated with XWayland, and I can still feel the slight lag while painting or spot some specific bug (on Krita bug report, there is a lot open, but it might be for Krita 6.x , when Krita will go Qt6 that has an easier support for Wayland.). Also, many of the hack I do here are X11 based, and Wayland is not a replacement for X11 as you might know. All input part were delegated to other project like libinput, and the whole philosophy is different now: devs got sick of watching blog post like I do with workaround to make device work. So, the new philosophy is to force the contribution of device support at the root on the project. I think this new architecture is stupid, because user like me 'tweak' but don't code. And if someone has a device who doesn't work, it might be too big to commit to a big library at root of the system and rebuild it manually and wait for the code to be accepted/reviewed and merged, and packaged. (probably a year before the tweak transforms into a real support). So yes, not sure it will be a good thing for the community and for new device in the future. Except if the vendor contributes ahead releasing product directly, something they never made over the last 20 years... hehe.
Thank you. Still my main on my desk, painted 10h non stop yesterday with it, nothing changed. The overlay is great. Check the blog post, I added updates over the last month. (mainly improved way to setup on Linux)
Hey, I have nothing as a measurement tool to check how many nits or candela/m² the brightness really has. We'll have to trust the specification given by Xppen on this one.
What type of machine do you work with and what are its specs? I’ve been considering switching to full AMD build, well at least I know that the GPU will be far easier on Linux, as currently on Intel/Nvidia and Nvidia has given me headaches on certain distros when I was fully on Linux, more so with rolling release distros.
Hey, true for AMD GPU (and rolling distro), I'll never go back Nvidia. You can find all the spec of my current machine on my blog: www.davidrevoy.com/article806/review-my-digital-painting-workstation-pc-on-gnu-linux , I'm on Debian 12 since the start of the year; and this distro is so peaceful: once everything is installed as I like, it just stays like that. With Flatpak on the top for update of my software, it's really zen for my productivity.
Hi! I really like your review! But I have a question. What is the 3 in 1 cable used for? Doesn’t it include its own cable in the box? I’m considering buying this tablet, but I want to know if I need to buy that additional 3 in 1 cable or not. Thank you!
Hey, the tablet has inside the box a single USB-C to USB-C that does the job if you have a USB-C port that can sustain the power and data bandwidth of this tablet. My motherboard has such a port, and I tested and it works. But I want to preserve my power supply unit, so I prefer the 3 in 1 cable for now: one to electricity (USB), other to the display (hdmi, picture), other to the USB (data). It also simplify on Linux a little my life, since I prefer the command line option to do things with the HDMI output.
Are you using the 3 in cable or yhe usb c cable? On either i am getting the "no signal" problem wjth the display, though the pen works. Using XP pen drivers
Hey, I'm using the 3 in 1, but I tested both and both works (Fedora Linux KDE). The built-in display is an external monitor, so it is managed by your graphic card driver (and display settings in your OS).
I am looking for a tablet that is able to simulate mouse cursor with pen. Think of opening Kindle in the web browser and highlighting, annotating, etc. Does this support that functionality or is it only compatible with drawing apps? Thanks!
Hey, yes it is possible with this type of tablet: the stylus controls the mouse cursor on all the other app, and the button on the side of the stylus emulate a right-click. The driver with the tablet often let you adjust the buttons; a good setting is one that does a right click and the other one that press a middle click to pan or scroll.
No idea. Probably a graphic card issue for the video output, here I tested the Wayland session and it works (AMD/mesa free libre driver). But Krita on Xwayland has too many bugs and the GUI to configure the tablet doesn't have much options (eg. no calibration for parralax, pessure, etc). I'll continue X11 until Krita is fixed and tablet can setup properly.
@@DavidRevoy I switched to x11 session, but it seems that for digital artists it's hard to use linux systems I tried to set this tablet using your guide but stuck on scripting part, when I had to figure out how to output the image on tablet, then I took a 30 minutes break after which the system stopped to recognize the device I kinda like tinkering but I'm doing this for my gf she uses fedora, I bought her this tablet for Christmas, and if it is a problem for me to set this thing properly, I really doubt that she would be able to work with it on linux
@@bonk24b38 Also, next Fedora (40) will totally remove the X11 session. You can check raghukamath.com/setting-up-debian-linux-with-btrfs-kde-plasma-for-a-creative-workstation/ for a workaround and I'll also have to move. Oh yes, painting on GNU/Linux is difficult, I do it since 15 years and it's always an extra time budget.
@@DavidRevoy thank you for warning and info I'm using it for 6 months already (void btw) and I set up fedora for my gf Well, I'll try harder for her to be able to use linux for painting Your channel and blog help well in linux art tinkering I'll subscribe
@@bonk24b38 All my encouragements, and do not hesitate to share your tips anywhere on the web (quick blog/reddit/or a social network/forum) if you find something easy and cool. I still have to test opentabletdriver.net/ here, it looks promising ! :)
Bonsoir David, si tu possède toujours le modèle Artist 24, peux tu me dire si le nouveau stylet serait par hasard compatible ou non avec l'ancien modèle de tablette? J'aimerai bien avoir ces pointes de stylet "touché rugueux" mais elle ne sont pas disponible pour l'ancien stylet... merci
Salut! Alors non, ce n'est pas compatible. C'est comme si on avait affaire à une autre génération: les encoches/retrécissements ne sont pas pareil. Les pointes texturés sont assez étranges: sur un autre revêtement plastique, elle paraissent comme de la bête feutrine compressé. C'est une combinaison avec le laminage de ce modèle. J'ai aussi essayé le stylet de la 24 Pro sur celle là et ça ne marche pas et pire encore: le plastique m'a fait l'effet au premier coup que ça pouvait rayer la seconde. Ca donne l'impression que la dureté des matériaux a été étudier pour que les pointes de la 16ProGen2 soient moins dure que le laminage. Au niveau des contraintes matériaux c'est un sacré boulot, ils ont bien bosser ce modèle. Je suis vraiment curieux de sa robustesse dans le temps. J'ai un peu plus de confiance car ça faisait depuis Avril que j'utilisai la 24 Pro à plein temps, et que même en lui en mettant plein la tête "ça passait". J'imagine que son talon d'achille a celle là serait son alim et sa possible chauffe (ce qui m'a fait mettre la luminosité à 75%).
100% for the Xppen Artist Pro 16 2nd gen: lower parralax, the laminated glass, the smooth tilt rotation, and a higher pixel density (quadHD16:10 packed in a 16inch screen). It also has a better ergonomic imo on desk. I really liked my XP-Pen Artist 24 Pro gen1, but it is really from another age: the overlay surface wasn't great (I had to replace mine), tilt had its favorite angle and wasn't smooth, the parralax was really equal to the first Cintiq (like the 21UX). I liked the "big" presence of the device on the desk, it screams to everyone "This is a big device PRO for artist!", but in reality it was also usable for me only once I connected a Cintweak keyboard support to it. I hope it helps!
Merci pour ce test ! Ça m'a vraiment aidé ! Je l'ai depuis a peu près 1 mois et j'en suis très contente ! Est ce que tu vas tester leur nouvelle tablette autonome ? J'aimerais beaucoup savoir si cette tablette + krita pourrait me convenir et comment ca se compare avec krita avec tablette avec écran sur l'ordinateur.
Merci pour le retour! Alors ici toujours également content de cette tablette, et en production sur un prochain episode de mon webcomic avec. J'ai pas vue la nouvelle tablette autonome, et je vais aller regarder (au cas ou ça fonctionnerai sous Linux, sous Windows ça m'interesserait pas perso), merci pour l'info!
@@laetitiam1901 Pas de soucis. Si c'est Android, ça va malheuresement pas être ma tasse de thé. Mais je vais aller regarder quand même au cas ou c'est possible de bidouiller dessus un système libre, sans mouchards et pisteurs.
(I also asked this on an older video but i thought it might not be too clever to ask under a 3 year old video) Can anyone help me? Everytime I apply flat paint to lineart on a normal layer, the color looks different from the color from the color picker. This is kinda annoying because I never get the color I want. Does someone know what this is and how to fix?
if you're talking about krita, then maybe check the option next to the brush (top left). I had the same problem and it turns out it was because mine was set to multiply or something else instrad of normal.
Hey, Fedora 39 KDE here, X11 session. Krita is not developped for native Wayland, and bug hard as a Xwayland windows (bad performances for painting, and freeze, bugs). I'll wait for Krita Qt6 to use Wayland. Fedora is going to be F40 Wayland only, I'll have to move after the end of F39...
Hi, it depends if you want FLOSS driver or proprietary, it depends also the xp pen tablets, it depends the desktop environment you choose on Manjaro, it depends X11 or Wayland, it depends also the stability of distribution (Arch/Manjaro often breaks stuff for user of tablets because main testers and dev don't own such devices or have workflow without tablets). Also, it depends kernel used. So, it depends on many things :)
Salut David, je m'appelle José, j'habite au Portugal, j'ai vu la vidéo sur TH-cam sur le XP Pen16, et j'ai une question, j'ai aussi Wacon Ituos Pro M, et j'aimerais savoir si je peux avoir le XP 16 et mon Wacon installés en simultané sur mon ordinateur ?, merci beaucoup d'avance, vous faites partie de mes artistes préférés.
Bonsoir, un grand merci! Alors ça va dépendre du système et des drivers. J'ai essayé ici avec X11 et Linux, et c'est possible mais ça le ne sera peut-être pas sur Mac, Windows ou Android (j'ai jamais testé). J'ai reussi à brancher l'intuos et mes deux XP-Pen en simultané sur mon Fedora Linux KDE, ça ne créait pas de noeuds. Sur cette page www.davidrevoy.com/article332/my-tablet-history-log-a-listing-of-all-the-tablet-i-tested-since-2002-update-2023 (que je dois mettre à jour) j'ai même sur la première photo quatres tablettes connectés :) (c'était pour du beta test sur Krita)
Salut David, très reconnaissant pour votre réponse rapide, je pense acheter le XP16 pour Noël et votre coupon m'aidera, je suis un utilisateur Ubuntu, est-ce que ça fonctionnera de la même manière que sur Fedora ?, merci beaucoup avancez pour attirer votre attention.@@DavidRevoy
Yes, but it is rare when a device has a good tilt support; sometime it is very angular, or the delay makes it hard to use it. On this model, it's fast and the number of angles makes it very smooth.
@DavidRevoy i watched the video cos i ordered the device. Tbh, i watched wo many of them i can't count, but because ppl moslty draw with round brushes, i haven't seen this feature. Thank you so much for making more indepth content. Now im even more excited to get my 16pro2ndgen baby
@@ioxellie Thanks! I hope you'll have a easy setup and good first impression on your first drawing. Here I'm using this tablet now as my main since last December and I'm super happy with it.
Oh yes, it's difficult. I saved my best one as PNG in high resolution, and now I tend to just reuse them over and over (same parrallal, concentric, etc).
If XPPen folks are tuning in to the replies, THANK YOU for thinking about Linux artists! Great review, David 🤩
Nice to see thats we have options for linux.
As a fellow Linux user, I really appreciate your review! I am currently using a Huion H640p tablet to do digital painting.
The brightness setting you shared is great! I have an XP-Pen Artist 13.3 Pro and what you said is true. Whenever I set mine to 100% it intermittently gets a black screen.
I have an Artist Pro 12 and mine also gets too warm for comfort. I guess it's a general issue.
@@MrBooghyMan Yes, I think so too. I agree that it's uncomfortable working with the warmth the 100% brightness settings bring. I'm following David's setting or even lower the brightness to 65 or 60.
@@MKCrystal I just double checked and mine was at 90%. Still too warm
Thank u so much for the video! I was unsure about buying an Artist Pro 16 2nd Gen, but just ordered one after watching your video.
Thanks for the feedback, a big month later it is still the one I use daily on my desk and I still like it. I updated the blog in December with few observations here and there, or with more infos. But nothing to report in bad so far. I hope the durability of the device will be good (this is always a part impossible to test).
@@DavidRevoy I should get my tablet on friday. I have an old Thinkpad Yoga and need a replacement. I saw you recommend to use X11 and saw the KDE Bug list. I hope it works with Gnome Wayland, but if not, then i am going to try X11 too. I don't draw, i just need it for math.
I am posting an update, if anyone is looking for information about the tablet and gnome wayland. It is working without any problems in debian 12. I just had to install the driver from their website and restart the computer. i was also able to recalibrate the tablet. but i didn't test pressure or tilt, as i don't need it and disabled it. I am using the brightness at 75% as you recommended on website and it doesn't get too warm
Merry Christmas David. 🎅🏽
Got this as my first display tablet ever, and have absolutely no regrets! The lag was one of number one worries when choosing a product and it has left me very satisfied in that regard. I also absolutely loved your art, thank you very much for the video.
Oh nice! I still also use this tablet as my main. Not a single scratch on the screen (and all cats of the house tried to glide on it with claws) and the pen is robust so far.
The best review so far. Very thorough.
Excellent contenus, voilà qui me rassure étant possesseur d'un Artist 22R pro souhaitant prochainement retourner sous Debian + Krita car je suis excédé de Microsoft. Sa manque sur la toile les artistes qui mettent en avant le logiciel libre, certainement à cause de la nécessité d'être un peu geek. Xp Pen font vraiment de très bon produit, je ne regrette pas une seconde mon achat ^^. Bonne continuation!!
Merci ! Juste pour le plaisir de partager une reflexion sur la necessité d'être un peu geek:
Certes, ca aide, mais presque tout est documenté et puisque je vois aussi des sacrées bidouilleurs, geeks et workaround sur Mac et Microsoft, j'ai pas l'impression que ça serait un problème de compétence pour commu de graphistes de passer sous une distro Linux un peu bien foutu (encore il faudrait que ça existe). Ils et elles sont capables largement à mon avis si il y avait plein de tutos. Si il y avait surtout la motivation de faire ça pour plus de revenus, ça ferait longtemps que tout le monde utiliserait ça sans pointer cette difficulté à mon avis. :D
J'ai souvent l'impression que cette non-adoption en masse vient plutôt du milieu extrement compétitif de l'art (pas forcement une réalité, plus un "vécue comme telle" quand on se lance) qui fait que la plus part ne cherchent pas à prendre quelquechose qui pourrait être ne serait-ce que 1% ou 2% inférieur , que ce soit en terme de temps à bidouiller ou installer ou en nombre de fonctionnalité. Les critère d'universalité, "d'industrie standard" sont le plus souvent avancé. Pas la difficulté de geekery d'un produit.
Avec certaines solutions libre super difficiles mais adopté comme étant à l'avantage des artistes (eg. Blender 3D) la question ne se pose plus. Pourtant, faut être sacrement geek pour bidouiller du Blender. Après tous les open-movies auxquels j'ai participé, j'en sais quelquechose.
C'est pour ça que je pense que l'on est dans simplement une course à choisir "la meilleure solution" ou "le meilleur outil" en terme de résultat et productivité plutôt qu'une question de difficulté. Ce qui est certains: lire de la documentation, s'habituter à d'autres pratiques prends du temps; et ce temps n'est pas productif. Je pense que c'est là que viennent les rejets et le vécue comme il faut être 'geek'. Il faut simplement changer de culture numérique, Windows/Mac étant tout aussi complexe à mon avis.
En ce qui concerne celles et ceux qui définissent le "meilleur outil" à notre époque, et bien, c' est bien sure suggestif à mon avis et ça peut être problématique. Comme les marques payent les influenceurs pour utiliser des logiciels (j'ai eu des propositions de la part des logiciels phares; toutes refusés) on atteint un système de prescription de ce "meilleur" qui va demander beaucoup de sens critique aux utilisateurs et utilisatrices pour se former leur propres opinions et sortir des autoroutes de prêt-à-penser que des compagnies sont en train d'instaurer. Bref, j'avais envie de penser un peu sur le sujet en réponse et partager ça xD ...
Amazing video! as an artist who uses linux these videos are incredibly helpful!
Thanks for the review... and the link to install it. I will have to get rid of my old Bamboo one of these days.😂
Thanks! 😉
Thank you David. I use Linux as well and it's nice not having to be married to just Wacom.
2:44 size is also bigger than my fifth gen iPad Air too.
Hi david. Would you recommend the colormunki smile colorimeter?
What about the screen over time? Will it be filled with scratches? I’m looking at this as my first screen tablet
This is a question I'll can only reply in 6 month from here. After two weeks, the screen doesn't have a single micro scratch or visible sign of friction and I'm using the tablet a lot of hours. I also got a case of my cat trying to put claws on it to prevent sliding on it, and its claws didn't damaged the overlay. But yes, I have no idea how this device will get old; for the heat, for the plug, for the overlay, or the stylus. This is a part no review can tell.
This is very useful!! Would the same technical problems appear with the newest models? I am a heavy Linux User and I am sticking to wacom because of its stability in terms of Software/Drivers, but the newest Artist Pro 24 Gen 2 are getting my attention...
Hey, probably yes; the whole 'Pro gen2' series might be affected by the same issues (mainly the second button of the stylus reporting itself as a "eraser mode", not a big thing with the workaround but it might not work for all model of the series). I received an hour ago the 19 Pro gen 2; I'll test it soon and report all I can find about it ; finger crossed for all my hack to be easy to adapt (eg. like just changing 16 to 19 in the code).
Thank you for your reviewing. But I wonder that Can I use this tablet to takenote through app note on PC, is it good enough?
I've a tablet Xp-pen deco mini7 but the feeling when writting is not good, so is artist pro 16 (gen2) same? My purposes are drawing and good take note to study. I really hope you can help me anwser this!
@@thuhoanganh7993 Yes, this is a really good hardware for precision. It's not as precise as a sharp pencil (or 0.3 mechanical pencil, or thin ink gel pen or pen nib) but no technology are that precise right now in 2024. But in term of tablet and stylus, the XPpen "gen2" Pro Artist series are really very responsive, smooth, and you can write with them (here I could emulate in Krita with a thin preset my handwriting, but I'm used to the thickness of the stylus). My favorite open source app for taking note is xournalpp.github.io/ and it works well with this tablet.
as wayland get better do you plan do update your guide/review?
Hey, yes, but I think I still have a lot of time: Wayland itself might get better but Krita is still a X11 software emulated with XWayland, and I can still feel the slight lag while painting or spot some specific bug (on Krita bug report, there is a lot open, but it might be for Krita 6.x , when Krita will go Qt6 that has an easier support for Wayland.).
Also, many of the hack I do here are X11 based, and Wayland is not a replacement for X11 as you might know. All input part were delegated to other project like libinput, and the whole philosophy is different now: devs got sick of watching blog post like I do with workaround to make device work. So, the new philosophy is to force the contribution of device support at the root on the project. I think this new architecture is stupid, because user like me 'tweak' but don't code. And if someone has a device who doesn't work, it might be too big to commit to a big library at root of the system and rebuild it manually and wait for the code to be accepted/reviewed and merged, and packaged. (probably a year before the tweak transforms into a real support). So yes, not sure it will be a good thing for the community and for new device in the future. Except if the vendor contributes ahead releasing product directly, something they never made over the last 20 years... hehe.
great review! update 9 months later?
Thank you. Still my main on my desk, painted 10h non stop yesterday with it, nothing changed. The overlay is great. Check the blog post, I added updates over the last month. (mainly improved way to setup on Linux)
Hi, how is the outside visibility, and what is the screen brightness?
Hey, I have nothing as a measurement tool to check how many nits or candela/m² the brightness really has. We'll have to trust the specification given by Xppen on this one.
What type of machine do you work with and what are its specs? I’ve been considering switching to full AMD build, well at least I know that the GPU will be far easier on Linux, as currently on Intel/Nvidia and Nvidia has given me headaches on certain distros when I was fully on Linux, more so with rolling release distros.
Hey, true for AMD GPU (and rolling distro), I'll never go back Nvidia. You can find all the spec of my current machine on my blog: www.davidrevoy.com/article806/review-my-digital-painting-workstation-pc-on-gnu-linux , I'm on Debian 12 since the start of the year; and this distro is so peaceful: once everything is installed as I like, it just stays like that. With Flatpak on the top for update of my software, it's really zen for my productivity.
Hi! I really like your review! But I have a question. What is the 3 in 1 cable used for? Doesn’t it include its own cable in the box? I’m considering buying this tablet, but I want to know if I need to buy that additional 3 in 1 cable or not. Thank you!
Hey, the tablet has inside the box a single USB-C to USB-C that does the job if you have a USB-C port that can sustain the power and data bandwidth of this tablet.
My motherboard has such a port, and I tested and it works. But I want to preserve my power supply unit, so I prefer the 3 in 1 cable for now: one to electricity (USB), other to the display (hdmi, picture), other to the USB (data). It also simplify on Linux a little my life, since I prefer the command line option to do things with the HDMI output.
Are you using the 3 in cable or yhe usb c cable? On either i am getting the "no signal" problem wjth the display, though the pen works. Using XP pen drivers
Hey, I'm using the 3 in 1, but I tested both and both works (Fedora Linux KDE).
The built-in display is an external monitor, so it is managed by your graphic card driver (and display settings in your OS).
I am looking for a tablet that is able to simulate mouse cursor with pen. Think of opening Kindle in the web browser and highlighting, annotating, etc. Does this support that functionality or is it only compatible with drawing apps? Thanks!
Hey, yes it is possible with this type of tablet: the stylus controls the mouse cursor on all the other app, and the button on the side of the stylus emulate a right-click. The driver with the tablet often let you adjust the buttons; a good setting is one that does a right click and the other one that press a middle click to pan or scroll.
Do anyone know how to set it up on Wayland? I have drivers, and the tablet is connected but it says no signal
No idea. Probably a graphic card issue for the video output, here I tested the Wayland session and it works (AMD/mesa free libre driver). But Krita on Xwayland has too many bugs and the GUI to configure the tablet doesn't have much options (eg. no calibration for parralax, pessure, etc). I'll continue X11 until Krita is fixed and tablet can setup properly.
@@DavidRevoy I switched to x11 session, but it seems that for digital artists it's hard to use linux systems
I tried to set this tablet using your guide but stuck on scripting part, when I had to figure out how to output the image on tablet, then I took a 30 minutes break after which the system stopped to recognize the device
I kinda like tinkering but I'm doing this for my gf she uses fedora, I bought her this tablet for Christmas, and if it is a problem for me to set this thing properly, I really doubt that she would be able to work with it on linux
@@bonk24b38 Also, next Fedora (40) will totally remove the X11 session. You can check raghukamath.com/setting-up-debian-linux-with-btrfs-kde-plasma-for-a-creative-workstation/ for a workaround and I'll also have to move. Oh yes, painting on GNU/Linux is difficult, I do it since 15 years and it's always an extra time budget.
@@DavidRevoy thank you for warning and info
I'm using it for 6 months already (void btw) and I set up fedora for my gf
Well, I'll try harder for her to be able to use linux for painting
Your channel and blog help well in linux art tinkering I'll subscribe
@@bonk24b38 All my encouragements, and do not hesitate to share your tips anywhere on the web (quick blog/reddit/or a social network/forum) if you find something easy and cool. I still have to test opentabletdriver.net/ here, it looks promising ! :)
Bonsoir David, si tu possède toujours le modèle Artist 24, peux tu me dire si le nouveau stylet serait par hasard compatible ou non avec l'ancien modèle de tablette? J'aimerai bien avoir ces pointes de stylet "touché rugueux" mais elle ne sont pas disponible pour l'ancien stylet... merci
Salut! Alors non, ce n'est pas compatible. C'est comme si on avait affaire à une autre génération: les encoches/retrécissements ne sont pas pareil. Les pointes texturés sont assez étranges: sur un autre revêtement plastique, elle paraissent comme de la bête feutrine compressé. C'est une combinaison avec le laminage de ce modèle. J'ai aussi essayé le stylet de la 24 Pro sur celle là et ça ne marche pas et pire encore: le plastique m'a fait l'effet au premier coup que ça pouvait rayer la seconde. Ca donne l'impression que la dureté des matériaux a été étudier pour que les pointes de la 16ProGen2 soient moins dure que le laminage. Au niveau des contraintes matériaux c'est un sacré boulot, ils ont bien bosser ce modèle. Je suis vraiment curieux de sa robustesse dans le temps. J'ai un peu plus de confiance car ça faisait depuis Avril que j'utilisai la 24 Pro à plein temps, et que même en lui en mettant plein la tête "ça passait". J'imagine que son talon d'achille a celle là serait son alim et sa possible chauffe (ce qui m'a fait mettre la luminosité à 75%).
@@DavidRevoy merci pour ton retour. C'est bien ce que je pensai.
Hi! I have a choice between XP-Pen Artist 24 Pro gen1 and Xppen Artist Pro 16 2nd gen. What do you say?
100% for the Xppen Artist Pro 16 2nd gen: lower parralax, the laminated glass, the smooth tilt rotation, and a higher pixel density (quadHD16:10 packed in a 16inch screen). It also has a better ergonomic imo on desk.
I really liked my XP-Pen Artist 24 Pro gen1, but it is really from another age: the overlay surface wasn't great (I had to replace mine), tilt had its favorite angle and wasn't smooth, the parralax was really equal to the first Cintiq (like the 21UX). I liked the "big" presence of the device on the desk, it screams to everyone "This is a big device PRO for artist!", but in reality it was also usable for me only once I connected a Cintweak keyboard support to it.
I hope it helps!
@@DavidRevoy Thank you for such a detailed answer. iLL take 16 gen2!
@@DavidRevoy Im sorry to bother you. I was also thinking about the ipad, what do you say about this? xpen 16pro gen2 or ipad
Merci pour ce test ! Ça m'a vraiment aidé ! Je l'ai depuis a peu près 1 mois et j'en suis très contente !
Est ce que tu vas tester leur nouvelle tablette autonome ?
J'aimerais beaucoup savoir si cette tablette + krita pourrait me convenir et comment ca se compare avec krita avec tablette avec écran sur l'ordinateur.
Merci pour le retour! Alors ici toujours également content de cette tablette, et en production sur un prochain episode de mon webcomic avec.
J'ai pas vue la nouvelle tablette autonome, et je vais aller regarder (au cas ou ça fonctionnerai sous Linux, sous Windows ça m'interesserait pas perso), merci pour l'info!
@@DavidRevoy c'est une tablette Android. Je me suis sans doute mal exprimée 😅
@@laetitiam1901 Pas de soucis. Si c'est Android, ça va malheuresement pas être ma tasse de thé. Mais je vais aller regarder quand même au cas ou c'est possible de bidouiller dessus un système libre, sans mouchards et pisteurs.
(I also asked this on an older video but i thought it might not be too clever to ask under a 3 year old video) Can anyone help me? Everytime I apply flat paint to lineart on a normal layer, the color looks different from the color from the color picker. This is kinda annoying because I never get the color I want. Does someone know what this is and how to fix?
if you're talking about krita, then maybe check the option next to the brush (top left). I had the same problem and it turns out it was because mine was set to multiply or something else instrad of normal.
@@agualupus Ohh thank you very much. It worked.
Hey, what about Fedora 39? Wayland?
Hey, Fedora 39 KDE here, X11 session. Krita is not developped for native Wayland, and bug hard as a Xwayland windows (bad performances for painting, and freeze, bugs). I'll wait for Krita Qt6 to use Wayland. Fedora is going to be F40 Wayland only, I'll have to move after the end of F39...
Do xp pen tablets work on Manjaro?
Hi, it depends if you want FLOSS driver or proprietary, it depends also the xp pen tablets, it depends the desktop environment you choose on Manjaro, it depends X11 or Wayland, it depends also the stability of distribution (Arch/Manjaro often breaks stuff for user of tablets because main testers and dev don't own such devices or have workflow without tablets). Also, it depends kernel used. So, it depends on many things :)
Salut David, je m'appelle José, j'habite au Portugal, j'ai vu la vidéo sur TH-cam sur le XP Pen16, et j'ai une question, j'ai aussi Wacon Ituos Pro M, et j'aimerais savoir si je peux avoir le XP 16 et mon Wacon installés en simultané sur mon ordinateur ?, merci beaucoup d'avance, vous faites partie de mes artistes préférés.
Bonsoir, un grand merci! Alors ça va dépendre du système et des drivers. J'ai essayé ici avec X11 et Linux, et c'est possible mais ça le ne sera peut-être pas sur Mac, Windows ou Android (j'ai jamais testé). J'ai reussi à brancher l'intuos et mes deux XP-Pen en simultané sur mon Fedora Linux KDE, ça ne créait pas de noeuds. Sur cette page www.davidrevoy.com/article332/my-tablet-history-log-a-listing-of-all-the-tablet-i-tested-since-2002-update-2023 (que je dois mettre à jour) j'ai même sur la première photo quatres tablettes connectés :) (c'était pour du beta test sur Krita)
Salut David, très reconnaissant pour votre réponse rapide, je pense acheter le XP16 pour Noël et votre coupon m'aidera, je suis un utilisateur Ubuntu, est-ce que ça fonctionnera de la même manière que sur Fedora ?, merci beaucoup avancez pour attirer votre attention.@@DavidRevoy
What about parallax isue?
3:48 , it's the lower distance stylus tip and cursor I tested so far. I calibrate the device for the corners, but it's really minimal.
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What .... WHAT?! IS THAT POSSIBLE!?!
Yes, but it is rare when a device has a good tilt support; sometime it is very angular, or the delay makes it hard to use it. On this model, it's fast and the number of angles makes it very smooth.
@DavidRevoy i watched the video cos i ordered the device. Tbh, i watched wo many of them i can't count, but because ppl moslty draw with round brushes, i haven't seen this feature. Thank you so much for making more indepth content. Now im even more excited to get my 16pro2ndgen baby
@@ioxellie Thanks! I hope you'll have a easy setup and good first impression on your first drawing. Here I'm using this tablet now as my main since last December and I'm super happy with it.
meanwhile me still struggling make action lines or speed lines
Oh yes, it's difficult. I saved my best one as PNG in high resolution, and now I tend to just reuse them over and over (same parrallal, concentric, etc).
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Thank god because i just switched to linux
"Oh, hey David." 😒(Been a while)
Some other reviewer seems to be using your video as his own...
th-cam.com/video/90fO8Up_NNY/w-d-xo.html
Thank you! I'll report 👍