1969 Wilus - It really depended on the resources that were built in. You have these monster 100 + key instruments that had a lot of ranks as well as a well developed toy counter and they were very versatile in ability to reproduce music. The little ones could do little more than play themes with a few frills. All in all - they represented incredible ingenuity by the builders considering the space they had to work with.
The Ruth 36 scale is a really good scale and that’s why it was the second most popular book organ they made. The main note scale is nearly fully chromatic, missing as I recall one low bass note and one high treble note. The reed note scale (trombones and trumpets) is less complete, but still complete enough to sound good.
I love the high eerie sounds these organs can produce. Absolutely bone chilling! I also love old school synthesizers (Jean Michel Jarre) but these organs can achieve the same experience.
Most German fairground organs, whether cylinder or book operated (in this case book), have a set of “mixture” or mutation pipes on an automatic register called the “forte” register. In most of these organs the mixture is three ranks of small wooden open flute or diapason (principal) type pipes, playing from the accompaniment and melody sections, with the three ranks sounding the octave (4’), twelfth (2 & 2/3’) and superoctave (2’) pitches above each melody note. This gives the organ a bright, silvery sound when activated, and also makes it extremely loud, hence “forte”. These mixture ranks were only very seldom found in French and Belgian fairground organs however, and never in old American band organs (although Stinson has built a few). Instead, these other builders preferred to use other means like a separate piccolo division, a rank of piccolos on melody, or else flageolets (octave harmonic flute pipes) on melody, to give high end brilliance, but without sounding the twelfth or quint pitches (parallel fifths).
The mixture stop idea is borrowed from the traditional church / classical organs of the Baroque era. Indeed, it’s said that both the Ruth firm and the Bruder firms in Waldkirch were inspired by the magnificent church organs built by Silbermann, when coming up with their tonal plans. The French builders like Gavioli, Marenghi, Limonaire etc however seemed to be more influenced by other French organ builders like Cavalle-Coll, who intended to make the organ sound more imitative or orchestral instruments. Indeed, some of the largest Gaviolis and Marenghis can come close to sounding like a concert band, with the right arrangements, which was exactly the idea.
@@andrewbarrett1537 Thank you for your exhaustively and well researched replies. Most it goes over my head but thanks because it reminded me to play the music again :-)
@@AudieHolland No problem. Thanks to the magic of TH-cam, we can all now pull up recordings of various organists playing antique Silbermann pipe organs and compare them with some of the Ruth and Bruder fairground organs in tone; we can likewise also pull up recordings of various organists playing antique Cavalle-Coll pipe organs and compare them with some of the Gavioli and Limonaire fairground organs.
Disneyland has a 65-key Gavioli organ, originally used at Olympic Park in Maplewood, New Jersey, in a newer (1980s?) "Dumbo"-themed case, located in its own building next to the Dumbo ride in Fantasyland. The Gavioli used to play via a Peterson digital pipe organ controller, but hasn't played in probably 20 years or more. Some of the older band organ recordings heard on the carousel there, however, were recorded from this organ. Others are synthesized, I believe. It would be nice for this organ to play again.
We really need a steampunk park like the original discoveryland in Paris... (80's synth pop plays really well on tape fed organs so would be the soundtrack)
saw this a day or so back at an event, very good - of course when you hear it in person your ears are aware that each pipe is in a slighlty different location so it gives it a kind of uber multiple source surround sound experience, which you can't quite appreciate on a home speaker setup :-)
If you have lived in Holland all your life as I have, you're rather spoiled as child by the antique street organs and also fairground organs when there's a 'kermis' (carnival). But most times they played cheesy old folks songs that I got rather sick of hearing as a child. I never experienced great organs producing modern sounds! Other great examples are Space Oddity and Take on Me by the Centenary Organ and another.
The only thing that would make this better is a vid of the mechanism at work (like Alexy Rom's th-cam.com/video/JTnGI6Knw5Q/w-d-xo.html). I do like the sound a lot but I really love seeing the program feeding into the device (either by Midi like Fip buster or paper) and watching the baffles or fan in this case (I think) work.
no, it really is not midi anything whatsoever. The book heard is punched card - I put it through myself! This organ ONLY plays punched card music, there is no midi anything on it whatsoever. The music book was arranged from the score in the old fashioned way.
In a way, though, the way it works isn't unsimilar to how a MIDI works (in the simplest sense). All a MIDI does is tell the program where the notes are, much like a musical punch card, but here it's WAAAAY better!
It is the exact mechanical equivalent of MIDI. Older sound cards with MIDI worked quite similar, playing instruments from a synthesis/wavetable library on command. Instead of a punch cards, a serial data stream is used instead. Both systems are digital in essence, albeit one has mechanical moving parts.
These organs have so much soul, you can tell it's enjoying itself playing this.
I'm more and more amazed at how versatile these old instruments are.
1969Wilus better than these shitty electrical instruments and musical emulators
1969 Wilus - It really depended on the resources that were built in. You have these monster 100 + key instruments that had a lot of ranks as well as a well developed toy counter and they were very versatile in ability to reproduce music. The little ones could do little more than play themes with a few frills. All in all - they represented incredible ingenuity by the builders considering the space they had to work with.
The Ruth 36 scale is a really good scale and that’s why it was the second most popular book organ they made. The main note scale is nearly fully chromatic, missing as I recall one low bass note and one high treble note. The reed note scale (trombones and trumpets) is less complete, but still complete enough to sound good.
@@jamiehughes5573 Sorry not everyone is as rich as you are, being able to buy literal ancient luxury instruments
Yes, they are versatile but a lot depends upon the arranger, as you may well imagine.
No clue why these are showing up in my recommended now, but extremely pleased they are.
Now I want a fairground organ for my room
* Nadia Mundt * Who doesn’t?
I absolutely love these organs, I don't know what it is about them but they make me so happy. ESPECIALLY when they play some Hans Zimmer!
I love the high eerie sounds these organs can produce. Absolutely bone chilling! I also love old school synthesizers (Jean Michel Jarre) but these organs can achieve the same experience.
Nein this is a special FAIRGROUNDS organ, it's a one man orchestra and an organ all in one
Most German fairground organs, whether cylinder or book operated (in this case book), have a set of “mixture” or mutation pipes on an automatic register called the “forte” register. In most of these organs the mixture is three ranks of small wooden open flute or diapason (principal) type pipes, playing from the accompaniment and melody sections, with the three ranks sounding the octave (4’), twelfth (2 & 2/3’) and superoctave (2’) pitches above each melody note. This gives the organ a bright, silvery sound when activated, and also makes it extremely loud, hence “forte”. These mixture ranks were only very seldom found in French and Belgian fairground organs however, and never in old American band organs (although Stinson has built a few). Instead, these other builders preferred to use other means like a separate piccolo division, a rank of piccolos on melody, or else flageolets (octave harmonic flute pipes) on melody, to give high end brilliance, but without sounding the twelfth or quint pitches (parallel fifths).
The mixture stop idea is borrowed from the traditional church / classical organs of the Baroque era. Indeed, it’s said that both the Ruth firm and the Bruder firms in Waldkirch were inspired by the magnificent church organs built by Silbermann, when coming up with their tonal plans. The French builders like Gavioli, Marenghi, Limonaire etc however seemed to be more influenced by other French organ builders like Cavalle-Coll, who intended to make the organ sound more imitative or orchestral instruments. Indeed, some of the largest Gaviolis and Marenghis can come close to sounding like a concert band, with the right arrangements, which was exactly the idea.
@@andrewbarrett1537 Thank you for your exhaustively and well researched replies.
Most it goes over my head but thanks because it reminded me to play the music again :-)
@@AudieHolland No problem. Thanks to the magic of TH-cam, we can all now pull up recordings of various organists playing antique Silbermann pipe organs and compare them with some of the Ruth and Bruder fairground organs in tone; we can likewise also pull up recordings of various organists playing antique Cavalle-Coll pipe organs and compare them with some of the Gavioli and Limonaire fairground organs.
This is probably the very best thing that has ever played a fairground organ. Incredibly awesome!!!
Disneyland should do this
Totally! I imagine like a vintage-styled theme park.. :D Like an old funfair (just maybe safer and more fun 😂)
Disneyland has a 65-key Gavioli organ, originally used at Olympic Park in Maplewood, New Jersey, in a newer (1980s?) "Dumbo"-themed case, located in its own building next to the Dumbo ride in Fantasyland. The Gavioli used to play via a Peterson digital pipe organ controller, but hasn't played in probably 20 years or more. Some of the older band organ recordings heard on the carousel there, however, were recorded from this organ. Others are synthesized, I believe. It would be nice for this organ to play again.
We really need a steampunk park like the original discoveryland in Paris... (80's synth pop plays really well on tape fed organs so would be the soundtrack)
saw this a day or so back at an event, very good - of course when you hear it in person your ears are aware that each pipe is in a slighlty different location so it gives it a kind of uber multiple source surround sound experience, which you can't quite appreciate on a home speaker setup :-)
While the songs technically called "He's a Pirate", it doesn't change the fact that that was epic.
It's actual an overture of quite a few tracks, quite often-played by at least every other orchestra in the world.
no. It's put together as a one-off arrangement purely for this organ. It's not from any symphonic band parts medley.
Rich, full arrangement,. It shows the organ off in all its glory. Made me tap my toes and smile! Thanks!
He's A Pirate starts at 1:30
TriforceP The first part is a variation of the bridge of The Medallion Calls
When you cut your boat in half and repair it with only flex tape.
Great arrangement on a wonderful Ruth organ. Made my day!
that is so cool! love the music! just like I love the movies!
(imagine this)
Wurlitzer 153: That has to be the best Organ I've ever seen
Wurlitzer 165: So it would seem.
*a Ruth 36B on a boat*
Turn it up to ELEVEN!
Favorite part from 1:55 to 2:10
WOW !!! GREAT !!!
BEAUTIFUL INSTRUMENT
It's really fantastic!
If you have lived in Holland all your life as I have, you're rather spoiled as child by the antique street organs and also fairground organs when there's a 'kermis' (carnival). But most times they played cheesy old folks songs that I got rather sick of hearing as a child. I never experienced great organs producing modern sounds! Other great examples are Space Oddity and Take on Me by the Centenary Organ and another.
1:12 When u get in a fight with ur siblings
*while drunk
Imagine if at 0:52 it just cadenced into Lose Yourself.
i have found heaven =0
love it
Wow!
when you survive the doomsday
EMP won't bother these beauties at all. The new jukeboxes until mankind gets things back in order.
would be amazing if this played the MGS theme song
Steam calliopes are the best, even when they are no longer run on steam.
The only thing that would make this better is a vid of the mechanism at work (like Alexy Rom's th-cam.com/video/JTnGI6Knw5Q/w-d-xo.html). I do like the sound a lot but I really love seeing the program feeding into the device (either by Midi like Fip buster or paper) and watching the baffles or fan in this case (I think) work.
It is a Nice Instrument
Play the Gears of war 3 theme
make pirates 6 played strictly with organs of this nature so we can laugh more XD
sounds like midi!
no, it really is not midi anything whatsoever. The book heard is punched card - I put it through myself! This organ ONLY plays punched card music, there is no midi anything on it whatsoever. The music book was arranged from the score in the old fashioned way.
In a way, though, the way it works isn't unsimilar to how a MIDI works (in the simplest sense). All a MIDI does is tell the program where the notes are, much like a musical punch card, but here it's WAAAAY better!
Undergroundpianola
I wasn't insulting your work. I phrased it wrongly. MIDI sounds like the organ
It is the exact mechanical equivalent of MIDI. Older sound cards with MIDI worked quite similar, playing instruments from a synthesis/wavetable library on command. Instead of a punch cards, a serial data stream is used instead. Both systems are digital in essence, albeit one has mechanical moving parts.
@@AdamRamet can i buy the midi of this tune???