The Truth About Nuclear Energy
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- Chernobyl, Fukushima, The Simpsons power plant, they all involve lies!
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Written by Greg Brown and Laura Roklicer
Edited by Luka Šarlija
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What did you think about Nuclear BEFORE this video, and has this video changed your opinion?
When are we going to get fusion energy!?
I would like to see a collaboration with Kurzgesagt
Well explained, and what about water used in reactor does it become radio active?
It has not changed. I am not sure we should build reactors left and right but i am not against it. But we have to stop generating electricity and heat by coal an gas etc.
@@mattjones5105 ever heard of solar energy? That's fusion energy you getting
People fear what they dont understand... which is why I'm terrified of Karens
Hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂i actually laughed out loud
So funny and true
@@kookiesensations4798 me too!
Boomers in general think they understand, what they actually don't. And they are governing us
As a 15 year old, I never absorbed any anti-nuclear energy media growing up, so I started off with a "I literally have no idea what that means because I'm a child" opinion that grew into a "wait why don't we use more nuclear energy?" opinion over the last few years
The key now is educating others. Next time someone mentions renewables as the only option. Or that nuclear is bad. Remember this video and explain what you know in a calm, rational and respectful way. Can't change the world by ourselves. So we gotta do it one mind at a time
Because of the lies that have been constantly shoved down our throats for years. Care to guess who pushes those lies? Hint: It's the same people who push the lie that renewable energy can't replace coal and oil.
You will go far young fella. You have the ability to challenge, to question and to learn, and that takes time, whereas the majority are lazy and believe that dished out to them .... and that on ANY subject be it Guns, Climate, Virus or any of the many demons that have beset the world by people who capitalise on alarm. Look up HL Menckeh "HOBGOBLINS"
I've suspected as much, and appreciate you confirming. Your perspective is a glimmer of hope. There was a lot of fear surrounding nuclear *anything* in the 70's and 80's when I was growing up.
I've spent my career (25+ years) on trying to do less harm while providing the blessings of electricity to people where they live. Nuclear generators are base load - meaning they don't like to go up and down; conversely they don't fluctuate with the breeze or solar irradiance...it's more like geothermal. Nuclear generation produces virtually no air emissions. It is a good, stable, and reliable source of electricity.
@@BrianLocke In my experience environmental organisations and political parties are just as much to blame (at least in France/ Europe) Greenpeace for example is agressively pushing against nuclear energy at every opportunity.
Having just graduated with a B.S. in Geology, I can personally verify that the concern of material storage is at the forefront of our discipline (both nuclear, and carbon sequestration). While by no means a topic with a trivial solution, there is some serious science going into the development of nuclear waste storage, and fear of seepage is being met with scientific due diligence.
I'm the main educator at the US's National Museum of Nuclear Science & History in Albuquerque New Mexico and I interact with senior nuclear engineers who worked to fix the Three Mile Island accident, designed reactors, and helped make them more efficient. Their overwhelming consensus is that fear of nuclear energy is far too overblown and politicized. If we truly want to battle climate change and make a drastic switch away from fossil fuels, we're going to need nuclear in the mix.
When I was in high school, I took AP Environmental Science. There, they told us that the nuclear waste was just stored in parking lots and that there was no way to store this super ~dangerous~ waste. They made us watch Chernobyl and really drilled that nuclear was unsafe. I had no idea about how it’s actually stored or that most of the waste isn’t even that dangerous. I’m honestly shook rn
Your teachers should be fired.
It isn't surprising. The Greenpeace organization constantly spouts misinformation about nuclear power and many environmentalist view them as a reliable source.
anti nuclear "environmentalists" are the people who have the highest chance of destroying the environment if their information continues spreading like this.
Wow, who were your teachers? They need to be fired for teaching misinformation
@Lisa Walters Your instructor was correct. When fuel rods are removed after a fuel change, they're still too hot and are stored in water tanks inside the reactor buildings. Once they're cool enough for dry storage, they're stored in casks on power plant grounds. A big source of radioisotope release from Fukushima was from fuel rods in wet storage catching fire after the water pumps failed. The hot rods will separate water into hydrogen and oxygen to feed the fire.
At the recent Dutch elections, choosing a party that
prioritizes nuclear energy to fight climate change was the most important factor for me!
Wasn't being pro-nuclear energy basically what got the Dutch branch of Volt seats in the parliament?? It seems the opinion on nuclear power is changing at least in some countries.
Meanwhile in Belgium :/
@@Khenfu_Cake no, volt are sadly anti nuclear.
Which parties are pro Nuclear in the Netherlands?
@@dudewhatthehellman Depends on the branch. The Danish and Dutch branches are fairly pro-nuclear.
By far the most frustrating part of the nuclear energy conversation is how helpless I feel as one person. There isn't a politician who is expressing views pro-nuclear enough for my liking. It is the only option we have to work towards truly clean energy, and it will take decades to bring up the percentage of our energy that comes from nuclear. I want to start NOW.
Really 😂 Why should anyone choose nuclear energy while we have Green hydrogen that will become as cheep as solar in the next decade. Green Hydrogen creates almost no waste, while nuclear creates radioactive waste that has to be carefully deposited. Not to mention how expensive the nuclear power plants are.
@@lightingwalk 1 nuclear waste is the safest waste its so safe you could swim in it. 2 yes nuclear energy is expensive but its all so far more productive only costing 29.13$ per MWH were as green hydrogen cost 95$ per MHW.
@@Godzillaminusone70 Most nuclear waste produced is hazardous, due to its radioactivity, and can last for a few thousand years. I hope you are not being sarcastic. 🙂 By 2030 Hydrogen is expected reach the price of gasoline. Do your research.
@lightingwalk I will admit nuclear waste is dangers, so I was wrong about that so let's explore how well contained it is
Storage and Disposal of Radioactive Waste (Updated January 2023)
Radioactive wastes are stored so as to avoid any chance of radiation exposure to people, or any pollution.
The radioactivity of the waste's decays with time, providing a strong incentive to store high-level waste for about 50 years before disposal.
Disposal of low-level waste is straightforward and can be undertaken safely almost anywhere.
Storage of used fuel is normally under water for at least five years and then often in dry storage.
Deep geological disposal is widely agreed to be the best solution for final disposal of the most radioactive waste produced.
Most low-level radioactive waste (LLW) is typically sent to land-based disposal immediately following its packaging for long-term management. This means that for the majority (~90% by volume) of all of the waste types produced by nuclear technologies, a satisfactory disposal means has been developed and is being implemented around the world. For used fuel designated as high-level radioactive waste (HLW), the first step is storage to allow decay of radioactivity and heat, making handling much safer. Storage of used fuel may be in ponds or dry casks, either at reactor sites or centrally. Beyond storage, many options have been investigated which seek to provide publicly acceptable, safe, and environmentally sound solutions to the final management of radioactive waste. The most widely favored solution is deep geological disposal. The focus is on how and where to construct such facilities. Used fuel that is not intended for direct disposal may instead be reprocessed in order to recycle the uranium and plutonium it contains. Some separated liquid HLW arises during reprocessing; this is vitrified in glass and stored pending final disposal. Intermediate-level radioactive waste (ILW) that contains long-lived radioisotopes is also stored pending disposal in a geological repository. In the USA, defense-related transuranic (TRU) waste - which has similar levels of radioactivity to some ILW - is disposed of in the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant (WIPP) deep geological repository in New Mexico. A number of countries dispose of ILW containing short-lived radioisotopes in near-surface disposal facilities, as used for LLW disposal. Some countries are at the preliminary stages of their consideration of disposal for ILW and HLW, whilst others, in particular Finland, have made good progress. Finland's Onkalo repository is expected to start operating in 2024. It will be the first deep geological repository licensed for the disposal of used fuel from civil reactors. The following table sets out the commonly accepted disposal options. When considering these, it should be noted that the suitability of an option or idea is dependent on the Waste form, volume, and radioactivity of the waste. As such, waste management options and ideas described in this section are not all applicable to different types of waste.
Green hydrogen (GH2) is hydrogen produced by the electrolysis of water, using renewable electricity.
A typical nuclear reactor produces 1 gigawatt (GW) of electricity. That doesn’t mean you can simply replace it with a 1 gigawatt coal or renewable plant.
Based on the capacity factors above, you would need almost two coal or three to four renewable plants (each of 1 GW size) to generate the same amount of electricity onto the grid
Nuclear produces energy 92.5% of the time were as geothermal produces energy 74.3& of the time fallowed by natural gas which produces energy 56.6% of the time then hydro power which produces energy 41.5% of the time fallowed by coal which produces energy 40.5% of the time wind only produces 35.4% of the time and solar only produces energy 24.9% of the time.
@@lightingwalk fine i will shorten my reply. nuclear waste containment is underground which means it not really a threat to anyone. nuclear is also the most productive energy source producing energy 92.5% of the time were as solar only produces energy 24.9% of the time BTW green hydrogen i produced by renewables which cause more deaths than nuclear and they are less efficient so why waste your time using an inferior energy type to get a new energy type when you can use the better energy type.
geothermal is also something we should master. that's pretty much unlimited power with no waste byproduct
had an argument with my friend
he said both are dangerous and should just abandon everything then return to monke
Hey, it's an energy-free lifestyle of blissful ignorance to the problems of the world, I can't blame him if this is what he wants.
Ape together strong!!
But really, people like that hamper progress and are dumb
Honestly that is a respectable position. At least it's logically consistent.
Based
*"The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown."*
-Howard Phillips Lovecraft
that dude is smart I wonder what he named his cat
@@Golden2962 Not that it absolves him of anything, but to be fair technically his dad named the cat. Having said that, he also didn't rename the cat, so...
But it sounds more impressive if you say it like this.
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I like that Lovecraft said this, that people know he said it, that agreed with him, and then are surprised when it turns out he himself was afraid of everything strange and unknown to him.
@@anosmibell6473 Just because you know something does not mean you are safe from it. He said it was the strongest form of fear for a reason.
Company’s that dump Nuclear waste secretly: allow me to introduce myself
My 18 year old son shared this with me because we had a disagreement with nuclear. I would say I’m definitely scared but after watching this and talking with him I know most of that comes from ignorance not necessarily facts. I’m agree completely that we need to get away from fossil fuel. A fear is becoming too dependent on the nuclear and not investing in renewable energy resources. This video makes me hopeful we can do both. Great video
Try learning from reality not YT videos.
Please don’t assume that YT videos are factual. If you live in the U.S. here is the reality for the last 4 state of the art Westinghouse AP1000 ADVANCED passive safety features new nuclear power projects and spent fuel reprocessing and in the U.S. over the last 20 years. You decide if this YT video was presenting the truth.
The Southeastern U.S. is super pro-nuclear MAGA, has zero anti-nukes, and 100% media and political support.
The MOX facility (South Carolina) was a U.S. government nuclear reprocessing facility that was supposed to mix pure weapon grade Pu239 with U238 to make reactor fuel assemblies. It was canceled (2017) in the U.S. After spending $10 billion for a plant that was originally estimated to cost $1 billion and an independent report that estimated it would cost $100 billion to complete the plant and process all the Pu239, Trump canceled the project in 2017.
VC Summer (South Carolina) new nuclear units 2&3 were canceled in 2017 after spending $17 billion on the project (original estimate of $14 billion and 2016 completion date) with no clear end in sight for costs or schedule.
Vogtle (Georgia) new nuclear units 3 &4 currently 110% over budget and schedule (currently over $30 billion) and still not operating. Mid way into the build, the utility stated that had they known about the many costly delays they would never have chosen nuclear. They are now delayed another year because according to the project management, thousands of build documents are missing.
Please google any of this to confirm.
If you can’t build new nuclear in the MAGA super pro-nuclear southeast U.S. then where can you build it?
11:20 Although we can run out of radium, thorium, uranium, americium et cetera, we could synthesize more if need be. If we can't synthesize anymore; that almost means that we have used all of the helium produced by every star in the universe, and also not have any available protons nor neutrons anywhere in the universe.
@@andrewpinedo1883 Helium is produced in stars. However, all the Helium on earth is produced when an isotope decays by alpha emission. The alpha particle captures electrons and becomes Helium. Most Helium is produced from the radioactive alpha decay of Uranium and plentiful in most natural gas deposits.
I also wish that were the case, but nuclear seems the best bet. Renewables provide us with energy 30% of the time at best, which means we need an alternative energy source to deal with the intermittent solar and wind. That is difficult with nuclear as you can't change the output simply like you can with gas. Big gas companies know this, which is why they invest ridiculous amounts of money into renewables. Support for renewables is pushing for the dependence on dirty energy.
After we figure out a plan to clean up all of these lead-filled solar panels, we should be trying to faze away from renewables into the least wasteful and the least polluting energy.
@@raywhite7832 New nuclear is costing 2-3 times that of any other generation method. Do you thing consumers are going to accept electric rates increasing 100% to 200% ??
Remember that one political party and 45% of Americans (I am not one of them) not only believe climate change is fake news but a liberal plot that they will fight to the death.
I am interested in your solar panels and lead comment. The only lead (solder) in a solar panel is at the junction where the copper output wires join the panel. One cell phone has 100 times the lead solder than found in a solar panel and can be disposed in a regular land fill as they are not considered hazardous per RCRA.
So in The Fairly Odd Parents Timmy says to his teacher “I’m not great at science, but I do know what happens when you split an atom.” Or something to that effect. The first day of chemistry I asked my teachers what happens when you split an atom and how to do it (because of the show). They were understandably confused and concerned.
Why were they understandably concerned?
@@KarlKarpfen I was essentially asking how to make an atomic nuclear bomb.
@@VrieChica078 Why shouldn't you, its quite interesting, rather easy but very laborious.
@@KarlKarpfen wait how is it easy to split an atom?!?
@@tanuki_sleep There isn't too much more to it than bringing the right isotopes together in large enough quantities to create a nuclear explosion.
The difficult part of military nuclear explosive devices is the urge for more yield for less material and smaller form factors. That is difficult.
But a bomb like "little boy" requires no very special skills, just high efforts in enrichment of natural uranium, that is extractable from rocks of vulcanic origin like granite, basalt or obsidian. If they get the level of enrichment they need, the Hiroshima-bomb is the level that any garage hobby-workshop can produce. It isn't much more than a donut-shaped piece of higly enriched uranium fixed to a pipe containing an explosive and an uranium cylinder which is to be shot into the donut on which's other end you have a neutron emitter. It's so simple a design that the researchers at Los Alamos National Laboratories refuesed to test it before it's use in combat.
You don't understand, Bananas took my brother, they killed my father, and they may take my own life someday.
I feel bad for anyone who reads this before the section of the video where it's relevant.
It's a slippery slope..
@@BrianSantero I know, one day you think you're 'just eating a banana' and soon enough you find yourself in the new mexico desert digging a hole. Bananas are a slippery slope kids, be careful.
a banana took my leg in the great fruit wars of 2022
Sorry for your lose, the banana wars were dark times
To be fair... bananas are mildly radioactive.
This was so interesting! Currently writing a final paper for an Environmental Health class on nuclear energy and I have found A LOT of literature highlighting the cons of nuclear energy. This definitely opened up some new doors to discuss the positives so I will be looking for more literature to support the other side of the argument. Thank you for this!
Currently doing the same thing but for a speech!
Everything else is okay
But that Chernobyl death count is an outright moronic lie
And completely undermines the wide reaching consequences of Chernobyl
Almost stopped watching the video at that point, isn’t it predicted to have given thousands of people cancer
Coal power kills more people every year than all nuclear power disasters combined.
Imagine how advanced we’d be at this point if we’d been putting more research into nuclear power before. 1955 to now is over 65 years. The time where we screwed up the environment the most would’ve been the perfect time to save it and develop much more efficient energy options.
OECD countries could have all had 100% carbon-free electricity generation by a decade or two ago, and the climate crisis would be far more distant and less certain to end in disaster, if the fossil-fuel industry hadn’t spent decades waging a successful campaign to kill its only viable competitor via ongoing campaigns to spread misinformation and scare tactics. Then we’d be arguing about exactly how fast to replace how much safe and carbon-free nuclear with safe and carbon-free wind and solar coupled with energy storage, not futilely hoping that we will someday have the will to actually reduce our usage of fossil fuels and even more futilely hope that that day isn’t after the planet is already destroyed.
@@matthewv789 renewables are a lot less viable than nuclear. They rely on the environment far too much. A hurricane comes and thunderstorm boom all the solar panels are useless.
@@matthewv789 yes you are right. at the end of the day humans are greedy monkeys in clothes.
ain't that the beginning plot to fallout 4 thoe?
Someone needs to go in a time machine to 1970s and prevent that nuclear movie from occurring.
Living next to two nuclear reactors for my entire life I can say that I am definitely NOT afraid of nuclear power ... even despite the emergency drills we had to do as kids.
I'd love to live near a reactor.
Sign me up for the sweet sweet cheap electricity!
I don't think the industry is trustworthy enough to report a leak at a plant to the public.
Just cause you're not afraid, doesn't mean that it's safe.
My state has had the largest uranium mine spill in the USA. People 40 years later still have health problems. That is in the North.
The nuclear storage facility in the south of our state was supposed to be accident free for over a hundred years. It had an accident in less than 20 years.
I personally know 2 people damaged by uranium mining.
No, I don't think nuclear is safe.
It's safer than Fossil fuels
I used to be scared of nuclear energy when I was a kid. It is sad that so many people are dumb enough to be scared of something that they can so easily learn is harmless.
I was afraid from it because of how it was depicted in the media. Once I started looking up how they really work all I can say is that I'm fascinated with them
LOL WE’RE LITERALLY DOING NUCLEAR ENERGY IN SCHOOL RN
WE MISS SCHOOL (tell you class and teacher we say hi!)
@@AsapSCIENCE OMG STOP IM LITERALLY SUCH A BIG FAN OF YOU GUYS DEFO TELLING THEM THAT
@@baharsabet2895 How comparable is what you learn at school and this vid?
HEY BAHAR!!!
@@spicyananaspizza well in school we haven’t looked at it in THIS much detail (and luckily we aren’t being taught it in a biased way or anything) but this video has really made me realise that nuclear energy’s pros far outweigh the cons and is very necessary if we want to reach 0 carbon emissions in the future, as fossil fuels are our real enemy.
One thing to remember is most existing nuclear power plants were designed with guys using slide-rules, back in the 1950s! Now we have insanely powerful computer modelling tools that allow folks to design and engineer systems that are safer, and in some cases, essentially waste-free. We've gone from the Model T, to a Tesla!
@scomo's maccas adventure fun time. Well, the ones Bill Gates started to make a prototype of in China (then covid took over our lives putting it on hold) actually uses nuclear waste as fuel, it is self contained and requires no human workers at all. It could be buried underneath a suburb and just do its thing...it is also 100% safe.
@@Defensive_Wounds source? sounds pretty interesting actually
@@Damascene_ I think these reactors are called „thorium reactors“
@@hamsteriges9902 Thorium is actually safer and in larger quantities than uranium lmao, you have to use a different element to make it work efficiently, so in the case of a meltdown, you only have to disconnect the helping material to stop the process. It also produces MUCH LESS waste.
Tho these dont sound like thorium reactors?
@@Damascene_ I am not an expert about this subject, but thank you for informing me
A combination of nuclear energy, wind and solar is the only way out of the hole we've dug ourselves into. Thanks for your efforts to bring a little rationality to this heated debate.
Wind and solar need 100% back-up, and if that back-up is nuclear, what was the point of building them in the first place?
But but nuclear energy = bad. Or that's what is said.
@@chapter4travels
"If one lung stops working, what do I need a second lung for?" One of the most self-defeating arguments I've ever seen - but it's also false. We store extra energy from wind and solar, and extra energy can always be used, even without emergencies.
@@ezakustam Who are you quoting? Oh, and we have no way of storing electricity at scale, only small amounts.
Wind and solar are sufficient. The sun produces more energy on earth in 20 minutes than we use in a year. Backup systems are ease to build.
I live near an American plant that powers Illinois. Not even a minor incident has happened. The air is clean and farms are not affected. The air is very clean here compared to Chicago. Even smaller cities like Joliet have dirty air compared to here.
"That causes steam to rotate a turbine"
So what you're saying.... is that Nuclear reactors are essentially VERY efficient steam engine's?
All power plants are
Yes. All power plants boil water by way of a fuel (coal, natural gas, nuclear) to make electricity. It is the best and cheapest option we have at the moment. That is unless you are lucky to live next to a giant body of water, in which case you can build a dam and spin the turbine by using the water's kinetic energy instead of steam.
YES! So few people realize that. Many think is some direct connection between the power lines and the reactor.
@Verum Similis Hey. It works.
@Verum Similis what a shame the Chinese don’t have enough coal to operate them… As far as I recall, the only major source of power generation that does not involve a turbine is photovoltaics, and they cannot provide base load power without expensive storage and some excess generation. Some sort of energy is required to rotate a generator to provide the electricity, and steam turbines are very efficient at this.
I am a submarine nuclear reactor operator in the US Navy. I have spent months on end never getting further than 200 feet from the reactor core itself. My lifetime exposure for the job is pretty high compared to my peers but is still about equivalent to what I would get if I lived 5 miles from a coal-burning power plant. If you are scared of nuclear power, you just don't understand it!
Those are incredible machines, nearly unlimited range.
For real. I was an RO on an aircraft carrier. The guys on the flight deck got higher radiation doses than we did, by quite a lot.
Spot on Bobby.
I hope the young blokes who made this 12 minute introduction to reality understand that MANY nuclear reactors have been built in the decades since WW2 and all operating safely. Those reactors are effectively SMRs within assorted Naval vessel types from many nations.
A major flaw in the presentation (there are a few) is the ASSUMPTION that nuclear was not pursued "likely due to cost". An errorneous and naive comment. In fact (apart from cost) three primary reasons exist for the continuation of coal. (1) JOBS and local economies (2) Investment and amortisation of existing infrastructure (3) The overly onerous and destructive process involved in gaining approval for new nuclear facilities - which translates to placing the modern nuclear cycle (note - the whole nuclear cycle - not merely a reactor) as a square peg trying to fit into a round bureaucratic hole.
Not relevant, nuclear industry workers health was never a public concern. The Navy's reactors a small, lack the concrete containment structures of site built plants, and have a decade long span between refueling by virtue of using highly enriched uranium. Allow that kind of reactor to dispersed in huge numbers as a civilian power source will be far too dangerous, and prohibitively expensive.
smallest commercial ground nuclear powerplant generate 581 Megawatt of electricity, the largest submarine one generate 48 Megawatt electricity. Which is (probably) around ~30% of the actual thermal power of the fission reaction (ie: thermodynamic heat-engine efficiency limit), ie: around ~Gigawatts of actual thermal power on the smallest ground reactor, and ~hundred-of-Megawatt of heat on the largest submarine reactor. Those submarine reactor was not for money and so will run cooler than commercial counterpart.
I’m for nuclear. I favor molten salt thorium because they eliminate the high pressure reactor vessel that can spray materials if damaged. Proposed designs have a very simple frozen salt plug to stop any over temperature situation. If power is lost, no scram mechanisms or pumps that must run, the salt plug melts allowing the reactor materials to spread out and stop the fission reaction. If you want a world with low cost energy that is reliable, can charge everyone’s car, run all the air conditioners and power the large server farms that let you learn the latest celebrity gossip, nuclear is a good solution.
You’re understating Chernobyl. Over 2,000 people had serious health effects and/or early deaths due to Chernobyl. It’s still almost nothing compared to other power plants _operating normally_ , but you open yourselves to charges of dishonestly if you don’t include the full impact of the event.
Our physics teacher showed our class a Norwegian documentary series by Andreas Wahl. In one of the episodes he covered nuclear energy, andafter watching that one in addition to learning about fission in physics, I stopped fearing nuclear energy, and started being pro nuclear energy. (Not that it’s that needed where I live, but our Swedish neighbors rely on it)
Yes we sure do, but for some reason our government (currently lead by a socialist party) decided that it is better to let the market regulate the energy mix. The result of that is that nuclear is too expensive and is getting phased out. Our politics confuse me...
@twentyfivekgplants tomake1kgbeef this is completely unrelated to the comment. I understand that you want people to be vegan, but there’s a time and place for it.
I don’t really like his documentaries, but maybe I should watch it.
@@marcusodenmarck840 that is called free market which only ever takes place in England when there is a lot of money to be made. They promised us a free market, let the market decide lowest cost, lowest CO2. That meant no Nukes so they give big subsidy to Hinckley point. Not that I am usually a big fan of 'free markets' but it is probably because its just a lot of talk. I mean look at all the subsidies for fossil fuels! And Fracking!!
@@marcusodenmarck840 Oh come on, who doesn't like a little extra dirty coal power? Our government sure does! 🙃
whats funny about fukushima to me is this: The biggest earthquake in recorded modern history of japan, masive tsunami waves, city blocks leveld by the elements, old fukushima power plant: diesel generators got floded, reactors melted down and some mildly iradieted water got into ocean... Fourth bigest earthquake in modern history vs old power plant and it took it like absolute champ.
Right on.
Fukushima was also a Westinghouse reactor designed in the 1950s. Today’s reactor designs would have never overheated or released any radiation after a massive earthquake.
Also, if the backup generators for the cooling pumps had been located somewhere more sensible than the basement of the plant, they could likely have achieved a safe shutdown. Particularly somewhere like Japan, which is prone to earthquakes, if nuclear plants were deliberately over-engineered with multiple independent redundancy mechanisms and designed to survive a an earthquake / tsunami bigger than the biggest ever recorded, although it would push up the cost significantly, it would make it almost certainly survive whatever nature could throw at it.
The water was not mildly irradiated. You have some serious bias issues and seem to be very intellectually dishonest
@@Ryukikon so, how irradiated was the water?
Fun fact, the scientists who discovered nuclear fission had originally studied it had no intention of creating weapons. They wanted to use it as it's used today; for energy. Unfortunately, with WW2 happening, the government decided differently
On the flip side, during the cold war, it was the technology of weapons like missiles that would launch satellites into space (the same technology is still used today), making a lot of our current technology and discoveries possible
Kinda dives into the good and bad effects of war along with all the philosophical implications
The largest contributing factor to the Fukushima accident was that the emergency generators and electrical boxes were in the basement. When the tsunami flooded the basement, it killed all power to the station which disabled the reactor cooling pumps. Had that gear been located somewhere higher, the plant would still be operating today.
It's actually just comforting to hear two people consistently pronounce 'nuclear' correctly for ten minutes.
how.. how do others say it...?
@@amandahigirl nukyular
Hey!! Murcan!
@@steepsm bro ppl srsly say it like that?
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Would you mind if I send you the Spanish subtitles for this video in order for you to add them? This content is great and sadly a nuclear plant construction on the city I live in, in Argentina was cancelled due to people being afraid
Mucha Ivana Nadal, Greenpeace e intereses neoliberales (los dos primeros son parte de lo mismo) dando vueltas. Esto ultimo es lo mas importante: una inversion china en latinonamerica? A joderse por haber votado a Macri (PRO, Cambiemos, Juntos x El Cambio, etc)
you should walk around your city and call everyone a dumbass for being afraid of something they don't bother to try to understand
@@UgandanAirForce In Argentina most people only care about t1t and 4ss
@@diegoiunou i mean i care about that too myself, but there's more to life than those things.
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We stood 150 meters away from the reactor itself and the way our Guide quoted "You are now closer to the reactor than most humans, yet safer than a person swimming in a city pool." stuck with me.
As a student who's school got an opportunity to explore a nuclear reactor (not inside the reactor itself, but inside dynamo and other stuff.) I was stunned to see how power efficient and safe they are. We were also shown the yearly revenue of the plant, a bit of quick-maths by us revealed, if Nuclear industry was to rise to top, it could earn some serious stashes of money too (cant help ourselves we are Gujus...)
I've lived my entire life in what is considered the fallout range of McGuire Nuclear Station.
I never think about it, the fallout warning sirens (I remember the tests as a kid) were turned off in the 90s and torn down in the early 2000s.
There have been more issues with the coal ash in this area than anything from nuclear power.
Coal ash is more radioactive than nuclear waste.
As an operator at a nuclear plant, this message needs more exposure
... Curious, how to go that way as a career path if I wanted to work in the industry?
Nuclear is just- I don't know. The future?
@Ralph Tamez comparing a nuclear weapon test site to a nuclear power plant is stupid
@Ralph Tamez by deaths no, environmental damage is higher and could be higher we can thank the Chernobyl liquidators for that. And Chernobyl is getting new inhabitants and Fukushima happened due to earthquakes and a tsunami which then caused a chain reaction such that the reactor core stopped getting cooled down. The total death toll according to the Japanese government was 18000 or more way less than a nuke hitting a major city or any city for that matter and "According to the official, internationally recognised death toll, just 31 people died as an immediate result of Chernobyl while the UN estimates that only 50 deaths can be directly attributed to the disaster. In 2005, it predicted a further 4,000 might eventually die as a result of the radiation exposure.". Way less than Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed
@Ralph Tamez another thing you are bashing Chernobyl whose design should not have even existed but given the Soviet Union does not have good or any standards for nuclear power plant employees it was bound to happen anyway. Newer generation of reactors are orders of magnitude safer due to Chernobyl and a lot of nations high safety and employee standards the "designing reactors to be able to withstand a jet airliner ramming into it" kind of standards.
@Ralph Tamez Third, I did not call you stupid I called comparing a nuclear weapon test site to a nuclear power plant stupid
instead of talking about how safe nuclear is, they should talk about how ridiculously dangerous fossil fuel power is
that's hard to do because fossil power is a slow creeping problem. "if you see no danger theres is no danger"
they already do, but the green nutters are also against nuclear energy.
@@BrunoHenrique-gi1wd Another way of viewing that is most people drive a car all the time and don't worry if it is safe but get alarmed when an Airplane crashes. We are more confident with perceived risk we feel in control of
@@AverageAlien truth. I expected this video to be more greenie fear mongering. I was pleasantly surprised
@@Nick-ce6lt This particular youtuber used to be anti nuclear (I thought). Perhaps his opinion changed?
What they didn't tell you was:
Radioactive fallout north of Chernobyl fell on the grass and cows and other livestock (reindeers) ate the grass. Milk was too radioactive; animals couldn't be used for meat. The economic damage was huge. And even so, the increased radioactivity in the environment caused an increase in cancers. So more than "only 51 people" died because of Chernobyl. This all happened again after Fukushima; billions have had to be spent to clean up both nuclear disasters. And their effects will remain for hundreds of years.
It's just mind-boggling that you didn't mention thorium reactors.
Lol you know nothing
Maybe that’s cause they don’t exist
Our rejection of Nuclear power was a massive mistake, and the environment has payed dearly for it as we continue to rely on fossil fuels for our electricity
The fossil fuel folks though very happy.
as well as renewable energy folks, due to being the only way people on the left can think of saving the environment.
@@ultralight9625 Even as someone who is left leaning(actual center left, not stupid far left), i support nuclear power. So do my parents. My father was an electrical engineer, he worked at a coal plant, but he knew coal would become obsolete sometime or another, he just also knew he would retire by then.
Even back then though, he was pro nuclear.
We are also pro geothermal which just gets outright ignored. It to could help. There isnt a one size fits all towards cleaner energy, but the one track mindedness of only going for a power source that looks cool is like simping for a woman lacking personality. People are really wanting solar and wind to be the end rather than a means to the end. In other words, they are simping for solar and wind.
The nuclear industry betrayed the public trust. Their secrecy and half-hearted attempts to follow voluntary standards are risky. Fukishima could have happened in the U.S.
@@laughingalex7563 You are correct, and governments and industry know it. That's why they are investing huge amounts in fusion. Problem is fusion is a huge roll of the dice, we may get to something practical in a century or so but the problem is time has run out. For next hundred years or so we need something we know how to get working at large scale without wrecking the atmosphere.
I love this! I hope so many people will see this! Fun fact: Olkiluoto 3 building (3rd nuclear reactor in Olkiluoto, Finland) is designed to withstand an impact of an airplane flown into the building!
This is actually fundamental design basis for plants.
A depleted uranium projectile or missile would go through that thing like a hot knife through butter! Seriously. The U.S. Army has done such tests done tests.
@@davidgeary490 that's an out of context statement. It's plenty of military tech that can penetrate such a building, yet you cannot consider it a risk. There's difference between risk and danger. The event you describe is inherently really really dangerous, yet the risk correlated is absurdly low as the likelihood of it happening without an open war is quite small. On the other hand the possibility of a plane being hijacked is much much higher, so to reduce the risk coorelated to a more likely event you decrease the danger associated with the event actually happening
Firstly, a large plane would definitely break through the concrete and steel dome of a nuclear reactor with a direct hit! Nuclear proponents can claim that, theoretically, because its never been tested in the real world. We all saw in real time , big planes going through the concrete & steel twin towers in New York. Re: Danger and risk: terrorism & rogue states are real things...and they now have DU weaponry. We all didn't think that 9/11 incident would ever happen or was even possible - it wasn't even in our imagination, until it happened! Secondly, apart from the dome covering the reactor vessel, the spent fuel pools and dry storage casks do not even have a dome over them - and if a plane crashed into them, that would create the largest fission products-dispensing "dirty bomb" ever, dwarfing Chernobyl.@@REVOLUTIONS51
@@davidgeary490 well, in order.
A concrete dome is quite a simple structure to model, a plane is more complicated, yet is totally possibile Tu file out the entity of damage of such an encounter.
Has it been really done or it's just a publicity gimmick, I can't tell, maybe there's someone out there that could double check their claims, I'm a mechanical engineer not a structural, so I'll limit my statement to "it's plausible but can't confirm".
But just for reference, 9/11 was quite a different story, the structure was fine on itself until it reached such a temperature to start loosing integrity. At just 750 Celsius normal steel is considered basically useless as a building material, it gets too soft.
The nice thing of 3th generation reactor is that they do not need any support system from outside the reactor building to safely stop the reactor.
For the cooling pools, well, thousands of liter of contaminated water used in Chernobyl were lost in the ground. It was not from the reactor fire itself, but from decontamination procedures in the area and from the damaged cooling loop of the reactor.
But Chernobyl was awfully because the reactor burned at 1800+ Celsius in open air for days, it's estimated it vaporised more than 400 kg of highly radioactive materials between the fuel itself and other components. So on one hand you have an accident releasing moderate amount of moderately radioactive water in the environment and quite some nuclear fuel in the nearby area.
On the other hand you had an explosion that spread highly radioactive waste over a vastly wider area and a fire that vaporised it in the atmosphere. One can be addressed locally, with minimal impact in the areas around the powerplant, the other required the biggest clean up known to history. I really cannot see how it could be even remotely comparable.
It is surprising how few direct victoms of Chernobyl there were. I was shocked (in a good way).
But the fact that something is less dangerous does still not mean it is safe or right.
Have you considered the radiation victims? The deformations, mutations? Does the drop of life-quality for so many not matter as a risk? I feel it is still not so light headed and jolly as you guys hope it is.
Yup, I see pro nuclear commenters on all threads except ones like this that think long term 🤷♀️
@@Mmmtruk you should know coal power makes more radiation than nuclear power
Yes. There were mutation and a lot of cancer victims of Chernobyl. But still I personally think Nuclear PP is much cleaner than burning anything. Don't blame radiation and nuclear stations only. The disaster happened because of load testing on the reactor that was built in a hurry with mistakes!. Kremlin knew it is not safe. But they insisted on that experiment! And my family lost home.
To my laymen's knowledge, yes, of course there were and are long-term effects due to the Chernobyl accident in direct relation to the radiation. Much much fewer than one might think, though.
On the day of the accident, there were 600 workers onsite. 134 suffered acute radiation sickness, 28 of whom died in the first three months. For those who survived radiation sickness, recovery took several years.
There are some sicknesses that seem to appear more often in survivors (people close and far that may have been exposed to the fall-out at the time and since) as well as the following generation - in particular: thyroid cancer.
After the fall-out, grass in some areas had high concentrations of radioactive iodine, but desperate(?) farmers sent their cows there anyhow (more of a political/financial issue or lack of education/communication), hence cow-milk got contaminated, hence the spike in thyroid cancer in individuals who were children or adolescents at the time of the accident - which, to put a number on it, affected and still affects approx. 5,000 people.
Thyroid cancer aside (still bad, I know), compared to groups / cohorts living in similar environments, the percentages of cancers/sicknesses (incl. stunted growth in children, if that's what you meant by "mutations") in the wake of Chernobyl's disaster are relatively small, and can just as much be contributed to actions taken and life-style changes directly following the disaster (self-medication, the 115,000 evacuated having had temporarily or long-term lesser health care, anxiety and increased stress, even a sudden increase of exhausts from fossile fuels to make up for the sudden loss of the energy from the Chernobyl plant, and also more awareness of health/-risks causing even "normally occurring" cancers to be detected much more often) - it's a very hard to dissect topic and even harder to come up with clear results. That and possible governmental hush-hush tactics...
(The dust around the plant / "tomb" is to this day not exactly something anyone should stay in contact with... - but neither is hanging out in any of the many many landfills for toxic fossile waste a good idea...)
No increase in leukemia has been detected nor have any fertility problems arisen. Nor have any other health-issues related to radiation been noted in the children since ( - poor overall health amongst the population stood out, but no connection could be made)
Arguably (according to many voices more educated on the matter than me), the Chernobyl disaster was horribly handled, before, immediately and years after the event.
In many ways Fukushima was worse, but in regards to the death-toll or sicknesses correlated to radiation was ...one (a worker who died 4 years later due to lung-cancer) ...additionally to the thousands of victims form the initial quake and following tsunami, in the year following, an increase of deaths had been noted, but reportedly none was radiation related (rather stress or aggravated pre-existing conditions).
Of course, this has only been a few years ago, hence studies are still pending. But using Chernobyl and the appearance of sicknesses there as a comparison, scientist seems optimistic in their assessments that there won't be any (notable) influx in health-issues related to the escaped radiation.
It may even seem, that the fear and fear-mongering, the induced stress and "counter-measures", or in the case of Fukushima the *actual* natural disaster that would have happened with or without a nuclear plant involved, cause much more harm than the actual radiation...
The effects of radiation / fall-out have been studied in depth and are still closely observed. It's not just the reactors and their failures. The effects of uncontrolled radiation on both humans as well as nature have been observed in the cold war, especially so since all the documents of plenty US atomic bomb testing (e.g. Bikini Atoll) became public knowledge...
There are also plenty studies by NASA in regards to their space program and cosmic radiation. So we may assume that scientists in those fields know what they are talking about...
The Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs have caused significant sicknesses, short- and long-term (most notably: leukemia), some children born in the immediate years after had smaller heads and/or mental disabilities. However no (significant?) radiation-related diseases (or "mutations") have been found in the generations following (though, studies are still taking place to observe), and the affected areas now have just as much/little radiation levels as the expected natural background-radiation.
And those were bombs - which are very much different from anything that can follow any disaster at any nuclear plant, aimed to cause as much destruction and damage as possible. So, we may infer that any results found from the bombings, should be even less in a much more controlled environment, such as a power plant, that from its perception has physical safety measures - even when it uncontrollably goes boom.
Radiation is no joke and has to be approached with great attention and care, can cause a wide array of sicknesses, mutations (cancer), infertility and much more. However, levels, duration, type and a whole lot of other factors play a significant role. There is (natural) radiation all around us, and a plane flight or an x-ray scan will not make you sick. Neither does casual sunbathing. But change some or just one of the factors and damages can occur, up to lethal ones - and even those may take years to manifest. Yet, the movie depictions or propaganda warnings have very little to do with reality...
On that note, most of the volume of "radioactive waste" (what's in those yellow barrels) is lowly radiated protective gear, cleaning and maintenance tools and the like, which are not dangerous per se, but cannot be otherwise deposed or reused due to safety measures, to keep making sure no plant worker gets sick... and some other bits and pieces that while not movie-like radio-active, could in the wrong hands still be weaponized (not a big weapon or bomb, though) - hence get encased along with the rods in cement in those barrels. The actual old fuel rods make much much less of mass and I read somewhere all rods and highly radio-active material that ever had to get disposed of could be fit - placed next to each other in such mostly concrete-filled barrels - into a regular soccer field. ...and one could measure radiation levels a few feet a way and be none the wiser (but they get normally buried in areas where they are safe from tectonic, water/corrosion or other outside disruptions, to make *extra* sure no ground-water can come into contact with those rods and get irradiated).
On the flip-side, the long-term detrimental effects of the use of fossile fuels / plants have been just as documented... and they are vast. Much, much vaster and permanent / ongoing than anything nuclear related combined.
Flora and fauna at Chernobyl is flourishing (especially so, since there is very little human intervention). I think I sufficiently went into the (surprisingly "little") human health effects, that _only occur in the worst of the already rare accidents_ .
Meantime oil slicks cover our oceans, the oceans have become 30% more acidic since the industrial revolution, people in cities suffocate from smog (literally and in large numbers, annually), to this day miners suffer deadly health issues, toxic coal combustion residuals are disposed in landfills and surface impoundments, plants and animals get sick and need incredible agricultural efforts in counter-measures to keep nourishing us, toxic emissions kill plants and animals and cause verifiably related sicknesses in humans, an increase in lung-diseases and allergies and heart-diseases with direct correlation to air pollution (incl. linked to Alzheimer, some variants on the autism spectrum and more), fracking, various chemicals by-product / exhaust of coal / oil plants are known to affect fertility and cause premature births (and birth-defects and more cancer), fossile ash/dust falls out onto polar ice increasing melting there, climate change is driven into over-drive...
And, think about this: We have attorney's specializing for victims of chemical plant fires. That's how many people suffer from those per year, with long-term and generation-reaching effects. There are thousands of studies that affirm that even with filters the exhaust from oil/coal plants is still directly affecting people's health in their area in innumerable ways...
I am not sure I answered your questions properly, or what scenarios or numbers exactly you are looking for...
But I think there are other numbers and facts that *we casually and gradually have gotten used to* , that are far far more significant and deadly, short- and long-term.
So, is it better because it's less dangerous?
Yes.
Because our alternatives (renewable energies such as wind or solar) are not nearly as effective as where we need them to be.
We need something to wean us over. And this is not an unknown. We can and should still learn more, but we know the risks and the effects. And they bear factually much better than the willing genocide we are currently subjecting ourselves to.
So, why not invest in making this already so much cleaner option even cleaner - there *are* scientific approaches that would make nuclear power plants safe, the processes inside much more stable and controllable and in case of an incident still remain safe, reduce their waste to almost zero or at least close to zero danger, but they get stuck into drawers because "nuclear power = bad".
Why does a cleaner and far less deadly alternative have to justify itself when the more toxic and globally devastating status quo does not?
Why do this in the most destructive way when we have a much less disruptive option available?
...
...because politics and money.
My great grandfather, Eldon, was one of the designers of the reactor at 3 mile island. He ended up co-authoring a short come-back book called "We Did Not Almost Lose Detroit", in response to the article "We Almost Lost Detroit". The craze was crazy during those times.
Great video, but saying Chernobyl only had 51 deaths and not mentioning the enormous exclusion zone, and not mentioning a huge spike in deformed and disabled people in the area feels a bit like misinformation. The resources required to mitigate its effects were huge as well.
The huge spike is grossly misreported. Sure, it was a 300% spike, but that means it went from 10 to 30, a statistically meaningless number
Not to mention all the folks that died of rapid onset lead poisoning
@@Leafbower It doesn't matter if the number is small if the growth is that high. In a more populated area it won't be just 10 people so the 300% is really significant.
@@Leafbower Well i didn’t say any specific number since I think no one has a correct percentage, but we know that a very significant part of ukraine and belarus is uninhabitale for more than 10 000 years. And the costs associated haven’t stopped either. The new containment was built, but even it will last only for another 100 years, and then we will need a new solution. Also, ukraine has to pay the victims to this day for this, and all the costs add up. Don’t get me wrong, I support nuclear energy and think that it has a very significant place in the future, but let us not downplay the risks here. Until we have nuclear fusion there’s always a chance for serious environmental and humanitarian damage.
I also don't think that only 51 died from Chernobyl
Here's an idea for a follow-on video: Molten salt reactors.
This looks like an interesting google search thanks for the direction I'ma learn me something new now...
How about Integral Fast Reactors as well?
Yup. Wut @@albertjackinson sed.^^^
@@albertjackinson WHAT
yes, please molten salt reactor can reuse the waste of conventional reactors and if more people knew this they wouldn't fear it so much
@6:06
'Vox' has made a video showing you a pebble used in a pebble-bed reactor:
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@10:26
'Undecided with Matt Ferrell' has made a video about mini nuclear energy plants:
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I live about 25 miles from a nuclear power station. I’ve often been and seen it and they’re honestly more impressive than scary when you think about it. The safety is something that here in the UK, doesn’t concern me in the slightest. I know that regular checks are done, when something needs replacing, it’s replaced and that the chance of something going wrong involving any kind of human error is near impossible.
The only thing that would ever concern me would be if there was a threat of war. This seems very unlikely but if it did happen, i would probably be trying to move as far north as possible anyway.
It's surprising that despite nuclear energy being the safest energy we can get, we are slowly trying to get rid of them because of the public's opinion on them
The problem ist that there isn't a safe place to store endproducts (radiating trash) which can't be used anymore. With ongoing improvements in renewable energies it will get better and better and, in the end, overtaking nuclear energy
Its sad, I believe Germany is going to shut down their plants if they haven't already. Nuclear energy isn't perfect but, its the best that we currently have considering the fact that fusion is only 30 years away. (That last point is a joke).
@@CrownTheGame doubt renewables are reaching their theoretical potential plus the massive amounts of batteries needed to store their energy to offset their deficiencies we need constant and reliable energy source of energy
@@CrownTheGame Those byproducts can be recycled into new fuel, as said in the video. It would take an extremely long time for renewable energy to beat out Nuclear. In fact it wont ever win unless we can cut down the amount of space we need for said renewable energy sources
@@CrownTheGame When we have the batteries... Maybe... But I thought climate needs to be fixed ASAP instead of "lets wait for the different tech"
As a Russian nuclear engineer I can do nothing, but agree with you.
I feel like Russia has a good nuclear program. Is that true?
@@witty_username8793 Well, I think we do. Infact we have the largest state-run nuclear company in the world.
@@filipblaskovic9420 love your Russian reactors. They are powering our smoky and unliveable cities! Love from India 🇮🇳❤️🇷🇺
@@witty_username8793
Post 1986 ya mean.
hail Hydra!
(Everyone freaking out about nuclear energy)
France: heh childs play
How about the REALITY for the last 4 advanced new nuclear projects in the U.S. over the last 20 years. Please don't base your knowledge on social media and YT videos when the truth is just a few clicks of the mouse and some reading. People today want to be spoon fed information instead of researching facts.
The Southeastern U.S. is super pro-nuclear MAGA, has zero anti-nukes, and 100% political support.
VC Summer (South Carolina) new nuclear units 2&3 were canceled in 2017 after spending $17 billion on the project (original estimate of $14 billion and 2016 completion date) with no clear end in sight for costs or schedule.
Vogtle (Georgia) new nuclear units 3 &4 currently 110% over budget and schedule (currently over $30 billion) and still not operating. Mid way into the build, the utility stated that had they known about the many costly delays they would never have chosen nuclear. They are now delayed another year because according to the project management, thousands of build documents are missing.
If you can’t build new nuclear in the MAGA super pro-nuclear southeast U.S. then where can you build it?
I just want to go for a run down the road and feel like I’m not breathing in car fumes
My dad was a nuclear engineer at the Lawrence Livermore Lab and my hero. Nuclear energy was, literally, the only thing we ever disagreed about politically. In 1976, we had opposing signs in our yards for Prop 15 in CA! Thank you for this thoughtful update. You've given me a reason to reevaluate my previous objections. As I watched, I sent a "You were right, Dad" message out to wherever he may be now that he's gone.
Have you still followed LLNLs work in nuclear? Their MSAHTR with thermochemical hydrogen splitting is freaking cool.
Unfortunately they’ve only made a white paper on it and it seems like the project is likely lost for a while now
You might be right back then, but they've made the technology a lot safer in the last 30-odd years so you would be on the same side now :)
Now go down the rabbit hole of Molten Salt Reactors... not sodium cooled reactors, but Molten Salt Reactors. "LFTR in 5 Minutes" is a great primer on a reactor tech that dates back to the late 50s and through the 60s.
Now go look at the newer gen reactors that use 95% of the nuclear energy than the one in the past that used 5%, the safety procedures that make nuclear meltdowns physically impossible, and the technology that let's us use nuclear waste produced by the old plants as fuel meaning no more need for mining.
Then go look at the environmental impacts that battery production has, the batteries that are used in solar and wind farms, then look at how much carbon emissions the chain of production of the materials for wind and solar produces, look at the energy efficiency of solar and wind (they're very inefficient) and how they are terrible to scale.
You'll not only understand why your dad was right, but you'll lose hope for humanity looking at how we're going from destroying the planet with fossils to destroying the planet with toxic chemicals and fossils but from behind the scenes while completely ignoring nuclear
Don't be fooled by this propaganda. WHO SAYS on all those figures quoted. The Nuclear Industry Marketing Association?
The reactor type that was used at Chernobyl was a highly unstable reactor. If it was a safer reactor, the accident might have never occurred
You’re correct, the design of the RBMK reactor was flawed in comparison to its graphite-moderated 1st generation (excluding pile reactor) Magnox counterparts in the United Kingdom. The Magnox fleet of UK reactors were so successful, they lasted well over 40 years in operation, despite being designed and constructed long before modern computational engineering.
Its reliability is a testament that even with its relatively low thermal efficiency in comparison to more modern reactors (early Magnox was primarily for plutonium production) that nuclear is absolutely safer than almost every other form of conventional energy generation out there.
The one that blow was build with mistakes. The night Apr 24-25 an old experienced crew got an order from Moscow to make load testing on reactor # 4. They knew that builders were in a hurry and made mistake. They refused to do it. Next night crew was young and ambitious. They just did what they were told to do. Unfortunately to a lot of people it ended up awful. There were much more than 51 victim and more death than that in a longer run. a lot of cancer and other unpleasant diseases. If that 4th reactor never had load testing and all the crews knew about building progress - it would still be working.
"It wasn't real socialism."
@@CvnDqnrU no one's saying that. we're proud of the USSR and want it back, most of us having lived in the USSR. its flaws and all.
@@vixen878 Of course, if you're a communist and young enough to not have lived there. But you didn't understand my point, these guys defend nuclear energy because "it hasn't been done correctly and this time we'll get it right" which is the same excuse of all failed techniques, ideologies and religions.
It is not a bad marketing problem, that nuclear plants fail
a) the safety of nuclear plants was REPEATEDLY downscaled....by who? oh yes. the constructor-companies behind these plants, who asked for state-funding and were often in parties active members, who agreed to these funding. This was discovered and proven after Chernobyl in Germany for example and supported the Stop of this energy sector in Germany. It happen in other nations in the exact same way, people just ignored it, like France ignoring nuclear problems by Chernobyl for local food production.
b) All nuclear plants don't solve the waste issue to this day. the cost of this waste is ALWAYS ignored by companies, who want to point at the efficiency of these plants. Only the cost of the storage under their property is calculated and even this is sometimes downplayed or actual so much downplayed, that these sited put their workers into dangerous situation, just to cut costs of storage for some weeks of this stuff.
c) the costs of the building nuclear sites is always not accurate and lower estimated than in reality. Not a single nuclear power plant was ever build without the funding by the state. This was justified with smaller electricity costs for these citizens, who paid this funding with their taxes. The reduction of electricity cost by nuclear power plants is rubbish. Most of this production is not financial interesting for these private nuclear plant companies, they make the money with the exports of this energy to single energy demanders (big companies) and on the global market, when the citizens and local industry don't need it. Thereby the effect of the site on the actual electricity market is small. Germany for example has exploding electricity prizes by the war in Ukraine and the lack of gas for their gas-plants, but Germany is still on the balance one of the biggest electricity exporter in Europa. the energy-companies in Germany were not effected by the stop of nuclear energy, but they used it as an excuse to raise costs for consumers, who are disliked to be supplied by these companies IN GENERAL.
d) the cost of deaths by nuclear plants is always highlighted and the lack of death-numbers by inccidents. But for some magical reasons it is ignored how much things like Chernobyl actual costed and WILL COST in the next hundred of years. First of all Chernobyl is economical partly at fault for the collapse of one of our two main worldpowers at these times. Second Chernobyl costs a shitton of money to get contained and a lot of people had to suffer in this process. the soviets simply ignored the effects of their forced demands onto these people. The lack of responsibility by the company in charge of Fukushima shows us the difference to Chernobyl in a western world. In our case a state has to cover for all expenses. This had a huge impact on the Japanese economy and forced them to create Abeism to use inflation and the greatest drop of wealth in Japan history since WW2 to cover up the consequences of this sole plant going critical by one simple mistake. And to use Chernobyl once again as an example for long term cost sin the future, please simply look up the cost of the new sarcophagus and the time until we have to build the third sarcophagus AGAIN, who has to envelop the second one AGAIN. And now imagine this for the rest of this millennia. THIS is the cost of this SOLE INCIDENT, that COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE.
e) In the USA, a country with a population density of only 37 per Km² the 54 sites were enough to give every citizen in the USA a dosis of 1054 Sv combined every single year. Dependent on your location you get more from this pie or less. normal is 0000000,4 Sv per human. it is a typical trick to downplay the effect of nuclear sites by simply stating average numbers and comparing it to single actions than. it is ignored, that the effec tof these 54 sites effect EVERYONE and ALWAYS.
If they report their numbers correctly, it is like every single US-citizen getting feed a banana over a whole year by these 54 sites, dependent on your area 10 or only one piece of it. Thats the effect, WHEN THEY WORK ans WHEN THEY ARE NOT OLD. So have a look at the map and find out how many bananas you are forced to eat per year just by these numbers.
f) the CLAIM, that modern nuclear powerplants cant meltdown is often CLAIMED, never proven and if it is not correct the claiming liar will not be responsible for his lie, that will burn billions of $ and probably kill some people or "just" steal a bit of their lives, so that we don't have to mention them in videos to pamper this idiotic idea in the future. A lot of these "new concepts" ignore to 100% the fact, that they are not constructed, because their concepts are not the most cost-efficent construction. We don't need nuclear powerplants, who are safe, if they can't produce enough energy in their runtime, to be efficient for the company in possession of this site. To hide this fact, the designs tend to increase the livetime of these reactors on paper, while the preventation mechanism against a meltdown will ALWAYS lead to less stability in the reactor core and this HAS TO REDUCE THE LIVETIME OF THE PLANT. And of course the correc tPicking of sites makes an accident like Fukushima impossible, because there is no ocean near the site...this is a bullshit-claim. in other sites, it will be a earthquake and a landslide or a terror-attack and a worker with a peanut allergy, that will create accidents. Accidents happen. the nuclear site safety idea claims "perfection" to make it safe, but ignored the reality of non-perfection in our world.
g) it is wrong to claim, that 90% of the waste can be recycled, this is simply a lie by this video. Only 90% of the high-quality radiation waste (actual radioactive material) is CLAIMED to be able to be recycled and than again made partly to waste again and than it drops to lower radiation waste. This is only MADE with LESS THAN 5%. This lower radiation waste has to be stored miles under the ground to prevent any danger by this waste to us, is the 80% majority of the waste and often the products, who came into direct contact with the actual radioactive material, but they are not itself an radioactive element in itself. You cant recycle this. Even worse these stores are build on the bury and forget presumption, so if the site is actual leaking radiation in a form, that is harmful to humans, WE CANT FIX IT. And for some magical reason there is not a dedicated site for storage in the USA. So all "secured" sites today are actual not for eternity, but will have to be costly recovered. This will increase the waste amount, because stuff down there will become radioactive by the contact with radioactive waste over decades. gj.
Each of your points is completely wrong or misleading, and I would bet you know actual facts but seem to have a pointless anti-nuke agenda.
@@ForbiddTV well, let me see the big amount of "actual facts" in your comment. A yes, zero.
Meanwhile, i point at actual historic incedences around nuclear plants, not mentioned in the video.
meanwhile i point at geography sizes and compare them to statistics and their mathematics elements and you call it misleading, if i actual name the context behind a number to downscale the problems in nuklear energy for decades already.
the arguments in this video are not new or original or correctly viewed and interpreted, but simply a re-heat of arguments for nuclear power from the 60ths with the additional claim, that nuclear plants would be the sole way to solve climate crisis with even more lack of understanding the scope of this crisis.
@@apollomars1678 I have a whole channel debunking what you deem as "facts". Since you insist on being embarrassed, let's start with your first meme and work our way through. It is already very apparent you are a complete waste of time and you will buckle immediately. Nuclear power has consistently proven to be the safest form of electricity generation man has ever devised, and when an accident does occur the industry learns from the mistakes and takes swift action to correct any misgivings.
Now answer to your first lie before we move on to your next.
I never will be tired of informing my students about the advantages of using nuclear energy. In our country (Philippines), almost all people are scared of nuclear energy because of how it was depicted in the media. They were scared of something they don't truly understand, fed by misinformation. We have a nuclear power plant here that was never used because people oppose it. That's why whenever possible, I try to debunk these lies on nuclear energy. We need a variety of clean energy sources during these times, and nuclear energy is one of the best options.
Thank you for this comprehensive video. It tells a lot. I'm definite that I will be using this in my class.
The Bataan Nuclear Power Plant, the only nuclear power plant was almost ready to be operational. However, due to the discovered fault line and the coincidental explosion of the Three Mile Island which then made the project into a halt. Not in a sense to ban Nuclear Energy in our Archipelago, but there should be a more safer location, considering that the Philippines is prone to earthquakes and volcanic eruption and engineering capabilities to make the plant seismic-proof(just like the Philippine Arena) with enough area to store its waste. You have a point that the advantages were beneficial since many hated high rate of electricity bills here and we're dependable on coal and our oil reserves.
In the new draft for a new constitution, I hope that law makers allow the existence of nuclear power plants in the archipelago.
My friend from the philipines actually is interested in nuclear energy because she doesnt know a lot about it. She moved to europe when she was 8. At what age do people start to fear nuclear energy?
@@jimseldiesel1362 There's no age actually. As soon as they were told by anyone or the media about the "dangers" of it, people starts to become scared of it. This happens without knowing all the facts.
@@SirKirkKino lucky she hasnt heard much about it. It was the first person i talked about nuclear energy that didnt have an opinion about it yet, blank paper. I hope I didnt turn her into a fanatic lol.
As a mechanical engineer student with dreams of working on advanced nuclear reactors. I love this video
Dude you've been on TH-cam for 4 years and you still don't have a good PFP
@@tanuki_sleep leave him alone, why do you care?
Your ultimate challenge is changing $$$ culture, the tech is possible.
Is this me from the future? I'm still not sure if I should mechanical engineering or nuclear engineering
Apparently if you want to work as nuclear engineer, the jobs are in China.
when billionaires start to demand nuclear energy plants in their neighborhoods down the street from them I'll support them. Until then ....
Finally some sense in these seriously deluded and sometimes demented comments. Those two ninnies are not just harmless morons, they are positively dangerous.
Until then keep paying lots of money for electricity.
Nuclear fusion is cool but it seems hard, But you know what's harder? Managing a actual nuclear power plant in Roblox in a server with 5-10 other people that might explode it.
Honestly, as a kid, I’d like to say thank you for teaching me more than school and making me hope to me a chemical engineer one day
Be*
I'm studying to be ChemE right now!! Definitely fun and challenging. I hope to help with nuclear power one day!
@@cosmor7521 that’s awesome! I hope your doin good so far :)
@nhà độc tài Yang Wen Li ok this is my language but you used it in such a way it confused me
If I didn't have youtube, school would have completely killed my curiosity. Public education is an abomination and a shameful excuse for an education. There is so much information kids NEED to know that they just don't get to hear. We are entirely responsible for our education these days. But I think that's a good thing, in some ways. Kids can consume so much information about things they WANT to know. I get to study quantum physics and biology niches that I never got to learn about in school.
So frustrating to hear people quote these myths as why nuclear sucks. As an engineering student who's been in a reactor I know firsthand how safe it is. Please keep spreading the word!
Man that sounds sick, how'd that come about?
As an engineering student, you know that energy of any kind from any source eventually becomes HEAT. We cannot allow additional heat to be pumped into our environment. We can only allow energy sources that derive from recent solar activity.
@@craigcorson3036 yes, because heat is the main issue.
Except solar related technology required deepearth mining and create far more waste, meaning this waste must be disposed of, all of these things using fossil guels and creating more heat that any nuclear reactor ever did.
Until we can create and use a dyson swarm, we have to rely on nuclear as its the cleanest and safest of all the energy production methods.
@@craigcorson3036 If you don't want heat, you don't want energy, regardless of the source. Have you got a solution as to how we feed 8 billion people without energy?
@@craigcorson3036 Someone skipped physics lessons then, because you should have been aware a physic law called Thermodinamics. ALL energy (regardless of its source, so including solar, wind etc.) are not vanishing, its just transform (and all of them into HEAT). So, your solution is going back to the medieval age, good luck convincing EVERY single country and every single man. By that ponit you can jsut go ahead and trigger WW3, thats your best bet to solve your worries - by killing all mankind or at least nuking all of us back into the stone age.
I love Climate radicals, their make Jihadist look like reasonable moderats all the time.
Nuclear power plants are ridiculously expensive mostly because A) environmentalists have thrown up extremely costly regulatory hurdles to their construction; and B) environmentalist have opposed newer ways to build them that are less expensive, meltdown-proof, and almost entirely automated.
This is the most advanced lowest cost design so far.
How can any YT video on nuclear power simply IGNORE the 5 nuclear new build failures in the U.S. in the last 20 years??? If it doesn’t fit their narrative, they just ignore it?
Social and YT videos are NOT the news. If you live in the U.S. here is the reality for the last 4 state of the art Westinghouse AP1000 ADVANCED passive safety features new nuclear power projects and spent fuel reprocessing and in the U.S. over the last 20 years. YT videos are great if you want to be spoon fed misinformation instead of researching facts.
The Southeastern U.S. is super pro-nuclear MAGA, has zero anti-nukes, and 100% media and political support.
The MOX facility (South Carolina) was a U.S. government nuclear reprocessing facility that was supposed to mix pure weapon grade Pu239 with U238 to make reactor fuel assemblies. It was canceled (2017) in the U.S. After spending $17 billion for a plant that was originally estimated to cost $1 billion and an independent report that estimated it would cost $100 billion to complete the plant and process all the Pu239, Trump canceled the project in 2017.
VC Summer (South Carolina) new nuclear units 2&3 were canceled in 2017 after spending $17 billion on the project (original estimate of $14 billion and 2016 completion date) with no clear end in sight for costs or schedule.
Vogtle (Georgia) new nuclear units 3 &4 currently 110% over budget and schedule (currently over $30 billion) and still not operating. Mid way into the build, the utility stated that had they known about the many costly delays they would never have chosen nuclear. They are now delayed another year because according to the project management, thousands of build documents are missing.
Please google any of this to confirm.
If you can’t build new nuclear in the MAGA super pro-nuclear southeast U.S. then where can you build it?
Fun fact. It took less than 2 years for the Japanese fishing industry to return, not only to pre accident levels, but previous historic levels. Why? Because they shut the commercial fishing industry down. Turns out human fishing has more of an impact on ocean life than the worlds 2nd worst nuclear disaster.
I love kurzgezagt (in a nutshel) and since then, I was a pro nuclear energy. Renewable energy is increasing but energy consumption in total is increasing too, so the renewable isnt suficient, we need nuclear energy to survive the climate changes
I watched a couple of those videos after this one, and came to a different conclusion. I'm currently paused at the pebble-bed reactor until I finished the entry from Wikipedia. Apparently it was a no-go in Germany and the two test models released radioactivity, one immediately after Chernobyl.
Why don't we use the money for nuclear energy to build more renewable engergy plants. Wouldn't it be convenient since solar and onshore wind are cheaper? We should keep the plants we have (and replace them when we close them), but the rest should just be renewable engergy.
@@letssaveourplanet5738 Offshore wind is the better renewable than ones you mentioned because it can provide steady power during the evening when peak demand hits as people turn on home appliances. We also need to reduce electrical and energy consumption - conservation and efficiency. Investing in renewables doesn't do much if it can't shut down a coal plant.
@@sandal_thong8631 I know offshore wind is more efficient. I was saying that it way more expensive than onshore. Of course we need to stop using fossil fuels and we need to decrease fossil fuels and energy consumption. But I don't see why we should use Nuclear energy if we can replace it with renewables. Also, some renewables like hydro electric, offshore wind and geothermal can produce during the evening. And we could also use lithium batteries to store energy and use it when we need it. Lithium batteries price is decreasing.
@@letssaveourplanet5738 We havent find a way to recycle lithium yet. And, besides, renewable energy is increasing slower than the global consumption. To keep up with global consumption, companies use fossil fuels, nuclear energy would be better insted of fossil fuels
I feel like every kid who grew up near anything with cooling towers legit thought that that’s how clouds were made for the first 10 years of their life.
legit turning river into cloud... hehehe
at one point when i was younger we had some smoke stacks from reffinerys where we lived and my mom would tell us (we were like 5) that they made clouds
My takeaway from this video: avoid bananas. 😂 (kidding, of course... I feel safer in a nuke plant them in a public school building today.)
I heard something about new nuclear reactors whose primary heating circuit is actually sodium salt, not water, but the secondary is still water. They say it's a lot smaller. I'll have to learn more about that.
I'm not scared about nuclear energy, im more scared about the nuclear waste it leaves behind
That's the fascinating thing about modern reactor concepts: many of them use what many peoply call "nuclear waste" at the moment as their fuel.
The nuclear "waste" has still more than 92% of its energy in it, modern reactor types can use most of that energy. There are calculations, that say that with the nuclear wase we have (including the waste from nuclear medicine and so on, which is much more than that from energy but nobody talks about it) we can keep humanity "energyzed" for between 50 and 150 years. And the waste that is left then will radiate for a maximum of about 500 years (compared to the millions that are now on the table)
So: nuclear "waste" is not a problem, it is a oportunity!
Good thing it's kept in foot-thick concrete-and-steel casks then. You'll never be confronted with it.
I used to feel that way, but then someone who was involved in the Yucca Mountain issue came and talked to my college class. He described how difficult it would be for any kind of leak to occur, and any degree of contamination was extremely unlikely. I also studied nuclear energy and molten salt reactors, and it's insane how much waste we can recycle / use until there's not much (highly) radioactive material left.
@@gtgrandom Unlikely and not occurring are not the same thing. Until we can completely account for human error there will always be a danger and radioactive doesn’t have to be highly radioactive to cause damage.
@@Fordi but guess what isn't kept in foot-thick concrete and steel casks? Carbon dioxide and monoxide!
There is way more than 51 death caused by Chernobyl, all the workers and people that lived around suffered contamination due to radiation even as far as Italy or England.
Very true they cherry picked information
That’s still one accident by human error which is avoidable with newer technology. Anti nuclear is just fear mongering nonsense
It's true, there are other estimates that give around 4,000 deaths from Chernobyl radiation exposure. But the thing is, even if you multiply those 51 deaths by 100,000 - you'd still be lower than the deaths air pollution from fossil fuels causes PER YEAR.
This also didn't touch on other energy disaster like for example the Banqiao water dam failure that happend just a few years before Chernobyl. The death toll is estimated to be up to 240,000, yet no one seems to remember that as particularly tragic.
@@uhohhotdog because technology clearly never goes wrong.
@@sertaki there are redundancy systems in modern installations.
When bribery is legal, replacing fossil fuels is a up hill battle.
51 people died of the Chernobyl incident, but 7.1 million have died of pollution... You guys have lost it.
This is a similar case rollercoasters if you think about it. Many are irrationally afraid of them just because they think they’re more dangerous than they really are. I mostly blame the media for popularizing these VERY rare disasters.
And airplanes. It's MUCH safer than driving, but when an accident happens suddenly everybody is scared
the reason it is different is because just one nuclear disaster can effect hundreds of generations over a wide area. One rollercoaster accident or airplane crash is totally different than one nuclear accident
@@Ben.Babylon a lot of people think a nuclear disaster occurs, and then it's done. Our nuclear disasters take generations of people to clean up. The new sarcophagus for Chernobyl is good for 100 years. Is 100 years forever?
AsapSCIENCE: **exists**
Historians: they were the bestest of friends, nothing more, nothing less
Oh my gawd.... ~they were roommates~
I'd rather live next to solar panels than a nuclear reactor
Solar power has been responsible for more deaths per TWh over the past 30 years than nuclear.
@@Crispr_CAS9 yet I'd still rather live near a solar farm that I don't enter than a nuclear power station I don't enter
@@Happy_Spatula It's okay that you're bad at math, most people are.
Ah the dive personal attack because that somehow is better logic @@Crispr_CAS9
@@Happy_Spatula he gave you logic. You ignored it.
This is quite comforting knowing I live about 9 minutes away from one
I did a 10 page paper on nuclear energy for a chemistry project in highschool, I was suprised by my research and even more confused as to why it was perceived as super dangerous
m.th-cam.com/video/v5K1ImzI24M/w-d-xo.html
Cuz most people who fear it are scared of the words nuclear, radiation and explosion
@50ph14 3F think it would blow their minds to know that most of the food they eat has been radiated to make it safe to eat?
@@BrianLocke I almost forgot about that
@50ph14 3F The media should explain the difference between radioactive and irradiated
I’m not a genius so I'm not gonna pretend to understand this but I really hope this works)
Nuclear is the way we need to go. It’s renewable and it’s reliable
I'll simplify: nuclear power is the future, everything else is idiotic
@@photoion1 it's not renewable. You burn U235, keep U238 underground with byproducts for later use in breeder reactors. It's where you make Pu239 out of U238. They don't do it for now, because it's expensive and uranium is cheap af. * Flies away *
@@bat0rgil
Hol up, ur not a worthy sauce giver hero to fly away...
@@photoion1 bro it's not renewable, it just has 0 carbon emission
As long as the psychopath is in charge, oil and coal will be used to boil water for the steam turbine generator 😢
How fast would we have moved to nuclear if the safety aspects of fossil fuels was as rigorous as nuclear. Coal is cheap, not because it is cheaper to mine and cheaper to build but because you are not required to contain and store the byproducts.
Still no talk about Thorium Nuclear Energy or make a video about it.
make it a reality and we will talk about it.
cause it's not functional yet?
Yes!! I've been interested in this forever!! They just won't do it!!!
thorium nuclear energy is theoretical right now, so it's not worth covering as much; you have the power to make this dream a reality.
"PBS Space Time" has a video on TH-cam.
If anyone remembers the show iCarly in Nickelodeon, one of their episodes also accurately described the mainstream fear of nuclear energy
Whats the episode?
I mean they demonstrated it but to say they accurately described it...the dude with the nuclear generator was portrayed as shifty and creepy, he was arrested at the end, and the characters went away thinking that they were deceived and put in danger by a strange man. It didn't even go into detail explaining how nuclear energy worked. Which, it's a kid's comedy show so I'm not saying they have to, but it can't even really be considered satire of nuclear hysteria because the narrative never showed the people scared of nuclear power as unreasonable, it showed him as a fundamentally untrustworthy, possibly unhinged person.
@@Mrjonnyjonjon123 iGoNuclear
All this discourse feels so foreign to me. I'm french and most of our electricity comes from nuclear energy, of course not everyone is for it. There is still the problem of nuclear waste, which is contained to avoid any problem. I understand anxieties about nuclear energy, but it truly isn't THAT bad. Thanks for this very informative video
Because France decided to flip off OPEC after the 1973 oil embargo, today you guys get like 95% from non fossil energies, a majority being Nuclear and Hydroelectric.. And evn today most of the French are for Nuclear power. I remember reading somewhere that each French person has something like 50g of nuclear waste as their footprint each year... if one lives 100 years, its 5kg of waste. Its nothing. in the same time you would go through how many sets of equivalent generation in wind turbine blades and solar panels? Like 4? And this is just with chemical reprocessing, no Superphenix FBR to help burn it up further.
Nuclear waste is recyclable since the 1960s.
The takeaway from this video is this profound statement : "The fear of nuclear energy is preventing us from having an honest discussion as a part of the energy transision"
Nuclear has trying to make a comeback but it is not fear but cost that is the problem.
. If you live in the U.S. here is the reality for the last 4 state of the art Westinghouse AP1000 ADVANCED passive safety features new nuclear power projects and spent fuel reprocessing and in the U.S. over the last 20 years. You decide if this YT video was presenting the truth.
The Southeastern U.S. is super pro-nuclear MAGA, has zero anti-nukes, and 100% media and political support.
The MOX facility (South Carolina) was a U.S. government nuclear reprocessing facility that was supposed to mix pure weapon grade Pu239 with U238 to make reactor fuel assemblies. It was canceled (2017) in the U.S. After spending $10 billion for a plant that was originally estimated to cost $1 billion and an independent report that estimated it would cost $100 billion to complete the plant and process all the Pu239, Trump canceled the project in 2017.
VC Summer (South Carolina) new nuclear units 2&3 were canceled in 2017 after spending $17 billion on the project (original estimate of $14 billion and 2016 completion date) with no clear end in sight for costs or schedule.
Vogtle (Georgia) new nuclear units 3 &4 currently 110% over budget and schedule (currently over $30 billion) and still not operating. Mid way into the build, the utility stated that had they known about the many costly delays they would never have chosen nuclear. They are now delayed another year because according to the project management, thousands of build documents are missing. If completed, Vogtle will be, for its output, the world’s most expensive nuclear power plant.
Please google any of this to confirm.
If you can’t build new nuclear in the MAGA super pro-nuclear southeast U.S. then where can you build it?
@@clarkkent9080 That's an excellent response and great points about the pro-nuclear south that I was not aware of. This video made a very small mention of the costs here but the facts you mention warrants another video in itself. Some other opposition to nuclear I heard was about it being too centralized. And both cost and decentralization can be better addressed by the newer and miniature nuclear things but they will need a lot more public support and attention to do quick enough R&D on to get them mainstream and enable financing etc. if private players are to be involved. I think that is where broad public support makes a huge difference in these early phase aspects rather than just the location of the plant. Any thoughts?
@@ppreshants After VC Summer and Vogtle no U.S. utility is even remotely interested in ew nuclear. And if at some point in the future a utility does show interest, it takes 16 years to bring one to service so I don't think you will be seeing any new nuclear plants any time soon.
Here is the story on SMR.
This is from the Des Moines Register an concerning the only Small Modular Reactor (SMR) project in the U.S. today. It should be noted that NuScale said this month (Jan/2023) the target price for power from the plant is $89 per megawatt hour, up 53% from the previous estimate of $58 per MW hour
In 2013, the Wall Street firm Lazard estimated that the cost of generating electricity at a new nuclear plant in the United States will be between $86 and $122 per megawatt-hour. Last November, Lazard estimated that the corresponding cost will be between $131 and $204 per megawatt-hour based upon the 4 recent new nuclear projects in the U.S. . During the same eight years, renewables have plummeted in cost, and the 2021 estimates of electricity from newly constructed utility-scale solar and wind plants range between $26 and $50 per megawatt-hour. Nuclear power is simply not economically competitive.
SMRs will be even less competitive. Building and operating SMRs will cost more than large reactors for each unit (megawatt) of generation capacity. A reactor that generates five times as much power will not require five times as much concrete or five times as many workers. This makes electricity from small reactors more expensive; many of the original small reactors built in the United States were financially uncompetitive and shut down early.
The estimated cost of constructing a plant with 600 megawatts of electricity from NuScale SMRs, arguably the design closest to deployment in the United States, was originally advertised as costing $1 billion but upon requesting actual bids from engineering firms, increased to $6.1 billion in 2020. Given inflation and other cost constraints that cost today can only be expected to be significantly higher.
The cost was so high that ten members of Utah Associated Municipal Power Systems canceled their contracts. NuScale then changed its proposed plant configuration to 6 fewer reactors but increased each reactor output from 50 Mw to 77 Mw costing at total of $5.3 billion. The NRC just last week approved the construction of the 50 Mw design but now will have to start the review process all over given the switch to a 77 Mw design. For each kilowatt of electrical generation capacity, that estimate is around 80% more than the per-kilowatt cost of the Vogtle project in Georgia - before its cost exploded from $14 billion to over $30 billion. Based on the historical experience with nuclear reactor construction, SMRs are very likely to cost much more than initially expected. And they now have delayed the project start until 2025 in an attempt to find more backers. All this before the inevitable setbacks that will occur once construction starts.
@@clarkkent9080 Thank you for the very detailed response and for engaging my question. Do you write any blog on this issue that I can follow? If not I would say you have enough content to start one :)
@@ppreshants I worked in the nuclear industry for 40+ years at five different facilities and am pro nuclear. I am retired but keep up with the industry. I simply try to bring some facts and reality to YT videos that are posted purely for the content creator to make money and not to factually present all the information. It is a very complex and diverse subject and it is difficult to make an accurate YT video just by googling the word. My knowledge and experience only applies to the U.S. so I cannot speak to what happens in other countries.
The video has a pretty good message. One thing i want to point out:
The death toll of chernobyl is highly debated. 31 People died from the immediate impact, but the WHO estimates as much as 4000 people will die in the long term. A highly controversal russian estimated as much as 110.000 long term deaths (This study is disputed though)
In fukushima (which death toll was not mentioned at all) one person died directly from the disaster and up to 2200 were killed as a result of the evacuation and resettling efforts.
These numbers are still lower than other disasters but it's only fair to mention them as well when talking about them.
I think the true numbers of Chernobyl will be debated for years to come but will still per kW be along the lines of wind and solar over all.
It must also be noted that as a result of the Fukashima incident, the japanese shut down almost all of its nuclear plants and switched to fossil fuels instead for "safety". This switched caused over 20,000 deaths due to pollution. That's more than 10x the deaths of all the direct and indirect deaths from the nuclear incident.
Also it must be noted, the deaths due to the evacuation were at a time that most of Japan's west coast was destroyed and in chaos and hospitals / services already unable to cope.
People do tend to not consider the long term effects.
yes! i was totally thinking about this while i heard that. i think it’s important to talk about the benefits and i will always be pro nuclear- but i think maybe they could’ve covered that the death toll of chernobyl is controversial.
yup. downplaying czernobyl rubbed me the wrong way
I think, the video does in general a great job at downplaying the problems with fision. Of cause there are many irrational claims out there. But it is still true that fision is extremely expensive. It is so expensive to build such power plants that Investors for newly built plants don't exist in several places. And nowhere in the world exists a solution for the waste in practise. The costs next generations will have due to the waste are unestimated.
If every country chose the french way the uranium would reach only for some decades. One or two generations benefit, hundreds will pay the price. Castors in Germany for example are save for fourty years, and there we talk about the highly radioaktive waste...
Yes, there are more moderns systems discussed. Most of them are discussed since the 60's. Wow, that makes me hopefull.
Perhaps we need fision to some extend. But the is no way around building lots and lots of renewables.
"Never let a crisis go to waste." This mantra seems to have been taken to heart especially within the anti-nuclear movement. And sadly, that movement seems to rely heavily on the ignorance of the general public when it comes to nuclear energy. Further, they also rely on the ignorance of the general population to not know that that the fissionable material in nuclear reactors and nuclear missiles are *NOT* the same, so have easily convinced at least some of the public that "Every nuclear plant is a nuke just waiting to go off."
The problem with Chernobyl was that it quickly became a victim of the Cold War. much like the anti-nuclear movement as a whole. And the stoking of fear that this could happen anywhere in the US was completely unfounded, as the only reactor similar to Chernobyl was located in Washington State - which is a graphite-core reactor, similar to Chernobyl. Yes, it was human error at Chernobyl, as plant management wanted to prove that a quick shutdown of the plant was possible, and ignored all safety protocols. (It is quite likely that plant management were more interested in moving up the ranks within the Communist Party by doing this.)
With Fukushima, the initial problems had *NOTHING* to do with the plant itself. See, the plant was situated behind tsunami barriers that everyone thought was safe against the waves generated by the earthquake that had happened offshore. The problem was that no-one had noticed that the earthquake had caused about 450 KM of the coastline to drop by a full meter (just over 3 feet), so they became useless. Add in that the plant's cooling system was generated by diesel-powered pumps - instead of being gravity-fed, like in most other nuclear power plant designs, like the CANDU reactor - that shut off once the fuel supply became contaminated by sea water. Then, it was decided to try and cool down the plant itself with sea water, which only exacerbated the problem.
"Initial problems had NOTHING to do with the plant itself". Now sit down, take a deep breath and THINK. At some point you will understand why this is biggest problem in whole nuclear industry.
What i find strange is that the anti crowd Are the same people who go full on Thunberg. People who cant accept any negative consequences. Solar for all, if it works or not. Medicine for all too, but no animal testing or research that comes close to any ethically sensitive topics…
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It's a fact that nuclear power was developed as a way to supply material for nuclear weapons. That's the scary part as is the concept of MAD.
@@yodab.at1746 That literally has nothing to do with nuclear war. Nuclear power plants don't automatically mean nuclear weapons. Nuclear Weapons are developed because of political instability.
I have lived within 25 miles of Perry Nuclear Power Plant, Unit 1, since it was built in 1986. The local energy provider and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission provided extensive informational documents, public meetings and media releases to raise awareness of the science, technology and safety of nuclear energy. I have never felt unsafe or afraid or insecure regarding the plant which has provided the region with clean and relatively cheap energy for more than 1/2 of my life.
Unfortunately, due to the hysteria surrounding nuclear energy, Unit 2 was never completed and the technology was cannibalized to fix active reactors or to sell for scrap.
Not sure where we go from here.
If you have doubts about nuclear energy, watch Pandora's Promise, a documentary produced by former nuclear OPPONENTS!
Thanks to AsapScience for presenting this topic in an easily understood format.
Damn how much I hate people saying "the truth about..." , Especially when they then proceed not saying the truth
than what is the truth?
I've always been pro-nuclear, but I've noticed a lot of videos on the subject focus more on comparing nuclear power to fossil fuels. Would you consider doing a video directly comparing the pros and cons vs different forms of renewable energy?
I'm from New Zealand which is a country that has historically had a lot of anti-nuclear sentiment. A large part of this comes from concerns about how nuclear power plants would behave in a country that is as prone to earthquakes as ours. Do you have any information on what modern safety measures nuclear power plants have to deal with natural disasters?
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My understanding is that per unit of electricity generated, nuclear, including the lifecycle of construction, mining, decommissioning, etc., and factoring in Chernobyl and Fukushima, is comparable to solar, wind, and hydro in terms of greenhouse gases and other emissions and in terms of deaths caused (safety), and a couple of orders of magnitude better than any fossil fuel on both counts. In fact nuclear may be a little cleaner and safer than hydro, and maybe than wind or solar too once you factor in battery storage. Initial construction costs for nuclear plants are more expensive for various reasons, including safety and environmental standards that fossil fuel plants don’t have to meet, but again factoring in battery storage it might not be any more expensive than wind and solar and maybe less in the long term.
They are compared to fossil because fossil is worse for the environment and is a baseload source, unlike renewables. Nuclear is a baseload source.
@@matthewv789 Considerably cheaper. To fully replace 1000 MW of energy, you need one standard-size nuclear reactor, like a Westinghouse AP1000, that might all up cost US$15 billion (which is a high estimate, the same amount of money has delivered four-reactor nuclear power complexes in parts of the world that aren't the US), it will give clean energy for 18 months before needing to be shut down for a week to have its fuel assemblies rearranged in the core.
To achieve the same with solar power and its associated battery system would need over US$280 billion in panels, infrastructure, and batteries. Batteries and solar panels aren't going to be getting any cheaper for a while thanks to economic disruption, supply shortages of Lithium, and the realisation that most solar panels have only gotten as cheap as they are on the backs of the absolutely filthy Chinese tech industry.
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Gen III+ nuclear powerplants have to handle a magnitude 9 direct hit with no prior warning.
For Japan, the P wave warning system have stopped the nuclear plants every time so far. Actally saving a lot more life due to the power being cut seconds prior to the earthquake hit.
@@matthewv789 Simply tell me, are you okay with Iran, Iraq and North Korea building as many nuclear power plants as they want? Or, do you believe only the United States is entitled to build nuclear power plants? Over 2,000 nuclear *BOMBS* have been detonated with thousands more stockpiled. The material to make all existing and detonated nuclear bombs came almost entirely from nuclear power plants built for 'peaceful' purposes.
I know so little about Nuclear Energy that I can’t even think of any lies I’ve heard. But I’m excited to find out more!
seriously, educate yourself on nuclear energy. it's an amazing subject and really worth the time and effort. you'll definitely enjoy it. especially all the new and improved technology that is being researched about ways of creating safe clean power.
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@@AxxLAfriku no
I have a video on my channel explaining on how nuclear energy. It was a school project, so it’s kind of boring, but it explains a lot.
I recommend watching the video at 1.5 to 2 times speed. I talk pretty slow in the presentation.
Extremely expensive to maintain the safety of nuclear wastes. People will eventually cut corners and endanger people. I beg to differ
People like you maybe, but modern nation don't do that
In a video with the “truth” in the title, you would expect much better research into the subject. For example, Chernobyl and it’s impact was intentionally downplayed and severally underreported. The BBC did an investigation into this and have an excellent article on this. I recommend anyone interested search it at BBC by Richard Gray from July 25, 2019. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people affected with serious health problems by what happened and a fund set up that is paying out to almost 1 million people (with documented health problems associated with exposure to radioactive material).
I work for a power company with nuclear plants and toured a few.
After Chernobyl and Fukushima, nuclear plants in the states have increased safety measures to further prevent disasters from happening.
Since 9/11 security increased. Like a lot.
I actually work at a nuclear plant.
@@SgtMajorSav Okay, then share your expirience i guess.
@@loganwolv3393 what would you like to know? The measures put in place for beyond design input? Primary and secondary systems? The process of heat transfer? Steam generators? Turbine and how it produces power? MSRs? I dont mind answering questions. I'm in a department where I had to take systems training so ask away if you have specific questions.
@@SgtMajorSav I do actually have 2 questions.
1. What's your opinions on thorium salt reactors? Seems to me that they offer the benefit of lower grade nuclear byproducts overall, as well as increased safety measures in the case of critical failure.
2. Do you have an opinion on fusion and it's viability.
Im pissed that you missed talking about SMR reactors. They are literally like awesome at how cost effective and amazing they are. They are literally the solution to cost-effective reactors that can be partially built while being in operation. (Seems scary but its really safe).
can you intentionally make it blow to cause mass damage?
@@nydydn can you intentionally blow up an oil refinery or a coal mine to cause mass damage?
@@VenzoGames don't be silly, of course you can, but an oil refinery is expensive, difficult to move, and it's a joke of an explosion compared to nuclear reactors.
I wanted to see SMR discussion too. They can shut down without a person there for 72 hours.
@@nydydn no! Molten salt reactors literally can't melt down, you should look them up. They're really cool! And even if you could, it would still be less harmful that the oil industry. The US is literally in an ever-war with Iraq over oil.
as someone who lived through Chernobyl, i can confidently call you on your b-s about only 51 people dying as a result of it.
nuclear energy is among the cleanest we have, but you posting lies about accidents doesn't do it any favours
Actually way more people died from Chernobyl
There were other consequences of Chernobyl: In 2018, the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR) reported that the accident also was responsible for nearly 20,000 documented cases of thyroid cancer among individuals who were under 18 years of age at the time of the accident in the three affected countries including Belarus, Ukraine and the Russian Federation. Plus, an area that will be highly contaminated for thousands of years.
Pick any number of death or cancers, it will still be small compared with the people that are dying every year with fossils. Yes, nuclear has consequences but so small compared to other sources that it makes it safe. Plus no climate change that is heating the area of ... the whole planet.
Yeah, this video glanced over data of post-radiation exposure mortality. It would be relevant if you are painting a honest convo.
Not for thousands of years after 50 years that place will be environmental safe
@@aiminathnaazima1403 No, it's not so. Google it, if you don't believe me. "...is estimated to remain highly radioactive for up to 20,000 years."
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The same Google provides data that the radiation level has dropped to natural levels.
Or "this is different"?
"We" are not "addicted" to fossil fuel. Politicians are addicted to lobby money. "We" or many of us can go full green right at home and save themselves a bunch of money in process. In the long run anyway, especially considering the recent advances in battery technology.
Solid State batteries are coming pretty soon. They are reportedly much safer than a Li-Ion battery as they don't suffer from explosions.
"You" are ... energy is used on your behave, whether you like it or not. All the infrastructure which keeps your life stable uses power. So unless you live alone in the woods, never go anywhere, or have any service provided for you, make all your own goods by hand, grow all your own food, built your own shelter by hind with only materials found near you .... "you" are addicted as well.
@@twells138 Good point. I did mill and build my house. I do grow my own food. But I am unable to produce Solar panels and batteries using my own resources. For a company to produce power for me with the same method requires that they expend the same resources. It's a good thing they can magically do what i can't. I dont know what i was thinking.
@@ForestSongUnLTD You seem to be more aware than most. Didn't mean to be flippant, but most who make the claims you did do not understand the energy spent on their behalf. Sewer systems, roads, hospitals, fire stations, schools, etc. All use energy, and a persons energy footprint is more tied into these than the amount they use personally.
Yes, lobby money from green groups they keep nuclear out renewables always need coal and gas.
I worked for a big-city power company back in the ‘80s. We were partial owners of a nuclear power plant that was under construction. My department had direct involvement with the nuclear plant, so I went out to the site many, many times over several years. I was able to get a full tour of the plant, including the reactor core (which was so cool!), and every part of the process of producing energy through nuclear fission was explained to us by actual nuclear physicists.
That’s all to say that I have a pretty good grasp on how it all works. It is a crime against humanity that we aren’t building more nuclear power plants in this country. We could shut down ALL fossil-fuel power plants in the U.S. if we were using enough nuclear power.
As long as Republicans have any power, though, we’ll keep destroying our planet through the consumption of fossil fuels. They don’t care that we’re making things worse for future generations. They believe their imaginary god is going to end the world as it is today any day now. It’s a mental illness that’s going to destroy us all.
I work on nuclear submarines and a big advocate for nuclear energy. I loved the video. I’m a little late to the party but keep up the good work.