Para Ordnance P12 LDA - Compared to 3 Other Compacts
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Para Ordnance was founded 35 years ago, in Canada of all places, by Ted Szabo (a Hungarian ex-pat) and Thanos Polyzos (who had immigrated from Greece). The company grew slowly and specialized in 1911s. In 2009, Para USA began domestic production in North Carolina. The Freedom Group bought them in 2012.
The company built its reputation on rock-solid, no-frills 1911s. The guns sometimes strayed into more radical designs. Para pioneered double stack single actions and developed a double action for the 1911 that gained favor with law enforcement. In fact, if you look at the history of the company and the design innovations they developed, you’ll see evidence of a true dedication to the 1911. Think about the time frame we’re talking about here. In the mid-1980s, the American military kicked the old 1911 design to the curb. The era of polymer-framed double-actions was just ramping up.
Instead of jumping on that bandwagon, Para answered the 1911’s critics. You want more capacity? Try the double-stack with 14+1 of 45acp. You don’t trust single action? They can fix that, too. You want a 1911 that runs reliably, every single time? Pick up a Para.
Para, by all accounts, is a kick-ass brand. Back in the Day, several professional shooters who run Paras. These are people with skills and means, who could carry any 1911 on the market, and they carry Paras. We know the brand Para went out of business in 2016. The Para name will disappear. Maybe forever. It will go away for a while, at least. The companies that own them often resurrect brands in the name of nostalgia. Or ambitious entrepreneurs bring them back from the grave. Either way, I doubt we’ve seen the last of Para.
Very tough looking pistol !🇺🇸🗽👍
It is bulldog beautiful
It is perfect for me, but my only reservation is the 4lbs 10oz trigger pull. Too much for my afflicted right had to pull the trigger. I might get the non LDA version if there is one. The SAR is 3/8 too long both ways but trigger works in both hands.
You compared the para ordnance to odd ball guns if you want to do a comparison you should use more common 1911 style guns . Out of all comparisons, the CZ was the only one I was semi familiar with. I make leather holster and I often are approached to make holsters for "clones" or "knock off" and most aren't worth the money nor the note to mention, much like your comparison models.
My dad said never buy a 1911 when John Browning invented the double stack High Power. I have zero 1911 single stacks. Sorry i do have the Heizer PKO 45 and Browning Buckmaster. I have most every CZ and CZ clone, many Hi Powers and clones and five 2011 + two Para Ordnance P12. As a rule, i never buy single stacks. Otherwise I would have a Sig p210 Carry Custom or maybe a 1911.
Do you know if they made that same model in 9mm or .40?
Thanks
Yes, The Para Ordnance P12-45 pistol comes in the following calibers:
.45 ACP
.40 S&W
9 mm
.38 Super
The P12 is a small semi-automatic pistol that weighs 35 ounces when loaded. With a spare magazine, the P12-45 can hold 24 rounds.
Also search P13
@@WheeledandWellArmed ok thanks
How Price?
You can only buy the Para Ordnance used $600 to $800. Remington bought them and a new R1 Remington Commander averages $1000. Prices of what I see on GB.
Very nice looking pistol and great video buddy
Thanks for looking!
I believe Remington bought Para and all there ideas. Hopefully they'll reserect the name
I wonder with me Remington bankruptcy who would buy the para ordinance name
Yes, someone now can buy the name, patents, plans but not sure if cnc machines and tooling was liquidated. Where was the last location? I think they started in FL, moved to Canada and then NC.
@@WheeledandWellArmed They started in Canada then to Florida after that ?? I hope all the ideas will be preserved
I never looked in it the smaller p10 or the lda but its clear a lot of work when into them, very nice
Yes any P10 fetched 9 bills. I'm a quadriplegic and the trigger breaks at 4.5 lbs but if you pull it faster it is 3lbs.
How’s yours run? I dumped mine due to it being a jam- o-matic
Zero issues, I EDCed it yesterday downtown ATLANTA
@@WheeledandWellArmed that’s good news indeed. I bought mine with the intentions of it being my every day carry as well. I am in Lancaster County PA. It was used so I figured it would’ve already been broken in at someone else’s expense. It had failure to go into battery with both magazines an average of once per mag. I replaced all the springs, polished the feed ramp, tried various ammo and made sure everything was well lubed but just couldn’t get it to run. I wanted it to work so bad but I just couldn’t trust it. I guess I just had a lemon. After watching your video I kind of wish I had it back now that I have another 10 years experience to try to work with it again.
@@bripro68 My gunsmith hates Para-Ordnance. I have a black one with a 1911 trigger that feels like the slide is gritty. It is the spring but has been reliable except for the first round, the slide got stuck back. I oiled it and haven't had any issues again. I put 500 rounds in it and had it milled for a red dot that was sitting around. It's reliable but not sure about the $200 Sig Sauer dot.
@@bripro68 I'm looking at the Remington R1 Commander but they are getting $1200.
Mine only jammed because of the magazine it came with. Works well with regular mags.
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Fun to shoot finding an all metal 45acp is more difficultt I would have thought
With 4lbs 10oz means that I can't use my right hand
You've got me interested in buying one soon. Have you found it to be reliable? Do you know if it will accept commander sized grips? Do you think it will work with higher capacity double stack para magazines?
Yes, both the LDA and 1911 triggers on the P12 are reliable. I EDC the LDA daily.
Maybe, I haven't tried the grips but 99% aftermarket grips will work, it looks flat but have not taken them off. I will this weekend.
Yes, I think the P14 mag will work. I have not but will also try the SAR K2 45 and IWI 941 45acp mags.
@@WheeledandWellArmed Thank you. The government just sent me some extra money and I think they want me to buy another defensive weapon with it. LOL
@@RealCptHammonds Captain, it seems to me you now have a mission and would be following government orders. There are also the P10, even smaller. IMHO the P10 is too small and the P12 is the G19 sized Goldilocks. I do not know if only the LDA is lighter but my LDA is much lighter than the 1911 style trigger. Maybe research if there are P12 1911 triggers with alloy lowers if you want to go with that trigger. Good luck and let me know your results.