@@The_Other_Guy783come through to Zim and tell us exactly how shameless we are. I will accommodate you for a week (l will not guarantee your safety from guys in Ray Bans though).
@@The_Other_Guy783 come through, show us the full extent of your pride and tell us just how shameless we are to our faces. l will even host you fora week (l can not guarantee your safety from Ray Ban wearing guys though).
@BatsiraiMusuka 😄 Unlike you clowns, I'm not in the business of jumping borders. Besides, even if I do come to Bulawayo, it's not like you guys will be home. You are everywhere else besides your own country. 🚮
this is ntate gang hustle , they use stranded people especially foreigners 80% . its like drugs industry owned by nigerians but local use it to benefit the drug lords.
One day as South African we wll be subjected to this life n we will understand their struggles....even if its nt this generation bt thnk abt ur children.......💢💔
You talking nonsense. As South Africans, we are a lot of things, cowards is not one of them. We would definitely take on any regime that might attempt to take away our rights. Zimbabweans ate busy playing the victim card running all over the world. Who will fix that sh*t show happening because of that Cartel in government?
We will blame them they destroying our economy trustworth, government plays 25% conteibution butninveators look at the market and our market is being destroyed by these people they are not here to only survivebut destroy the country credibility. Look how tjey destroyed our visa exhcnage agreements and programs because of them using fake visas posing as south africansz they have criminal records, they have increased human trafficking, no human being would invest. So wena instead of protecting south africa to not be like thwir countries and secure the future of your kids you want them to destroy our country while their countries are getting better and better and they will gladly leave when SA is dry
These is pure disrespect to our country, we have no borders, people can just walk in and out of the country - even worse athi he can just go uza bona phambili.
I understand their struggles in Zimbabwe and other countries but they have mines in their countries so why not zama zama there but come and disrespect south africa no this is wrong.
Watch the Gold Mafia, this thing is bigger than Zim or South Africa. There is a global pipeline and South Africa is a higher step up the ladder. All our minerals (legal and illicit go through South Africa).
@@BatsiraiMusukaon the legal front, isn't it because of Zim govt sanctions you have to access markets through SA? On the illicit part, I think it's because SA is both politically stable and unable to enforce law. I know that may sound contradictory
@@siyabongamviko8872 l understand and agree to the second part to what you are saying. The first part is not as simply put however. Are sanctions affecting us? Yes. Does it stop big multinational mines from operating? Absolutely not. By design minerals are extracted in Zimbabwe as ore and processed in SA (let me give the example of the biggest mining group in Zimbabwe, Zimplats… 87% of that is owned by Implats, a South African mining group). It is advantageous for them as they need not invest in a processing plant in Zimbabwe, they just take the platinum ore as is (including a number of other sub product rare minerals that part of the ore… these are undeclared by the way as the ore is treated as “just ore”…”no one knows how much gold or palladium or iridium etc is in any assignment of extracted ore” and this is legal. That’s just how it is). Zim and SA have always been joined at the hip since before both our independence (especially in the mining sector and this is not unique to Zim by the way). Our governments found things that way and they just continued as the previous regimes had established things. That’s just the legal side. You can imagine what the illegal side looks like if you now see how the legal side looks like. Now, it’s perfect timing that we are talking about this issue as right now the Government of Congo has filed a law suit against Apple for indirectly funding rebels in the extraction of Coltan from the Congo. This is a hard one to prove (but l understand there are ways to ascertain whether the allegations are true an to what extent), but the route is very murky between the ore being extracted going through rebels, to when it finally re-emerges on the legal market and is purchased by Apple (or any other multinational electronics manufacturer… Apple just happened to be the biggest and they went for the biggest example they could try aim for) By the way, all this l just described is not exclusive to the mining sector. Similar is happening with Cocoa, Tobacco, Gold, Copper, Water (yes even water), Tomatoes (the tomatoes one is absolutely fascinating and has been well documented her on TH-cam by Al Jezeera, BBC and DW through the years)
@@siyabongamviko8872 l understand and agree to the second part to what you are saying. The first part is not as simply put however. Are sanctions affecting us? Yes. Does it stop big multinational mines from operating? Absolutely not. By design minerals are extracted in Zimbabwe as ore and processed in SA (let me give the example of the biggest mining group in Zimbabwe, Zimplats… 87% of that is owned by Implats, a South African mining group). It is advantageous for them as they need not invest in a processing plant in Zimbabwe, they just take the platinum ore as is (including a number of other sub product rare minerals that part of the ore… these are undeclared by the way as the ore is treated as “just ore”…”no one knows how much gold or palladium or iridium etc is in any assignment of extracted ore” and this is legal. That’s just how it is). Zim and SA have always been joined at the hip since before both our independence (especially in the mining sector and this is not unique to Zim by the way). Our governments found things that way and they just continued as the previous regimes had established things. That’s just the legal side. You can imagine what the illegal side looks like if you now see how the legal side looks like. Now, it’s perfect timing that we are talking about this issue as right now the Government of Congo has filed a law suit against Apple for indirectly funding rebels in the extraction of Coltan from the Congo. This is a hard one to prove (but l understand there are ways to ascertain whether the allegations are true an to what extent), but the route is very murky between the ore being extracted going through rebels, to when it finally re-emerges on the legal market and is purchased by Apple (or any other multinational electronics manufacturer… Apple just happened to be the biggest and they went for the biggest example they could try aim for) By the way, all this l just described is not exclusive to the mining sector. Similar is happening with Cocoa, Tobacco, Gold, Copper, Water (yes even water), Tomatoes (the tomatoes one is absolutely fascinating and has been well documented her on TH-cam by Al Jezeera, BBC and DW through the years)
@@mmanaremangale1209 reply to Siyabonga: l understand and agree to the second part to what you are saying. The first part is not as simply put however. Are sanctions affecting us? Yes. Does it stop big multinational mines from operating? Absolutely not. By design minerals are extracted in Zimbabwe as ore and processed in SA (let me give the example of the biggest mining group in Zimbabwe, Zimplats… 87% of that is owned by Implats, a South African mining group). It is advantageous for them as they need not invest in a processing plant in Zimbabwe, they just take the platinum ore as is (including a number of other sub product rare minerals that part of the ore… these are undeclared by the way as the ore is treated as “just ore”…”no one knows how much gold or palladium or iridium etc is in any assignment of extracted ore” and this is legal. That’s just how it is). Zim and SA have always been joined at the hip since before both our independence (especially in the mining sector and this is not unique to Zim by the way). Our governments found things that way and they just continued as the previous regimes had established things. That’s just the legal side. You can imagine what the illegal side looks like if you now see how the legal side looks like. Now, it’s perfect timing that we are talking about this issue as right now the Government of Congo has filed a law suit against Apple for indirectly funding rebels in the extraction of Coltan from the Congo. This is a hard one to prove (but l understand there are ways to ascertain whether the allegations are true an to what extent), but the route is very murky between the ore being extracted going through rebels, to when it finally re-emerges on the legal market and is purchased by Apple (or any other multinational electronics manufacturer… Apple just happened to be the biggest and they went for the biggest example they could try aim for) By the way, all this l just described is not exclusive to the mining sector. Similar is happening with Cocoa, Tobacco, Gold, Copper, Water (yes even water), Tomatoes (the tomatoes one is absolutely fascinating and has been well documented her on TH-cam by Al Jezeera, BBC and DW through the years)
l understand and agree to the second part to what you are saying. The first part is not as simply put however. Are sanctions affecting us? Yes. Does it stop big multinational mines from operating? Absolutely not. By design minerals are extracted in Zimbabwe as ore and processed in SA (let me give the example of the biggest mining group in Zimbabwe, Zimplats… 87% of that is owned by Implats, a South African mining group). It is advantageous for them as they need not invest in a processing plant in Zimbabwe, they just take the platinum ore as is (including a number of other sub product rare minerals that part of the ore… these are undeclared by the way as the ore is treated as “just ore”…”no one knows how much gold or palladium or iridium etc is in any assignment of extracted ore” and this is legal. That’s just how it is). Zim and SA have always been joined at the hip since before both our independence (especially in the mining sector and this is not unique to Zim by the way). Our governments found things that way and they just continued as the previous regimes had established things. That’s just the legal side. You can imagine what the illegal side looks like if you now see how the legal side looks like. Now, it’s perfect timing that we are talking about this issue as right now the Government of Congo has filed a law suit against Apple for indirectly funding rebels in the extraction of Coltan from the Congo. This is a hard one to prove (but l understand there are ways to ascertain whether the allegations are true an to what extent), but the route is very murky between the ore being extracted going through rebels, to when it finally re-emerges on the legal market and is purchased by Apple (or any other multinational electronics manufacturer… Apple just happened to be the biggest and they went for the biggest example they could try aim for) By the way, all this l just described is not exclusive to the mining sector. Similar is happening with Cocoa, Tobacco, Gold, Copper, Water (yes even water), Tomatoes (the tomatoes one is absolutely fascinating and has been well documented her on TH-cam by Al Jezeera, BBC and DW through the years)
LOL this guy knows how to tell a story, Bo Ntate bayi problem🤣,May God bless your lives and protect you
This is the 1st time I see this Mask fit so perfectly! lol
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🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂this guy looks exactly like the mask
Now, wee want interview with "Bo Ntate waka" to balance the whole equation
yha like how do they become boses of zama zamas
@@RichardMaswanganye facts
Yes please.
🤣🤣🤣Basotho are a problem..The Ntate Part killed me!
lol bully bully
i so wish uyfumane bhuti i 50k or more lena uyfunayo then ukwazi uGoduka than uhlaleleMpilo💯
Blame the Zimbabweans all you like, but having listened to these guys, i have realized that this is beyond just the Zimbabweans
@@The_Other_Guy783come through to Zim and tell us exactly how shameless we are. I will accommodate you for a week (l will not guarantee your safety from guys in Ray Bans though).
@The_Other_Guy783 what the heck 😳 dude !
@@The_Other_Guy783 come through, show us the full extent of your pride and tell us just how shameless we are to our faces. l will even host you fora week (l can not guarantee your safety from Ray Ban wearing guys though).
@BatsiraiMusuka 😄 Unlike you clowns, I'm not in the business of jumping borders. Besides, even if I do come to Bulawayo, it's not like you guys will be home. You are everywhere else besides your own country. 🚮
this is ntate gang hustle , they use stranded people especially foreigners 80% .
its like drugs industry owned by nigerians but local use it to benefit the drug lords.
Mkhwanazi start with Sothos 1st sizobuye sibabone abanye, kudingeka amasotsha to deal with the Sothos.
Such a good person with unfortunates with life
One day as South African we wll be subjected to this life n we will understand their struggles....even if its nt this generation bt thnk abt ur children.......💢💔
You talking nonsense. As South Africans, we are a lot of things, cowards is not one of them. We would definitely take on any regime that might attempt to take away our rights. Zimbabweans ate busy playing the victim card running all over the world. Who will fix that sh*t show happening because of that Cartel in government?
We will blame them they destroying our economy trustworth, government plays 25% conteibution butninveators look at the market and our market is being destroyed by these people they are not here to only survivebut destroy the country credibility. Look how tjey destroyed our visa exhcnage agreements and programs because of them using fake visas posing as south africansz they have criminal records, they have increased human trafficking, no human being would invest. So wena instead of protecting south africa to not be like thwir countries and secure the future of your kids you want them to destroy our country while their countries are getting better and better and they will gladly leave when SA is dry
Abafowethu bayasokola yaz😢😢
I like when he says in Zimbabwe the law is strict, you cant even ask questions. The bill of rights in this country is too soft maan
Can you interview a Lesotho individual, if you can. This is the second Zim guy
Alright Mdara!
I know this is a story of the dark side of life of as a Zama-Zama ...But shoutout too my Town Randfontein bro
Shoutout to Kasi lama kasi Mohlakeng
Bo Ntate ha ba loka🤣
Wish you all the best brother Basotho ke mahlanya
Sesi cela bona abe Sotho sizwe bona bathin ?
Why do you wanna subject Sothos? 😏
@@SiyabongaNhlapo26 but they are the ones with the full story of zama zamas they created a "monopoly" in illegal mining.
Kanti nibuye ni donate kanti🤝
Waze wahumana umntana bantu!😂
Imagine
Mtshaza wakho
The mask is good without sound effects.....
i know main reef one side of rocla
Why not Zama Zama in your own country
U listen to respond,you dont listen to hear what they are saying.
Laba abagadayo who employs them? Where do they get guns? I would like to know the bosses of the Sothos emselves. This is organized crime.
Lomfo ufana kaze nale mask, phela it fits perfectly 😅😅
The way this mask is confusing me 😆🤣
Maar how do you know this holes will give U gold maar my authi
These is pure disrespect to our country, we have no borders, people can just walk in and out of the country - even worse athi he can just go uza bona phambili.
I understand their struggles in Zimbabwe and other countries but they have mines in their countries so why not zama zama there but come and disrespect south africa no this is wrong.
Watch the Gold Mafia, this thing is bigger than Zim or South Africa. There is a global pipeline and South Africa is a higher step up the ladder. All our minerals (legal and illicit go through South Africa).
@@BatsiraiMusukaon the legal front, isn't it because of Zim govt sanctions you have to access markets through SA?
On the illicit part, I think it's because SA is both politically stable and unable to enforce law. I know that may sound contradictory
@@siyabongamviko8872 l understand and agree to the second part to what you are saying. The first part is not as simply put however.
Are sanctions affecting us? Yes. Does it stop big multinational mines from operating? Absolutely not. By design minerals are extracted in Zimbabwe as ore and processed in SA (let me give the example of the biggest mining group in Zimbabwe, Zimplats… 87% of that is owned by Implats, a South African mining group). It is advantageous for them as they need not invest in a processing plant in Zimbabwe, they just take the platinum ore as is (including a number of other sub product rare minerals that part of the ore… these are undeclared by the way as the ore is treated as “just ore”…”no one knows how much gold or palladium or iridium etc is in any assignment of extracted ore” and this is legal. That’s just how it is). Zim and SA have always been joined at the hip since before both our independence (especially in the mining sector and this is not unique to Zim by the way).
Our governments found things that way and they just continued as the previous regimes had established things. That’s just the legal side. You can imagine what the illegal side looks like if you now see how the legal side looks like.
Now, it’s perfect timing that we are talking about this issue as right now the Government of Congo has filed a law suit against Apple for indirectly funding rebels in the extraction of Coltan from the Congo. This is a hard one to prove (but l understand there are ways to ascertain whether the allegations are true an to what extent), but the route is very murky between the ore being extracted going through rebels, to when it finally re-emerges on the legal market and is purchased by Apple (or any other multinational electronics manufacturer… Apple just happened to be the biggest and they went for the biggest example they could try aim for)
By the way, all this l just described is not exclusive to the mining sector. Similar is happening with Cocoa, Tobacco, Gold, Copper, Water (yes even water), Tomatoes (the tomatoes one is absolutely fascinating and has been well documented her on TH-cam by Al Jezeera, BBC and DW through the years)
@@siyabongamviko8872 l understand and agree to the second part to what you are saying. The first part is not as simply put however.
Are sanctions affecting us? Yes. Does it stop big multinational mines from operating? Absolutely not. By design minerals are extracted in Zimbabwe as ore and processed in SA (let me give the example of the biggest mining group in Zimbabwe, Zimplats… 87% of that is owned by Implats, a South African mining group). It is advantageous for them as they need not invest in a processing plant in Zimbabwe, they just take the platinum ore as is (including a number of other sub product rare minerals that part of the ore… these are undeclared by the way as the ore is treated as “just ore”…”no one knows how much gold or palladium or iridium etc is in any assignment of extracted ore” and this is legal. That’s just how it is). Zim and SA have always been joined at the hip since before both our independence (especially in the mining sector and this is not unique to Zim by the way).
Our governments found things that way and they just continued as the previous regimes had established things. That’s just the legal side. You can imagine what the illegal side looks like if you now see how the legal side looks like.
Now, it’s perfect timing that we are talking about this issue as right now the Government of Congo has filed a law suit against Apple for indirectly funding rebels in the extraction of Coltan from the Congo. This is a hard one to prove (but l understand there are ways to ascertain whether the allegations are true an to what extent), but the route is very murky between the ore being extracted going through rebels, to when it finally re-emerges on the legal market and is purchased by Apple (or any other multinational electronics manufacturer… Apple just happened to be the biggest and they went for the biggest example they could try aim for)
By the way, all this l just described is not exclusive to the mining sector. Similar is happening with Cocoa, Tobacco, Gold, Copper, Water (yes even water), Tomatoes (the tomatoes one is absolutely fascinating and has been well documented her on TH-cam by Al Jezeera, BBC and DW through the years)
@@mmanaremangale1209 reply to Siyabonga: l understand and agree to the second part to what you are saying. The first part is not as simply put however.
Are sanctions affecting us? Yes. Does it stop big multinational mines from operating? Absolutely not. By design minerals are extracted in Zimbabwe as ore and processed in SA (let me give the example of the biggest mining group in Zimbabwe, Zimplats… 87% of that is owned by Implats, a South African mining group). It is advantageous for them as they need not invest in a processing plant in Zimbabwe, they just take the platinum ore as is (including a number of other sub product rare minerals that part of the ore… these are undeclared by the way as the ore is treated as “just ore”…”no one knows how much gold or palladium or iridium etc is in any assignment of extracted ore” and this is legal. That’s just how it is). Zim and SA have always been joined at the hip since before both our independence (especially in the mining sector and this is not unique to Zim by the way).
Our governments found things that way and they just continued as the previous regimes had established things. That’s just the legal side. You can imagine what the illegal side looks like if you now see how the legal side looks like.
Now, it’s perfect timing that we are talking about this issue as right now the Government of Congo has filed a law suit against Apple for indirectly funding rebels in the extraction of Coltan from the Congo. This is a hard one to prove (but l understand there are ways to ascertain whether the allegations are true an to what extent), but the route is very murky between the ore being extracted going through rebels, to when it finally re-emerges on the legal market and is purchased by Apple (or any other multinational electronics manufacturer… Apple just happened to be the biggest and they went for the biggest example they could try aim for)
By the way, all this l just described is not exclusive to the mining sector. Similar is happening with Cocoa, Tobacco, Gold, Copper, Water (yes even water), Tomatoes (the tomatoes one is absolutely fascinating and has been well documented her on TH-cam by Al Jezeera, BBC and DW through the years)
😂😂😂😂😂😂 they will beat you well. You will be right.
l understand and agree to the second part to what you are saying. The first part is not as simply put however.
Are sanctions affecting us? Yes. Does it stop big multinational mines from operating? Absolutely not. By design minerals are extracted in Zimbabwe as ore and processed in SA (let me give the example of the biggest mining group in Zimbabwe, Zimplats… 87% of that is owned by Implats, a South African mining group). It is advantageous for them as they need not invest in a processing plant in Zimbabwe, they just take the platinum ore as is (including a number of other sub product rare minerals that part of the ore… these are undeclared by the way as the ore is treated as “just ore”…”no one knows how much gold or palladium or iridium etc is in any assignment of extracted ore” and this is legal. That’s just how it is). Zim and SA have always been joined at the hip since before both our independence (especially in the mining sector and this is not unique to Zim by the way).
Our governments found things that way and they just continued as the previous regimes had established things. That’s just the legal side. You can imagine what the illegal side looks like if you now see how the legal side looks like.
Now, it’s perfect timing that we are talking about this issue as right now the Government of Congo has filed a law suit against Apple for indirectly funding rebels in the extraction of Coltan from the Congo. This is a hard one to prove (but l understand there are ways to ascertain whether the allegations are true an to what extent), but the route is very murky between the ore being extracted going through rebels, to when it finally re-emerges on the legal market and is purchased by Apple (or any other multinational electronics manufacturer… Apple just happened to be the biggest and they went for the biggest example they could try aim for)
By the way, all this l just described is not exclusive to the mining sector. Similar is happening with Cocoa, Tobacco, Gold, Copper, Water (yes even water), Tomatoes (the tomatoes one is absolutely fascinating and has been well documented her on TH-cam by Al Jezeera, BBC and DW through the years)
He was not a real zama zama people used to stay more than six or a year or more.
Mmmm I am ashamed that ke mosotho😢, they are so wrong yhoo
HE
Tribalism
You know how you lost it? There are simple English words that I know a zama zama can't possibly know. I'm sorry but this one is staged
@murenamamafha uhm...
Bt zama zama is u and me aifundelwa lento
I dislike Zimbos😒
Sibulale wena nkulunkulu 😅
Ozondi inja yozayidle
@@malvinsibanda7506 voetsek msunu
@@mahlabaayithwale ndunu kanyoko
You dislike fellow human beings. It says a lot about you more than about them, whatever you call them
Zimbos, God what did we do to deserve this LOL