16 Star Example Run for Beginners (
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2017
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This run was done entirely using beginner strats.
As a beginner I'd recommend going for lakitu skip and bomb clip which this video doesn't do. I omitted those tricks to show that as a beginner you shouldn't reset over failing them. Also to show that movement is more important than going for tricks.
Any questions feel free to ask in the comments!
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*casually doesn't do lakitu skip or bomb clip and still gets a sub 18, beating my pb by over 2 minutes*
ikr wtf
i think a 18 is clint stevens pb or one of his older pbs i cant remember, and this dude getting an 18 without any major glitches 😳😳
lakitu skip and bomb clip both save around 17 sec
IKR
@AmazingJuniorBros clint has probably done like 20 16 star runs in his life so ofc his pb is easily beaten
I can literally do lots of this stuff fine when practicing, but the moment I try to do a run nothing seems to work anymore.
lol same
practice the overall run and not just segments cuz the same shit happens to me lol
welcome to speedrunning lol
That’s just how the cookie crumbles
It's whenever you have to do something official (like doing a run) that the pressure builds up and even if you compose yourself, your mind fucks with you. The best way to rid yourself of this shit is to do multiple runs, record them as well as that makes it "official" in your brain. Do this until you don't even know you're recording or running. Practice makes perfect.
After a long time, I can finally say I have beat this video's PB myself with a 17:41. It's nice to finally see it happen, considering I've used this video as a sort of starting point for my runs and kept abiding by its simple yet effective strats.
That's fantastic, congratulations!
@@BlueBobsCinema Thank you so much!
Never knew cheese had a second account, good god.
That's it, I'm gonna practice castle movement more often now.
Dang. I do all of these same strats and more, including bomb clip and Lakitu skip, yet my PB is only a 19:59 and I can’t seem to beat that. Just goes to show how much good movement and experience can help out a run. Thanks for this!
That's a pretty good PB dude. You're probably down to optimization or using advanced strats.
@@TheXBoy5 I'm guessing optimizations
ur not alone, i do the same and my pb is 20:10.
I was thinking the same thing, I don't do dark world reds but I do lakitu skip and bomb clip and I can't manage to get sub 21
@OctagonalSM64 you do reds for not doing the beast star the toad still a pretty fast star the reds save arond 6 to 8s depends of the cycle you make
the fact that this guy gets sub 18 minutes without using any major tricks or glitches goes to show just how much more important movement is
Yeah, I can do a lot of stuff, including the LBLJ at the beginning, but I can't get sub 20. I need to improve my movement
This is an amazing video. The run is comprised of baby/beginner strats, with quite a few time losses due to those and some mistakes here and there. I feel like all of this is within my limited capacity. Yet the run is sub 18.
This gives me as a beginner so much more hope in how much lower I can push my PB without having to resort to intermediate/advanced tricks.
The set of jumps at 16:44 is the bane of my existence
I have a slower more consistent mehod, right after the heart you long jump and will perfectly ledge grab the 2nd piece of wood where you can then double jump to the next and move on. It’s is definitely not as fast but is extremely consistent once you learn the long jump timing
yeah lol im more consistent at left side tjwk
getting onto that pole in BITS is so hard... thank you for this though
I KNOW RIGHT?
there is a glitch were if you are under the pole and hit the pole celling you will be warped up the pole
@@bloonsfamily2066 Don't try this if you're a beginner
@OctagonalSM64 OOps
@OctagonalSM64 For pole glitch?
Honestly this perfectly showcases why movement is more important then strats at a beginner level.
All the strats are easy, the movement is where he saves time.
Route like this is not too bad to execute tbh, couple days of practice and thats it.
Adding harder strats would only be saving a few seconds here and there, however your reset % will skyrocket
this is really good for me to see
ive been speedrunning this game for about a year on and off, and whenever I feel demotivated I always come back to this video to realise that with good movement and practice, there is always a lot of time save to be had, and its NOT because of the tricks I lack. This vid is really an inspiration, and I thank you : )
I'm glad to hear, my pleasure!
Bluebob just singlehandedly destroyed the kids who go for every pro strat and cant sub 20
I did this run and got 20:52. I'm honestly so hyped about it.
noice
Congrats man my best is a little over an hour I’m not to good yet but I’m improving
Mine is 44 minutes I suck ass
Ole we all begin somewhere, dont sweat it. I was stuck at over an hour for weeks.
@@heck6757 Yeah, I'm running this game since 4 weeks and now have a 30:35. But the last 3 weeks I got 0 pb's and it doesn't seem like I'm improving....
MizKif POGGERS
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I started running 3 days ago, I was considering if cannonless is worth learning because it will save a lot of time over the slide in CCM.I am sitting at 27 flat after 5-6 full attempts but from what I have leant I can get 23:XX by cleaning up mistakes alone. Great video
It took 6 months of grinding a few days a week, but I finally beat this with a 17:39. And yet I still have so much further to go. I used far more advanced strats than this run did and barely beat the time, which tells me I still have a lot of work to do on consistency and tightening up my movement.
Great vid
As soon as he finished Dark World I instinctively did a Michael Jackson “HOO!” What clean movement even with beginner strats.
Thanks BlueBup for uploading, a good Way to learn this :P
First Run I tried with this Route was a solid 38:06, that's a neat Time without any Practice xD
2 months later, have you improved under 30mins? :)
I once did speedrun of one my favorite games (Amnesia The Dark Descent) and did my personal best of 1h 56mins. but perhaps one day could cut it down to like 1h 20mins because know these days few methods (just damn when it seems to glitch whenever I try record it, luckily i got some other games i consider)
Honestly, I did try a couple of Times to beat it, but it's just so much Practice and Dedication.
Without being able to Stream to atleast let anyone who's interested stumble across what I'm doing, I think my Patience is a little too short then.
Time is also an Issue, if I had more if it, I would definitly try more, but you know.. Reallife is shit and Huge Chunks of Time are never really a Thing.
Thanks for asking though. Didn't think anyone would even see this Comment haha.I think trying your best though if you can and want to achieve something for the Games you like to play is a great Thing. I'm not a fan of Amnesia, but I can see that Dedication can get you somewhere :P
What do you mean by it glitches whenever you try to record it? Does it corrupt the File? Is there Framerate Issues, not really sure what you mean, but there's probably a Solution to it :o
I did give it a couple more shots whenever I have Time and I actually got a 26:43 today, kinda proud, but still not a good Time lol
Congrats! I'm still trying to get under 30. Got a 30:11 last night I was so disappointed
I'm almost at a 17:xx. My sob is 17:29 but putting it all together in a run is so hard! This run is motivational though!
Shows how much time good movement saves. I do the same route with Lakitu Skip and Bomb Clip to add yet I'm beating myself up for sub 19. Guess I need to keep practicing.
Update: My PB is now 17:51, never give up :3
Ayyyy Congrats !
this video was useful I'm going to use this strat but without the complete beginner parts
but thx :D
this video helped me a lot. just got a 17:49 thanks
gg bro
get back grinding bro get a sub 17 GL brother
@@beaver229 the controller I learned the game on broke last week and I've been losing motivation to get back on the grind but this helped a lot thanks for this. good luck on the runs
I have a 18:53 with the total beginner route, o dw reds and no logless, my sob is 17:08, my goal rn is mid 17, I know I’m capable of that, ive been in that pace before, after that I’ll do dw and logless for a 16, and after that ill go for lblj, doesn’t seem that bad right?
Lets goooo!!! finally beat this, it took some time but i did it
Congratulations!
My typical route:
1. Chain Chomp (no bomb clip)
2. Wild Blue
3. Whomp fight
4. Whomp tower
5. Owl cage
6. Blast away the wall (no cannonless yet)
7. Secret slide - under 21 seconds
8. Secret slide
-Bowser in the Dark World
9. 8 coin puzzle
10. Boil big bully
11. Red hot log rolling (no crazy wall kick)
12 & 13. Shining atop the pyramid/Big bird talons (using the Koopa shell)
14. Toad in the basement
15. Watch for rolling rocks
-MIPS clips
16. Bowser's submarine
-Bowser in the fire sea
-2 BLJs
-Bowser in the Sky
I've kinda optimized things for a sub-30. But I always mess up with the BLJs.
Currently at 25:29. New Route:
-Attempt (90% fail) Lakitu skip
1. Chain Chomp (no bomb clip)
2. Cannonless blast away the wall
3. Wild Blue
4. King Whomp
5. Whomp's tower
6. Owl cage (no owless)
7. Baby penguin rescue
8. Wall kicks will work
-Dark World
9. Klepto (no corkbox, shell)
10. Top of pyramid (no corkbox, shell)
11. Red coin puzzle
12. Big bully
13. Log rolling (no triple jump wall kick)
14. Toad's star
15. Rolling rocks
-MIPS
16. Bowser's sub
-Fire Sea
-BLJs (semi-decent)
-BitS
The way you handled Bowser, that aint no beginner strat LMAO
Do you manually record each split or does it do it for you?
Anyone learning 16 star note that this does skip some skips that are key in getting better time so after watching this go watch another video on some more skips for 16 star. ( I did read the desc)
a year late but the whole point of the video is to show you don’t need those skips to get a decent time
@@drusticc5667 Yeah I know, that's why I put that I read the description. You aren't wrong though, you can get good times without those skips.
This is way different from my runs, think I might try this, seems faster.
I normally do:
King Bob-Omb Battle
Koopa the Quick Race
Floating Isle
Chain Chomp Star
Whomp King
Tower
Wild Blue
Blast Away the Wall but with the cannon since I can't do cannon-less
The two stars in Peach's Secret Slide
Slip Sliding Away
No Red Coins in BITDW
Boil the Big Bully
Bully the Bullies
8 Red Coin Puzzle with 15 Pieces
Skip SSL
Watch for Rolling Rocks
Do the Mips clip through the doors
Bowser's Sub
Then do the run as normal
Usually I miss one and just get a star with Toad
What is your average time using this strat?
@@causticinferno9777 Around 40-45 minutes, most of that time is wasted trying to do the BLJ lol
16:21 that’s actually a really good idea, considering that almost every beginner who goes for that triple jump has a really slow setup that saves like no time at all.
That doesn't make sense. You don't need any setup for that. You just stop, turn, and triple jump. Any level of runner would save time with it unless they just didn't make the jump and died.
@@davide4607 I don’t mean like a literal setup, I meant they take to much time to get in position for the triple jump, some times after they go for it, they stop at the double jump and start over, as they would’ve fallen off if have went any further. It’s just not an ideal strat for beginners.
@@Sunflower_SM64 Ah yeah I can see that happening.
“for beginners”
Believe or not, it is the perfect balance of easier and faster route
He means the route he plays like a fucking mad man tho
@@Snepy64 he was talking about the way he played but he was just showing off the route
Idk man I’m a beginner and my splits are pretty identical to these ones besides after Fire Sea
Yep
Bljs just keep ruining every single run I do. Even though I can do the hard starts like owless and bomb clip I just cant get sub 21 because off the bljs !!!
I'm so frustrated😭
Hey bluebob, I got a question. On ukikipedia it shows for the 16 star route you collect the hmc toad as the 14th star, not 13th. Though I've always seen people collect it before going into hmc, is that a mistake or is it actually faster to wait? I know the difference would be minuscule, but I'm still curious
Edit: It was changed and now says to collect the toad star before entering hmc, that must be faster, as expected
it doesn't change the time as long as you collect it either 13th or 14th
From what I can tell, whatever piece of movement you're more comfortable with will probably save more time, whether it's grabbing it on the way in or in between stars
Bowser grabs
How much time loss do I have if I go for bully on LLL instead of the bird star on SSL
The difference between both stars being done well is around 3 seconds
Dang. My PB is 23:58 currently, and it's just hard for me to beat it.
BitS is also a really hard stage for me, takes me way longer than expected..
If any of you know what I can improve and how, here's a video to my run: th-cam.com/video/ViwJ6kDnwJo/w-d-xo.html
I would look into usamune if you are still running!
Hang-on, how is cannonless a beginner strat but bomb-clip isn't?
I find the latter to be much easier than the former...
Well, I've never learned cannonless so my 16 star route doesn't include that star at all...
I should probably learn it, but I'll worry about it when I can get sub-20, or when I'm able to consistently finish a run without dying...
I kind of agree that cannonless isn't completely free, but if you invest 30min - 1 hour you can get a pretty decent consitency which will build up very quickly. I'm more concerned about the movement in BITS, but all in all I agree that this is arguably a beginner friendly run.
You just gotta grab the right spot and then it's like following a blueprint, if you mess up you just plank push into the right spot, 100% consistency. Bomb clip though has a bit of precision involved, although not very hard
For me, bomb clip took way longer to learn but now that I know the timings and such for throwing/picking up the bomb I find it pretty easy and hit it way more consistently
@@Illuym yeah same
02:35
Nice video
I bopped you i got a 17:51
textureless is easier than the original in my opinion less things to grab im trying the pro strat one idk wat its called
How much time do you save by doing BiTDW reds?
If you do DW reds as clean as he did it in the video you'll probably save like 15 seconds over doing a 3rd star in HMC
PepeLaugh faster than mitchjones without owless or bomb clip
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@@Coolence_ mitchjones
@@Coolence_ mitchjones
@@AE-lf7mp Who
I pretty much do the same route, though I skip the Wall Kicks Star in CCM as I’m not consistent enough at the jump. I do the slide in the chimney instead.
I also do Boil the Big Bully in LLL over the bird star in SSL.
I’m also not that good either, but then again I only started casually running in late 2018, and I only started trying to seriously run on console a few weeks ago.
Hey man I think you are losing actual minutes of time there. I would suggest the wall kicks star, and 8 reds in LLL Because it's super fast. (I can get it in 40 secs or so. And bird star is annoying but once you get it once you will get it consistently. Tiny bit of practice and you can get these really easy
@@atabixx So I do the 8 reds in LLL, I basically used to do 3 stars in SSL instead of 2. Now I do the top of the pyramid star (pretty fast imo) instead of the bird star. My basement is basically 1 in SSL, 2 in LLL, 1 toad star, and 2 in HMC.
I still can't get the wall kick star, maybe once in ten tries I don't fall off the edge into the bottomless pit. But I can do cannonless on WF now!
@@protoman1365 what is is the second star you do in LLL. Unless you are doing logless then your losing a lot of time there too, and if you already know how to do Talon star in SSL why don't you do that instead along with the pyramid top.
Also I think you should watch a tutorial on wall kicks will work I promise you the star is super easy and you are probably doing something small wrong.
If you want help I could give you my discord.
@@protoman1365 Super late to this but for wall kicks can work, there are essentially 3 "floors" of the jump (like floors in a 3 story house). Theres the floor you start on, the one you probably bonk on from time to time when skipping with the big jump , and the basement floor where the star is, so to speak. If you instead jump to the middle story, face away from the ledge, and double jump to get down to the basement and dive, it is 100 times easier and isn't much slower. I've compared times with the Usamane practice rom and my best time for the big jump was 14 which I mess up a lot. I could consistently get 15 seconds with the easier strat.
If any of these wasn't clear, I have a few speedrun videos on my channel and I always use the easier strat.
This is supposed to be "simple strats" but I cannot for the life of me hit the wall kick in Wild Blue. Is there an alternative strat, or different star that's a good option?
Wild blue is one of the faster stars in the category so I'd recommend continuing to experiment with it. Biggest advice I could give is focusing on the camera setup so that you can do the sideflip with your up notch, hope this helps!
This makes me feel so bad at this game, since I do salt cless, dj owlless and pless but only has a 19 ☹️
I tried 1 and zero star runs but the lobby and basement blj are so hard as I was doing lobby i was like, wait, mips clip is a thing so i did a 16 star run
yeah 0 and 1 are absolutely not beginner runs lmao I started with 16 and then learned 70
How to do the mips skip without having the text box at the 30 star door ? Any tricks ?
backflip after entering
@@c4-dub717 thank you dude !
@@FS-cl3wo it's a backflip? I always just mash a and b and it usually works lol
Ive.tried backflip but its slow and i cant seem to get it done consistenly
If I keep crawling for a sec after putting down mips then I’ll usually skip the text box
wenn Kevin das hier sieht VI VON ZULUL
Started in november 23. Now january 24 my pb is 22:08. Hope I'll get sub 20 in a few weeks :)
Great work!
(Beginners) Bowser 1 be like
Do a nintendo switch 16 star speedrun tutorial
That is literally impossible
Bro how can you have this time, if you do sometimes little Things wrong
i hope if i do everything in this video without misshabs ill get a sub 17
im stuck on a 18 56 and have been for over 2 year's butt i just got back into it iv been practicing for the past 3 week
After two days of nonstop practice I managed to get 35:36 thank.
nice, on my 2nd day today i got 32:58 mins. It took my like 5 mins to blj and i died in bowser 3 twice. xD i think i can get a sub 25
DW reds but no lakitu skip or bomb clip???
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i have a question, why don't people do the bob omb battlefield star instead of one hard/longer star?
Hi, not sure which star you're referring to!
@@BlueBobsCinema like i'm sure the first star in bob omb battlefield where you use the bomb trick is faster than oe of the other stars. but in the world records they don't even care about it
Pro QBr so if I understand what you’re asking, and hopefully I know what I’m talking about, the bomb clip star is needed to open the Whomps Fortress star, but if you do Lobby BLJs to get into Dark World with 0 stars, then there are stars downstairs that you can do faster than the combined time of movements for BOB and CCM and their stars, as well as 2 stars of Whomps. Downstairs has quick stars and also decreases castle movement time that comes from the no LBLJ route
@@yogoc3432 well yes but i think there' s one star in the basement paintings that is actually slower then bob omb clip, at least i think so
Pro QBr yes there probably is, but there is a huge difference in the time it takes from going to BOB, from there to Whomps, from there to CCM, and from there to Dark World than if you don’t even go to CCM or BOB, but you don’t need any extra castle movement to get an extra stage that you’re already at
This is like advanced beginners run. There needs to be a run when movement is not as advanced. Nonetheless it just means for me I need to practice movement. But seeing this is discouraging because someone like me who hasn’t played in 14 years finds this intimidating especially when I’ve beat the game recently and still can’t do any of this movement. Otherwise great video. No harm to you with this response but just saying.
This video is partially intended to show the importance of movement over strats, it takes time for movement to develop. A lot of the runs where the movement isn't as advanced can be found on the leaderboards
Why didn't he use the bomb to get the first star?
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That was a mogul move
I've understood that beginners shouldn't go for red coins in Dark World?
It may not save time right away, but it's generally recommended to go for it because it is a great star for improving your movement as a beginner.
Funny, my lobby stars are faster, but its just the basement thats causing me so much trouble.
@Boshi The Yoshi I'm all good with SSL man, no worries
This an N64 controller?
An a press is an a press, you can't say it's only half
Excellent meme!
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Xein64 My pleasure
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You absolutely should reset over missing tricks because beginners don't have expert movement to make up.
Watching the intro repeatedly generally isn't a good use of time as a beginner
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Hey, man. I know this is a big ask, but could you skim the 18:56 vod on my channel and give me some general movement pointers? I started playing 2 weeks ago and even though I felt like I had a decent grip on movement this is blowing my mind lol
17:54 I can do mid-air bowser throws fine in practice, but when I try it in a real run, I just can’t do it.
man i cant get that fucking talon star strat down to save my life
his movement is too good, this no beginner example
r/whoosh
so wouldnt it be faster to skip reds in bowser 1 till more comfortable and just get mips star cause fuck 8 reds man lmaoooo
You need 15 before mips will spawn and 16th comes from DDD. Many beginner routes skip bowser reds and pick up an extra star in hmc
At 13:36, it looked like you failed pole glitch. But I think you did that on purpose.
pole skip is way to advanced for bingingers
@@RoseQuartz692 yeah, I think he was purposely trying to get normal cycle.
@@Tristan-pt4dt and this is just a video showing that movement are more important for a good beginner time than tricks
@@RoseQuartz692 I know.
HOW
Just spend your whole childhood on that game and you'll start to get it slowly but surely
The thing that i actually do almost expert tricks and my pb is 20:52 and that makes me pissed
man i cant even find a tutorial on how to move that quickly, like you instantly dived after talking to lakitu i cant find anything on that
If you’re moving at high speeds when Lakota interrupts you, u can carry on at the same speed when he’s done by just holding forward, then u just press B and dive
Lmao does not to chain chomp or lakitu skip
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The movement is harder than lakitu skip, canonless, clippy, etc. Honestly an hour of practice will get you doing those tricks reliably
@OctagonalSM64 boo hoo little man
I do this exact run and cant even get under 22 minutes on sum of best O.o
Compare the time it takes your to do each star with the video. Then compare your video vs this, it's a lot easier to see where you lose time.
how tf is cannonless a beginner strat but bomb clip and lakitu are not
Read description, also the cannonless setup is definitely a beginner strat.
Because cannonless is extremely easy and the others aren't?
Dude I can barely control the camera. HOW?
Practice, do it, over, over over again until it becomes good, learn how the camera moves learn how to make it move to make it easier when you have the time, its a long journey ut beautiful
16:43
ok for beginners your not gonna get this time here it’s all about movement he’s just showing the route the best you will probably get is 28 or a little lower
Woah my whomps is better than this and I pbd a 21:16
"Beginners" those movements you're doing are literally at almost the top level wtf do you mean
Beginner strats, movement is advanced, meant to show that strats aren't what gets you a good time.