@@BoshNRoll I was responding to ask why no Tourach while you were adding them. If you have 4 mana you do get to play a hymn to tourach at the same time you cast Tourach. Also shrieking affliction is effectively another copy of the rack that hits them for 3 if they have 1 card left, but you didn’t have a full play set of the rack anyway so maybe that was already considered.
@@YourPalJamieEllis I thought the same, but expressive iteration, which is arguably a better card advantage engine in better colors, is modern legal. Plus, moderns painful manabases make it a bit more of a chore to have double black in a multicolored deck.
@@BoshNRoll I stand corrected. Let me revise: Total number of videos with Pox decks: ~15 (and counting) Total number of videos including Bosh, Iron Golem: One time. In EDH. Over a year ago. And he was only in play for the final 45 seconds of an almost 2.5 hour long video. Let me know if you spot another other mistakes. ;-)
@@turgid4391 It's like the absolute minimum, non-zero amount of Bosh you can possibly have. A quantum of Bosh, if you will, mixed into a veritable outbreak of pox. I'm just saying there's a reason Bryant's channel isn't called The Epic Beatdown. Even Phil plays D&T from time to time. (Yes, this is tongue-in-cheek.)
13:23 I think the line here is to make the construct, get nihil spellbomb, drown the murktide and then exile their graveyard to make the DRC a 1/1 and take unholy heat offline. Unless I'm miscounting something, that should have kept you alive
having a 1 of Springleaf Drum is so essential for holding up mana with your summon sick construct. Highly suggest fitting 1 drum in for most Urza Saga packages. It has come up way too many times for me to count this past year.
Update #1 on the Cawblade/Painter gameplay dream: No update. One of my cats was being too much of a goblin to let me sleep. Board state remains the same with the Cawblade/Painter player having all four Squadron Hawks out and having just played out Painter + Grindstone. Though on thinking back on the initial dream I can say that I remember that the Cawblade/Painter player **did not** have the mana up to activate grindstone after getting both pieces into play and that Painter had been played picking White. Future updates to follow as dreams happen.
I haven't watched the videos yet so I don't know how kaito does. . but secret tech I used to run in my pox deck back in 2010 that was always baller is mindstorm crown.
Have you seen the new card monster manual? Its like elvish piper/quicksilver amulet but a green artifact. That card I was hoping was modern legal but its not! Its only legacy legal and commander. I was going to brew a sweet emrakul deck for modern. Modern is basically legacy now.
Ah yes, Izzet. Making every format so much fun! It's not like it's the best colour combo in Modern. Wait, what's that? It IS? Well it's not like it's good in Legacy, right? Oh. What about Pioneer? Oh it's good enough to have had EI banned? Well it wasn't good in Standard right? Facetiousness aside, I'm really sick of seeing Expressive Iteration, Murktide, and DRC in every game I watch. It's getting tiresome that Blue and Red are so pushed it's not even close for any other deck.
Other Saga ideas: Bag of Holding? Lets loot away nonplayables and maybe get Lili/Smallpox cards back. Probably too mana intensive What about a sideboard Sphere of Annihilation? You can tutor it with Saga to clear saga tokens, or cast it to wipe 1-2 drops. It also answers cheap walkers like Wrenn and Six (when cast, which isnt great as a 1-of) Black Staff of Waterdeep could be used to animate Racks or Bridge or Pithing Needles? That's probably too cute to be good.
Ok 51:48 you were saying “there’s no route to blue mana” but maybe you meant no route to blue mana while making a construct? Like I feel the safe line was float with saga, grab map, tap a factory to crack map for watery grave. Shock that I’m going to 1 (I think the only card that is bad against is searing blaze) and then you are holding up drown. But then I guess you are only attacking for 2 (or 3 if you don’t also hold up push). But you did have 2 drowns so that probably holds for 2 draw steps. Idk maybe it’s kinda close but I feel like it was safer to get the blue mana and deal less damage to hold up counterspells rather than just pray the burn deck doesn’t draw a burn spell. It’s close. The more I think about it, the less I’m sure
Bosh and ThrabenU drove me so hard to legacy that the my first thought was "why Wrench Mind instead of Hymn to Tourach?".
I'd much rather play Hymn. WOTC please
@@BoshNRoll I was responding to ask why no Tourach while you were adding them. If you have 4 mana you do get to play a hymn to tourach at the same time you cast Tourach.
Also shrieking affliction is effectively another copy of the rack that hits them for 3 if they have 1 card left, but you didn’t have a full play set of the rack anyway so maybe that was already considered.
WOTC GIVE US HYMN YOU COWARDS
Would Hymn be acceptable in Modern? I feel like it's not an auto-no.
@@YourPalJamieEllis I thought the same, but expressive iteration, which is arguably a better card advantage engine in better colors, is modern legal. Plus, moderns painful manabases make it a bit more of a chore to have double black in a multicolored deck.
PoxNRoll is back! Reminder:
Total number of videos including Bosh, Iron Golem: 0
Total number of videos with Pox decks: ~15 (and counting)
Excuse me, I have played Bosh in EDH on the channel :)
@@BoshNRoll I stand corrected. Let me revise:
Total number of videos with Pox decks: ~15 (and counting)
Total number of videos including Bosh, Iron Golem: One time. In EDH. Over a year ago. And he was only in play for the final 45 seconds of an almost 2.5 hour long video.
Let me know if you spot another other mistakes. ;-)
@@syntaxlost9239 hey man, a bosh is a bosh
@@turgid4391 It's like the absolute minimum, non-zero amount of Bosh you can possibly have. A quantum of Bosh, if you will, mixed into a veritable outbreak of pox.
I'm just saying there's a reason Bryant's channel isn't called The Epic Beatdown. Even Phil plays D&T from time to time.
(Yes, this is tongue-in-cheek.)
40:03 Brian learning Magic lore the hard way with how The Raven Man owns Liliana.
13:23 I think the line here is to make the construct, get nihil spellbomb, drown the murktide and then exile their graveyard to make the DRC a 1/1 and take unholy heat offline. Unless I'm miscounting something, that should have kept you alive
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40:58 Modo Premium confirmed. I always knew grim lavamancer looked too much like the all seeing eye. Brian confirmed magic illuminati.
Burn was BRUTAL!
having a 1 of Springleaf Drum is so essential for holding up mana with your summon sick construct. Highly suggest fitting 1 drum in for most Urza Saga packages. It has come up way too many times for me to count this past year.
That’s a good one
@@BoshNRoll The best part is that it search for Springleaf means fatal push is in revolt mode 🥳
44:42 Brian channelling his inner AVGN.
1:08:50 Dark Confidant? Mazemind Tome? Reckoner Bankbuster?
Update #1 on the Cawblade/Painter gameplay dream:
No update. One of my cats was being too much of a goblin to let me sleep. Board state remains the same with the Cawblade/Painter player having all four Squadron Hawks out and having just played out Painter + Grindstone.
Though on thinking back on the initial dream I can say that I remember that the Cawblade/Painter player **did not** have the mana up to activate grindstone after getting both pieces into play and that Painter had been played picking White.
Future updates to follow as dreams happen.
this is one of the sickest decks I have ever seen
putting this together in paper right now
I feel like there's better ways to build this, without the gameplan being that you hope you're against a goldfish.
Ah yes, my favorite type of deck. Im totally normal btw.
Legacy pox’s appeal is being able to generate those games where opponent has no lands, no creatures and no hand
The Raven Man will haunt your dreams.
That was messed up
Deck looked so good in paper but after a few games the blue splash felt way too clunky. Anyways, great poxin' as always!
Now that Liliana is in Pioneer, it is only a matter of time before someone submits a brew for that format too
I haven't watched the videos yet so I don't know how kaito does. . but secret tech I used to run in my pox deck back in 2010 that was always baller is mindstorm crown.
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Pox lets gooo!
that scam player was quite funny
44:43 me every time I play magic
Does this deck need Break the Ice? I think just from a flavor point of view, yes
Nothing like other's misery to brighten my day
@BoshNRoll I Feel like Founding the third path has a place in this archetype.
Pox pox pox!!!
41:00 That's just what somebody who had MODO premium would say.
Have you seen the new card monster manual? Its like elvish piper/quicksilver amulet but a green artifact. That card I was hoping was modern legal but its not! Its only legacy legal and commander. I was going to brew a sweet emrakul deck for modern. Modern is basically legacy now.
Wake up boys new copypasta dropped
What do you think is the best shell for smallpox in modern?
Flagstone of Trokair is the best way to break parity, so probably Orzhov
Ah yes, Izzet. Making every format so much fun! It's not like it's the best colour combo in Modern. Wait, what's that? It IS? Well it's not like it's good in Legacy, right? Oh. What about Pioneer? Oh it's good enough to have had EI banned? Well it wasn't good in Standard right?
Facetiousness aside, I'm really sick of seeing Expressive Iteration, Murktide, and DRC in every game I watch. It's getting tiresome that Blue and Red are so pushed it's not even close for any other deck.
52:43 ahhh boooo
Deck needs some more card draw. Perhaps Dark Confidant
these titles man
It's such a bummer Currency Converter isn't an option.
I feel like it'd be so filthy here, but alas, Commander Cards won't be happening in Modern.
Other Saga ideas:
Bag of Holding?
Lets loot away nonplayables and maybe get Lili/Smallpox cards back. Probably too mana intensive
What about a sideboard Sphere of Annihilation? You can tutor it with Saga to clear saga tokens, or cast it to wipe 1-2 drops. It also answers cheap walkers like Wrenn and Six (when cast, which isnt great as a 1-of)
Black Staff of Waterdeep could be used to animate Racks or Bridge or Pithing Needles? That's probably too cute to be good.
Hehe pox time hehe
Whispers of Emrakul is a hymm to tourach if you have delirium
I would go with Go For The Throat over Doom Blade in the side as it deals with Phyrexian Crusader.
I would worry about Inkmoth Nexus, Memnite, and Ornithopter out of Hammer before Crusader out of Infect.
@@BoshNRoll That's fair. One of the challenges (and frustrations) is trying to be prepared for everything. The truly impossible task.
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21:36 You’re still live to Urborg due to timestamps, but also you’re super far behind so whatever. 🤷
Timestamps don’t matter there. Urborg is dependent on Moon, Moon always wins.
Ok 51:48 you were saying “there’s no route to blue mana” but maybe you meant no route to blue mana while making a construct? Like I feel the safe line was float with saga, grab map, tap a factory to crack map for watery grave. Shock that I’m going to 1 (I think the only card that is bad against is searing blaze) and then you are holding up drown. But then I guess you are only attacking for 2 (or 3 if you don’t also hold up push). But you did have 2 drowns so that probably holds for 2 draw steps. Idk maybe it’s kinda close but I feel like it was safer to get the blue mana and deal less damage to hold up counterspells rather than just pray the burn deck doesn’t draw a burn spell. It’s close. The more I think about it, the less I’m sure
Guys I’m addicted to pox videos please help
Wow your luck this league was abysmal. Opponents had perfect draws so often.
pox
40:00 Maindeck hate 🥺🥺🥺
What is a scam deck? Looks like a mid range black red why scam?
There’s Grief+Undying Evil to have busted turn 1s. Plus Voidwalker + Discard can steal opp’s big things
Where's "Invoke despair"?! Cause I'd be all over that shit.
Hmmm
I want whispers of emerakul to be playable 😭