Bright Lights will be a set unlike any Flesh and Blood set before it. Will this be a good thing for LSS, or will it be a painful financial lesson for them?
I liked the 3/4 releases per year. With LSS increasing this to 4/5 per year I am a little bit overwhelmed. But, if they are going to make some of these releases single class specific decks, this might make it more manageable as other mains will not be forced to buy those sets. So for players this new increased set frequency won´t be too much. However, for collectors it will be more difficult. I hope LSS does not go down the MTG path, bombarding us with product every 20 days.
Personally I think it's a good thing. I don't want to "Have to" buy every set that comes out. With the current plan to release 4 to 5 sets a year that's alot. One of the biggest reasons why I just got sick of MTG was the constant barrage of set after set after set. With each set trying to be the set that you need to get cards from.
I agree that MTG is too much. I like the 4-5 sets a year pace. When a set doesn't interest you, though, you have a better chance of just 'taking a break' from FAB. When that happens, you could get pulled away by something new (Lorcana, Sorcery, Grand Archive, etc.).
LSS is an innovative publisher and they will continue to innovative. They were the first to use paper wrappers and they will be the first at many more things in this industry. Not every product is meant to please everyone and they so much said so. It is difficult to take your opinion seriously because we do know very little about the set. Perhaps it is best to actually let the set release, try it, and then make an opinion backed back with actual experience versus hot guesses. James White said that there will be some people who hate the set, but many who will enjoy it. So they very well know what they are doing. They are taking a risk, because if you are not taking risks you are not growing.
I reduced my set purchase to just single case for Bright Lights. If LSS is going to increase product release frequency, as a sealed box collector this will make me buy less of each individual set. I have 2 or 3 cases of each of the sets released so far: OUT, UPR, DYN, EVR 1st, TOA 1st, MON 1st, DTD and the first 3 unlimited sets. Bright Lights is the first set I reduced my order to just a single case. Plus I dislike the stempunk vibe. FAB got to me because of the fantasy feel: armours, crossbows, arcane magic, savage brutes, dexterous ninjas, paladin like guardians.
yo, these point may be concerning, but at this level im sure lss has thought about that too for sure. What i think is just soo great, that more casual peops who, like me, maybe before even really trying the game really hung soo long at deciding which deck, hero, playstyle is the suiting one. To choose Mech as the main is just smart imo, it has always been a reliable class and always a treat so if you wanna start afterwards cause youre warmed up on mech, its just really possible to do that. Also, just look at how the game is expanding by that. Youre playing freakin Mechanoid Robo suits and weapons like in late matrix or somethin... HOW FREAKN COOL IS THAT?? Its a great opportunity for every LGS imo to get new peops in the game and everybody is starting with the same mechanics, like in yugioh sets back in the day or maybe even still. love that. So yeah com on lgss, host some fun and cool events and lets just enjoy a completely different world of fab. Lorewise as gameplaywise
Yeah, I like to jump around to a lot of different classes. Mech has always been a solid (and not too expensive) option to play. I think this will be great for casual players. If this came out along with or between main sets, it would be incredible (chef's kiss). As THE set for the next 3 months, I wonder how the hard-core FAB players will receive it. I don't know LSS's financials look, but is it ok if hard-core FAB players skip this set? Like I said, I think it will be awesome if we can get to a future where we can choose a class and grab 3 packs to play some matches. I'm in! I just wonder what it will be like until we reach that point. Seasons with a supplemental set are already a bit dull (at least for me). I am ready to try out some Crack, Shuffle, and Play games. I have my fingers crossed that this turns out to be a successful experiment for LSS so they will do this again.
@@NearlySaneGames awesome yeah! Id love to see the FaB core get some fun in between with this. I hear often that many dont not reeeally like draft so far anyway and the core is from my view more grindy lets be the best, play the best deck players. And thats awesome, love that and to watch them playing crazy games in the tournaments for sure!! But yoo, theres still soo much to be explored and what the Game NEEDs most imo is to be casually available more. Get some noobs in and give them a chance in this highest if highest level play game that it is so far. Most do not dare to enter id guess hearing or having experienced that by themself. FaB to be even more financially successful needs to get a larger playerbase and all around the world. Theyre doing over the too good with that from what i hear but still having something that evens the field like a one class set is a really interesting way to enable that. Mech is just fun and also building a boardstate like in most tcgs can be done here with items. So yooo, to all the new inc competative players - tunics gonna be available soon and lets see what else. Also you have maaaany heros to be still explored. Would love to see a micheal H try arakni in cc just cause hes not really meta at all but to see what HE can do with the hero. Seasoned players have all the things still havent they? And if BL gets boring to draft, get yourself one of the last 2.0 sets at your lgs to play, theyre all super available. and then at tournaments since this set seems to be small(er) from possibilities im just curious how theyre doing with that. 😎 Cheer up guys, lss is always with you dont you dare think something else xpp
LSS is still supposed to be working on their Player Vs Environment set for release sometime next year. If that set is good (which I expect it will be), it will be a great place to play all of those fun heroes/builds that are not good enough to play against the S+ tier competitive decks.
It will be interesting. I think investors will still show up. I feel like FAB players will have some initial interest, but leave it quickly if they are not a Mech main.
agreed unless it's just crazy fun with replayability and the chase cards are ridiculous. Very well could be a Marvel Tunic or other amazing Marvel EVO suits to chase.@@NearlySaneGames
its a good thing they are doing this to be honest. It lowers wallet fatigue, less product to be made good for investors and those that like to buy it for trade fodder, don't like it don't buy it no problem, fixes issues later when they introduce new classes. Need to look at the larger picture not just it doesn't suit me mentality
that's not how businesses work. if each set is made where it "lowers wallet fatigue", the company will sooner go out of business than become a mainstay tcg. the year on year growth has to be strong for the company to attract move investors or for the business to expand and become bigger. if each set caters to a subsection of their player base that actually plays the hero, their sales will always be stagnant, basically they're taking their pie, but only cutting a small section off to eat rather than eat the whole pie, saving the rest for 6 months down the road just to cut off another section
@@merrilllee4878 no it won't as there are plenty of people out there who will buy it, I also do not believe they will do this with every set and this will be utilized to bring up classes that have been without support for a long period of time and also the introduction of new classes. Wallet fatigue for players on a budget is the people I am talking about by the way as this is only a concern for people on lower incomes or those who have minimum budget to spend on a game, not the people who can just get what they want.
Although I'm not a mechanologist player, I'm hoping it will give a great drafting experience, with a lot more flexibility than past sets. Previously, it was incredibly hard to pivot from an archetype if it dried up and you could end up with a poor deck. All the cards being mechanologist means that they will all be playable. I look forward to seeing how it plays.
The class pivot became harder when they switched to 2 token slots. You saw less cards before you had to commit to your class. I'm guessing each character will have cards they want to have to support their deck, but any pool of cards should be playable. It should be a nice entry point for anyone that wants to try drafting. It should be cool.
Before outsiders Uprising was the only draft set for almost a year. Everyone was burned out on it which is sort of fitting thematically😅 (draconic, burning...) I don't forsee Bright lights being the draft set longer than 3-6 months as LSS is shifting towards more sets a year. If plans go correct we'll see more draft sets that either follow this same path or follow the original paths of OUT and before. There'll still be a supp set or two. On top of that we may see changes to the structure as a whole. If you look at past sets they always support one maybe 2 playstyles. BL supports 3 for one class. As opposed to old sets that just showed a new playstyle then either stopped supporting it or abolished an older playstyle. This is something many players want to see more. Not just "My crush Bravo is stronger now" but instead "now I have new playlines for Bravo, shield Bravo go! Or Hammer Bravo smash" etc. Having a set that shows it is possible to not only support a class that's been without support for a long time but also implementing multiple playstyles is new and exciting for the game. Or so the hope is. As for Dash, she has a different title so hopefully she's different. I'd be upset if she's the same Dash. Not too upset but a little upset.
I expect that we will have 3 playstyles that are interesting in a limited environment. I don't have high hopes for the different styles to be viable for constructed. We saw this in Tales with the Elemental heroes. Ice Lexi is fine, but the FAB community is a min/maxy, competitive group. I have no doubt the different playstyles will be fun to play. Riptide is fun to play with an interesting mechanic. He's less fun to play into any meta deck. I really don't want another supplemental set after Bright Lights.
You forgot warmonger from DTD, but other than that you're right. I'm a wizard player and since uprising I don't see any new mechanisms to play with. The cards that came in DYN were just upgrades from what we had. My Kano deck is the same for a year now lol I hoped that DTD would've something for everyone, but no. Even the classes that promised to buff aren't exactly winning events left and right
Biggest upside to BL is getting new players to sit down. I picked up FaB this year when WotC went scorched earth on players’ wallets. Unfortunately, FaB being in a lull means that I have a lot of trouble finding play groups in my area, but if BL is new player friendly then we could see a turn around in that. Crack, shuffle, play seems like a great way to get into the game and teach someone the basics similar to blitz decks. I fully acknowledge the down side of BL being the potential loss of established players, however. LSS seems to have made a mistake putting DtD and BL next to each other. I enjoy the new Prism, so DtD had a lot of stuff that I needed for that deck, but I imagine there’s a lot of players zoning out right now with two sets in a row that don’t support their play styles. I wonder how it would go over if LSS switched to running 5-6 sets a year. 3 big, draftable sets that support a lot of heroes, and then 2-3 smaller sets that set out to balance out lagging heroes. That would give 3 must have products a year with 2-3 for players to optionally engage with.
I do not yet, but there are same great videos out there. Check out Tolarian Community College, DMArmada or Red Zone Rogue. They all have good tutorials.
I am holding my judgement until they announce the rest of the set and more stuff in the expansion slot. On the surface I agree that the mech only set doesn't catch my attention, but I think Lss has a trick up their sleeve or two that they havent revealed yet, but who knows your guess is as good as mine
I feel like the Expansion Slot was the trick up their sleeve for this set. Maybe they have something else. I expect that the Mech Marvels will look pretty incredible, though.
@@NearlySaneGames yeah all we know at this point is tunic, but I am guessing it will be fully loaded but we shall see. I’m waiting to cast judgment till I know everything
@@NearlySaneGames they gotta chill if they dont like it xpp can try some new hero once in a while and not only grind for win and meta and counter meta and these heros are bad and these are good , and stuff. Theyre all great even though theyre not the next living legend or meta peak hero x)
As a Ranger player that doesn’t play Lexi, at the release of Outsiders there was some interesting tools but overall kinda disappointing not seeing “enough” due to Lexi not receiving any actual balance. DtD was very disappointing, though I do like the new heroes. It’s brought in a lot of thought about how under baked Riptide is. As Vynsett is already viable in CC and Blitz and Riptide has taken heavy hits in CC and Blitz 😢 BL is more DtD, while I do love draft I get the feeling that it’s gonna be worse overall than OTS cause of all the overlap. Really hope we get an EXTENDED supplement set afterwards that has 800+ cards, cause I have been waiting for ages on Assassin and Ranger for hero specific cards.
the way you describe things is very narrow-minded and hopefully not wide-spread :D "if you don't play those 8+ heroes LSS printed new cards for - you have no motivation to get the product" - this is what you are saying and it's just stupid, just play all/several classes and stop complaining about a vision you have, it's not you who is making the game.... stop comparing the game to your vision p.s. i just disliked the video - you get another chance, make it count (;
I do play all of the classes and I will be buying some of this product. I also know people that only play one or two classes that will not be buying this product. I'm just pointing out that LSS is taking a risk. I personally hope the risk pays off for them because I like the idea and the benefits to the casual community.
I liked the 3/4 releases per year. With LSS increasing this to 4/5 per year I am a little bit overwhelmed. But, if they are going to make some of these releases single class specific decks, this might make it more manageable as other mains will not be forced to buy those sets. So for players this new increased set frequency won´t be too much. However, for collectors it will be more difficult. I hope LSS does not go down the MTG path, bombarding us with product every 20 days.
Personally I think it's a good thing. I don't want to "Have to" buy every set that comes out. With the current plan to release 4 to 5 sets a year that's alot.
One of the biggest reasons why I just got sick of MTG was the constant barrage of set after set after set. With each set trying to be the set that you need to get cards from.
I agree that MTG is too much. I like the 4-5 sets a year pace. When a set doesn't interest you, though, you have a better chance of just 'taking a break' from FAB. When that happens, you could get pulled away by something new (Lorcana, Sorcery, Grand Archive, etc.).
LSS is an innovative publisher and they will continue to innovative. They were the first to use paper wrappers and they will be the first at many more things in this industry. Not every product is meant to please everyone and they so much said so. It is difficult to take your opinion seriously because we do know very little about the set. Perhaps it is best to actually let the set release, try it, and then make an opinion backed back with actual experience versus hot guesses.
James White said that there will be some people who hate the set, but many who will enjoy it. So they very well know what they are doing. They are taking a risk, because if you are not taking risks you are not growing.
I reduced my set purchase to just single case for Bright Lights. If LSS is going to increase product release frequency, as a sealed box collector this will make me buy less of each individual set. I have 2 or 3 cases of each of the sets released so far: OUT, UPR, DYN, EVR 1st, TOA 1st, MON 1st, DTD and the first 3 unlimited sets. Bright Lights is the first set I reduced my order to just a single case. Plus I dislike the stempunk vibe. FAB got to me because of the fantasy feel: armours, crossbows, arcane magic, savage brutes, dexterous ninjas, paladin like guardians.
Good side bordering optional L Generics would help sell drafting this and getting a few boxes
yo, these point may be concerning, but at this level im sure lss has thought about that too for sure.
What i think is just soo great, that more casual peops who, like me, maybe before even really trying the game really hung soo long at deciding which deck, hero, playstyle is the suiting one. To choose Mech as the main is just smart imo, it has always been a reliable class and always a treat so if you wanna start afterwards cause youre warmed up on mech, its just really possible to do that.
Also, just look at how the game is expanding by that.
Youre playing freakin Mechanoid Robo suits and weapons like in late matrix or somethin... HOW FREAKN COOL IS THAT??
Its a great opportunity for every LGS imo to get new peops in the game and everybody is starting with the same mechanics, like in yugioh sets back in the day or maybe even still. love that.
So yeah com on lgss, host some fun and cool events and lets just enjoy a completely different world of fab. Lorewise as gameplaywise
Yeah, I like to jump around to a lot of different classes. Mech has always been a solid (and not too expensive) option to play. I think this will be great for casual players. If this came out along with or between main sets, it would be incredible (chef's kiss). As THE set for the next 3 months, I wonder how the hard-core FAB players will receive it. I don't know LSS's financials look, but is it ok if hard-core FAB players skip this set?
Like I said, I think it will be awesome if we can get to a future where we can choose a class and grab 3 packs to play some matches. I'm in! I just wonder what it will be like until we reach that point. Seasons with a supplemental set are already a bit dull (at least for me).
I am ready to try out some Crack, Shuffle, and Play games. I have my fingers crossed that this turns out to be a successful experiment for LSS so they will do this again.
@@NearlySaneGames awesome yeah! Id love to see the FaB core get some fun in between with this. I hear often that many dont not reeeally like draft so far anyway and the core is from my view more grindy lets be the best, play the best deck players. And thats awesome, love that and to watch them playing crazy games in the tournaments for sure!! But yoo, theres still soo much to be explored and what the Game NEEDs most imo is to be casually available more. Get some noobs in and give them a chance in this highest if highest level play game that it is so far. Most do not dare to enter id guess hearing or having experienced that by themself. FaB to be even more financially successful needs to get a larger playerbase and all around the world. Theyre doing over the too good with that from what i hear but still having something that evens the field like a one class set is a really interesting way to enable that. Mech is just fun and also building a boardstate like in most tcgs can be done here with items. So yooo, to all the new inc competative players - tunics gonna be available soon and lets see what else. Also you have maaaany heros to be still explored.
Would love to see a micheal H try arakni in cc just cause hes not really meta at all but to see what HE can do with the hero. Seasoned players have all the things still havent they?
And if BL gets boring to draft, get yourself one of the last 2.0 sets at your lgs to play, theyre all super available. and then at tournaments since this set seems to be small(er) from possibilities im just curious how theyre doing with that. 😎
Cheer up guys, lss is always with you dont you dare think something else xpp
LSS is still supposed to be working on their Player Vs Environment set for release sometime next year. If that set is good (which I expect it will be), it will be a great place to play all of those fun heroes/builds that are not good enough to play against the S+ tier competitive decks.
Yeah can't wait to see how this set rolls out and it's reception from the community.
It will be interesting. I think investors will still show up. I feel like FAB players will have some initial interest, but leave it quickly if they are not a Mech main.
agreed unless it's just crazy fun with replayability and the chase cards are ridiculous. Very well could be a Marvel Tunic or other amazing Marvel EVO suits to chase.@@NearlySaneGames
C'mon, you know the Marvel Mech stuff is going to be some sexy shinys that you are going to want.
Yep good points
its a good thing they are doing this to be honest. It lowers wallet fatigue, less product to be made good for investors and those that like to buy it for trade fodder, don't like it don't buy it no problem, fixes issues later when they introduce new classes. Need to look at the larger picture not just it doesn't suit me mentality
that's not how businesses work. if each set is made where it "lowers wallet fatigue", the company will sooner go out of business than become a mainstay tcg. the year on year growth has to be strong for the company to attract move investors or for the business to expand and become bigger. if each set caters to a subsection of their player base that actually plays the hero, their sales will always be stagnant, basically they're taking their pie, but only cutting a small section off to eat rather than eat the whole pie, saving the rest for 6 months down the road just to cut off another section
@@merrilllee4878 no it won't as there are plenty of people out there who will buy it, I also do not believe they will do this with every set and this will be utilized to bring up classes that have been without support for a long period of time and also the introduction of new classes. Wallet fatigue for players on a budget is the people I am talking about by the way as this is only a concern for people on lower incomes or those who have minimum budget to spend on a game, not the people who can just get what they want.
Although I'm not a mechanologist player, I'm hoping it will give a great drafting experience, with a lot more flexibility than past sets. Previously, it was incredibly hard to pivot from an archetype if it dried up and you could end up with a poor deck. All the cards being mechanologist means that they will all be playable. I look forward to seeing how it plays.
The class pivot became harder when they switched to 2 token slots. You saw less cards before you had to commit to your class.
I'm guessing each character will have cards they want to have to support their deck, but any pool of cards should be playable. It should be a nice entry point for anyone that wants to try drafting. It should be cool.
Before outsiders Uprising was the only draft set for almost a year. Everyone was burned out on it which is sort of fitting thematically😅 (draconic, burning...) I don't forsee Bright lights being the draft set longer than 3-6 months as LSS is shifting towards more sets a year. If plans go correct we'll see more draft sets that either follow this same path or follow the original paths of OUT and before. There'll still be a supp set or two.
On top of that we may see changes to the structure as a whole. If you look at past sets they always support one maybe 2 playstyles. BL supports 3 for one class. As opposed to old sets that just showed a new playstyle then either stopped supporting it or abolished an older playstyle. This is something many players want to see more. Not just "My crush Bravo is stronger now" but instead "now I have new playlines for Bravo, shield Bravo go! Or Hammer Bravo smash" etc.
Having a set that shows it is possible to not only support a class that's been without support for a long time but also implementing multiple playstyles is new and exciting for the game. Or so the hope is.
As for Dash, she has a different title so hopefully she's different. I'd be upset if she's the same Dash. Not too upset but a little upset.
I expect that we will have 3 playstyles that are interesting in a limited environment. I don't have high hopes for the different styles to be viable for constructed. We saw this in Tales with the Elemental heroes. Ice Lexi is fine, but the FAB community is a min/maxy, competitive group.
I have no doubt the different playstyles will be fun to play. Riptide is fun to play with an interesting mechanic. He's less fun to play into any meta deck.
I really don't want another supplemental set after Bright Lights.
Well In the lore nul rune equipment is made in metrics so some of the legendarys are probably going to be a L version of nulerune something? Maybe
You forgot warmonger from DTD, but other than that you're right. I'm a wizard player and since uprising I don't see any new mechanisms to play with. The cards that came in DYN were just upgrades from what we had. My Kano deck is the same for a year now lol I hoped that DTD would've something for everyone, but no. Even the classes that promised to buff aren't exactly winning events left and right
Biggest upside to BL is getting new players to sit down. I picked up FaB this year when WotC went scorched earth on players’ wallets. Unfortunately, FaB being in a lull means that I have a lot of trouble finding play groups in my area, but if BL is new player friendly then we could see a turn around in that. Crack, shuffle, play seems like a great way to get into the game and teach someone the basics similar to blitz decks. I fully acknowledge the down side of BL being the potential loss of established players, however. LSS seems to have made a mistake putting DtD and BL next to each other. I enjoy the new Prism, so DtD had a lot of stuff that I needed for that deck, but I imagine there’s a lot of players zoning out right now with two sets in a row that don’t support their play styles. I wonder how it would go over if LSS switched to running 5-6 sets a year. 3 big, draftable sets that support a lot of heroes, and then 2-3 smaller sets that set out to balance out lagging heroes. That would give 3 must have products a year with 2-3 for players to optionally engage with.
Do you have a video that teaches how to play?
I do not yet, but there are same great videos out there. Check out Tolarian Community College, DMArmada or Red Zone Rogue. They all have good tutorials.
I am holding my judgement until they announce the rest of the set and more stuff in the expansion slot. On the surface I agree that the mech only set doesn't catch my attention, but I think Lss has a trick up their sleeve or two that they havent revealed yet, but who knows your guess is as good as mine
I feel like the Expansion Slot was the trick up their sleeve for this set. Maybe they have something else. I expect that the Mech Marvels will look pretty incredible, though.
@@NearlySaneGames yeah all we know at this point is tunic, but I am guessing it will be fully loaded but we shall see. I’m waiting to cast judgment till I know everything
i see bigger positive potential, especially to casuals or new players - but im listening :)
I think it is great for casual and new players. I like the idea a lot. I just wonder how FAB regulars will treat it.
@@NearlySaneGames they gotta chill if they dont like it xpp can try some new hero once in a while and not only grind for win and meta and counter meta and these heros are bad and these are good , and stuff. Theyre all great even though theyre not the next living legend or meta peak hero x)
The only thing what i will is my nicola tesla Hero😅
Robo-Tesla!
As a Ranger player that doesn’t play Lexi, at the release of Outsiders there was some interesting tools but overall kinda disappointing not seeing “enough” due to Lexi not receiving any actual balance.
DtD was very disappointing, though I do like the new heroes. It’s brought in a lot of thought about how under baked Riptide is.
As Vynsett is already viable in CC and Blitz and Riptide has taken heavy hits in CC and Blitz 😢
BL is more DtD, while I do love draft I get the feeling that it’s gonna be worse overall than OTS cause of all the overlap.
Really hope we get an EXTENDED supplement set afterwards that has 800+ cards, cause I have been waiting for ages on Assassin and Ranger for hero specific cards.
This will be the first set I pass on .I have no interest in mech.never liked the class at all
the way you describe things is very narrow-minded and hopefully not wide-spread :D
"if you don't play those 8+ heroes LSS printed new cards for - you have no motivation to get the product" - this is what you are saying and it's just stupid, just play all/several classes and stop complaining about a vision you have, it's not you who is making the game.... stop comparing the game to your vision
p.s. i just disliked the video - you get another chance, make it count (;
I do play all of the classes and I will be buying some of this product. I also know people that only play one or two classes that will not be buying this product.
I'm just pointing out that LSS is taking a risk. I personally hope the risk pays off for them because I like the idea and the benefits to the casual community.