Windscale - The Nuclear Laundry - (Sellafield)

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  • @truesamuraiHisashi
    @truesamuraiHisashi ปีที่แล้ว +4

    An important fact we should keep in mind is that Plutonium's radioactivity half-life is 24000 years. At least this radionuclide is still there in a big amount. The only difference between back then and now is whether people talk about it or not. There are dozens of different radionuclides that accumulate in different parts of the human body according to their chemical properties. It is so sad that people in the 21st century do not talk about these issues.

  • @andrewcullum8437
    @andrewcullum8437 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Limits are way out too...20lbs of dust?? That's crazy!! You just need to ingest 1 particle of plutonium and it's extremely serious.

  • @ianmorris7485
    @ianmorris7485 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bearing in mind that the documentary was produced in 1983, only 26 years after the October, 1957 fire at Windscale, it is somewhat surprising that they did not do more to highlight the circumstances in which Windscale was built. Those circumstances were such that a culture of lack of adequate safety and lack of adequate testing to verify safety standards and procedures were prevalent in order to meet the political demand to produce plutonium as soon as possible. Given that culture existed from day one, how much of that culture continued to exist 26 years later??

  • @jackking5567
    @jackking5567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was lucky enough to visit Sellafield and its visitor center. I'm a person who isn't stupid and isn't easily swayed with responses. You could say I wanted to see it for myself and wanted to ask unanswered questions. The visit allowed me to.
    The visitor center was all shiny lights and the public face of the whole propaganda machine. The bus tour very different. Once onto the bus we had all electric and photography equipment taken off us by armed police - literally waving machine guns beneath our noses. They had things to hide, things that went beyond what lots of people knew - how the nuclear site worked..
    Our bus drove for quite some distance. Aside from huge spaces with no buildings, you'd see a random, slightly bent steam pipe poking from the ground and leaking steam. It would carry a sign which showed a reference number. In fact everything on site carried this reference number system. I saw rickety corrugated iron sheds placed into random spaces (numbered) and yet somehow connected to the site and yet not placed anywhere between buildings. The leaking steam pipe was the same - not anywhere near anything and definitely not between either. For those alone I can guarantee that Sellafield site has far more hidden away beneath the ground in areas that are little known about.
    The larger buildings told a story. It was explained that some would receive goods by rail and sure enough rail tracks led to large closed doors. Transfer sites you could say. Those buildings linked to other ones and and those to even more. At the time of my visit they were extending operations into certain types of work. Re-processing was one. It was explained that they were accepting spent waste from other places and cleaning and taking useful products. It as explained that waste was gradually reduced in size until all products they could remove had been dealt with. I asked a blinding question - more from curiosity than concern. I asked what they did with the sludges and slurries that remained. The answer was eye opening: "We don't know yet". I asked further - given where it came from is it toxic. The reply: "yes very". She went on: "The process concentrates not just the size of it but doing so means it becomes stronger". She then pointed to a small high level link between buildings and said "That's the last path of the process". She was attempting to push a feeling of it being a small link and therefore insignificant amounts of waste remained. I pipped up - so that massive steel building at the end, it stores it. She began seeing my point. But it's massive. Please tell me that isn't full of toxic sludge that you're storing because you can't use it? That's the point where my questions were ignored. Other people on the bus were by now very concerned.
    The bus trip was the key to understanding fully why Sellafield is a huge toxic lie.
    The visitor center didn't last long. They can blame what they like for it but all I saw was a propaganda machine hell bent on putting the public at risk to promote a clean and nice place. It didn't work.
    Just to add: I'm one of those who remembers the cheap electricity era. I'm one of those who had this idea that nuclear is safe and great. I remember well the hassles from the huge fire in the pile. Sellafield - the place they renamed to try to bury a toxic legacy (from Windscale).

    • @Daisy-e5q6w
      @Daisy-e5q6w 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unbelievable, scary... Thanks for sharing!

    • @thetruth7633
      @thetruth7633 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, sounds like a script from a movie

    • @rammen4
      @rammen4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds like you made this all up to be honest haha. I've visited the site multiple times and seen none of this.

    • @richardkell4888
      @richardkell4888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thankyou so much for sharing this.

  • @garethjohnstone8662
    @garethjohnstone8662 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "we'll just build it in the north....." UK government.

  • @gb5uq
    @gb5uq 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Bottom line, they simply don't care. When money is god life is cheap.

  • @PseudoEmpathy
    @PseudoEmpathy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holy. Shit. That place is virtually glowing.

  • @epilobia1
    @epilobia1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    where plutonium lodges in the bone was not known at the time of making this film , according to BNFL . It was admitted in 1984 by BNFL , at the Sizewell B inquiry , that they were 'caught off guard'. They did lie about the amount of uranium they had discharged though . BNFL could give no assurance tp Peter Wilkinson because it was not them making the decisions . It was the government reacting to cost considerations that blocked any action being taken over the discharges .

  • @antonclark3420
    @antonclark3420 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The arrogance of the guy being interviewed by Dimbleby is breathtaking!

  • @zeberdee1972
    @zeberdee1972 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm no radioactive expert but if you watch the two old blokes that are defending BNFL , their body language says more than what they say . And I would say they are either not telling the truth or don't believe what they are saying .

    • @cheryldee7629
      @cheryldee7629 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i said the same when watching it

    • @MrWeedWacky
      @MrWeedWacky 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Watch an episode or two of "Lie to Me!" and you will realize they are certain they are full of shit and ashamed they are telling the lies they are telling.

    • @stopgotdamndeletingmycomme8642
      @stopgotdamndeletingmycomme8642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @essex2zz
    @essex2zz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is a great video it shows that the problem is clearly in the way you absorb the man made radioactive particles, it appears much worse to inhale or ingest particles of plutonium for example because the particles once inside the body get attracted to muscle or bone mass. Once stuck to bone or tissue the charged particle gives off energy for way past any humans lifetime, damaging any dna in any cell in its area, so the more hot particles you gather over time the more cell damage you receive, and the more cell damage you receive the more chance of getting illness from Cancer to Tumor's. So really is there a safe dose?
    Also this is how the government allows it they use radiation guidelines from the 60's which treat radiation dose amounts on people the same as natural sources which you don't inhale or ingest like Ultra Violet light from the sun, which also gives off gamma radiation which you can detect with a Geiger counter. You've probably heard the stories of people saying "Oh don't worry you get more radiation taking a long haul flight" Well this is a misrepresentation because yes you do take a lot of gamma rays passing through your body on a long haul flight but there energy source is not stuck inside your body like man made stuff so actually you would be receiving more energy over time from man made particles gathering inside your body. So realistically no amount of man made radiation is safe for humans and that's the flaw with using Geiger counters as a dose counter for humans as it cant tell you what is giving off the beta or gamma rays the unit is detecting. (But obviously you can take an educated guess that if your holding a Geiger counter to a pipe pumping out radioactive waste like in the video and the readings go way past what it should be then its detecting man made decaying isotopes.)
    Tl:Dr This video is still relevant and Nuclear is bad mmmmkay.

  • @mekanopsis1
    @mekanopsis1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In fact levels of radiation above background levels occur naturally elsewhere in the world and some have been associated with improvements of health (Hormesis)
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hormesis#Studies_of_low_level_radiation

    • @3replybiz
      @3replybiz 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      ffffffffffff Total rubbish.....

    • @crobulari2328
      @crobulari2328 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +ffffffffffff OH!! Lovely.

  • @richardkell4888
    @richardkell4888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    05:00 ... lethal residue ... thanks pal !!
    The doctor at 37:00 .. act on the evidence man, be motivated by a concerned and enquiring mind, seek the truth!
    I love west Cumbria, known it forty plus years, poor sods. You see unemployment has always been rife in west Cumbria and witness the pit disasters say Whitehaven 1947, 104 men never came back from that shift ... and so ranks close, they struggle on best they can. Its understandable, for instance as we read Maryport suffered 80% unemployment pre-WW2 ... scandalous and far worse than Jarrow, families actually suffered from straightforward starvation. And in this Sceptered Isle, methinks those in comfort and with full plates of food were well insulated from the real world, from reality. That is why the present strikes and stoppages circa 2022 will not work, those in no.10 will be oblivious.

  • @simonharding1572
    @simonharding1572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder what happened to the people who lived in the house that had plutonium in it

  • @simonharding1572
    @simonharding1572 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    really good old style documentary and interesting- we should focus on renewables nuclear power is far too risky for a small island likes ours

    • @rockets4kids
      @rockets4kids 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The primary purpose of Windscale/Sellafield was the production of material for bombs.

    • @richardkell4888
      @richardkell4888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it was a bomb material factory. Full and square thats all it was.@@rockets4kids

  • @CageYueSL
    @CageYueSL 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Some thirty years on since this report was filmed and first broadcast and they are STILL dumping all that radioactive waste into the Irish Sea. Totally scandalous!

    • @MrRichard57000
      @MrRichard57000 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      how on earth is this possible???believe in the documentairy but difficult to accept.

    • @Tuberuser187
      @Tuberuser187 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Because of bullshit bypassing of regulations, dumping radioactive waste at sea was banned internationally in the early 90s. This was generally filling barrels with it and throwing them overboard, yet running pipes several KMs from a shore facility out to sea and mixing it with sea water and pumping it off shore is classed as "land based disposal" by the regulatory bodies that enforce the bans and is totally permitted.

    • @Ida-Adriana
      @Ida-Adriana 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Silently Sceptical Tell that to the people living in the cancer clusters caused by Sellafield nuclear waste! The barrels are corroding and rotting in the sea, contaminating everything

    • @thedeadstig123
      @thedeadstig123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is it legal they are still dumping all that crap into the sea!

    • @somatotrophin1535
      @somatotrophin1535 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nvr Mnd There are no cancer clusters near Selafield.

  • @ChorltonBrook
    @ChorltonBrook 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Walked my dog on that beach a few times, he died of cancer (thyroid) not long afterwards, coincidence?

    • @richardkell4888
      @richardkell4888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its reckoned thyroid and pancreatic cancer point to particles from Windscale .. sorry to hear of this, dog owner here, may your dear beloved pooch RIP.

    • @ChorltonBrook
      @ChorltonBrook 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardkell4888 Thanks. I still miss him.

  • @jonathanhawkins2227
    @jonathanhawkins2227 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good documentary, scary in general, sellafield will just continue as our so called government just see easy money and not a giant problem as already said. Shame such a nice area and you've got to feel for the Isle of Man.

  • @nirvanapaulpaulunderhill
    @nirvanapaulpaulunderhill 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Buy a Dyson Hoover that pick the Plutonium up from the carpet 😂 poor people dispite my joke fill so sorry for them, Sellafield should be closed down.

  • @thedeadstig123
    @thedeadstig123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    are they still dumping into the irish sea?

    • @richardkell4888
      @richardkell4888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ehm ... newbie here but yes, that 2km pipe i reckon is i suppose still active, they now want to bury waste at sea and on land, add some new-build reactors to a new site next door Moorside ... but please don't go to the beach, don't drink the water, the freshwater drinking water boreholes are nearby ! Theres waste ponds at Windscale full of radioactivity abandoned for forty years ... seagulls land in them ... its a total fck up... the Visitor Centre was much derided as moronic and a total sham, aimed at five year olds. etc etc

  • @sarahlee6641
    @sarahlee6641 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    May have been well known what scale was in use for mesurements, although assuming everyone knows, is a bit awquard if you ask me, just those words may be forgotten, even if you know you should have an idea.

  • @crobulari2328
    @crobulari2328 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Plutonium..........Check your vacuum cleaner bags.

  • @simonzinc-trumpetharris852
    @simonzinc-trumpetharris852 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why aren't they measuring in rads?

  • @kowalski7086
    @kowalski7086 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The building never actually blew open so it’s not as serious.

  • @tommyedwards3730
    @tommyedwards3730 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    THE SCALE OF THE PROBLEM ! IS LITERALLY WINDSCALE /PERIOD.

  • @MrWeedWacky
    @MrWeedWacky 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    4:10 : he says "I get over 40 counts per second, the background radiation is 0.01 count per second that is 100 times more than the background radiation"...
    No... its 4000 times! 0.01 X 100 = 1...

    • @onegmsgmailcom
      @onegmsgmailcom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You wrong - > RADIOACTIVITY - THE READINGS AND THE HAZARDS
      The following numbers are c.p.s. (counts per second). As a measurement of 'health hazard' they represent relative risk, if you are of the opinion that there is no 'safe' level of radioactivity it would be best to avoid anything with a reading above 2 c.p.s.
      1 to 2: natural background level (good reading - shows Geiger counter is working properly)
      3 or 4: slightly above background level
      5 to 10: even at these low levels an item (e.g. watch) should not be kept next to skin for prolonged periods
      10 to 100: do not carry the item next to the skin at all
      100 to 200: do not to carry item close to your body, just handle it very occasionally
      200 to 500: best not to handle the item at all
      - 700: Geiger counter overloads and gives continuous alarm - extreme caution!

    • @longden57
      @longden57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dr Day is likely referring to milliroentgens per hour - the frequently used unit of equivalent dose rate at the time.
      0.01 milliroentgens per hour is equal to 0.10 microseiverts in today's money.
      He's actually looking at his companions meter when quoting those figures of '100 times background', so she likley had a meter that read in equivalent dose rate. they were probably reading around 10 microseiverts per hour, which is about right for one hundred times background; which is about 2-3 times the dose rate per hour you're exposed to on a commercial flight), or approximately the same as a dental X-ray if you stood there for an hour (but a full body dose).
      Regards,
      A nuclear engineer.

  • @andrewcullum8437
    @andrewcullum8437 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm squirming official guy not wanting to publicise the dangers of living in the area...

  • @krzysiekv12
    @krzysiekv12 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Guy at 44:00 was stressed af

  • @TheRythmdoctor
    @TheRythmdoctor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m getting all the radiators removed from my house

  • @andrewpetersen6116
    @andrewpetersen6116 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont have plutonium particles in the air where i live

  • @dnb55
    @dnb55 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That district doctor gets taken out for very nice meals

    • @thetruth7633
      @thetruth7633 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And an envelope ✉️💶💶💶

  • @eoinf1276
    @eoinf1276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dumped into the “Irish Sea” when Ireland doesn’t have nuclear energy!

    • @richardkell4888
      @richardkell4888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bono and U2 staged a protest on that Seascale beach.

  • @hyp77
    @hyp77 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    If this nuclear madness had affected the stupid and brainless decision makers, instead of innocent civilians,all would be fine.I'm so glad that my country have no nuclear madness going on.But we will all be affected sooner or later.

  • @gexpe2003
    @gexpe2003 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow

  • @richardcarew4708
    @richardcarew4708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plutonium is so dense and has so much mass per unit volume, it is more dense than lead by many orders of magnitude, and metallic gold and platinum... 19 and 21 respectively.. gold has 79 protons, platinum is more dense and is only 78 protons but is more tightly packed...plutonium has 94 protons and 150 neutrons... unless it's discharged outside the reactor... it's not discharged with cooling water unless something is drastically wrong... when the accident occurred they were using graphite to separate the rods of uranium to use the decay of uranium to build larger elements, Neptunium, uranium & Americonium & plutonium .. Uranium is thought to be the last naturally occurring radioactive element... although the mountains behind me are full of Pu244... in a very ancient breeder reactor.. which uses Aluminum oxide with AuPt in the planes of cleavage to shield each section with radioactive isotopes so they exist in small cubes, way below critical mass.. it's a technology that we can use

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      @richardcarew4708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @richardcarew4708
      @richardcarew4708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As Uranium fissions into thorium, it gives off alpha particles, helium nuclei, pretty close to the speed of light... they are like very very small very very fast bullets... plutonium, despite misinformation saying it has alpha emissions, it's a beta emitter... from the slow decay of neutrons into protons.. to become Americonium 238.. plutonium also has a 238 isotope, as does uranium.. the difference is numbers of protons... and varying numbers of neutrons, which act as buffers within the nucleus.. so more are required to balance the equation... and the ratio of protons/neutrons in plutonium is 1.5957446809... the Golden Ratio is between 1.5 and 1.7.. this is why plutonium has such a long half life... it's fairly stable, my father told me one could hold plutonium in the hand safely... beta radiation is just electrons... and they don't penetrate the skin or anything else... as soon as they touch something solid they are absorbed by it.... if you get Pu244 inside the body it's just as dangerous as uranium .. outside its a permanent heat source with a half life measured in billions of years ... the beta emissions are about as dangerous as old fashioned television tubes, but not quite

    • @richardcarew4708
      @richardcarew4708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe, instead of blowing each other up... we can use the heat from Pu244 to create free electricity from all the electrons coming from the stuff... mine glows bright orange-ish red... and it has been doing so since before the KT extinction event... it's a technology from the civilization prior to our own...

    • @richardcarew4708
      @richardcarew4708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It also gives me a method to date the occurrence of the KT extinction event... numbers don't lie... but people sure do

    • @richardcarew4708
      @richardcarew4708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Platinum has a radioactive isotope... and the volcanic ash has Pt190 in it.. it's frequently the only isotope... because it was exposed by the high temperature of the KT extinction event
      AuPt is not metallic bonds.. it has covalent bonds... the strongest bonds possible, because they are double double covalent bonds. . And AuPt has been hidden on the far side of the tremendous enthalpy imposed by the high melting point of platinum and institutional ignorance perpetrated in Universities that create science people who only know one subject well... the physical sciences are not separate disciplines... chemistry, physics and geology are one thing, not separate from each other...
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  • @maui509
    @maui509 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    life expectancy has dropped 12 years in that area to date

    • @crobulari2328
      @crobulari2328 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +maui509 This shithole at Sellafields needs shutting right down NOW. Fuck the plans for the nuclear reactor at Hinkley point as well. Wake up and Get real.

    • @charlieg9445
      @charlieg9445 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Crobular I why would you shut it down? :')

    • @crobulari2328
      @crobulari2328 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Where TF have you been.!!. Go away!. I do not answer downright stupid questions.Troglodyte.

    • @phillyleighton86
      @phillyleighton86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I lived near sellafield for 10 years now I glow in the dark and have super human weed smoking abilities

    • @stopgotdamndeletingmycomme8642
      @stopgotdamndeletingmycomme8642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@phillyleighton86 i shudnt but 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jonrice6855
    @jonrice6855 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the United State guys is contradicting himself from the video Mr Mummery is a dush I'm glad I don't live there in seascale or bootle or near windscale

  • @iancameron2759
    @iancameron2759 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't figure out if that district medical examiner guy was coldly trying to cover up the deaths due to colluding with Windscale or if he is just afraid of saying something on TV that ends up getting him into trouble. Any opinions on that?

    • @crobulari2328
      @crobulari2328 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think this is all baloney. I am going for a holiday there. Going swimming too. Cannot go yet but I am saving up for 100000 years time.

    • @blackbirdsinging6264
      @blackbirdsinging6264 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ian Cameron Because Dr.Death is going to lose his cushy job if he does his job and protects the public.Letters after the name are not a good indicator of moral integrity,they just make for useful idiots if their integrity can be bought.Sad but often true.

  • @andrewcullum8437
    @andrewcullum8437 ปีที่แล้ว

    BNFL in complete denial...

  • @tommorris3688
    @tommorris3688 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    . . . I remember year 2011 when I was working in the west coast of Norway. For a week after the Fukushima Da'ichi unit 3 explosion, with all the dark cloud above the Fukushima Dai'ichi facility, it rained almost continuously for a week afterwards. The rain had an odd metallic taste and caused nose bleeds. On my window ledge, the rain was carrying coarse black gritty particles. At other times in Norway, the rain never had such a metallic taste, nor left such coarse black particles.
    Analysis: the debris from the explosion were carried in the jet stream and deposited over much of the world. Birds ingested the debris into their lungs, causing a massive bird die-off. The particles have landed on the surface of the oceans and is now poisoning the biosphere.
    It only takes 200 kg of Plutonium thinly spread over the biosphere to end all life on Earth. It is then not surprising that are witnessing all these die-offs. Since year 2011, insect numbers in Europe have plummeted. Birds are rare to see in gardens. Card windscreens in the summer do not need to be cleared of insects.
    It is very clear what we are now experiencing: the poisoning and collapse of the entire Earth biosphere in slow motion.

  • @rajkumarhazarika8718
    @rajkumarhazarika8718 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    M