Baking An Ancient Roman Cheesecake
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Please identify your casserole dish. Love it!
There’s a link in the description. Inexpensive and wonderful.
Thank you!
So this recipe is almost some kind of cheesecake lasagna
@@TastingHistory you are a trip max. Seeing a new video from you makes me smile.
"Carthage must be destroyed!"
"Sir, this is a Wendys."
No, this is Patrick.
I’m ashamed of how long I laughed at this.
@@felbarashla this might be my favorite comment thread ever.
My friend Michael ended every speech he made in speech class with, "Carthage must be destroyed."
@@Amy_the_Lizard just like cato. I got a jist that why the senate agrees to destroy carthage was that they are sick of cato "carthage must be destroyed every time" and just to shut him up!!.
Wait, it's a stack of hard wafers, layered with cheese, then wrapped with a big softer bread. THE ROMANS INVENTED THE CRUNCH WRAP SUPREME
I am happy to have been the 69th like to this legendary comment.
Miss Rebecca - Yes . YES WE DID .
dessert crunch wrap!
Cato the Elder: "For this recipe, ensure that your Carthage is well salted"
ah...whoo...the burn...
salting the fields was a really savage thing to do
Brava👏
@@paavobergmann4920 it's more of a hyberbole, the soil of Carthage was very fertile to salt it, since the romans occupied it afterwards.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED??
Yes I am, actually. That was very clever of you.
Carthago delenda est
Someone really looked at a human placenta and thought, “Just like Mum used to make”
Lol
Most underrated comment on this video!
Hilarious
Ooof!
I mean.... she did.
Cato: Hating Greek influence on Roman culture
Max: This would be better with filo
LOL
The whole recipe is greek anyway.
no one tell cato where rome came from
@@ollympian_art The Aeneid!
@@ollympian_art Rome was already an ancient Italian city state, though it's possible that they were originally Greek migrants, there's no real proof of that, it's entirely possible that the original tribes of Ancient Italy simply unites.
Max: “Don’t let anyone Latin pronunciation shame you.”
Me: *stares down my old Latin teacher*
🤣
Romanes eunt domus!!!
It really doesn't matter how you pronounce it. But also CLASSICAL LATIN OR GO HOME! ;)
Wel, when in Rome do like the Romans and give others because of how they pronounce Latin.
@@HuevoBendito i believe you mean "romani domum ite!"
Fun fact: in both German and Danish the placenta (the birth thing) is called "Mother-cake" or Mutterkuchen/moderkage.
In Dutch as well ('moederkoek').
Sounds like something John McClane would say. "Yippee ki-yay, Mutterkuchen!"
I once referred to it as a baby cake and my family never let it die.
Moderkaka in Swedish as well.
The latin name does actually derive from the cake, because anatomists tended to name the anatomy they found after things they thought it resembled. There's also the acetabulum (a small bowl for vinegar), the sella turcica (turkish saddle), the hippocampus (seahorse) or the uvula (little grape).
In Romanian language we have "plăcintă". It's basically a cheese pie, it can be sweet as well (with pumpkin or apples). I assume the word comes from the name of this ancient cheesecake. 😊
That's probably a fair assumption, since Romanian is one of the Romance languages
I saw your comment too late :P, thank you!
@Simona Yes! And the Hungarians have Palacsinta (might have got the spelling wrong) - for a crepe filled with cheese (or some other fillings); I wonder if Blinches (Yiddish) and Blini (Russian) come from the same origin
@@blahza12345 I was just coming here to talk about palacsinta! My mom is of Hungarian descent and she would make that all the time. When Max said "plachenta" I was like "...hang on."
Yes, it’s clearly the same word. Same as pâine came from panem, câine from canis and mâna from manus.
The two linguists who watch tasting history as soon as this drops: YESSSSSS THE LONG RUMORED DESCRIPTIVIST RANT EPISODE
So very true.
meanwhile the prescriptivist linguists hasten their descent into madness
"many more than two" you mean
I count at least 4 of us.
OƿO hƿelċ is þēs
I always think “Carthago delenda est” was the Roman version of finishing a conversation with “Thank you for coming to my TED talk”.
TED stands for
T.he time is now to
E.radicate all those
D.astardly carthaginians
@@averagejoey2000 It's been right under our noses this whole time!
Lol
Ivdea Delenda Est.
Or just replace "Carthago" with "Liberals" and you'll see Cato sounds strangely familiar as if things haven't changed 2000 years later...
"IT'S A SOFT 'C'!"
"IT'S A SHARP 'K'!"
*Ancient Romans: Just lounging on a bed, eating cheese cake*
Eating placenta*
Living the dream
keese kake
@@joebyer7034 seese sase
Do you mean Kheese Kake? or Tjheese Tjake? or maybe Sheese Sake?
Fun fact: Cato's entire agriculture book is actually a code which when deciphered gives explicit instructions on how best to destroy Carthage
I actually believe that
Marc Pig Cat, with a name like that😂 Did his friends oink & meow in order to call him?😮 Heeey piggy kitty, sewie meowser! You just have to wonder Who named him? Was there any thought process involved? Or was it a revenge kinda thing? Or a compilation of honor names but nobody thought about the combination detriment? Good thing Marc's grampas name wasn't Doggard!😂 triple cursed!
@@marshawargo7238 are- are you okay?
Fun aside: In German, the placenta (spelled "Plazenta" in German, btw.) is also called "Mutterkuchen", which translates literally to "mother cake".
it is the same in Dutch: "moederkoek" ...it's the shape and size of a cake, ony made of flesh and blood, and just as cake it is important it comes out of the, ehrm, oven, in one piece, or it is troubles for all involved
Probably true in all germanic languages, except english I guess. Moderkaka in swedish.
Morkake in Norwegian, same thing
It's fucky to me that multiple cultures looked at the variations upon "Mother cake" and agreed to keep using it. The word gives me vivid imagery of eating one, making me want to give a little kiss to an oncoming train.
What a beautiful language.
The comment section made me appreciate my latin teacher. She didn't care if it was c or k, only that we stick to one and don't mix it.
Like my tenth grade English teacher.
Kheese kake?
Lol my Latin teacher cared but she was never able to convert the kids who studied Spanish before taking Latin. On the other hand, my friends studying Spanish got plenty of laughs out of me trying to help them study but pronouncing Spanish words as if they were Latin
Its like the word "data".
Whether you pronounce it "data" or "data" is less important than how you pronounce "datum". If you say "data" but "datum" or "datum" with "data", you are wrong. "Data" and "datum" should start with the same "a" sound.
@@MrRemakes Same! At first I thought they were trying to bypass a filter or something by putting spaces between the letters :p
“It’s crisp and chewy, is that a thing?” As someone who sucks at cooking tofu, I can tell you that it is a thing.
If you do crisp tofu, try look up aburaage/kitsune udon - fried tofu can be really nice
@@crowolf3862 Japanese food is king
Haha..... Im a good cook but there are a few things I also suck at..... Crisp and chewy
This made me bust out laughing
As someone who ate tofu at a Chinese restaurant, I can second this. It is absolutely a thing.
Side note, I’ll never get tofu at that restaurant again. Not a pleasant texture in many cases.
I love how some ancient recipes are super detailed like this medium length essay one.
And then others are:
Meat
Spice
Cook til done.
His descendant (also called Cato) stabbed himself in the stomach as he didn't want to live in a world ruled by Caesar, the doctor stitched him back up but as soon as the doctor left the room Cato tore open his stitches and threw his guts across the room in protest.
Omg
Woah!!!
Stubbornness ran in the family.
He sure showed that doctor, didn't he.
Your avatar is awesome! Classic Cybermen!
I love how this is the second Roman cheesecake-type recipe (after globi), because any group that appreciates cheesecake to that extent DESERVES empire status.
It really speaks to cato’s oratory power that he was able to make “women be shopping” a law twice
Well seeing how little power women had at the time it's really not that big of a deal. But I do agree; he absolutely had some skill with words and presence, since he was continuously so incredibly popular and influencal.
@@Kardinaalilintu more power than in western europe during the 19th century, weirdly enough, because they could own property and appear in court
@@Kardinaalilintu Thank you for the obligatory "well women..." comment.
@@Kardinaalilintu Women in the east also had a lot of power. Even till present day. The only thing is, just like men, it was a certain class of women who had power. Face fact, men and women only had power when they are powerful or wealthy. It's a class and wealth thing.
@@Kardinaalilintu well, considering the fact that the women literally rioted in response to his laws... I'd say it's a pretty big deal.
Imagine Cato writing recipe blogs with "CARTHAGO DELENDA EST" after every recipe, or sending emails with that as his signoff.
That would be absolutely hilarious.
Weirdly, this is more of a cheesecake than traditional cheesecake is. It has layers.
Cheesecake was *we* know is... more of a cheese pie, really.
What kind of cheesecake do you eat? Also what kind of cake? Most old fashioned cakes weren’t layered, just solid bricks
@@achanwahn Gentleman, gentleman, there's a middle ground here. It's the same process as making pizza cake. You just stack a bunch of slices on top of each other.
This is something that kinda bothers me. Classic New York cheesecakes like you find at Junior's or found at Carnegie Deli are actually cakes. They don't have graham cracker crusts, the cream cheese is on top of a very thin piece of sponge cake. I really want to know who is responsible for turning cheesecake into a pie
According to Jaffa cakes, a cake gets harder when it's old, thus it's not a biscuit. Yet a cheesecake gets soft. Therefore, a modern cheesecake is a biscuit. 🤔
(British definition of biscuit used)
@@astralgen Except the earliest cheese-based desserts (let alone the savoury versions)... were pies.
Placenta fun-fact: in German, placenta means "Mutterkuchen" which translates to mother-cake. So the next time I'll serve Cheescake I will call it Mutterkuchen
Well that's a fun word :)
My grand mother did make Mutterkuchen. And in Italy a lady served me placenta(she said it plaKenta). Both were very different and very good. But I think the recipe changes with what you have.
rhababerkuchen, anyone? th-cam.com/video/4OOLlmY2EFg/w-d-xo.html
I mean, in the womb, all the nutrients and stuff from the mother come from the placenta... So "food from mother" to "mother cake"... I guess there's an awkwardly chugging train of thought that connects there.
Same is true in Dutch (moederkoek).
I love how Max always inserts that funny clip of him with the hardtack whenever he mentions it, literally makes my day better
Yes! It's one of my favourite moments. Perfect GIF-material.
Yes!
It's becoming a channel meme :0 I'm here for it 10/10
Ikr? Glad to see we all agree with this hehe^^
What's the time stamp on that?
I work in a histology lab - we process tissue specimens (like placenta) - and we're doing a lab week potluck at the end of next week. Guess what I'm 110% definitely gonna make?
Chopped liver😁🥳
100% deranged. I approve.
Did you do it? Would love to know the outcome!
I like how he structured this series: First there's an appetizer, then a little soup, then the main course, and finally a bit of dessert. Bacchus is pleased...
No wine for you lol
@@WD-zk6fg That's pretty tough talk coming from a lubricant...
Yeah sorry it wasn't a smooth punch line we can't all be the God of Alcohol and drunk celebrity roasts
@@WD-zk6fg I am the God of Tit and Wine: I erect a shrine to to myself in every brothel I enter.
Pfff “Bacchus”
One time, I was visiting a friend in Kansas City. As he drove around, showing the sights, I spotted a very ornate and beautiful building. I Initially thought it was a Mosque or an Eastern orthodox church, and I said "wow thats a pretty church!" As we passed it, I could finally see the sign on it. It was a Cheesecake Factory.
That's the most exciting thing in kanas
@@NoName-cu2qc luckily it's not in kansas!
@@mattditto4087 forgot that there is a kansas city in missouri
Charlies Cheese Factory
The clip of Max clapping the hardtack together will never get old.
much unlike the hard tack, which some say is still lurking in the pantry to this day...
Can confirm, 1 year later
He should keep re-recording it using the same hard tack but still jump cut to it w different shirt and lighting and zoom for asthetics.
Two years later, still funny.
I love that he keeps going back to the hard tack 😂
Why is it every time I see Max clack the hard tack, I burst out laughing. I love that it’s a reoccurring scene
Oh, man. Cato the Elder?
You missed a golden opportunity to make cabbage; the guy loved them so much he dedicated an entire chapter on different cabbage dishes.
perhaps later...
my cabbages!
But...why would you make cabbage when you could make cheesecake?
Cabbage is nasteeeeyyy.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 You will be haunted by a certain emperor for all eternity
Me: I love eating placenta
Cheesecake factory employees: *stares in disgust*
🤣
😂
Not to be weird but there's lot of more whimsical ladies who eat their placenta after childbirth
My mom was a Midwife for a while and we met a lot of woman who did this
I guess theres benefits
Mmmm plakenta
@@thisaccountisntreal107 I've seen ads for places that turn your own placenta into pills if you don't want to straight up eat it. I would never but definitely is a thing people do.
There's placenta skincare too but I'm pretty sure it's just animal placentas in that
I got an uppity friend who has studied Latin for his theology degree, any time I pronounce any Latin 'C' with a 'K' sound, he starts mocking me and throwing a hissy that I'm supposed to pronounce it with a _Ch_ sound.
Now Max has given me permission to tell him to go @#$! Off! Thanks Max!
“Chato the elder”?
german kaisar comes from caesar. i think it's no accident it's pronounced with a 'k'. it's probably a latin to german loan word from way back in the empire days when germanic tribes had extensive interactions with the rise and fall of the imperium.
What a chunt
@@oldfrend and the Russian “Tzar” is also based on Caesar or, Kaiser
He studied church Latin... which is closer to street Latin I guess. Hard consonants were most likely used during the classical period especially amongst the upper classes of Roman society.
Please don’t ever stop showing that clip of the hard tac. Also this is probably the fourth time watching through your videos. Endlessly entertaining.
i love how Max really spent almost 2 minutes for a rant on people arguing about Latin pronunciation.. As a linguistics major myself, I couldn’t agree more!! 😂❤️
Same here, as a latin student
@@hithedragon7842 same, do you study medieval or classical Latin? my uni only deals with medieval pronunciations
❤️❤️
Linguistics major also.
Minor in Latin. If my school would’ve had a classics dept that would’ve been my major.
SPQR!
i've always wondered.... what fields take a degree in only linguistics? this isn't mocking or anything. i just honestly want to know. i'm an english student.
@@min-magicks nothing. That’s why I worked in the wine industry for 25 years 👍🏻.
Seriously though, I think there are more job opportunities in AI computer type stuff where they’re programming languages. I went to college before that stuff existed. Also linguistics are often part of the anthropology dept at some schools. One of my professors had done work in South America with a native tribe that had no written language. He had to learn the language and then write it himself, so there would be a record of it.
I love how you've got Mew in the background, because placenta, because source of all Pokémon, because genetic parent of Mewtwo.
We're here for the deep lore people.
You are very observant, I probably would not have noticed that if I hadn't seen this comment. Also props to Tasting History for that reference, amazing stealth joke Sir.
I thought it was because it looked like a fetus...
@@baltasarjimenez2091 well that's why it looks like a fetus
He seems to put Pokémon plushies for episodes that he feels are appropriate. (Ex. The dragon heart, he uses Perrserker)
I do my best y'all :D
Cato the elder be like:
“Women be shoppin’ “
We all need a homie like cato guardin our wallets.
It's in their DNA
@@DaTooch_e - We all have the SAME DNA. Now get out of the way, I’m heading to the bookstore.
@@Ajehy Uh... no, we literally do not. If we all had the same DNA we would legally meet the definition of "clones." I'm sure that must have sounded a lot more intelligent in your head.
going from a biography of Cato straight to "And here we are...Cato's Placenta" was just too much 😂
As described, Cato gives off big "That Kid That Was Way Too Into Being A Hall Monitor" energy.
With that money-maker attitude? I got more a feeling of the guy that forces everyone to still play monopoly, sticks to the rules and then makes everyone play it out even though its clear who wins.
Hallway monitor & wannabe valedictorian/popular kid at the same time. Also volunteers to mod reddit & run the HOA. 🤣
For a pleb he sure likes stomping on those with social status below his (women & slaves). Really cherry picks tradition/rules/dogma only when it suits him.
This whole thread is sending meee 😭😂😂
@@workdaygourmet also discord moderator...
When displays of wealth come at the expense of slaves, one should take interest is limiting extravagance.
That hardtack cut gets me every time
Cato sounds like he was not invited to a lot of parties. But I am glad he wrote so much stuff down
He wrote more than just this book on farming (one on soldiering and some other stuff) but those are lost.
With you all the way on the hard tack cut 😂
@@anonvideo738 Damn, the one on soldiering sounds very interesting
I was looking for this comment, I hope it becomes a running thing. The *tap tap* is going to get funnier the older it gets
I feel like somebody has to tell you that babies dont grow inside of placentas. The placenta is an organ that develops during pregnancy, and the baby's umbilical cord attaches to it. It's essentially a little food sac for the baby
i'm surprised i had to go so far down to see this
@@mackenzie5522 ikr, i was like 'surely somebody has mentioned this already' but nobody had
Yes, I was thinking the same thing!
Yeahhhhh, I was thinking this too. Babies (and placentas) grow inside the uterus!
You mean fetuses eat cheesecake all day?
No wonder I resent real life
I studied Latin at school and my teacher would get DEEP into the arguments about pronunciation. It's a cool language to listen to and I like EcoLinguist's videos where the test to see how much Romanian, Italian, Portuguese etc speakers understand. I never get bored of spotting Latin root words in English and other languages and being like 'oh I know what that shit means'
Oh my god, the irony that there's a mid-budget women's fashion brand named Cato's. I'm LIVING.
I mean, I am sure that you're also living, at least I certainly hope so... but I think you mean livid.
Well, how about one of the smaller cities in Los Angeles County? Goes by the name of Placentia.
@@TiernanWilkinson No, I think they mean "living" in the way people say that to mean they love something; because it's so ironic that it's amusing.
@@sweetiepielarae Nah its definitely livid because it means "furiously angry" and it would fit given the irony of women's fashion being named after Cato.
I kinda thought Cato vanished in the late 90s. Good for them that they somehow survived
Imagine a congressman finishing all his addresses with "Vietnam must be destroyed"; this dude was on another planet
@@dgarrard100 A somewhat better comparison from a US perspective, but still far off the mark. No Soviet army ever entered American soil, annihilated American armies in their own lands, and through either force, show of might or diplomacy turned their own subjects and vassals against them.
@@aForkfulOfGold eh, I don't really see empires as having a right to exist so the "turned own subjects and vassals against them" part doesn't really hit me if you're going for any sort of apologist angle but if you're genuinely just comparing how Carthage is not literally USSR then good job I believe you
There's not really a good 1:1 comparison, though perhaps the way the Soviet union is drummed up in the collective US imagination gets at some of it. An interesting point of comparison is the way that politicians in both the US and (apparently) Rome use the idea that "our homeland is under attack" to justify wars outside their borders
or The Election Was Stolen! These guys sounds awfully familiar....
@@devong1838 My comment was intentionally framed from Rome's perspective during those times, because a comparison between the US and ancient Rome was made by the OP and the first response here. I did not mean to imply judgement on the morality of Rome's imperialism or imperialism in general.
How you read all that into my comment is impressive though.
I love how Caesar and Caesar are both apparent in Fallout: New Vegas.
Balls. I knew I wouldn't be the first person to think of this lol
"The Caesar has marked you for death! Ready yourself for battle!"
@@C-Henry "RETRIBUTION!"
The Legion would say with a hard C, but everyone else used to soft C. Legion would also say Ave as 'Awe,' which is the more traditional manner.
Thats the first thing that came to mind as well. AVE TRUE TO CAESAR
I swear, you and How To Cook That need to make a historical collab someday.
I'll bet Ann Reardon would love that!
She and Emmy (emmymade) already did a lovely one, now it's time for the Ann and Max version - yes please!
I could just hear the waiter, " Save womb for dessert!"
Now that's funny
A year later, and you got me doing a spit take! 😝
Max, thank you for being here instead of going back to Disney. ❤️
Somehow I had to think of a spin of this conversation:
Shrek: Trolls are like placenta.
Donkey: They are disgusting?
Shrek: No, they have layers!
Shrek isn't a troll
@@TristanBehrens: I have no idea how that happened. I have to apologize to all ogres. Of course these lovely swamp dwellers are totally different from the horrible trolls that live under bridges!
It's an alternate universe where Shrek was a troll.
@@michaelkonig530 That, and the biology of Trolls and Ogres is completely different in most fantasy worlds. Ogres are grotesque, obese, and inhumanly strong monsters that resemble orcs in many ways. Trolls are typically greedy tricksters who will use more wit than strength to get what they want. It's actually kind of amazing how modern fantasy always paints them as pretty much the same when they are in fact completely different.
The placenta is not what the baby grows in, it’s what delivers oxygen and nutrients to the baby. The amniotic sac is what the baby is inside, in the uterus
I was thinking that- if you've got a baby inside your placenta, something's gone horribly wrong.
I have a feeling that Max (rightly) loves that hard tack clip, as he has bedighted many of his videos with it recently.
"I'm **told** that I'm not allowed to put coals in our oven anymore." Made me realize that while I may adore Max from a distance, I could NEVER live with him 😂
Poor José
I have charcoal...i wanna put it in my oven to see what happens now that iv read this comment. I need to stop scrolling the comments
@@aceundead4750 So...did you do it?
Ace is now fully dead
@@aceundead4750 will OP deliver?
imagine Cato the censor in literally any other culture in any other time. It's hilarious.
Englishman MP, in 2015 : "This croissant was baked yesterday in Dunkirk. France must be Destroyed!"
Isn't that's just most racist politician
We will build more schools for our children to attend to. France will be destroyed!
@@bagusamartya5325 "Today the temperature was 78 degrees Fahrenheit. Furthermore I contend that white supremacy ought to be destroyed!" Looks familiar to me.
Greek senator in 1821: "Uruguay must be destroyed"
No, they pick a brown country like America does.
Not gonna lie, when you pulled the cake out of the oven, I was like, "oh, it DOES kinda look like a placenta". Good thing you didn't slather it in cranberry sauce or something 🤣😰
Same!!!
One time I was talking with a friend about italian food, and he didn't know what pancetta was. I had mixed up the words pancetta and placenta so I went on google and accidentally showed him a picture of a placenta.
Not the best advertisement for Italian cuisine LOL
I hope the misunderstanding was explained, or my country has lost a potential visitor :)
@@fedra76it It did come as a bit of a surprise for both me and him but eventually I managed to find the right word and show him what the actual pancetta looked like. 😆
"Accidentally."
Right. "Accidentally."
You were straight-up trolling him, weren't you?
@@fedra76it At least one
@@ShadowDragon8685 Well it's not like I googled "placenta", went on the images tab, scrolled to find a good picture, turn my phone over to him and _then_ realized "Oh crap! That's not what I was looking for!". We were both looking at my phone while I was typing "placenta" and then it showed up in the "images about" thing before I clicked on the images tab, so yes, it was accidentally. Though that would be pretty funny though, convincing someone that authentic pasta carbonara uses ONLY real placenta, no substitutes.
2000 years from now...
"No, it's color!"
"No! It's colour! And I say that it's grey!"
"What do you mean? It's gray, not grey!"
Then someone points to CGP Grey only for someone to retort that CGP was an American living in the UK
You wake up under a tree after a strange dream
Also- "Gif had a hard G, like Gift"
"No, it was soft like Gin, Gil, Gina, etc..."
That's now.
@@revgeorge1977 wait but i say Gina with a hard G
I always like to think of Cato as being like “good morning, carthago delenda est”
Something tells me this guy hasnt been laid. He so obsessed with carthage for some reason.
@@chrismoreno7181 his son was killed in one of the Punic wars I think
@@Kvasir-thewise1 that explains a lot.
Good evening Roma, cur Carthaginem non deletum est?
*Barges into any discussion or argument*
"Carthago delenda est"
*Refuses to elaborate further*
*Leaves*
The hubris involved in eating a offering cheesecake for the gods is palpable
What are the Roman gods gonna do, strike him with lightning and give him warts?
@@Foxxie0kun the Roman Gods? No. The Greeks Gods all that and turn you into a fly; eat you, have sex with your mother, sister, and wife just to rub salt In the wound. The Greek gods did not mess around when you disrespect them. Although most of that is just Zeus.
it can be palped
@@Foxxie0kun Genuinely wonder about who ACTUALLY ate the 15 pounds of cheesecake? They may have offered it to the gods, but SOMEONE had to sit there eating it all. or it'd be a huge waste of food.
@@MarioMastar I just love the mental image of a bunch of dudes standing around an altar with this cake on it, hungry, when one of them goes "....Hey, so the gods never actually eat the cake, so they're really just in it for the smell, right? So we can just...have it?" And all the other dudes go "Yeah, the smell! Totally! Grab a plate, let's do this."
Will never get tired of the Hard Tack Clap. In fact, someone needs to make a hip hop remix of that.
hell yeah
That would be awesome! 😂
"Sadly he never got to witness the destruction of Carthage because he died before it happened."
I, too, believe every man should get the chance to witness Carthage burning right before his eyes.
Cream cheese was invented in the mid 20th century, and now centuries of pre-cream cheesecakes have evaporated. Glad to see it's being covered.
Vikings and ancient Britons made cream cheese.
@Half Knight I dont class fake processed cheese. I was refering to actual cheese,not a factory product.
hey now, the old style cheesecakes are still around and kicking in eastern europe! find your local polish shop and look for „twaróg”, it should work just as well as the roman stuff
You mean, 'american commercial cream cheese was invented in 1872' I.e the 19th century. Cream cheese (the original one) was first documented in 1583 but has its roots dating back to 1035....
@@pheart2381 cOmMeRcIaL cHeEsE iS fAkE stfu dude. That's like calling canned soup fake soup because it was made in a factory. Nobody likes a culinary asshat
The letter C! My high school latin teacher (whose lessons were focused on reconstructed linguistics and antiquity) taught me it was a /k/ sound. But my extra-curricular choir teacher (who was specialised in classical music that used church latin) insisted that it was a /tsj/ sound. I was stuck between two pronounciations for years before I realised both were right and neither were right.
Imagine a realistic historical VR game and in any given time period when there's food being prepared it's literally just Max in the kitchen.
Interesting, I play a cooking simulator in VR, I'd like to see one with historical recipes and suiting environments.
"He limited the number of guests someone could have at feasts and other gatherings"
Me, watching in 2021 in the middle of a pandemic: Man was ahead of his time
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tyrants have always existed!
I scrolled down looking for this.
You took the words right out of my mouth!
I almost cried when he said 14 pounds for goat cheese. That's too much cheese
Sounds like you just need more people to share with.
Nah, no such thing as too much cheese
I used to find history boring in highschool, but the things you pick out to teach in the backgrounds of what you cook, is more interesting than anything I ever learned in my history lessons, and has made me appreciate and enjoy history more.
Its a matter of perspective. You can either see history as having to memorize a bunch of facts that don't matter to you, or as a seemingly endless collection of interesting stories that are all intertwined. The way you look at it correlates pretty well with how much you like it.
@@hadhamalnam Amen. that's really waht makes the difference. If I could go back to those classes and take them again after having learned how to "think historically" History and english would be my favorite classes by far. It literally took ONE english professor (technically 3 but one of them was helping me out directly and the other happened to be a history teacher who applied the same method as the English one) halfway through college to really show me how to appreciate literature and history. Cause of his way of teaching. He would always say, "Don't take what people say at face value, instead ask WHY they would say it that way." e.g. WHY is George Washington crossing the Delaware so important? Not because of the significance of the battle, but WHY do we need to remember that in modern day?" and it paints a very different picture of how we see and were taught about historical figures that feels a lot closer to "the truth" (or understanding why we are the way we are today). It's really cool.
LOL I love when you tell us a source can or cannot be trusted about something. There's something about learning that a couple millennia ago one dude was such a stan for another dude that you can't trust his writing to be objectively factual on certain subjects, that really brings history alive.
Using Mew as the pokemon of this episode is some super high-key genius.
Max, could you do a video on the things surrounding the meals? Utensils, napkins, manners, etc? I'm really curious what it would have been like to actually eat these meals.
Great idea!! 👍
They just ate it with a spoon lol
Romanian still has the word "placenta" in it(although spelled plăcintă).And surprise surprise,it is a baked pastry filled with cheese or other stuff(literally anything you can think about).Of all the romance languages,we kept the word closer to its origin
Wow, the word for pie in romanian (Latin language) is placintă likely coming from this cheesecake, placenta. My last name is Placintescu coming from placintă, so my lineage is named after cheesecake. Couldn't have asked for a better dish to be named after haha!
Cheesey! 😉
The German word for "placenta" is Mutterkuchen, which literally translates to "mother cake". So it seems that association is not restricted to romance languages.
@@MrAranton that's interesting! I guess the english saying for pregnancy, "having a bun in the oven" or at least that notion, is as old a time or at least as old as the romans.
@@lucaplacintescu412 "Bread is a good thing that grows in a dark, warm environment. Babies are good things that grow in a dark, warm environment." Probably the third or fourth poet after the invention of storytelling and bread said that, and everyone was like, "Yo shit, that's actually a neat observation", and so the bread-pregnancy connection spread throughout the neighboring tribes, towns, and villages.
Well Romania was basically created as a Roman colony so not that surprising
Fun fact: In Romanian "plăcintă" (which is similar to "placenta") means "pie",and that probably is because of the latin origines of the language
More than just probably, this Romanian word definitely originates from Latin! It's a great example of how certain old words from an ancestor language can remain in use in one descendant language, while completely changing meaning in other ones.
I'm pretty sure Romanian is just modern Latin
@@InklingThe Not really, there's also a lot of slavic influence to the language
@@cevatippenet5033 Actually Romanian is considered the closest spoken language to Latin. It’s an entirely useless language (unless you live in Romania) but extremely helpful for learning/speaking all the other Latin languages.
@@vtcs1963 when I read that you said "useless" I was thinking "what? it'll make you learning italian and spanish (or portuguese, french) so easy " and then you said it yourself :)
I'm just waiting for somebody to make a percussion track with that hard-tack clip.
🤣 hoping it gets sampled on Beyoncé’s next album.
i remember learning in my historical linguistics class about how linguists have tried to map out the evolution of latin and other languages. its so cool! i also remember learning that English "loan words" got taken from Latin more than once and we can kind of piece together some of how Latin was pronounced at those times, like roughly when Romans changed from pronouncing "v" like "w" to pronouncing it like how English speakers pronounce "v". so cool!
“Someone saw a placenta and thought mmm, that looks like cake “🤣🤣🤣🤣 the ugly laugh I let out
Placenta in Swedish literally translates to "mother-cake".
@@DefaultFlame in German indeed.
White people, 😩
@@sherlynfernandes8864
Where did ^ this dumb tampon come from?
So fun fact…if it was red they would look very similar
When I learned Latin at school there were 3 Latin teachers. One was the strict "K"-type the other the strict "C=TS"-type. Fortunately my teacher (the third one) always said to us that we will never know until someone invents time-travel. And he also believed that the letter "C" was pronounced differently depenting on the context and the position in the word like it is in English today (apart from the fact which Max also mentioned that there most probably were regional dialects and changes over time).
"We will never know" isn't really true - we do know.
But it depends on when and where you are. At some time, K was the norm, and later, TS or TCH was the norm. It's not one or the other, you can only tell that for a certain point in time.
@Enzio Alexandra Andrejew - My teachers were the same, using the soft 'c' (s) and hard'c' (k) phonetic rule explaining why some words were pronunced using the 's' sound for the 'c' and the 'k' sound in others annnnnnd sometimes both within the same word with more than one 'c', such as circumcision "sirkumsision'. The rules went on to whether the 'c' was part of the root word or other things.
@@sheilam4964
It’s a lot simpler than that, at least in modern languages. If it’s followed by a dark vowel it’s hard, and if it’s followed by a light vowel it’s soft.
This is why I prefer classical latin being phonetic
That hardtack cut gets me every time
I get a lot of use out of that 🤣
“Hey guys, today we’re baking a placenta”
This could TERRIBLY GO WRONG
How about: I did eat placenta yesterday
How?🤔
Love the video! Quick clarification: Babies don't grow inside of placentas. The placenta is a temporary organ grown inside the uterus alongside the baby to make the transfer of nutrients and oxygen between mom and baby possible.
Short version: Baby and placenta inside uterus, not baby inside placenta. :)
I would never have guessed that a cooking show is where I would learn the true role of a placenta in fetal development. What a strange and beautiful thing Max has created.
You mean like a hobo pouch, sans stick? Horses are born inside a sack you hear called the placenta. What's the diff? Genuine questions.
@@uppityglivestockian The hobo sack sans stick inside humans is the amniotic sac. Sometimes babies are born in this sac (a birth en caul), but usually the sac is ruptured during labor. The placenta isn't around the baby; it's next to the baby.
@@uppityglivestockian Human babies also grow in a sack, but it breaks during labor, releasing the amniotic fluid. This is where the whole "my waters broke" thing comes from. If a labor process drags on and on, the doctor in charge of the birth will try to help it along by breaking the sack. There is an extremely rare phenomena called en caul birth in which the baby is born in the sack and it looks kinda freaky. The human placenta is outside this sack and will be pushed out after the baby has been born. Source: I'm a nursing student.
@@thatfinnishkrista I am smarter now, many thanks.
I’m Italian and my family is from North and South…the variation of dialect and pronunciation …I would imagine Latin had so many variation…sounds right.
not really it didn't.
The north was conquered by the Lombards and basically they assimilated Italians.
The south was conquered by the Byzantine Greeks for a while and Greek was the lingua franca.
So... yeah - Italian isn't that Latin anymore. If you want true Latin ancestors - go to Sardinia.
The North and the South was settled by those people but later once the Romans finally assimilated most of the peninsula it slowly became the Lingua Franca…and be a cause of the influence of those settlers Greek or Lombard they added their nuances to the Lingua Franca. Sardinian have a culture completely unique from all of Italy with Neolithic influences, Italian, Spanish, French influences.if you go on TH-cam the local Sardinians explain the languages uniqueness…I understand most of their dialect not close to Latin as you may think but obviously it’s the root …it’s really just a melange.
@@antoniobroccoliporto4774 The Goths before conquered the Italians and made the Ostrogothic Kingdom, which was mostly just Barbarians ruling Latins
When the Lombards came - they outwards annihilated the Latins to the point where the people living there were no longer called Romans, but "Lombards" and the region, thus afterwards was known as "Lombardia".
Same happened with the Britons when the Angles and the Saxons came.
No, it was highly standardized; this was an important element of the empire. If you were of the right class, you would go to grammar school, where you would learn to pronounce things the standard way.
@@gae_wead_dad_6914 wrong
"Somebody saw a placenta one day and thought...that looks like cake"
How can I unlearn something? PLEASE 🤣
Take a combination of drugs that will wreck your short-term memory, or if you don't have any money, have a friend hit you HARD with a a hard object
@@peterjones6513 blunt object sounds more fun, it might even end you thus preventing further disgusting revelations.
I love your little guest hosts in each episode... I tune in for the food and history but the Pokémon make me smile
The cut to Max bashing hard tack together will never get old.
Ending every speech with "Carthago delenda est" reminds me of That One Person who always has to comment on all the City Council items with their off-topic pet peeve.
The kind of person who's like "Umm, friendly reminder but like, can we all remember to not use gendered language like 'you guys', please?"
My childhood latin teacher always insisted on the "hard C" (K) version, and he was old enough to remember the Romans first hand!!
Same here, though her idea that Roxette was satanism sort of took away her credentials a bit
I just rewatched this again. A spoon would have been the most common utensil at a Roman table (along with fingers) for eating what you had taken for yourself/onto your plate.
Perfect timing since it's my birthday. Now debating making it for dinner to freak people out. "How did you like my placenta cake?" Bwahahahaha
Happy birthday! 🎂
Oh my word that would be terrifyingly hilarious 🤣
🍰 Happy birthday
I can see this becoming a big hit at baby showers.
Happy Birthday!
"Go soak your groats" is like the best kitchen insult I've ever heard. 🤣🤣🤣
One could say that's the exact opposite of buttering someone up.
People often forget that Latin is thousands of years old and languages evolve over time. Even in English, a few hundred years ago it was commonplace to use “thou” and “forsooth” and S’s that looked like F’s. It’s no surprise that Latin pronunciations have changed too.
“Ftairs! We have found ftairs!”
The thing is that most courses in Latin deal with a pretty specific time period, Middle-Republic~Early-Empire.
@@Deukish And in the pretty specific time period of now, there is North/South American English, North/South British English. Australian English. New Zealand English, etc.
Thou became you because printing presses were made in Germany and they don't have the "th" sound so they didn't have a letter for Þ which is the letter English used for th they would instead use Y which looked close enough. That's why old time signs for say "ye tavern" ye=Þe=the and why Þou became you. Somewhere along the line we just started saying it how it was spelled.
@@sponge1234ify By that period in Rome's history there weren't that many speakers of the language within its own territory, even in the Italian peninsula people (who were Roman citizens) were still speaking Etruscan and non-Latin Italic languages, so "dialects" hadn't really evolved yet. Yes towards the end of the 1st century AD you start seeing the development of "vulgar" Latin, and later on more localized dialects & variations, but by 150BC that wouldn't have happened yet.
So .. I finally baked my Placenta today. It has an interesting sweet, chewy taste that gets a bit of taste from the bay leafs. Quite interesting and good. What I found the most interesting though: It stuffs. Two slices and you're done with eating. So I think this is not a dessert dish. More like a farmers supper.
An opening sentence you don’t hear often.
Totally agree! My first time with bay leaves, but they really showed up. The crust was al dente, and yes, it filled me up in just one slice! Really good though, and the right level of sweet. Highly recommend!
*leaves. And heavier desserts do exist, suet puddings for example are very dense- but if you're a manual labourer like many would have been, you'd have the appetite and need the calories.
"Cato stop trying to make 'Carthago delenda est' happen! It's not going to happen."
- The senates, probably
Cato: *hold my meme*
Cato blames Scipio. ofc he's not trending with Africanus actually kicking Carthage's ass.
Max always puts a Pokemon that’s somewhat related to the dish of each episode, I was wondering what Mew had to do with this cheesecake. Then I remembered that Mew’s design is partially based on how a fetus looks curled up. How clever!
Also for everyone in the comments it’s “ceterum censeo carthaginem esse delendam”, which translates literally to “furthermore I believe Carthage has to be destroyed.”
More like, As for the rest, I am all for the destruction of Carthage. (But it's almost the same, I admit)
That hard tack video clip gets me every damn time. Too darn funny.
All I can say is, Feminine Insurrection is going to be my new band name.
That definitely sounds like it can work ❤️ 😂😂
movie title. Cato: Feminine Insurrection
And will this band be playing indie rock of the angry girl persuasion?
(Yes, that was a reference to the movie Ten Things I Hate About You. )
Purple Hating Cato is my fav track
Are you going to yell like crazy harlot and demand privileges and no duties? If so, fitting name!
"I'm told that I'm not allowed to put coals in our oven ANYMORE"
Max, you can't leave us hanging like that. what happened? xD
And Jose' you are such a party pooper!
I agree, this is a story we must know. We must also know if the original infraction was for an episode.
someone said "no coals in the oven. and take your top off"
In italian high school (the closest modern language to latin), teachers use the ecclesiastic pronunciation, but often they make a remark about the true, correct pronunciation being the reconstructed one, with the sound K.
Arguably, the (phonetically) closest language to Latin isn't standard Italian, it's Sardinian (which in fact doesn't have a soft C).
I always found modern Rumanian very "latin like".
@@BaronSamedi1959 Indeed it is, in some ways. Grammatically mostly, but also lexically. That's why I specified that Sardinian is the closest *phonetically*.
How about rätoromanisch (Vallader/Rumantsch Grischun)? I think that's pretty close too.
To my ears Romanian is closer to Latin than Italian, but I don't know if that's just my perception. Where are the historical linguists?
@@fiesehexe8133 If I recall correctly, rätoromanisch should be what I would normally call Ladino, right? It sounds kind of Spanish to me, so I'd say it's about "as Latin" as Italian or Spanish, which is too say quite a bit but still with many differences.
Lol oh Max I almost died when you said “placenta, the thing the baby grows INSIDE OF” I was like 👁 👄 👁 no no no... babies grow inside the mother’s womb (uterus) protected by the amniotic sac, the Placenta is an organ the mother basically “grows” to “feed” nutrients to the fetus/baby through the umbilical cord which is attached to the placenta. 🙂
They chill right next to it
Not quite. The mother doesn't grow it the fetus does and its not so much to feed the baby as the portal through which the fetus pillages the mothers body and reserves for whatever it can grubby mitts on.
Humans have antagonistic or invasive pregnancies as a result of us having invasive placentas. Thats actually why some researchers theorize humans have such a high early miscarriage rate, once enmeshed its very hard to dislodge a pregnancy. Look at the horror fetuses that won't die and can't live yet are fully gestated to be birthed and die...theres a reason you dont so much see that in animals.
Its also theorized to be the reason for so many maternal health issues like hypertension and gestational diabetes. See fetuses induce insulin resistance in pregnancy so it can raise the blood sugar and get more of that sweet sweet glucose...who cares that its killing the mother. The mothers body tries to shut this down and its an ever escalating war of resources between the two. Things go awry when one side or the other "wins" over the other. Its actually kinda neat and terrifying
I came here just to find this comment.
But the placenta gives nourishment to the fetus
@@juliaswandanner6944 haha same here
That face Max makes when he bites into something that you know is some tasty stuff and your mouth starts to water and then you start routing through your cupboards.
I haven't finished watching the video but my mouth started watering from just reading your comment lol
the returning gag of the hard tack tap-tap every time hard foods come up never fails to get a giggle out of me
Plini stanned Cato so hard he even took on his last name, "the Elder"