Bought 7 OG Doubling Season for $3.50 each, in 2005. Bought 6 OG Cyclonic Rift for $4 each, in 2012. Both times my wife got mad at how much that was. I've sold almost all of them and helped pay for Christmas a couple times.
my ex used to give me a ton of grief everytime I spent any money on magic, but if I dropped $200 on disney pins, she was excited about it. If only I had put that money into magic cards... Don't get me wrong, I still put money in, but like 10% of what I put into disney crap to kep her happy.
I spent 40 dollars putting an elf ball deck together for tournaments in 99. It had 4 Deranged Hermits (2 foil) and 4 Gaeas Cradle. I am very grateful for that, but sometimes I have to stop myself from kicking my own butt because I put down a Black Lotus when it went from 150$ to 300$ and thought I waited too long and lost my chance lol
You missed out on the biggest loser cards out there, serialized/neon ink cards. I pulled a green neon ink hidetsugu and immediately sold it for around 2k. Just recently looked and they are about $60 now. Glad I dropped that time bomb when I did
Colect them because you love the cards and love the game, not for the value and one day even if the value goes up or goes down you will still be happy. Work hard every day and don't do it for money guys, just be happy !!!
I've been rechecking values since starting selling on WN and I've had several cards that I had to move from bulk to top loaders, including one you covered a bit ago, Laughing Jasper Flint. I guess one upside to the constant release of sets is that they keep breathing new life into old cards.
The cheapest version of Demonic Tutor is revised edition... I know it was a big print (for the time) but it's been out of print for a WHILE. It has been reprinted since but it's extremely scarce. I'm guessing The One Ring will be something similar in 10 years but we will see...
The cards like the One Ring-time has not been our friend give is the 7-8 years see how much they reprint/Ban-Tutor, great card and yeah the older one still commands a decent value point
I agree with you 100%. I paid $90 for modern masters tarms. I paid top price for many modern era cards just to watch them being reprinted to death. I got out in 2020. Ive been timing the market quite well i must admit by trading them in for store credit and building quite a nice 93-94 collection.
The president that Magic 30th anniversary has set says that it is A-OK to use proxies if they can determine values of "non useable cards". Reserve list is just a mind set to folks that don't actually care about playing the game, or want anyone joining their exclusive club.
Reserve list cards only hold/gain value with those willing to buy reserve list cards. It's a house made of glass. If people want money, getting a promotion at work or moving jobs for better pay will net far greater profitability than buying up $7 cards and selling for $17 eight years later. A more interesting assessment of the "singles market" would be looking collectively at the total gains and losses of non-reserve list cards. Unfortunately, as you point out, it is likely a brutal loss most of the time and not video content-worthy.
Dude. That video is nut! It finally shows the gain we make on reserve list investment. If you want to present more of those cards, especially the high end ones, and to show the evolution over the last 8 years that, would be awesome.
Recently my local store picked up greater than 30 duals in NM/SP condition. I traded some I can’t remember what extras(x4 Opalescene extra I bought for 7 a piece) I had laying around for 3 duals. As a modern format owner I own a lot of reprinted stuff. The originals always do better long term.
Oh yeah, the same holds for high-end stuff. I got a LoA for about $100 back in the day. Or a Cradle for under 700 - Judge version. Time changes the markets!
This is the exact reason why I sold 2 Sheoldred a few months ago for 150€. then I bought a lake of the dead and a Volrath's stronghold for 120 € both in NM condition. Sheoldred will be reprinted, the other cards won't. Unless all of mtg cards go to zero, I have value assured in the future. And that is just an example, been doing this for a lot of cards.
I have looked a few times and no I have not sold anything, but I have seen that slow creep in value and the losses I see when I have a card rotate out.
But are they not just GAME PIECES? 😅. It really bothers wizards that they can not tap directly into the secondary market, their only way is is to sell you overpriced re print boxes AND only cards their economic team has identified. They should stick to making a good product and let us decide what they are "worth" long term as a collector.
Wizards really needs to bring back a rolling reserve list where after every few years they select a few cards to go on the list. This helps speculation driven support on floor pricing and makes collectors happy while still maintaining reprint equity and accessible pricing for casual players.
you have to be joking. the reserve list is one of the only things that keep cards out of the hands of new players, and should be abolished completely if they care about people actually USING their product.
I agree it doesn't make any sense, but for me, most of my cards come from opening packs and boxes. I like collecting it all for the variety to deck build with the goofy randomness of what I own, also as an example, Otowara from Neon Dynasty I got about 7 copies of it cause I opened a bunch out of the few boxes and held them at $3, same with Fable of the Mirror Breaker. Started at $1 and I wound up at 6 copies cause I wanted 'em and sold a few at the $20 mark while holding the rest for use. The market is a funky thing sometimes, and if you can hold a card and have fun with it why not?
Sold my LEDs and city of traitors like 5-6 years ago when I quit the game. Wish I held onto them, sold em for like 80 and 100$ each. Still got my Korean mox diamonds tho!
Especially if keep being re print. But they do bring you back in time the older cards . Cards today you will look back when you see them and have memories of your family in these days.
I have sold a few over the last number of years, not worth it, play a year or three and sell, sit on the cash and buy on the reprint and then I never look again.
Wizards thrives on screwing over the LGS and the players. It is a shame that Wizards has reprints so often now. They charge HIGH prices for their sealed boxes which does not have much value inside them. I will only buy a sealed box if I get a great deal on one. If not, I won't buy any. I only buy the new singles that I want and are cheap that I want for my Commander Decks. I avoid the expensive ones. I have bought quite a few low end cards from the Reserved List. I will also buy some Proxies. I still love playing Commander and building different decks. Thank you for the video Mox man. Ramble Jamble. Yes, Wizards has ruined the collectability of the newer cards. Players need to wake up and smell the coffee. Remember, there will be several more price increases for 2025. Ramble Jamble.....Shop Smart, Shop As Smart.
They done too much damage via their reprint actions, people have lost faith in collectorbility, investorbility and playability. I dont think Wizards can recover.
Wish no re prints. And if one box is crushed no re print any card in it. for any of those cards till a box goes over 300+ on standard. So we can gain cash for new products. Over time
This would be great advice if reserve list cards didn't lose money as well. The only way you can make money on the reserve list is by convincing enough people to buy them so the price goes up. Shill
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Bought 7 OG Doubling Season for $3.50 each, in 2005. Bought 6 OG Cyclonic Rift for $4 each, in 2012. Both times my wife got mad at how much that was. I've sold almost all of them and helped pay for Christmas a couple times.
BOOSMTICK
my ex used to give me a ton of grief everytime I spent any money on magic, but if I dropped $200 on disney pins, she was excited about it. If only I had put that money into magic cards... Don't get me wrong, I still put money in, but like 10% of what I put into disney crap to kep her happy.
lol don't tell anyone you'd be called a scalper lololol
We have been crushed. No more re prints and she will be nice again when you go rich :) next 16 years hold. Keep buying @@chickensticks749
I spent 40 dollars putting an elf ball deck together for tournaments in 99. It had 4 Deranged Hermits (2 foil) and 4 Gaeas Cradle. I am very grateful for that, but sometimes I have to stop myself from kicking my own butt because I put down a Black Lotus when it went from 150$ to 300$ and thought I waited too long and lost my chance lol
You missed out on the biggest loser cards out there, serialized/neon ink cards. I pulled a green neon ink hidetsugu and immediately sold it for around 2k. Just recently looked and they are about $60 now. Glad I dropped that time bomb when I did
Boomstick 💥 I would watch a Moxman 2 hr video lol :) love magic, Patreons for the W 😀
Colect them because you love the cards and love the game, not for the value and one day even if the value goes up or goes down you will still be happy. Work hard every day and don't do it for money guys, just be happy !!!
are they actually going to reprint chrome mox, mox opal and chalice of the void or mox amber?
academy rector mentioned 2x videos in a row since i mentioned it in comments. its such a cool card 😎
As a MTG player I decided to never sell and never track the value of my cards. I keep only playsets.
I've been rechecking values since starting selling on WN and I've had several cards that I had to move from bulk to top loaders, including one you covered a bit ago, Laughing Jasper Flint. I guess one upside to the constant release of sets is that they keep breathing new life into old cards.
Been buying foil lorwyn like immaculate magistrate. 5$ should go up over time if no re print over time
The cheapest version of Demonic Tutor is revised edition... I know it was a big print (for the time) but it's been out of print for a WHILE. It has been reprinted since but it's extremely scarce. I'm guessing The One Ring will be something similar in 10 years but we will see...
The cards like the One Ring-time has not been our friend give is the 7-8 years see how much they reprint/Ban-Tutor, great card and yeah the older one still commands a decent value point
I agree with you 100%. I paid $90 for modern masters tarms. I paid top price for many modern era cards just to watch them being reprinted to death. I got out in 2020. Ive been timing the market quite well i must admit by trading them in for store credit and building quite a nice 93-94 collection.
@@chadhiatt1658 awesome
The president that Magic 30th anniversary has set says that it is A-OK to use proxies if they can determine values of "non useable cards". Reserve list is just a mind set to folks that don't actually care about playing the game, or want anyone joining their exclusive club.
@@NunyaBiznus-l4s exclusive club lol. all are welcomed.
Reserve list cards only hold/gain value with those willing to buy reserve list cards. It's a house made of glass.
If people want money, getting a promotion at work or moving jobs for better pay will net far greater profitability than buying up $7 cards and selling for $17 eight years later.
A more interesting assessment of the "singles market" would be looking collectively at the total gains and losses of non-reserve list cards. Unfortunately, as you point out, it is likely a brutal loss most of the time and not video content-worthy.
Dude. That video is nut! It finally shows the gain we make on reserve list investment.
If you want to present more of those cards, especially the high end ones, and to show the evolution over the last 8 years that, would be awesome.
@@gregv5025 Boomstick
Recently my local store picked up greater than 30 duals in NM/SP condition. I traded some I can’t remember what extras(x4 Opalescene extra I bought for 7 a piece) I had laying around for 3 duals.
As a modern format owner I own a lot of reprinted stuff. The originals always do better long term.
Oh yeah, the same holds for high-end stuff. I got a LoA for about $100 back in the day. Or a Cradle for under 700 - Judge version. Time changes the markets!
Boooooomstick
This is the exact reason why I sold 2 Sheoldred a few months ago for 150€. then I bought a lake of the dead and a Volrath's stronghold for 120 € both in NM condition.
Sheoldred will be reprinted, the other cards won't. Unless all of mtg cards go to zero, I have value assured in the future. And that is just an example, been doing this for a lot of cards.
@@jorgenorberto293 sweeeet deal
@@MTGMOXMAN I know right?!
Anyone else remember when Clone and False Orders were on the reserved list?
I have sold a bunch of modern cards and have bought duals and even a city of traitors with the cash from the trade in.
BOOOOMSTICK!!! NICE which ones did you get.
I have looked a few times and no I have not sold anything, but I have seen that slow creep in value and the losses I see when I have a card rotate out.
Each decides the fate of their own Collection.
But are they not just GAME PIECES? 😅.
It really bothers wizards that they can not tap directly into the secondary market, their only way is is to sell you overpriced re print boxes AND only cards their economic team has identified.
They should stick to making a good product and let us decide what they are "worth" long term as a collector.
@@komitadjimcduff8853 lol
Wizards really needs to bring back a rolling reserve list where after every few years they select a few cards to go on the list. This helps speculation driven support on floor pricing and makes collectors happy while still maintaining reprint equity and accessible pricing for casual players.
I agree
💯 Agreed!!!
Just need a reprint policy that lays out rules on how often certain rarity is printed.
you have to be joking. the reserve list is one of the only things that keep cards out of the hands of new players, and should be abolished completely if they care about people actually USING their product.
@@slantize many fail to realize without a reserve list mtg would have failed in the early days and likely saved the game that everyone enjoys now.
I agree it doesn't make any sense, but for me, most of my cards come from opening packs and boxes.
I like collecting it all for the variety to deck build with the goofy randomness of what I own, also as an example, Otowara from Neon Dynasty I got about 7 copies of it cause I opened a bunch out of the few boxes and held them at $3, same with Fable of the Mirror Breaker. Started at $1 and I wound up at 6 copies cause I wanted 'em and sold a few at the $20 mark while holding the rest for use.
The market is a funky thing sometimes, and if you can hold a card and have fun with it why not?
@@zachnewman3795 boomstick
fallout version of tarmogoyf is awesome
Sold my LEDs and city of traitors like 5-6 years ago when I quit the game. Wish I held onto them, sold em for like 80 and 100$ each. Still got my Korean mox diamonds tho!
Never get rid of RL hehe, Mox diamond! WOOT
Its cardboard at the end of the day 😂
Especially if keep being re print. But they do bring you back in time the older cards . Cards today you will look back when you see them and have memories of your family in these days.
How do you even really trust the reserve list, tho?
@@Muaahaa 100% until they Break it
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In bought the full art foil three tree city (4) and I’m certain im gonna get hosed on them
Fastbond #1
WOOT
I have sold a few over the last number of years, not worth it, play a year or three and sell, sit on the cash and buy on the reprint and then I never look again.
Yep!
Thrull champion? Worthless? Sir! He is in my tribal Thrull deck and I eagerly await the day when he encounters a changeling for me to steal
@@markcahalan5698 lol well many people do not think much of him hehe
Boomstick 🎉
Boosmtick!!!!!!
No mox ambers?
@@jared3622 lol not long enough yet hehe
@@jared3622 let move another 1k worth
Boomstick 💢
Tarmogoyf's drop in price wasn't so much reprints as much as the deck no longing being competative was my understanding.
@@JoeyDCote so power creep of other cards made it sort of obsolete
Wizards thrives on screwing over the LGS and the players. It is a shame that Wizards has reprints so often now. They charge HIGH prices for their sealed boxes which does not have much value inside them. I will only buy a sealed box if I get a great deal on one. If not, I won't buy any. I only buy the new singles that I want and are cheap that I want for my Commander Decks. I avoid the expensive ones. I have bought quite a few low end cards from the Reserved List. I will also buy some Proxies. I still love playing Commander and building different decks. Thank you for the video Mox man. Ramble Jamble. Yes, Wizards has ruined the collectability of the newer cards. Players need to wake up and smell the coffee. Remember, there will be several more price increases for 2025. Ramble Jamble.....Shop Smart, Shop As Smart.
@@Beckola44 great comment Beck
They done too much damage via their reprint actions, people have lost faith in collectorbility, investorbility and playability. I dont think Wizards can recover.
im gonna roast ya because 200x4 is 800 not 1000 lol.
@@chickensticks749 760USA is about 1k Canadian hehe roast!
Wish no re prints. And if one box is crushed no re print any card in it. for any of those cards till a box goes over 300+ on standard. So we can gain cash for new products. Over time
This would be great advice if reserve list cards didn't lose money as well. The only way you can make money on the reserve list is by convincing enough people to buy them so the price goes up. Shill
@@ratalion that can be true as I stated in the video . Paper value is not the same as selling the card