Great moment in time to capture all of these interviews! What a time to be alive still and provide a more detailed history of PC era, which fundamentally changed the world. And hey, in the future, probably this source material will aid with persona/knowledge avatars! Will be cool for some kid doing an elementary school research paper to do a LMNotebook interview with one of these guys. :) Having these quality detailed conversations with early days pioneers like yourself and these guys - people that were there and made significant contributions to history, is really valuable for the world to have. It is really great that you're capturing this, Robert. Thanks for sharing it with the world!
Gary Kildall was not present, but his wife was at the office. His wife refused to sign the Non-disclosure agreement and IBM got tired of waiting, so they left the office. They called Bill and explained the situation and Bill said, "We will sell you an OS!" Windows NT was a complete rewrite of the OS by Dave Cutler and based on DEC VAX OS. Also based on full 32-bit architecture. No MSDOS system was fully 32-bit!
@@WardCo Gary Kildall claimed he returned from his plane trip in the afternoon and met with the IBM folks. Jack Sams of IBM says Gary was not there "unless he was in disguise." :)
why do people say he was dumb... he couldnt possibly have foreseen what bill gates was envisioning. show some effing respect for the forefather of the PC!
The title should have been "the creator of Quick and Dirty DOS" as there are many "DOS" versions. It was initially referred to as QDOS by Seattle Computer Products (SCP). Digital Research had their own modified CP/M version called DR-DOS to claw back market share that was stolen from them. DR-DOS was always better than the MS-DOS equivalent. Microsoft always had to catch up with DR-DOS. Sad part of history where Digital Research were deceived by IBM. Microsoft grew their market dominance from using a clone of CP/M. RIP to Gary Kildall who was the real Genius. If there was no CP/M then Tim Paterson would not have created QDOS.
@@barebow40401 IBM offered DR a deal, which Kildall did not like, so they passed on it. That's totally on him, but I don't blame him since IBM wanted a buyout of CP/M that would have hung their existing customers out to dry. Instead, IBM went to MS who went to Seattle Computer Products, and bought 86DOS which became MS-DOS and PC-DOS. Cloning other software is not illegal or unethical. If you think it is, I hope you don't use Linux or Android or Mac/iOS because they were all cloned from AT&T Unix!
Bill Gates luggable computer IBM compatible clone was built by a 10-year-old after Steve Wozniak couldn't in 1980. David, the son of an IBM specialist, assembled the "Luggable" computer in 1980. The microserver was never activated on Bill Gates' luggable computer for the 1981 IBM sophwaer contract. David assembled the luggable while visiting a computer store off Atlantic Ave in Bixby Knolls California to load up the latest computer games. The building is now an autistic center, and the property has always been owned by Warren Buffet.
Sorry, but your story about IBM only wanting to pay $25 per OS is wrong. Also, a CP/M license didn't cost $2,000. You cannot trust anything you heard from Digital Research, Inc.team. Only Gary dealt with IBM, no one else. He told the DR team stories that were not true.
Audio quality is seriously impacting the listenability.
So true! If you can't get your sound right, don't bother trying to be a podcaster!
All this tech and knowledge and Patterson is a superstar -- so important to record this history -- and they can't get good sound.
Ok, so the audio isn't great, but it's still discernable. This is a great interview, regardless.
A rare document of contemporary tech history.
Great moment in time to capture all of these interviews! What a time to be alive still and provide a more detailed history of PC era, which fundamentally changed the world. And hey, in the future, probably this source material will aid with persona/knowledge avatars! Will be cool for some kid doing an elementary school research paper to do a LMNotebook interview with one of these guys. :) Having these quality detailed conversations with early days pioneers like yourself and these guys - people that were there and made significant contributions to history, is really valuable for the world to have. It is really great that you're capturing this, Robert. Thanks for sharing it with the world!
Great video, one of those rare ones where the audio of the interviewee is better than the interviewer :)
This is great!
Gary Kildall was not present, but his wife was at the office. His wife refused to sign the Non-disclosure agreement and IBM got tired of waiting, so they left the office. They called Bill and explained the situation and Bill said, "We will sell you an OS!"
Windows NT was a complete rewrite of the OS by Dave Cutler and based on DEC VAX OS. Also based on full 32-bit architecture. No MSDOS system was fully 32-bit!
Apocryphal, but I know from the late Phil Nelson, who was in the room, that's not entirely accurate.
@@WardCo Gary Kildall claimed he returned from his plane trip in the afternoon and met with the IBM folks. Jack Sams of IBM says Gary was not there "unless he was in disguise." :)
So cool!
what took you so long :) the 4004 and the 8080 were out ages ago.. hehehehe nice to see the legend behind my worst childhood nightmare! 🤩☺
you would of thought, with this rare opportunity they would of used their tech skills to make a better video
THX
why do people say he was dumb... he couldnt possibly have foreseen what bill gates was envisioning. show some effing respect for the forefather of the PC!
The title should have been "the creator of Quick and Dirty DOS" as there are many "DOS" versions. It was initially referred to as QDOS by Seattle Computer Products (SCP). Digital Research had their own modified CP/M version called DR-DOS to claw back market share that was stolen from them. DR-DOS was always better than the MS-DOS equivalent. Microsoft always had to catch up with DR-DOS. Sad part of history where Digital Research were deceived by IBM. Microsoft grew their market dominance from using a clone of CP/M. RIP to Gary Kildall who was the real Genius. If there was no CP/M then Tim Paterson would not have created QDOS.
Yup, and in fact Tim states this in the video
@@yacuza420 They need to update the title to reflect this.
Nothing was stolen from them.
@@ViklasSvenske Just duplicated. Imagine if someone duplicated the latest version of MS Windows. Digital Research got screwed over my MS and IBM.
@@barebow40401 IBM offered DR a deal, which Kildall did not like, so they passed on it. That's totally on him, but I don't blame him since IBM wanted a buyout of CP/M that would have hung their existing customers out to dry.
Instead, IBM went to MS who went to Seattle Computer Products, and bought 86DOS which became MS-DOS and PC-DOS. Cloning other software is not illegal or unethical. If you think it is, I hope you don't use Linux or Android or Mac/iOS because they were all cloned from AT&T Unix!
for real youre the seattle guy!! wwow i have to watch this. does bill gates ever drop in with like a 6 pack or a bottle of wine or something? :D
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Who was JZ - he put his name in the header of all .EXE files.
Not JZ, you mean MZ. Mark Zbikowski
@@YarisTex Yes MZ :)
Bill Gates luggable computer IBM compatible clone was built by a 10-year-old after Steve Wozniak couldn't in 1980. David, the son of an IBM specialist, assembled the "Luggable" computer in 1980. The microserver was never activated on Bill Gates' luggable computer for the 1981 IBM sophwaer contract. David assembled the luggable while visiting a computer store off Atlantic Ave in Bixby Knolls California to load up the latest computer games. The building is now an autistic center, and the property has always been owned by Warren Buffet.
DOS was one of the Best OS EVER!!!
Especially DR-DOS :)
Deskmate was real (mode)
All programming Languages (big or small) worked with DOS better,,,With Windows you had to buy a big language from MS! ;))
Terrible audio and lighting. Aren't you guys supposed to be high-tech wizards?
Sorry, but your story about IBM only wanting to pay $25 per OS is wrong. Also, a CP/M license didn't cost $2,000.
You cannot trust anything you heard from Digital Research, Inc.team. Only Gary dealt with IBM, no one else. He told the DR team stories that were not true.