Just imagine having that guy over for dinner. "Hey! Glad you could make it-- NO! We are having sole, not SOUL! By the way, you have to leave the cape outside, I just cleaned these floors..."
"...Of course Thanquol was involved." Thanquol (and arguably Boneripper) is the Warhammer equivalent of Bowser; Incompetent, gets his plans always screwed up by the heroes, but surprisingly powerful for who he is.
If big turtle has a million fans, then I am one of them. If big turtle has 10 fans, I am one of them. If big turtle has only one fan, that's me. If big turtle no longer has fans, that means I'm no longer on Earth. If the world is against big turtle, then is me against the world.
The Dunkleosteus was a seven meter long armored predatory placoderm fish from late the Devonian Period (380-359 million years ago). It had a set of bone crushing jaws with a massive bite force and instead of teeth it had blade like extensions of the skull.
I personally hate all of the main factions because of their unbreakable connection to WF. However a lot of the subfactions and new armies are pretty cool
I love how the Deepkin are just a way more interesting version of the basic "soul raiders to fix their own souls" shtick the Dark Eldar have going. BDSM edgelord elves vs FISH ELVES RIDING SHARKS!
I'd say they both have their shtick and they do it well, sure Deepkin have sharks, but Dark Eldar have xenos pets and mercenaries and horrible mutant abominations, they're both cool.
Dark Eldar: You dont understand I have to do this in order to survive, othewise I will go to super Hell for all eternity Captured slave: Couldnt you just join a Craftworld? Dark Eldar: Well yeah but have you seen these snobs?! I dont want to have one of them a a roomate Slave: How about living in a Maiden World with the Exodites? Dark Eldar: Do I look like a freaking tree hugger to you? Slave: Cant you even feed on emotions other than pain? Like joy or gratitude? Dark Eldar: Oh I sure can, but dont let our stupid amount of resources and tech fool you. Running a charity is just too much work! Slave: ...you just like being an asshole dont you ? Dark Eldar: "giggle" yeah you got me
This is sort of a thing I dislike about how GW does its worldbuilding. They COULD just as easily excise the angle about Drukhari needing to torture people, and say they do that because it's fun and it's all most of them have ever known. It doesn't meaningfully change what they're about, nor dumb down their grimdarkness. If anything, it heightens it, because then the Drukhari would only be doing this out of Sadism. They had agency in how they would interact with each other and the wider galaxy, and they chose Being Assholes. Same with the Idoneth Deepkin. GW COULD have simply written them as being pirates and raiders because it's easy. Or that they resent the surface world, possibly due to Teclis/Tyrion, and do it out of spite. Or they're an expansionist empire, who believe all the realms were their birthright as the eldest of the elves (in this setting, at least). But no, they're just soul-parasites, who need to raid against their will.
@@Bluecho4 hard disagree, even if Deldar are best when they do evil shit because they're pricks they need to have the underline tone of it being a necessity, because it's the basis for their origins in Slaanesh's excess. Pain and torture is a necessity, yes, but it's a necessity they go way beyond meeting due to their debauched nature, it's excessive and the kind of stuff that you'd need from the remnants of the society that birthed the God of Excess.
@@Bluecho4 But then that would ruin the Eldar as a whole. What, the Dark Eldar continue doing the same exact things that got their race nearly eradicated and they somehow survive? By hiding in the Web Way? Why don't the other Eldar do it. No, the Eldar are a dying race as a whole. Their souls are endangered by Slaanesh. That is the basis of their lore. The Craftworlders use Spirit Stones and discipline to resist and avoid her. The Harlequins are protected by a god of their own. The Exodites use Spirit Stones and their connection to their worlds as protection. The Dark Eldar needed a way to resist Slaanesh. And since their whole schtick is being the evil space elves, they obviously can't go the rout of the other Eldar. So they raid and slaughter and do everything Slaanesh likes to distract her from them. The Idoneth are their own thing, that does indeed seem like GW wanting to reinterpret the Dark Eldar, trying to make sympathetic Dark Eldar, probably for the drama and grimdarkness. You can cheer Space Marines or Orcs or even Tyrannids slaughtering Dark Eldar. They're irredemable, even the Chaos Marines are more sympathetic. But the Idoneth don't enjoy their deeds, they do terrible things because they have to for survival.
I would even add that the Idoneth brings freedom of interpretation to how they soul-raids that the Drukhari can't. Drukhari has to be evil about it, because...well, they're the DARK ELDAR, to begin with. Idoneth can any way they want. Wanna play an Enclave that tries to be peaceful and moral about the soul-raiding, take the Ionrach who tries to minimize their attack on fellow Order factions. Wanna see the raids as a form of martial honour and indulge in battle-lust? Take the Fuèthan. And then you have Enclave (or can create your own) for everything in the middle.
*Craftworlds -->* Their souls are already partly forefit, meaning it's nearly impossible for them to link with a soulstone. Doing so requires a particular ritual with a ridiculously minute chance of success. *Maiden Worlds -->* At that point you have to ask why the whole eldar race doesn't join the maiden worlds. Same with the Harlequins. It's an inconsistency shared by the entire faction. *Feeding off positive feelings instead -->* Slaanesh represents excess and escalation, so any positive feelings that are cultivated would have to eventually become too much to handle, resulting in negative feelings. All excess ultimately results in pain.
"The ocean can be a colourful place" Sure, if you're within 10 metres of the surface for the really bright colours and 150m for everything except shades of blues. That's why many predatory species in the deeper parts of the ocean are black or red - very few creatures at those depths can actually see red because it's one of the first to disappear in any depth of water. That's also why you see sharks, dolphins and some other marine predators have countershading. When your eyes are adapted for a marine life it makes a sharks belly hard to see when silhouetted against the surface and it's back against the fathomless deep. I...I mean... marine biology is _okay_ it's not like its super cool or the closest we have to alien life or anything
That just sounds like an excuse for even more color schemes. Imagine red colored Idoneth deepkin that specializes in raiding the deep sea convoys of other enclaves!
I'm planning on painting my Idoneth Spearhead set entirely deep sea coloration with bioluminescent elements. it will either look really cool or like absolute shit.
I have never clicked on a video faster. I absolutely love Idoneth Deepkin. Frankly the best part about Idoneth outside of the amazing models is the fact that they are one of the only armies that look amazing with garish neon colors.
I think that's because of how amazing their models are, for most people when they think of the deep sea they think of fish, corals, and other creatures being VERY colorful and diverse in patterns!
I have read a fan-fic about an Idoneth Deepkin faction which has an interesting concept. They make a pact with other cities being like: "Listen, we help you establish yourselves, and we may protect you. But in turn everyone who is about to die (old age, disease, etc) goes to the towers we built next to your town. We then offer assisted, painless suicide and take your souls. Instead of going to f*** Nagash we offer a form of reincarnation instead, as your soul matter is implanted into our aelves." So instead if soul pirates they act like ferrymen of the death or the wild hunt in older stories, collecting those marked by death. After all people die ever day and the smart shepard does not skin his sheep. Quite the interesting concept and it was written in a nice short story exploring several rammifications for the ID and the cities they cooperate with.
@@discountplaguedoctor88 the story's name is "Call of the Sea". Though I guessed with the infos I gabe wam power people should be able to find it. Anyway good luck in your search
Ive just loved the deep sea since i was an ocean, its depths being a constant source of intrigue and curiosity I also like elf booty It was kind of made to be for me
Seems like something wacky he would do honestly. Not because he couldn't *"Thanos snap"* the ocean away (he totally could) but because he simply found it amusing to have his servants do so.
After reading the court of the blind king the deepkin became one of my all time fav factions of AoS .Eldritch sea elves are both terrifying and intriguing. I swear with all the crap thanquol gets into the fact he's still alive means he is truely the great horned rats favorite grey seer.
I mean thanqol maybe stupid but he is also ungodly powerful he is one of the of the few non gods, godlike beings or demons that survived reality blowing up.
You forgot one of the best parts of the Idoneth Deepkin's lore, that being the various enclaves (sub factions basically) live in not just generic fantasy oceans but also many of them inhabit the seas of the various realms with such seas reflecting the nature of their respective realms. Such as the seas of the realm of death being oily and blackened or the seas of the realm of Ghur being full of the most ferocious beasts or even boiling oceans of the realm of fire! In fact the ocean that was accidentally drained by the skaven was one of the realm of death's, which is how Nagash found out about the Idoneth Deepkin's existence in the first place, as ironically it was one of the more Isolationist (i.e. don't talk to their fellow enclaves very much) Idoneth Deepkin enclave that was exposed from the drainage. And the Idoneth Deepkin from each respective realm's oceans reflect those realms in some ways which is even more customization options!
One of my favourite things about the Idoneth is that their personalities can be influenced by what soul they are given. For example: Dhom-Hain soul raids often prey on Orcs. While pretty bad and lacking in quality, the abundance of these souls usually make up for this. That, combined with the fact that most people wouldn’t mind them getting rid of a few Orcs, you’re probably wondering "Why don’t the Idoneth just raid Orcs?" Well, remember what I said about souls affecting personality? Apparently, over multiple applications, the fury and savagery of the greenskins seems to have partly filtered through to the enclaves Namarti caste. Many of them now seem to revel in the fighting and violence of battle just like an Orc, which only adds to the bad reputation the Dhom-Hain have among the other enclaves. Considering that these are elves, 99% of them having TTS Vulkan's fits is probably just barely better than death for them.
"... by the decree of "he really wants them"..." I lost it at that. PancreasNoWork's delivery is always the best. Idoneth Deepkin for Warhammer 3 when?
@@discountplaguedoctor88 Age of Sigmar and Total War are not as synergetic as it is with Fantasy, as the battles in AoS are much more heroic and on smaller scales than Fantasy
This is probably my favourite new race from AoS, others are just old but better, but this guys look cool and have a cool Lore. 10/10 would fish with them again
It honestly makes me wish they'd have fleshed out *"the world that was" (Warhammer Fantasy)* more in regards to different sub factions or cults dedicated to the various gods of *the old elven and human pantheons...* or rather had them play more prominent roles instead of the spotlight being hogged by freakin Sigmar! Seriously wanted to see some awsome priests of Mannan! (the human god of water and seas) The nautical nonsense and water puns they could've made, a sorely missed opportunity!
My favorite thing about the Idoneth (beyond the fuck you have have a shark army set) is that, lorewise, the Idoneth aren't all the same when it comes to dealing with the surface. Some like the Ionrach dislike having to reave souls and are mostly open to working with outsiders against Chaos. Then you have the Fuethan who are murder-crazy, or the Mor'phann who just want to be left alone as they vibe to underwater gothic trance music. There's a wide variety of motive and personality to them than just "edgy must murder to survive", even though it still fits.
It would be interesting to see GW do other sea creatures, Ex. Large Jellyfish that amp magic, or a monstrous Jellyfish that hinder charges with its many tentacles. They could also do smaller swarms of feral creatures similar to warhounds/snake swarms, or they can revitalize the Hydra/Kharibdyss or anything from the Vampire Coast.
There are a lot of Idoneth in Hysh still, since it is the home realm and all, but they try to avoid raiding Lumineth because they are fucking terrified of Teclis. I think Volturnos is the last living "first generation" Idoneth that was around before they moved to the sea floor. Volturnos is untold millennia old (there is a chance that my memory sucks on this one). They yoinked Teclis's soul lantern, which he used to extract the souls from Slaanesh, because they wanted to use it to try and cure themselves but it didn't go so well or they have not figured it out yet. I don't know if Telcis even cares about it anymore. Truth be told, I don't know if they have gotten all the elves souls out of Slaanesh or if they threw their hands up at some point and said "Good enough. I'm bored. Lets go home". In truth, I don't even know what the hell the Lumineth and Teclis even feel about the Idoneth in current AoS.
The Idoneth first enclave call Ionrach based in Hysh and is the main enclave in which all other enclave broke out from once each settlment through out the realms. Volturnos is around 5-6 Millennia old or at least half a millennium old (they go back and forth between how long the age of myth was but age of chaos 1/2 Millenium) and last of the Cythai the first souls remove from teclis batch. the soul lantern was last used by morathi to journey into Slaanesh to find & eat the souls of the Pheonix lords which is still in Slaanesh as Morathi lost after getting bisected in half by Aenarion. Teclis & Grungi see them as the poor abused children that Teclis fuck over while the Lumineth and Idoneth have a weird brotherhood-ish because chaos but Lumineth underneath see them selfish cowards while the Idoneth see them as the privilege golden boy to the Mage-god. it like an older brother with a rougher childhood & younger brother who more successful
One thing I really like about Age of Sigmar is that the model design team went all out for the unique factions in the setting, and I think the idoneth deepkin is a wonderful example of this. They don't need to worry about decades of lore explaining exactly why they have to limit certain aspects, or else suffer the wrath of neckbeards.
Watch a few 40k channels, but it's harder to find TH-camrs that do fantasy. Never knew about this faction, but glad I do now. Thanks a lot for the video
Ahah, the blood runs cold We take our loot but don't get old Yo, yo ho Yo, yo ho All hail, the mighty He's arising from the deep With tattered sails and incredible tales we're caught in endless seas. c r a b noises
Damn, you got me acin up for these sea elves. Love your channel to death. Has really inspired me recently to try my hand at editing and practicing video shit. God bless. If I had my own Sea Elf unit it would definitely be a Narwal. Could be a heavy damage dealer.
When I was thinking about collecting minis before coming to my senses, I found these guys looking really interesting and didn't know shit about them. Really cool idea man, thanks for this video!
I really dont know why, but your warhammer videos are my favorites. they dont get boring and i actually learn something new. just wanted to let you know, thanks for the great content.
malarkey, a good name for a random blood angels curse given to fish people with big ears. I actually love these models, though I haven't gotten too many the turtle is especially spicy
TLDR: the deepkin are mind wiping soul stealing shark and eel riding pirates with cave drip. Tragically only my own homebrew lore has them talking in pirate accents.
@@navilluscire2567 who’s hiding from Teclis under the sea? EYE EYE CAPTAIN! Who’s totally undefeated on turn three? EYE EYE CAPTAIN. If Nautilar nonsense is something you wish… then bring MSU eels and craps tons of fish!
I absolutely love your videos, and seeing the small edits becoming more common is the perfect cherry on top. Your vids on these AoS factions got me to look into AoS more seriously and think of picking up some models to paint
If you take a shot every time you hear "turtle", by the end of the video, you'd understand how that ocean bubble curse feels...and if that isn't immersion, I don't know what is
ah yes, another classic case of "idk if i actually would want to play as this faction but i really want that one model just to have." big turtle is my mood kindred
It would be great with the whole "Nagash going after them" thing if this lead to the rebirth of vampire pirates who hunt the idoneth, an army introduction partnerd with a more idoneth models as they try harder to fight back against the undead fleet
The Idoneth could even work in Endhammer, as some Elves who were transformed during the sinking of Ulthuan into blind, soulless husks fighting for survival.
I honestly thought these guys were the vampire Coast when they first came out and to this day I'm still convinced they are a vampire faction till I see this video. 1) I'm surprised they are actually elf the high elfs and funny how they are an order version of the dark eldar. 2) Miss opportunity to make a vampire coast faction.
The newer Age of Sigmar factions have some of the best models GW has EVER made. I only hesitate on buying them because I;m not sure I can find other people who play it and because I'm worried that GW could can some of these factrions if they don't sell well as the game gets new editions. They ignore the Xeno factions in the 40k so what are the odds of them providing long term support to non-human factions in a game I'd wager is much smaller.
That's my fear also, right now it seems that atleast with AOS while certainly the Stormcast and Sigmar gets most of the love it isn't nearly as unbelievable biased as with 40k's Imperium and SPACE marines or even Warhammer Fantasy's insistance with ignoring the existence of almost anything that exists outside of the "Old World" (i.e. Fantasy NOT-Europe), with more particularly seemingly hating to acknowledge the existence of *the "Southern Realms"* and focused infuriatingly on basically just Fantasy *"NOT-Northern-Europe"* 98% of the time. Oh, and them basically shunning the entirety of the eastern hemisphere like they were some *"redheaded stepchildren"* for decades! But anyway, little rant aside, *There is a real sense at a moment for a more evenly distributed amount of lore and story love in the AOS setting for all faction from GW.* (Stormcast not withstanding..) That said I honestly hate that they named it Age of SIGMAR, like them basically saying f*ck everyone else, this is Sigmar's story or age. It just gives me that feeling that they'll ultimately treat every other character or faction in the world as secondary sidekicks to that dude's show...at best.
So what are your thoughts on Nagash, since he came up more than a few times for this one. I (big surprise seeing as I have an Ahriman pfp), personally have an unhealthy obsession with evil wizards
Fuckin love him. A lot of Warhammer Fantasy characters actually act out of a genuine love for their people. Karl Franz (praise be his name) says in a Total War voice line he’s done many morally questionable things for his country but it’s out of love for his nation and people he does it. Same for characters like Teclis, Volkmar, and arguably even some “evil” characters like Vlad con Carstein. With that being said, in that context I love it when someone is just an unrelenting piece of shit like Nagash.
@@pancreasnowork9939 And a better vilain then the Chaos prick, since him ad to work out to have such power compare to the God who are bron already powerfull.
@@pancreasnowork9939 Nagash is the neighbor who gets pissed off that you didn't inviinvite him to your barbecue and so feeds your dog a metric ton of laxatives and it shits itself to death in your house, he then will invite you to his barbecue.
Yeah these guys gave me the inspiration to make an Atlantis themed craftworld army, I got the eidolon of mathlann to kitbash with the avatar of khaine to get an avatar with a cool blood cape and trident
@@michaelsantamaria5295 I mean elves are fey, they've just been rebranded in popular media as fey...but what if they had somewhat functional societies. (baring BS magical nonsense..)
Namor and the Atlantains feel similar to these water elfs. I wouldn't be surprised if you see more people come back to this video over the next few weeks.
The Idoneth are seafaring, deep-sea beast riding pirate elves with water magic. I wish they could grow beards and wear big capes to really give off the pirate look.
I'm just getting started with wargaming as a whole, but am super excited to kitbash some awuatic dinosaur models into alternative Allopexes and Leviadons!
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I bet the Idoneth use Dolphin Pussy Jelly on the regular
Is this video because of soul slayer?
What?
The dolphussy gelatin
Found the slaaneshi heretic...
That monkey jerked himself to death on that jelly.
Okay that Waterfall Cape is literal DRIP if I ever would to define it.
Genuine drip
It's wave, not waterfall.
@@cristhianmlr cool no one cares it still drips
Just imagine having that guy over for dinner. "Hey! Glad you could make it-- NO! We are having sole, not SOUL! By the way, you have to leave the cape outside, I just cleaned these floors..."
I get it
"...Of course Thanquol was involved."
Thanquol (and arguably Boneripper) is the Warhammer equivalent of Bowser; Incompetent, gets his plans always screwed up by the heroes, but surprisingly powerful for who he is.
He’s living proof you can fail upwards
Never forget that he accidentally summoned SKARBRAND and lived to tell the tale.
That’s Skarbrand and Bel’akor to. The 3 horsemen of being the universes enemy
Skavenkart when...
And who else The Great Horned Rat chose to lead the Skavens to victory during the End Times?
Ya boi-boi Thanquol, that's who
If big turtle has a million fans, then I am one of them. If big turtle has 10 fans, I am one of them. If big turtle has only one fan, that's me. If big turtle no longer has fans, that means I'm no longer on Earth. If the world is against big turtle, then is me against the world.
Amen
Turtle is love, turtle is life!
This is motivation
Big tortle is goat
That makes two of us. Big Turtle forever.
The Dunkleosteus was a seven meter long armored predatory placoderm fish from late the Devonian Period (380-359 million years ago). It had a set of bone crushing jaws with a massive bite force and instead of teeth it had blade like extensions of the skull.
Give me a fantasy version of that and im gonna give you my money
But can it solo big turtle?
heehee dunkle
@@mikeerrmantrout6350 25 foot long armoured monster fish with bone crushing jaws, that even sounds like a great fantasy creature.
IIRC there is already a miniature version of this creature in the creature swarm lf the Eidolon
Man you are singlehandedly getting me into AoS. This faction's theme really hits all my buttons. Praise Big Turtle
Arvandus also did a pretty cool little short story about them as a faction introduction.
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I personally hate all of the main factions because of their unbreakable connection to WF.
However a lot of the subfactions and new armies are pretty cool
I love how the Deepkin are just a way more interesting version of the basic "soul raiders to fix their own souls" shtick the Dark Eldar have going. BDSM edgelord elves vs FISH ELVES RIDING SHARKS!
They are just a “watered” down version of dark eldar
Get it watered down? I’ll be here all week folks
I'd say they both have their shtick and they do it well, sure Deepkin have sharks, but Dark Eldar have xenos pets and mercenaries and horrible mutant abominations, they're both cool.
@@TheNarwhal85 I should be more salty at you for that, but I'm shore someone will come in with something worse.
... Wait
Dark Eldar: Who are you?
Idoneth Deepkin: We're you, but better.
More "Elves, if written by HP Lovecaft" though admittedly, minus the racism
Dark Eldar: You dont understand I have to do this in order to survive, othewise I will go to super Hell for all eternity
Captured slave: Couldnt you just join a Craftworld?
Dark Eldar: Well yeah but have you seen these snobs?! I dont want to have one of them a a roomate
Slave: How about living in a Maiden World with the Exodites?
Dark Eldar: Do I look like a freaking tree hugger to you?
Slave: Cant you even feed on emotions other than pain? Like joy or gratitude?
Dark Eldar: Oh I sure can, but dont let our stupid amount of resources and tech fool you. Running a charity is just too much work!
Slave: ...you just like being an asshole dont you ?
Dark Eldar: "giggle" yeah you got me
This is sort of a thing I dislike about how GW does its worldbuilding. They COULD just as easily excise the angle about Drukhari needing to torture people, and say they do that because it's fun and it's all most of them have ever known. It doesn't meaningfully change what they're about, nor dumb down their grimdarkness. If anything, it heightens it, because then the Drukhari would only be doing this out of Sadism. They had agency in how they would interact with each other and the wider galaxy, and they chose Being Assholes.
Same with the Idoneth Deepkin. GW COULD have simply written them as being pirates and raiders because it's easy. Or that they resent the surface world, possibly due to Teclis/Tyrion, and do it out of spite. Or they're an expansionist empire, who believe all the realms were their birthright as the eldest of the elves (in this setting, at least). But no, they're just soul-parasites, who need to raid against their will.
@@Bluecho4 hard disagree, even if Deldar are best when they do evil shit because they're pricks they need to have the underline tone of it being a necessity, because it's the basis for their origins in Slaanesh's excess. Pain and torture is a necessity, yes, but it's a necessity they go way beyond meeting due to their debauched nature, it's excessive and the kind of stuff that you'd need from the remnants of the society that birthed the God of Excess.
@@Bluecho4 But then that would ruin the Eldar as a whole. What, the Dark Eldar continue doing the same exact things that got their race nearly eradicated and they somehow survive? By hiding in the Web Way? Why don't the other Eldar do it.
No, the Eldar are a dying race as a whole. Their souls are endangered by Slaanesh. That is the basis of their lore. The Craftworlders use Spirit Stones and discipline to resist and avoid her. The Harlequins are protected by a god of their own. The Exodites use Spirit Stones and their connection to their worlds as protection. The Dark Eldar needed a way to resist Slaanesh. And since their whole schtick is being the evil space elves, they obviously can't go the rout of the other Eldar. So they raid and slaughter and do everything Slaanesh likes to distract her from them.
The Idoneth are their own thing, that does indeed seem like GW wanting to reinterpret the Dark Eldar, trying to make sympathetic Dark Eldar, probably for the drama and grimdarkness. You can cheer Space Marines or Orcs or even Tyrannids slaughtering Dark Eldar. They're irredemable, even the Chaos Marines are more sympathetic. But the Idoneth don't enjoy their deeds, they do terrible things because they have to for survival.
I would even add that the Idoneth brings freedom of interpretation to how they soul-raids that the Drukhari can't. Drukhari has to be evil about it, because...well, they're the DARK ELDAR, to begin with.
Idoneth can any way they want. Wanna play an Enclave that tries to be peaceful and moral about the soul-raiding, take the Ionrach who tries to minimize their attack on fellow Order factions. Wanna see the raids as a form of martial honour and indulge in battle-lust? Take the Fuèthan. And then you have Enclave (or can create your own) for everything in the middle.
*Craftworlds -->* Their souls are already partly forefit, meaning it's nearly impossible for them to link with a soulstone. Doing so requires a particular ritual with a ridiculously minute chance of success.
*Maiden Worlds -->* At that point you have to ask why the whole eldar race doesn't join the maiden worlds. Same with the Harlequins. It's an inconsistency shared by the entire faction.
*Feeding off positive feelings instead -->* Slaanesh represents excess and escalation, so any positive feelings that are cultivated would have to eventually become too much to handle, resulting in negative feelings. All excess ultimately results in pain.
"The ocean can be a colourful place"
Sure, if you're within 10 metres of the surface for the really bright colours and 150m for everything except shades of blues. That's why many predatory species in the deeper parts of the ocean are black or red - very few creatures at those depths can actually see red because it's one of the first to disappear in any depth of water. That's also why you see sharks, dolphins and some other marine predators have countershading. When your eyes are adapted for a marine life it makes a sharks belly hard to see when silhouetted against the surface and it's back against the fathomless deep.
I...I mean... marine biology is _okay_ it's not like its super cool or the closest we have to alien life or anything
Why seek alien life when it's right here?
That just sounds like an excuse for even more color schemes. Imagine red colored Idoneth deepkin that specializes in raiding the deep sea convoys of other enclaves!
They could go the mantis shrimp route and make them able to see in multiple wavelengths that other races can’t.
I'm planning on painting my Idoneth Spearhead set entirely deep sea coloration with bioluminescent elements. it will either look really cool or like absolute shit.
I have never clicked on a video faster. I absolutely love Idoneth Deepkin.
Frankly the best part about Idoneth outside of the amazing models is the fact that they are one of the only armies that look amazing with garish neon colors.
I think that's because of how amazing their models are, for most people when they think of the deep sea they think of fish, corals, and other creatures being VERY colorful and diverse in patterns!
“Do you like big turtle?”
Me who played Elden Ring and is devoured to big turtle pope.
I am, please continue
I have read a fan-fic about an Idoneth Deepkin faction which has an interesting concept. They make a pact with other cities being like: "Listen, we help you establish yourselves, and we may protect you. But in turn everyone who is about to die (old age, disease, etc) goes to the towers we built next to your town. We then offer assisted, painless suicide and take your souls. Instead of going to f*** Nagash we offer a form of reincarnation instead, as your soul matter is implanted into our aelves."
So instead if soul pirates they act like ferrymen of the death or the wild hunt in older stories, collecting those marked by death. After all people die ever day and the smart shepard does not skin his sheep.
Quite the interesting concept and it was written in a nice short story exploring several rammifications for the ID and the cities they cooperate with.
Sounds fun and a good way to turn a faction with forced evil into something more grey-ish. Have a link?
@@hangebza6625 No worries, thanks
Got a title so that anyone else can read it?
@@discountplaguedoctor88 the story's name is "Call of the Sea". Though I guessed with the infos I gabe wam power people should be able to find it. Anyway good luck in your search
Holy shit that would work
Ive just loved the deep sea since i was an ocean, its depths being a constant source of intrigue and curiosity
I also like elf booty
It was kind of made to be for me
Never did I think that I would see a great old one in the comments section but here we are
@@Sourbell-YT hello there
I just imagine Nagash summoning a legion of skeletons with sippy straws to drain the ocean
Seems like something wacky he would do honestly. Not because he couldn't *"Thanos snap"* the ocean away (he totally could) but because he simply found it amusing to have his servants do so.
and then 3 seconds later the water passes through the skeleton's ribcage and Nagash just stands there like 'i didn't think this through'
After reading the court of the blind king the deepkin became one of my all time fav factions of AoS .Eldritch sea elves are both terrifying and intriguing. I swear with all the crap thanquol gets into the fact he's still alive means he is truely the great horned rats favorite grey seer.
I mean thanqol maybe stupid but he is also ungodly powerful he is one of the of the few non gods, godlike beings or demons that survived reality blowing up.
Thanquol is the Horned Rat's funniest Jester after all.
Got the shark one for my dad. Neither of us play AoS, but he liked the shark model
You can change that now!
You forgot one of the best parts of the Idoneth Deepkin's lore, that being the various enclaves (sub factions basically) live in not just generic fantasy oceans but also many of them inhabit the seas of the various realms with such seas reflecting the nature of their respective realms. Such as the seas of the realm of death being oily and blackened or the seas of the realm of Ghur being full of the most ferocious beasts or even boiling oceans of the realm of fire! In fact the ocean that was accidentally drained by the skaven was one of the realm of death's, which is how Nagash found out about the Idoneth Deepkin's existence in the first place, as ironically it was one of the more Isolationist (i.e. don't talk to their fellow enclaves very much) Idoneth Deepkin enclave that was exposed from the drainage.
And the Idoneth Deepkin from each respective realm's oceans reflect those realms in some ways which is even more customization options!
A year later and the best part of this video is still the fish puns
To harvest souls most efficiently and humanely I imagine they give their victims that special dolphin jelly and wait for heart attacks to kick in
One of my favourite things about the Idoneth is that their personalities can be influenced by what soul they are given. For example: Dhom-Hain soul raids often prey on Orcs. While pretty bad and lacking in quality, the abundance of these souls usually make up for this. That, combined with the fact that most people wouldn’t mind them getting rid of a few Orcs, you’re probably wondering "Why don’t the Idoneth just raid Orcs?"
Well, remember what I said about souls affecting personality?
Apparently, over multiple applications, the fury and savagery of the greenskins seems to have partly filtered through to the enclaves Namarti caste. Many of them now seem to revel in the fighting and violence of battle just like an Orc, which only adds to the bad reputation the Dhom-Hain have among the other enclaves.
Considering that these are elves, 99% of them having TTS Vulkan's fits is probably just barely better than death for them.
Ah yes, brooding, edgy, soul sucking, memory erasing, eel riding vampire pirate dank elves of order.
SOLD
"... by the decree of "he really wants them"..."
I lost it at that. PancreasNoWork's delivery is always the best.
Idoneth Deepkin for Warhammer 3 when?
That'll only happen if GW gives CA and SONY the green light for a Total War: Age of Sigmar game.
@@discountplaguedoctor88 Age of Sigmar and Total War are not as synergetic as it is with Fantasy, as the battles in AoS are much more heroic and on smaller scales than Fantasy
This is probably my favourite new race from AoS, others are just old but better, but this guys look cool and have a cool Lore.
10/10 would fish with them again
It honestly makes me wish they'd have fleshed out *"the world that was" (Warhammer Fantasy)* more in regards to different sub factions or cults dedicated to the various gods of *the old elven and human pantheons...* or rather had them play more prominent roles instead of the spotlight being hogged by freakin Sigmar!
Seriously wanted to see some awsome priests of Mannan! (the human god of water and seas) The nautical nonsense and water puns they could've made, a sorely missed opportunity!
My favorite thing about the Idoneth (beyond the fuck you have have a shark army set) is that, lorewise, the Idoneth aren't all the same when it comes to dealing with the surface. Some like the Ionrach dislike having to reave souls and are mostly open to working with outsiders against Chaos. Then you have the Fuethan who are murder-crazy, or the Mor'phann who just want to be left alone as they vibe to underwater gothic trance music. There's a wide variety of motive and personality to them than just "edgy must murder to survive", even though it still fits.
Tell me more about Big Turtle.
What are his hobbies? Does he have a wife? What are his opinions on Sigmar and the betrayal of the pact with Nagash?
I am currently in hospital after being diagnosed with diabetes and your videos are comforting me rn
Seaside Town: Minds it’s own business.
Idoneth Deepkin: _”DARLING IT’S BETTA, DOWN WHERE IT’S WETTA!”_
It would be interesting to see GW do other sea creatures,
Ex. Large Jellyfish that amp magic, or a monstrous Jellyfish that hinder charges with its many tentacles. They could also do smaller swarms of feral creatures similar to warhounds/snake swarms, or they can revitalize the Hydra/Kharibdyss or anything from the Vampire Coast.
There are a lot of Idoneth in Hysh still, since it is the home realm and all, but they try to avoid raiding Lumineth because they are fucking terrified of Teclis. I think Volturnos is the last living "first generation" Idoneth that was around before they moved to the sea floor. Volturnos is untold millennia old (there is a chance that my memory sucks on this one). They yoinked Teclis's soul lantern, which he used to extract the souls from Slaanesh, because they wanted to use it to try and cure themselves but it didn't go so well or they have not figured it out yet. I don't know if Telcis even cares about it anymore. Truth be told, I don't know if they have gotten all the elves souls out of Slaanesh or if they threw their hands up at some point and said "Good enough. I'm bored. Lets go home". In truth, I don't even know what the hell the Lumineth and Teclis even feel about the Idoneth in current AoS.
The Idoneth first enclave call Ionrach based in Hysh and is the main enclave in which all other enclave broke out from once each settlment through out the realms. Volturnos is around 5-6 Millennia old or at least half a millennium old (they go back and forth between how long the age of myth was but age of chaos 1/2 Millenium) and last of the Cythai the first souls remove from teclis batch.
the soul lantern was last used by morathi to journey into Slaanesh to find & eat the souls of the Pheonix lords which is still in Slaanesh as Morathi lost after getting bisected in half by Aenarion. Teclis & Grungi see them as the poor abused children that Teclis fuck over while the Lumineth and Idoneth have a weird brotherhood-ish because chaos but Lumineth underneath see them selfish cowards while the Idoneth see them as the privilege golden boy to the Mage-god. it like an older brother with a rougher childhood & younger brother who more successful
Honestly this guys are OP, if the other player has talassophobia they'll just run away screaming the moment you pull them out.
Idoneth are so cool looking with their atlantis aesthetic, wish for the love of god they get a kraken sometime soon though. Me want big sea monster
In the newest Gotrek book a full on Mathlann avatar was created btw. Was pretty dope and I hope it some day gets onto the tabletop.
I've watched a few vids but the fish jokes got u the subscription.
HOLY HECK ONE OF THE BEST AOS's Ideas! Finally getting covered!!! Yes!
I've never heard about these guys before watching this and now I want them
Not an AoS guy?
The Average Drukhari Fan 🤓 vs The Average Idoneth Enjoyer 🗿
Jokes aside, the Idoneth are honestly just better-written Drukhari.
One thing I really like about Age of Sigmar is that the model design team went all out for the unique factions in the setting, and I think the idoneth deepkin is a wonderful example of this.
They don't need to worry about decades of lore explaining exactly why they have to limit certain aspects, or else suffer the wrath of neckbeards.
Oh great. So just shaft the fanbase
Bonereapers, Nighthaunt, Idoneth
Honestly AOS is on a roll with models
@@pogsothoth the daughter of khaine models is what finally sold me on AoS back in early 2nd edition
Watch a few 40k channels, but it's harder to find TH-camrs that do fantasy. Never knew about this faction, but glad I do now. Thanks a lot for the video
Ahah, the blood runs cold
We take our loot but don't get old
Yo, yo ho
Yo, yo ho
All hail, the mighty
He's arising from the deep
With tattered sails
and incredible tales
we're caught in endless seas.
c r a b noises
Well done as always. I don't know anything about warhammer, and I have no idea what's going on, but I sure am enjoying the content!
Basically the setting is about winning the warhammer and which ever faction wins it becomes the emperor
And then you need to collect the other 39,999 warhammers
to become the true james workshop
Damn, you got me acin up for these sea elves. Love your channel to death. Has really inspired me recently to try my hand at editing and practicing video shit.
God bless.
If I had my own Sea Elf unit it would definitely be a Narwal. Could be a heavy damage dealer.
When I was thinking about collecting minis before coming to my senses, I found these guys looking really interesting and didn't know shit about them. Really cool idea man, thanks for this video!
I really dont know why, but your warhammer videos are my favorites.
they dont get boring and i actually learn something new.
just wanted to let you know, thanks for the great content.
I really like his *"lore pros vs lore cons",* sections they're my favorite parts of his videos! (also usally make up the bulk of his videos too)
malarkey, a good name for a random blood angels curse given to fish people with big ears. I actually love these models, though I haven't gotten too many the turtle is especially spicy
TLDR: the deepkin are mind wiping soul stealing shark and eel riding pirates with cave drip. Tragically only my own homebrew lore has them talking in pirate accents.
Imagine a older namarti warrior teaching a bunch of young namarti kids, through *singing some sea shanties.*
*Older namarti:* Are you ready kids!?
*Young namarti children:* Aye, aye captain!
*Older namarti:* I can't hear YOU!
*Young namarti children:* Aye, aye CAPTAIN!!
*Older namarti:* Ooooohhhh...**sea shanty commences**
@@navilluscire2567 who’s hiding from Teclis under the sea?
EYE EYE CAPTAIN!
Who’s totally undefeated on turn three?
EYE EYE CAPTAIN.
If Nautilar nonsense is something you wish… then bring MSU eels and craps tons of fish!
I absolutely love your videos, and seeing the small edits becoming more common is the perfect cherry on top. Your vids on these AoS factions got me to look into AoS more seriously and think of picking up some models to paint
If you take a shot every time you hear "turtle", by the end of the video, you'd understand how that ocean bubble curse feels...and if that isn't immersion, I don't know what is
ah yes, another classic case of "idk if i actually would want to play as this faction but i really want that one model just to have." big turtle is my mood kindred
Gotta says. I loved the bombardment of sea puns. Never change man
Around elves, watch yourselves
I never cared to learn of the lore of AOS factions but you got me interested and I hope to hear more.
Why not?
@@krampusthestoryteller1416 It isn’t Fantasy
@@abyssbun444 In some ways it's better. Give it a try!
yes, the big turtle factions, featuring eels and damaged elven souls i guess
It would be great with the whole "Nagash going after them" thing if this lead to the rebirth of vampire pirates who hunt the idoneth, an army introduction partnerd with a more idoneth models as they try harder to fight back against the undead fleet
The Idoneth could even work in Endhammer, as some Elves who were transformed during the sinking of Ulthuan into blind, soulless husks fighting for survival.
you have a great sense of humor and I always am hyped to see a new video, keep up the great work my dude!
I honestly thought these guys were the vampire Coast when they first came out and to this day I'm still convinced they are a vampire faction till I see this video.
1) I'm surprised they are actually elf the high elfs and funny how they are an order version of the dark eldar.
2) Miss opportunity to make a vampire coast faction.
The usual Sunless Sea soundtrack usage seems is quite fitting here.
"Reject modernity, return to Big Turtle!" - some drunk Idoneth probably
I wish the Idoneth would be added to Old World as the Sea Elves or something like that
I am awaiting the day you talk about the greatest faction in 40k: the AdMech. Skitarii my beloved.
I wonder if there will be any toaster puns in That video?
Me too, AdMech and their army is just surprisingly cool. especially if you put cawl in the mix.
NOOOO!!!!
THEY FRIED MY BANANAS
Wet elf
Do you know how little that narrows it down?
I want to see a version of them but all in beach wear and with squirt guns.
Could probably kit bash that...somehow. Would be hilariously AWESOME to see!
I have a very strong desire to buy big turtle just to paint and display it in some sort of shrine of turtleyness
It's drip or drown, and the Idoneth can breathe underwater
Every time you said "Big Turtle" I thought briefly of a cabal of corporations with a strong pro-turtle agenda
But it's just GW, apparently
The newer Age of Sigmar factions have some of the best models GW has EVER made. I only hesitate on buying them because I;m not sure I can find other people who play it and because I'm worried that GW could can some of these factrions if they don't sell well as the game gets new editions. They ignore the Xeno factions in the 40k so what are the odds of them providing long term support to non-human factions in a game I'd wager is much smaller.
That's my fear also, right now it seems that atleast with AOS while certainly the Stormcast and Sigmar gets most of the love it isn't nearly as unbelievable biased as with 40k's Imperium and SPACE marines or even Warhammer Fantasy's insistance with ignoring the existence of almost anything that exists outside of the "Old World" (i.e. Fantasy NOT-Europe), with more particularly seemingly hating to acknowledge the existence of *the "Southern Realms"* and focused infuriatingly on basically just Fantasy *"NOT-Northern-Europe"* 98% of the time. Oh, and them basically shunning the entirety of the eastern hemisphere like they were some *"redheaded stepchildren"* for decades!
But anyway, little rant aside, *There is a real sense at a moment for a more evenly distributed amount of lore and story love in the AOS setting for all faction from GW.* (Stormcast not withstanding..)
That said I honestly hate that they named it Age of SIGMAR, like them basically saying f*ck everyone else, this is Sigmar's story or age. It just gives me that feeling that they'll ultimately treat every other character or faction in the world as secondary sidekicks to that dude's show...at best.
Every 3 months two new books and models drop for two factions a piece. Constant updates in white dwarf. If you build it they will come.
love that vampire coast theme is playing in the background
lore con: being featured in a gotrek novel
This video reminds me of why I picked up Idoneth as my first ever army. Thanks!
Marine biology Warhammer and payday? Now this is quality content
If Frankenstein's Monster was a pointy eared Cthulhu, it would be the Idoneth Deepkin.
They do have a similar tragic theme of trying to figure themselves out and having asholes for creators.
Thank you so much, perfect timing, I'm getting my buds into AoS and the Deepkin are a huge winner there.
So what are your thoughts on Nagash, since he came up more than a few times for this one.
I (big surprise seeing as I have an Ahriman pfp), personally have an unhealthy obsession with evil wizards
Fuckin love him. A lot of Warhammer Fantasy characters actually act out of a genuine love for their people. Karl Franz (praise be his name) says in a Total War voice line he’s done many morally questionable things for his country but it’s out of love for his nation and people he does it. Same for characters like Teclis, Volkmar, and arguably even some “evil” characters like Vlad con Carstein.
With that being said, in that context I love it when someone is just an unrelenting piece of shit like Nagash.
@@pancreasnowork9939 And a better vilain then the Chaos prick, since him ad to work out to have such power compare to the God who are bron already powerfull.
I personally love Nagash
@@pancreasnowork9939 Nagash is the neighbor who gets pissed off that you didn't inviinvite him to your barbecue and so feeds your dog a metric ton of laxatives and it shits itself to death in your house, he then will invite you to his barbecue.
I demand you get more views, after finding ya channel and getting into Warhammer and 40K you’ve been a delight.
Yeah these guys gave me the inspiration to make an Atlantis themed craftworld army, I got the eidolon of mathlann to kitbash with the avatar of khaine to get an avatar with a cool blood cape and trident
Love these breakdowns. Maybe an Aelf streak this time? Lumineth, Daughters, and Sylvaneth when? :P
Surprisingly Sylvaneth aren't elves they're tree/fey people
@@michaelsantamaria5295
I mean elves are fey, they've just been rebranded in popular media as fey...but what if they had somewhat functional societies. (baring BS magical nonsense..)
Finally more on that faction I kitbash my drukhari with for corsairs
You had me at big turtle
Flesh eater courts would make a nice episode
"The Blood Angels Black Rage only it ends in sexual assault". Made my damn day xD
The Idoneth also have THE model of all time…
Big Crab™️
People can hate on AoS all they want but the Idoneth are pretty sick.
Namor and the Atlantains feel similar to these water elfs. I wouldn't be surprised if you see more people come back to this video over the next few weeks.
Idoneths lore was written by a horror writer.
I was cracking up the entire time you were punning
Yay! He showed his true love for Bretonnia once again!
The Idoneth are seafaring, deep-sea beast riding pirate elves with water magic. I wish they could grow beards and wear big capes to really give off the pirate look.
If I had any substantial affection for AoS, I would definitely play Idoneth.
Also ++ for Big Turtle
Great video. Thanks mate!
I guess it finally happened. You've convinced me to switch to elves.
I'm just getting started with wargaming as a whole, but am super excited to kitbash some awuatic dinosaur models into alternative Allopexes and Leviadons!
Aww yeah, these guys are my favorite AOS faction
That model of the wizard with the Octopus is one of my favourite minis of all time
Can you do one on Nagash's IRS the Ossiarch Bone Reapers?
Do or don't with admech pweeze almighty master of GW bad jokes
He said that he would do a 50k special, then another AoS video and then would go back to 40k as usual.
@@ilosada2933 welp, a man can dream
I love the puns. We need more of those.
This army looks awesome 👏
0:53: Behold, Dog
big turtle is the biggest selling point I have ever seen for any Warhammer army.
i love you big turrtle!