Unfortunetly two weeks later and I'm still sidelined with the foot injury. It is getting better but very slowly. Thanks for your support everybody! And especially to my Patreon supporters: www.patreon.com/kylehateshiking/ Stephanie, Martin S., Duane, John K., Stephanie B., Mike D., Hunter B., TheUrbanCrone, Jason J., Annie E., Jane K., Alexis L., Bob C., Glenn L., Nate O., Matt, Madison E., Ryan M., Mary R., John A., Krysta A., Abby's Person, Nikki W., Don C., Joseph P., Victoria L., Dennis F., Lisa J., Robert S., Bernard K., Marc C., Daniel B., Frank H., Alex W., Joel A., Milo C., Jeff, McLean, Bennet B., Nick D., Krystie H., Ron G., Kevin W., Petite Hiker, Mo M., Eric A., Blain G., Malary H., Ian H., Brigette M., Brian S., Cory and Dory Adventures, Brittani H., Jim L., Michael H, Daniel B., Alec H., John B., Chris B.
Man, I hope you get better. I injured my foot 2 months ago and I still hurts. I'm still able to go hike 40 miles every weekend, but man it's painful. I hope you'll get better and keep on hiking.
I know exactly how you felt. In 2015 I rolled an ankle on the GR5 in the French Alps and had to hike about 15 km to the next town; most of which was down a very large mountain. By the time I got to the town campsite the pain had radiated all the way up to my knee, and I was in tears. I took 2 zero days and hobbled into town to get an ankle support from the pharmacy, then pushed on. I managed to go the week and a half to Nice, France but couldn't get to my final destination of Malaga Spain because of the injury. It was an epic trip with only the one incident.
Thanks for this video, Kyle, especially in light of the pain you were experiencing when you made it. I'm a native and lifelong resident of upstate NY and it was wonderful to see our own wilderness featured in one of your videos. You did it full justice and the camera made it possible for me to see it through a different perspective. As I write this, it's late springtime here and the Dacks are calling.
I think this vid did much to amp up your creds and listen, you are ALWAYS so together, so positive, and you have a total A plus rating with all of us! NOW we get to see this video, you were a tad grumpy, your foot hurt,’you were tired, and had no good grub to eat!! But you know what u did? YOU FINISHED. Big lesson for all of us. We LOVE Kyle!!
So I've never been a true hiker like you, never hiked the AT or any other "recognized" trails, but I have done 2 "unrecognized" trails. When I was young, I hiked into the Great Dismal Swamp, following the ditch that had been surveyed by our first president, Mr. Washington. It's all flat terrain, about 10 miles to "Lake Drummond", and 10 miles back, the humor coming from the fact that Mr. Washington, himself a young surveyor at the time, had his angle off just a little bit and his drainage ditch barely catches the edge of the lake. The other very short hike was a few years back around the lake at the foot of Table Rock State park in SC, which was about 2 or 3miles long, pretty much level terrain, but at 60 years old I did manage to do it. If I had an injured foot, I would have been in trouble. Glad you made it back in one piece.
Hey Kyle. As a sports medicine doctor and a fellow injured hiker, I hope things are getting better. Hope the running didn't set you up for a stress fracture, but I would think you would have noticed something towards the end of your running program. Two weeks and still problems means see a reputable orthopedic doc to be safe.
When I was a kid I jumped off a 8 foot roof onto asphalt and landed on my feet, my foot hurt for like 2 months afterwards but eventually stopped. Never went to a doctor, I figured someone else would have noticed if I needed to.
I don't get why people don't go to a doctor when they have clearly been injured. The doctor can differentiate between a simple sprain, a partial tear, a full rupture, or a hairline fracture. I'd swear, most cats get better medical care than people.
I could cry when the sun comes out and your in a green glade. I’ve seen so much wild life and had truly magical moments on the trail. Never again for me. I live thru your GoPro now. ☯️☮️💟
I dont know if you ended up figuring out what caused the foot injury, however i will add that i experienced my first foot injury in 39 years and after a 50mile foot race. I attributed it to my topo shoes which are very similar to your altra's. Zero drop shoes work well with ascents and descents, not so great on flats. Ive learned to alternate shoes depending on terrain. My chosen brand is hoka's for flat. Hope this was insightful.
Ouch! Loved being on this journey with you and thanks for sharing. As an Alaskan I chuckled at the part on the mosquito in your tent 😂. Haven’t seen a video focusing on you. Glad you made it safe ❤
That intro segment hit me hard, tbh. That exact same thing happened to me last year. I planned on hiking the tallest peak in Southern California (San Gorgonio), for Father's Day; and the first half of it went incredibly well, but on the way down, somehow, I injured both of my knees terribly. I ended up limping for about 9 miles down the mountain (It took around 6 hours). Over a year later, and my knees are still not the same, I need knee braces whenever I go hiking now. But hey, I succeeded! Hahaha
I hear that - years back when I was going up Mt. Washington, NH, I heard a "pop" in my right knee when I was about halfway up the summit cone on Tuckerman Ravine. I descended Tuckerman from the summit, and was in extreme pain on the descent. If i didn't have trekking poles, I would've been crawling (literally). As it was, I was contemplating crawling the last 1/4 mile back to Pinkham Notch as it was that bad, and a few times I stepped wrong (I averaged less than 1 mph for the descent from the summit as I could barely walk) and immediately fell down on the ground. For a few years afterward, I had to hike with a knee brace as it would always flare up going up/down mountains.
This dude named Xander Budnick cooks real meals at home, taco stuffings and such then dehydrates all of them including pasta. All he does is add water boil WALA. It saves him a ton of money, average cost of his big meals is 3 to 5 dollars. NOTE TO SELF: Get a dehydrator.
Brings back so many memories of my cranberry 50 ultra. What a miserably painful experience lol. We had so many similarities with trail conditions. Except I did the Beaverdam section in the middle of the night and it was mega hard to follow. Great vlog Kyle! I enjoyed watching you suffer like I did 😂😂. Oh and, I lost all 10 of my toenails and had an injury in my shin that prevented me from hiking for two months afterwards.. And many of my friends who did the ultra also had first time unexplainable injuries.
Wishing you all the best, and thanks for a great video. I'm heading up to the Northwest corner of the Adirondacks tomorrow morning for hiking and fishing.
My brother and I hiked through a section of Dolly Sods doing the circumnavigation during rain after a snow melt and it was all flooded like you had to go through. I normally hike in Altras, but something made me take my waterproof hiking boots and and waterproof socks (it was cold). That was a lucky decision because my feet stayed pretty dry and warm. Also look into a professional running shoe fitting. I went back and saw you are trail running. You could have a stress fracture from improper support or you may have increased your running volume too much trying to keep up with Flossie. Use the 10% rule and don’t increase your week over week mileage by more than 10%.
My buddy had a similar experience on the Loyalsok Trail in PA. We had to cut it short, but had to hike 8+ miles in rough terrain to get to a place where we could get a ride back to the truck. Get that foot looked at . I hope you feel better.
Kyle man. I love the new podcast Trail Tails. I actually listen to it at night when Im camping in my hammock so i don't hear the wild animals that are walking around me looking at the floating blue breakfast burrito. So to be honest at the point of discovering your injury I would have turned around taking a Zero for the episode. Especially if someone wasn't with me. 20 miles back to the car pre injury is safer than 30 miles mid injury. The video could have been a lesson on how most trips never turn out as planned. However, in the famous words of Patagonia founder Yvon Chouinard "Its not an adventure, until something goes wrong." I've solo backpacked only a couple times and the reason is I'm too paranoid of injury and bears. I was hammock camping right next to a river in the Sequoias and heard something actually walking in the river. Not a squirrel, or a little bird but something big enough to be splashing the water. Never again. So giving advise to an experienced solo hiker is a little daunting however as the king of whats the worst that could happen, here are some things I suggest for every solo hiker should utilize is variable conditions. I bring multiple dehydrated meals but only bring one original boil bag. I take the other meals and put them in lightweight ziplock bags so I can portion how hungry I am eliminating left overs and food waste. Then I just keep washing and reusing the same primary bag. You're saving about 13 grams x every dehydrated meal of just bag to carry out. I sealed a half eaten Mountain House Pad Thai one night and when I opened it up in the morning it smelled like a Yak had died in it. Not that I've smelled a dead Yak before but I assume it would have the same consistency in foulness. BTW the Pad Thai is amazing though. 1st place is the Pakit Gourmet All American Works Burger. It's legit. Not a sponsored suggestion......but wish it was. @pakitgourmet Bring a lightweight ankle brace. It may not have helped on this one but hiking solo or with a friend you never know.That extra weight for the brace seems justifiable and would come in clutch when you needed it the most. I backpacked Coyote Gulch in Utah for my 3rd time and with about 30 river crossings bringing a pair of 1mm neoprene socks was clutch especially in the rain. At least keeps your feet warm. I purchased the Hammock Gear 11ft Palace Tarp and its now a staple for every trip. It weighs 9oz. When it rains I literally have a small apartment to hang out in. Gone are the days I would be stuck in my tent at noon during a rainstorm. I rock the hammock but if you bring the tent just ditch the rainfly and bring the 9oz tarp. Not a sponsored pitch but I do wish is was......@hammockgear Last if it's going to be cold weather in any way shape or form, I always bring a coffee thermos. I know I know ultralight hikers are giving me a big fuck you right now but on demand hot coffee is worth every oz. Consider the weight an extra battery battery pack. Except fuel for the soul. Keep hustlin bro and would be down to interview you at my film studio in LA sometime in the future. I bet you have some great stories.
your slog through the beaver pond brought back memories of my hike up Mt. Isolation, finishing my 48 4,000 footers in NH. There was a section of the Rocky Branch Trail in which I was rock hopping/walking through a stream and no way to avoid it. On the way back I said screw it and just walked through the water, I had dry socks and shoes at the car. I bring a fresh change of clothes on all my hikes.
I started having foot problems and it turns out my calf muscles were too tight. They tighten up when you get older and when you exercise. When this happens, it screws up your whole foot. For me it was the top of the foot. Stretching the calf muscles keeps it from happening. When I slack off, it comes back. Good luck.
It happens to the best of us. While on my thru-hike of the tahoe rim trail last week, 100 miles in i pulled a muscle in my lower back and i had to pull off trail and head home. Keep strong. Shit happens
This past weekend trying to summit mount Marcy, Algonquin, and a few other 46ers. SO MUCH SNOW!! We made it up Marcy but had no time to continue and had to scrap the plans and head back down. You’re videos helped us out so so much. This was mine and my wife’s first backpacking trip EVER! Video on my channel about the experience coming soon! Keep inspiring man!
I like mres Lighter, save gas for making fresh water or melt snow in emergency Just a personal preference I’m sure you’ve tried a lot of things as well
I hiked the Cranberry 50 a few years ago. Its a beautiful area, and a well done trail. Those beaver dams though. There is about a mile of them one right after the other. They suck. We hiked the trail in the opposite direction, so the beaver dams were on our last day which wasn't too bad. Good luck with your recovery, hope it heals fast.
Make sure and get it checked out. It could be something that's easy to fix but really bad if it doesn't get addressed. Voice of experience here. I've had some issues with a tendon in my ankle lately that I ignored thinking it will get better. Kind of like your foot, it just seemed to start hurting and I have no clue what I did to it. It didn't get better and I finally saw the doc. Now it's taking forever but probably could have been better in a few weeks if I had started treatment early on.
Hope the foot is feeling better. Definitely been there with grand plans that didn't work out as expected. I need to keep getting my fat behind in better shape so I can have more fun on the trails. The mountains are definitely calling my name today.
Man ya got me itchin for a 3 day hike!! I hike Zaleski State Forest occasionally. One of the things I love is the post hike dip at the nearby lake beach!
Cranberry Lake 50 is on my to do list. Where's the joint you finished up with the burger and beer? Raquette Brewing in Tupper Lake has some good brews.
awe im sorry you hurt your foot... hope you wrapped it up for some added stability and elevated it when u got home from burgers... stay safe - LOVE your content
Sorry to hear about your foot man!! The adirondacks are usually amazing! Its in my back yard! My uncle has hiked the cranberry lake 50 off and on for years. He has a camp up there. Fall time is the best! Much drier that time of year. I was actually up camping 4th lake on 4th of july weekend too and it rained on us almost the entire time. But my tent stayed bone dry thank god! It can def be hit or miss. I really want to hike the NPT (Northville Placid Trail)! Aprox 138 miles long. Thought about doing a SOBO too. Not sure though. Hard to get that many days off work but that trail is beautiful as im sure you have heard. I'm working on doing all the fire tower challenge right now. I have about half of them done. Stay safe man! Hike on!!
I saw a hack where you heat up rocks & then put it in your shoes after they get wet & it's supposed to dry them. Does this actually work? Great video! Beautiful lake!
Few things are more satisfying when you are having a difficult (not near death) time in the backcountry than reading about a worse trip that someone survived. I recommend Two Years Before The Mast and Running The Amazon.
@0:13 Is that you Joran van der Sloot? Gimme a few days! I wanna make you a trail mystery. :p What's wrong with you, Kyle??? New Yawk?? I should search you for the White Mountains in winter. ;). Bro, I love your sarcasm!!!
Hi Kyle. You should come back to Upstate New York and Hike the Finger Lakes Trail. It's absolutely gorgeous you would love it. Plus it's like 500 miles long
I really like the rice variety of peak refuel over the pastas. I hope your foot is doing better. I'm on patreon so already knew this video was coming, I really like how you decided to present this :)
Hey Kyle. Next time you pass through Tupper Lake stop and say hi and join me for a drink at Raquette River Brewery. I wouldn’t mind swapping more trail tales again with you. I did the CL50 in early September a couple years ago and that stretch between High Falls and your TH was still pretty full of mosquitoes but the beaver dams weren’t as bad. Sorry about the foot. I know first hand it sucks. I lost a couple months of outdoor time and had 9 weeks of PT from an ankle injury this spring. Hope you get better and back on the trail soon.
Noticed you’re from Burlington, VT. Also from there and did this loop a couple years ago. Your video brought back all my memories from the trip (except I did it clockwise).
Should make up a small sit sheet (say that 5 times fast!)😁 of uncoated nylon (so it absorbs Permethrin), and hose it down with the stuff. I used a friend's old silnylon solo tent footprint for the job on my spring hike this year, and, since silnylon tends to absorb water, I figured that it would absorb Permethrin, which it did. No ticks found all the month I was out.
Glad you didn't need a helicopter, good job on that. Obviously I don't know why you got injured but, I had a pair of lone peaks that wrecked my feet on the foothills trail, little padding, no support. I now use topo ultraventure's, they're a little heavier but my feet love them.
I had sore feet anything over 10 miles. Bought a pair of Hoka One before I went to the smokies this spring. Life changer. I now have those mid speedgoats in goretex and the low cut non goretex of the same shoe. I had just assumed foot pain was part of the deal. It doesn't have to be. Buy good shoes until you find what works, folks.
I member my knee starting to go in the backcountry of Yosemite in the offseason (back behind half dome)... What I did is I got rid of everything I didn't absolutely need to get back to trailhead. I just stashed it really good and came back for it.
Hope you're feeling better Kyle. Sprained my ankle on Lion's Head coming down Mt. Washington. Bad. Had to hike on it to Hermit Lake shelter. Caretaker didn't belive me until he saw the grapefruit that was my ankle. My wife and I have a stash of Mountain House, but we've been using Idahoan mashed potatoes and starkist chicken packets or spam. Way cheaper. Thanks for the reviews.
@@KyleHatesHiking I was 21 or 22 almost 35 years ago. It took at least a month. And I think I got giardia drinking from a puddle at the top of Webster Cliffs trail from earlier in the same trip. My stomach was rumbly for a month. I stayed at Hermit Lake shelters for two nights then the caretaker carried my pack and I limped down the ski trail to my car. Hope your foot heals quickly.
Thank you for sharing your adventure. Despite the injury, you did a great job with the video. As for the foot, let me guess - Stress fracture. Now you are in an ortho boot. Been there, done that. You can go an amazingly long way on a broken foot. RICE it ... rest, ice, compression, elevation. Do as the dr tells you ;) You will be better soon. I know how much it sucks to be sidelined (broken ankle, torn meniscus ... I HOPE I will be able to hike again in 15 weeks). So, I might be making some dehy from a new backpacker's cookbook I got. You want me to send you a meal or two to save you from the commercial stuff?
Another great video Kyle. I can relate to foot issues on trail, I had to cut the MSG short. I would love to do this trail at some point. I hope you rest up and get back on trail soon!
Every time I sign up for a hundred miler it seems like a great idea. At the start line it still seems good. At miler thirty, still ok-ish. At mile 50, this is starting to suck. Mile 70, WTF I still have 50k left. Mile 80 every goddamn thing hurts. MIle 100, where the eff is the finish?? Mile 102, finish, say something like “I’m never doing this again!!” Monday morning, search for rate next race and sign up. It’s good knowing there are other people out there with broken brains LOL!!!!
I once hiked three miles up my favorite mini mountain in Bama and right after turning around to come down, I started running and broke a big toe on a tiny rock lip obscured by vegetation. That was a major hassle but never scary per se. The idea of being more seriously hurt, much farther out, gets exponentially scarier the more i think about it.
You could have bailed out in 7.1 via the other side of the High Falls Loop trail back to Otto's Abode. It was pretty cool seeing the dams they are much wetter than they were in May.
Yeah I guess I could have. But then I still wouldn't of been to my car and it would have been just as much of a headache to get back at that point (I think?)
@@KyleHatesHiking Idk if you met Bo, but he and a few other locals are around a lot, I'm sure someone would give a ride to an injured hiker. Wanakena is such a cool little town.
This hike looks as shitty as mine last weekend in the San Isabel National Forest. However if it weren't for the bad ones, we wouldn't know the good hikes. Good job making the best out of a bad situation.
My neck of the woods. I volunteer with the NYS DEC Search and Rescue team and every year many are “plucked” off that trail. Foot injuries are no joke….mine took 18 months!!! Hoping for a quick recovery. Oh, use vicks to keep the bugs away!!
Damn dude! The Cranberry Lake 50 is where good feet go to die, I think! The first time I did the CL50 was in early June 2017, and we're planning on heading out this October. I learned a value lesson about gangrene, Gore-Tex, and boot sizing, so I'm hoping this years trip is less enlightening ;) You're 100% right -- once you hit that back section of the trail on the S/SE side of the lake, you're in the thick of it, and there's no place to bail out if you need to. Glad to see you made it out "OK" but bummed that you're still hurting ...
Awesome video… can so relate as I nearly crawled across the Canadian line on the Vermont Long trail with a broken bone in my left foot and sprained right ankle… and I wasn’t quitting 😊as it happened in my last 20 miles 🙄 forgetaboutit… ibuprofen suck it up buttercup Love your videos ❤️
Gonna have to start calling you Good Luck Kyle. Every time you talked about how it probably can’t get worse it does :( I hope I don’t come off as preachy but I think you would benefit from getting yourself a cork ball to roll on your foot during hiking breaks. It sounds like planar fasciitis or a tendon strain on the trip. I’m getting into my later 30s now and I have to keep stretched and warmed up for each hike. Each time I take a break for lunch, I get my shoes off, put my feet up for a bit and then roll the bottoms of my feet on a cork ball. I tend to do about five minutes of walking backwards in a small circle to warm up my knees each morning. Hiking with a pack can strain your posterior chain, especially if you have some weaknesses or overcompensation in some part of it. I’d check out the foot collective and knees over toes guy for some stretching and strengthening methods. Again hope it’s not too preachy and hope you heal up quick man. PS the flag shots came out good.
Once again a KHH video masterpiece... well, maybe not a masterpiece but entertaining! OK, Kyle, Spray the bug juice into your hand and then "it rubs it on the skin." That's my old guy experience tip for the day... Happy Trails!
I been doing a solo 4 days solo up river to highfalls off the cranberry lake trail.i love how secluded you are but if your Hurt your on your own.good luck out there
So much rain, reminds me of hiking in my home country. Starting to wonder why I even miss it 😂 You held up great though, definitely deserved that cheese burger 💪🏻 Watching this at 8AM and thinking about ordering one right now 😇
For some reason this video just now showed up in my TH-cam feed. I feel this so much…then constant wet feet. My left foot big toe nail has still not recovered from that Cranberry 50 hike from 3 years ago, but we did it in August instead. I also still have horrible memories of the taste of filtered water along that hike…even flavored with nuun/liquid iv 🤮
I had plantar fasciitis. It was extremely painful. My husband and I were 62 and 68 years respectively and we were in training for the Camino de Santiago, which as you probably know is doable for people our age. We had also had knee and hip replacements 18 months prior and we were testing our new joints. We did the full 800 km in September 2018. I found that the constant walking, on mostly flat ground proved to be the key, for me, in curing my fasciitis. It has never returned.
Dude, I usually f**k with you in the comments but you really showed your grit here. 30+ miles with an injury? That's pretty badass. Hope you get better soon! BTW, I also saw your guest appearance in Jeremiah Stringer's video.
Zero-drop shoes are tricky; unless you wear them all the time you really have to get used to them gradually, starting with short walks/runs and working your way up to big miles much more slowly than you'd think. Do you think that might be part of it?
I know i always give you a hard time in the comment section but get better soon. As for the video i think you're on to something here with the narration. Big fan of that. Congrats on breaking 20k.
I’ve been having foot issues on longer distances this year, so I can totally sympathize with the “Ow! Ow! Ow!” on every step. I’ve had to cut a couple trips short this year because of my feet. I’ve decided to try barefoot shoes to try and strengthen my feet. Of course, I’m an idiot, so I didn’t give myself time to transition properly. I jumped right into a Presidential traverse wearing them, so that kinda hurt, lol. I totally knew better but did it anyway. But I’m hoping that if I take it a little easier for a bit in these new shoes, my feet will get stronger and I won’t have problems with them anymore. Hope your feet recover soon, Kyle!
Been there, done that! I don't carry anything heavier than a daypack with minimalist shoes on. I normally wear Altra Lone Peaks with Powerstep orthotics, but have found that I like the feel and mobility of New Balance Minimus shoes on short hikes: It's like a foot massage unless the rocks are like AT rocks in Pennsylvania or the Presidentials. Carry on!
Unfortunetly two weeks later and I'm still sidelined with the foot injury. It is getting better but very slowly. Thanks for your support everybody! And especially to my Patreon supporters: www.patreon.com/kylehateshiking/
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Man, feet are everything. I hope you bounce back quickly.
Glad to support your endeavors.
So what exactly is wrong with your foot ?
Man, I hope you get better. I injured my foot 2 months ago and I still hurts. I'm still able to go hike 40 miles every weekend, but man it's painful. I hope you'll get better and keep on hiking.
Any idea what's wrong with your foot?
I know exactly how you felt. In 2015 I rolled an ankle on the GR5 in the French Alps and had to hike about 15 km to the next town; most of which was down a very large mountain. By the time I got to the town campsite the pain had radiated all the way up to my knee, and I was in tears. I took 2 zero days and hobbled into town to get an ankle support from the pharmacy, then pushed on. I managed to go the week and a half to Nice, France but couldn't get to my final destination of Malaga Spain because of the injury. It was an epic trip with only the one incident.
Thanks for this video, Kyle, especially in light of the pain you were experiencing when you made it. I'm a native and lifelong resident of upstate NY and it was wonderful to see our own wilderness featured in one of your videos. You did it full justice and the camera made it possible for me to see it through a different perspective. As I write this, it's late springtime here and the Dacks are calling.
You have a great format an great attitude. Love your videos
I think this vid did much to amp up your creds and listen, you are ALWAYS so together, so positive, and you have a total A plus rating with all of us! NOW we get to see this video, you were a tad grumpy, your foot hurt,’you were tired, and had no good grub to eat!! But you know what u did? YOU FINISHED. Big lesson for all of us. We LOVE Kyle!!
So I've never been a true hiker like you, never hiked the AT or any other "recognized" trails, but I have done 2 "unrecognized" trails. When I was young, I hiked into the Great Dismal Swamp, following the ditch that had been surveyed by our first president, Mr. Washington. It's all flat terrain, about 10 miles to "Lake Drummond", and 10 miles back, the humor coming from the fact that Mr. Washington, himself a young surveyor at the time, had his angle off just a little bit and his drainage ditch barely catches the edge of the lake. The other very short hike was a few years back around the lake at the foot of Table Rock State park in SC, which was about 2 or 3miles long, pretty much level terrain, but at 60 years old I did manage to do it. If I had an injured foot, I would have been in trouble. Glad you made it back in one piece.
You're brave!! There are so many mosquitos back in there.
Hey Kyle. As a sports medicine doctor and a fellow injured hiker, I hope things are getting better. Hope the running didn't set you up for a stress fracture, but I would think you would have noticed something towards the end of your running program. Two weeks and still problems means see a reputable orthopedic doc to be safe.
When I was a kid I jumped off a 8 foot roof onto asphalt and landed on my feet, my foot hurt for like 2 months afterwards but eventually stopped. Never went to a doctor, I figured someone else would have noticed if I needed to.
I don't get why people don't go to a doctor when they have clearly been injured. The doctor can differentiate between a simple sprain, a partial tear, a full rupture, or a hairline fracture.
I'd swear, most cats get better medical care than people.
@@CRuM770$$$$$$$$$& we’re tough. Raised on mud, beer and second hand smoke.
@@nancyst.john-smith3891 at least until you get old and each injury can predict a different kind of weather which you will invariably complain about.
@@CRuM770 hahaha! I’m 68! I can’t predict the weather, but I can’t hike anymore, either. It’s swimming now….
Great video. Thanks for sharing
I could cry when the sun comes out and your in a green glade. I’ve seen so much wild life and had truly magical moments on the trail. Never again for me. I live thru your GoPro now. ☯️☮️💟
I dont know if you ended up figuring out what caused the foot injury, however i will add that i experienced my first foot injury in 39 years and after a 50mile foot race. I attributed it to my topo shoes which are very similar to your altra's. Zero drop shoes work well with ascents and descents, not so great on flats. Ive learned to alternate shoes depending on terrain. My chosen brand is hoka's for flat. Hope this was insightful.
Sick trip, thanks for toughing it out and sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Ouch! Loved being on this journey with you and thanks for sharing. As an Alaskan I chuckled at the part on the mosquito in your tent 😂. Haven’t seen a video focusing on you. Glad you made it safe ❤
That intro segment hit me hard, tbh. That exact same thing happened to me last year. I planned on hiking the tallest peak in Southern California (San Gorgonio), for Father's Day; and the first half of it went incredibly well, but on the way down, somehow, I injured both of my knees terribly. I ended up limping for about 9 miles down the mountain (It took around 6 hours). Over a year later, and my knees are still not the same, I need knee braces whenever I go hiking now.
But hey, I succeeded! Hahaha
I hear that - years back when I was going up Mt. Washington, NH, I heard a "pop" in my right knee when I was about halfway up the summit cone on Tuckerman Ravine. I descended Tuckerman from the summit, and was in extreme pain on the descent. If i didn't have trekking poles, I would've been crawling (literally). As it was, I was contemplating crawling the last 1/4 mile back to Pinkham Notch as it was that bad, and a few times I stepped wrong (I averaged less than 1 mph for the descent from the summit as I could barely walk) and immediately fell down on the ground. For a few years afterward, I had to hike with a knee brace as it would always flare up going up/down mountains.
This dude named Xander Budnick cooks real meals at home, taco stuffings and such then dehydrates all of them including pasta. All he does is add water boil WALA. It saves him a ton of money, average cost of his big meals is 3 to 5 dollars. NOTE TO SELF: Get a dehydrator.
Great videos. Keep it up your going a long way brother!!!!!!
Dang man, sorry to hear about this! Good luck with your recovery!
Great tunes, great video. Digging this format! 👍
I'm sorry to hear that, you'll be alright 😊
Awesome video thanks for posting and sharing your trip!
The Tillamook zero sugar jerky is terrible. As an Oregonian, sorry you had to suffer through that. Their other jerky options are pretty good.
Brings back so many memories of my cranberry 50 ultra. What a miserably painful experience lol. We had so many similarities with trail conditions. Except I did the Beaverdam section in the middle of the night and it was mega hard to follow. Great vlog Kyle! I enjoyed watching you suffer like I did 😂😂. Oh and, I lost all 10 of my toenails and had an injury in my shin that prevented me from hiking for two months afterwards.. And many of my friends who did the ultra also had first time unexplainable injuries.
I thought this was one of your best videos. The voice over narrative at the start and music choices were great.
Thank you so much Kathleen! Such a nice compliment
Great video bro. Congrats on finishing strong.
Thank you!!
Wishing you all the best, and thanks for a great video. I'm heading up to the Northwest corner of the Adirondacks tomorrow morning for hiking and fishing.
Enjoy!!
My brother and I hiked through a section of Dolly Sods doing the circumnavigation during rain after a snow melt and it was all flooded like you had to go through. I normally hike in Altras, but something made me take my waterproof hiking boots and and waterproof socks (it was cold). That was a lucky decision because my feet stayed pretty dry and warm.
Also look into a professional running shoe fitting. I went back and saw you are trail running. You could have a stress fracture from improper support or you may have increased your running volume too much trying to keep up with Flossie. Use the 10% rule and don’t increase your week over week mileage by more than 10%.
My buddy had a similar experience on the Loyalsok Trail in PA. We had to cut it short, but had to hike 8+ miles in rough terrain to get to a place where we could get a ride back to the truck. Get that foot looked at . I hope you feel better.
Kyle man. I love the new podcast Trail Tails. I actually listen to it at night when Im camping in my hammock so i don't hear the wild animals that are walking around me looking at the floating blue breakfast burrito.
So to be honest at the point of discovering your injury I would have turned around taking a Zero for the episode. Especially if someone wasn't with me. 20 miles back to the car pre injury is safer than 30 miles mid injury. The video could have been a lesson on how most trips never turn out as planned. However, in the famous words of Patagonia founder Yvon Chouinard "Its not an adventure, until something goes wrong."
I've solo backpacked only a couple times and the reason is I'm too paranoid of injury and bears. I was hammock camping right next to a river in the Sequoias and heard something actually walking in the river. Not a squirrel, or a little bird but something big enough to be splashing the water. Never again.
So giving advise to an experienced solo hiker is a little daunting however as the king of whats the worst that could happen, here are some things I suggest for every solo hiker should utilize is variable conditions.
I bring multiple dehydrated meals but only bring one original boil bag. I take the other meals and put them in lightweight ziplock bags so I can portion how hungry I am eliminating left overs and food waste. Then I just keep washing and reusing the same primary bag. You're saving about 13 grams x every dehydrated meal of just bag to carry out.
I sealed a half eaten Mountain House Pad Thai one night and when I opened it up in the morning it smelled like a Yak had died in it. Not that I've smelled a dead Yak before but I assume it would have the same consistency in foulness. BTW the Pad Thai is amazing though. 1st place is the Pakit Gourmet All American Works Burger. It's legit.
Not a sponsored suggestion......but wish it was. @pakitgourmet
Bring a lightweight ankle brace. It may not have helped on this one but hiking solo or with a friend you never know.That extra weight for the brace seems justifiable and would come in clutch when you needed it the most.
I backpacked Coyote Gulch in Utah for my 3rd time and with about 30 river crossings bringing a pair of 1mm neoprene socks was clutch especially in the rain. At least keeps your feet warm.
I purchased the Hammock Gear 11ft Palace Tarp and its now a staple for every trip. It weighs 9oz. When it rains I literally have a small apartment to hang out in. Gone are the days I would be stuck in my tent at noon during a rainstorm. I rock the hammock but if you bring the tent just ditch the rainfly and bring the 9oz tarp. Not a sponsored pitch but I do wish is was......@hammockgear
Last if it's going to be cold weather in any way shape or form, I always bring a coffee thermos. I know I know ultralight hikers are giving me a big fuck you right now but on demand hot coffee is worth every oz. Consider the weight an extra battery battery pack. Except fuel for the soul.
Keep hustlin bro and would be down to interview you at my film studio in LA sometime in the future. I bet you have some great stories.
That beaver dam area looked tough. Imagine hike a biking through these kinds of trails.
your slog through the beaver pond brought back memories of my hike up Mt. Isolation, finishing my 48 4,000 footers in NH. There was a section of the Rocky Branch Trail in which I was rock hopping/walking through a stream and no way to avoid it. On the way back I said screw it and just walked through the water, I had dry socks and shoes at the car. I bring a fresh change of clothes on all my hikes.
I loved this video. Typical KHH humor but also showcases your talent at making great quality content.
Still a cool vid man! This makes ya a better hiker!!! Hope you have a speedy recovery bud also love the music in this
RRG! 🤣
@@BearTrekAdventures best place of all time
@@theamericanhiker9655 I'll have to check it out one of these days. First thing I think of when I see your channel name :)
I started having foot problems and it turns out my calf muscles were too tight. They tighten up when you get older and when you exercise. When this happens, it screws up your whole foot. For me it was the top of the foot. Stretching the calf muscles keeps it from happening. When I slack off, it comes back. Good luck.
So true about stretching the calf muscles to help avoid foot pain.
Whenever I do distance hikes I always get what I’ve been told is “shin splints” the muscles right on the outside of my shins gets so tight & aches.
@@cailin5309 Me too.
It’s all about stretching when we get older
Bravo well done sir....I'm from upstate new York so this video was a nice watching.....
It happens to the best of us. While on my thru-hike of the tahoe rim trail last week, 100 miles in i pulled a muscle in my lower back and i had to pull off trail and head home. Keep strong. Shit happens
going alone is stupid
This past weekend trying to summit mount Marcy, Algonquin, and a few other 46ers. SO MUCH SNOW!! We made it up Marcy but had no time to continue and had to scrap the plans and head back down. You’re videos helped us out so so much. This was mine and my wife’s first backpacking trip EVER!
Video on my channel about the experience coming soon! Keep inspiring man!
I like mres
Lighter, save gas for making fresh water or melt snow in emergency
Just a personal preference I’m sure you’ve tried a lot of things as well
That lakeside campsite was cool
I hiked the Cranberry 50 a few years ago. Its a beautiful area, and a well done trail. Those beaver dams though. There is about a mile of them one right after the other. They suck. We hiked the trail in the opposite direction, so the beaver dams were on our last day which wasn't too bad. Good luck with your recovery, hope it heals fast.
That "ow! ow!" with every step feels familiar. Definitely had a similar experience. You handled it well!
Thank you!
Make sure and get it checked out. It could be something that's easy to fix but really bad if it doesn't get addressed. Voice of experience here. I've had some issues with a tendon in my ankle lately that I ignored thinking it will get better. Kind of like your foot, it just seemed to start hurting and I have no clue what I did to it. It didn't get better and I finally saw the doc. Now it's taking forever but probably could have been better in a few weeks if I had started treatment early on.
Hope the foot is feeling better. Definitely been there with grand plans that didn't work out as expected. I need to keep getting my fat behind in better shape so I can have more fun on the trails. The mountains are definitely calling my name today.
Man ya got me itchin for a 3 day hike!! I hike Zaleski State Forest occasionally. One of the things I love is the post hike dip at the nearby lake beach!
I like the music and editing in this video. I also like watching you hike like this. It presents more of a story, if that makes sense.
Cranberry Lake 50 is on my to do list.
Where's the joint you finished up with the burger and beer? Raquette Brewing in Tupper Lake has some good brews.
It was little Italy
Thank you for sharing your video
Thank you for watching!
Great storytelling with this one Kyle.
Thanks!!
awe im sorry you hurt your foot... hope you wrapped it up for some added stability and elevated it when u got home from burgers... stay safe - LOVE your content
When the trip ain’t fun anymore and you just wanna go home already been there
Sorry to hear about your foot man!! The adirondacks are usually amazing! Its in my back yard! My uncle has hiked the cranberry lake 50 off and on for years. He has a camp up there. Fall time is the best! Much drier that time of year. I was actually up camping 4th lake on 4th of july weekend too and it rained on us almost the entire time. But my tent stayed bone dry thank god! It can def be hit or miss. I really want to hike the NPT (Northville Placid Trail)! Aprox 138 miles long. Thought about doing a SOBO too. Not sure though. Hard to get that many days off work but that trail is beautiful as im sure you have heard. I'm working on doing all the fire tower challenge right now. I have about half of them done. Stay safe man! Hike on!!
I saw a hack where you heat up rocks & then put it in your shoes after they get wet & it's supposed to dry them. Does this actually work? Great video! Beautiful lake!
Few things are more satisfying when you are having a difficult (not near death) time in the backcountry than reading about a worse trip that someone survived. I recommend Two Years Before The Mast and Running The Amazon.
@0:13 Is that you Joran van der Sloot? Gimme a few days! I wanna make you a trail mystery. :p What's wrong with you, Kyle??? New Yawk?? I should search you for the White Mountains in winter. ;). Bro, I love your sarcasm!!!
Hi Kyle. You should come back to Upstate New York and Hike the Finger Lakes Trail. It's absolutely gorgeous you would love it. Plus it's like 500 miles long
I really like the rice variety of peak refuel over the pastas. I hope your foot is doing better. I'm on patreon so already knew this video was coming, I really like how you decided to present this :)
Hey Kyle. Next time you pass through Tupper Lake stop and say hi and join me for a drink at Raquette River Brewery. I wouldn’t mind swapping more trail tales again with you. I did the CL50 in early September a couple years ago and that stretch between High Falls and your TH was still pretty full of mosquitoes but the beaver dams weren’t as bad. Sorry about the foot. I know first hand it sucks. I lost a couple months of outdoor time and had 9 weeks of PT from an ankle injury this spring. Hope you get better and back on the trail soon.
Noticed you’re from Burlington, VT. Also from there and did this loop a couple years ago. Your video brought back all my memories from the trip (except I did it clockwise).
Shorts in that grass with the ticks. I just chills looking at it.
Should make up a small sit sheet (say that 5 times fast!)😁 of uncoated nylon (so it absorbs Permethrin), and hose it down with the stuff. I used a friend's old silnylon solo tent footprint for the job on my spring hike this year, and, since silnylon tends to absorb water, I figured that it would absorb Permethrin, which it did. No ticks found all the month I was out.
@@danielkutcher5704 How do u use the sheet? Wrap it around you when you walk through tall grass?
Great job with the drama on the trails.
😂😂
Glad you didn't need a helicopter, good job on that. Obviously I don't know why you got injured but, I had a pair of lone peaks that wrecked my feet on the foothills trail, little padding, no support. I now use topo ultraventure's, they're a little heavier but my feet love them.
I had sore feet anything over 10 miles. Bought a pair of Hoka One before I went to the smokies this spring. Life changer. I now have those mid speedgoats in goretex and the low cut non goretex of the same shoe. I had just assumed foot pain was part of the deal. It doesn't have to be. Buy good shoes until you find what works, folks.
Yeah maybe it was the shoes. Might have to go back to the Wildcats, we will see.
Big second on the Topo Ultraventures. Currently 2 months into my PCT thru-hike, switched from lone peaks in Bishop CA and haven’t looked back.
I member my knee starting to go in the backcountry of Yosemite in the offseason (back behind half dome)... What I did is I got rid of everything I didn't absolutely need to get back to trailhead. I just stashed it really good and came back for it.
Be safe on your travels...Love ya Bro!!
Hope you're feeling better Kyle. Sprained my ankle on Lion's Head coming down Mt. Washington. Bad. Had to hike on it to Hermit Lake shelter. Caretaker didn't belive me until he saw the grapefruit that was my ankle. My wife and I have a stash of Mountain House, but we've been using Idahoan mashed potatoes and starkist chicken packets or spam. Way cheaper. Thanks for the reviews.
Sounds rough! Hope it recovered fast for you
@@KyleHatesHiking I was 21 or 22 almost 35 years ago. It took at least a month. And I think I got giardia drinking from a puddle at the top of Webster Cliffs trail from earlier in the same trip. My stomach was rumbly for a month. I stayed at Hermit Lake shelters for two nights then the caretaker carried my pack and I limped down the ski trail to my car. Hope your foot heals quickly.
Did I see my hiking poles in the back of your car 😂😂
My goodness that is one wet trail
The Lake was beautiful bro.
Hope that foot is ok 👍🏻👊🏻
hahahaha !
Kyle, great video. You need to get back to doing videos like this one every so often. It would be good to see.
Thank you for sharing your adventure. Despite the injury, you did a great job with the video.
As for the foot, let me guess - Stress fracture. Now you are in an ortho boot. Been there, done that. You can go an amazingly long way on a broken foot.
RICE it ... rest, ice, compression, elevation. Do as the dr tells you ;) You will be better soon.
I know how much it sucks to be sidelined (broken ankle, torn meniscus ... I HOPE I will be able to hike again in 15 weeks).
So, I might be making some dehy from a new backpacker's cookbook I got. You want me to send you a meal or two to save you from the commercial stuff?
Sorry your return visit wasn't better! Recently diagnosed with patella alta so its been frustrating when the rest of my body feels up for the miles
I'd like to get out there and do that hike someday. Injuries on trail suck, bad. Just a random stove in the woods hahaha
Yeah man you should do it!
Another great video Kyle. I can relate to foot issues on trail, I had to cut the MSG short. I would love to do this trail at some point. I hope you rest up and get back on trail soon!
Every time I sign up for a hundred miler it seems like a great idea. At the start line it still seems good. At miler thirty, still ok-ish. At mile 50, this is starting to suck. Mile 70, WTF I still have 50k left.
Mile 80 every goddamn thing hurts.
MIle 100, where the eff is the finish?? Mile 102, finish, say something like “I’m never doing this again!!”
Monday morning, search for rate next race and sign up.
It’s good knowing there are other people out there with broken brains LOL!!!!
I once hiked three miles up my favorite mini mountain in Bama and right after turning around to come down, I started running and broke a big toe on a tiny rock lip obscured by vegetation. That was a major hassle but never scary per se. The idea of being more seriously hurt, much farther out, gets exponentially scarier the more i think about it.
You could have bailed out in 7.1 via the other side of the High Falls Loop trail back to Otto's Abode. It was pretty cool seeing the dams they are much wetter than they were in May.
Yeah I guess I could have. But then I still wouldn't of been to my car and it would have been just as much of a headache to get back at that point (I think?)
@@KyleHatesHiking Idk if you met Bo, but he and a few other locals are around a lot, I'm sure someone would give a ride to an injured hiker. Wanakena is such a cool little town.
This hike looks as shitty as mine last weekend in the San Isabel National Forest. However if it weren't for the bad ones, we wouldn't know the good hikes. Good job making the best out of a bad situation.
Thanks Greg!
My neck of the woods. I volunteer with the NYS DEC Search and Rescue team and every year many are “plucked” off that trail. Foot injuries are no joke….mine took 18 months!!! Hoping for a quick recovery. Oh, use vicks to keep the bugs away!!
Thanks for spending your time helping hikers!
Damn dude! The Cranberry Lake 50 is where good feet go to die, I think! The first time I did the CL50 was in early June 2017, and we're planning on heading out this October. I learned a value lesson about gangrene, Gore-Tex, and boot sizing, so I'm hoping this years trip is less enlightening ;)
You're 100% right -- once you hit that back section of the trail on the S/SE side of the lake, you're in the thick of it, and there's no place to bail out if you need to. Glad to see you made it out "OK" but bummed that you're still hurting ...
Nice looking trail. Thanks for showing it.
Cranberry lake was beautiful hike. Super wet by all the ponds
Bummer! Hope you heal up quickly!
Awesome video… can so relate as I nearly crawled across the Canadian line on the Vermont Long trail with a broken bone in my left foot and sprained right ankle… and I wasn’t quitting 😊as it happened in my last 20 miles 🙄 forgetaboutit… ibuprofen suck it up buttercup
Love your videos ❤️
Wow thats impressive! Probably way worse than what I had to hike through. Good for you 👍
Came for the hike, stayed for the Osooso track! Heckin subbed!
Oh man the part with the "ow, ow, ow, effing ow" been there
It'd be neat to have a livestream after the premiere. Seems like it would be a natural continuation.
Agreed. Maybe next time!
@@KyleHatesHiking Looking forward to it! 👍
Gonna have to start calling you Good Luck Kyle. Every time you talked about how it probably can’t get worse it does :(
I hope I don’t come off as preachy but I think you would benefit from getting yourself a cork ball to roll on your foot during hiking breaks. It sounds like planar fasciitis or a tendon strain on the trip.
I’m getting into my later 30s now and I have to keep stretched and warmed up for each hike. Each time I take a break for lunch, I get my shoes off, put my feet up for a bit and then roll the bottoms of my feet on a cork ball. I tend to do about five minutes of walking backwards in a small circle to warm up my knees each morning. Hiking with a pack can strain your posterior chain, especially if you have some weaknesses or overcompensation in some part of it.
I’d check out the foot collective and knees over toes guy for some stretching and strengthening methods. Again hope it’s not too preachy and hope you heal up quick man.
PS the flag shots came out good.
Sorry about your foot man. But thanks for pushing through and delivering such a great hike video...the shots of Cranberry Lake were beautiful.
Out Of Ducks...I nearly spit out my coffee...thanks for that one! The disappointment was palpable!
I got a blister hunting a few weeks ago about 5 miles out and it was a boatload of suck getting back.
Once again a KHH video masterpiece... well, maybe not a masterpiece but entertaining! OK, Kyle, Spray the bug juice into your hand and then "it rubs it on the skin." That's my old guy experience tip for the day... Happy Trails!
The Cranberry is your bane. Damn! It's pouring down rain and just when you could use a duck... their sold out.
I know right? A duck would have been my saving grace
I been doing a solo 4 days solo up river to highfalls off the cranberry lake trail.i love how secluded you are but if your Hurt your on your own.good luck out there
So much rain, reminds me of hiking in my home country. Starting to wonder why I even miss it 😂
You held up great though, definitely deserved that cheese burger 💪🏻 Watching this at 8AM and thinking about ordering one right now 😇
Lol order one!
I love to hike the trail in next April
Just subscribed. I hope you feel better soon. 🙂🙏🏻
For some reason this video just now showed up in my TH-cam feed. I feel this so much…then constant wet feet. My left foot big toe nail has still not recovered from that Cranberry 50 hike from 3 years ago, but we did it in August instead. I also still have horrible memories of the taste of filtered water along that hike…even flavored with nuun/liquid iv 🤮
I sympathize. I've been dealing with chronic plantar fasciitis in one foot. It's not fun hiking on a painful foot. I hope your foot heals up soon.
Insoles called barefoot science healed my plantar fasciitis plus stretching.
It looks miserable the whole experience. Poor you
I had plantar fasciitis. It was extremely painful. My husband and I were 62 and 68 years respectively and we were in training for the Camino de Santiago, which as you probably know is doable for people our age. We had also had knee and hip replacements 18 months prior and we were testing our new joints. We did the full 800 km in September 2018. I found that the constant walking, on mostly flat ground proved to be the key, for me, in curing my fasciitis. It has never returned.
Dude, I usually f**k with you in the comments but you really showed your grit here. 30+ miles with an injury? That's pretty badass. Hope you get better soon! BTW, I also saw your guest appearance in Jeremiah Stringer's video.
Zero-drop shoes are tricky; unless you wear them all the time you really have to get used to them gradually, starting with short walks/runs and working your way up to big miles much more slowly than you'd think. Do you think that might be part of it?
I agree. He came from a shoe with a very high 12mm drop
Great video brother, sorry you got hurt.
I know i always give you a hard time in the comment section but get better soon. As for the video i think you're on to something here with the narration. Big fan of that. Congrats on breaking 20k.
thank you!
I’ve been having foot issues on longer distances this year, so I can totally sympathize with the “Ow! Ow! Ow!” on every step. I’ve had to cut a couple trips short this year because of my feet. I’ve decided to try barefoot shoes to try and strengthen my feet. Of course, I’m an idiot, so I didn’t give myself time to transition properly. I jumped right into a Presidential traverse wearing them, so that kinda hurt, lol. I totally knew better but did it anyway. But I’m hoping that if I take it a little easier for a bit in these new shoes, my feet will get stronger and I won’t have problems with them anymore. Hope your feet recover soon, Kyle!
Been there, done that! I don't carry anything heavier than a daypack with minimalist shoes on. I normally wear Altra Lone Peaks with Powerstep orthotics, but have found that I like the feel and mobility of New Balance Minimus shoes on short hikes: It's like a foot massage unless the rocks are like AT rocks in Pennsylvania or the Presidentials. Carry on!
It's probably the new shoes causing the pain.
Didn't read your comment all the way through. I think you made the right decision. You do gotta give your feet time to transition though.
The opening to this video is a whole fucking mood. Lol
Lmao I was feeling some type of way when I recorded it
'Ow ow ow fkg ow" 😂 happy
youre better. Good video. 👍
What’s the song that starts around 22:39?