Dude don't even worry about it. Quality > Quantity any day. You're right, the Gold Smuggling video was a crazy insight, 6 weeks is honestly not even that long for the amount of research, resource compilation and editing you had to do.
I’m always trying to improve my Japanese, so a million thank you’s for adding those excerpts in Japanese from the articles and comments you’re referencing
From a microbiology perspective: Legionella bacteria pathogen was only discovered in the 1970/80s and is often underestimated because of this. It can easily cause invasive infections in lungs as it is a bacteria specialised to invade other larger cells as an environment survival technique. People used to always associate it with air conditioning, but it exists pretty much worldwide in dirt and mud Legionella naturally lives in soil and water and is often detected as a contaminant that indicates soil in a water supply or some other pipe breach etc. It is pretty environmentally resilient to water treatment since it can survive in the wild and tolerate acid, chemical attack, etc Legionnaire bacteria may indicate presence of amboea as well, as these bacteria often are able to live inside these larger blob microbes that can also cause invasive brain infections The bacteria is a serious problem and often goes underdiagnosed as a respiratory pathogen as a source of death in the elderly. Often found in potting mixes/soil, people accidentally get it from gardening
Underdiagnosed? At like every hospital I’ve been to when ever there is community acquired pneumonia physicians always seem to cover for atypical pneumonia
The Legionnaires Disease came into the limelight on July 21 of 1976, when members of the American Legion gathered at a hotel (still existente) in Philadelphia got sick by a mysterious disease. It was believed that the bacteria grew in the AC ducts. The case of Legionella disease associated with onsen in Japan is not new. Ity happened also in public bathhouses. True: Legionella bacteria grows in an environment called biofilm (the gooey stuff), where, as you pointed out, mold and amoebas are present. Therefore, it is more important in onsens to remove the biofilm growing in the pipes, rather than only killing the bacteria. And there is a ongoing debate in Japan. Beneficial properties of onsen waters are linked to its reducing characteristics. Chlorine, and other sanitizers are strong oxidants. By killing the bacteria, you also destroy the water characteristics. Yes. It is possible to keep the water running freely and prescind the use of chlorine. But the running cost becomes extremely expensive. I believe that there is one, and maybe a few more other places, where that practice this system.
The press conference thing doesn't seem like it was by mistake. The way he told it seemed more like he wanted to guarantee all the blame was put on him. He most likely already decided where this was gonna got at that point and probably wanted to state that his employees are innocent in this and they actively wanted to do right by the law.
@@28_futaba Not really. Even if someone can only accept their opinions overwhelming pressure and evidence can cause them to change it. If anything, if he was aware of his tendencies to not accept other's opinions then it could have just made the guilt heavier on him as he realized it was his fault.
@@theresnothinghere1745 In my experience these kind of people hold even stronger to their wrong opinions, even if evidence shows otherwise. But maybe this is more of a cultural factor, in Japan it might function differently.
@@aedes947 Pride and reputation matter a lot in Japan. If nothing else, he probably wanted to save his 300 year old family business at the cost of his own.
@@DeathNikkii I think he cut a lot of corners to achieve that. 6 months is a crazy long time to change water, but it is also a lot of money you are saving.
2:55 A supplementary explanation is necessary. It is true that the fine for pollution of hot springs is 2000JPY, but this is because this law was made in 1948 and was defined by the prices at that time. They will have to pay more fines because several other laws apply.
@@Japanalysis During the 1st violation, the Ryokan lied to the prefectural health department (not the police) that we change and disinfect our hot water regularly. They can issue a business suspension or a recommendation for business improvement, but they cannot seek a fine. And when they investigated one more time, things got worse and the county filed a complaint with the police for lying on the report. 2000JPY is the figure for that (note that as of 3/27/2023, the investigation is still ongoing and penalties have not been finalized).
@@woooshbait9696 I am also Japanese, and I sometimes shake my head at the strange conservatism. However, one particular law stipulates that these too-cheap fines in any law will be increased to keep up with inflation, so it is actually working out. The fact that this additional law was not reported in the news has also added to people's anger.
@@ももしき-j7i it's an insignificant price to pay for living in such a safe and trustworthy society. You guys have it way better than any other western country that i can think of. You pretty much figured out the ideal social model for our modern times.
Idk if you've done a video on the Minamata mercury poisoning scandal and the dancing cats but it's maybe one of the worst chemical disasters in Japanese history Cats got neurological disease from mercury before humans bcos they eat the fish that themselves were full of mercury, so they started having fits and seizure like movement that people called them the 'dancing cats of Minamata' 😢
I'm astonished by the second trace amounts. 3700 times the normal limit? How does this even happen after the first limit being reached? It's scary to think about the little care put into such a frequent visitor location.
@Shatterscape I meant more so on the company's fault. They were issued a complaint and warning, just the fact that they did nothing and the bacteria grew to such proportions shouldn't have happened in the first place.
@airthrowDBT Good deduction, it seems to be the case, unless even the first test is "payed off" to make it seem less than 3700x, it may have been probably less than 3700x at the first test but definitely more than 2x.
@airthrowDBT Assuming that the tester did the same tests on the same bath, considering Onsens have multiple baths for each male and female / private rooms
I got Legionaries Disease in 2000. It was brutal. It almost was year before I mostly recovered. It was like walking pneumonia. I went from 160 pounds to 125 pounds. Ached all over. All I wanted to do was sleep.
I know it's a serious topic and someone sadly passed away, but your friend and the "やめて?" made me laugh way too much because I can hear your friend saying it the same way my friends say it, and I find it hilarious every time.
@@zoroasper9759why not tho? These kinds of things should be widespread to teach the culprits and perpetrator lessons. Don't play with people's health. Health is VERY EXPENSIVE.
I always thought they would change water everyday or it was a running water. Changing it once a week is already outrageous to me, I can't even fathom a 6 MONTHS water change!
Tbf I do think it's running water, or at least it has been in every onsen I've been in. The once a week rule is probably for cleaning the entire thing out.
@@allpissedup229 Who said those are natural ? If you check the pictures, you'll see bathtubs and pools that imitate the natural hot springs but that's it, all is artificial, so no running water.
@@shizukagozen777 when they say“natural hot springs” it refers to the water source itself, not the tub. Generally onsens will have a constant stream of natural hot spring water, like at 2:39, to keep the bath warm. The excess water will just spill over the edge, but the water doesn’t change out fast enough to negate bacteria growth.
That was a roller coaster ride. I haven't heard Legionella disease in a long time because of advancement in water treatment. That is why I was scratching my head for it, this is common in 3rd world countries with poor water treatment hearing it in Japan is kinda embarrassing. And 2000 yen for penalties is also a factor if it is cheaper for them to pay a fine than actually fixing there water system they will go to pay the fine.
Often underdiagnosed bcos docs never think of rarer microbes except maybe Pseudomonas People probably tend to get Legionella from gardening and potting mix now more than old water supplies But it's still fairly common cause of death in elderly as far as my time in a pathology lab taught me Surprising number of Legionella foresnic lung biopsies
i live in the Netherlands and my dad got it pretty bad. a few weeks before he had it someone died in the Netherlands because of a misdiagnosis, since it is so rare. to be fair he did come back from Curaçao a few days prior.
As they say, "Pride comes before the fall." If he just accepted that he was wrong and actually listened it wouldn't have ended as tragically as it did.
@@curiouscat428 what he did was wrong but the fact that he took his life is tragic. genuinely awful that you're laughing at someone passing away. you're an awful person.
Thank you for covering this topic despite the pushback. Burying important societal discussions like this is probably my largest fear about Japan. Some folks in power don’t want to acknowledge big issues and hide it, thus making it unnecessarily harder to address & resolve. 😔 I’m glad it’s at least being brought up on social media platforms like TH-cam, but it shouldn’t stop there. Keep up the good work. 応援してます👍🏾
Damn that inn was just doomed to fail that generation first his brother was an awful businessman, and then theres Makoto who kept it alive for 30 years but completely ignored health regulations because he apparently didnt think it was harmful or didnt like the smell of chlorine?
Not adding chlorine is entirely different from not changing the water. The reason he did it is very likely to save expenditure. Think how much money he saved by running a bath without maintaining it regularly. Just how much money did he saved by not having to buy chlorine or hot spring water regularly. That's likely how he was able to come back from the debt in a relatively short time.
@@niello5944 lol sure it adds up but it's like a nonfactor when you consider they were millions in debt. you think what brought them back was saving on chlorine? you can buy a huge bag of chlorine tablets for like 50 bucks, and you need 1 tablet per 5,000 gallons of water.
5:38 This took a turn I wasnt expecting😳 But I get it. A business name tarnished and he felt the blame, very sad and tragic but a lesson was left behind
He should just be a good boy and change the water then 😂😂😂🤢🤮. And I thought Japanese are well known for their CLEANLINESS and EXCELLENT WAYS OF DOING BUSINESS. But, playing with other people's health where people trusted him and weren't suspecting... Health is VERY EXPENSIVE you know.
@@SixPaths_Sage and it is not "sad" or "tragic" like your sad little mind with not just a few but a lot of screw loose likes to think. Entering bathhouses or onsen requires people to be fully naked, not wearing bathing suits. Imagine what disease and infections people could get from their bottom parts just by sitting on dirty, disgusting water. Yikes. And, no. No need to check my other comments that's MEANT for OTHER PEOPLE. They're none of your business. Just concentrate on your own. Dunno that you're such a pathetic BUSY BODY wanting to know everybody's business. So, it's me who IDGAF.
@@SixPaths_Sage lastly, the DEAD man who suicide knows very well that it's the payment he should made when he got caught doing naughty in business. He shouldn't have tried CHEATING from the start. He knows a cheating pric* will ALWAYS get caught in the end. And he knows he had to deal with shame. Any sane minded will agree with me, so obviously not for a sad WEEABOO like yourself. Go back to your hole and watch anime 🥱. Unlike you, I went to school in Tokyo and we really don't appreciate dirty establishment. Now, going back to try reading my other comments? Honestly, IDGAF.
But what happened to the bathhouse after his passing? Did another family member take it over, and did they also turn the business around much like he did in the early 2000's? Would love an update to the story sometime in the future, awesome work!
@@rottenink website is still up and there is a notification siting "We are writing to inform you that we have violated the established legal compliance and are therefore in violation of the National Travel Assistance The "New Fukuoka Avoidance Travel" tourism campaign has had its participation status cancelled. We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience. A New Fukuoka Escapade" Sightseeing Campaign Cancellation of registration: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 *From the above date of cancellation, all subsidies for lodging and travel, including existing reservations, and local coupons will be cancelled. including existing reservations, and local coupons are not available from the date of cancellation. We will contact existing customers with reservations regarding this matter in due course. We sincerely apologize for the repeated inconvenience." From what I know, you can still book there.
The ending is really sad, I wish he didnt kill himself, but i'm also surprised he was remorseful enough to do that. You hear about big businessmen committing neglectful, selfish atrocities in the name of greed here in America all the time, and I've never heard of one killing themselves out of remorse.
I think it was more the public shame, rather than the legionella deaths, that caused him to do it. Japan is a shame-based culture rather than a guilt-based culture, after all.
@@gradualdecay Maybe we should be shame based, this seems like a more appropriate response to what he did than what most people in America would do. I can respect his actions after this came to light, protecting his employees, being honest and taking accountability, and ending his own life even seems appropriate considering he is directly responsible for killing 2 people. It's sad but it is a direct result of his own actions, some things I don't think are possible to forgive without adequate sacrifice and what sacrifice is enough to show remorse for killing multiple people? Even Christianity which is heavily focused on redemption has the concept of penance (I think that might be mostly a Catholic thing though, not sure about other types). I guess it doesn't really fit western values though, we do place a lot of value on redemption, probably due to how our morals developed alongside Christianity rather than whatever most of these shame based Asian cultures based their morality on. People have ended their lives in the US as well now that I think about it after being exposed for similar things. I remember a hedge fund manager who was found in his car after he lost a bunch of people's life savings making insanely risky decisions. It just is less common.
I’m shocked the health department didn’t take this more seriously, Japan has a very big “cleaning culture” when it comes to their homes, you’d think the same standards would be more heavily enforced at bath houses which run the highest risk of just overall dirtiness anyway
Even if japan was a near perfect society, businesses would still try to find ways to cut costs without letting the public know. It’s just a rule of corporate greed.
Trust me, Japan may have a big reputation for being clean which it is but look enough then you can see the dirty parts. This is why you would see people on the streets cleaning trash at times and recently, a group of Ryo Saeba cosplayers from the anime City Hunter even did a whole cleaning event.
@@ithecastic I mean it was a health resort that several japanese Prime Ministers used, it probably has powerful backers. If you take them down better make sure you don’t miss. Also that is why you would be very careful for this resort.
I really hope the reason your Japanese friends didn't want you to cover this isn't because ' It would make japan look bad'. Putting image above peoples health is .. yeah
I mean that’s literally what the friend’s response is: "I wish they wouldn't bring it up because it would give a bad image of Japanese hot springs." 日本の温泉のイメージが悪くなるか ら取り上げないでほしいけど
I’d guess they’re more sensitive to embarrassment and afraid well assume all of Japan is like that, which is understandable to be upset about But they over estimate how things like this color American perception Like, New York is the most esteemed city in US, but it still has pizza rat
Maybe I’m being the devil’s advocate here, but isn’t that understandable? Imagine you love your country’s food and want to show everyone, but one famous rich branch that makes your country’s food was caught out for health violations. Now everyone’s impression of your country’s food is “it’s dirty and will give you food poisoning.”
I actually made a reservation for the daimaru besso for may I was informed by the team of the website through which I made the reservation about what was going on and have been pondering since then if I should cancel it. I had hoped that since they've been discovered to have managed their bath so poorly they would up their standards immediately but I didn't know that they in fact failed 2 inspections and not just one. I'll talk about it with my friends again but I think they'll want to cancel it too after seeing this video
Depends. You could also argue that after the first inspection they found it hard to put the recommendations into place and simply underestimated the seriousness of the issue and feared public outcry for too obvious measures. But now they likely have much free capacity to change the water.
They gave him a chance and he still screwed up. He's lucky that there was only one confirmed case. I only feel sorry for his family, since they have to deal with the aftermath.
He probably knew he would be getting a heavy sentence (somebody died, after all), and he was already 70. No way he'd prefer living the rest of his days in prison.
You should feel sorry for his victims. He put many people's lives in danger and even got a person killed to make money. I doubt he grasped how fucked up what he did was even in his final moments. He was too much of a coward to acknowledge or confront anything he had done. Shame on you, for trying to paint a man whose greed destroyed others the lives of others as a victim.
What about the poor victim? they legit died- I agree he shouldn't have killed himself and should face punishment but you shouldn't feel bad for the guy who killed himself but for the victim who died.
@@YouJustAmazeMe Bro literally just said he felt bad that the dude killed himself, that's not victimising someone. Trying to shame someone for that is embarassing moral grandstanding.
In the US, the guilty, but rich, person would be living a life of infamous luxury. While suicide is extreme, we can at least respect that he owned up to his own criminal behaviour/practices.
Legionella infections are no joke. I almost died from one after lung surgery to remove cancerous growths. The infection cost me the rest of the lung. All because the hospital failed to follow proper sanitation and surgical prep procedures. I'm still slowly recovering from that mess.
Tell your japanese friends that as a foreigner I'm not scared and I still want to go to a onsen in Japan, one scandal doesn't make every ryokan dangerous!
Not every, but it makes me question how much of a widespread issue this actually is. It's well known the right way of addressing issues in Japan is to look the other way.
This ryokan is about 15 minutes from where I live. I never used the onsen there, but had visited it. I wondered if this would be about what happened more recently with Big Motor. Hopefully this will be covered as well.
Great video, the ending did feel a bit abrupt but I am glad you covered this story since I wouldn't have heard about it otherwise. Hopefully the algorithm gives you more views!
Bro Fukuoka again? When we went to a tour group to a family run Chicken BBQ house, My mum saw a cat eat our food and demand they change the food, the old lady refuse it in front of us and pretend no to see the cat beside us, some Japanese just like to keep up clean appearance but actually disgusting and dirty. 😬😁
I love your breakdown of comment sections. Could you do a video focusing on the comments section of current events and what Japanese people are actually saying about them? My Japanese level is not usually high enough to understand internet slang and abbreviations that are commonly used but how Japanese people think about politics, society and scandals, as well as how they put these thoughts into words is of great interest to me.
Thank you very much for making videos also on controversial topics like this. (because 2 of your friends told you not to) I think its important to cover scandals like this too, even when it might lower the image of ryoukan. This shows that japanese society cares about flaws, and consequently pushes for correction. Maybe the manager was old-fashioned and therefore felt like his life was over. Though i like the custom of actually apologizing for your mistakes in Japanese society.
Hate to say it but your friends are not good people if they don’t want this video to go out. The first comment was worried about image over a person’s life. Like the image of your onsen is already tarnished if someone dies as a result of your poorly and carelessly maintained facility. Glad you made the video anyways. Spread awareness so that people can take seriously, mistakes happen, but this was gross negligence and playing around with sanitation and hygiene is beyond not okay.
I think wholesale classifying someone as "good" or "bad" because of a singular text they made is kinda dumb. Like them caring more abt the image is bad but you don't know the person overall. What if someone took a specific moment of you being rude in your life and painted you as a bad guy just off that one thing?
I love this channel kinda cold to ask ur friends about it have them say “ Please dont you could ruin the image of Japanese bath houses “ and then immediately continue the video 😩 made me laugh alot tho
This is a good video to make, its not going to affect tourism or give this place a bad name forever, but its important for people to know about these things and this makes business be more aware and do a better job for their costumers.
Because the water is so hot most of these places only need to use very low levels of chlorine. The water is normally heavily filtered as well. Given the short flow path and closed cycle, one would think that ozonolysis and uv light would become popular as it avoids the chlorine smell
The smell of chlorine comes from when it combines with organic materials, e.g. the junk you are trying to get rid of. If you apply chlorine regularly you do not smell chlorine, because there is less masses of overgrown organics.
Thanks for another comprehensive reporting. Eve if tragic, I'm glad you worked on that topic. Hope all is well for you brother! To switch the mood on your future videos, you should do Japanese politicians scandals, and the hilarious way they do press conferences apologizing with fake tears and cries.
This is the problem with successing a business to someone that wasn't planned in the first place. Unlike his brother, he might not know every bit of details. He wasn't prepared by his father.
Why did your two Japanese friends ask you not to make this video? I assume it's because of the tragic ending and thus subject matter? It still feels like an important event and topic to cover regardless.
It's just another attempt to shut foreigners that they don't "understand the japanese ways", because what happened was quite shameful, actually. Good on the video maker to not listen to his "friends" and proceed to report what the world needs to know. If this is one instance, how many more baths secretly operates in dirty models like this, unknowingly we can all get infections and we're just tourists. It's disgusting. So this is very good to be reported and spread around, to protect baghgoers and tourists. The Japanese friends can go eat dust if they don't want ryokans repotations to get tarnished. Dont want a bad reputation? Do a good service. Simple as that 😂😂😂
The same thing is happening in SDSU where a professer died last month from legionaries’ disease I think there’s going to be an alarming rate of legionaries disease in next five years
Damn, you also use the Japanese name order (Family name, Given name). I'd sub again, but am already subbed All the best. Tough topic, thanks for covering with respect.
ONCE EVERY SIX MONTHS I'm surprised they didn't have a thriving Ghooric ecosystem growing in the bath house after that. Shit would've looked like an M.S. Waldron painting.
“thanks, young man, for freeing me! i grant thee three wishes!” “genie, i want the manager of japan’s daimaru besso to be ressurected and barred away from death - i.e. being immortal - until he can be fully responsible for his heinous acts on the onsen’s management!” “well… i can’t bring back dead people tho…” “just bring him back! as a zombie, ghost, demon, idc!” “fine… thine wish is my command”
I could see that having double the limit isn't such a big deal as there's quite a safety margin on these pathogens and since they grow exponentially the cut off will be so low that reaching dangerous levels will take some time.
There was a similar health crisis in North Carolina some years ago. A guy died from a brain eating amoeba, and investigators traced it to the white water rafting center, which wasn't cleaning the water properly.
This is a shining example of why I watch videos like this. People who do not know international history and news are courting disaster. I bet you that if this manager had known about the Bellevue-Stratford Hotel outbreak, he would have taken it seriously. I honestly feel a little bad for him, it really seems like he just didn’t know it was a serious thing.
It’s a very sad ending, unfortunately he did nothing to rectify the situation with his actions, truly he just added pain and complication to an already painful and complicated situation, especially for his family.
@@lukidjano Well... of course. However, it's not the video's fault for that - it was the fault of Daimaru's management. Not talking about a problem, but rather keeping silent about it, is the bigger issue. I also think it's a good "case study" of not blindly trusting prestige and popularity, but rather checking things and keeping an eye out for inconsistencies, even when dealing with the supposed best.
It's very surprising they caught the bacteria level 2x the norm. When it comes to norms of hazardous stuff, it's either zero or bajilion times higher than norm.
He didn't understand the severity of it he took responsibility and admitted his fault if he was willing to put in the work to show it in sure the public would understand, it's sad to see him go the way he did.
It always mortifies me how whenever you read or watch one of these "how this japanese business destroyed itself" videos and the CEO finally gets called out and quits, EVERY TIME only days later they end up taking their own lives out of shame. It's uncanny and really messed up.
"I'ts all my fault and I'm deeply sorry" sounds so much better than "we investigated ourselves and found out we didn't do anything wrong" which is what you hear in pretty much all of the rest of the world...
I sympathize with not wanting your country's name to be tarnished, but I'm also american, so I'm desensitized. I think you did the right thing. No country is perfect. I don't think people will stop loving Japan anytime soon. Hopefully, this won't affect their tourism too much. I mean, people still visit here even with all the gun violence.
What made him think that it was even remotely a good idea to change the water once every sixth months? Was it due to costs? Or maybe he just didn’t care enough. Still, it’s unforgivable to put peoples lives at risk due to negligence.
Sorry the uploads have been slow recently. Hopefully should speed up for a bit here
Dude don't even worry about it. Quality > Quantity any day. You're right, the Gold Smuggling video was a crazy insight, 6 weeks is honestly not even that long for the amount of research, resource compilation and editing you had to do.
those 6 weeks made my favorite vid of yours. id agree that its your best 🫡
Quality over quantity :)
Your videos are really fun to watch, I'm excited for a new upload each time.
I’m always trying to improve my Japanese, so a million thank you’s for adding those excerpts in Japanese from the articles and comments you’re referencing
From a microbiology perspective:
Legionella bacteria pathogen was only discovered in the 1970/80s and is often underestimated because of this. It can easily cause invasive infections in lungs as it is a bacteria specialised to invade other larger cells as an environment survival technique. People used to always associate it with air conditioning, but it exists pretty much worldwide in dirt and mud
Legionella naturally lives in soil and water and is often detected as a contaminant that indicates soil in a water supply or some other pipe breach etc. It is pretty environmentally resilient to water treatment since it can survive in the wild and tolerate acid, chemical attack, etc
Legionnaire bacteria may indicate presence of amboea as well, as these bacteria often are able to live inside these larger blob microbes that can also cause invasive brain infections
The bacteria is a serious problem and often goes underdiagnosed as a respiratory pathogen as a source of death in the elderly. Often found in potting mixes/soil, people accidentally get it from gardening
that won’t deter me from gardening, thank you very much tho
Underdiagnosed? At like every hospital I’ve been to when ever there is community acquired pneumonia physicians always seem to cover for atypical pneumonia
in New York people get infected constantly, it comes from the water sprayed from cooling towers. The towers are poorly maintained and breed pathogens.
The Legionnaires Disease came into the limelight on July 21 of 1976, when members of the American Legion gathered at a hotel (still existente) in Philadelphia got sick by a mysterious disease. It was believed that the bacteria grew in the AC ducts.
The case of Legionella disease associated with onsen in Japan is not new. Ity happened also in public bathhouses.
True: Legionella bacteria grows in an environment called biofilm (the gooey stuff), where, as you pointed out, mold and amoebas are present. Therefore, it is more important in onsens to remove the biofilm growing in the pipes, rather than only killing the bacteria.
And there is a ongoing debate in Japan. Beneficial properties of onsen waters are linked to its reducing characteristics. Chlorine, and other sanitizers are strong oxidants. By killing the bacteria, you also destroy the water characteristics.
Yes. It is possible to keep the water running freely and prescind the use of chlorine. But the running cost becomes extremely expensive. I believe that there is one, and maybe a few more other places, where that practice this system.
Amoeba!? 😱 wtf
The press conference thing doesn't seem like it was by mistake. The way he told it seemed more like he wanted to guarantee all the blame was put on him. He most likely already decided where this was gonna got at that point and probably wanted to state that his employees are innocent in this and they actively wanted to do right by the law.
Doesn't that go contradictory to his inability to accept opinions other than his own?
@@28_futaba Not really.
Even if someone can only accept their opinions overwhelming pressure and evidence can cause them to change it.
If anything, if he was aware of his tendencies to not accept other's opinions then it could have just made the guilt heavier on him as he realized it was his fault.
@@theresnothinghere1745 In my experience these kind of people hold even stronger to their wrong opinions, even if evidence shows otherwise. But maybe this is more of a cultural factor, in Japan it might function differently.
@@aedes947 Pride and reputation matter a lot in Japan. If nothing else, he probably wanted to save his 300 year old family business at the cost of his own.
@@DeathNikkii I think he cut a lot of corners to achieve that. 6 months is a crazy long time to change water, but it is also a lot of money you are saving.
2:55 A supplementary explanation is necessary. It is true that the fine for pollution of hot springs is 2000JPY, but this is because this law was made in 1948 and was defined by the prices at that time.
They will have to pay more fines because several other laws apply.
The 2000 figure was also only for the first inspection, right? Not the second inspection that found the 3700x
there is no excuse for a 100 year old law. japan may look modern from the outside but the inside is nightmare
@@Japanalysis During the 1st violation, the Ryokan lied to the prefectural health department (not the police) that we change and disinfect our hot water regularly. They can issue a business suspension or a recommendation for business improvement, but they cannot seek a fine.
And when they investigated one more time, things got worse and the county filed a complaint with the police for lying on the report. 2000JPY is the figure for that (note that as of 3/27/2023, the investigation is still ongoing and penalties have not been finalized).
@@woooshbait9696 I am also Japanese, and I sometimes shake my head at the strange conservatism.
However, one particular law stipulates that these too-cheap fines in any law will be increased to keep up with inflation, so it is actually working out. The fact that this additional law was not reported in the news has also added to people's anger.
@@ももしき-j7i it's an insignificant price to pay for living in such a safe and trustworthy society. You guys have it way better than any other western country that i can think of. You pretty much figured out the ideal social model for our modern times.
Can you do a video of past Japanese business scandals? I think it would pretty cool
YES! the one with the shoddy real estate company where the building collapsed
Idk if you've done a video on the Minamata mercury poisoning scandal and the dancing cats but it's maybe one of the worst chemical disasters in Japanese history
Cats got neurological disease from mercury before humans bcos they eat the fish that themselves were full of mercury, so they started having fits and seizure like movement that people called them the 'dancing cats of Minamata' 😢
Yes yes that would be interesting content
そうだ!そうだ!そうだ!
@@IkePaz thats South korea not jpaan
I'm astonished by the second trace amounts. 3700 times the normal limit? How does this even happen after the first limit being reached? It's scary to think about the little care put into such a frequent visitor location.
Bacteria growth is usually exponential
@Shatterscape I meant more so on the company's fault. They were issued a complaint and warning, just the fact that they did nothing and the bacteria grew to such proportions shouldn't have happened in the first place.
@@WhiskersTC I suppose complacency but this is clearly evident, probably overconfidence? Then again it is still tied to complacency
@airthrowDBT Good deduction, it seems to be the case, unless even the first test is "payed off" to make it seem less than 3700x, it may have been probably less than 3700x at the first test but definitely more than 2x.
@airthrowDBT Assuming that the tester did the same tests on the same bath, considering Onsens have multiple baths for each male and female / private rooms
I got Legionaries Disease in 2000. It was brutal. It almost was year before I mostly recovered. It was like walking pneumonia. I went from 160 pounds to 125 pounds. Ached all over. All I wanted to do was sleep.
I know it's a serious topic and someone sadly passed away, but your friend and the "やめて?" made me laugh way too much because I can hear your friend saying it the same way my friends say it, and I find it hilarious every time.
yeah, had the same energy of "yeah maybe don't do that?"
yeah it's exuding "pls don't" energy
i hear franku
@@zoroasper9759why not tho? These kinds of things should be widespread to teach the culprits and perpetrator lessons. Don't play with people's health. Health is VERY EXPENSIVE.
@zoroasper9759 because foreigners might want to avoid Onsens in general
I always thought they would change water everyday or it was a running water. Changing it once a week is already outrageous to me, I can't even fathom a 6 MONTHS water change!
Tbf I do think it's running water, or at least it has been in every onsen I've been in. The once a week rule is probably for cleaning the entire thing out.
It is running water, especially in natural onsens.
@@destituteanddecadent9106
It's not, you can't put chlorine in running water, plus he clearly was talking about CHANGING the water...
@@allpissedup229
Who said those are natural ? If you check the pictures, you'll see bathtubs and pools that imitate the natural hot springs but that's it, all is artificial, so no running water.
@@shizukagozen777 when they say“natural hot springs” it refers to the water source itself, not the tub.
Generally onsens will have a constant stream of natural hot spring water, like at 2:39, to keep the bath warm. The excess water will just spill over the edge, but the water doesn’t change out fast enough to negate bacteria growth.
A Japanese boss being a terminal case of micromanagement freak? ONE IS STUNNED.
That was a roller coaster ride. I haven't heard Legionella disease in a long time because of advancement in water treatment. That is why I was scratching my head for it, this is common in 3rd world countries with poor water treatment hearing it in Japan is kinda embarrassing. And 2000 yen for penalties is also a factor if it is cheaper for them to pay a fine than actually fixing there water system they will go to pay the fine.
Often underdiagnosed bcos docs never think of rarer microbes except maybe Pseudomonas
People probably tend to get Legionella from gardening and potting mix now more than old water supplies
But it's still fairly common cause of death in elderly as far as my time in a pathology lab taught me
Surprising number of Legionella foresnic lung biopsies
Also I'm certain Japan would have a tonne of buildings with shitty old pipes and air-conditioning outside of Tokyo proper 😅
are you dumb? water from hotsprings are not treated.
it happens in NYC often from cooling towers. Also cruise ships.
i live in the Netherlands and my dad got it pretty bad. a few weeks before he had it someone died in the Netherlands because of a misdiagnosis, since it is so rare.
to be fair he did come back from Curaçao a few days prior.
As they say, "Pride comes before the fall." If he just accepted that he was wrong and actually listened it wouldn't have ended as tragically as it did.
I guess we’ll never know for sure, but I think he did accept he was wrong. He just didn’t want to accept the consequences.
@@dingus_maximushe's a coward then 😂😂😂🤢🤮
He deeply regretted it enough that he took his own life, that in itself is tragic, all life is precious and I hope hes in a better place
@@curiouscat428 what he did was wrong but the fact that he took his life is tragic. genuinely awful that you're laughing at someone passing away. you're an awful person.
Thank you for covering this topic despite the pushback. Burying important societal discussions like this is probably my largest fear about Japan. Some folks in power don’t want to acknowledge big issues and hide it, thus making it unnecessarily harder to address & resolve. 😔 I’m glad it’s at least being brought up on social media platforms like TH-cam, but it shouldn’t stop there. Keep up the good work. 応援してます👍🏾
Damn that inn was just doomed to fail that generation first his brother was an awful businessman, and then theres Makoto who kept it alive for 30 years but completely ignored health regulations because he apparently didnt think it was harmful or didnt like the smell of chlorine?
Not adding chlorine is entirely different from not changing the water. The reason he did it is very likely to save expenditure. Think how much money he saved by running a bath without maintaining it regularly. Just how much money did he saved by not having to buy chlorine or hot spring water regularly. That's likely how he was able to come back from the debt in a relatively short time.
@@niello5944 true but like, not changing for 6 months 💀😭 at least once a month 😔
@@niello5944 chlorine is super cheap lol
@@euko7469 Not if you have to buy it regularly every week or so for multiple baths. And it's not just the price of the chlorine.
@@niello5944 lol sure it adds up but it's like a nonfactor when you consider they were millions in debt. you think what brought them back was saving on chlorine? you can buy a huge bag of chlorine tablets for like 50 bucks, and you need 1 tablet per 5,000 gallons of water.
I truly love the way you cover Japan!
お疲れ様です!
5:38 This took a turn I wasnt expecting😳 But I get it. A business name tarnished and he felt the blame, very sad and tragic but a lesson was left behind
He should just be a good boy and change the water then 😂😂😂🤢🤮. And I thought Japanese are well known for their CLEANLINESS and EXCELLENT WAYS OF DOING BUSINESS.
But, playing with other people's health where people trusted him and weren't suspecting...
Health is VERY EXPENSIVE you know.
@@curiouscat428 I see your other comments so personally idgaf what you have to say on the situation. Seems like you got a few screws loose
@@SixPaths_Sage sorry to disappoint you. Nope, I don't. You're just a typical Japan WEEABOO defending. Now cope and grow up.
@@SixPaths_Sage and it is not "sad" or "tragic" like your sad little mind with not just a few but a lot of screw loose likes to think.
Entering bathhouses or onsen requires people to be fully naked, not wearing bathing suits. Imagine what disease and infections people could get from their bottom parts just by sitting on dirty, disgusting water. Yikes.
And, no. No need to check my other comments that's MEANT for OTHER PEOPLE. They're none of your business. Just concentrate on your own. Dunno that you're such a pathetic BUSY BODY wanting to know everybody's business.
So, it's me who IDGAF.
@@SixPaths_Sage lastly, the DEAD man who suicide knows very well that it's the payment he should made when he got caught doing naughty in business. He shouldn't have tried CHEATING from the start. He knows a cheating pric* will ALWAYS get caught in the end. And he knows he had to deal with shame. Any sane minded will agree with me, so obviously not for a sad WEEABOO like yourself.
Go back to your hole and watch anime 🥱. Unlike you, I went to school in Tokyo and we really don't appreciate dirty establishment. Now, going back to try reading my other comments? Honestly, IDGAF.
But what happened to the bathhouse after his passing? Did another family member take it over, and did they also turn the business around much like he did in the early 2000's? Would love an update to the story sometime in the future, awesome work!
I second this!
@@rottenink website is still up and there is a notification siting "We are writing to inform you that we have violated the established legal compliance and are therefore in violation of the National Travel Assistance
The "New Fukuoka Avoidance Travel" tourism campaign has had its participation status cancelled.
We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience.
A New Fukuoka Escapade" Sightseeing Campaign
Cancellation of registration: Wednesday, March 8, 2023
*From the above date of cancellation, all subsidies for lodging and travel, including existing reservations, and local coupons will be cancelled.
including existing reservations, and local coupons are not available from the date of cancellation.
We will contact existing customers with reservations regarding this matter in due course.
We sincerely apologize for the repeated inconvenience."
From what I know, you can still book there.
No wonder he turned the business around in the 2000s because he barely spends money to change the water 😂
@@riougenkaku6069🤣🤣🤣🤢🤮
Why don't they use salt & filtration? Salt is supposedly cheaper.
Crazy in America if you’re caught for a scandal you just disappear for a year and then open a new business.
Yeah Jeff Skilling the main guy behind the Enron scandal got out of prison and went right back into the oil & gas business.
In Korea they just release you from jail "for the good of the economy". Hi Samsung
It's called natural selection, those with morals take responsibility and leave the industry, over time, businesses self-selects for amoral people.
That's the American Dream, baby!
In japan, you can eat French people, get off scott free, and make a career off of it 😂
The ending is really sad, I wish he didnt kill himself, but i'm also surprised he was remorseful enough to do that. You hear about big businessmen committing neglectful, selfish atrocities in the name of greed here in America all the time, and I've never heard of one killing themselves out of remorse.
I think it was more the public shame, rather than the legionella deaths, that caused him to do it. Japan is a shame-based culture rather than a guilt-based culture, after all.
it's probably public shame, how could someone live a normal life when the whole country knows it was their business that caused someone to die.
@@gradualdecayhonestly, this is more of a problem than most people expect. It’s a major barrier to repentance…
@@gradualdecay Maybe we should be shame based, this seems like a more appropriate response to what he did than what most people in America would do. I can respect his actions after this came to light, protecting his employees, being honest and taking accountability, and ending his own life even seems appropriate considering he is directly responsible for killing 2 people. It's sad but it is a direct result of his own actions, some things I don't think are possible to forgive without adequate sacrifice and what sacrifice is enough to show remorse for killing multiple people? Even Christianity which is heavily focused on redemption has the concept of penance (I think that might be mostly a Catholic thing though, not sure about other types).
I guess it doesn't really fit western values though, we do place a lot of value on redemption, probably due to how our morals developed alongside Christianity rather than whatever most of these shame based Asian cultures based their morality on.
People have ended their lives in the US as well now that I think about it after being exposed for similar things. I remember a hedge fund manager who was found in his car after he lost a bunch of people's life savings making insanely risky decisions. It just is less common.
I’m shocked the health department didn’t take this more seriously, Japan has a very big “cleaning culture” when it comes to their homes, you’d think the same standards would be more heavily enforced at bath houses which run the highest risk of just overall dirtiness anyway
Even if japan was a near perfect society, businesses would still try to find ways to cut costs without letting the public know. It’s just a rule of corporate greed.
@@muffinconsumer4431 trhe
Trust me, Japan may have a big reputation for being clean which it is but look enough then you can see the dirty parts.
This is why you would see people on the streets cleaning trash at times and recently, a group of Ryo Saeba cosplayers from the anime City Hunter even did a whole cleaning event.
@@ithecastic I mean it was a health resort that several japanese Prime Ministers used, it probably has powerful backers. If you take them down better make sure you don’t miss. Also that is why you would be very careful for this resort.
Yeah but corporate greed can only get this bad when government is complicit and encourages it@@muffinconsumer4431
I really hope the reason your Japanese friends didn't want you to cover this isn't because ' It would make japan look bad'. Putting image above peoples health is .. yeah
Yea ur right, the japanese friends basically said that the image of Japanese hot springs will worsen, so I kind of dont want you to upload the video
No they r just don't want japan reputation
I mean that’s literally what the friend’s response is:
"I wish they wouldn't bring it up because it would give a bad image of Japanese hot springs."
日本の温泉のイメージが悪くなるか ら取り上げないでほしいけど
I’d guess they’re more sensitive to embarrassment and afraid well assume all of Japan is like that, which is understandable to be upset about
But they over estimate how things like this color American perception
Like, New York is the most esteemed city in US, but it still has pizza rat
Maybe I’m being the devil’s advocate here, but isn’t that understandable? Imagine you love your country’s food and want to show everyone, but one famous rich branch that makes your country’s food was caught out for health violations. Now everyone’s impression of your country’s food is “it’s dirty and will give you food poisoning.”
I love watching when japanese politicians/public figures do these public apologies/press conferences sometimes I just watch them for hours lol
So sowwwyy 😮💨 sumiii massuuuuushta
Wrong grammar bro
@@seaofchamomile me so solly
Gomenasorry~~ 😞🙏
I loved gintama’s skit on it lol
Was not expecting that ending thanks for the video
He literally took the adage "This is the hill (mountain) I will die on" to himself. What a stubborn old man.
Sweep it under the rug. Make it look good outside as long as no one notices can be seen in Japanese culture, many sources cover this topic.
Yup. Like abuse are workplace and bullying at school.
I actually made a reservation for the daimaru besso for may
I was informed by the team of the website through which I made the reservation about what was going on and have been pondering since then if I should cancel it.
I had hoped that since they've been discovered to have managed their bath so poorly they would up their standards immediately but I didn't know that they in fact failed 2 inspections and not just one.
I'll talk about it with my friends again but I think they'll want to cancel it too after seeing this video
Better be safe than sorry. Unless if you are Japanese/lives in Japan where you can get more information about it.
Tbf it may well be under different management at this point and hopefully doing things better than the last guy
Depends. You could also argue that after the first inspection they found it hard to put the recommendations into place and simply underestimated the seriousness of the issue and feared public outcry for too obvious measures. But now they likely have much free capacity to change the water.
Just want to say that's awesome of the site to contact you and give a warning like that. Pretty respectable.
They gave him a chance and he still screwed up. He's lucky that there was only one confirmed case. I only feel sorry for his family, since they have to deal with the aftermath.
Bathing in one week old water sounds disgusting enough. Six month? Gosh I'm never public bathing again... not like I ever did anyway.
"yamete?"
I don't know why but I just found that reply funny
Like when a Twitch chat says "STOP??????"
Jesus, I feel terrible that the guy killed himself.
I wish he had had the courage to face punishment and forgive himself.
He probably knew he would be getting a heavy sentence (somebody died, after all), and he was already 70. No way he'd prefer living the rest of his days in prison.
You should feel sorry for his victims. He put many people's lives in danger and even got a person killed to make money. I doubt he grasped how fucked up what he did was even in his final moments. He was too much of a coward to acknowledge or confront anything he had done. Shame on you, for trying to paint a man whose greed destroyed others the lives of others as a victim.
What about the poor victim? they legit died- I agree he shouldn't have killed himself and should face punishment but you shouldn't feel bad for the guy who killed himself but for the victim who died.
@@YouJustAmazeMe Bro literally just said he felt bad that the dude killed himself, that's not victimising someone. Trying to shame someone for that is embarassing moral grandstanding.
Reminds me of an ex-minister in my country whom I think said that Japanese executives would commit hara-kiri at press conferences last time
In the US, the guilty, but rich, person would be living a life of infamous luxury.
While suicide is extreme, we can at least respect that he owned up to his own criminal behaviour/practices.
Legionella infections are no joke. I almost died from one after lung surgery to remove cancerous growths. The infection cost me the rest of the lung. All because the hospital failed to follow proper sanitation and surgical prep procedures. I'm still slowly recovering from that mess.
Tell your japanese friends that as a foreigner I'm not scared and I still want to go to a onsen in Japan, one scandal doesn't make every ryokan dangerous!
Not every, but it makes me question how much of a widespread issue this actually is. It's well known the right way of addressing issues in Japan is to look the other way.
@@jaaan420 this happens in every country no matter what the issue may be
This ryokan is about 15 minutes from where I live. I never used the onsen there, but had visited it.
I wondered if this would be about what happened more recently with Big Motor. Hopefully this will be covered as well.
And now, I am too afraid of entering an Onsen... 💀
Great video, the ending did feel a bit abrupt but I am glad you covered this story since I wouldn't have heard about it otherwise. Hopefully the algorithm gives you more views!
I did not expect that ending.
Medieval public baths, even during bubonic plague, has more sanitation standards than that ryokan
Bro Fukuoka again? When we went to a tour group to a family run Chicken BBQ house, My mum saw a cat eat our food and demand they change the food, the old lady refuse it in front of us and pretend no to see the cat beside us, some Japanese just like to keep up clean appearance but actually disgusting and dirty. 😬😁
I love your breakdown of comment sections. Could you do a video focusing on the comments section of current events and what Japanese people are actually saying about them?
My Japanese level is not usually high enough to understand internet slang and abbreviations that are commonly used but how Japanese people think about politics, society and scandals, as well as how they put these thoughts into words is of great interest to me.
Thank you very much for making videos also on controversial topics like this. (because 2 of your friends told you not to)
I think its important to cover scandals like this too, even when it might lower the image of ryoukan. This shows that japanese society cares about flaws, and consequently pushes for correction.
Maybe the manager was old-fashioned and therefore felt like his life was over.
Though i like the custom of actually apologizing for your mistakes in Japanese society.
Old Japanese people are usually old fashioned. 😅
Hate to say it but your friends are not good people if they don’t want this video to go out. The first comment was worried about image over a person’s life. Like the image of your onsen is already tarnished if someone dies as a result of your poorly and carelessly maintained facility. Glad you made the video anyways. Spread awareness so that people can take seriously, mistakes happen, but this was gross negligence and playing around with sanitation and hygiene is beyond not okay.
I think wholesale classifying someone as "good" or "bad" because of a singular text they made is kinda dumb. Like them caring more abt the image is bad but you don't know the person overall. What if someone took a specific moment of you being rude in your life and painted you as a bad guy just off that one thing?
@@MountainGermz cause they are, most Japanese are.
These types of disease and infections always make me second guess before using a public bath house.
I love this channel kinda cold to ask ur friends about it have them say “
Please dont you could ruin the image of Japanese bath houses “ and then immediately continue the video 😩 made me laugh alot tho
Man I love your channel. I usually watch 2 of your videos at the least a day
Now that the first comment is out the way, been waiting for an upload! Thank you and keep up the amazing work!
So what I'm hearing is that the laws worked! Even after their initial fine, Darimaru besso got a surprise inspection *just to be sure*.
If you’re charging hundreds of dollars a night, you BETTER be changing the water more than one a week.
This is a good video to make, its not going to affect tourism or give this place a bad name forever, but its important for people to know about these things and this makes business be more aware and do a better job for their costumers.
Because the water is so hot most of these places only need to use very low levels of chlorine. The water is normally heavily filtered as well.
Given the short flow path and closed cycle, one would think that ozonolysis and uv light would become popular as it avoids the chlorine smell
The smell of chlorine comes from when it combines with organic materials, e.g. the junk you are trying to get rid of. If you apply chlorine regularly you do not smell chlorine, because there is less masses of overgrown organics.
Thanks for another comprehensive reporting. Eve if tragic, I'm glad you worked on that topic. Hope all is well for you brother! To switch the mood on your future videos, you should do Japanese politicians scandals, and the hilarious way they do press conferences apologizing with fake tears and cries.
Aye man if it wasn't for this video I wouldn't even know that disease existed! Thanks for making the video and tell your japanese friends to chill.
Yeah, wtf? Why would they want to keep it hush?
@@azv343 to not damage the image of japan
This is the problem with successing a business to someone that wasn't planned in the first place. Unlike his brother, he might not know every bit of details. He wasn't prepared by his father.
I've only just stumbled across your channel, and I'm so glad I did. You're easy to listen to, informative and interesting. Keep up the good work! 😁
Why did your two Japanese friends ask you not to make this video? I assume it's because of the tragic ending and thus subject matter? It still feels like an important event and topic to cover regardless.
I believe the first one didn’t want this story to tarnish the reputation of Japanese ryokans
And the second just said "don't?"
It's just another attempt to shut foreigners that they don't "understand the japanese ways", because what happened was quite shameful, actually.
Good on the video maker to not listen to his "friends" and proceed to report what the world needs to know. If this is one instance, how many more baths secretly operates in dirty models like this, unknowingly we can all get infections and we're just tourists. It's disgusting. So this is very good to be reported and spread around, to protect baghgoers and tourists.
The Japanese friends can go eat dust if they don't want ryokans repotations to get tarnished. Dont want a bad reputation? Do a good service. Simple as that 😂😂😂
This channel is great. I never have a clue what you're talking about and am always entertained
Quite ironic, someone called “makoto” couldn’t come clean with what he’s doing.
Tragic end? I would say it is a happy ending after criminal scum didnt face any consequences.
The same thing is happening in SDSU where a professer died last month from legionaries’ disease I think there’s going to be an alarming rate of legionaries disease in next five years
Every time I see videos of crowded streets in Japan I just expect to see Kiryu throwing thugs around and slamming bikes onto them in the background
I kinda wish our politicians make a press conference of their mistake and un-alive themselves like this.
yikes...
not very empathetic i see.
Wtf that turn dark pretty quickly
I didn't expect that ending... that's really sad :(((
Damn, you also use the Japanese name order (Family name, Given name).
I'd sub again, but am already subbed
All the best. Tough topic, thanks for covering with respect.
Can't wait to finish the video
Haha same!
ONCE EVERY SIX MONTHS
I'm surprised they didn't have a thriving Ghooric ecosystem growing in the bath house after that. Shit would've looked like an M.S. Waldron painting.
his death didnt even solve the problem. just gave the problem to someone else and the public
“thanks, young man, for freeing me! i grant thee three wishes!”
“genie, i want the manager of japan’s daimaru besso to be ressurected and barred away from death - i.e. being immortal - until he can be fully responsible for his heinous acts on the onsen’s management!”
“well… i can’t bring back dead people tho…”
“just bring him back! as a zombie, ghost, demon, idc!”
“fine… thine wish is my command”
The footage of walking around Japanese streets is mesmerizing
I could see that having double the limit isn't such a big deal as there's quite a safety margin on these pathogens and since they grow exponentially the cut off will be so low that reaching dangerous levels will take some time.
There was a similar health crisis in North Carolina some years ago. A guy died from a brain eating amoeba, and investigators traced it to the white water rafting center, which wasn't cleaning the water properly.
Changing the water once every 6 months.
Hotdog vendors: "Rookie numbers"
Ouch, that final note.
Thanks for the video!
Great video! Always fascinating to see what happens in different cultures
If he really wanted to go out in style, he should have just taken a bath at his own business.
Loved this video! So interesting! Just subscribed and will watch other videos on your channel. Great stuff.
No country is perfect but we can understand it better if we see all the good and the bad. Thanks for showing us.
This is a shining example of why I watch videos like this. People who do not know international history and news are courting disaster. I bet you that if this manager had known about the Bellevue-Stratford Hotel outbreak, he would have taken it seriously. I honestly feel a little bad for him, it really seems like he just didn’t know it was a serious thing.
I wish that he wasn't pushed to believe that taking his own life was necessary
a kid pooed in the onsen I went to two months ago, I haven’t had the courage in go to an onsen again since having a poo float past me.
Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!
AC's can also be sources of Legionella, so keep it clean and replace stagnant water frequently.
It occurs to me that his last press conference confessing everything wasn't a mistake on his part. Makes it even sadder
It’s a very sad ending, unfortunately he did nothing to rectify the situation with his actions, truly he just added pain and complication to an already painful and complicated situation, especially for his family.
社長自らが毎日浴室清掃している動画とかを公開すればイメージ回復に繋がると思うんだけど、現実はそんなに甘くないのかなあ。
Japan where justice is bullying folks into suicide instead of having a regulatory system
They only change water once a week? That's disgusting lol
I wonder why the two japanese friends didn't want him to cover this. Maybe because of negative attention?
Nevertheless, thanks for making the Video!
One said it would hurt the image of Japanese onsens
Both said something like "It might deter foreign tourists from enjoying Japan's hot springs" when I asked them on the phone later
@@Japanalysis Your friends know about your youtube channel, right? I hope they won't be discouraged
@@lukidjano Well... of course. However, it's not the video's fault for that - it was the fault of Daimaru's management. Not talking about a problem, but rather keeping silent about it, is the bigger issue.
I also think it's a good "case study" of not blindly trusting prestige and popularity, but rather checking things and keeping an eye out for inconsistencies, even when dealing with the supposed best.
Saving face
It's very surprising they caught the bacteria level 2x the norm. When it comes to norms of hazardous stuff, it's either zero or bajilion times higher than norm.
He didn't understand the severity of it he took responsibility and admitted his fault if he was willing to put in the work to show it in sure the public would understand, it's sad to see him go the way he did.
It always mortifies me how whenever you read or watch one of these "how this japanese business destroyed itself" videos and the CEO finally gets called out and quits, EVERY TIME only days later they end up taking their own lives out of shame. It's uncanny and really messed up.
Dude Japan goes really hard on covering up business scandals.
"I'ts all my fault and I'm deeply sorry" sounds so much better than "we investigated ourselves and found out we didn't do anything wrong" which is what you hear in pretty much all of the rest of the world...
So you have onsens that the water comes up naturally from the ground, and the hotel types that it's just like a public swimming pool ?
Changing the water once a weak is disgusting. Who would ever go there after knowing that .
I sympathize with not wanting your country's name to be tarnished, but I'm also american, so I'm desensitized.
I think you did the right thing. No country is perfect. I don't think people will stop loving Japan anytime soon. Hopefully, this won't affect their tourism too much. I mean, people still visit here even with all the gun violence.
woah another good vid! nexct please do BOCCHI za ROCKu! it is great animation!!!
I’m sad at the finish here. I wanted him to be held accountable to prevent more people in leadership doing such things.
What made him think that it was even remotely a good idea to change the water once every sixth months? Was it due to costs? Or maybe he just didn’t care enough. Still, it’s unforgivable to put peoples lives at risk due to negligence.