Elizabeth killed it; her expression of absolute peace when she's turning into dust is heartbreaking... she have nothing last, so dying is somehow a blessing.
She's been my favorite for a while. She's criminally underrated. EDIT: Glad you said it too. Wanda is the strongest Avenger. Been saying this since Infinity War. Not only did she hold off 5stone Thanos while destroying a stone, she was having a mental breakdown at the same time.
My vote would go to Doctor Strange, but ig Wanda is a close second. I hate it when people say Capt. Marvel or Thor, as while they have brute physical strength, Wanda or Strange would destroy them through other means.
@@accidentalmadness1708 OKAY BUT IN THE WANDAVISION TRAILERS WE HAVE A SHOT OF PREGNANT WANDA & THEN A SHOT OF 2 PACIFIERS POPPING OUT OF 2 CRIBS SO SHE'S GONNA WATCH HER KIDS DIE & THEN FIND THEIR REINCARNATIONS 15 YEARS LATER NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MCU Wanda: I don't think my life could get any more depressing. MCU Writers: (chuckling while reading Scarlet Witch comics) *Honey, you've got a big storm coming*
They really glossed over her relationship with Tony Stark in these movies and that always frustrated me. She forgave him really fast for the role he played in her parents’ death, and we never got to see her call him out on it to his face. We never see his reaction to that news. We never see him apologize. She just kinda does a face turn abruptly and it doesn’t really work.
The problem is most of her appearances so far have been in Avengers movies (besides Civil War that still had a huge roaster) which can't always include all these fulfilling interactions people are hoping for due to the scope and/or circumstances. Look at Bucky/Tony, I was hoping for them to have a moment in Infinity War or Endgame after Civil War but that didn't happen despite them fighting on the same battlefield and him being present in Tony's funeral.
There’s no way she just doesn’t bring it up. The whole reason that she has powers to begin with is her quest for revenge against Tony. She volunteered to be experimented on because she wanted to take him down. She isn’t an Avenger if not for her hatred of him. She starts down the path that leads to her brother’s death because of Tony. That doesn’t just magically go away. If anything, it should have been her calling him out that would freak him out enough to want to be put in check, not the deaths of randos that he has no connection with. She’s a living, breathing consequence of who Tony used to be, and the films don’t do nearly enough with that.
Fun fact, her last interaction with Stark was literally her calling him out for grounding her in her room which was then followed by her raining dozens of car on his head. Not the best closure to their relationship I’d say
Yes! I know a guy that works on the show and he mentioned it's going to be one of the most unique things Disney-Marvel does. I doubt it'll come anywhere near Noah Hawley's genius Legion show, but I bet it dabbles in some of the same waters.
Wanda Maximoff is truly only of the most tragic, fascinating, and powerful characters that Marvel comics has created. I'm so glad her character has gained recognition through these movies.
@@itsmytoast666 I'm sorry, just saw this! I'm geeking out over this though because I'm a HUGE Wanda fan. Other than House of M, some great events she's part of are the Young Avengers' Children's Crusade and the Avengers vs. X-Men. These aren't as focused on her awesome power (or poor mental health) but more so the effects of House of M on her personally, including her relationships with Vision, her kids and her friends/teammates. Her teaming up with Hope Summers and them using their powers together is pretty cool, though! All that to say, I can't recommend her All-New, All Different solo series enough! I think it does an amazing job of humanizing her and really defining her powers in the modern setting of the Marvel universe (they're much more linked to witchcraft now since they retconned her and Pietro being mutants.) Marvel also did a trade of some of her older stuff called Avengers: Scarlet Witch that has some of her most memorable moments/origin building from earlier comics. Hope that helps!
A robot that would go on to use his ex-girlfriend's brain patterns to build a wifebot to play house and get over their breakup. He even built twin children to raise just like the twins Wanda created.
Slight correction: Wanda's actually had powers longer than Dr. Strange. Strange gained his powers in 2016/2017, & Wanda gained hers in . . . 2014/2015? The thing that sets them apart it that Dr. Strange is an actual doctor in probably his mid 40s who attended med school for like 12 years, which assisted in his extensive study & mastery of the mystic arts, which has a centuries old rigid system in place for guided teaching. Wanda was about 16 in Age of Ultron, which would make her 19 in Infinity War & Endgame; she was a child when she 1st gained her powers. Not only that, but her powers were a man-made experiment; she had to teach herself all those abilities she showed in Age of Ultron, since no one really understood her powers. & even though she underwent training from the Avengers, they could really only teach her what THEY knew: strategy, covert operations techniques, & they probably taught her some basic offense & defense. But even still, she had to apply that to her abilities herself, & basically figure it out on her own.This is all when she was about 17. It's like Steve said in Civil War: "She's a kid." That would be what sets her apart from Strange.
That's what I was going to say. She's had her powers for longer than Strange, but he had an entire library to explain how they work and what he can use them for.
The other thing is that Doctor Strange is confirmed to have used the Time Stone to train for a tremendous amount of time - so when he gets his powers specifically doesn’t really mean anything, since really he’s had his powers for longer than anybody but Thor
I hope WandaVision is more of a character driven show. I want it to get weird! From my knowledge it's going to be about her going insane after the events of endgame.
I know a guy that worked on the series. He said it's going to be one of the most unique things Disney-Marvel has done. I doubt it'll be anywhere near Noah Hawley's genius take on Charles Xavier's son, Legion, but it sounds like it will be somewhere in the same vein.
@@lariegofredrichkarl7891, I was going to say: "Production was shut down and Wandavision was moved back. Disney-Marvel isn't budging from their scheduled release order, probably due to contracts that stipulate movies like BLACK WIDOW have to premiere in theaters." But it looks like it's being released early - December 2020... With only 6 episodes. So... Looks like they don't have confidence in their work.
I think it boils down to the ending. At the end of Endgame, Wanda has nobody, while Thor still has some good friends like Bruce, Valkyrie, Korg, the Guardians of Galaxy.
Idk Thor will always have the support of the remaining Asgardians, he got some pretty good closure for the deaths of both his parents, and will always have the purpose of having been a godlike warrior and protector which he seems to be returning to with his new buds. Wanda doesn’t have any of that support and the hands of fate for her have been violent and cruel, and those tragedies have been shaping her life since she was at least a teen growing up in a war, so a huge portion of her development. Thor was already a grownass god before it seems like he had to deal with any real hardship. Anyways that’s just my opinion on it, I totally see how Thor’s recent years has struck a cord in the hearts of us all. I feel like if Marvel went into a lot of characters more tragic backstories this would be a much hard choice too! Throw in baby Bruce Banner, raised by an abusive father who eventually killed his momma in front of him and manipulated baby Bruce to keep it a secret. Hm. Well. I’m sad now.
Sokovia would be a neat set up for this. Underneath the mythology of the Marvel Comics there is a lot of political nuance. Magneto is a holocaust survivor who (for a time and maybe once again when Axis is forgotten/re-re-retconned) had Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch with a Romani woman, a group that was also ethnically cleansed in the holocaust and has suffered the same fate for centuries. But what people don't remember is that Doom's affinity with Wanda is because he's ALSO Romani, and Latveria is the Genosha for his people, a place where he overthrew the previously oppressive nobility and ruled benevolently while threatening the rest of the world with destruction if they cross him. The Sokovians might need a homeland. If Latveria takes in the Sokovian refugees, you could see a crossover between Magneto, Scarlet Witch, Zemo, and Doom around their fate and their future.
I saw a similar idea to this on Reddit and I could definitely see the MCU doing it considering how they love tying multiple comic/movie elements together.
I mean I don't what Scarlet Witch has to do Sam and Bucky considering her only major interaction with them so far is battling on Team Cap and standing next to them in Tony's funeral.
@@themadtitan7603 yeah but in civil war there was to much going on and in infinity war there was to much going and none of them had enough screen time in endgame so the fact that we them standing together proves that they grew closer off screen and i think we need to see that on screen
And she was only standing next to them because they couldn’t fit her next all of Hawkeye’s family for that shot. Out of all of them, he’s who she’d be next to.
She has so much potential, yet the MCU has played it really safe, while also sidelining her for most of the films. I really hope after WandaVision they aren't afraid to go crazy with (which I head Doctor Strange was going to do, but since changing directors and firing the writer, I don't know if she's still in the film, and if so, in the same capacity).
What about Thor he literally lost Tony stark, his aunt, his parents, uncle Ben, and his friends meanwhile thor lost his parents, his kingdom, his brother, his eye, Jane foster, and his hammer
Great video, Nandalorian. Wanda is a great character, and has experienced so much hardship which makes her very interesting to watch in every movie, and the fact that she is arguably one of the most powerful superhero’s we have seen in the MCU, along with others like Captain Marvel, Vision (except in Infinity War, when he was mega nerfed by the glaive), Thor, and (hear me out) Star Lord before Ego died, and a few others. Speaking of Thor, I think he has also gone through a lot of hardships, different from Wanda’s but still very damaging. Thor himself kind of sums it up in Infinity War when he’s talking to Rocket about his dad dying, mom dying, brother dying for the 3rd+ time (but this time for real), Heindal dying, Asgard obliterated by Surtur, most asgardians killed by thanos, etc etc. These hardships are different from Wanda’s, like Wanda had to sacrifice her robot boyfriend in an effort to save half of all life, and he explodes in front of her, then he is ressurected, only for Thanos to rip the Mind stone from his head like a sticker from an apple. But you have to admit,Thor has gone through a lot. That being said, we have known Thor longer, and I am super excited to see what happens to Scarlet Witch in future movies, she really is one of my favorite characters to watch in every movie she’s been in.
I wish we got more quicksilver instead of him just dying for what feels like no reason Edit: Ay i gotta lot of likes so imma shamelessly promote my channel
Watching this video after the first 6 episodes of WandaVision have been released and you were absolutely correct. All those aspects make her fascinating and I really hope she becomes one of the biggest characters, if not the main character, of the MCU going forward.
I would say Rocket has been through the most because he was tested on his whole life escapes. Finds a friend and watches him sacrifice himself, raises him like a son then watches his "son" die and an even bigger stomp in the face hears that his family dies, this is what I think makes rocket's story more tragic than Wanda's. Rocket then saw his only way to get his family back destroyed ands to deal with it for 5 years and has survivors guilt. So this is the reason why I think Rocket has been through the most in the MCU.
Yeah i know but r now, rocket is not in pain, because the guardians are back, he is in terms with quill, groot is back, and he has a family that truly loves him....so I think nando picked wanda because she is the only one who hasn't got any closure on her brother, lover, and life in general
I'd agree that Rocket would be in the top 5 for sure, but I am not sure he get the top spot if only because, yes, he has indeed gone through a traumatic creation period but it seems to me that after that he pretty much went about doing whatever he wanted, which included being a prick to everyone around him; which include being a prick to his longeest standing friend, namely Groot. After that, it's only the lost of Groot once to a sacrifice play (Which was that much of a sacrifice as he "resprouted" almost immediately after) and a second time to the snap (But then again: ALL of the survivors went through the same pain of that, so it does not put him higher up on the scale than any of those others). So while taking nothing away from Rocket, I'd still would put Steve Rogers as #1 contender with Wanda for the top spot (For the reasons I listed in another post) before looking at Rocket.
I love how comics' Wolverine's response to any threat is to pop his claws. Like, oh there is a being with cosmic-level power re-weaving the very fabric of reality? Maybe my very sharp claws can help.
FINALLY some love and respect for scarlet witch! she's been in my top three/five since infinity war but no one ever talks about her. spread the word nando, spread the word
“It’s unclear exactly when his movie(doctor strange) takes place” 5 years after the first avengers movie, that bald girl says so in endgame, hes only been a superhero for a short time
Which is weird since he became extremely powerful in such a short time frame, but for all know magic could easily explain that, especially since he had the time stone.
no one knows how long he spent in the dark dimension. could of been hours, days, weeks, years, centuries. and he has a photographic memory so that helped plus he was trained in magic and has a bunch of textbooks to reference back to. wanda had zero of that. she had three years to figure out her powers (she still hasn't) and she had no help whatsoever. so i think comparing her to Doctor strange isn't fair.
I second that with Thor coming close Lost his Mother and then in just a few days -Lost his Father -Lost His Hammer -Lost his Planet -Lost His Brother -Failed the Universe by not Aiming for the Head, then in just pure regret aim for it, but rather pointless. My guess is Scarlet will become even more dramatic in Doctor Strange 2 and further.
Wanda is my favorite Avenger, and has been for 30 years. Elizabeth Olsen does an amazing job, and I am excited to see her character further explored in Wandavision. I would love to see Wiccan, Speed, Kate, Cassie (although she is technically already in the movies), and the rest of the Young Avengers come into the MCU, and hope that this is leading up to them entering the fray. Thor and Captain Marvel are amazing and powerful AF, but Wanda is a walking Infinity Gauntlet: She just doesn't know it yet. Thanks for the great video!
ah yes I love an appreciation video for Wanda ♥️ I've always thought that people in the mcu fandom never gives her the recognition she deserves and just forget about all she's lived through. and I'm so excited for wandavision 😍 thank you for your content nando always giving us the best.
I love her, she's a boss level... she's only just learning how to control her power, hence why she was more powerful than thanos, Danvers had 20 years to play with her power, Wanda has had like 5 minutes compared with that
I just can't wait for Agatha Harkness to be in MCU already. She's both Wanda's personal magic tutor and babysitter to Reed Richard's son. She's been alive for centuries, knew Wanda and Pietro's birth mother, was a premiere witch in Salem and worked as part of a secret ops team in WW2 designed to investigate supernatural threats from the Nazis. Also she has a housecat that can transform into an attack panther.
I admire your optimism that they're going to bother diving deep into her character rather than just use her to spark other character's stories and her powers for surface level spectacle like they have consistently for years now.
Can you make a vid on yinsen from iron man 1 I think he's an underrated and sometimes forgotten character but he litteraly saved and gave new meaning to tony Idk I just feel the character deserves more
Yeah he's been through a lot, but he's always had Steve. Everyone Wanda had either died or is out of the picture, she kinda has Clint, Bucky and Sam, but really, there's no one around that cares enough about her and there's nowhere for her in the world, whereas Bucky kinda has a place in the government maybe? Just looking at what are maybe gonna be the Disney+ shows you can see that Bucky belongs somewhere and Wanda, in order to have someone close to her, must create an imaginary reality with Vision.
César Torrealba eh not really. He was alone for like 70+ years and then Cap got old like 5 years into them finally reconnecting. Plus he was dead in most of Endgame....
@@EZ-IZZY1995 Bucky had Steve during his childhood years, young adult years, during the war, and post-Winter Soldier days. Plus he now has a place in Wakanda and is friends with Sam not to say his brainwashing days weren't tough, I just don't imagine he struggled to the same level Wanda did throughout her lifetime.
I was literally just watching old Nando v. Marvel videos and thinking the exact same premise of this new one. Perfect timing! You are, in my opinion, the foremost Marvel critic on TH-cam.
It's really a shame with how her powers have been treated so far throughout the MCU. Her powers haven't seen any development, so most would assume this is the full extent of her power. I feel, if they try to make her more like her comic counter-part and manipulate reality, people could see that as a kind of out of left field choice. Like it's giving a sudden power boost out of nowhere that doesn't really make sense.
I don't know, her powers definitely developed from AOU to Civil War to Infinity War and then Endgame. But I think the full-blown House of M stuff is being saved for WandaVision and Multiverse of Madness.
1) Her powers have _definitely_ developed with each movie she's been in. 2) *Her powers* are the exact same color as the energy given off by the *Reality Stone*
Not wanting to nitpick, unlike your podcast, Mostly Nitpicking, but I do believe if you won't play The Last of Us 2, I highly recommend you take a look at Just Write's recent video analysis on why the game is so successful in creating a highly emotionally tragic story in Ellie. I do think you will like it. And yes, Wanda is kinda tragic, but compared to what Naughty Dog was able to inflict on the gamers themselves, they created a textbook on how to emotionally torture people while keeping them playing. It's amazing.
Nah, Marvel has so many amazing villains that are actually villains to introduce. There's no need to force a hero character to be a villain for no better reason.
In her first comic appearance she did have a red costume, but certain covers for the comic book had her outfit be green just because it worked best with the background and other characters.
So far I think she has the potential to be "The most interesting character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe" still haven't realized that potential (of course that's probably going to change very quickly after WandaVision and Dr Strange and the Multiverse of Madness).
Thank you! She’s been my favorite forever, I do kinda wish they’d waited until after they introduced mutants bc I don’t love her origin in this verse, but her comic runs are all amazing and she has the potential to be equally compelling in this verse (I do wish they hadn’t whitewashed her tho)
Something I really wish we could've seen was a budding friendship between Bucky & Wanda. Think about it: they both have been misplaced (Bucky from his time & Wanda from her country), they both likely suffer from mental health problems (who am I kidding THEY TOTALLY DO), they both operated under Hydra, they were manipulated & used for great evil against the world, they both did some pretty terrible things involving the deaths of dozens, they were both hunted & shunned because of these deaths - which they had no intention of causing, they both speak Russian (based on the writing in Sokovia, it's safe to say that Wanda grew up speaking a certain Russian dialect) they're both most definitely bisexual (don't try to argue w/ me: it was confirmed in comics that Bucky had a crush on Steve; plus the fact that of every Avenger she could've fallen for, Wanda fell for Vision BEFORE he took on a human appearance in Infinity War & is also technically genderless, also her jeans we cuffed in IW), they both lost the people closest to them (either because of death, time, or time travel), they both have abilities that allow them to overpower combatants that they haven't used since they debuted as enhanced because of guilt, they both have strong ties to Eastern Europe, they were both considered as "weapons" rather than people at some point, & they're both extremely haunted by the things they've done & most likely afraid of their own minds. I'd have loved to've seen more than Wanda preventing Black Panther's claws from ripping out Bucky's throat that 1 time. Tell me this wouldn't be an intriguing friendship. Tell me you wouldn't throw even more money at Disney+ for this. Oh well. Maybe there'll be a Falcon & Winter Soldier/WandaVision crossover episode that they'll use for more profit.
Great content!! I never realised how widely loved Wanda was until quite recently, there isn't one negative word said about her or Lizzie Olsen, that is almost impossible nowadays!
I'm so upset that they made the Scarlet Witch no longer Magneto's daughter. That's one of the worst retcons I ever saw in Marvel, and there have been many.
President Togekiss ikr? And with all the spiritual bullshit they’ve already pulled they could easily have still pulled off the second run of her comic without ruining her entire character? It annoys me to no end.
Honestly, Wanda feels like a more successful version of what they wanted Captain Marvel to be. She's emotional. But unlike with Captain Marvel, we actually see her being emotional and it can both be a strength and a weakness. She's uber powerful. But unlike CM there are checks on that power to prevent her from being OP, at least as of right now. And unlike CM, I actually want to know more about Wanda, and have ever since she was introduced.
Completely agree. I was so excited to see this video when looking through your vids I'd missed. I knew she'd never get her own movie which was really disappointing. That is until it was announced she'd get her own series which is much better for the character. She's much more complex than most of the others and needs the space to explore that in both her series than on into Dr Strange. Of everything that's been delayed I'm anxious to get to her story over just about anything else.
One reason I can't stand this year: No Wandavision! I wanted to see how she fell in love with Vision, even with the whole Civil War thing. Also, she is majorly powerful and I want to see how far her powers can go!
So, is everybody going to ignore the character who had her whole civilization eradicated only to be forced to undergo countless deathmatches against other children and being forcibly altered to become a more perfect fighting machine by the one responsible for the genocide, who convinced her that genocide was really the only way to end poverty? That this person was the only one she was allowed to be close to and that he presented himself as a voice of reason? Nebula is more tragic than Wanda.
She's definitely top tier MCU wise but if we're going with comic potential I think Strange takes the cake for consistently being universal or multiversal level for much of his history.
Finally someone else sees the potential of her character! Even though she doesn't get that much screentime, just keeping track of what happens to her reveals a very interesting story. My favorite part of her tragic backstory is that she gives Tony the hallucination that prompts him to make Ultron, leading to the events of the film including the destruction of Slovikia and her brother's death. It seems like she can't ever do anything without causing some deadly effect out of her control, making her very sympathetic.
Scarlet Witch has always been one of my favorite characters in general so I have always been obsessed with how they've used her in the MCU and wanted so much more
@@luislima3476 They are referring to Thor from Ragnarok to Endgame. He lost his father after missing his last years, lost his planet to prophecy, lost Heimdall, Loki and half of his people to Thanos, lost the battle to hubris, lost his (perceived) dignity to depression. Although things are looking better now
I'd say Thor has lost more people, but more of Wanda's experiences have been very bitter and unfair. That's not to say none of Thor's have, of course. But more for Wanda.
I mean Thor’s had like a solid 500 years that we’re pretty decent. Kind of a privileged god/king who wins every fight and is just really cool. In terms of his lifetime only like, a decade or so has been pretty bad? And like they’ve been BAD but his ratio is still solid
Man’s lost his dad, his mom, his brother, his friends, his eye, his homeworld, then he had to live with the guilt of being partly responsible for the snap. And he lost his abs.
Yep, I remember having a moment after Endgame where I stopped to think about where Wanda specifically would go next, feeling like her closest remaining acquaintance after that was Clint, who would be going back to retirement. Eventually I came to the correct deduction that the best place for her to go would be with Dr. Strange and the Sorcerers to figure more out about her powers, and I am very excited to see what the dynamic between those two will be like.
Still I hope Agatha Harkness will play a major role. She was Wanda's personal magic tutor for years. Agatha is centuries old, knew the twins' birth mother, was a premiere witch in old Salem and worked on a secret ops team during WW2 created to investigate supernatural threats from HYDRA. She is also Mr. Fantastic's governess/babysitter.
8:26 "Dr. Strange has been at this for a while." Considering the timeloop he was in, it is very unclear how long he has been around. Possibly the longest.
I could never agree more. I've always been supporting MCU Wanda before Infinity War because of how interesting and complex her character arcs are in the first two or three movies she's been in even though she's still underrated at the time and it's definitely undeniable that there are still flaws in writing her character and her character development. The point is I'm just glad that people are paying more attention to her now and she's definitely going to be one of the most defining characters for the Phase 4 MCU and onward.
Wanda or the Scarlet Witch leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I feel like her “no more mutants” feat was a terrible move that boosted her character’s status without consideration for where she might go. I would’ve had her ability be defined as immense raw mystical energy, allowing Doctor Strange or some other magic user to come in and be a mentor of sorts. I HATE ambiguity in superpower when it’s obvious that there’s no road map to where these abilities can go. Also hated the Hulk in the last two movies. I thought his lack of green was going to go somewhere great but then they popped out with pencil keyboard hulk.
There's a young avengers series called The Children's Crusade, and basically Dr. Doom kidnapped and brainwashed Wanda and her abilities have scaled because he trained her to use magic. You should read it, it's very entertaining!
She was a complete standout infinity war and I honestly CANNOT wait for WandaVision
Why are you suddenly everywhere?
Elizabeth killed it; her expression of absolute peace when she's turning into dust is heartbreaking... she have nothing last, so dying is somehow a blessing.
Yes, she was part of my top 3 highlights in both movies.
Beatriz Zacharias I know!
Lmao it’s you again
For a character who’s had a harder life, it’s gotta be Docter Doofenschmirtz, no doubt
100 % correct
On everything 💀
Both of his parents didn’t show up to his birth of course it’s doofenshmirts
He was forced to be a garden gnome for his own house and had to stand as still as a statue for hours
Thor takes silver?
She's been my favorite for a while. She's criminally underrated.
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Glad you said it too. Wanda is the strongest Avenger. Been saying this since Infinity War.
Not only did she hold off 5stone Thanos while destroying a stone, she was having a mental breakdown at the same time.
For sure
Captain Marvel is actually
Scarlett Witch is the "most powerful Avenger" in the MCU!
The MCU: The universe where all your favorite heroes are NERFED.
@@icecold4465 No. Absolutely not! Feige confirmed it was Wanda. He only said that to prop Carol up for her movie which wasn't even that good.
My vote would go to Doctor Strange, but ig Wanda is a close second.
I hate it when people say Capt. Marvel or Thor, as while they have brute physical strength, Wanda or Strange would destroy them through other means.
MCU Wanda: "My life is the most tragic!"
Comics Wanda: "Hold my beer."
The kids
Also freaking random as hell
@@accidentalmadness1708 OKAY BUT IN THE WANDAVISION TRAILERS WE HAVE A SHOT OF PREGNANT WANDA & THEN A SHOT OF 2 PACIFIERS POPPING OUT OF 2 CRIBS SO SHE'S GONNA WATCH HER KIDS DIE & THEN FIND THEIR REINCARNATIONS 15 YEARS LATER NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MCU Wanda: I don't think my life could get any more depressing.
MCU Writers: (chuckling while reading Scarlet Witch comics) *Honey, you've got a big storm coming*
CHTHON is going to show up.
@aydooknow almost every MCU fan cares about the comics
They really glossed over her relationship with Tony Stark in these movies and that always frustrated me. She forgave him really fast for the role he played in her parents’ death, and we never got to see her call him out on it to his face. We never see his reaction to that news. We never see him apologize. She just kinda does a face turn abruptly and it doesn’t really work.
The problem is most of her appearances so far have been in Avengers movies (besides Civil War that still had a huge roaster) which can't always include all these fulfilling interactions people are hoping for due to the scope and/or circumstances. Look at Bucky/Tony, I was hoping for them to have a moment in Infinity War or Endgame after Civil War but that didn't happen despite them fighting on the same battlefield and him being present in Tony's funeral.
i really doubt she forgives him. probably just didn’t bring it up for the sake of the team
There’s no way she just doesn’t bring it up. The whole reason that she has powers to begin with is her quest for revenge against Tony. She volunteered to be experimented on because she wanted to take him down. She isn’t an Avenger if not for her hatred of him. She starts down the path that leads to her brother’s death because of Tony. That doesn’t just magically go away.
If anything, it should have been her calling him out that would freak him out enough to want to be put in check, not the deaths of randos that he has no connection with. She’s a living, breathing consequence of who Tony used to be, and the films don’t do nearly enough with that.
Fun fact, her last interaction with Stark was literally her calling him out for grounding her in her room which was then followed by her raining dozens of car on his head. Not the best closure to their relationship I’d say
*for role he didnt play
*see her apologise
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I’m so glad Wanda is about to get the attention she deserves, she’s such a rich character with so much potential!
I second this!
IKR
Yes!
I'm just happy that they ditched the Russian accent
Yes! I know a guy that works on the show and he mentioned it's going to be one of the most unique things Disney-Marvel does. I doubt it'll come anywhere near Noah Hawley's genius Legion show, but I bet it dabbles in some of the same waters.
Wanda Maximoff is truly only of the most tragic, fascinating, and powerful characters that Marvel comics has created. I'm so glad her character has gained recognition through these movies.
Other than House of M, what are some good books to grab?
@@itsmytoast666 I'm sorry, just saw this! I'm geeking out over this though because I'm a HUGE Wanda fan.
Other than House of M, some great events she's part of are the Young Avengers' Children's Crusade and the Avengers vs. X-Men. These aren't as focused on her awesome power (or poor mental health) but more so the effects of House of M on her personally, including her relationships with Vision, her kids and her friends/teammates. Her teaming up with Hope Summers and them using their powers together is pretty cool, though!
All that to say, I can't recommend her All-New, All Different solo series enough! I think it does an amazing job of humanizing her and really defining her powers in the modern setting of the Marvel universe (they're much more linked to witchcraft now since they retconned her and Pietro being mutants.)
Marvel also did a trade of some of her older stuff called Avengers: Scarlet Witch that has some of her most memorable moments/origin building from earlier comics.
Hope that helps!
Y’all must be forgetting about Thor and Spider-Man
i love that you kept saying "robot boyfriend" instead of just boyfriend
Or robot
I'll give it up 😂
It’s a toaster
A robot that would go on to use his ex-girlfriend's brain patterns to build a wifebot to play house and get over their breakup. He even built twin children to raise just like the twins Wanda created.
~tHey aRE an UNuSuaL cOuPLe
Slight correction: Wanda's actually had powers longer than Dr. Strange. Strange gained his powers in 2016/2017, & Wanda gained hers in . . . 2014/2015? The thing that sets them apart it that Dr. Strange is an actual doctor in probably his mid 40s who attended med school for like 12 years, which assisted in his extensive study & mastery of the mystic arts, which has a centuries old rigid system in place for guided teaching. Wanda was about 16 in Age of Ultron, which would make her 19 in Infinity War & Endgame; she was a child when she 1st gained her powers. Not only that, but her powers were a man-made experiment; she had to teach herself all those abilities she showed in Age of Ultron, since no one really understood her powers. & even though she underwent training from the Avengers, they could really only teach her what THEY knew: strategy, covert operations techniques, & they probably taught her some basic offense & defense. But even still, she had to apply that to her abilities herself, & basically figure it out on her own.This is all when she was about 17. It's like Steve said in Civil War: "She's a kid." That would be what sets her apart from Strange.
That's what I was going to say. She's had her powers for longer than Strange, but he had an entire library to explain how they work and what he can use them for.
The other thing is that Doctor Strange is confirmed to have used the Time Stone to train for a tremendous amount of time - so when he gets his powers specifically doesn’t really mean anything, since really he’s had his powers for longer than anybody but Thor
Wanda wasn't 16 in AoU....
Big Mo Logan she probably wasn’t 16, but I do think it’s possible that she might have been 18-19 in AOU at the least.
@@adriannemichaels5237 It's possible she was 19, definitely not 16, but I think she was around 22-24.
I hope WandaVision is more of a character driven show. I want it to get weird! From my knowledge it's going to be about her going insane after the events of endgame.
I can't wait for WandaVision, but I'm trying to go into it without too much foreknowledge. I just hope they bring back Pietro, for part of the series.
I know a guy that worked on the series. He said it's going to be one of the most unique things Disney-Marvel has done. I doubt it'll be anywhere near Noah Hawley's genius take on Charles Xavier's son, Legion, but it sounds like it will be somewhere in the same vein.
Im getting tired of waiting tbh. Marvel should post a trailer by now if they want the hype to get going.
@@lariegofredrichkarl7891, I was going to say: "Production was shut down and Wandavision was moved back. Disney-Marvel isn't budging from their scheduled release order, probably due to contracts that stipulate movies like BLACK WIDOW have to premiere in theaters." But it looks like it's being released early - December 2020... With only 6 episodes. So... Looks like they don't have confidence in their work.
So what do you guys think about _WandaVision_ so far?
im not sure, i feel like thor losing his entire planet, both his parents, his brother and not going for the head might just be up there
I think it boils down to the ending. At the end of Endgame, Wanda has nobody, while Thor still has some good friends like Bruce, Valkyrie, Korg, the Guardians of Galaxy.
@Snehil Shrey So is your mum
Thor has also been through a lot, but I feel like Thor still has more people left and has new family now, while Wanda doesn't really
Agreed
Idk Thor will always have the support of the remaining Asgardians, he got some pretty good closure for the deaths of both his parents, and will always have the purpose of having been a godlike warrior and protector which he seems to be returning to with his new buds. Wanda doesn’t have any of that support and the hands of fate for her have been violent and cruel, and those tragedies have been shaping her life since she was at least a teen growing up in a war, so a huge portion of her development. Thor was already a grownass god before it seems like he had to deal with any real hardship. Anyways that’s just my opinion on it, I totally see how Thor’s recent years has struck a cord in the hearts of us all.
I feel like if Marvel went into a lot of characters more tragic backstories this would be a much hard choice too! Throw in baby Bruce Banner, raised by an abusive father who eventually killed his momma in front of him and manipulated baby Bruce to keep it a secret.
Hm. Well. I’m sad now.
Sokovia would be a neat set up for this.
Underneath the mythology of the Marvel Comics there is a lot of political nuance. Magneto is a holocaust survivor who (for a time and maybe once again when Axis is forgotten/re-re-retconned) had Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch with a Romani woman, a group that was also ethnically cleansed in the holocaust and has suffered the same fate for centuries. But what people don't remember is that Doom's affinity with Wanda is because he's ALSO Romani, and Latveria is the Genosha for his people, a place where he overthrew the previously oppressive nobility and ruled benevolently while threatening the rest of the world with destruction if they cross him.
The Sokovians might need a homeland. If Latveria takes in the Sokovian refugees, you could see a crossover between Magneto, Scarlet Witch, Zemo, and Doom around their fate and their future.
I saw a similar idea to this on Reddit and I could definitely see the MCU doing it considering how they love tying multiple comic/movie elements together.
Too good to be true. Wishful thinking.
There's also a rumor that Falcon and The Winter Soldier will introduce Latveria on one of its episodes.
I hope we see wanda, bucky and sams friendship grow
I mean I don't what Scarlet Witch has to do Sam and Bucky considering her only major interaction with them so far is battling on Team Cap and standing next to them in Tony's funeral.
@@themadtitan7603 yeah but in civil war there was to much going on and in infinity war there was to much going and none of them had enough screen time in endgame so the fact that we them standing together proves that they grew closer off screen and i think we need to see that on screen
And she was only standing next to them because they couldn’t fit her next all of Hawkeye’s family for that shot. Out of all of them, he’s who she’d be next to.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen them interact with each other.
She has so much potential, yet the MCU has played it really safe, while also sidelining her for most of the films. I really hope after WandaVision they aren't afraid to go crazy with (which I head Doctor Strange was going to do, but since changing directors and firing the writer, I don't know if she's still in the film, and if so, in the same capacity).
"Antman and Spiderman, doing their own *small* er things"
Nando you are a genius
Nebula would like a moment on the discussion of tragedy.
That said, it isn’t tragedy unless there is hope.
What about Thor he literally lost Tony stark, his aunt, his parents, uncle Ben, and his friends meanwhile thor lost his parents, his kingdom, his brother, his eye, Jane foster, and his hammer
People have been sleeping on Scarlet Witch and can't wait for her own series, and future movies
Great video, Nandalorian.
Wanda is a great character, and has experienced so much hardship which makes her very interesting to watch in every movie, and the fact that she is arguably one of the most powerful superhero’s we have seen in the MCU, along with others like Captain Marvel, Vision (except in Infinity War, when he was mega nerfed by the glaive), Thor, and (hear me out) Star Lord before Ego died, and a few others.
Speaking of Thor, I think he has also gone through a lot of hardships, different from Wanda’s but still very damaging. Thor himself kind of sums it up in Infinity War when he’s talking to Rocket about his dad dying, mom dying, brother dying for the 3rd+ time (but this time for real), Heindal dying, Asgard obliterated by Surtur, most asgardians killed by thanos, etc etc. These hardships are different from Wanda’s, like Wanda had to sacrifice her robot boyfriend in an effort to save half of all life, and he explodes in front of her, then he is ressurected, only for Thanos to rip the Mind stone from his head like a sticker from an apple. But you have to admit,Thor has gone through a lot.
That being said, we have known Thor longer, and I am super excited to see what happens to Scarlet Witch in future movies, she really is one of my favorite characters to watch in every movie she’s been in.
WANDA 👏 WAS 👏 ABOUT 👏 TO 👏 PERFORM 👏 A 👏 *FATALITY* 👏 ON 👏 THANOS
We wanted to see it!
WandaVision just brought that up! 👏
I wish we got more quicksilver instead of him just dying for what feels like no reason
Edit: Ay i gotta lot of likes so imma shamelessly promote my channel
Nah, MCU quicksilver is a boring character.
hoping he comes back from wanda vision, especially since fox merged with disney
@@lifeloverNorris I used to think that, but I liked him a little more when I rewatched phases 1 and 2 on Disney Plus and got to Age of Ultron.
@@zackgravity7284 I hope the mcu Wanda gets to meet the X-Men series of Pietro.
Maybe Hawkeye should have dies, as was the original plan.
I wouldn't mind having Scarlet witch leading the avengers, she's amazing
Watching this video after the first 6 episodes of WandaVision have been released and you were absolutely correct. All those aspects make her fascinating and I really hope she becomes one of the biggest characters, if not the main character, of the MCU going forward.
I would say Rocket has been through the most because he was tested on his whole life escapes. Finds a friend and watches him sacrifice himself, raises him like a son then watches his "son" die and an even bigger stomp in the face hears that his family dies, this is what I think makes rocket's story more tragic than Wanda's. Rocket then saw his only way to get his family back destroyed ands to deal with it for 5 years and has survivors guilt. So this is the reason why I think Rocket has been through the most in the MCU.
I do agree but he did get most of it back in the end
Yeah i know but r now, rocket is not in pain, because the guardians are back, he is in terms with quill, groot is back, and he has a family that truly loves him....so I think nando picked wanda because she is the only one who hasn't got any closure on her brother, lover, and life in general
I'd agree that Rocket would be in the top 5 for sure, but I am not sure he get the top spot if only because, yes, he has indeed gone through a traumatic creation period but it seems to me that after that he pretty much went about doing whatever he wanted, which included being a prick to everyone around him; which include being a prick to his longeest standing friend, namely Groot. After that, it's only the lost of Groot once to a sacrifice play (Which was that much of a sacrifice as he "resprouted" almost immediately after) and a second time to the snap (But then again: ALL of the survivors went through the same pain of that, so it does not put him higher up on the scale than any of those others).
So while taking nothing away from Rocket, I'd still would put Steve Rogers as #1 contender with Wanda for the top spot (For the reasons I listed in another post) before looking at Rocket.
You're not wrong but everyone he cared about was brought back, even Gamora, who was actually dead.
I feel like Tony, Cap and Thor are also all really good counterparts with all of the physical and mental pain they have been through.
5:08 Cap's not dead btw... he's just old
but people think he's dead, like he showed up in the tribute at the start of Far From Home
He also passed on the shield, so there’s a new Cap in town.
Obviously. He showed a clip of him being old. But you know what he meant.
@@kaitlyn__L You could argue that since he went under the radar after Endgame the public assumed he was dead.
U mean Steve Rogers
Back here after wandavision episode 5 and it’s fun to see that all of this is how the show is shaped.
I’m so happy Wanda is finally starting to get the respect she deserves. She’s been my favorite character for about 20 years.
I love how comics' Wolverine's response to any threat is to pop his claws. Like, oh there is a being with cosmic-level power re-weaving the very fabric of reality? Maybe my very sharp claws can help.
FINALLY some love and respect for scarlet witch! she's been in my top three/five since infinity war but no one ever talks about her. spread the word nando, spread the word
“It’s unclear exactly when his movie(doctor strange) takes place” 5 years after the first avengers movie, that bald girl says so in endgame, hes only been a superhero for a short time
Which is weird since he became extremely powerful in such a short time frame, but for all know magic could easily explain that, especially since he had the time stone.
@@trentonsmith4869 He's also a genius.
@@trentonsmith4869 He's extremely gifted, his own movie states so
no one knows how long he spent in the dark dimension. could of been hours, days, weeks, years, centuries. and he has a photographic memory so that helped plus he was trained in magic and has a bunch of textbooks to reference back to. wanda had zero of that. she had three years to figure out her powers (she still hasn't) and she had no help whatsoever. so i think comparing her to Doctor strange isn't fair.
@@tyobrien6071 It's confirmed by the producers of his movie that he spent only 15 minutes in the dark dimension.
I second that with Thor coming close
Lost his Mother and then in just a few days
-Lost his Father
-Lost His Hammer
-Lost his Planet
-Lost His Brother
-Failed the Universe by not Aiming for the Head, then in just pure regret aim for it, but rather pointless.
My guess is Scarlet will become even more dramatic in Doctor Strange 2 and further.
Thor and Wanda should put out a country music album.
This video NEEDS a followup now that WandaVision is over
I hope she gets an arc where she trains under Dr. Strange. Have him just blown away with how strong she is and maybe train her as his successor.
She's not a Wizard, though
shes in the next dr strange movie
@@blyzer7373 she is a witch by birth. (in the comics)
@@tyobrien6071 This aint comics. She is an "enhanced" individual.
@@blyzer7373 Wouldn't Strange be able to teach her magic then?
Wanda is my favorite Avenger, and has been for 30 years. Elizabeth Olsen does an amazing job, and I am excited to see her character further explored in Wandavision. I would love to see Wiccan, Speed, Kate, Cassie (although she is technically already in the movies), and the rest of the Young Avengers come into the MCU, and hope that this is leading up to them entering the fray. Thor and Captain Marvel are amazing and powerful AF, but Wanda is a walking Infinity Gauntlet: She just doesn't know it yet. Thanks for the great video!
I was expecting you to say "And lastly, she's HOOOOOOT"
Not only the character itself but Elizabeth Olsen herself is what Scarlet Witch my favorite character from the MCU.
"maybe she's responsible for bringing in the fox X-Men characters"
You don't say...
She didn't wear the green costume in the actual comic, just the cover
Exactly
Congratulations, you're a prophet.
ah yes I love an appreciation video for Wanda ♥️ I've always thought that people in the mcu fandom never gives her the recognition she deserves and just forget about all she's lived through. and I'm so excited for wandavision 😍 thank you for your content nando always giving us the best.
I love her, she's a boss level... she's only just learning how to control her power, hence why she was more powerful than thanos, Danvers had 20 years to play with her power, Wanda has had like 5 minutes compared with that
Also to answer a question of who has it harder than Ellie from the Last of Us ...
Darth Vader, , Scorpion, Jessie Pinkman, Vegeta, and Spawn
You forgot Doctor Doofenschmirtz
Azula and Zuko
AC Air Conditioning underrated comment
@@randompeo4521 Azula and Zuko don't have it that bad
Wolverine
Wanda has so many loose ends left from endgame. I can wait to see her Dr. Strange team up. That's MCU magic wielding dream team!
I just can't wait for Agatha Harkness to be in MCU already. She's both Wanda's personal magic tutor and babysitter to Reed Richard's son. She's been alive for centuries, knew Wanda and Pietro's birth mother, was a premiere witch in Salem and worked as part of a secret ops team in WW2 designed to investigate supernatural threats from the Nazis. Also she has a housecat that can transform into an attack panther.
I admire your optimism that they're going to bother diving deep into her character rather than just use her to spark other character's stories and her powers for surface level spectacle like they have consistently for years now.
Can you make a vid on yinsen from iron man 1
I think he's an underrated and sometimes forgotten character but he litteraly saved and gave new meaning to tony
Idk I just feel the character deserves more
The dude in the cave?
@@thesamuraiman yeah
I'd love that, but he's had maybe 11-12 minutes of screentime in the whole MCU.
@@maninthetrenchcoat5603 yeah but he probably does one of the most important things for the mcu
He changes Tony's life
He's a classic mentor figure, there is not much to say
I think in the MCU, so far, Bucky Barnes has had a more tragic story.
I absolutely agree!
Yeah he's been through a lot, but he's always had Steve. Everyone Wanda had either died or is out of the picture, she kinda has Clint, Bucky and Sam, but really, there's no one around that cares enough about her and there's nowhere for her in the world, whereas Bucky kinda has a place in the government maybe? Just looking at what are maybe gonna be the Disney+ shows you can see that Bucky belongs somewhere and Wanda, in order to have someone close to her, must create an imaginary reality with Vision.
@@cesarwitha_t he tried to kill Steve?
César Torrealba eh not really. He was alone for like 70+ years and then Cap got old like 5 years into them finally reconnecting. Plus he was dead in most of Endgame....
@@EZ-IZZY1995 Bucky had Steve during his childhood years, young adult years, during the war, and post-Winter Soldier days. Plus he now has a place in Wakanda and is friends with Sam not to say his brainwashing days weren't tough, I just don't imagine he struggled to the same level Wanda did throughout her lifetime.
Nando: briefly mentions TLOU in his video
Comment section: so you have chosen... death
I was literally just watching old Nando v. Marvel videos and thinking the exact same premise of this new one. Perfect timing! You are, in my opinion, the foremost Marvel critic on TH-cam.
Thank you for making this, Ive been waiting for a vid about wanda. I think she is one of the most complex and powerful characters in the mcu
It's really a shame with how her powers have been treated so far throughout the MCU. Her powers haven't seen any development, so most would assume this is the full extent of her power. I feel, if they try to make her more like her comic counter-part and manipulate reality, people could see that as a kind of out of left field choice. Like it's giving a sudden power boost out of nowhere that doesn't really make sense.
I don't know, her powers definitely developed from AOU to Civil War to Infinity War and then Endgame. But I think the full-blown House of M stuff is being saved for WandaVision and Multiverse of Madness.
1) Her powers have _definitely_ developed with each movie she's been in.
2) *Her powers* are the exact same color as the energy given off by the *Reality Stone*
Not wanting to nitpick, unlike your podcast, Mostly Nitpicking, but I do believe if you won't play The Last of Us 2, I highly recommend you take a look at Just Write's recent video analysis on why the game is so successful in creating a highly emotionally tragic story in Ellie. I do think you will like it. And yes, Wanda is kinda tragic, but compared to what Naughty Dog was able to inflict on the gamers themselves, they created a textbook on how to emotionally torture people while keeping them playing. It's amazing.
You got me super excited for WandaVision before I wasn’t really excited I just wanted to see what happens leading up Dr Strange 2 but now I can’t wait
She needs her own movie next
I really think that Wanda should be the next main villain of the MCU
They can have her destroy the FOX-Men Universes.
@@TheBigGSN5 Then she'd be a hero.
@@JusRed48 LOLOLLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOOLOL
3R1K 3STR4D4 yeah because don’t forget the house of M
Nah, Marvel has so many amazing villains that are actually villains to introduce. There's no need to force a hero character to be a villain for no better reason.
In the whole $15 thing happy is twice as expensive as vision.
Let that sink in
That little Fowl tease during the sponsor segment makes me really want to see you do a video about that trainwreck of a movie.
In her first comic appearance she did have a red costume, but certain covers for the comic book had her outfit be green just because it worked best with the background and other characters.
So far I think she has the potential to be "The most interesting character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe" still haven't realized that potential (of course that's probably going to change very quickly after WandaVision and Dr Strange and the Multiverse of Madness).
Thank you! She’s been my favorite forever, I do kinda wish they’d waited until after they introduced mutants bc I don’t love her origin in this verse, but her comic runs are all amazing and she has the potential to be equally compelling in this verse (I do wish they hadn’t whitewashed her tho)
Watching this today after WandaVision was interesting. You were pretty bang on.
I love watching this after WandaVision's series finale.
Something I really wish we could've seen was a budding friendship between Bucky & Wanda.
Think about it: they both have been misplaced (Bucky from his time & Wanda from her country), they both likely suffer from mental health problems (who am I kidding THEY TOTALLY DO), they both operated under Hydra, they were manipulated & used for great evil against the world, they both did some pretty terrible things involving the deaths of dozens, they were both hunted & shunned because of these deaths - which they had no intention of causing, they both speak Russian (based on the writing in Sokovia, it's safe to say that Wanda grew up speaking a certain Russian dialect) they're both most definitely bisexual (don't try to argue w/ me: it was confirmed in comics that Bucky had a crush on Steve; plus the fact that of every Avenger she could've fallen for, Wanda fell for Vision BEFORE he took on a human appearance in Infinity War & is also technically genderless, also her jeans we cuffed in IW), they both lost the people closest to them (either because of death, time, or time travel), they both have abilities that allow them to overpower combatants that they haven't used since they debuted as enhanced because of guilt, they both have strong ties to Eastern Europe, they were both considered as "weapons" rather than people at some point, & they're both extremely haunted by the things they've done & most likely afraid of their own minds.
I'd have loved to've seen more than Wanda preventing Black Panther's claws from ripping out Bucky's throat that 1 time.
Tell me this wouldn't be an intriguing friendship. Tell me you wouldn't throw even more money at Disney+ for this.
Oh well. Maybe there'll be a Falcon & Winter Soldier/WandaVision crossover episode that they'll use for more profit.
the only character I care about in the mcu
100% agree with the whole video! Great video .
Great content!!
I never realised how widely loved Wanda was until quite recently, there isn't one negative word said about her or Lizzie Olsen, that is almost impossible nowadays!
I'm so upset that they made the Scarlet Witch no longer Magneto's daughter. That's one of the worst retcons I ever saw in Marvel, and there have been many.
President Togekiss ikr? And with all the spiritual bullshit they’ve already pulled they could easily have still pulled off the second run of her comic without ruining her entire character? It annoys me to no end.
Same. It pretty much undos years of storytelling and it also makes her not a mutant which was a big part of her character. Also nice name
I just ignore those comics
Well, making her his daughter was a retcon to begin with. So it just retconned the retcon.
They didn't have the rights to X-Men...till very recently
Glad to see someone give Wanda her dues cause I feel like most people just go “Powers don’t make sense, BAD CHARACTER”
Thank you! Wanda has suffered soooo much loss since her introduction to the MCU. Cant wait to see it all come to a head in WandaVision and DS2
I've always liked this character, and loved her portrayal in the MCU. Still you got me even more psyched for where they are going with her.
Good job.
Honestly, Wanda feels like a more successful version of what they wanted Captain Marvel to be. She's emotional. But unlike with Captain Marvel, we actually see her being emotional and it can both be a strength and a weakness. She's uber powerful. But unlike CM there are checks on that power to prevent her from being OP, at least as of right now. And unlike CM, I actually want to know more about Wanda, and have ever since she was introduced.
Someone: Captain marvel is the most powerful avenger!
Nando: excuse me, but I must disagree
Feige confirmed that Wanda was
TVTropes mentioned! And in addition to all the reasons you mentioned, she's the prettiest character in the whole MCU too.
Completely agree. I was so excited to see this video when looking through your vids I'd missed. I knew she'd never get her own movie which was really disappointing. That is until it was announced she'd get her own series which is much better for the character. She's much more complex than most of the others and needs the space to explore that in both her series than on into Dr Strange. Of everything that's been delayed I'm anxious to get to her story over just about anything else.
One reason I can't stand this year: No Wandavision! I wanted to see how she fell in love with Vision, even with the whole Civil War thing. Also, she is majorly powerful and I want to see how far her powers can go!
Don't fret. WandaVision is now set to premiere in December. My source: tvline.com/2020/02/04/the-mandalorian-season-2-premiere-date-october/
bold choice for your one reason to hate on 2020
Remember when the first thing she said to him was that he is a monster that shoudl be destroyed?
So, is everybody going to ignore the character who had her whole civilization eradicated only to be forced to undergo countless deathmatches against other children and being forcibly altered to become a more perfect fighting machine by the one responsible for the genocide, who convinced her that genocide was really the only way to end poverty? That this person was the only one she was allowed to be close to and that he presented himself as a voice of reason?
Nebula is more tragic than Wanda.
I was gonna say Banner but his story is more interesting and sad in the comics (a good thing). Great video Nando 🙂🥳
I mean you basically nailed the big ideas of WandaVision, I'm impressed
I never really liked Wanda in the MCU but I do think she’s interesting storytelling wise for all the reasons you’ve stated
She's definitely top tier MCU wise but if we're going with comic potential I think Strange takes the cake for consistently being universal or multiversal level for much of his history.
Finally someone else sees the potential of her character! Even though she doesn't get that much screentime, just keeping track of what happens to her reveals a very interesting story. My favorite part of her tragic backstory is that she gives Tony the hallucination that prompts him to make Ultron, leading to the events of the film including the destruction of Slovikia and her brother's death. It seems like she can't ever do anything without causing some deadly effect out of her control, making her very sympathetic.
Scarlet Witch has always been one of my favorite characters in general so I have always been obsessed with how they've used her in the MCU and wanted so much more
“Who’s had it worse than Scarlet Witch?”
Bucky. Yeah, definitely Bucky. Like, no contest.
Yeah...he's in a pretty solid second place IMO
Devin Dykstra nah it’s thor
Fucking Bucky.
Thor?
@@luislima3476 They are referring to Thor from Ragnarok to Endgame. He lost his father after missing his last years, lost his planet to prophecy, lost Heimdall, Loki and half of his people to Thanos, lost the battle to hubris, lost his (perceived) dignity to depression. Although things are looking better now
Thor: am I a joke to you?
You became one in Endgame.
Haven’t finished this yet, but it’s good to see Wanda getting some recognition
all i want is them to bring back quicksilver, or at least mention him
Nah, they really need to bring MCU Pietro back. He deserves a real shot.
For a character who’s had it worse I’m definitively going Thor Odinson.
I'd say Thor has lost more people, but more of Wanda's experiences have been very bitter and unfair. That's not to say none of Thor's have, of course. But more for Wanda.
I agree
I mean Thor’s had like a solid 500 years that we’re pretty decent. Kind of a privileged god/king who wins every fight and is just really cool. In terms of his lifetime only like, a decade or so has been pretty bad? And like they’ve been BAD but his ratio is still solid
Man’s lost his dad, his mom, his brother, his friends, his eye, his homeworld, then he had to live with the guilt of being partly responsible for the snap. And he lost his abs.
wheybig297 yeah
Yep, I remember having a moment after Endgame where I stopped to think about where Wanda specifically would go next, feeling like her closest remaining acquaintance after that was Clint, who would be going back to retirement. Eventually I came to the correct deduction that the best place for her to go would be with Dr. Strange and the Sorcerers to figure more out about her powers, and I am very excited to see what the dynamic between those two will be like.
Still I hope Agatha Harkness will play a major role. She was Wanda's personal magic tutor for years. Agatha is centuries old, knew the twins' birth mother, was a premiere witch in old Salem and worked on a secret ops team during WW2 created to investigate supernatural threats from HYDRA. She is also Mr. Fantastic's governess/babysitter.
8:26 "Dr. Strange has been at this for a while." Considering the timeloop he was in, it is very unclear how long he has been around. Possibly the longest.
Well when you put it like that, yes, she definitely is the most interesting MCU character atm.
I wanda like her, I just can’t vision her as an interesting character
just wait
The show and Dr Strange 2 will change that.
@@themadtitan7603 true i gotta admit, that's hype
@@themadtitan7603 did you like the pun tho
what about you simon
I could never agree more. I've always been supporting MCU Wanda before Infinity War because of how interesting and complex her character arcs are in the first two or three movies she's been in even though she's still underrated at the time and it's definitely undeniable that there are still flaws in writing her character and her character development. The point is I'm just glad that people are paying more attention to her now and she's definitely going to be one of the most defining characters for the Phase 4 MCU and onward.
6:07 "The big players in this universe right now are T'Challa"
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You need to update this video now that WandaVision is out. Vision and her kinda sorta kids are kinda sorta killed again. This girl can't catch a break
Wanda or the Scarlet Witch leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I feel like her “no more mutants” feat was a terrible move that boosted her character’s status without consideration for where she might go. I would’ve had her ability be defined as immense raw mystical energy, allowing Doctor Strange or some other magic user to come in and be a mentor of sorts. I HATE ambiguity in superpower when it’s obvious that there’s no road map to where these abilities can go. Also hated the Hulk in the last two movies. I thought his lack of green was going to go somewhere great but then they popped out with pencil keyboard hulk.
There's a young avengers series called The Children's Crusade, and basically Dr. Doom kidnapped and brainwashed Wanda and her abilities have scaled because he trained her to use magic. You should read it, it's very entertaining!
Watching this after having seen WandaVision is amazing
Wanda: My life is the most difficult.
Nebula: Am I a joke to you?
Personally, I would have called WandaVison Seeing Red. 😝
Wonder if they'll have any mention of the Emerald Warlock.
Frank Castle has had the hardest life tho..
Oof yeah
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Can't ever be late for one of your videos.
Wanda WAS a glass cannon before Endgame. After that battle with Thanos, I’m pretty sure she could resist any hit from Hulk or CM
This aged well