It's interesting that game IS beatable even under these circumstances. It shows how simple and casual original PvZ 1 was and why hardcore mods for it (like hard mode, brutal and pvz enhanced) are so popular.
This honestly feels like a realism mode sort of thing. It actually feels like your peas are peas and the zombies are real, due to how little damage they do.
I feel I could of been more clear. It is to op if it has a fast recharge time but otherwise its just part of the special rules. its not weird to have such rules in a fre situations actually help you. Only something far to gamebreaking should be completly banned. I don't think it's to op to be banned.
Honestly the visual sprite glow-up to make every zombie look giga is very cool. The contents of the mod itself doesn’t exactly look very fun, but I could see ways to make it not painful super difficult challenge that would be exciting and not hair-pulling.
challenge idea (but i have no idea if its possible to make it): Every time you place a plant, a zombotany zombie spawns with that same plant on its head.
Unless you can coding a thousand puff shrooms on botany I don't think this challenge is possible because half the plants don't have a zombotany counterpart.
i think banning plants like tangle kelp and blover kind of goes completely against the entire point of plants like tangle kelp and blover. they kind of are there TO be cheese plants to very quickly and reactionarily delete certain zombies, and even with x12 health i think they are still very balanced. i think Chomper is ok to ban, though, because Chomper was clearly not designed with the ability to just totally delete a Giga Gargantuar for basically free in mind. in the base game, the only Zombies chomper can't instakill will ALWAYS kill Chomper before Chomper could ever reasonably kill them, so banning Chomper makes sense.
I have to say, before the explanation on how zombie health works in Jchen's video, I always though zombies without their heads taking shots was unintended behavior, can't help but wonder why they did it this way from a game design perspective.
One guess is they just thought it would be a nice touch to their death animation. Or hacked it together because of some inscrutable combination of design principles and technical requirements.
Now that I think about it, it could be partly due to readability/consistency. Maybe they wanted the zombie to go on for a few seconds without a head, but making it phase through projectiles would just seem weird and kinda mess with the player, so making it still block projectiles and take damage just makes it a more believable object in the game world and makes it make more sense at a glance.
@@Przemko27ZI have also noticed the zombies actually fall down quicker if you keep shooting them, plus this also explains why cherry bomb does not turn them into ash.
Wow Samen! You don't have to make yourself suffer by playing this nightmarish mod. But then again, this is a very interesting mod too! Great job showcasing this mod as always!
"And since we cannot kill any coneheads in this level as they have almost as much health as a giga gargantuar we will use the lawnmower trick from before".Those have to be next level zombies right there.
No way the next sequel to the giga mod has arrived, though according to luigicat's eye color list (Which is my canon) they should have yellow eyes. Nice video though I haven't finished it lol. Edit: you finally acknowledged tangle kelp in these mods lol (Unless it happened earlier). Edit 2: Looks like you fixed balloon zombies, awesome going. Edit 3: I think TASing some levels for good rng is perfectly fine. This challenge is frankly insane so I think it's fair. I mean by a technicality these odds are possible, just it'll take far too long to actually do. Heck, I couldn't even beat Ace of Vase in the Giga Mod without revealing all of the vases. Edit 4: I've never actually heard the proper explanation for why deleting the lawnmowers in Zomboss prevents zombies from spawning in those lanes before, but that makes sense. Edit 5: Zomboss in the giga mod does not have 2x HP. He has 32767 HP due to me not realizing you can use the int32 value for his health if it's too high.
Dam the way these mods are going it probably won’t be too long till a pvz 1 undying mod is released where a basic zombie has the health of dr zomboss and giga gargantuar are practically unkillable and will take over 100 cherry bombs to kill it!
Wow, did you really beated the game with 12× HP zombies? That was insane! You really beated Jchen! Also, something is wrong: even since the Giga Mod was released, Catapult Zombie's attacks were upgraded. This must not longer be allowed.
zombies with 12x health is a hard challenge but imagine Giga Gargantuar with 12x health ( straight up hell since Endless Survival will spam a lot of Gargs)
more extreme than 1 in 7.5 trillion
Hi RCCH
lol
@RCCH
Lol
58 secs ago@@SillyTopHatFrog
It's interesting that game IS beatable even under these circumstances. It shows how simple and casual original PvZ 1 was and why hardcore mods for it (like hard mode, brutal and pvz enhanced) are so popular.
Yof
It just shows how OP lawnmowers are lmao
Brutal Ex Plus💀
@@milanek1527 Brutal Ex but zombies are 12x tougher without sunflowers
@@Fezzezal bro thats impossible
This honestly feels like a realism mode sort of thing. It actually feels like your peas are peas and the zombies are real, due to how little damage they do.
Like the only thing dealing damage is the velocity of the peas lol
To be fair, I feel like if a pea the size of a basketball was hurdling toward you at high speeds, it'd do some admirable damage.
@@KingKablooieI'd consider it painful, but not admirable enough to stop an undead.
@@VeryRGOTI fair, I respect your point.
@@VeryRGOTIit absolutely would especially since zombies are usually portrayed as rotting
I love the recolor of the Zombinis. It reminds me of the ddt’s from btd6, with how fast and destructive they are.
The zombonis reminded me of smth but I couldn’t point it out and reading ur comment I was like ‘oh, so that’s what I was thinking about earlier’
3-10 in pvz is basically round 95 in btd6
I feel like hypnoschroom should of been allowed. It's not game breaking like chomper and this mechanic giving you a small advantage seems fine.
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I argue that it is more broken since it gives you a pretty beefy meat shield that also damages the enemies .
I feel I could of been more clear. It is to op if it has a fast recharge time but otherwise its just part of the special rules. its not weird to have such rules in a fre situations actually help you. Only something far to gamebreaking should be completly banned. I don't think it's to op to be banned.
@@danever159 it could just cheese certain big threats like football zombies or digger zombies that would be much more threatening without it
Of course it has value, but by “cheese” ain’t it just like tallnuts or umbrella “cheesing” burger zombies?
Honestly the visual sprite glow-up to make every zombie look giga is very cool. The contents of the mod itself doesn’t exactly look very fun, but I could see ways to make it not painful super difficult challenge that would be exciting and not hair-pulling.
11:08 i love how, at every point possible, you chose to make this more difficult lol
challenge idea (but i have no idea if its possible to make it):
Every time you place a plant, a zombotany zombie spawns with that same plant on its head.
Possible
I love this idea
hey, i had an idea for a mod that's similar, but different.
@PerfectionReincarnatedeven better, give every plant a zom botany counterpart for the mod
Unless you can coding a thousand puff shrooms on botany I don't think this challenge is possible because half the plants don't have a zombotany counterpart.
i think banning plants like tangle kelp and blover kind of goes completely against the entire point of plants like tangle kelp and blover. they kind of are there TO be cheese plants to very quickly and reactionarily delete certain zombies, and even with x12 health i think they are still very balanced. i think Chomper is ok to ban, though, because Chomper was clearly not designed with the ability to just totally delete a Giga Gargantuar for basically free in mind. in the base game, the only Zombies chomper can't instakill will ALWAYS kill Chomper before Chomper could ever reasonably kill them, so banning Chomper makes sense.
Chompers can't eat gargantuars period.
"Why won't you just die?!"
"Mods son, they harden in response to completing others"
Am I watching pvz or am I reading Mario's Madness quotes? Wait this is not Friday night funkin. Sorry guys it's not spooky month
@@Taceria ?????
@@Taceria It's a Metal Gear Rising quote.
@@Taceria Please stop using the internet until you are in your 20s.
@@Taceriathe brainrot is crazy
I have to say, before the explanation on how zombie health works in Jchen's video, I always though zombies without their heads taking shots was unintended behavior, can't help but wonder why they did it this way from a game design perspective.
One guess is they just thought it would be a nice touch to their death animation. Or hacked it together because of some inscrutable combination of design principles and technical requirements.
Now that I think about it, it could be partly due to readability/consistency. Maybe they wanted the zombie to go on for a few seconds without a head, but making it phase through projectiles would just seem weird and kinda mess with the player, so making it still block projectiles and take damage just makes it a more believable object in the game world and makes it make more sense at a glance.
@@Przemko27ZI have also noticed the zombies actually fall down quicker if you keep shooting them, plus this also explains why cherry bomb does not turn them into ash.
7:34 Rare footage of 1-10 actually being challenging
8:41 That Newspaper is going crazy over there
newspaper: **bass boosted moongrains**
pvz sunday edition newspaper zombie
At this point, I'm convinced you're a masochist. But since I'm enjoying your suffering does that mean I'm a sadist? Great content as always.
Yes. Yes it does
for when the 100x more health? (never)
There's a game called I Wanna Be the Sadist
very respectable how he prevents himself from cheesing it on multiple occasions
"Here let me break it down for you"
*proceeds to put a zombie dancing*
you missed the perfect joke opportunity
I love how chomper went from being debatably the worst plant into the game to literally so broken it had to be banned in this challenge
In the end, nothing changed. Nobody uses it :(
i dont understand why people think its bad, just dont use it as an attacking plant and suddenly, its one of the best in the game
I will post x20 later, to suprass samen :troll:
edit:changed my mind, because im bored
80 instantkill in Giga Gargantuan is insane
💀
Nah bro watch me do 100
No joke
Brother thought this was Discord breh
making himself suffer more by banning plants is legendary, especially on a level that took him 2 days to beat.
Wow Samen! You don't have to make yourself suffer by playing this nightmarish mod. But then again, this is a very interesting mod too! Great job showcasing this mod as always!
0:19 i heard seme-
The editing now are far better than the earlier day, wow
Fun fact:I used to call chomper “eat guy”.
survival endless 💀💀💀
Don't even mention it!!
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
"And since we cannot kill any coneheads in this level as they have almost as much health as a giga gargantuar we will use the lawnmower trick from before".Those have to be next level zombies right there.
Samen !!! your video is extremely good
Instead of a part two of this we got every world with different textures
No way the next sequel to the giga mod has arrived, though according to luigicat's eye color list (Which is my canon) they should have yellow eyes. Nice video though I haven't finished it lol.
Edit: you finally acknowledged tangle kelp in these mods lol (Unless it happened earlier).
Edit 2: Looks like you fixed balloon zombies, awesome going.
Edit 3: I think TASing some levels for good rng is perfectly fine. This challenge is frankly insane so I think it's fair. I mean by a technicality these odds are possible, just it'll take far too long to actually do. Heck, I couldn't even beat Ace of Vase in the Giga Mod without revealing all of the vases.
Edit 4: I've never actually heard the proper explanation for why deleting the lawnmowers in Zomboss prevents zombies from spawning in those lanes before, but that makes sense.
Edit 5: Zomboss in the giga mod does not have 2x HP. He has 32767 HP due to me not realizing you can use the int32 value for his health if it's too high.
how much more health is that?
Dam the way these mods are going it probably won’t be too long till a pvz 1 undying mod is released where a basic zombie has the health of dr zomboss and giga gargantuar are practically unkillable and will take over 100 cherry bombs to kill it!
8:41 fells like a "What is different about the Newspaper Zombie?" moment.
*Mod Difficulty Chart*
J = Jalapenos (the more Jalapenos, the harder it gets)
- PvZ Vanilla | 1J
- Big Wave Beach Vanilla | 2J
- Eclise | 2.5J~4J
- Minecraft Touhou PvZ | 3J
- PvZ Plus | 3.5J
- PvZ Remastered | 3.75J
- PvZ3 All Levels (No Powerups F2P) | 4J
- 10x HP Vanilla | 5.5J
- Brutal Mode | 6J
- Nightmare Mode | 6.75J
- Brutal Mode EX | 7J
- Brutal Mode (Red Text) | 7J
- WorldWar | 7.5J
- 12x Zombie HP Vanilla | 7.75J
- Brutal Mode EX Plus | 8.5J
- Eagrace | 8.75J
- Brutal Mode (Rainbow Text Level) | 9J
- Impossible Mode | 12.5J
Thanks for referring to my explanation in Jchen's video lol
But yours is so much better, and better visual too, good job!
hello Pea
Please do this, but zombies have 13x HP.
I love the Pokémon Black and White Driftveil City music.
Wow, imagine an endless survival with zombies with 12× original health
Nice informative video bro👨🌾🧟♀️ Crazy health on those zombos
You know, since you banned them I kind of want to see this exact challenge again only using the Chomper, Hypno Shroom, and tangle weed👍
I love how the zombies started to boogie when you killed them at night.
12:38 dancing Toothless in the background intensifies
(yes, I know the original has a regular lizard in it)
That comment for chomper was so on point! He is extremely valuable and good IF the zombies were actually strong, and not dying to peashooters alone
This is honestly the most impressive PvZ challenge I've watched
He can talk in regular vids now?! Awesome!!
Why did he baned plants(bro wants to suffer)
I can’t wait until basic zombies become gargantuars
This was definitely worth the long wait for a video!! But I do wonder when that mod impossible mode with cobcannon Gargantuan will be released?
You sound like a character from an animated Tim Burton film, and I mean that as a compliment.
I consider this to be more akin to how zombies would react with attack plants in real life
those rubber ducky floaties better be made of concrete if these zombies can survive hundreds of peas
Realy great Video! also Its nice to see a Fellow German doing a Hard and Creative Challange.
If thats how much health a buckethead has imagine how much much a giga gargantuar would have😢
Long awaited
Wow, did you really beated the game with 12× HP zombies? That was insane! You really beated Jchen!
Also, something is wrong: even since the Giga Mod was released, Catapult Zombie's attacks were upgraded. This must not longer be allowed.
ahh, quite a gentleman. i sure hope no interdimensional horror manifests a scroll which replaces all instances of the letter "a" with the letter "e".
Great video, love your commentary
amazing video happy to see youre making videos still
This was insane!!! Your content is awesome and unique
You're getting a lot better up the whole voice acting thing keep it up
these zombies are actually scary for once
cant wait for the minigame vid!
zombies with 12x health is a hard challenge but imagine Giga Gargantuar with 12x health ( straight up hell since Endless Survival will spam a lot of Gargs)
This mod literally makes survival endless harder since giga gargs are much much harder
Pov:
Plants vs Zombies Realistic Mode 😂
Plants vs Zombies, but the zombies didn't lost their indomitable human spirit
Bro imagine this mod combined with brutal ex or ex plus
You saved me. I was scared of ballon zombie but now, you showed that it is possible.
Chomper: Strong zombies? I am the solution all you need is a good economy :)
We need to see the minigames with this mod, it could be interesting...
7:28 referances several youtubers.
Chomper being in the S+ (banned) tier, as he always should be. Chomper best plant.
Fun fact: getting a scaredy shroom layout in I zombie 2 times in a row it takes 10¹¹ ( 1,000,000,000,000 )chance to show up again.
*Plants vs Zombies has inspired me to think critically and approach obstacles with resilience*
Wow you are a pro at your childhood game pvz is my childhood game to❤
Shock content brutal ex+++ gameplay footage!!!
Hypnoshroom and Chomper being banned made me sad as hell. Both of which are my favourite plants.
samen is the pvz skill god
I wanna see the dev's reaction to this
19:47 you got the 2k like !
I found another meaning of "Samen": "together"
For the begining, i think you can put the 2 peashooters just in front of zombies, it should work.
There are 2 types of ppl in this world
"Zombies have 12x more hp"
And
"plants do 12x less damage"
Its all fun and games until a zombie tanks a lawnmower
A Basic Zombie has 100 HP
a Pea Does 10 Damage
A Conehead has 650 HP
a Repeater does 20 Damage
a Buckethead has 1400 HP
and so on forward
All of that is wrong
A Basic has 270 HP
A pea does 20
A Conehead has 640 HP
A Repeater does 40
And a Buckethead has 1370 HP
nope a buckethead has 1100 hp and a conehead has idk i forgot but it was like 370 hp@@brawlmaster0190
@@Levster123 "Nope a bucket has 1100 HP and a cone has 370 HP"
Fixed it for you
alright thanks@@brawlmaster0190
oh wait thats the armor hp so you were right 1100+270=1370 370+270=640@@brawlmaster0190
Are you gonna make 100x health challenge? I know it is impossible but for the lol.
You have nice music taste! About myself, I really don't know much about music.
i’m surprised 3-2 wasn’t literal hell, usually they are in challenge runs
Basically Zomboss health zombies
9:26 YOU CURSED
hehehehe
Was quite surprised to find chomper was so broken you had to ban it.
Ah so we making zombie into goku by adding so Many health? Very cool
From this point on the zombies are literally acting realistic but they have six pillows around their body
*Who would win?* One extremely buff, strong, and huge zombie with a huge wooden weapon that can withstand 20 explosions
or one lawnmower?
Banning Hypno shroom seemed strange at first
then I saw 2-10
samen at the sight of the ice spear: I can identify myself
Gloom shroom is an absolute monster
pvz but zomboss gave the zombies some substances
New challenge: 10x HP zombies with peashooter only. All other plants are forbidden.
Cant wait for 20x HP Zombies and 20x Damage
So in this mod basic has 2400, conehead has 4800, buckethead 9600, football 19200, gargantuar 38400, Giga-gargantuar 76800 hp
0:45 zombies health is 190 and pea damage is 20
0:58 speaking of netherite helmet, do you play Minecraft?
7:28 funny moment 😂
14:12 oh no!
who doesn't
@@SamenPvz27% of people in the world do not play Minecraft, why?
the zombies are stronger than the guy she tells you not to worry about lmao
I just realized what his yt channel name sounds like 😳
*Giga Gargantuar* 💪🏻🔥