Laowa17mm F1.8 -Sharp and Tiny Wide Angle
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- Laowa17mm F1.8 -Sharp and Tiny Wide Angle
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0:00 intro
0.48 Lens Cap
1:59 Lens Intro
3:01 Build Quality
3:50 Size and Weight
4.22 Balance on Camera
5:29 Optical Formula
6:00 Close Up Capabilities
6:20 Stabilization
7:21 Focusing
8:34 Optical Performance
9:11 What is it Good for?
9:55 Wildlife Photography
10:27 Conclusion
11:15 Alternative Lenses
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![Olympus 17mm, 25mm and 45mm F1.8 - [Which One?]](/img/n.gif)
I believe we all share your frustration with lens hoods. I finally swore them off entirely. My solution - bear with me because this gets a little weird - is to discard both the cap and the lens hood. In their place install a screw-in metal lens hood of the appropriate type and a press-on rubber/plastic cap. Both the hood and the cap are available on-line from an array of sources, are essentally available in whatever size you need (in 1mm increments) and are quite inexpensive. I made this transition years ago and have never looked back. Whenever I buy anything that includes a press-on plastic cap I keep the cap and now have a box full.
Thanks for sharing, great tip.
I like the start -cool!
Thanks!
Used the link and just ordered it! Right now it's even less expensive than you posted in the vid :)
Awesome! Thank you!
First thing I did with my Laowas’s lenscap was I glued in two tiny pieces of sandpaper for grip. And gloves, yes but with their fingertips cut off.
Yeah, a good idea and if this was my lens, I'd do something similar.
I've bought this lens while watching your video after I got a bad (decentered) copy of the 14mm f/2.5and and after 2 days of using it I can say it's an excellent sharp lens. Only the vigneting wide open is terrible, but gives a vintage look which i kinda like. The starbursts also give a nice effect when sopped down. It is all in all a much sharper and better lens than the kit lens and fits nicely to my set of 25mm, 45mm and a telephoto zoom 45-175mm.
Thanks for sharing.
I share your frustration with the lens caps, I suspect almost everyone experiences this when they go out for a shoot :)) I have the Laowa 7.5 and love the build quality, the 17mm looks just as good. Thank's.
Thanks! It has to be a common frustration😀
This is a nice option but I think for 17mm there are better ones with AF, as you mentioned. A couple of months back I was lucky and found the Olympus 17mm F1.8 on sale brand new at just 260 USD equiv. I am very happy with it, the clutch manual focus ring is a fun option. It works flawlessly on my GX80. It is well built, looks good too :-) With M43 we are spoilt for choice, you cant really go wrong with any of these lenses.
True, there are so many choices in MFT.
Great review! I have the Laowa 7.5mm (thanks to your review:). My question: how is the Laowa 17mm for use as a video lens? Did your review have any video segments recorded with the 17mm?
Thanks. I have not really used that lens for video, but I think it could work quite well for that, if you don't mind about manual focus.
i have the 12-32 but i'd love to go manual and aperture ring for photos. AF i prefer for video. would this be much sharper than the already good 12-32 at 17mm ?
The Laowa is probably a bit sharper.
14mm f2.5 has the ultimate lense cap or some sort of. Removeable perfectly even with big gloves.
Lumix question: I have two Lumix cameras. G9 and the FZ2500. With both cameras set to 3:2 aspect ratio, and fine jpg, they produce two different size images. G9: 5184x3456 and the FZ2500: 5472x3648. Since both have 20mp sensors, what is going on here?
The sensor in the FZ2500 has native 3:2 aspect ratio and the G9 has 4:3, so the FZ2500 has no crop at 3:2.
@@mattisulanto Thank you for explaining that to me. It makes sense now! I'm thinking that the small sensor camera is better than most people give it credit! Providing of course that you are working with lots of light.
How does it compare with the Leica 15 mm optically (sharpness etc.) ?
You can probably see differences in lab tests, but in real life not much.
great car
Thanks! It's just an affordable small car😀
@@mattisulanto and also the great new car of my wife... the gt-line wasn´t affordable.
So annyway I hope it gives you a great time driving it.
I've got a question when using these manual focus lens on GX9. I find that there's no way to change Exposure Compensation from Q menu or by any button in M mode, only when I change to A mode, and from there I could change EC. How do you resolve this problem when using MF lens?
You have to use auto ISO on M to be able to use exposure compensation.
@@mattisulanto Yes, I am aware that pre-condition when I mount a native lens on GX9. My question is regard to non-native lens, for example, this Laowa that you use. Do you find a way to use EC on M when mount Laowa on the Panasonic body?
It’s a manual mode and exposure compensation does not work. If you want to under or over expose, you have to manually adjust shutter or aperture accordingly. However, if you use auto ISO, it’s no longer a manual mode and you can use exposure compensation. So, use auto ISO and you can use exposure compensation.
@@mattisulanto I get your point. However, I also asked the same question on dpreview, a G9 user confirms that there is different behavior between G9 and GX9 regard to this functionality (www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64537342 ), and simply on G9 auto iso and ec works as expected with manual focus lens, but not the case for GX9. Thanks anyway for your reply.
@@jianfeiwang1654I think he means that by having a fixed ISO number by using the Manual Mode you lose the ability to compensate, because there are no aspects that the camera could compensate with, as your aperiture number is mechanicaly actuated by your hand. So the only way to to change the exposure in that mode would be by changing the exposure time or switching to auto ISO.
Poor man in a so cold climate! Greathings from Tenerife Spain
This is where I am when it gets cold😀: th-cam.com/video/y9hVn5HeDys/w-d-xo.html
I've been looking for a 35mm equivalent for manual focusing. That could be it and it wouldn't break the budget.
Yes, this could be it.
Nice video. Is this better than ttartisans or 7artisan 17 mm? Worth the price over this two?
I have never used the 7artisan 17mm and therefore can't really say.
Great review as always. I have Laowa 7.5mm, too, and it's nice lens, but very expensive. It appear this 17mm is less than 1/2 of what I paid for 7.5mm. I already have 15mm Summilux which is one of my favorite lens (along with my Nikorr 70-200mm f/2.8).... BTW, I think your car's driver side shock is bad - it's lower on left side.
Thanks for sharing. The car is fine, it's an optical illusion in the video😀
@@mattisulanto Good! I had to change shock on my Volvo C70. Rear was easy, but front shock was major pain.
@@mattisulanto or is it Matti's fullframe gear in the left side of the trunk? :D
Part of me was expecting the car to reverse into the tripod/camera. Am I too mean?
It was not Olympus on the tripod😂
@@mattisulanto brilliant reply!
I had the same scenario in my head, Robin.
It would've been funny :-)
@@koos48 I won't wish it to happen if it was Olympus.
Die Tücke mit dem Deckel und schwups war er unten, recht bescheidenes Wetter am Ort.
No nyt en kyllä tajua mitä oikein kommentoit, mutta kiitos kuitenkin😀
With all these lenses from Meike and Laowa and 7Artisans, can Chinese MFT bodies be far behind? (I wish we could buy Peugeot cars in Canada. My first car was a 1971 Peugeot 204.)
Hard to say. It's two different things to make a mechanical "old school" lens and a computer, which a camera really is. However, we may well get some new cameras as well.
There was a Chinese M43 camera, called the Yi, I think. Not great by all accounts.
Which correction of geometry on pictures did you use? Btw. comparation with oly 17 did not make sence ... Oly and also panl 15 have aggresive correction (field of view is wider than 15/17 and the picture is cropped, the geometry in edges can be corrected). This laowa has no crop, no correction - so the edges are softer, but resolution is higher (just in theory :-)). I can just confirm that the resolution in center is better than on 17 mm pan 12-32 (but edges are worse)
I did not correct any distortions. Any comparison may or may not make sense, depending on who is looking. All those lenses take pictures and therefore, in my opinion, they can be compared. But I accept, that someone may think otherwise.
@@mattisulanto i mean comparation of sharpness, resolution and similar dicussions. Makes no sence, this is not voigtlander series and it is micro43:-). The photos itself have kind of vintage feeling - easy visible at 1.7
Is this best for street photography, because it doesn't have AF?
Well, it all depends what you mean by street photography.
The traditional street photography is often done at stopped down aperture to have lots of depth of field and therefore AF is not necessary. You set the lens at the hyperfocal distance that covers everything from about 2 m to infinity and you don't have to touch the focus after that. It's even faster than AF, because the lens is prefocused.
In the south you don't know what cold is. According to FMI it is now bbq wheater in Helsinki.
Probably not. What is bbq, then?
@@mattisulanto grillaus
@@ruuddirks5565 I have never heard of that either. It is photography related? Must be something that you do in the North😀
@@mattisulanto www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/making-barbecue-winter-578422708
@@mattisulanto bbq is short for barbecue 😋
What about voigtlander 17.5?
Definitely an option, but because it's F0.95 I did not mention it here.
@@mattisulanto ah i see.. because i already have the 42.5 i know its not the sharpest lens with the price, but its really fun to use and i wonder how the 17.5 feels
@@yoginwidhi6676 Voigtlander makes nice lenses, but I have not tried the 17.5mm.
I like your car, I own a Peugeot & Citroen 😜
Thanks. I don't have that car any more, but it was a nice little transport.
Gloves, even before there is snow on the ground?
Yes, why not? You should know, that it can be cold without any snow😀
Very similar mechanical stats to the leica 15mm f1.7
Can you do a shootout?
I'm afraid I have already returned the Laowa.
100 € more and you get the Olympus lens 17,mm/1.8, it s worth?
It's a personal preference. If you want AF, then it is worth definitely. MF is not for everyone or for every situation.
I own the Oly 17mm too, and the big advantage compared to the Leica 15mm f.ex. is, that it has a Focus clutch where you have hard stops for the focus. I don't think it's really a mechanically coupled focus though but it feels very much like one :)
I regret selling this lens.
You were fast. This lens is still listed as new on Laowa website.
Not very wide.
That is not a G9 that you are waving around! Nope.
Watch the video and you'll find out, at 4:20 😀
@@mattisulanto You say G9. Your G9 is different than mine. Mine has a display on top, yours does not.
@@lonnieharmond9400 In the video I say G90 and I think it's pretty clear even if my pronounciation is questionable as usual😀
@@mattisulanto Oh, OK! My bad!