lmao when Lari said whooooo to Kristiina and turned around and walked away.Wrong Kristiina when you said Lari doesn't have anyone.Larias two days in a row,only the beginning from friends to lovers:)
Talk about Kalle not being given any room to breathe by Sanni and Lari. He has only known for a short time, gave a man some time to get his head around things.
+sabinasabina2010 It's incredible! Lari and Sanni have both betrayed him and then expect him to sit nicely and listen to their excuses when it's convenient for them? Give the poor guy a break!
You could cut the tension in the sitting room with a knife before Kalle blew up- but what did Lari and Sanni expect? They given him no time at all to come to terms with anything.
I don't like where this is going, I want Elias and Lari to get back with each other but not with the expense of another heart being broken, poor Kalle his really a nice guy. :(
+Ezzy Salvani We knew that Kalle was going to get his heart broken as soon as the show made Lari & Kalle a couple, because from the long view this particular story has always been about Elias & Lari.
+Elias' Story Kalle is the king of throwing his toys out of the pram. His sister is 16 and he has no compassion for her. He is not even willing to sit down and calmly talk to her about it. He is too old to act like an angst teen in my opinion. He was rushing everything with Lari to fill some kind of void and now he is acting like his life is over. He hardly knows Lari TBH. He seems to only be able to deal with people when they are doing exactly what he wants otherwise he just flails. Even if he did not want to see Lari or his father, he could have asked them to leave and just spent some time with his sister who needs him. Sanni is no angel but she is a teen mom and she is his blood. Sisters are forever.
***** Kalle threw them out of his apartment. That doesn't necessarily mean that he's thrown them out of his life. He needs some time to adjust to Lari's & Sanni's betrayal and Kristina's worse than betrayal. He could use a friend the way Lari has Elias to turn to, but apparently he doesn't have one.
"How can you tell you brother you had a kid with his boyfriend?" " By speaking clear finnish language" that cracked me up, it's so true. If they had been honest from the beginning things would not have been half as bad and that goes for everyone.
+janitajasmin Elias cares about people. I don't think he has romantic feelings for Lari yet. Of course, he will eventually, but I hope they don't rush it.
+teve oh Was it "big-L" that has simmered to "little-L" love? Elias may want to take the pan off the burner for a while and focus on simply (if only it were simple) [strike:offer] [substitute: offering] his friendship and counsel.
***** Although I don't remember now Elias' saying that, it sounds in character. Taking things now, however, as they are, Elias doesn't seem romantically interested in Lari, nor Lari in him. That's why they're so comfortable with each other. This is (for me at least) a very enjoyable phase in their relationship.
+janitajasmin I also think elias had feelings for lari when he came back from brussels. He seemed so weird always when lari was brought up in conversations and all. I definitely think that lari still loves kalle. I have no idea how the writers will play out this situation but I hope elias and lari end up together!
Me siento adicto a Elias y Lari. Me alegra cuando los escritores se vuelven como locos al escribir y me gusta ver como en Finlandia hay personas con sentimientos tan parecidos a los latinos y fustraciones sin neccesidad de llegar a golpes ni groserias. Muy bonita telenovela muy bonito como escriben y si Elias quedas con LAri, entonces sera la mejor historias que yo haya visto.
It's interesting to see how many viewers hope they won't reunite Lari & Elias or wish they'd speed up their reunion or are afraid Elias will get hurt. Now that Lari's paternity (probable but not certain without a DNA test) has been revealed to all, I think Elias' role as a sympathetic friend is perfect! There's no romantic interest between these two YET. We just have to give it time. First Lari has to get over Kalle, and for all we know, Elias has a budding romantic interest back in Brussels. Probably not, but the looks he gives Lari are about caring & compassion. They're very comfortable with each other--which is a perfect starting point.
+alwaysuseless I am almost completely agree. As for the glances of both, I would not be so sure, however. in italiano Sono quasi completamente d'accordo. Per quanto riguarda gli sguardi di entrambi, non sarei così sicuro, però.
isapostolos Glances are open to interpretation. Just consider that because you want Lari & Elias together, you might be inclined to over-interpret how they look at each other. I think it's sweeter and more exciting if neither is thinking of a romantic connection and, starting with friendship, fall in love all over again.
alwaysuseless I'm not completely agree. In any case, the problem is that the two of them have already been in love, very intensely and for a long period. They are not starting from zero. in italiano Non sono completamente d'accordo. In ogni caso il problema è che loro due sono già stati innamorati, molto intensamente e per un lungo periodo. Non stanno partendo da zero.
isapostolos Lol, they're certainly not starting from zero! But at the moment Lari is still thinking about how he can get Kalle back. Elias encouraged him to go talk to Kalle. That didn't work out, but it suggests that Elias isn't thinking about how he can get Lari back. Neither Lari nor Elias is devious. That's Kristina's department.
This baby is so cute I'm surprised the actors could get through this scene without laughing at him trying to escape. LOL. Clearly no one on soaps has ever hear of giving someone space. They all want everything solved immediately. I don't really care if Kalle and Lari get back together but I do know that they should stop trying to force Kalle to accept things and just leave him a lone and let him sort out his feelings. Kalle has to throw his toddler temper tantrum before he can actually have a reasonable discussion. They should all know that by now. I wish Lari would just keep a clear wide berth of Kalle and his parents for the time being. Lari should just concentrate on Sanni and Iija and finding a place to stay and getting his job back and let Kalle work things out with his family separately.
+alwaysuseless I was actually impressed with Sanni for coming to Kalle like that and being willing to face his wrath and try to work through things. It's a shame he couldn't even try to work through it with her.
***** Yeah, but I understand where Kalle is coming from too. Sometimes you need time, and if you don't get it, you're not going to handle it well. Hopefully Sanni and the others will let him process and try again.
+michirucarrera Definitely, I think they should give Kalle some time to work through all this mess in his head. But I really hope he and Sanni can work through it because with parents like Ismo and kristina, Sanni is doomed. She's still in school. She needs some support.
It's said that repeating behavior but expecting a different result is a definition of insanity. Here Kristina goes again, trying to chase Lari away to 'protect her family'. She has learned nothing. I loved it when Lari jerked his arm out of her grasp.
+DanKalsr Kalle rents it off Heidi and her brother, he talked about calling her in a previous part. Kalle did the right thing because he was not to know Lari would ever come back so he had to do something. He also put Lari's things in storage
+Elias' Story And to be honest I thought that was VERY shady. I get that Kalle was angry but he just up and took the apartment as if Lari never existed. I know he didn't know if or when Lari was coming back but that was just so cutthroat. He wasn't that anxious to grab an apartment when he was living with his parents, baby sister and nephew all in the same apartment. It felt rueful to me like if Lari came back Kalle was gonna make sure he had no where to live.
I was Lmfao as well I was like oh wow I think this was Lari apartment and Kalle got invited to now he kick him out knowing he got nowhere or Noone really to turn to .... now can't he see he is pushing him right into Elias arms and am loving it
Even in a soap, it takes some nerve for Sanni to say, "I know you probably don't want to see us right now. ...Can we stay over the night?". She slept with his boyfriend/fiancé and got pregnant by him, repeatedly lied about who was the father of her child, and helped ruin Kalle's planned marriage - and wants to stay over the night (and good luck getting her out after that!)?????? (It's odd that some who criticized Kalle as cold or remote are criticizing him for his emotions now that he has been lied to and manipulated.)
Elias is just making a fool of himself he is hoping by playing the supportive friend that Lari will leave Kalle. but Lari feelings for Kalle are very strong he still loves him.
+JordanjamesX Even if Elias now has a boyfriend back in Brussels, he would feel compassion for Lari. He's not romantically interested in Lari yet. Nor is Lari interested in Elias that way. Neither of them have ulterior motives.
i understand Lari is homeless right now, but apparently so is Sanni. shouldn't he at least offer to help Sanni out so his son would have a place to stay?
+G Cyloner she is staying at Ismo with Kristina, Lari's son is safe. She should have gone there first and swallowed her pride for her son instead of putting more pressure on Kalle.
+G Cyloner Give him a minute. Sanni isn't actually homeless. She could go home she is just angry with her mother. I'm sure Sanni will go home and just ignore her mother if that is what she needs to do. She is still a minor after all.
I would have more sympathy for Lari right now if he had told Kalle the truth before agreeing to marry him and letting everyone get involved in planning a wedding and then just abandoning Kalle at the alter with no explanation. Lari and Sanni both knew what they were doing was wrong and they know it would hurt Kalle and they had to know eventually the secret would get out. On top of that, Lari knows what Elias went through with all the secrets around who his parents were and how it hurt him to know folks lied to him.
+Platypus Rising Lari was a fool to cave to Kristina's pushing him to skip town. The show portrayed Lari as thinking he was making the nobler choice. What an idiot!
+alwaysuseless I understand why he did it. He couldn't face the truth so he left. I think some part of him also didn't want to admit he was a father so he just let the secret happen. But that is because he has no one in his life who has his best interests at heart whom he can trust to talk to. Even Kalle always has his own agenda.
+Platypus Rising Yes, Lari and Sanni royally f-ed-up. Things may get easier if Lari and Sanni tell everyone that this was a one-off and they honestly thought until weeks ago that Janne was the father of Ilja. I did not get the possible connection about Elias and the lies that were orchestrated about his mother. Heck, even Helena was in on the lie. Thanks for pointing it out. Elias should offer some guidance so there will be no more lies of omission, at least saving Ilja some of the grief he suffered. Of course, Lari and Sanni will "protect" Ilja, getting deep into the muck on the matter one more time.
***** Good point about everyone around Lari having their own agenda. Fortunately, now Lari can talk with Elias. For the moment, Elias can be Lari's friend with no agenda that conflicts with what's in Lari's best interests. I hope this lasts for a while. It's too soon for Lari to have a new romantic interest and perhaps too soon for Elias as well.
+alwaysuseless Lari doesn't like lying or secrets and that is why he was always so agitated once he found out that he was the dad. It wasn't easy for him. Truthfully I think now that everything is out in the open EVERYONE will be better off. Sanni and Lari can relax (they wouldn't be the first straight woman and gay man to co parent a child) and everyone can move forward with their life. If Tale really loves Sanni he will forgive her once he is over the shock. Kale can get some distance and deal with his life. LOL
+rocketpit101 He is not going to be a doormat. Look I am not fond of Elias but all I see is someone being a friend so I am going to have to give him props for that. I just remember he said something flippant to Ida when he first came back about dating in Brussels when he was there and he is always checking his phone now so I just have a funny feeling that he has got someone else for now.
alwaysuseless This time maybe it is bigger and has found a different way and less dangerous. in italiano Questa volta forse è più grande e ha trovato un modo diverso e meno pericoloso.
I didn't write any comment since Elias was with Miska I was really angry and upset and I stoped watching the videos when Lari and Kalle was together I can't even see them being together I was here for Elias and Lari and now I am here for them I am starting to hope since Elias came back and when he met with Lari it was WOW I hope to see them together soon or else I will never watch this story .............................
when Elias and Lari got together they were so young and going thru a lot of things. Lari finally except himself being gay. I think Kalle is a nice guy but what he wants in life is someone of his age . I don't think Lari was ready for all that. Lari got his own place to be independent but Kalle moved right in and now Lari is getting asked to leave. Lari goes to the one person he feels safest with ELIAS.
I feel bad for Kalle. But Lari wasn't the right person for him to begin with. There wasn't the passion that there was between Lari and Elias. Kalle needs to move out of that building away from his screwed up family -- especially his mother -- and move onr. Why he stayed so close to them for so long is strange. Also, time to get to the gym and lose some of that gut.
+rapulainen Lari is certainly not the first person of Kalle. Anyway you're right, he should get out of that apartment building, so he would be away from his parents who are one worse than the other. in italiano Lari non è certo la prima persona di Kalle. Comunque hai ragione, dovrebbe andar via da quel condominio, così sarebbe lontano dai suoi genitori che sono uno peggio dell'altro.
+isapostolos One hundred per cent true - BUT far too sensible for Soap World! Just think of all the extra sets and the plot devices the writers would have to come up with to attain the same level of conflict and drama!
I think I could get a better understanding if I knew Kalle's Story. We know his parents are just nut jobs without the ability to Love or think. But I feel we could all benefit in knowing his early years because we would know why he is where he is right now. The age difference is immaterial to the story or to life. We can never control who we love. Love happens and there we are. As long as both are over 18.Some areas use 16 - but I think that is too young. Where do I go to find that story posted. ?
wasn't Kalle in the army at 18 years where he meet his husband who was much older and his senior lieutenant and married at 19 years and then left Finland for 10 plus years to live in Brazil with his husband. 16 is not too young, you can get married, join the army, go into full time employment, pay taxes and be tried for murder at 16 years here in the UK, all adult stuff. This is Europe and not the States where it is different
hold on the last time I check Kalle was the chief of medical so I think he being really irresponsible with this over drinking himself to the heartbreak grave .... come on mate get it together I know your hurting but slow down on the alcohol. ... wow oh wow and it's proven to us all now Elias is really Lari safe heaven .... I could just put my hands around Sanni throat I swear she can't get anymore annoying than she is at this minute .... for the love of Kalle & Lari can you all go get a DNA test done .... big sigh am over this trust am out
+MrsBeautiful She's very young and she's making some bad choices but then again when Lari was her age he was bullying Elias and Tale on a daily basis so hopefully she will grow out of it and mature. She seems to be calming down. It's just a messy situation all around.
For the love of God! Can we please let Elias and Lari get back together? I know Kalle is hurt but come on. He needs to find someone closer to his own age with similar interests. Lari and Sanni can still be parents to their child and have relationships with other people.
+Only Me For the Catholic Church not. The godfather or godmother should be a person other than the parents. in italiano Per la Chiesa cattolica no. Il padrino o madrina devono essere una persona diversa dai genitori.
+Only Me but on the time both didn't thought Lari is the father..I still think Lari is not the father. Of all of them Kalle should ask for DNA test. I think we are on the beginning of pass which lead in long run to larias reunion for more mature relation
+Only Me Well, "I'm my own grandpa". That song has a series of marriages and I think somehow the guy the marries his real grandpa's widow from one of his marriages. I pointed out earlier that the only way this can get worse is for Kristiina to have been the surrogate mother of Lari, thus making Lari, Sanni, and Kalle half-siblings. It would be fun to see their explanation of that to Ilja when he may be old enough to understand the events. Maybe they will ask Janne to map it out like a hockey play.
Only Me Agreed. Helena, the resident jackal lohduttajaa (comforter), needs a professional on her speed dial for the tough cases (actually, all affecting the residents of Pihlajakatu). I do not understand how people would seek comfort from someone described with "ha" (a laugh) at the end of the word. I may doubt her guidance.
I like Elias. I am not warming up to Lari at all. We are just friends. And as usual he is slobbering all over Lari just by setting next to him on the couch. I wish my bf was like that.
I'm already seeing where the story will go...now Kalle will have a drinking problem that will cause some kind of issues and bring back together those around him to help him.
+Bryan Rosales Did we ever find out the name of the driver that ran over Marianna with a car that "closely matched" the one that the hungover Kalle had borrowed from Ismo? I thought at the time that the accident may end up costing Kalle dearly. Kalle lied to Lari about borrowing the car. I hardly think the one lie about the car (that could have killed Marianna) is bigger than the lie of omission about Ilja, but honesty may not even be a recessive gene for Kalle and his folks.
and it is 2021 and Kalle still has a drinking problem. Lari and Kalle meet up again in 2019 after Lari left and one of the first things Lari said was I thought you gave up drinking or was just pretend. His drinking has got worse over the years
I have stopped following this film since Miska acted as a Elias' boyfriend. I wanna Lari&Elias to reunite :((((((( Lari tried to please Elias by ignoring his father but Elias liked Miska by accident. What a sh*t!
I don't get why Kalle became so upset after knowing that Ilja is Lari's. He always thinks that it's all Kristina's fault. I think He isn't ready to forgive Lari yet , there must be someone whom you can blame on. That's why he blamed poor Kristina. Would he forgive Lari if he knew the truth regarding Ilja's father earlier? I bet he'd cancel his wedding back then and break up with Lari.
joseph fort I actually do understand Kalle. Maybe because of the profession I work in but I have seen people act out for less than what Kalle has gone through-getting dumped on your wedding day and then finding out your partner has fathered your sister's child...ouch. It is only been a day or two since he found out, Lari and Sanni need to back off. The Kristinna thing is a different issue IMO, their relationship is never going to be as strong as Kalle's and Ismo's relationship.
Out of curiosity, wasn't the apartment Lari's. Was Lari gone long enough for Kalle to take over the lease, or is he just defaulting to letting it belong to Kalle because he screwed up and feels guilty. I couldn't imagine someone I asked to move in with me kicking me out of my own place unless I really was holding onto straws in hopes of getting a second chance. If Lari left for such a reason, then maybe these two might have a hope still in the future. I have to admit, I liked Lari with Kalle more than with Elias. I would also like to see Elias with someone more suitable for him. perfect boyfriends don't work for him, but someone not sure of themselves doesn't either. he needs someone with flaws whose out and proud and ready to be in a relationship with him. It would be a good story watching someone truly meant for Elias blind side him by how good they could be together. Something to take him by surprise in a good way.
+Shenvalleyboi kalle called Heidi to get the apartment. Nothing else he could do as he never knew Lari was ever coming back and needed to sort it out- who here would blame him for that!
+Shenvalleyboi in part 344 Kalle tells us he is calling Heidi to transfer the lease. He had to as it was impossible for him to know Lari was ever coming back. He put Lari's things in storage. Ismo said he could stay with him but Kalle said there were just as many memories of Lari at Ismo's place
I love how people illogically think that if someone disappears on their own accord and there is no sign of them EVER coming back that a landlord should keep that property vacant until forever and forget about their own bills. That was never Lari's place, he rented it off Heidi. He left (thus breaking the tenancy agreement) and Heidi- who has bills to pay- now rents it to Kalle. This part of the soap (and life itself) is not rocket science.
kalle is so immature he suppose to be chief of a hosptil I wouldn't trust him he didn't rent the apartment just basically took over he kept bring the child in and aleast lari wants to be truthfully but truth be told kalle is a drunk and don't deserve to be in a relationship he only cares for himself
So Kalle should be homeless because Lari screwed up? That makes no sense. It is not Lari's or Kalle's apartment, it is Heidi's apartment and she can rent it to whoever she wants to. She is not going to let it sit idle with no income coming from it on a hope that maybe one day Lari will return. It was made pretty clear a few parts back that Heidi (now in London) had not heard from Lari and so she was happy that Kalle took on paying all the rent for the apartment and she had put the tenancy in Kalle's name
I feel so sorry for Kalle but the lines he was coming out with today were brilliant....only missing a labrador
the best line of the day goes to Kalle
Sanni "how could I tell my brother"
Kalle "well just by speaking clear Finnish Language."
+Only Me I didn't know they speak Finish in Tasmania???
+Only Me What about "all you need is a Labrador" ? That one made me laugh.
gritsnsand yeah, he really was on top form
Kristiina to Lari: "You don't even have anyone left here!"
And then who does Lari go straight to? That's right :)
Elias!!!!!
lmao when Lari said whooooo to Kristiina and turned around and walked away.Wrong Kristiina when you said Lari doesn't have anyone.Larias two days in a row,only the beginning from friends to lovers:)
Absolutely right. Elias!!!!!
Talk about Kalle not being given any room to breathe by Sanni and Lari. He has only known for a short time, gave a man some time to get his head around things.
+sabinasabina2010 It's incredible! Lari and Sanni have both betrayed him and then expect him to sit nicely and listen to their excuses when it's convenient for them? Give the poor guy a break!
poor kalle but larias is larias
Yessss !
Elias Face was like" My sweet hot Lari you gonna be all mine again " Uh, Maybe Elias had been planing that long ago.
In Brussels
lol
You could cut the tension in the sitting room with a knife before Kalle blew up- but what did Lari and Sanni expect? They given him no time at all to come to terms with anything.
just let be them be together already!! #larias
I don't like where this is going, I want Elias and Lari to get back with each other but not with the expense of another heart being broken, poor Kalle his really a nice guy. :(
+Ezzy Salvani happiness has not mud feets
+Ezzy Salvani We knew that Kalle was going to get his heart broken as soon as the show made Lari & Kalle a couple, because from the long view this particular story has always been about Elias & Lari.
+Elias' Story Kalle is the king of throwing his toys out of the pram. His sister is 16 and he has no compassion for her. He is not even willing to sit down and calmly talk to her about it. He is too old to act like an angst teen in my opinion. He was rushing everything with Lari to fill some kind of void and now he is acting like his life is over. He hardly knows Lari TBH. He seems to only be able to deal with people when they are doing exactly what he wants otherwise he just flails. Even if he did not want to see Lari or his father, he could have asked them to leave and just spent some time with his sister who needs him.
Sanni is no angel but she is a teen mom and she is his blood. Sisters are forever.
I can't stop crying :)
I love this part, finally. I love Elias and Lari staring at each other....
***** Kalle threw them out of his apartment. That doesn't necessarily mean that he's thrown them out of his life. He needs some time to adjust to Lari's & Sanni's betrayal and Kristina's worse than betrayal. He could use a friend the way Lari has Elias to turn to, but apparently he doesn't have one.
"How can you tell you brother you had a kid with his boyfriend?"
" By speaking clear finnish language"
that cracked me up, it's so true. If they had been honest from the beginning things would not have been half as bad and that goes for everyone.
Poor Elias, his feelings are coming back, I just hope Lari feels the same
+janitajasmin Elias cares about people. I don't think he has romantic feelings for Lari yet. Of course, he will eventually, but I hope they don't rush it.
+teve oh Was it "big-L" that has simmered to "little-L" love? Elias may want to take the pan off the burner for a while and focus on simply (if only it were simple) [strike:offer] [substitute: offering] his friendship and counsel.
***** Although I don't remember now Elias' saying that, it sounds in character. Taking things now, however, as they are, Elias doesn't seem romantically interested in Lari, nor Lari in him. That's why they're so comfortable with each other. This is (for me at least) a very enjoyable phase in their relationship.
Alvin Simon Well said.
+janitajasmin I also think elias had feelings for lari when he came back from brussels. He seemed so weird always when lari was brought up in conversations and all. I definitely think that lari still loves kalle. I have no idea how the writers will play out this situation but I hope elias and lari end up together!
and the door is opening ,well at least cracked!!!! Lots of time on my hands for you my baby LARI..happy weekend to everybody...
Me siento adicto a Elias y Lari. Me alegra cuando los escritores se vuelven como locos al escribir y me gusta ver como en Finlandia hay personas con sentimientos tan parecidos a los latinos y fustraciones sin neccesidad de llegar a golpes ni groserias. Muy bonita telenovela muy bonito como escriben y si Elias quedas con LAri, entonces sera la mejor historias que yo haya visto.
+Carl Grossman ALFIN UN COMENTARIO EN ESPAÑOL!!! :D hahaha y si TeamLarias!!!
Cuando veo un comentario en español ya no me siento solo.
Tambien se que missfinlandia88 el dueño de este canal habla y escribe un poco en español.
Cuando veo un comentario en español ya no me siento solo.
Tambien se que missfinlandia88 el dueño de este canal habla y escribe un poco en español.
+mibebeprecioso
muy gay ustedes
Pero me desespera que tardan aveces hasta semanas de pasar de un episodio a otro.
LOVING THE SHOW RIGHT NOW!!
It's interesting to see how many viewers hope they won't reunite Lari & Elias or wish they'd speed up their reunion or are afraid Elias will get hurt. Now that Lari's paternity (probable but not certain without a DNA test) has been revealed to all, I think Elias' role as a sympathetic friend is perfect! There's no romantic interest between these two YET. We just have to give it time. First Lari has to get over Kalle, and for all we know, Elias has a budding romantic interest back in Brussels. Probably not, but the looks he gives Lari are about caring & compassion. They're very comfortable with each other--which is a perfect starting point.
+alwaysuseless I am almost completely agree. As for the glances of both, I would not be so sure, however.
in italiano
Sono quasi completamente d'accordo. Per quanto riguarda gli sguardi di entrambi, non sarei così sicuro, però.
I couldn't agree anymore than that ....
isapostolos Glances are open to interpretation. Just consider that because you want Lari & Elias together, you might be inclined to over-interpret how they look at each other. I think it's sweeter and more exciting if neither is thinking of a romantic connection and, starting with friendship, fall in love all over again.
alwaysuseless I'm not completely agree. In any case, the problem is that the two of them have already been in love, very intensely and for a long period. They are not starting from zero.
in italiano
Non sono completamente d'accordo. In ogni caso il problema è che loro due sono già stati innamorati, molto intensamente e per un lungo periodo. Non stanno partendo da zero.
isapostolos Lol, they're certainly not starting from zero! But at the moment Lari is still thinking about how he can get Kalle back. Elias encouraged him to go talk to Kalle. That didn't work out, but it suggests that Elias isn't thinking about how he can get Lari back. Neither Lari nor Elias is devious. That's Kristina's department.
This baby is so cute I'm surprised the actors could get through this scene without laughing at him trying to escape. LOL.
Clearly no one on soaps has ever hear of giving someone space.
They all want everything solved immediately.
I don't really care if Kalle and Lari get back together but I do know that they should stop trying to force Kalle to accept things and just leave him a lone and let him sort out his feelings.
Kalle has to throw his toddler temper tantrum before he can actually have a reasonable discussion. They should all know that by now.
I wish Lari would just keep a clear wide berth of Kalle and his parents for the time being.
Lari should just concentrate on Sanni and Iija and finding a place to stay and getting his job back and let Kalle work things out with his family separately.
Feel sorry for Kalle, if I was in his shoes the last people I would want to see at my door right now would be Lari and Sanni.
+Never Again Kalle is a doormat on only a part-time basis. Understandably he's currently not in doormat mode, so he kicked them out.
I guess Kalle is overwhelmed.
You know you're in trouble when Ismo is the voice of reason. >_
+michirucarrera LOL! This is why I read the comments. They're certainly funnier than the show.
+alwaysuseless I was actually impressed with Sanni for coming to Kalle like that and being willing to face his wrath and try to work through things. It's a shame he couldn't even try to work through it with her.
***** Yeah, but I understand where Kalle is coming from too. Sometimes you need time, and if you don't get it, you're not going to handle it well. Hopefully Sanni and the others will let him process and try again.
+michirucarrera Definitely, I think they should give Kalle some time to work through all this mess in his head. But I really hope he and Sanni can work through it because with parents like Ismo and kristina, Sanni is doomed. She's still in school. She needs some support.
i love that the problem between Kalle and Lari is more interesting than Elias and Lari :D
It's said that repeating behavior but expecting a different result is a definition of insanity. Here Kristina goes again, trying to chase Lari away to 'protect her family'. She has learned nothing. I loved it when Lari jerked his arm out of her grasp.
thanks for the upload
Good episode. Complex.
How could Kalle throw Lari out of the apartment ? Wasn't Lari staying there first and asked Kalle to move in?
+DanKalsr Kalle rents it off Heidi and her brother, he talked about calling her in a previous part. Kalle did the right thing because he was not to know Lari would ever come back so he had to do something. He also put Lari's things in storage
+Elias' Story And to be honest I thought that was VERY shady. I get that Kalle was angry but he just up and took the apartment as if Lari never existed. I know he didn't know if or when Lari was coming back but that was just so cutthroat. He wasn't that anxious to grab an apartment when he was living with his parents, baby sister and nephew all in the same apartment. It felt rueful to me like if Lari came back Kalle was gonna make sure he had no where to live.
+DanKalsr All little tricks of the trade to capture our attention and mind-boggle us ;)
I was Lmfao as well I was like oh wow I think this was Lari apartment and Kalle got invited to now he kick him out knowing he got nowhere or Noone really to turn to .... now can't he see he is pushing him right into Elias arms and am loving it
Haha I love the response of Lari at 4:54
And I thought my family was fucked up...
my heart beats so fast when elias opened the door
"My dear brother can't get his head of his ass" go Sanni😂😂😂🍑💞
Even in a soap, it takes some nerve for Sanni to say, "I know you probably don't want to see us right now. ...Can we stay over the night?". She slept with his boyfriend/fiancé and got pregnant by him, repeatedly lied about who was the father of her child, and helped ruin Kalle's planned marriage - and wants to stay over the night (and good luck getting her out after that!)?????? (It's odd that some who criticized Kalle as cold or remote are criticizing him for his emotions now that he has been lied to and manipulated.)
Is the next episode going to be posted today?
Elias is just making a fool of himself he is hoping by playing the supportive friend that Lari will leave Kalle. but Lari feelings for Kalle are very strong he still loves him.
+JordanjamesX And how long do you think it will last?
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E quanto tempo pensi che dureranno?
+JordanjamesX Even if Elias now has a boyfriend back in Brussels, he would feel compassion for Lari. He's not romantically interested in Lari yet. Nor is Lari interested in Elias that way. Neither of them have ulterior motives.
i understand Lari is homeless right now, but apparently so is Sanni. shouldn't he at least offer to help Sanni out so his son would have a place to stay?
+G Cyloner she is staying at Ismo with Kristina, Lari's son is safe. She should have gone there first and swallowed her pride for her son instead of putting more pressure on Kalle.
+G Cyloner Give him a minute. Sanni isn't actually homeless. She could go home she is just angry with her mother. I'm sure Sanni will go home and just ignore her mother if that is what she needs to do. She is still a minor after all.
I would have more sympathy for Lari right now if he had told Kalle the truth before agreeing to marry him and letting everyone get involved in planning a wedding and then just abandoning Kalle at the alter with no explanation. Lari and Sanni both knew what they were doing was wrong and they know it would hurt Kalle and they had to know eventually the secret would get out.
On top of that, Lari knows what Elias went through with all the secrets around who his parents were and how it hurt him to know folks lied to him.
+Platypus Rising Lari was a fool to cave to Kristina's pushing him to skip town. The show portrayed Lari as thinking he was making the nobler choice. What an idiot!
+alwaysuseless I understand why he did it. He couldn't face the truth so he left. I think some part of him also didn't want to admit he was a father so he just let the secret happen. But that is because he has no one in his life who has his best interests at heart whom he can trust to talk to. Even Kalle always has his own agenda.
+Platypus Rising Yes, Lari and Sanni royally f-ed-up. Things may get easier if Lari and Sanni tell everyone that this was a one-off and they honestly thought until weeks ago that Janne was the father of Ilja.
I did not get the possible connection about Elias and the lies that were orchestrated about his mother. Heck, even Helena was in on the lie. Thanks for pointing it out. Elias should offer some guidance so there will be no more lies of omission, at least saving Ilja some of the grief he suffered. Of course, Lari and Sanni will "protect" Ilja, getting deep into the muck on the matter one more time.
***** Good point about everyone around Lari having their own agenda. Fortunately, now Lari can talk with Elias. For the moment, Elias can be Lari's friend with no agenda that conflicts with what's in Lari's best interests. I hope this lasts for a while. It's too soon for Lari to have a new romantic interest and perhaps too soon for Elias as well.
+alwaysuseless Lari doesn't like lying or secrets and that is why he was always so agitated once he found out that he was the dad. It wasn't easy for him. Truthfully I think now that everything is out in the open EVERYONE will be better off. Sanni and Lari can relax (they wouldn't be the first straight woman and gay man to co parent a child) and everyone can move forward with their life. If Tale really loves Sanni he will forgive her once he is over the shock. Kale can get some distance and deal with his life. LOL
Here Elias goes being a doormat again, just when Kalle seems to have found his back bone too.
+rocketpit101 He is not going to be a doormat. Look I am not fond of Elias but all I see is someone being a friend so I am going to have to give him props for that. I just remember he said something flippant to Ida when he first came back about dating in Brussels when he was there and he is always checking his phone now so I just have a funny feeling that he has got someone else for now.
Never Again I would like to hope so but the show has done that in the past
+rocketpit101 Let's wait and see if Elias becomes a doormat before we call him one. I think he's learned a few things.
+rocketpit101 All he did was be kind to Lari. I wouldn't call that being a doormat, I'd call that being a person with compassion.
Elias' Story is there in future dna test from what uu from what they give?
Ohhh ai love it when they can hear the fighting from every corner of the place omggggg hahaha imagine those who don’t know what’s it about loll
Wow, Kalle's mum is scary, and I Kalle know is hurt, but a a little bit jealous too,
Peterri the best *-* I love Larias ♡
Where is Lari staying or is he going to be the new Janne. We know he stays somewhere but we just never see it!
+sabinasabina2010 This is the mystery!
+isapostolos Well, Lari has already mastered the art of being homeless.
alwaysuseless This time maybe it is bigger and has found a different way and less dangerous.
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Questa volta forse è più grande e ha trovato un modo diverso e meno pericoloso.
poor Larias - he has no relative or family he can run to during difficult times like this.
I mean Lari lol
I didn't write any comment since Elias was with Miska I was really angry and upset and I stoped watching the videos when Lari and Kalle was together I can't even see them being together I was here for Elias and Lari and now I am here for them I am starting to hope since Elias came back and when he met with Lari it was WOW I hope to see them together soon or else I will never watch this story .............................
when Elias and Lari got together they were so young and going thru a lot of things. Lari finally except himself being gay. I think Kalle is a nice guy but what he wants in life is someone of his age . I don't think Lari was ready for all that. Lari got his own place to be independent but Kalle moved right in and now Lari is getting asked to leave. Lari goes to the one person he feels safest with ELIAS.
Ninja moves for Elias... hahahahha that's how you get someone... get him/her at her/his weakest point... hahahhaha nice nice nice..
Kalle needs space- how insensitive of Lari and Sanni to show up so soon and give their excuses. Let the man breathe
I feel bad for Kalle. But Lari wasn't the right person for him to begin with. There wasn't the passion that there was between Lari and Elias. Kalle needs to move out of that building away from his screwed up family -- especially his mother -- and move onr. Why he stayed so close to them for so long is strange. Also, time to get to the gym and lose some of that gut.
+rapulainen Lari is certainly not the first person of Kalle. Anyway you're right, he should get out of that apartment building, so he would be away from his parents who are one worse than the other.
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Lari non è certo la prima persona di Kalle. Comunque hai ragione, dovrebbe andar via da quel condominio, così
sarebbe lontano dai suoi genitori che sono uno peggio dell'altro.
+isapostolos One hundred per cent true - BUT far too sensible for Soap World! Just think of all the extra sets and the plot devices the writers would have to come up with to attain the same level of conflict and drama!
I think I could get a better understanding if I knew Kalle's Story. We know his parents are just nut jobs without the ability to Love or think. But I feel we could all benefit in knowing his early years because we would know why he is where he is right now. The age difference is immaterial to the story or to life. We can never control who we love. Love happens and there we are. As long as both are over 18.Some areas use 16 - but I think that is too young. Where do I go to find that story posted. ?
+Tracer Loenan His entire storyline as a teenager is on TH-cam with the same actors.
+Tracer Loenan sininentomaatti channel on youtube
wasn't Kalle in the army at 18 years where he meet his husband who was much older and his senior lieutenant and married at 19 years and then left Finland for 10 plus years to live in Brazil with his husband. 16 is not too young, you can get married, join the army, go into full time employment, pay taxes and be tried for murder at 16 years here in the UK, all adult stuff. This is Europe and not the States where it is different
hold on the last time I check Kalle was the chief of medical so I think he being really irresponsible with this over drinking himself to the heartbreak grave .... come on mate get it together I know your hurting but slow down on the alcohol. ... wow oh wow and it's proven to us all now Elias is really Lari safe heaven .... I could just put my hands around Sanni throat I swear she can't get anymore annoying than she is at this minute .... for the love of Kalle & Lari can you all go get a DNA test done .... big sigh am over this trust am out
+MrsBeautiful She's very young and she's making some bad choices but then again when Lari was her age he was bullying Elias and Tale on a daily basis so hopefully she will grow out of it and mature. She seems to be calming down. It's just a messy situation all around.
+Platypus Rising yep it sure is ... but what would #Soap be without them hey ...lol
COOL
For the love of God! Can we please let Elias and Lari get back together? I know Kalle is hurt but come on. He needs to find someone closer to his own age with similar interests. Lari and Sanni can still be parents to their child and have relationships with other people.
Kalle needs a older hunk who will take good care of him :)
Lol only missing a Labrador xD
"Eihän sulla oo edes täällä ketää" 👍
I know there is no legal law on this but can a father also be a godfather? I googled it and the answers were very mixed
+Only Me For the Catholic Church not. The godfather or godmother should be a person other than the parents.
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Per la Chiesa cattolica no. Il padrino o madrina devono essere una persona diversa dai genitori.
+Only Me but on the time both didn't thought Lari is the father..I still think Lari is not the father. Of all of them Kalle should ask for DNA test. I think we are on the beginning of pass which lead in long run to larias reunion for more mature relation
+Only Me Well, "I'm my own grandpa". That song has a series of marriages and I think somehow the guy the marries his real grandpa's widow from one of his marriages.
I pointed out earlier that the only way this can get worse is for Kristiina to have been the surrogate mother of Lari, thus making Lari, Sanni, and Kalle half-siblings. It would be fun to see their explanation of that to Ilja when he may be old enough to understand the events. Maybe they will ask Janne to map it out like a hockey play.
Alvin Simon well I'm booking a child psychiatrist for Ilja by the time he is 5 years, the kid is going to need one.
Only Me Agreed. Helena, the resident jackal lohduttajaa (comforter), needs a professional on her speed dial for the tough cases (actually, all affecting the residents of Pihlajakatu). I do not understand how people would seek comfort from someone described with "ha" (a laugh) at the end of the word. I may doubt her guidance.
But... It’s Lari’s house, he’s paying for it lol
it is Heidi's apartment and she rents it to Kalle now
people are more upset that lari is the baby daddy then sanni sleeping with 3 blokes.
I know Sanni is a slapper!
I know Sanni is a slapper!
+jwsm2 why should anyone be upset about that?
+rocketpit101 Thank you for making the first sensible comment about that
+jwsm2 3 or more. At least she's now trying to take care of Ilja.
I like Elias. I am not warming up to Lari at all. We are just friends. And as usual he is slobbering all over Lari just by setting next to him on the couch. I wish my bf was like that.
Onko sulla klippejä siitä kun Elias tulee helsinkiin ja se käy Sebastianin kanssa homouttaan läpi? Ois kiva nähä niitä kun missään ei oo :)
I'm already seeing where the story will go...now Kalle will have a drinking problem that will cause some kind of issues and bring back together those around him to help him.
+Bryan Rosales You could be right. Or he could just gain 20 pounds from beer & pizza and lying about.
+Bryan Rosales Did we ever find out the name of the driver that ran over Marianna with a car that "closely matched" the one that the hungover Kalle had borrowed from Ismo? I thought at the time that the accident may end up costing Kalle dearly.
Kalle lied to Lari about borrowing the car. I hardly think the one lie about the car (that could have killed Marianna) is bigger than the lie of omission about Ilja, but honesty may not even be a recessive gene for Kalle and his folks.
and it is 2021 and Kalle still has a drinking problem. Lari and Kalle meet up again in 2019 after Lari left and one of the first things Lari said was I thought you gave up drinking or was just pretend. His drinking has got worse over the years
I have stopped following this film since Miska acted as a Elias' boyfriend. I wanna Lari&Elias to reunite :((((((( Lari tried to please Elias by ignoring his father but Elias liked Miska by accident. What a sh*t!
I just saw Sanni's actor at a bar lol 😂
I don't get why Kalle became so upset after knowing that Ilja is Lari's. He always thinks that it's all Kristina's fault. I think He isn't ready to forgive Lari yet , there must be someone whom you can blame on. That's why he blamed poor Kristina. Would he forgive Lari if he knew the truth regarding Ilja's father earlier? I bet he'd cancel his wedding back then and break up with Lari.
+joseph fort Kalle always blames his parents for everything. Granted both his parents have a lot to account for, but this mess is not of their making.
+Platypus Rising Yeah, I think so, he cannot accept bad things happen in his life. hope he'd get over it and stand still
+joseph fort he does not just blame his parents, Ismo he still talks to, none of this is Kalles fault. He just needs time to breathe
Only Me Yeah, he need some time and space, I just don't get the way he reacted to anyone.
joseph fort I actually do understand Kalle. Maybe because of the profession I work in but I have seen people act out for less than what Kalle has gone through-getting dumped on your wedding day and then finding out your partner has fathered your sister's child...ouch. It is only been a day or two since he found out, Lari and Sanni need to back off. The Kristinna thing is a different issue IMO, their relationship is never going to be as strong as Kalle's and Ismo's relationship.
reading some of the comments 5 years after they were made is hilarious
Out of curiosity, wasn't the apartment Lari's. Was Lari gone long enough for Kalle to take over the lease, or is he just defaulting to letting it belong to Kalle because he screwed up and feels guilty. I couldn't imagine someone I asked to move in with me kicking me out of my own place unless I really was holding onto straws in hopes of getting a second chance. If Lari left for such a reason, then maybe these two might have a hope still in the future. I have to admit, I liked Lari with Kalle more than with Elias. I would also like to see Elias with someone more suitable for him. perfect boyfriends don't work for him, but someone not sure of themselves doesn't either. he needs someone with flaws whose out and proud and ready to be in a relationship with him. It would be a good story watching someone truly meant for Elias blind side him by how good they could be together. Something to take him by surprise in a good way.
+Shenvalleyboi Kalle just decided to take it. Shady AF.
+Shenvalleyboi kalle called Heidi to get the apartment. Nothing else he could do as he never knew Lari was ever coming back and needed to sort it out- who here would blame him for that!
+Shenvalleyboi in part 344 Kalle tells us he is calling Heidi to transfer the lease. He had to as it was impossible for him to know Lari was ever coming back. He put Lari's things in storage. Ismo said he could stay with him but Kalle said there were just as many memories of Lari at Ismo's place
I love how people illogically think that if someone disappears on their own accord and there is no sign of them EVER coming back that a landlord should keep that property vacant until forever and forget about their own bills. That was never Lari's place, he rented it off Heidi. He left (thus breaking the tenancy agreement) and Heidi- who has bills to pay- now rents it to Kalle. This part of the soap (and life itself) is not rocket science.
5 years too late for this kind of snarky replyI I don't even remember what happened.
kivaa kun elias tuli takas kun tää on ollu vähän niinkun Lari story
What happened can someone plz tell me
Kalle häätää larin ulos omasta kämpästää LOL
mite larin kämpäst tuli kallen?
Petteri Viljami Kun Lari lähti, Kalle vuokras sen Heidiltä ja sen takii se asuu siel nyt.
I sm Happy again
tää on vanha jakso.. mut mun mielestä Kalle vittuun Larin asunnosta ja Lari sinne..😟
ei juma sanni XD 2:51
2:51 Paras xD
2:12 They will calm down..
Really?
I have plenty of time ❤❤❤❤❤
i know he's not supposed to be so, but Kalle is so not attractive in those scenes! Producers are doing everything to make Elias and Lari sexy as hell!
+L Lily I don't think anyone needs to look attractive when they are miserable.
+L Lily each to their own, I find Kalle sexy as hell
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Kalle is the most pitiful character here, grow up
4:53
4:53 :]]]
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kalle is so immature he suppose to be chief of a hosptil I wouldn't trust him he didn't rent the apartment just basically took over he kept bring the child in and aleast lari wants to be truthfully but truth be told kalle is a drunk and don't deserve to be in a relationship he only cares for himself
So Kalle should be homeless because Lari screwed up? That makes no sense. It is not Lari's or Kalle's apartment, it is Heidi's apartment and she can rent it to whoever she wants to. She is not going to let it sit idle with no income coming from it on a hope that maybe one day Lari will return. It was made pretty clear a few parts back that Heidi (now in London) had not heard from Lari and so she was happy that Kalle took on paying all the rent for the apartment and she had put the tenancy in Kalle's name
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thanks for the upload