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  • I got to hang out in LA with a few engineers who've make some incredible best, selling metal records. Here's what I've learned from that experience!
    The Greatest METAL GUITAR recording trick I ever learned
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  • @solarreturn7673
    @solarreturn7673 6 ปีที่แล้ว +559

    watch the prices of crappy old behringer mixers rise after this lol

    • @nicosanchez1980
      @nicosanchez1980 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I have one of those listed, I won't sell it now, I'm going to try this xD

    • @TheRealSlickRick63
      @TheRealSlickRick63 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Solar Return.. That could happen, except
      nobody knows who this big old hippy woman is. She's huge and talks like a dude, but she loves metal. So, it's all good.

    • @philzeo
      @philzeo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Forgot I had one of these.
      Cool.

    • @sywartbrunsma343
      @sywartbrunsma343 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank god my friend bought me one thinking it was a usb mixer a few months ago

    • @resistorstudios
      @resistorstudios 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have one a SL3242FX PRO . Everything works and we use it heavily for live and recording! It has a great sound. Even for country vocals. Lol

  • @robbiedozier2840
    @robbiedozier2840 6 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    It’s really inspiring that you’ve been doing this for 20 years and you still aren’t above taking advice from other people in your industry. Keep on rocking Glenn!

    • @falconpowerful2362
      @falconpowerful2362 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Robbie Dozier, I totally agree. My motto is the day you stop trying to learn is the day you should give it up.

    • @felipousismix
      @felipousismix 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You will never stop learning if you are willing to ;-)
      Cheers!

    • @oiart
      @oiart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thats the key to this industry, you can always learn a few tricks from other people.

    • @benjaminaustnesnarum3900
      @benjaminaustnesnarum3900 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The dangers of getting stuck in your own way are many. Just because something has worked for someone over 10, 20, 30, or 40 years, does not mean things can't be improved or simplified. Also, it's fun to learn new things! Those "Aah! I hadn't thought of that" or "I didn't know that!" moments are great.

    • @MICKEYISLOWD
      @MICKEYISLOWD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nobody knows it all. This applies to every industry. I worked in Plastic extrusions for 12 yrs and knew less than 5% of what is out there. We made custom profiles which requires yrs of experience to do my job however every yr things change with different technology coming and going so you never actually learn more and more. Now I own 2 window cleaning businesses but this is much simpler and I get 5 times the money I got before so I can hopefully retire before I am nearly 70 yrs old...lol which is going to be the retirement age in the UK most likely in the future. Either that or I can pay you to work for me so I can stay home playing my guitar and reading science literature on Climate Change..lol.

  • @HowardTheDork
    @HowardTheDork 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Glen: "Warren, I'm in your debt".
    Warren: "Ok, then stop making fun of bass players"
    Glen: "no".

  • @user-ux5ym6ck3c
    @user-ux5ym6ck3c 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    To anyone who is unaware, this information is VERY valuable, and it's very nice of this dude to share it, because possessing this knowledge is key to how they make their living.

  • @victoreijkhout8092
    @victoreijkhout8092 6 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    "It forces you to make a decision right at the source, and not be left constantly tweaking after the fact". Amen. That's a great lesson.

  • @emirhanaykut128
    @emirhanaykut128 6 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Best opening ever!

    • @Psyfonify
      @Psyfonify 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      NOOOOO UUGHHHHHH

    • @Psyfonify
      @Psyfonify 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SteelShart and all other hair metal sucks ASS

    • @emirhanaykut128
      @emirhanaykut128 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deathrape2001 And you are? 16 year old metal saviour. Grow up kid

    • @emirhanaykut128
      @emirhanaykut128 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deathrape2001 kid you know shit get out of your diapers and grow up

  • @alvaroruizruiz7538
    @alvaroruizruiz7538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Another good technique is, having the mics in phase, taking one as the principal, flip the polarity on the second or other mics and just bring it up until you get the most cancellation and then flip polarity again. That way you get everything at its fullest if that's what you want, instead of choosing darker or brighter (which you really do when choosing the principal mic), you just get full power. Hope it helps to someone, cheers.

  • @BaenaCarcosa
    @BaenaCarcosa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    M A J E S T I C INTRO

  • @FoxWood
    @FoxWood 6 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    Love the new intro!!!

    • @VOYAGEUR-YT
      @VOYAGEUR-YT 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very majestic

    • @tennies
      @tennies 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Reminded me of a Pantene commercial

    • @heavymetalmixer91
      @heavymetalmixer91 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So FASHION!

    • @powdermnky007
      @powdermnky007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      maybe its metal? maybe its maybelline?

    • @timothymckane6362
      @timothymckane6362 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Much manly hair.

  • @Donmegamuffin
    @Donmegamuffin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +267

    Glen, your hair headbanging intro can only be described as "fabulous".
    Loriel, because you're worth it… amarite?

    • @Stefan-
      @Stefan- 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its L'Oréal otherwise correct ;-) Its a funny intro !

    • @VintageSG
      @VintageSG 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imagine him breaking the surface of a limpid pool from underneath, in slo-mo, with golden-yellow PARs adding highlights to the ripples.
      Mind bleach not supplied.

    • @PedalingPrince
      @PedalingPrince 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I love that new opening! Pretty epic! 👍

    • @Stefan-
      @Stefan- 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      VintageSG HA ha, i read Nipples instead och Ripples the first time i read your post... wouldnt mind some of that mind bleach you were talking about now ...

    • @lauscho
      @lauscho 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey Glenn, best of luck on the shampoo sponsorship! :)
      imgur.com/a/TdJEB

  • @monsterk7603
    @monsterk7603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Finally got everything to try this and BOOM! Amazing heavy bad assness on the first try. Thank you Glenn for sharing this awesome technique!

  • @scott.hanson
    @scott.hanson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Used Behringer mixers just went up in price 100%...

    • @brianmcalpine3948
      @brianmcalpine3948 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bought one today for 60$ so I guess they went up 33% lol

    • @thomaskelly2040
      @thomaskelly2040 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had one of those...it was well made. Most Behringer stuff i have owned was sub par...not the mixer.

    • @jackfisher9833
      @jackfisher9833 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No they did not. Behringer cant get up in price. PERIOD!

    • @low_e_music
      @low_e_music 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They still come up pretty cheap. I got a Eurorack MX602a for $20 shipped on ebay. Works great.

    • @johannsoncrusoe5589
      @johannsoncrusoe5589 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ... or get any other cheap mixer affordable... it is not about behringer per se, but inexpensive preamps.

  • @RealHomeRecording
    @RealHomeRecording 6 ปีที่แล้ว +556

    How come my Line 6 Spider didn't sound good with this technique?

    • @dreadednaught7641
      @dreadednaught7641 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      RealHomeRecording.com cause it's a Line 6

    • @Americantrecords
      @Americantrecords 6 ปีที่แล้ว +135

      Lol he doesn’t get the joke

    • @Smung
      @Smung 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Woooosh

    • @robconstant797
      @robconstant797 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      RealHomeRecording.com well they don't have 2 speaker do they

    • @BhargavaMan
      @BhargavaMan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Because it doesn't have 2 speakers, dummy! Get another spider and mic it up!

  • @Clean97gti
    @Clean97gti 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Old trick my dad taught me, I used for recording animal sounds back in a high school biology class when I didn't want ambient room noise, was to stick the SM58 on a stand and put it in a carboard box that something shipped in. Arrange the soft celled foam to remove any odd peaks or corners, and cover any cardboard and slide it right up to the cage. You can punch a hole in the cardboard to get your cable through, and shove it through the foam. Also works great for speaking parts. Mic in box on a table, and the speaker talks into it = no ambient room noise.
    Nice to have a parent who was a stagehand and could get gear to play with.

    • @5urg3x
      @5urg3x 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For speaking the trick I've always done is put a blanket over your head and put the mic inside the blanket.

    • @5urg3x
      @5urg3x 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Laugh all you want but it works very well, you can record voice tracks in your bedroom or living room and have them sound just as good as if they were recorded in a pro studio / vocal booth.

  • @therevolution91
    @therevolution91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You asked him straight out: “Tha fuuuck!?“ And he immediately understood.... 😂

  • @mutatedart
    @mutatedart 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos because I've been trying to do everything cheap since I was in high school. For 20 years it has been a learning experience with new filters, plugins, mics, amps, preamps, etc. Your videos remind me that simplicity is best remembered, and a good ear is 'bestest.' Thanks for all you do! Love these videos!

  • @tombarnaby4842
    @tombarnaby4842 6 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    Question: Once you create the "tent" around the cab, how do you keep the bass player from camping out in it?
    Seriously - fantastic video! Other than avoiding analysis paralysis, what is the reason for mixing the two mic signals together at the behringer mixer? I'm surprised you wouldn't want to record both signals then mix them together with the rest of the instruments so you know how the tone would sit in the mix.

    • @SpectreSoundStudios
      @SpectreSoundStudios  6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      +Tom Barnaby the mixer adds a productive coloration to the guitar tone that a daw won't

    • @terrydoylemusic
      @terrydoylemusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tom, the idea is to commit to the sound and as the other parts are put down, the musicians have an idea of what to play against. If you record everything generic, people won't be able to "vibe" to it and you leave all the work for the mixer, who probably wasn't even in the room.

    • @nerdhound5891
      @nerdhound5891 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you brought both signals into the Daw you could use Two AUX tracks and then set the output of those to an Audio track.

    • @scoreofallthings4896
      @scoreofallthings4896 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would imagine bass goes right through it. bass is pretty hard to stop. Only 4 inch thick fiberglass insulation can affect bass frequencies down to 60hz. anything lower would require a brick wall.

    • @tombarnaby4842
      @tombarnaby4842 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Glenn. Makes sense. Maybe someone will make a "Cheap Behringer Mixer" plugin to capture that coloration.

  • @mranton5026
    @mranton5026 6 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    Bassist here, can you tell me if I tied my shoes correctly?

    • @JohnGauntSega32
      @JohnGauntSega32 6 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      What gauge of shoestrings are you using? Are they flat or round?

    • @dntinker
      @dntinker 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Probably not, but that’s ok, let’s keep with the loop de loop method.

    • @guitardudeguy3139
      @guitardudeguy3139 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Did you send the bunny through the Rabbit hole? Wait a minute!... You're wearing Velcro shoes...

    • @NSG-Productions
      @NSG-Productions 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't have to look to tell you no. You are wearing slippers, Dumbass.

    • @powdermnky007
      @powdermnky007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      try boiling your shoestrings

  • @californiadaze
    @californiadaze 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for being so transparent with your recording techniques! This is insanely helpful for amateurs. Cheers!

  • @MNmetalhead
    @MNmetalhead 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is possibly the best simple metal guitar recording video on the net. Great stuff, man!

  • @wetalkinm4th-triphoplofida298
    @wetalkinm4th-triphoplofida298 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That guitar tone was flawless! amazing! but damn your drums always "standout" in the mix ( in a good way)! keep the amazing work!

  • @TheCIScommander
    @TheCIScommander 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man, this is the best your mixes have ever sounded. With this guitar recording technique, the amazing new darkglass microtubes bass amp, and your already amazing sounding drums, everything has so much definition and girth to it. It's pretty awesome.

    • @SpectreSoundStudios
      @SpectreSoundStudios  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Malcolm Bates Music thank you so much! It's all refinement & trying new things

  • @QuasarEffect
    @QuasarEffect 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for taking your time to do these videos. You have saved me untold hours of frustration these past months and I have learned a great deal from your experience. Just wanted to let you know.

  • @aSinisterKiid
    @aSinisterKiid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    never had any idea there was this much science involved in trying to record guitars. Well done.

  • @C0nnie
    @C0nnie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    would love to see you try and record some heavy, fuzzed out stoner/doom

    • @thehandlesticks66
      @thehandlesticks66 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wanna see him mix a Model T

    • @C0nnie
      @C0nnie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ThomasRocksU id kill to own a beta lead or model t

    • @freq9939
      @freq9939 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would love that too

    • @C0nnie
      @C0nnie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      enle7es ever since he mentioned he owns a beta lead, I comment something like that every video

    • @burntheeinsects6312
      @burntheeinsects6312 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      C0nnie hey man I have a T and a beta lead, beta is for sale if you want to shoot me an offer. Send a pm

  • @ericellis2729
    @ericellis2729 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    On a serious note, I did something similar back in 2004. Two SM57s in varied positions on a 4x12 with Uhaul blankets slung over the cabinet and mics. Didn't mix before the software though. However, it produced a meatier tone than using one SM57. Just kinda stumbled upon the method trying to find a better tone. Cool video and as always, fuck off!

  • @funnyshaunno
    @funnyshaunno 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s so crazy to watch your old videos. You’re looking great these days Glenn! Inspirational!
    Also, thanks for the killer video!

  • @benjaminaustnesnarum3900
    @benjaminaustnesnarum3900 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the shoutout to Warren. He's such a wonderful tutor! Loving your channel, man!
    And, the little tip on gain-staging/getting it right from the get-go is so important. Shit in, means shit out; no matter what you do to polish it.

  • @cdcb5918
    @cdcb5918 6 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I like the new intro a lot

  • @CaseyCangelosi
    @CaseyCangelosi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Glen, thanks so much -your videos are a total joy. I'm a classical percussionist teaching in higher-ed in Virginia, and I love everything you share. \m/ \m/

  •  6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this info with us , Glen.
    Sounds awesome.

  • @eefmydee1slideways
    @eefmydee1slideways 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not going to lie, I have seen all of your "how to record metal guitar" videos and you definitely had pretty good ideas in your in your previous videos that I have tried and they worked great for me everytime. But this method that you have done here is one of the best metal guitar tones you have ever made with your channel. I will be looking into this mixers as well and rocking a dual mic setup.

  • @fleshtonegolem
    @fleshtonegolem 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Glad you are getting mileage out of that "hair flip" comment! LMAO everytime

  • @joeambly6807
    @joeambly6807 6 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    "It doesnt matter what gear you have"
    Plays through 4k guitar amp/cab....lol

    • @allyhellkiller5535
      @allyhellkiller5535 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      If you got V30's they will work in a milk crate.

    • @Qevox
      @Qevox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's true, check out my latest covers, I did them on 250$ guitar with this metod ;) It sounds incredible for me \m/.

    • @chrisw5742
      @chrisw5742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Qevox Duuuude SIIICK guitar tone bro. SUBBED :-)

  • @deggar25
    @deggar25 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your channel because I LOVE all things audio tech and engineering techniques and you keep it entertaining and informative. Keep it up please! You're helping out upcoming artists and engineers to be secure in this industry!

  • @scottlinegar5474
    @scottlinegar5474 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I really appreciate this video. It's like finding the missing puzzle piece I've been looking for when recording.
    Also the V30 + K85/K100 speaker combination is by far my favorite and have all my 4x12's set up with them.

  • @CIRCLEOFTONE
    @CIRCLEOFTONE 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hell yeah! Making a tight booth for my cabs is the best thing I ever did. I’ve been preaching the audix bass mic coupled with a dynamic mic for tight metal for ages. But I put the bass mic under the cab (it’s on casters) to get a room like sub and blend it in low vs the SM57. Obviously my sm57 is way closer to center to compensate/catch the mids/clarity.
    For modern metal put it closer obviously (to the grill), but IMO Guitars are getting TOO tight/prominent in metal and I treat the audix mic’s room reflection/sub woofyness like a REVERB track. It gives the vibe of a live recording because the bass mic picks up so much crazyness it keeps it interesting. IMO people are getting jaded with tight in your face eq curve of a Vintage 30/SM57 adnauseum, so the under the cab trick is working great for me. It’s similar to the effect of micing the back of an open back cab. OOMF!
    Berhinger raise their heads again? Sneap used to use those pres on old Testament.

  • @ThunderBassistJay
    @ThunderBassistJay 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I've been using the exact same Behringer mixer for seven years already.

  • @JohnNugent92
    @JohnNugent92 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You've gotten so much better at playing guitar and your tone is immaculate. It's pretty inspiring!

  • @plexidust5101
    @plexidust5101 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Glen! love that you care and share. That cab you have is sweet. I think one thing that slips by is you said make sure the cab you use is TIGHT. That means opening it up and making sure the soundboard and speakers are tight, even the post. I did this like you pointed out and BOOM, a major improvement. My cab was loose as hell. So you Marshall guys, take it to heart. Glen knows, don't fuck around.

  • @drzontar
    @drzontar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I like the dark mic on it's own. But then, I'm a doom guitarist.

  • @JHamzig
    @JHamzig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glenn,
    I applied this technique to my recordings, and my guitar sound improved significantly! It’s not the best guitar sound by any means. However, at least, it’s tolerable.
    In addition, I replaced my Peavey 5150 cab speakers with the current EVH speakers. This also improved the sound! Overall, it was expensive to modify and acquire equipment, but it paid dividends. I’m satisfied! Thank you! Much appreciated!
    PS-I love “Why Can’t This Be Love?” (The song, not the ‘speakers’ lol).

  • @matthewmeserve73
    @matthewmeserve73 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantantastic vid Glen..very helpful.

  • @jonahharris1111
    @jonahharris1111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was awesome! From everything I’ve been watching and reading this really summed it all up. And the mixer advice and mic suggestions are fantastic! Thank you!!!

  • @dcp10200
    @dcp10200 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The best guitar tone I captured was Hughes and Kettner Tubemeister 36 into a Recto 412 with a 57 and 421 in a sort of Fredman position through a 4 Channel Daking Pre. The 57 on it's own was pretty good sounding and would've been fine, but the 421 and the 57 together sounded amazing without the need for eq besides the obvious high pass and low pass to keep it out of the way of the bass and cymbals . I guess the 57 has a fairly pronounced proximity effect and that's what makes it sound good when it's right up on the source and the 421 balances that out as it has a bit of a presence peak at the top end, using a bright and a dark speaker also enhances those characteristics as well

  • @DragisaBoca
    @DragisaBoca 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    8:31 Keep this in mind: "You're recording metal". Cheers to that! :D

  • @PeranMe
    @PeranMe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this, so many good ideas here, and the final sound is all the proof I need! Keep being awesome!

  • @demon100486
    @demon100486 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is fantastic Glenn! Thanks man!

  • @chrismonaut
    @chrismonaut 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    nice video. warren is such a nice guy man!
    always nice to see that the top producers are not half as snobby when it comes to gear than the average internet gear forum hero...

    • @chrismonaut
      @chrismonaut 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh and a question: do you sum all that to mono in your daw or how did you do that? the mixer seems to send stereo?

    • @SpectreSoundStudios
      @SpectreSoundStudios  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Chris Wacker you can pan to one side if you like, but it's mono down the center. Seemed cleanest.

    • @MidlifeRenaissanceMan
      @MidlifeRenaissanceMan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Chris Wacker I'll second Glenn's advice. I have been playing with the two mic trick. one on an open back combo and a second on a quad running off a slaved Bassman. I've tried splitting them in the pan by varying degrees, but it's most natural when they are panned identical in the mix.
      To be clear, I had two tracks on the DAW, and I summed them there. I haven't got the luxury of a sound booth. I have to evaluate after the fact
      Glenn, the secret with the Behringer pre is the transistors they use on the input. The chips are so so, but the differential amp input uses discrete components, well at least that is the case on the ADAT rack. Apparently they are some magic silicon which just works well.

    • @lutboy2909
      @lutboy2909 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      of cource, behringer it puts care to its input circuits, I do not say that it is the great thing since for what it is worth not expect great quality, but in terms of quality / price are the best, I use a Xenyx X2442USB for events, and the truth it was fun to use 2 or 3 mic for the guitar line, the faithful sm57, a Peavey - Pvm 325y when it was not available the 325 used an sm58, all using the sm57 base, as far as the cabinet was used from classic marshall (jensse speakers ) until some home made
      the joke is, this console has a very noble pre-amplification stage, and works excellently to play with the tone of the amplifier

  • @ericellis2729
    @ericellis2729 6 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Going for that Tim Horton's sponsorship ehh??

  • @mathewpetiprin2171
    @mathewpetiprin2171 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Duuuuude mind bending how simple, yet how great that method is!!!

  • @davimoreira001
    @davimoreira001 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Thanks for sharing this awesome trick!

  • @blu_sonic1861
    @blu_sonic1861 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    DAMN NICE VIDEO MAN

  • @pyrael668
    @pyrael668 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My First good recordings were through an 802!! I used a cheap $10 Small Diaphragm condenser mic (Takstar PCM-6100), a Radio Shack # 33-128 Super-Cardiod, and a marshall 15w bass Practice amp on the "Classic" channel. Sat it under the cushions on the couch and shredded away, recording into an old windows XP PC with onboard audio to the line in on Cakewalk ProAudio 9!!
    A Long time ago, and certainly not a place I wish to return HAHA!!
    Now I run my mics (still have all those PCM6100s and RS mics tho) into a 24ch RAMSA and record on an HD24.
    It's amazing what you can do with the cheapest shit available!

    • @stephenbaldassarre2289
      @stephenbaldassarre2289 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Steven Schwarz Back in my Mackie 1202 days, I used to record my guitarist's 10-Watt Park amp inside a small road case that was padded with foam.

  • @minjiigo
    @minjiigo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mind blowing, man. Thank you for the amazing tip and straightforward video!
    Much appreciated.

  • @Patryk-Szczupakowski
    @Patryk-Szczupakowski 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found this tutorial very useful! Thank you, Glenn!

  • @headlesssoldier
    @headlesssoldier 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    cool vid. I actually did all of these things he mentions just by instinct back in the day. my local band would track our stuff on blaceface adats, and take it to the old Smart Studios to mix. And a couple of the engineers there we're impressed by my guitar sounds. Then again, those guys weren't into those types of sounds. From whatever pre you use, I quickly discovered that high quality pre's didnt work as easily as a Bob Mackie cheapy. The thing about a distorted guitar is many times high quality mics and pre's expose the sound too much. They can really take the excitement and turn distorted sounds into generic oddities. And amps these days? in the late 80s you had to make a heavy sound. I used to mic the back of a Cab to get low mid thump (sort of worked) or used a BBE. Anything you could find to get that low end. Bill Lawrence pickups. all sorts of eqs in effects loops etc etc. anything. these days? lol. You can buy that sound from any of the popular ready made amps available. All you have to do is get it clear and your most of the way there. One thing I used to do...and I maybe crazy...but I would check the sound by panning it one side. When it sounded like a punchy, focused sound...as if the monitor were the amp itself...I knew I had it. Anway...Great channel.

  • @riffedwood5597
    @riffedwood5597 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Panama guitar cabinets have removable screens on the front for exactly this. They also have removable back panels

    • @STRATOHOLICRichman
      @STRATOHOLICRichman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love my Panama Cab not for just this reason but it's a great feature. The D30 speakers (low mid accentuated V30 Clones) are fantastic, my Mesa/Boogie amps love them.

    • @frantisekvtelensky820
      @frantisekvtelensky820 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ENGL have those metal grills on guitar cabinets and on 90% combo amps fixed with screws. So you can easily remove those grills and after recording put those back. Great option! :)

    • @STRATOHOLICRichman
      @STRATOHOLICRichman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The brightest sound will always be when the grille is removed.

    • @frantisekvtelensky820
      @frantisekvtelensky820 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Zachary Williams - Man, to be honest, I did not made any test, cuz I like the sound with grill ON, so I did not changed it. But I know, that some people like it when grill is removed. Not even on Engl cabinets/combo amps, but even on Mesa cabs, Marshalls, Orange etc. You know, different people, different preferences. And that's cool about music - options and diversity! :)

    • @jdreyn85
      @jdreyn85 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      STRAT-O-HOLIC Richman I have my Laney irt60h going into my 212 dirty 30 panama cab, get some dirty nasty sounds

  • @dtgris7291
    @dtgris7291 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was amazing, thanks for sharing!

  • @flyboymcgee8059
    @flyboymcgee8059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The ART Studio V3 is a prime example of low cost, great value. Voicing options, tube swaps and a very responsive gain stage makes for lots of room to tweak it. Getting absolutely fantastic results with low cost mics and not-so-ideal acoustic environments

  • @ivtympanistam9903
    @ivtympanistam9903 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Please do a video on proper gain staging!

    • @SpectreSoundStudios
      @SpectreSoundStudios  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +IV Tympanistam thought I just did!

    • @ivtympanistam9903
      @ivtympanistam9903 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No I mean for other instruments as well. Drums especially. I don't know how many times I've been sent files with the overheads and rooms clipping like crazy due to people running the mics too hot.

  • @BLACKF1R3OFFICIAL
    @BLACKF1R3OFFICIAL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Note to self: DON'T MIX WHILE WEARING HEADPHONES.

  • @koffinradio4134
    @koffinradio4134 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome! Thanks for the great tips!

  • @christophermontez5889
    @christophermontez5889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent thank you! Enjoyed seeing u jam too

  • @anomitrobhowmik9853
    @anomitrobhowmik9853 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Was the intro a shampoo ad?

  • @lpsdogolpsgoodtime1852
    @lpsdogolpsgoodtime1852 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So I noticed you have to wires at the eurorack's outputs. I know you don't have the Mics panned, so are you sending a stereo signal out of the eurorack into your interface? Or are you sending a mono signal?

    • @zyxwfish
      @zyxwfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It should be mono. Don’t know why he has it like that. Maybe just for this video.

  • @michal26691
    @michal26691 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That full mix was punchy as hell, I love it!

  • @jw92691
    @jw92691 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this trick Glen. I live in So Cal and am amazed at how many hidden gem studios are down here. Happy Holidays :-)

  • @HydrillaTx
    @HydrillaTx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So, where do the outputs from the Behringer mixer go into the interface/DAW, and do you pan them left and right?

    • @m0th3rst4r
      @m0th3rst4r 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you mix the two into one track. use a line input.

    • @TrentCrawfordMusic
      @TrentCrawfordMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was gonna be my question... so you have to record them blended to get the effect? Or can you record both separately to a track each and blend in DAW?

    • @mrcoatsworth429
      @mrcoatsworth429 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TrentCrawfordMusic yes, he's recording the blended guitar tones as one track. This is called analog summing (= blending signals together using analog gear). Some people think it sounds better than summing inside the daw, because of the subtle things that happen inside the analog equipment, like saturation, compression etc.

  • @nicholash4525
    @nicholash4525 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The problem with behringer products is that 60% of the time they work every time. :/

  • @terryvoorbij6260
    @terryvoorbij6260 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video man! Really digging these tips!

  • @TomsGreenMind
    @TomsGreenMind 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I like the most about this video is your openness to new ideas. Doesn't matter how long you've been doing something, there are always new things to learn from others and being able to keep your ego from getting in the way of great results is the best thing you can do.
    Also it makes sense that distorted tones actually benefit from cheap, not great sounding pre amps! It's not supposed to be pleasant! I'll certainly keep that in mind for future recordings.

  • @christiaanbezuidenhout6984
    @christiaanbezuidenhout6984 6 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I'm a drummer, but didn't understand what your t-shirt said?...

    • @Soundtrack33VEVO
      @Soundtrack33VEVO 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Christiaan Bezuidenhout That’s the point

    • @stockmarketsantaclaus1110
      @stockmarketsantaclaus1110 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The drummer is an idiot ,the bass man is a lazy idiot , lead guitar is a premadonna ,and auto tune vocals suck.... pretty sure that about sums it up even a drummer should understand.but on the bright side I wouldn't even try to explain if you said you played the bass guitar lol

    • @Swampster70
      @Swampster70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stockmarketsantaclaus1110 bright side? does that mean the drummer needs an SM57 up his ass?

  • @veerchasm1
    @veerchasm1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Behringer makes kick ass stuff, I could care less how cheap they are. Glenn, are you recording the 2 blended channels to single track or keeping them separate?

    • @thekramer1097
      @thekramer1097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He blended them to a single track. Said it in the video

    • @xxNeosxx
      @xxNeosxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did a single track, anyway if you record multitrack is a nice experiment to check different combinations with the same recording guitar

  • @sansocie
    @sansocie 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Warren is a trip. Enjoy seeing you both working together on the art of music. Peace.

  • @jonathananthony1901
    @jonathananthony1901 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so awesome to see because I JUST bought a 2 Mic setup with THAT EXACT MIXER for recording in my DAW this past summer. I haven't had a chance to really do much recording yet...... But now I know I made the right choices!

  • @krakulandia
    @krakulandia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The technology has moved forward a lot since the 1960s. You get high end results with very cheap gear these days.
    Almost all modern preamps (even the extremely cheap ones on the cheapest mixers) are of super high quality. There is usually no audible difference in almost any of them when compared to dedicated multi-thousand dollar ones. There is no magic to the relatively simple preamp circuit. It’s cheap to design and manufacture really high quality ones, especially with modern electronics component tolerances.
    Gearslutz is to be blamed on making the preamp selection a religion. The cheapest preamps might have a little more hiss, but thats about it. I.e. they are not more muddy sounding.
    Another religion inside the recording industry is the audio interface quality: “I can definitely hear a difference between your $300 audio interface compared to my $3000 one.” No you can’t. The quality of the ADC/DAC chips and their amplification circuits (when comparing between the cheap and expensive ones) has been of so high quality for the past 10-15 years already, that the signal differences they produce are well below the capabilities of human hearing.

    • @kubakesy6121
      @kubakesy6121 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      thx man!

    • @stevenrempel
      @stevenrempel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      shhhh don't tell the gearsluts. I started investigating microphone building and I've have to say a similar thing about mics. Sometimes it's about breaking the rules you leanred in audio school haha ;)

    • @jtubef8620
      @jtubef8620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      While this is somewhat true, there isn't "no difference", between a vintage Neumann through an SSL vs. a B4 through an 18i20, for example. You can get great results, but don't try to tell me that they're the same quality and will sound essentially the same. They aren't and they won't.

    • @mrcoatsworth429
      @mrcoatsworth429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Huge difference between my old Behringer UMC and my new Audient interface. The Audient preamp is so much quieter.

    • @ArcadeMusicTribute
      @ArcadeMusicTribute 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dude - I've invested 2000 eur in 2x Neve 1073 preamp 10 years ago and I never looked back. It has been my working horse ever since and I never regreted the decision. I've liked Apis better on guitars but only slightly. You can use cheap preamps all you want and I believe you can get good results but I'll just stick with my Neve. I mean 2k is a lot of money but I've been using it for 10 years on all of my recordings and intend to use it forever and ever.

  • @scarlettaudio7424
    @scarlettaudio7424 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey Glen I’m Curious why did you use the 57 as the dark mic and not on the cone?

    • @BillHesse
      @BillHesse 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe the idea is that the 57 pics up the mids and the tom mic adds the bass and treble.

    • @alexanderhansen5452
      @alexanderhansen5452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The high end would be over-accentuated by the SM57s hiss and fizziness if it was the bright mic. Similarly with the low end being accentuated by the tom mic, if it was used as the dark mic. Placing them in their contrasting positions helps tame those frequencies from sounding harsher, thus making the blend much easier without carving their EQs to fit.

  • @Grub370
    @Grub370 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheers for the video, love your content!

  • @al6667
    @al6667 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this, I tried it last night and got some amazing tracks. They sound so friggin loud! I've been recording music since the late 80's but never stumbled on to this technique, I'm gonna be using this all the time!

  • @annekecotrotsos3654
    @annekecotrotsos3654 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi. Quick (silly?) question:
    If you mix the two signals together on the board, why are you going out of the mixer in stereo?
    Thank you for your time.

    • @1Capnjazz
      @1Capnjazz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anneke Cotrotsos wondering the same thing.

    • @exe4eye
      @exe4eye 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They aren't hard panned, so they mix together thru a stereo output

    • @jontayyee3
      @jontayyee3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, how are you monitoring(listening to)what you are doing? Is the cab in a seperate room? Otherwise you would be hearing the cab & not the mixer through your monitors, right?

  • @jackmcbride9939
    @jackmcbride9939 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    V30’s are okay. Patriot Swamp Things, and Celestion G12’s tho 👌

  • @jadelouisetidman7400
    @jadelouisetidman7400 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re an extremely useful and helpful legend My friend!

  • @docwallacemusic
    @docwallacemusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! I subscribed to your channel for great recording tips videos like this. I enjoy your other content, too, but I really love it when you demonstrate recording and gear tips, especially if they can help people on a tight budget to get great results. Pröps, düde!

  • @Hexspa
    @Hexspa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Plot twist: pros use mackie

  • @vincentmasterbassist6784
    @vincentmasterbassist6784 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Why does distortion sound like shit until its mixed with a full band? Then it sounds amazing

    • @SpectreSoundStudios
      @SpectreSoundStudios  6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      +Vincent master bassist that's what's important: how it works in a mix

    • @user-po5bi6jb9g
      @user-po5bi6jb9g 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I thought you replied with bassists that's what matters

    • @kirbsch8524
      @kirbsch8524 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ciaran fay same lol

    • @noobpower96
      @noobpower96 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      because of the lack of bass guitar most times.

    • @pmw928
      @pmw928 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Vincent master bassist Distorted guitars have the mids turned up to cut through the mix. When you already have the bass on the low end, you need the guitar to occupy a different tonal range, otherwise you have two instruments competing instead of complementing each other. It might sound a little thin on its own, but when the bass and drums are added in, you get the full range of sounds for the mix.

  • @StuntcatTV
    @StuntcatTV 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you got your tone straight again, that was some hard hitting stuff there.

  • @wolfsden5842
    @wolfsden5842 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guitar playing has improved heaps Glenn, awesome tutorial!

  • @Henriquealexps
    @Henriquealexps 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Do you think the blanket would help with the neighbors?

    • @Smurfman256
      @Smurfman256 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Sure, just use it to smother them in their sleep. No neighbors, no problem.

    • @SpectreSoundStudios
      @SpectreSoundStudios  6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      +Henrique Silva no. You need isolation. Better to build a cabinet "doghouse"

    • @Henriquealexps
      @Henriquealexps 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Smurfman256 now thats the greatest trick ever! Haha

    • @Henriquealexps
      @Henriquealexps 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      SpectreSoundStudios Thanks! Also thank you for the great content!

    • @tubo628
      @tubo628 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They're moving blankets. You could help your neighbors move out of the neighborhood

  • @burningempire666
    @burningempire666 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Really can't stand that thin metallic, scrapy tone that is so popular nowadays

    • @jaychen2000metal
      @jaychen2000metal 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Charles Ayala which is why he doesn't like Line 6

    • @fredriksvard2603
      @fredriksvard2603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like the scooped mids that everyone rips on for getting ”lost in the mix” (lol)

    • @3101max
      @3101max 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i think the periphery guitar tone is pretty much the best out there right now....for any genre.. just so aggressive and clear and beautiful at the same time

    • @jaychen2000metal
      @jaychen2000metal 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, listen to Volturyon. That is some crushing metal tone. Periphery is too sharp and dry

  • @angelojannotti7988
    @angelojannotti7988 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your stuff !!! Thanks!!!

  • @fakkroft
    @fakkroft 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man you are a GOD of recording! Thx god for your lessons!

  • @ryan_riffs
    @ryan_riffs 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid Glen.

  • @th3gr81
    @th3gr81 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my first time seeing Glenn play guitar. This is cool, thank you for the new technique.

  • @sammachin9119
    @sammachin9119 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyou dude, for making recording tutorials, so digestible.

  • @The1979spike
    @The1979spike 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    just learnt so much from one video, thank you sir

  • @dylankaminkow5411
    @dylankaminkow5411 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    brilliant. i've always done this with my console but i happen to have that exact behringer mixer in the live room just for rehearsals. def gonna give it a shot against my other console pres and see which i like more!

  • @1upfx281
    @1upfx281 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just realized I had one of these mixers sitting around so I did some experimenting using an sm57 and a Sennheiser e906. I got results that I was much happier with than running those through some of my more expensive rack preamps. Thanks for the great tip Glenn!

  • @RememberingGames
    @RememberingGames 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Glenn! I started to use that technique for my guitars. Wooooow! This is amazing! I just added a slight twist: an MD421 as a third mic for more middle. The 3 mics are blended in the cheap xenyx mixer and straight to my interface. This is the best sounding guitar sound I've ever heard on my own recording. Also, I removed all EQs from my guitar track as this guitar sound is already sounding just the way I want without further modifications. So many thanks for digging this out! Cheers from Québec!

  • @megazillion2946
    @megazillion2946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This will be the second time I have used this technique now. This track isn't metal ( more noisy garage ) but I want some gnarl. It's great. Love this trick, thanks!