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which type of dsp do l need when running the following gear, 6, 6 inch mid range speakers focal 6.5km and audiofrog bg6 4, bullet tweeters hertz spl show st 5k neo 4, dome tweeters memphis audio srx1 4, 6x9 way speakers kicker 46cs6934 2, 15 inch dvc subs memphis audio 2, 10 inch dvc subs memphis audio l am running a Kenwood DMX1057XR headunit amps running 3 Audio control LC- 4 800 2 audio control LC-1 1500 all this gear is for my party bus that l hire out,
LegitMods4u maybe you could respond I'm trying to get the parts together to start doing my car audio upgrade I'm trying to retain my factory head unit and am aware that I will need a line out converter. I want to amplify my door and rear deck speakers and also wire in a subwoofer, I'm wondering how to wire them. If I get a four channel line out converter for the door and deck speakers where would I wire my subwoofer? Also do I go with a four or five channel amplifier? I understand a LOC as being the inputs to the amp via RCA and running wires from the amp to the door speakers for my outputs but where do I get my output to my sub.
five channel amp solves your search for sub low levels, or split the low level converted from the rear channels. Or buy a DSP like this and just run your high levels into that, and it will give you front, rear, and sub out. He did exactly what you're trying to do in this video, Convert a stock heads high levels into multiple low outputs.
Well tommorow is the day I been looking forward to for 2 weeks! Finally got an install scheduled using this exact Dsp, a 4 channel amp, and subs. So here I am at 12:00 the night before reading up and studying on this thing because it’s my first time using one haha.
@@PeePeePooPoo07 it came out great. However 2 years and hundreds of installs later, I’ve found that a solid aftermarket radio with network mode and good amps and a dsp is kinda pointless for most users. 🤷🏼♂️
I just purchased the DM-608, I can't wait to install it. I Wish it had more videos of the 608 and 810 on TH-cam. I'll like to see more set ups with them.
I installed the 6 channel amplifier version of this today and have got to say it blew me away how good it was and yet how easy it is to use, so defiantly on my list for the next big build Great video as always Mark
I am going to purchase this piece to use in my latest install as I think it will be the central and critical piece of building an exceptional sound system. I think you really have to understand conceptually all that this piece can do and all of the customization it offers to realize why it has that power. I've always loved competition car audio and my last system was great but very old school. I actually dreamt about this device on paper before I actually realized it had been built and the Gods at AudioControl (who else is there) were the creators of this amazing control center, what, with crossovers of all kinds, AutoEQ, built in RTA, time delay, and all controlled from a software interface, this is a serious piece with some well thought out concepts.
Let us now which you decide on. If it is the DM-810 and you require any assistance we can be reached at 425-775-8461 Also curious if you have an RTA available when the time comes to do the install. If not the DM-810 would surely be a good choice.
MarK as always a great professional video . You've come along way in the last few years . I now make my car audio installations and purchases with information you provide in your video's. You help me make informed choices. Been subscribed since the start. The United kingdom is a better place for it. Please keep it up.
Great video!!! Just bought a DXDQ Audio control DSP and even though it has a few less options then the one featured, I can not wait to install it. Have had a system in every car Ive ever owned but the sound has never been perfect so I am hoping this does the trick.
Great review, as usual you're always adding value to the car audio fanatics and DIYers. Excellent product as well. A suggestion for audiocontrol: The line RTA is very welcome, but the unit should also have a mic for autotune purposes. Most DIYers don't have a full RTA at home and/or don't want to take the car for a shop to tune the audio system. I'm using a JBL MS-8 right now specially because of that feature, replacing an audison Bit ten D. Thx
Thank you for the remarks and suggestions. We have a very aggressive product development plan and have some very cool and amazing technology that will come out of the Pacific Northwest in the next couple years!
I agree. The MS-8 is a cult classic for this very reason. It is the only DSP with auto-tune (AND CENTER CHANNEL/SURROUND SOUND SUPPORT!!!). Now, if it allowed you to view and edit the EQ curves it created, that would be what I'm looking for. And if it worked better (MS-8 requires you to play with volume settings and re-do the auto-tune multiple times before it gets it "right").
Audio Control Just confirmed to me that the Blue Tooth module for the DM DSPs will be released late Feb 2018. Additionally, apps for the Android and Apple OS are also being released around the same time which makes sense since they are symbiotic. Another update is the firmware this April that will include the individual EQ capability of each channel versus the current EQ channel pair. In other words channels 1/2 and 3/4 will no long be combined so you can tune channel 1, 2, 3, 4 independent of each other. Prior to this update I was using channels 1/2 for front left and channels 3/4 for front right to get my separate EQ capability. I used the mono 5/6 for my sub and 7/8 for rear fill or center channel (I toyed with both but the rears worked better for me in my 2010 Acura TL. I used a low powered 3 inch center channel running off the factory amp which did impact time alignment because it created an echo effect. I was able to use the input tab on the DM608 to delay the signal to eliminate the echo. I then used the left channel delay for channels 1/2 and the right channel delay for channels 3/4 to set my sound stage. I was concerned using two delays might cause and issue but it worked out in this case. Once I get the updated firmware its time to tear down and reconfigure things a bit.
I really enjoy your videos. Straight forward info and easy to understand. I've been trying to understand the specs between the different units they offer. Kinda wish you introduced the lineup at the beginning and differences. Maybe you did vids on the other mods, will check the drop down. great video as always.
According to this video the unit has an LED that lights to let you know when it is clipping. Having said that, an oscilloscope can show you the actual wave and you can visually see when it begins to clip. I am looking forward to comparing them to see how accurate the light actually is.
I have an RCA output from my aftermarket radio, can i use only this one as an input to the DM-810 or should i get individual signals from the speaker harness?
Yo, I love your videos and that DSP looks rad. My only 2c would be to get yourself a ferrule crimper and insulated ferrules when using those Phoenix connectors. Keep it up!
Are these as useful with aftermarket head units too? And I guess getting the signal leveled is the starting point, right? Then, you need to measure with a mic to see how the interior characteristics of the vehicle affect the corrected signal to do the final correction, I assume?
@caraudiofabrication I need guidance. I have (4) 6x8 speakers, (2) tweeters, (2) subwoofers. Powering it I have a 5 channel amp for the speakers, and a 2 channel sub amp. What I need help with is what do I need to get it setup/ equalized. I also have 2 volume control knobs, 1 for speakers(6) and 1 for subs(2). I'm using a tablet for output. No headunit. I have from the tablet a 3.5 aux to rca connected to 2 rca y-splitters going to each amp. What do I do? What do I need?
Mark, When it comes to the DM-810/608 delay settings of each speaker, what is your preference? In other words, if the vehicle is used by two people at the same time, one driver and one passenger, what is your recommendation for setting the delays? Do you optimize for the region center of both front seats? I would think that adding the ACR-3 would enable two settings (Memory), one delay optimized for the driver when alone, then a second optimized for two people centered between the front seats - that is if the Acr-3 can select between memories.
I love this video, thank you. I just ordered the DM 608 and was wondering if there is any material that goes deeper into the application that helps a beginner successfully navigate and setting up their DSP for their system? The reason I ask is, for my car I have 17 speakers, six tweeters, six 6.5s, two 8s, 1 driver/horn and my 2 subs which are running off of 3 amps. 3500W Class D monoblock for my subs and two 1600W Class D 4 channel... one for mids and one for highs. Every speaker is wired down to a lower impedance. My subs, DVC 4ohm wired to 1ohm, tweeters, 6.5s and 8s SVC 4ohm wired to 2ohm. My 3500W is 1ohm stable, RMS Power 3500W- 1ohm: 1 channel at 14.4v and my two 1600W 4 channels RMS Power are 2ohm: 320W x 4 channels at 14.4v. My tweeters and driver/horn are DS18s - tweeters 225w RMS and driver/horn is 320W RMS. My 6.5s and 8s are SunDown Neo Pro v3, 6.5s 180w RMS and 8s are 200w RMS. My subs are Skar Audio VXF 12s 3000W Max/1500W RMS. I originally had all Skar products, tweeters, 6.5s, 8s, subs and amps. I am in the process of removing all skar products from my car due to a falling out with a local car audio shop and Skar directly, Skar seem to assist this shop in ripping me off for over 428.00 for a enclosure they completely screwed up the port size for VXFs. I've completed the replacing the skar inside speakers. Now I'm waiting for Deaf Bonce to restock on their apocalypse series DB-3012 D1 12s, their apocalypse series AAK 4K.1D D class monoblock amp and two apocalypse series AAB 500.4D 4 channel amps to replace my skar amps plus subs. Any way, after typing all this I'm not sure why it was necessary but I was hoping there was material out there that dives deeper into how navigate and setup the DM 608 DSP?
awesome video review Mark...what would be cool tho is a device that will tell you how many watts you're sending to any given speaker and exactly what frequency you are sending to them. my electronic crossover is the old school Sony XEC 700, which I think is analog. I could really use that type of info when tuning a system.
Mark, a question... When I use a DSP like the one in the video, all equalization and crossover adjustments will be done exclusively on the DSP, right? So on the device that is the sound/signal source (multimedia/CD Player/receiver), and which is before the DSP, I: (1) leave the equalization in "flat", that is, I don't do any equalization and (2) ) I don't use the crossover that is integrated into the sound source, that is, I leave the crossover deactivated. The same goes for the amplifier that is after the DSP, that is, if the amplifier has some type of equalization, this equalization must be deactivated, it must be in "flat"; and if the amplifier has any crossover adjustment; This feature must be disabled. Is my reasoning correct?
Hi Mark, I have a question about the remote out section of the dsp. Why do you have 2 wires coming out of the remote out? Are they both leading to seperate amplifiers or is one of them leading to a remote 12V wire hooked up to the car?
Can I access those memory settings via remote from a listening position? Like a sound stage for rap vs electronic music? So when I’m listening u can change on the fly? Is there some sort of remote I can use to switch between these settings?
Do you have a video explaining and showing the connecting done from 2:05 to 2:22? Tapping into speakers and running back to DSP? Are those all new wires you run to each speaker? Thank you!
My question is when using the dm810. What do i set the amp xover to. Do i set it to a hp filter or to full range. And what do I set my mono sub amp xover to. Much appreciate your reply.
Mark, if I use the Epicenter Micro, is Accubass needed? (I'm not yet using a DM-810 and not using a EQL). So, the Epicenter Micro will be my line LOC, preamp line driver and bass procesor into an outboard amp. (This is just an OEM integration system. Meaning, I am adding a sub only).
So I’m a beginner I’ve installed many speakers but never tuned a DSP or anything how difficult is this and for a beginner is there a particular model DSP you would recommend. I’m looking at a Gladen 130.4, audiocontrol and JL series but ultimately I want something that’s easy to tune as I don’t know what the heck I’m doing
One thing I always wondered is can you connect aftermarket speakers(or even factory ones) into a dsp like this so your whole system has the same eq? I have my front stage set up with component speakers running active. I disabled the front center speaker on stock wiring. I installed rear speakers for some fill when I have passengers but left it on the stock wiring. Can you run in stock amp wiring then output the RCA's back into the ran speaker wire I did for the rear doors?
I am just using one of these products for the first time. I have some questions. 6.1200 DSP and amp combo The factory head unit I am integrating with has different clip points based on frequency. I have a single Left Right pair for input, the head unit clips 40 HZ at 32 volume level, 400 Hertz at 30, for kilohertz at 25, and 10 kilohertz at 24. I want to amplify these signals in a band pass configuration individually. However the output view is DBA relative so it doesn't allow for boosting outside of the EQ itself. I was thinking that maybe jump ring input channel one two over to 34 and 56, would give me the ability to individually set clip points for both mid bass, mid-range and tweets. This seems like a very roundabout way of doing it but I can't think of anything else given the limitations of this product. Also, how do you deal with phase irregularities without the implementation of any all pass filters? Finally, have you found any issues connecting this to a Windows 11 machine? So far I've only seen it working on Windows 7
Hi mark I have a Cadillac ATS with the bose 10 speaker system. I’m using the Lc2i coming off my factory amp powering my jl hd 750/1 amp which powers my w7. I’ve upgraded my front door speakers so my question is what can I use with the Lc2i to dial in my system better or could I just use the three.2 or the dqdx and do away with the Lc2i all together? I like having the bass knob
Great video! Subscribed and liked! I'm about to put one of these in my '16 Wrangler Unlimited that has the Alpine system pre-installed. I really want to try and see how much more I can get out of the Alpine system before I upgrade the speakers/amp. I'd like to dedicate 8 channels to the 4 pairs of components and use the last 2 for subwoofers.
not to get off subject, but you seem to be more of a genius in audio system than me in 2017. years ago i could understand what you are explaining. I'm installing a system in my 18 wheeler & was wondering if you would be willing to give me some dimensions on ported subwoofer box, thanks in advance. or if there's a app i can download on my phone
Hey, I couldn't afford the DM-810 and instead got the DQDX. Obviously it's not AS good, but do you think it will suffice? I'm putting in a JBL Club system with a pioneer head unit. (Tho I may upgrade that as well) I just couldn't put in another 700 right now, so I'm SETTLING on the DQDX. I was hoping to get your thoughts on it?
Marc, I just purchased this product. My head unit is a kenwood dnx 693s Excelon, with kenwood excelon 1300, 1700 & dash speaker. I was told that I don't need the unit because my head unit does everything that this does by 1 shop & another shop told me it would help. So I'm perplexed. What would be your suggestion? This is in a 07 Cadillac dts.
Can someone help me, I'm just firing up my system with a Dm608 and when the device is detected and says it needs to upgrade firmware, it gives a binary firmware upgrade error. I'm using Mac OS. What's wrong?
The RTA you see on the device is the electrical response. Just because you send a flat response signal to a speaker does not mean that its response will be completely flat, the environment within the vehicle, design of the speaker etc all have an impact on the actual response you hear, thus the need for tuning. Starting with a flat electrical response gives you a much better starting point and you know for a fact what frequency range is being sent to each speaker, this is why it is advantageous to see real time.
Hey all, im confused about a few things. Would i still need to use an RTA microphone and go through each speaker and tweeter individually even with this DSP? Currently running 2 sets of infinity kappa 60.11 components and a kappa k4 amp. How would i be able to control all 4 woofers and all 4 tweeters with the DSP when the amp only has 4 inputs? Please help!
Just curious about what some budget friendly speakers are a good choice to replace the factory 2 ohm speakers in a 2012 Nissan Altima with the standard stock head unit. Sadly no Bose, no touch screen... but you get what you get when purchasing used vehicles. Any serious help is appreciated.
I just bought a dsp with 2 inputs and 8 outputs. I also have a audio control 7 band equalizer and an aftermarket deck with a dsp Ana equalizer. Can I intrigate my audio control equalizer into my new dsp.
@Caraudiofabrication so if i was to buy one of these DM-810s would i still need to use my LC6i? 🧐🤔 i got a 2019 ford flex SEL with the non 8 channel sony system. And im starting to set a system for it and i was going to use my LC6i but if i can get better cleaner sound with the DM-810 i would rather use that.
@carAudioFabrication Mark, I've left my gains at 0.0dB, is that OK? I've checked the factory stereo Distortion point with a DD-1. I'm not familiar with the DSP yet. I don't want to have a problem after spending a week installing everything.
Olá! Ele é compatível ou melhor que o bit nove da audison? Pelo menos vi que ele tem um microfone para calibração mais acessível do que o bit tune. Eu uso um bit nove, mas nunca fiquei 100% satisfeito, por não ter o bit tune pra fazer o ajuste fino. 😕 uso três vias, caixial e subwoofer Hertz Mille.
What kind of cable are you using to connect the dsp from the source unit? I found a cable on a store here in Sweden, 9x0.75mm2 cable, I guess that is the same type o cable you are using?
which type of dsp do l need when running the following gear, 6, 6 inch mid range speakers focal 6.5km and audiofrog bg6 4, bullet tweeters hertz spl show st 5k neo 4, dome tweeters memphis audio srx1 4, 6x9 way speakers kicker 46cs6934 2, 15 inch dvc subs memphis audio 2, 10 inch dvc subs memphis audio l am running a Kenwood DMX1057XR headunit amps running 3 Audio control LC- 4 800 2 audio control LC-1 1500 all this gear is for my party bus that l hire out,
Exactly what I am looking for. However, I do have a question, i know that most who use this piece of equipment will normally be utilizing a 3-way component speaker system actively. Since I am performing my own install, I don’t care to run that much speaker wire therefore, can a system like this be used on a passive 2-3 way component system? Also, how would the x-over on this unit be used in conjunction with a mono block amp? Thank you!
Hi i am ivan, my problem is a noise come out from the speakers when i put my rca from DM810 to power amps even before i put on rca from the source( head unit)
Hi how are you? I want to add a dsp on my system, I have 2 sets of components, in front I have a 3 way Focal ES165KX3 and on my rear doors I have a 3 way jl audio C5-653. My amps are 2 four channel and 1 monoblock for subs. Can you recommend me a dsp?? Right now I'm running a LC6i and the Epicenter. I have OEM Unit.
What would do you do if you have 4 doors for dm810. Would channel 1-2 be front highs 3-4 rear highs 5-6 front mids and 7-8 rear mids then subwoofer on 9 or 10. Everything I read or see in videos no one talks about the rear doors. Thanks if anyone can help
Hello Mark, I hope you are in good health and all your family, Mark, please, I need to know if it is appropriate to install the Epicenter with the MD-810 Audio control, I hope and thank you in advance for your help, thank you very much
@@CarAudioFabrication Grcia Mark for your help and now with more pleasure I will follow your channel, I would like to take my car to you to do wonders of those that I see you have done but you are far from where I am, again thank you very much and congratulations and blessings
We think the DM-810 is the best! Very comparable in many ways but the integrated RTA's and some extra secret sauce makes the DM-810 very very special. On a side note did you know that these are Engineered, Designed, and Manufactured in the US? (using globally sourced components)
I still have a bunch of AudioControl product from the 90's - EQT's still brand new in the boxes. Loved my AudioControl RTA (it got stolen in a burglary along with a bunch of Orion NT amps and a couple of 3558's and Juba's). I used to love the packaging - this way up, don't deep fry or saute, someones sounds gonna sound great with this stuff... @AudioControl, do you need a NZ and Australian distributor?
What do you think about using something like the fx-audio bl-muse-01 and using the optical out as a source unit I think I want to use something like an android tablet as my "in dash" and I want it to sound as good as I can without breaking the bank
This thing seems pretty cool. I have a question. If you only wire or have 4 line level inputs will you be able to still use channels 6-8 on the output?
If I’m running an apicenter and dsp, should i use GTO on the epicenter and GTO on dsp OR GTO epicenter and rem out to dsp remote in and THEN REM out to my 2 amps?
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which type of dsp do l need when running the following gear,
6, 6 inch mid range speakers focal 6.5km and audiofrog bg6
4, bullet tweeters hertz spl show st 5k neo
4, dome tweeters memphis audio srx1
4, 6x9 way speakers kicker 46cs6934
2, 15 inch dvc subs memphis audio
2, 10 inch dvc subs memphis audio
l am running a Kenwood DMX1057XR headunit
amps running 3 Audio control LC- 4 800
2 audio control LC-1 1500
all this gear is for my party bus that l hire out,
Nice, now I just need to find someone local with the knowledge of this guy/channel, to do my install.
good luck
In South Africa there’s only 3 places that have this kind of knowledge. 1 in Boksburg and 1 in Pretoria and 1 in Cape Town.
I thought I knew a lot about audio till I saw this video..
LegitMods4u maybe you could respond I'm trying to get the parts together to start doing my car audio upgrade I'm trying to retain my factory head unit and am aware that I will need a line out converter. I want to amplify my door and rear deck speakers and also wire in a subwoofer, I'm wondering how to wire them. If I get a four channel line out converter for the door and deck speakers where would I wire my subwoofer? Also do I go with a four or five channel amplifier? I understand a LOC as being the inputs to the amp via RCA and running wires from the amp to the door speakers for my outputs but where do I get my output to my sub.
five channel amp solves your search for sub low levels, or split the low level converted from the rear channels. Or buy a DSP like this and just run your high levels into that, and it will give you front, rear, and sub out. He did exactly what you're trying to do in this video, Convert a stock heads high levels into multiple low outputs.
Heard it one time “the more you learn, the less you know.”
Ye me too
Well tommorow is the day I been looking forward to for 2 weeks! Finally got an install scheduled using this exact Dsp, a 4 channel amp, and subs. So here I am at 12:00 the night before reading up and studying on this thing because it’s my first time using one haha.
How did it come out, I’m planning on getting mine and trying to justify my purchase/see if it’s worth if
@@PeePeePooPoo07 it came out great. However 2 years and hundreds of installs later, I’ve found that a solid aftermarket radio with network mode and good amps and a dsp is kinda pointless for most users. 🤷🏼♂️
man this is like car audio NASA addition. you are a genius. 👍
SKO NYC add or ed?
I just purchased the DM-608, I can't wait to install it. I Wish it had more videos of the 608 and 810 on TH-cam. I'll like to see more set ups with them.
I installed the 6 channel amplifier version of this today and have got to say it blew me away how good it was and yet how easy it is to use, so defiantly on my list for the next big build
Great video as always Mark
I'm actually working on an overview video of the D-6.1200 right now. Glad you like it. I do too! Definitely a great sounding easy to tune amp.
I am going to purchase this piece to use in my latest install as I think it will be the central and critical piece of building an exceptional sound system. I think you really have to understand conceptually all that this piece can do and all of the customization it offers to realize why it has that power. I've always loved competition car audio and my last system was great but very old school. I actually dreamt about this device on paper before I actually realized it had been built and the Gods at AudioControl (who else is there) were the creators of this amazing control center, what, with crossovers of all kinds, AutoEQ, built in RTA, time delay, and all controlled from a software interface, this is a serious piece with some well thought out concepts.
Just a few hours ago I was comparing the audiocontrol dsp to the audioson one you featured a while back. Thanks for the awesome vids.
Let us now which you decide on. If it is the DM-810 and you require any assistance we can be reached at 425-775-8461 Also curious if you have an RTA available when the time comes to do the install. If not the DM-810 would surely be a good choice.
AudioControl does the DM-810 have a separate EQ for each channel pair?
Any updates??
MarK as always a great professional video . You've come along way in the last few years .
I now make my car audio installations and purchases with information you provide in your video's. You help me make informed choices.
Been subscribed since the start. The United kingdom is a better place for it. Please keep it up.
Thanks for the support and watching. :)
Great video!!! Just bought a DXDQ Audio control DSP and even though it has a few less options then the one featured, I can not wait to install it. Have had a system in every car Ive ever owned but the sound has never been perfect so I am hoping this does the trick.
Great review, as usual you're always adding value to the car audio fanatics and DIYers. Excellent product as well.
A suggestion for audiocontrol: The line RTA is very welcome, but the unit should also have a mic for autotune purposes. Most DIYers don't have a full RTA at home and/or don't want to take the car for a shop to tune the audio system. I'm using a JBL MS-8 right now specially because of that feature, replacing an audison Bit ten D. Thx
Thank you for the remarks and suggestions. We have a very aggressive product development plan and have some very cool and amazing technology that will come out of the Pacific Northwest in the next couple years!
I agree. The MS-8 is a cult classic for this very reason. It is the only DSP with auto-tune (AND CENTER CHANNEL/SURROUND SOUND SUPPORT!!!). Now, if it allowed you to view and edit the EQ curves it created, that would be what I'm looking for. And if it worked better (MS-8 requires you to play with volume settings and re-do the auto-tune multiple times before it gets it "right").
That cable use to run high level signal is looking nice, very clean.
Bought one Xmas day. Excited af to fiddle with it....in a couple months when the system is done lol
Thanks for the time and effort putting this up. Kuddos to you and video team!
Audio Control Just confirmed to me that the Blue Tooth module for the DM DSPs will be released late Feb 2018. Additionally, apps for the Android and Apple OS are also being released around the same time which makes sense since they are symbiotic. Another update is the firmware this April that will include the individual EQ capability of each channel versus the current EQ channel pair. In other words channels 1/2 and 3/4 will no long be combined so you can tune channel 1, 2, 3, 4 independent of each other. Prior to this update I was using channels 1/2 for front left and channels 3/4 for front right to get my separate EQ capability. I used the mono 5/6 for my sub and 7/8 for rear fill or center channel (I toyed with both but the rears worked better for me in my 2010 Acura TL. I used a low powered 3 inch center channel running off the factory amp which did impact time alignment because it created an echo effect. I was able to use the input tab on the DM608 to delay the signal to eliminate the echo. I then used the left channel delay for channels 1/2 and the right channel delay for channels 3/4 to set my sound stage. I was concerned using two delays might cause and issue but it worked out in this case. Once I get the updated firmware its time to tear down and reconfigure things a bit.
I really enjoy your videos. Straight forward info and easy to understand. I've been trying to understand the specs between the different units they offer. Kinda wish you introduced the lineup at the beginning and differences. Maybe you did vids on the other mods, will check the drop down. great video as always.
so detailed, what more could you want in a review
Do I still need an oscilloscope to check for clipping from head unit if I buy this ?
According to this video the unit has an LED that lights to let you know when it is clipping. Having said that, an oscilloscope can show you the actual wave and you can visually see when it begins to clip. I am looking forward to comparing them to see how accurate the light actually is.
Great information! Thank you for taking the time to explain a lot of the features.
used to use the old school oeq's and audiocontrols analog eqs love the built in rta will try one out
This has really sparked my enthusiasm
I have an RCA output from my aftermarket radio, can i use only this one as an input to the DM-810 or should i get individual signals from the speaker harness?
Yo, I love your videos and that DSP looks rad. My only 2c would be to get yourself a ferrule crimper and insulated ferrules when using those Phoenix connectors. Keep it up!
Are these as useful with aftermarket head units too? And I guess getting the signal leveled is the starting point, right? Then, you need to measure with a mic to see how the interior characteristics of the vehicle affect the corrected signal to do the final correction, I assume?
Man I can't wait to get one!! Gonna be a while though. 😔 Great video as always Mark!! 👌
Hell yeah, my caf fix for the day!
Thanks for watching!
Audio Control equipment rules
ahh AUto-eq!!! thats insanity! man I want that DSP
Do it have limiter on the outputs
@caraudiofabrication I need guidance. I have (4) 6x8 speakers, (2) tweeters, (2) subwoofers. Powering it I have a 5 channel amp for the speakers, and a 2 channel sub amp. What I need help with is what do I need to get it setup/ equalized. I also have 2 volume control knobs, 1 for speakers(6) and 1 for subs(2). I'm using a tablet for output. No headunit. I have from the tablet a 3.5 aux to rca connected to 2 rca y-splitters going to each amp. What do I do? What do I need?
Mark, When it comes to the DM-810/608 delay settings of each speaker, what is your preference? In other words, if the vehicle is used by two people at the same time, one driver and one passenger, what is your recommendation for setting the delays? Do you optimize for the region center of both front seats?
I would think that adding the ACR-3 would enable two settings (Memory), one delay optimized for the driver when alone, then a second optimized for two people centered between the front seats - that is if the Acr-3 can select between memories.
As always great sounding advice ( pun intended ) amazing teacher with amazing lessons. Thanks for the education Jedi Car Audio Master
I have a pioneer deh-80prs. will adding this change much for me?
I’d love to see an updated video with the newest updates
I love this video, thank you. I just ordered the DM 608 and was wondering if there is any material that goes deeper into the application that helps a beginner successfully navigate and setting up their DSP for their system? The reason I ask is, for my car I have 17 speakers, six tweeters, six 6.5s, two 8s, 1 driver/horn and my 2 subs which are running off of 3 amps. 3500W Class D monoblock for my subs and two 1600W Class D 4 channel... one for mids and one for highs. Every speaker is wired down to a lower impedance. My subs, DVC 4ohm wired to 1ohm, tweeters, 6.5s and 8s SVC 4ohm wired to 2ohm. My 3500W is 1ohm stable, RMS Power 3500W- 1ohm: 1 channel at 14.4v and my two 1600W 4 channels RMS Power are 2ohm: 320W x 4 channels at 14.4v. My tweeters and driver/horn are DS18s - tweeters 225w RMS and driver/horn is 320W RMS. My 6.5s and 8s are SunDown Neo Pro v3, 6.5s 180w RMS and 8s are 200w RMS. My subs are Skar Audio VXF 12s 3000W Max/1500W RMS.
I originally had all Skar products, tweeters, 6.5s, 8s, subs and amps. I am in the process of removing all skar products from my car due to a falling out with a local car audio shop and Skar directly, Skar seem to assist this shop in ripping me off for over 428.00 for a enclosure they completely screwed up the port size for VXFs. I've completed the replacing the skar inside speakers. Now I'm waiting for Deaf Bonce to restock on their apocalypse series DB-3012 D1 12s, their apocalypse series AAK 4K.1D D class monoblock amp and two apocalypse series AAB 500.4D 4 channel amps to replace my skar amps plus subs.
Any way, after typing all this I'm not sure why it was necessary but I was hoping there was material out there that dives deeper into how navigate and setup the DM 608 DSP?
awesome video review Mark...what would be cool tho is a device that will tell you how many watts you're sending to any given speaker and exactly what frequency you are sending to them. my electronic crossover is the old school Sony XEC 700, which I think is analog. I could really use that type of info when tuning a system.
Mark, a question... When I use a DSP like the one in the video, all equalization and crossover adjustments will be done exclusively on the DSP, right? So on the device that is the sound/signal source (multimedia/CD Player/receiver), and which is before the DSP, I: (1) leave the equalization in "flat", that is, I don't do any equalization and (2) ) I don't use the crossover that is integrated into the sound source, that is, I leave the crossover deactivated. The same goes for the amplifier that is after the DSP, that is, if the amplifier has some type of equalization, this equalization must be deactivated, it must be in "flat"; and if the amplifier has any crossover adjustment; This feature must be disabled. Is my reasoning correct?
a great and very informative video as usual
Can't wait to get this in my car
Hi Mark, I have a question about the remote out section of the dsp. Why do you have 2 wires coming out of the remote out? Are they both leading to seperate amplifiers or is one of them leading to a remote 12V wire hooked up to the car?
Can I access those memory settings via remote from a listening position? Like a sound stage for rap vs electronic music? So when I’m listening u can change on the fly? Is there some sort of remote I can use to switch between these settings?
I had a great system installed in my vehicle and wonder if a DSP will be an inprovement??
Can a factory speaker location limit the quality of sound even if installed with best practices
What is the best way to set my amps when using the DM810?
Do you have a video explaining and showing the connecting done from 2:05 to 2:22? Tapping into speakers and running back to DSP? Are those all new wires you run to each speaker? Thank you!
Hi Mark, will this 810 work with a 2018 F150 with the B&O sound system in place of say a NavTV ?
Yes. This unit is your best bet compared to lots of others on the market
I believe it’s best to set your amplifier before you set up your dsp?
Can I have the link to the program I should download for the tune ?
My question is when using the dm810. What do i set the amp xover to. Do i set it to a hp filter or to full range. And what do I set my mono sub amp xover to. Much appreciate your reply.
Mark, if I use the Epicenter Micro, is Accubass needed? (I'm not yet using a DM-810 and not using a EQL). So, the Epicenter Micro will be my line LOC, preamp line driver and bass procesor into an outboard amp. (This is just an OEM integration system. Meaning, I am adding a sub only).
So I’m a beginner I’ve installed many speakers but never tuned a DSP or anything how difficult is this and for a beginner is there a particular model DSP you would recommend. I’m looking at a Gladen 130.4, audiocontrol and JL series but ultimately I want something that’s easy to tune as I don’t know what the heck I’m doing
One thing I always wondered is can you connect aftermarket speakers(or even factory ones) into a dsp like this so your whole system has the same eq?
I have my front stage set up with component speakers running active. I disabled the front center speaker on stock wiring. I installed rear speakers for some fill when I have passengers but left it on the stock wiring.
Can you run in stock amp wiring then output the RCA's back into the ran speaker wire I did for the rear doors?
I am just using one of these products for the first time. I have some questions. 6.1200 DSP and amp combo
The factory head unit I am integrating with has different clip points based on frequency. I have a single Left Right pair for input, the head unit clips 40 HZ at 32 volume level, 400 Hertz at 30, for kilohertz at 25, and 10 kilohertz at 24.
I want to amplify these signals in a band pass configuration individually. However the output view is DBA relative so it doesn't allow for boosting outside of the EQ itself.
I was thinking that maybe jump ring input channel one two over to 34 and 56, would give me the ability to individually set clip points for both mid bass, mid-range and tweets.
This seems like a very roundabout way of doing it but I can't think of anything else given the limitations of this product.
Also, how do you deal with phase irregularities without the implementation of any all pass filters?
Finally, have you found any issues connecting this to a Windows 11 machine? So far I've only seen it working on Windows 7
Would this work on a new Audi B&O system? I’m trying to bypass the B&O.
Hi mark I have a Cadillac ATS with the bose 10 speaker system. I’m using the Lc2i coming off my factory amp powering my jl hd 750/1 amp which powers my w7. I’ve upgraded my front door speakers so my question is what can I use with the Lc2i to dial in my system better or could I just use the three.2 or the dqdx and do away with the Lc2i all together? I like having the bass knob
Hi Mark need help I have a amp pro GM 61 that has the RCA outputs going into a DSP and then out to the Amplifier?
Great video! Subscribed and liked! I'm about to put one of these in my '16 Wrangler Unlimited that has the Alpine system pre-installed. I really want to try and see how much more I can get out of the Alpine system before I upgrade the speakers/amp. I'd like to dedicate 8 channels to the 4 pairs of components and use the last 2 for subwoofers.
not to get off subject, but you seem to be more of a genius in audio system than me in 2017. years ago i could understand what you are explaining. I'm installing a system in my 18 wheeler & was wondering if you would be willing to give me some dimensions on ported subwoofer box, thanks in advance. or if there's a app i can download on my phone
I just installed this and have a terrible hiss and noise floor... have to turn down the output gain to -12db to not hear it ...
Hey, I couldn't afford the DM-810 and instead got the DQDX. Obviously it's not AS good, but do you think it will suffice? I'm putting in a JBL Club system with a pioneer head unit. (Tho I may upgrade that as well) I just couldn't put in another 700 right now, so I'm SETTLING on the DQDX. I was hoping to get your thoughts on it?
Marc, I just purchased this product. My head unit is a kenwood dnx 693s Excelon, with kenwood excelon 1300, 1700 & dash speaker. I was told that I don't need the unit because my head unit does everything that this does by 1 shop & another shop told me it would help. So I'm perplexed. What would be your suggestion? This is in a 07 Cadillac dts.
Can someone help me, I'm just firing up my system with a Dm608 and when the device is detected and says it needs to upgrade firmware, it gives a binary firmware upgrade error. I'm using Mac OS. What's wrong?
If it has a built in RTA in the software, why would you still need to use a RTA mic to tune it?
The RTA you see on the device is the electrical response. Just because you send a flat response signal to a speaker does not mean that its response will be completely flat, the environment within the vehicle, design of the speaker etc all have an impact on the actual response you hear, thus the need for tuning. Starting with a flat electrical response gives you a much better starting point and you know for a fact what frequency range is being sent to each speaker, this is why it is advantageous to see real time.
Hey all, im confused about a few things. Would i still need to use an RTA microphone and go through each speaker and tweeter individually even with this DSP? Currently running 2 sets of infinity kappa 60.11 components and a kappa k4 amp. How would i be able to control all 4 woofers and all 4 tweeters with the DSP when the amp only has 4 inputs? Please help!
can you skip the speaker level input and just use the LINE LEVEL INPUT??? thanks
So what’s the difference between this unit and the lc 6.1200 unit.
Just curious about what some budget friendly speakers are a good choice to replace the factory 2 ohm speakers in a 2012 Nissan Altima with the standard stock head unit. Sadly no Bose, no touch screen... but you get what you get when purchasing used vehicles. Any serious help is appreciated.
I just bought a dsp with 2 inputs and 8 outputs. I also have a audio control 7 band equalizer and an aftermarket deck with a dsp Ana equalizer. Can I intrigate my audio control equalizer into my new dsp.
@Caraudiofabrication so if i was to buy one of these DM-810s would i still need to use my LC6i? 🧐🤔 i got a 2019 ford flex SEL with the non 8 channel sony system. And im starting to set a system for it and i was going to use my LC6i but if i can get better cleaner sound with the DM-810 i would rather use that.
How much will it run to install an audio control system in a 2017 silverado
@carAudioFabrication Mark, I've left my gains at 0.0dB, is that OK? I've checked the factory stereo Distortion point with a DD-1. I'm not familiar with the DSP yet. I don't want to have a problem after spending a week installing everything.
Olá! Ele é compatível ou melhor que o bit nove da audison? Pelo menos vi que ele tem um microfone para calibração mais acessível do que o bit tune.
Eu uso um bit nove, mas nunca fiquei 100% satisfeito, por não ter o bit tune pra fazer o ajuste fino. 😕 uso três vias, caixial e subwoofer Hertz Mille.
@CarAudioFabrication CarAudioFabrication Mark, did you say in the video that the DM-810 has a separate 30-band EQ for each channel pair?
Where is the iDatalink expansion module that AC promised fir the DM 810? I can’t seem to find it anywhere
What kind of cable are you using to connect the dsp from the source unit? I found a cable on a store here in Sweden, 9x0.75mm2 cable, I guess that is the same type o cable you are using?
which type of dsp do l need when running the following gear,
6, 6 inch mid range speakers focal 6.5km and audiofrog bg6
4, bullet tweeters hertz spl show st 5k neo
4, dome tweeters memphis audio srx1
4, 6x9 way speakers kicker 46cs6934
2, 15 inch dvc subs memphis audio
2, 10 inch dvc subs memphis audio
l am running a Kenwood DMX1057XR headunit
amps running 3 Audio control LC- 4 800
2 audio control LC-1 1500
all this gear is for my party bus that l hire out,
it's like the rockford fosgate 3SIXTY.3
I am surprised it does not use Auto Ta and include a Microphone like we see in Home theater or other high end head units. Is their a reason for this?
Exactly what I am looking for. However, I do have a question, i know that most who use this piece of equipment will normally be utilizing a 3-way component speaker system actively. Since I am performing my own install, I don’t care to run that much speaker wire therefore, can a system like this be used on a passive 2-3 way component system? Also, how would the x-over on this unit be used in conjunction with a mono block amp? Thank you!
First question, ABSOLUTELY!
Hi i am ivan, my problem is a noise come out from the speakers when i put my rca from DM810 to power amps even before i put on rca from the source( head unit)
I find I'm always adjusting my time alignment on my alpine deck, not my much but a little, recording issue?
Hi how are you? I want to add a dsp on my system, I have 2 sets of components, in front I have a 3 way Focal ES165KX3 and on my rear doors I have a 3 way jl audio C5-653. My amps are 2 four channel and 1 monoblock for subs. Can you recommend me a dsp?? Right now I'm running a LC6i and the Epicenter. I have OEM Unit.
i cannot understand the digital signal processor...i want to set up my car audio nice ang good sounds ..can you help me for that sir..
What would do you do if you have 4 doors for dm810. Would channel 1-2 be front highs 3-4 rear highs 5-6 front mids and 7-8 rear mids then subwoofer on 9 or 10. Everything I read or see in videos no one talks about the rear doors. Thanks if anyone can help
Were is that pin to start sofwear on DM608
Can I set the high pass filter at 80 hz and have it cut off at 14?
Does this DSP allow one to use the factory steering volume controls when using the factory head unit?
So then the answer is yes. Your steering wheel controls would function as normal. The dsp changes the signal.after the head unit
Hello Mark, I hope you are in good health and all your family, Mark, please, I need to know if it is appropriate to install the Epicenter with the MD-810 Audio control, I hope and thank you in advance for your help, thank you very much
Yes, an epicenter is a valuable add on to the DM-810 if you like what the Epicenter does
@@CarAudioFabrication Grcia Mark for your help and now with more pleasure I will follow your channel, I would like to take my car to you to do wonders of those that I see you have done but you are far from where I am, again thank you very much and congratulations and blessings
What's your view in this compared to an Audison Bit One ?
We think the DM-810 is the best! Very comparable in many ways but the integrated RTA's and some extra secret sauce makes the DM-810 very very special. On a side note did you know that these are Engineered, Designed, and Manufactured in the US? (using globally sourced components)
So when using a dsp do i set the amps like i normally would crossovers and all and then tune off the dsp too
Can a dsp be used with the audio control three.2
I still have a bunch of AudioControl product from the 90's - EQT's still brand new in the boxes. Loved my AudioControl RTA (it got stolen in a burglary along with a bunch of Orion NT amps and a couple of 3558's and Juba's). I used to love the packaging - this way up, don't deep fry or saute, someones sounds gonna sound great with this stuff... @AudioControl, do you need a NZ and Australian distributor?
Thanks you!!! We currently use Stinger Australia for Distribution.
What do you think about using something like the fx-audio bl-muse-01 and using the optical out as a source unit I think I want to use something like an android tablet as my "in dash" and I want it to sound as good as I can without breaking the bank
This thing seems pretty cool. I have a question. If you only wire or have 4 line level inputs will you be able to still use channels 6-8 on the output?
yes
Is there any issues with running 2 dm-810s in the same system?
What head unit should i get to use the digital input on the dm 810
What's the different b/t DM-810 and JL Fix 86?
If I’m running an apicenter and dsp, should i use GTO on the epicenter and GTO on dsp OR GTO epicenter and rem out to dsp remote in and THEN REM out to my 2 amps?
Use the GTO on the first thing in the signal path, then use the remote out to tell devices further along the chain to turn on.
3 way components, rear 6x9 and one sub .
Summing only needed for sub ch9 and 10?
Are you have the speakers in aktive mode ?