Turian 1: "Hey, there's an uncontacted species who knows nothing about the council or the Mass Relay activation ban trying to activate a Mass Relay. We know nothing about their capabilities, what should we do sir?" Turian 2: "shoot them lol" nice job guys
the first contact war actually did have a big impact on the rest of the galaxy. for the first time sense the krogan rebellion a race had appeared that actually compelled the Turians to begin full mobilisation of their military; that on its own got everyone's attention.
They should make a game based from the outputs of humanity from Earth to spacial expansionism, then acquiring the Protheans technology until the iniciation of the human race to the galatic council.
I think they could do it as a tie in to Andromeda where we play as Alec Ryder during the first contact war, i think it would be a less traditional liner type of game designed to be a focused story
In that case, their should be two campaigns Both for human and Turian, it would be pretty badass to play as a young Anderson or Illusive Man in the human campaign, and to play as Saren's brother or Victus in the Turian campaign.
You all people can't negate that a game or a spin-off game showing humanity leaving Earth for the first time and in the end entering in the galactic council would be outstanding, it's a really good opportunity to EA at least.
Commander Shepard "TURIAN LIVES MATTER! SAY NO TO HEARTLESS KILLERS" I highly doubt I will be alive when we encounter alien species, but given the state of human kind now, there will surely be people like that
Even humanity now with a very opened mind, I think right now we are too ignorant to deal with aliens... Fear generates xenophobia , and the consequense is disnecessary ignorance and hostile situations.
in realistic i mean the game is so detailed and have scientific explanations and have feasible concepts that makes you think that can really happen in real life.
Turian's: hey what are you doing over there trying to use a dormant relay you know that's forbidden! Human's: oh sorry we are a little new too this whole galaxy thing would you mind telling us what too do Turian's: oh no problem heh for a second i thought you were criminals anyways the citidel is that direction you can talk to the council or something, welcome too the galaxy Human's: thanks! by the way i like your cool scales and stuff kind of like the aliens in my books back home Turian's: thanks? well i guess your hair is nice and your waist is... very supportive And thus peace was atained in the galaxy
As someone who has invested 60+ hours so far and is nowhere near the end Id say its a good game. The emphasis being on "good", not outstanding, epic or otherwise. Combat and the exploration with the Nomad are probably the hight points, character interaction is marred by the sometimes creepy, sometimes aweful facial animations and weird dialog flow. There are also the ocasional glitches, especially in regards to certain side missions with key objects not spawning. Id say, wait a month or two until the technical issues have been fixed and try to buy the game on a discount.
I wish I could give you more likes! The mass series is my all time favourite sci fi experience. I got all the books, comics and games I can't get enough. Watching your videos just makes me want to play through the series again for the 12th time!! Haha keep this up did, i love your content!
Part of what made the Mass Effect games was the lore as revealed in the codices. It showed that the writers really did put a lot of effort into the background. ...And then pissed all over it with the ending to ME3. But aside from that, another draw was the fact that Humanity was actually a player; none of this misanthropic "humans are mere gnats to aliens" bullsh*t that wears on one's soul, but the inspiring notion that hey, maybe we're pretty damn badass for surviving and beginning to tame this death rock of a planet we're on, and some aliens actually respect us for not being wimps rather than the spineless bootlicks that writers who penned such "works" as /The Day The Earth Stood Still/ would want us to be. Not perfect, not overwhelming, but not some Goddamned chaff to be tossed about in the wind, either. A nice balance that made the games and their background far more interesting.
unfortunately, a lot of the codexes from the first game conflict with the second and third game. Also many plots were trashed in favour of just focusing on the reapers and the protean.
Ehh, humanity in the setting is actually made up of idiots and the timeline for the Systems Alliance and the start of human FTL expansion is fucked up, I eman 9 years. REALLY?
I like it more when it actually makes sense (unlike ME) with settings like WH40K or Grey goo, etc. I mean, in ME humans are awesome just because, there is no logic behind it. I also like it how other settings are playing with the "Human are special" trope
I feel like the Turians violated rules of engagement by opening fire on the human survey fleet. Activating dormant mass relays is dangerous because no one knows what's on the other side and the last time someone activated a dormant relay, it led to a massive war; if the Turians had gone on an open channel and explained that, any and all bloodshed probably would've been avoided. Then again, it's debatable if the military-entertainment complex has EVER paid attention to rules of engagement.
Actually, I’m canon it’s explained that the Turians thought the human ships were some type of criminal group, because of how comparably primitive they were. Also, the Turians view war as the absolute last resort to a situation… but once they start a war, they don’t stop until the enemy has been beaten into the ground so hard, they will never think of causing trouble again.
I always tell people that the first contact war would be the best place to start a mass effect show or movie. it would be more grounded and slowly introduce the alien races and galactic politics to people who arent fans of the games, and it would be a fresh piece of content for people who are very familiar with the games. its a win win but thats just my opinion lol
+Minius GC Yeah, you've basically become my last hope any last remaining Mass Effect lore. Played all the games and read all the books, but I still missed a few things that your videos taught me, especially the close relationship between the Drell/Hanar and all the Human/Batarrian conflicts. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Awesome, this channel is the only one that does Mass Effect lore, and i cant understand why, as mass effect is such a lore heavy series, yet, this guy do it greatly!
You are a seriously underrated channel!. The content is cogent and detailed, your voice is more than bearable (especially compared to over series'), and I feel a slight shot of joy when I see a new video. Thank you. Keep up the good work. Keelah se'lai.
+AlbertCamusian1913 These videos about Mass Effect are indeed awesome, but I fear only a true ME-fan could really apprechiate them, and this fandom grew a little sparse since ME3. But even though barely any of the info mentioned in the vid was really new to me, it's still great to watch and hear about it, especially since it's that well presented.
Council races: it was a incident and nothing more. Humans: ITS TOTAL WAR!!!! Council response: ok…fine, we can’t have this happening, lets contact both sides and get a cease-fire in place then a peace treaty.
Watching this made me think for some reason that it would be super cool if in mass effect andromeda you can find primitive races and help them evolve some fast some slow
If I recall from playing ME1. I think in the lore it said something about any galaxy or area in space being inhabited by a primitive, intelligent species was deemed "off limits" by the galactic council inorder to allow the species to evolve and grow organically.
You wanna play salarians? Because THAT'S how you get the rachni wars and the krogan rebellions. Because "uplifting" other species like the krogan or the yahg worked SO WELL for the salarians, didn't it?
is there any lore explaining how english became a universal language used by every species in the galaxy? or is it just something simple like a device that everyone has that translates a language into one familiar to the owner as its spoken similar to the TARDIS?
redninja 64 The first thing is that English was used because it is the world language currently (real life saying). The second thing is that is for everyone (currently) to better understand the lore, the storyline and the universe of the game... What message the author was trying to pass us. The third thing (optional) is that humans now speak a standard galatic language, OR have a super advanced real time universal translator device to understand catalogued alien languages.
Excellent video as per usual, really do appreciate the detail you put into these. I've always favored the First Contact War the most in terms of conflicts in the ME universe the most for a number of reasons. One of the main ones is what I think is a decision on the writers parts to have some elements or similarities to past conflicts in real life. For example I like to think the way Humanity took at the time and still took seriously the events in 2157 many years later is similar to how the United States was and is in regards to the War of 1812. On the opposite end, the Turians kind of brushing it off as an "incident" with little important note for the most part of it being made by them being similar to how the British thought of the War of 1812 as little more than a sideshow while they were dealing with Napoleon etc.
really like your lore videos I'm just looking to watch videos on unknown mass effect fact but that said your videos are refreshing my memory n getting me ready for the next one
I don't think it would have gotten that bad, even without the Council's intervention, Turians would have accepted surrender like in Shanxi and are not genocidal....Humans did not pose a threat on a level like the Rachni and Krogan.
@@AdmiralBison Not really. Turians follow a total war military philosophy. Once they start, they don’t stop until the enemies capacity to make war is utterly destroyed, and they are forced to accept an unconditional surrender.
Always wanted a Mass Effect game based on the first contact war. Large scale surface battles between two sentient species would be insanely cool. Maybe this was the idea for the cancelled Mass Effect FPS.
+Lu Tianyi (AlyxMS) Wouldn't work as a game without either retcon of a large part of the game being, well, not killing many things. Could work in a different context - historical simulation, time travel, or part of a longer journey for a character that does other stuff.
I treat my subscribed channels very delicately, after watching a few of your videos I found myself coming back for more, to get my Mass Effect fix. You are now the channel I watch for anything mass effect (especially Andromeda news).Keep up the great content. and I'll keep watching.
Minius GC Awesome :) I am surprised you don't have more views, you do quality videos, and ur voice is perfect for this kind of stuff.U are fairly new tho, so keep it at.
Kind of cool how a series finally depicted humans as inferior. Halo was cool, but humanity was a little too on par with the Covenant. But ME depicted them as a young species who (in the eyes of the council and their races) were seen as a sort of teenage species who still had a lot to learn.
Honestly, humans are still ridiculously OP considering their history in ME universe. They are seen as a major player on a galactic stage, despite having only discovered mass effect technology few decades ago. First Contact War should be like a modern military encountering a medieval army.
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OH MY GOD AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHH... Wait, you are serious? AHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Are you kidding me? In Halo humanity is stomped all the way to Earth, winning a fight while losing one third of a fleet (while having numerical superiority over the Covenant) wa considered a *great victory*, human soldiers (outside of gamplay) died with 1 shot from any plasma based Covenant weapon and we only feel taht huamns are OP because we are playing as a killing machine trained sice he was 6 to fight in any way posible, full of body augmentations of any kind you can think of and wearin a super advanced suit of power armor. ME on the other hand has the Alliance cracking eezo tech and expanding over many systems (and then being able to fight against a small fleet of the FUCKING TURIANS aka the *soldier* race guys of the setting) in NINE YEARS, then in less than a hundred turning into one of the most important species of the galaxy and getting a fucking council seat. yes, everyone sees the huamns as inmature but taht doesn0t stop humanity from being FUCK YEAH!
Max Power To be fair, if humans from ME actually went to war with other species, it would probably end up pretty similar to Halo. To quote one of the Codex writers: "The power vacuum at the end of Mass Effect 1 is purely at the Citadel. The Council defense fleet there gets pasted, but the overall turian, salarian, and asari fleets outnumber the humans 10:1. Despite rah-rah-Earth-First rhetoric from Udina, it's utterly impossible for the Alliance to militarily best the Council on anything more than a local and temporary scale. All they have to do is gather their fleets and steamroll us. Also, we have a dozen colonies, none with a population larger than a modern city (Terra Nova, the largest at 4.4 million, is about equal to Riyadh). The Council races each have hundreds of colonies, many old enough to have populations in the billions. We can't out-produce or out-populate them, either"
El Capitan Yes, of course it is but still the Alliance is important enought to be heard by the rest of the galactic civilizations, no matter that 2 or 3 "medium" Salarian/Turian/Asai (whatever you want to pick) colonies probably have 2 times our combined total population but yes. My problem was with Saith saying Halo was HFY ehrn in Halo humanity is literally said to be shit when compared to the rest with the only things going for us being the SPARTANs and being suicidally brave (its not like its going to make any difference) while getting stomped over and over and over. The Systems Alliance in ME on the other hand its very HFY! even if the other species could probably stomp them that would happen because they are bigger (economy, military, population, etc) and not because our tech is shit and out troops inferior, the Alliance had colonies 9 fucking years after discovering eezo thats fucking retarded. So yes, my problem was the comparisson to Halo and calling Mass Effect humanity "inferior" when they aren't (even if for now they would lose because of population and industry) and the truth is taht just the fact that something as small (in every sense) as humanity isn't a non-entity in the galactic stage is HFY!
Roker X Humanity In the Halo universe humans suffered 35-40 billion losses and were nearly wiped out if it hadn't been for the elite scism within the covenant to cause the humans to ally with elites and be able to destroy all of the covenant leadership and cause the covenant to collapse so really humanity was never really on par at least in the big picture it was some key events and the truce with the elites.
turians ships had the weapons online at the time they encounter humans, this was a sign of respect, humans did not understood that and open fire on the turians... this was how it begin the the first contact war ! other than that all info is true.
And in the end all races discovered that this entire war and disturbance was just a misunderstanding accident, that none of the two parts where intentional... Now imagine the giant facepalm and shame between humans and turians.
adrian victus was the turian who should not shoot almost got discharge got a human award good behavior and he quickly surrendered the turian and client forces
That the skirmish is considered minuscule is something I've always found rather hard to believe. While the scale of the conflict was extremely small and very brief the consequences were huge. Humans are the big thing now in citadel space with them seemingly coming out of nowhere and within an instant becoming one of the most dominant and prolific races around. Just 30 years later almost nothing happens in citadel space without the humans being involved in some way. I mean the voyage of Columbus was just one of hundreds in that decade. However he is remembered because of all that came of it.
Ah, Mass Effect. I was a regular of the MA forums since before the first game was released. I own a copy of the extras disc that was distributed before the release of the first game. One of my most prized possessions is a lithograph of Saren and Anderson, the first MA lithograph ever released to the public. Only 100 copies were ever produced, and if I'm not mistaken only 75 of those copies were made available to the public. I am number 21 of 100. I read the novels and the comics. I watched the tie in shows. I even defended MA3's ending. Andromeda, however, was the point where even I jumped ship. It pains me to this day. I love Mass Effect so much, even now, that it hurts me to see how far this series has fallen. I still hope for a revitalization of the series, but I know that it is unlikely at best.
+dhru325 Sort of. Its Alliance owned, but Turians were allowed to send their engineering expertise and in exchange got more experience and knowledge of Alliance workings.
If bioware were to make a new Mass Effect game, it would be cool to take place during the First Contact War. It could be a role-playing game. A strategy game, or an online game.
They Need to Make a Video game about the time before the First Contact War From the Finding of the Prothean Ruin on Mars to the end of the first contact war
Or the reapers my have just rocked up and harvested Humanity. I'm pretty sure in a codex somewhere it mentions the reapers go through the galaxy harvesting any advanced civilizations. I know Charon relay was encased in ice, but there is no reason to believe Humanity would have gone unnoticed at that point.
@@Spinikar Humanity didn't have mass effect tech and if I remember right were only experimenting with only the most rudimentary FTL craft that would have taken a ridiculously long time to get anywhere. They were also incredibly distant from creating anything even remotely on the level of the tech required to make something like the Geth. I feel like the only reason the Reapers took an interest in humanity is because over a period of thirty years humans went from being backwater technological savages, to basically yeeting humans across the entirety of the Attican Traverse. But if humans were relegated solely to the Sol system and discovered the relay later rather than sooner, I don't think the Reapers would have been aware of humanity beyond some nebulous prior reports by the Protheans some 50,000 years ago. I think there's good odds if humans were stuck in the Sol system and lacking even basic mass effect technological know-how, the Reapers probably would have though to themselves; Reaper 1: "Prothean reports says humans were throwing spears at each other 50,000 years ago. Are there any humans on the Citadel by now?" Reaper 2: "Nah mate." Reaper 1: "Right, they aren't ripe yet." The Reapers would have known about the Asari and Salarians as well from Prothean records, but they didn't cull them either 50,000 years ago. I feel like mass effect and advanced A.I. tech are the thresholds to whether the Reapers do or do not harvest a species.
I find it really hard to believe in short amount of time humans went from struggling to fight one species to fighting the most powerful technological race that devastated Galaxy. How many years was in between first contact to end of mass effect 3? I thought same with Star Gate, from season 1 to 10. Earth only in 10 years went from space shuttles to traveling all over galaxy. That's why I like Star Trek concept more, humans earned the right to discover warp and develop on their own. Not jumping unrealistically forward with technology.
+Guy Jones In all fairness this wasn't a struggle - it was a very even fight. The development of technology in the Mass Effect universe is badly skewed by reaper intervention. I agree though that the rapid ascent of power for the human race in the lore of Mass Effect is one of it's weaker points, but they do try to have a reason for it.
Millions of terabytes is not that much data, it’s just a thousand petabytes and that you could fit using modern storage in an average sized home; millions of exabytes, zetabytes, hell a yottabyte would be more like what future tech would probably be capable of.
Minius, want to do a video on the difficulties and possible ways of returning to the Milky Way, assuming there is no canonical timeline? While this next game seems to be strictly Andromeda, it'd be a shame to never visit places like the Citadel ever again and see how it's doing. Can you brainstorm ways of consolidating the major choices in the Milky Way so we could visit it again?
+Minius GC Oh right. Just found the video. :/ Still hope to revisit the Milky Way sometime during the Andromeda series. It'd be sure a waste to sidestep all of it on account of canonical difficulties.
Hey can someone help me out. In ME3 codex under Anderson it talks about after the battle of the citadel Anderson becomes embroiled in a Cerberus plot to abduct Kathleen Sanders. Now I know before the battle of the citadel they attempt and kidnap her several occasions but I've never heard of after the citadel battle. Anyone know the story of this?
+Ancient Warrior Cerberus chases Kaylee Sanders a lot. Mass Effect: Ascension, the second novel, takes place a few months after the battle for the citadel. I'm pretty sure that's the story the codex is referencing.
Good video, sad that Humanity's timeline is so fucked up. I mean 9 years, REALLY? And then 40 odd years for a SPOILER Council seat, thats fucking crazy
+littletubs There's still gaps on how that worked, but I'd wager it was first a big station for Asari use, then turned into diplomatic meeting point for them and Salarians, then more joined and the Asari and Salarians assumed foremost authority, then Turians were allowed in on it after performing against the Krogan, so it finally became the Council we know and hate for centuries. But since Rule of 3 works so well, and Humanity was so new, the Human Councilor was relatively kept in the dark.
If humanity didn't get that 200 year jump start the reapers wouldn't have come after them. Allowing humanity to evolve longer think about guy's pretty interesting
You mean like not to spoil guys who wanna read the books? Well, good old spoiler alert should do the trick. Just a small summary. Two more words then what´s on the back of the book or something like that. Or do you mean by guide, more like a timeline? I hope i understood what you mean, English is not native to me, sorry.
+Duelli75 There are a whole lot of videos to get to in the lore category. I think it might take me a while to get to summaries for the expanded universe.
Turian 1: "Hey, there's an uncontacted species who knows nothing about the council or the Mass Relay activation ban trying to activate a Mass Relay. We know nothing about their capabilities, what should we do sir?"
Turian 2: "shoot them lol"
nice job guys
Daniel Rogers what excellent peace keepers
To be fair, the Alliance response wasn't very smart either. If there was an all-out war, mankind stood no chance against the Turians.
For all we know; the turians assumed the ship classification was pirates or a private organization.
Dumb assholes got it back in the ass tho, and hard
Humans and Turians. Not so different. No wonder Shep and Garrus ended up being buddies.hahahha.
the first contact war actually did have a big impact on the rest of the galaxy. for the first time sense the krogan rebellion a race had appeared that actually compelled the Turians to begin full mobilisation of their military; that on its own got everyone's attention.
Mass Effect dudes looking at Charon: "That's no moon..."
"...THATS YO MOMMA"
They should make a game based on the first contact war.
They should make a game based from the outputs of humanity from Earth to spacial expansionism, then acquiring the Protheans technology until the iniciation of the human race to the galatic council.
I would love to see the mass effect game like that. I like Andromeda but Mass Effect First Contact would be really awesome.
I think they could do it as a tie in to Andromeda where we play as Alec Ryder during the first contact war, i think it would be a less traditional liner type of game designed to be a focused story
In that case, their should be two campaigns Both for human and Turian, it would be pretty badass to play as a young Anderson or Illusive Man in the human campaign, and to play as Saren's brother or Victus in the Turian campaign.
You all people can't negate that a game or a spin-off game showing humanity leaving Earth for the first time and in the end entering in the galactic council would be outstanding, it's a really good opportunity to EA at least.
I am in love with the lore in Mass Effect! Keep up the great work Minius!
+Zack Kay Already thinking about season 2.
+Minius GC Maybe you could do a season of lore based around each race. I'd love to see that!
+Zack Kay It looks like it's I'll be doing just that. I'll probably toss in some videos on Mass Effect organizations.
+Minius GC I am look forward to it!
Will that include the N7 program?
My father fought in first contact war :')
very proud to be his son
your father is a turian baby killer!
Commander Shepard "TURIAN LIVES MATTER! SAY NO TO HEARTLESS KILLERS"
I highly doubt I will be alive when we encounter alien species, but given the state of human kind now, there will surely be people like that
Even humanity now with a very opened mind, I think right now we are too ignorant to deal with aliens... Fear generates xenophobia , and the consequense is disnecessary ignorance and hostile situations.
Commander Shepard Shepard shephard
but...but......will we bang?? ;)
Mass effect is so realistic that makes you think that the turians and other aliens are real and mass relays are real and protheans are real.
Rift31 also the Reapers
in realistic i mean the game is so detailed and have scientific explanations and have feasible concepts that makes you think that can really happen in real life.
EDI also explains
that "mass effect particles"
may only exist in their universe
Mass Effect particle or Eezo also have counterparts in real life, such as the Higgs Boson.
Rift31 Except that most of the aliens are bipedal humanoids. That's pretty unlikely.
Turian's: hey what are you doing over there trying to use a dormant relay you know that's forbidden!
Human's: oh sorry we are a little new too this whole galaxy thing would you mind telling us what too do
Turian's: oh no problem heh for a second i thought you were criminals anyways the citidel is that direction you can talk to the council or something, welcome too the galaxy
Human's: thanks! by the way i like your cool scales and stuff kind of like the aliens in my books back home
Turian's: thanks? well i guess your hair is nice and your waist is... very supportive
And thus peace was atained in the galaxy
Yeah, for a peace-keeping force, the Turians certainly knew how to escalate a misunderstanding into a potential galactic war.
Lmao Garrus is so funny to romance
Jeeesus, so many typos. Thought I was having a stroke reading this.
Guns go phew phew
For Humans, it was the greatest event of their history.
But for Turians, it was Tuesday.
Your channel makes the wait for Andromeda slightly more bearable. Thanks for all you do.
+WingedSoda No problem :)
How is it?
Lala_C piece of garbage sadly
As someone who has invested 60+ hours so far and is nowhere near the end Id say its a good game. The emphasis being on "good", not outstanding, epic or otherwise. Combat and the exploration with the Nomad are probably the hight points, character interaction is marred by the sometimes creepy, sometimes aweful facial animations and weird dialog flow. There are also the ocasional glitches, especially in regards to certain side missions with key objects not spawning.
Id say, wait a month or two until the technical issues have been fixed and try to buy the game on a discount.
And sadly, it was trash.
keep it up man ! I think you found your niche. love the lore series .
I wish I could give you more likes! The mass series is my all time favourite sci fi experience. I got all the books, comics and games I can't get enough. Watching your videos just makes me want to play through the series again for the 12th time!! Haha keep this up did, i love your content!
This war is really one that deserves its own movie. Don't you think? It is quite self contained and wouldn't affect the game series :)
+hacheurdepoulet It deserves something for sure.
+Minius GC one day i'll be a great director and i'll make said movie 😄
+hacheurdepoulet Awesome!
+hacheurdepoulet It could be done since it does have tie-ins with the Reapers. Or it could be a secondary film during a trilogy.
Part of what made the Mass Effect games was the lore as revealed in the codices. It showed that the writers really did put a lot of effort into the background.
...And then pissed all over it with the ending to ME3.
But aside from that, another draw was the fact that Humanity was actually a player; none of this misanthropic "humans are mere gnats to aliens" bullsh*t that wears on one's soul, but the inspiring notion that hey, maybe we're pretty damn badass for surviving and beginning to tame this death rock of a planet we're on, and some aliens actually respect us for not being wimps rather than the spineless bootlicks that writers who penned such "works" as /The Day The Earth Stood Still/ would want us to be.
Not perfect, not overwhelming, but not some Goddamned chaff to be tossed about in the wind, either. A nice balance that made the games and their background far more interesting.
unfortunately, a lot of the codexes from the first game conflict with the second and third game. Also many plots were trashed in favour of just focusing on the reapers and the protean.
Ehh, humanity in the setting is actually made up of idiots and the timeline for the Systems Alliance and the start of human FTL expansion is fucked up, I eman 9 years. REALLY?
Actually humanity being powerful and stuff is nowadays a common trope in sci-fi
I like it more when it actually makes sense (unlike ME) with settings like WH40K or Grey goo, etc.
I mean, in ME humans are awesome just because, there is no logic behind it.
I also like it how other settings are playing with the "Human are special" trope
+Solaxe S Such as?
So I just binge watched your entire lore series. Good stuff man! Please keep this up.
+Jay “TheFriendlyCanadian” Sparrow Will do :)
Thanks for making these they are very informative and fun
Thanks!
Welcome
I feel like the Turians violated rules of engagement by opening fire on the human survey fleet. Activating dormant mass relays is dangerous because no one knows what's on the other side and the last time someone activated a dormant relay, it led to a massive war; if the Turians had gone on an open channel and explained that, any and all bloodshed probably would've been avoided. Then again, it's debatable if the military-entertainment complex has EVER paid attention to rules of engagement.
Actually, I’m canon it’s explained that the Turians thought the human ships were some type of criminal group, because of how comparably primitive they were.
Also, the Turians view war as the absolute last resort to a situation… but once they start a war, they don’t stop until the enemy has been beaten into the ground so hard, they will never think of causing trouble again.
These are some awesome videos. I'm glad I came across your channel. Great work on them.
wasnt there also a bit about how the turians wanted to make humans a tributary state, similar to the volus, before the council could intervene?
If the council never intervened then the turians would of moblised there Amada
Just binged your lore playlist!! Thanks for making it. Make more mass effect lore, they're great👏👏
I always tell people that the first contact war would be the best place to start a mass effect show or movie. it would be more grounded and slowly introduce the alien races and galactic politics to people who arent fans of the games, and it would be a fresh piece of content for people who are very familiar with the games. its a win win but thats just my opinion lol
These are so good. Thanks so much for these. I would love for you to do more of these...maybe stories that are mentioned in the games?
There's only so many of the historical conflicts that have enough on them to get a video. But I'll be doing lore for a while.
+Minius GC Yeah, you've basically become my last hope any last remaining Mass Effect lore. Played all the games and read all the books, but I still missed a few things that your videos taught me, especially the close relationship between the Drell/Hanar and all the Human/Batarrian conflicts. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Awesome, this channel is the only one that does Mass Effect lore, and i cant understand why, as mass effect is such a lore heavy series, yet, this guy do it greatly!
+gilzineto There is so much in this series too.
Amazing lore videos. So sad that you are not doing more videos, hope you return one day.
You are a seriously underrated channel!. The content is cogent and detailed, your voice is more than bearable (especially compared to over series'), and I feel a slight shot of joy when I see a new video.
Thank you.
Keep up the good work.
Keelah se'lai.
+AlbertCamusian1913 lol I love the guy who reads the codex :)
+AlbertCamusian1913 These videos about Mass Effect are indeed awesome, but I fear only a true ME-fan could really apprechiate them, and this fandom grew a little sparse since ME3.
But even though barely any of the info mentioned in the vid was really new to me, it's still great to watch and hear about it, especially since it's that well presented.
While I already know all the lore, I still very much enjoy these videos. Keep it up!
Council races: it was a incident and nothing more.
Humans: ITS TOTAL WAR!!!!
Council response: ok…fine, we can’t have this happening, lets contact both sides and get a cease-fire in place then a peace treaty.
Enjoying the Lore videos. Keep'em coming
i'd love to learn about human fleets, it's size and capabilities plus the possible logistics of making and sustaining ships
Watching this made me think for some reason that it would be super cool if in mass effect andromeda you can find primitive races and help them evolve some fast some slow
If I recall from playing ME1. I think in the lore it said something about any galaxy or area in space being inhabited by a primitive, intelligent species was deemed "off limits" by the galactic council inorder to allow the species to evolve and grow organically.
You wanna play salarians? Because THAT'S how you get the rachni wars and the krogan rebellions. Because "uplifting" other species like the krogan or the yahg worked SO WELL for the salarians, didn't it?
is there any lore explaining how english became a universal language used by every species in the galaxy? or is it just something simple like a device that everyone has that translates a language into one familiar to the owner as its spoken similar to the TARDIS?
It's buried in there but basically they're just using translator software.
redninja 64 The first thing is that English was used because it is the world language currently (real life saying).
The second thing is that is for everyone (currently) to better understand the lore, the storyline and the universe of the game... What message the author was trying to pass us.
The third thing (optional) is that humans now speak a standard galatic language, OR have a super advanced real time universal translator device to understand catalogued alien languages.
In the codex of ME is explained that everyone who is often in contact with other species uses a translator
because making believable alien languages would take too much time for little pay off.
Why is it that people ignore already covered lore to ask questions like this?
Excellent video as per usual, really do appreciate the detail you put into these. I've always favored the First Contact War the most in terms of conflicts in the ME universe the most for a number of reasons. One of the main ones is what I think is a decision on the writers parts to have some elements or similarities to past conflicts in real life. For example I like to think the way Humanity took at the time and still took seriously the events in 2157 many years later is similar to how the United States was and is in regards to the War of 1812. On the opposite end, the Turians kind of brushing it off as an "incident" with little important note for the most part of it being made by them being similar to how the British thought of the War of 1812 as little more than a sideshow while they were dealing with Napoleon etc.
Interesting. I'd never thought of it like that before.
really like your lore videos I'm just looking to watch videos on unknown mass effect fact but that said your videos are refreshing my memory n getting me ready for the next one
Awesome video as usual Minius! I might have to check out that book.
This is the lore part I've been waiting for!
Crazy to think if this was a thousand years earlier the girl and might of just sent in the krogan and humanity would've been wiped out
We'd have been absolutely decimated by them. We wouldn't have stood a chance...
Desolus and Nihilus? Are there Turians named Revan, Malak and Malgus as well?
Probably
if the council didn't intervene in the first contact war, earth would be lost. earth sent all of its forces but the turians only sent a squad.
I don't think it would have gotten that bad, even without the Council's intervention, Turians would have accepted surrender like in Shanxi and are not genocidal....Humans did not pose a threat on a level like the Rachni and Krogan.
@@AdmiralBison Not really. Turians follow a total war military philosophy. Once they start, they don’t stop until the enemies capacity to make war is utterly destroyed, and they are forced to accept an unconditional surrender.
You are awesome !!!! I love your vids man, keep up the great work.
Always wanted a Mass Effect game based on the first contact war. Large scale surface battles between two sentient species would be insanely cool. Maybe this was the idea for the cancelled Mass Effect FPS.
+Lu Tianyi (AlyxMS) Wouldn't work as a game without either retcon of a large part of the game being, well, not killing many things. Could work in a different context - historical simulation, time travel, or part of a longer journey for a character that does other stuff.
Glad I found this channel :) keep it up!
great video
I have watched all your vids... I've decided, i am subscribing
That 90th video was the one that did it huh?
I treat my subscribed channels very delicately, after watching a few of your videos I found myself coming back for more, to get my Mass Effect fix. You are now the channel I watch for anything mass effect (especially Andromeda news).Keep up the great content. and I'll keep watching.
Thanks! I'll do my best :)
I wish a game was made based on this. I think it would have been good.
+Angelo Outlaw There's still time :)
Loving this series!
I really love your channel and your lore's videos
I just realised this was ur latest lore video, waiting for more. They are excellent. Subbed as well. thx
+SKazclaw Next one is less than 24 hours away.
Minius GC
Awesome :) I am surprised you don't have more views, you do quality videos, and ur voice is perfect for this kind of stuff.U are fairly new tho, so keep it at.
+SKazclaw Thanks! I plan on it :)
Kind of cool how a series finally depicted humans as inferior. Halo was cool, but humanity was a little too on par with the Covenant. But ME depicted them as a young species who (in the eyes of the council and their races) were seen as a sort of teenage species who still had a lot to learn.
Honestly, humans are still ridiculously OP considering their history in ME universe. They are seen as a major player on a galactic stage, despite having only discovered mass effect technology few decades ago. First Contact War should be like a modern military encountering a medieval army.
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OH MY GOD AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHH... Wait, you are serious? AHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
Are you kidding me? In Halo humanity is stomped all the way to Earth, winning a fight while losing one third of a fleet (while having numerical superiority over the Covenant) wa considered a *great victory*, human soldiers (outside of gamplay) died with 1 shot from any plasma based Covenant weapon and we only feel taht huamns are OP because we are playing as a killing machine trained sice he was 6 to fight in any way posible, full of body augmentations of any kind you can think of and wearin a super advanced suit of power armor.
ME on the other hand has the Alliance cracking eezo tech and expanding over many systems (and then being able to fight against a small fleet of the FUCKING TURIANS aka the *soldier* race guys of the setting) in NINE YEARS, then in less than a hundred turning into one of the most important species of the galaxy and getting a fucking council seat.
yes, everyone sees the huamns as inmature but taht doesn0t stop humanity from being FUCK YEAH!
Max Power To be fair, if humans from ME actually went to war with other species, it would probably end up pretty similar to Halo. To quote one of the Codex writers:
"The power vacuum at the end of Mass Effect 1 is purely at the Citadel. The Council defense fleet there gets pasted, but the overall turian, salarian, and asari fleets outnumber the humans 10:1. Despite rah-rah-Earth-First rhetoric from Udina, it's utterly impossible for the Alliance to militarily best the Council on anything more than a local and temporary scale. All they have to do is gather their fleets and steamroll us. Also, we have a dozen colonies, none with a population larger than a modern city (Terra Nova, the largest at 4.4 million, is about equal to Riyadh). The Council races each have hundreds of colonies, many old enough to have populations in the billions. We can't out-produce or out-populate them, either"
El Capitan Yes, of course it is but still the Alliance is important enought to be heard by the rest of the galactic civilizations, no matter that 2 or 3 "medium" Salarian/Turian/Asai (whatever you want to pick) colonies probably have 2 times our combined total population but yes.
My problem was with Saith saying Halo was HFY ehrn in Halo humanity is literally said to be shit when compared to the rest with the only things going for us being the SPARTANs and being suicidally brave (its not like its going to make any difference) while getting stomped over and over and over.
The Systems Alliance in ME on the other hand its very HFY! even if the other species could probably stomp them that would happen because they are bigger (economy, military, population, etc) and not because our tech is shit and out troops inferior, the Alliance had colonies 9 fucking years after discovering eezo thats fucking retarded.
So yes, my problem was the comparisson to Halo and calling Mass Effect humanity "inferior" when they aren't (even if for now they would lose because of population and industry) and the truth is taht just the fact that something as small (in every sense) as humanity isn't a non-entity in the galactic stage is HFY!
Roker X Humanity In the Halo universe humans suffered 35-40 billion losses and were nearly wiped out if it hadn't been for the elite scism within the covenant to cause the humans to ally with elites and be able to destroy all of the covenant leadership and cause the covenant to collapse so really humanity was never really on par at least in the big picture it was some key events and the truce with the elites.
more, i need more
turians ships had the weapons online at the time they encounter humans, this was a sign of respect, humans did not understood that and open fire on the turians... this was how it begin the the first contact war ! other than that all info is true.
And in the end all races discovered that this entire war and disturbance was just a misunderstanding accident, that none of the two parts where intentional... Now imagine the giant facepalm and shame between humans and turians.
So like the Mimbari-Human war.
ME has awesome lore. Would love to play through these different time periods.
adrian victus was the turian who should not shoot almost got discharge got a human award good behavior and he quickly surrendered the turian and client forces
That the skirmish is considered minuscule is something I've always found rather hard to believe. While the scale of the conflict was extremely small and very brief the consequences were huge. Humans are the big thing now in citadel space with them seemingly coming out of nowhere and within an instant becoming one of the most dominant and prolific races around. Just 30 years later almost nothing happens in citadel space without the humans being involved in some way.
I mean the voyage of Columbus was just one of hundreds in that decade. However he is remembered because of all that came of it.
Awesome.....simply MAGNIFICENT!!!!
+Kaybee I've got to keep these coming so you don't unsubscribe :)
Ha!
Guys i just had the best idea Mass Effect in VR ( Virtual Reality )
meh
vr sex scenes
oh yea based on the first contact war or other conflict and ur just a regular marine hell yea
Ah, Mass Effect.
I was a regular of the MA forums since before the first game was released. I own a copy of the extras disc that was distributed before the release of the first game. One of my most prized possessions is a lithograph of Saren and Anderson, the first MA lithograph ever released to the public. Only 100 copies were ever produced, and if I'm not mistaken only 75 of those copies were made available to the public. I am number 21 of 100.
I read the novels and the comics. I watched the tie in shows. I even defended MA3's ending. Andromeda, however, was the point where even I jumped ship.
It pains me to this day. I love Mass Effect so much, even now, that it hurts me to see how far this series has fallen. I still hope for a revitalization of the series, but I know that it is unlikely at best.
You also forgot one thing : it was at that point humanity also uncovered the reapers because of Saren's brother converting Turians to Marauder Shields
So the council stopped the Turians, the strongest military power of the known universe, from completely kicking our asses
Pretty much :)
Yes
@Mar Wolfking yes and no
I wonder how the war would have ended if the Council hadn't ended it early,my guess is Alliance would have won due to attrition
Soo, the illusive man was right again... there was an attempted alien genocide on humanity.
william carson
The saddest words of tongue or pen,
Are "Illusive Man was right again."
That rhymed!!!
The one thing this video is forgetting is the fact that The First Contact War was the first ever turian defeat
The Normandy is a Human/Tiurian combo ship
+dhru325 Correct. There aren't a whole lot of human fleet shots without the Normandy.
+dhru325 Sort of. Its Alliance owned, but Turians were allowed to send their engineering expertise and in exchange got more experience and knowledge of Alliance workings.
If bioware were to make a new Mass Effect game, it would be cool to take place during the First Contact War.
It could be a role-playing game. A strategy game, or an online game.
Thought I'd come back and top my lore up :).
This should have been what andromeda isnt a prequel to mass effect...
Before they announced Andromeda, I honestly expected ME4 to be a prequel that took place in the First Contact War.
They Need to Make a Video game about the time before the First Contact War From the Finding of the Prothean Ruin on Mars to the end of the first contact war
Oh dear god, why did you have to use that Mass Relay clip from ME3.
It's unreasonably loud in the game, and that's no exception here either.
+Kastrenzo74 I like loud. That's the answer.
For the glory of humanity none of those lonely alien species could stop human progress
by the way, the turian fighter in the thumbnail is from after the first contact war.
Yep, there is zero first contact war footage though. At the very least the design is similar.
If humans discovered the relay only a few decades after they did, they would have inherited the galaxy :/
Or the reapers my have just rocked up and harvested Humanity. I'm pretty sure in a codex somewhere it mentions the reapers go through the galaxy harvesting any advanced civilizations. I know Charon relay was encased in ice, but there is no reason to believe Humanity would have gone unnoticed at that point.
@@Spinikar Humanity didn't have mass effect tech and if I remember right were only experimenting with only the most rudimentary FTL craft that would have taken a ridiculously long time to get anywhere.
They were also incredibly distant from creating anything even remotely on the level of the tech required to make something like the Geth.
I feel like the only reason the Reapers took an interest in humanity is because over a period of thirty years humans went from being backwater technological savages, to basically yeeting humans across the entirety of the Attican Traverse.
But if humans were relegated solely to the Sol system and discovered the relay later rather than sooner, I don't think the Reapers would have been aware of humanity beyond some nebulous prior reports by the Protheans some 50,000 years ago.
I think there's good odds if humans were stuck in the Sol system and lacking even basic mass effect technological know-how, the Reapers probably would have though to themselves;
Reaper 1: "Prothean reports says humans were throwing spears at each other 50,000 years ago. Are there any humans on the Citadel by now?"
Reaper 2: "Nah mate."
Reaper 1: "Right, they aren't ripe yet."
The Reapers would have known about the Asari and Salarians as well from Prothean records, but they didn't cull them either 50,000 years ago.
I feel like mass effect and advanced A.I. tech are the thresholds to whether the Reapers do or do not harvest a species.
You should do a video on the cold war like conflict between Humans and Batarians.
+Jesse Ward This is probably going to happen.
and Cerberus such a friendly name
I find it really hard to believe in short amount of time humans went from struggling to fight one species to fighting the most powerful technological race that devastated Galaxy. How many years was in between first contact to end of mass effect 3? I thought same with Star Gate, from season 1 to 10. Earth only in 10 years went from space shuttles to traveling all over galaxy. That's why I like Star Trek concept more, humans earned the right to discover warp and develop on their own. Not jumping unrealistically forward with technology.
+Guy Jones In all fairness this wasn't a struggle - it was a very even fight. The development of technology in the Mass Effect universe is badly skewed by reaper intervention.
I agree though that the rapid ascent of power for the human race in the lore of Mass Effect is one of it's weaker points, but they do try to have a reason for it.
Millions of terabytes is not that much data, it’s just a thousand petabytes and that you could fit using modern storage in an average sized home; millions of exabytes, zetabytes, hell a yottabyte would be more like what future tech would probably be capable of.
Man all these aliens where stupid bipedal lizards living on the proteans paycheck
Minius, want to do a video on the difficulties and possible ways of returning to the Milky Way, assuming there is no canonical timeline? While this next game seems to be strictly Andromeda, it'd be a shame to never visit places like the Citadel ever again and see how it's doing. Can you brainstorm ways of consolidating the major choices in the Milky Way so we could visit it again?
+Andrew Quan I touch on that a little in one of my early videos. It might be worth expanding on.
+Minius GC Oh right. Just found the video. :/
Still hope to revisit the Milky Way sometime during the Andromeda series. It'd be sure a waste to sidestep all of it on account of canonical difficulties.
If you ask me they should make this into a live action movie.
they should make a fuckin` movie of this !!!
Serens brother is named desolas I think his parents were trying to raise villains on purpose
1:20 ... and also Saren himself.
Hey can someone help me out. In ME3 codex under Anderson it talks about after the battle of the citadel Anderson becomes embroiled in a Cerberus plot to abduct Kathleen Sanders. Now I know before the battle of the citadel they attempt and kidnap her several occasions but I've never heard of after the citadel battle. Anyone know the story of this?
+Ancient Warrior Cerberus chases Kaylee Sanders a lot. Mass Effect: Ascension, the second novel, takes place a few months after the battle for the citadel. I'm pretty sure that's the story the codex is referencing.
Thx I did t know that book took place after the battle of the citadel.
prepare these humans for ascension
Sweet intro dude but your titles font needs a little work try something a little more flashy/ higher quality
Good video, sad that Humanity's timeline is so fucked up. I mean 9 years, REALLY?
And then 40 odd years for a SPOILER
Council seat, thats fucking crazy
Humanity did sacrifice themselves and delayed the destruction of galactic civilization. They better give us a say since we saved their asses
I haft to ask when is the main mass effect set ?
ME1 - 2183
ME2 - 2185
ME3 - 2186
Remember when there was a first contact war and not the angara. Good times
"Minheus Mass Effect lore wideos behst Mass Effect lore wideos."
/Thick Russian Accent
Only 26 years? Holy shit
Contact Harvest.
Awesome!
hey what about going to be the next video lore or andromda
+איציק עזיזה Next video is an Andromeda video. Then a lore video after that.
I actually know very little about First Contact War need to read the books
There's not as much out there as I'd like there to be.
I kinda want a lore on the council and how that came to be
+littletubs One of the ideas I've been playing around with is doing a season on groups an organizations. The council would fit right in.
+littletubs There's still gaps on how that worked, but I'd wager it was first a big station for Asari use, then turned into diplomatic meeting point for them and Salarians, then more joined and the Asari and Salarians assumed foremost authority, then Turians were allowed in on it after performing against the Krogan, so it finally became the Council we know and hate for centuries. But since Rule of 3 works so well, and Humanity was so new, the Human Councilor was relatively kept in the dark.
More like First Contact Misunderstanding.
I fi knew the details of the conflict before i played the games id played completly different. Turians bad guys, Council good guys.
If humanity didn't get that 200 year jump start the reapers wouldn't have come after them. Allowing humanity to evolve longer think about guy's pretty interesting
As you need to read the books to get the hole thing. Maybe it´s not a bad idea to give a small summary of what happens in the books/comics, too here?
+Duelli75 I've got a guide video planned. I'm not sure exactly how much I should give away though.
You mean like not to spoil guys who wanna read the books?
Well, good old spoiler alert should do the trick.
Just a small summary. Two more words then what´s on the back of the book or something like that.
Or do you mean by guide, more like a timeline?
I hope i understood what you mean, English is not native to me, sorry.
+Duelli75 There are a whole lot of videos to get to in the lore category. I think it might take me a while to get to summaries for the expanded universe.
No problem, you are in the captain´s chair.
We just follow. ;)
It just came to my mind as you talked about Revelation.
+Duelli75 It's a good idea and it's something I've considered. Perhaps I'll get to it someday :)
another cool video (:
+Brandon Gilbert Thanks!