Honestly, this shouldn’t even be controversial. Having healthy and open talks about religion, whether you lean towards atheism or being a believer in whatever religion, is really important. I’ve got tons of muslim friends (I’m catholic) and we talk about the differences here and there and I find their religion very interesting. Not the crazy shit in the Middle East but like Western Muslims who aren’t bat shit crazy. I appreciate their values and customs and I find it pretty cool overrall.
Same here. I am a românian christian ortodox but i really love learning about other religions and beliefs (my personal favorite is Buddhism). I think if we can have an open, honest and resonable discussion about this stuff we can really go a long way. More people should think like you sir.
That's the difference between mature adults and fanboys who need to shove their views onto you. Yes that applies to BOTH religious extremists and neckbeard atheists. Any adult should be able to discuss their beliefs, why they believe them, and have the patience to listen for a few minutes without interrupting or trying to "win" a debate.
@@cygnusprime6728 Yeah no, we don't have time to keep coddling religious toddlers, we have to eradicate religion and fix the world before we go extinct.
@@EnoYaka Funny thing is, religion has nothing to do with the government anymore. If you ask me extremist feminists, sjws, the woke culture and cancel culture is what’s ruining the western world. Not religion.
I realized recently that biblically accurate angels are cool af, screw devil may cry powers I want an anime with 200 winged 900 eyes multidimensional creatures going nuts with crazy weapons and vaporizing/devouring demons and stuff in a Venom type story
I already have something in mind when I can't sleep while in bed: Protagonist is one of the few people who can see an angel who just fell. Bad writing angel don't have powers without an halo but human soul/brain can work like one if willing. So they live toghether and start hunting demons and stuff, a bit of hunting and a bit of doom slayer with some sidekicks that help them with witchcraft but then the plot thickens and some big angels are actually corrupt and want to end the world and they are allied with demons and they already have betrayed and sealed the creator something and replaced him with a puppet and the two protagonists are the only one who can save the world because they are stronger than normal since the human is determined and friendship and other cliches, and each time they defeat a big demon or angel they absorb a new ability, you could have a lot of abilities, really big power levels and speed already town to country or moon/planet in early story arcs to universe/multiverse at the end of the series and plenty of haxes and special weapons and some good special effects and art style, with story full of mistery like it's a mixture of all religions but there is something even bigger pulling the strings and stuff. It seems pretty cool but maybe too similar to others.
I always thought it was cool how some stories seem to repeat themselves in different mythologies or religious texts. Like how the Chimera in Greek mythology was originally based on a older Turkish myth.
@@bison7082 from what I’ve seen most of these stories stem from what’s unexplainable at the time that they’re written in. Most seem to be related to the sun that I’ve seen which leads to some really interesting discussions, regardless of personal beliefs
Ye, writters back in thoose days were something else haha.Imagine some alien civilization after 100k years find remnants of data that contains comics,manga etc and they would think damn, theese fuckers had some crazy religion and mythology.
7:12 Had a friend who dreamed he had a flaming sword and slayed a dragon in battle. He said the battle was really cool and looked like heaven vs hell, I said sounds like an anime. We had never read anything religious until I started and noticed the similarities.(I summarized it)
Now imagine fighting huge nephilim giants in the Books of 1st Enoch and Jubilees that are not wild mindless giants like in Attack on Titan but fully aware and completely depraved sadistic monsters with pagan god superiority complexes about themselves. That would make a good concept for a mature action anime. Maybe for a bloodborne like world with steampunk elements to fight back. Fighting hordes of massive giants that are intelligent and completely evil to the point they are corrupting all forms of life for their own amusement and mockery with no super human strength to aid you would be a pretty bad situation to be in to say the least as what occurred in Enoch and Jubilees before the Flood had to be sent when it was either all or nothing should be quite telling. If you have anyone to blame for that blame the Watchers and people who joined their cult.
Attack on titan did do that to an extent, with the 9 titan shifters and we all saw what happened, no one stood a chance except the Ackermans and experienced soldiers like the main cast, but then eren whips out the rumbling and everyone was doomed, by the way eren let them win he could've easily killed them, so if they did make an anime like that, the smart giants would have to be the main characters cause no one else could do anything to them.
@@o6fade800 Genesis 6:1-4 KJV [1] And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, [2] That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. [3] And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. [4] There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. So from the book of Job we know that the term son's of God was referring to the angels, even from the event of the burning furnace Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego it says they saw a 4th man that appeared to be a son of God. Now in Genesis 6 it's the fallen angels that slept with the daughters of men that had children which are known as Nephilim. The book of Enoch goes into more detail about that.
Discussions like this are very interesting, since im studying philosophy and Apologetics, as im christian so talking to atheists and other religious people is always an interesting experience, the not so fun ones being the people who mock and ridicule me but that kinda comes with the job so to speak. if anyone wants to know more you can just reply here if you want.
I recommend checking these people out really smart Christians and Theists: Josh Rassmussen, InspiringPhilosophy, Invoking Theism, Christian Idealism, Richard Swinbourne, Dr David Falk, Mike Licona etc take care god bless
As a Christian, I used to get scared whenever someone would oppose biblical history, but now I force myself to talk about it to strengthen my faith. So far recently I’ve been really interested on how biblical times and scientific history could possibly connect to make a coherent timeline. Prehistoric times are the biggest hurdle since they directly contradict biblical history. My history teacher is big on prehistoric times and religion so I plan on discussing this matter with her next week.
I’m a Christian and I’ve found Jesus to be really compelling considering the religious sect of Christianity known as reformed progressive covenantalism with a renewed earth eschatology. I tell you all this just so you can understand my theological perspective because Christianity tends to differ a lot. Anyways I hear the works of nt wright specifically his series “Christian Origins and the Question of God” are good in describing Christianity and who the person of Jesus is. I’ve honestly never read his works because he’s too smart for me but I do trust the people that trust his work lol if you really do want to understand Christianity and what we’re about I’d suggest starting there otherwise you can ask me some questions as I’m a Christian who doesn’t necessarily believe in free will. If this peaks your interest we can have a discussion about these things I’m actually in your discord server the one with the capri sun lol if by some miracle you read this just lemme know if you’d like to have a discussion and if not then have a good life I guess lol
SETH. Powerscale all the Biblical Characters! There are some BEASTS in there! Samson David’s Fighting Men David Saul Goliath Etc. It also seems like the average human was a lot stronger than humans today and there are some pretty WYLD feats! 🔥🔥
Just about the multiple wives thing- It is only permissible to have up to 4 wives only if you have enough fianancial status. Also, no sexual acts are permissible that are without your spouse, so if you heard a story like that, its an innacurate hadith
There was this really interesting logic puzzle Buddhist Monks use to prove the existence of an Absolute Truth, and it goes like this: "The logical proof of the statement, "There exists an absolute Truth," is almost trivial in its simplicity. Suppose we assert the negation of the statement, that is, that there is no such thing as absolute Truth. By making that assertion, we claim that the sentence "There exists no absolute Truth" is absolutely true. The statement is self-contradictory, so its negation, "There exists an absolute Truth," is true. This proof applies only to logic. It does not tell us whether any particular statement other than itself is true. It does not prove the existence (or non-existence) of God, the Devil, Heaven, Hell, or little green people from another galaxy. Neither does it assert that we can always ascertain the Truth or falsity of any arbitrary statement."
@@tonylee1234 Wrong. It absolutely does. If the statement, "There exists no absolute truth." is a false statement that means there's absolute truth. Likewise, if the statement is true, then that means there's still absolute truth as the statement itself depends on whether it's true or not. No matter how you look at the situation, it all points to absolute truth being real.
I saw Seth talking about religion and instantly thought "Is this gonna be like 'Can the twelve apostles beat the Akatsuki, does Jesus scale over Muhammad?'." kinda thing
Anybody ever ask you to power scale Steven Universe? Ik it's a kids show, but it's got some curious feats throughout the show, especially near the end.
I’m Muslim, and one thing I really like about Christianity is Christmas. Even though I don’t celebrate it, I find the vibes of Christmas really fun and cool
This should only be controversial if you’re that insecure about your religion that you mind other people talking about it in casual conversation, in which case you should probably stop practicing since you’re clearly not very faithful in it
Satan turns into a dragon, Michael gets a flaming sword. this filler arc sounds like Bleach. sounds like Ichigo using Mugetsu against 4th evolution "Monster" Aizen.
@@kaiozab4866 same, but don't mean I wouldn't trust anyone in the world whom don't wanna learn of the Bible and of God and Jesus. I don't like taking jokes bout the Bible becuz everything in it shall stand no matter what
JOshua bar JOseph It is completely canon to Araki's work, shit is wild. Isn't part 7 mostly centered around a gay cowboy race and jaming parts of Jesus' remains into their bodies?
Merry Christmas Seth! Great stream as always. Can you judge this argument for me? I came up with it because I was tired of people trying to downplay the Narutoverse's speed because of that *ONE* statement Zetsu made during the Sasuke and Itachi fight. If possible, can you make a video on this so we can create a meta that can finally rid of this horrendous downplay? Argument: 1. Sentence Subject: Zetsu never says the Kirin is lightning speed. He says verbatim "The speed of lightning is 1/1000 of a second...its faster than sound!". No where in that entire quote does he mention the Kirin. He was talking about actual lightning. 2. Continuity and Causality: Zetsu made that statement before the Kirin was even launched. So (unless he _somehow_ has the ability to see into the future) how could he possibly be commenting the speed of an attack he hasn't even seen yet??? 3a. Context: Black Zetsu was trying to describe the battle in terms that white Zetsu could understand. Throughout the entire battle, black Zetsu kept having to dummdown even the simplest battle concepts to white Zetsu, and he _still_ wasn't getting it - he even says verbatim "I still don't get it" after black Zetsu explains the Kirin to him. 3b. On top of that, white Zetsu is weak (probably not even Chunin level) so saying "the speed of lightning" is going to be enough to convey the point to white Zetsu that this attack is meant to be fast. Conclusion: In short, because white Zetsu is weak AND a little dull. It would be much easier to just dummitdown to "lightning speed" in order to convey the point, rather than to try to describe it's actual speed, when he doesn't even know how fast it is yet. Its like how how you would dummdown answers to hard questions from a 5 year old. That doesn't somehow change reality to match what you're saying. 4. Proven False: Zetsu would just be wrong; he literally said "It can't be evaded" and then Itachi evades it. So even *IF* you discard context and the literal fact that he *CAN'T SEE INTO THE FUTURE,* then he'd just be wrong, as both sick Itachi and *fatigued* kid Kakashi evade lightning. So the statement is just wrong and invalid. Zetsu was also wrong when he thought Pain couldn't be defeated either so why are we treating him like some sort of omniscient, reliable narrator? 5. Preponderance, Validity and Weight of Evidence (Cherrypicking): There are countless other pieces of evidence that points towards light speed in Naruto, yet people will discard *ALL* of that in favor of this *ONE* out of context, and proven factually false, statement. Again, even if you ignore the context and the falsidical nature of the statement (my 4 previous points), why does this *SINGLE* passing statement - made by a significantly weaker character at the time - suddenly holds more weight than all the later information? It doesn't. It's just like how in real life, when we have conflicting scientific studies and evidence that points to two mutually exclusive conclusions, we don't just cherrypick the outliers; we go with the preponderance of scientific evidence, and discard the outliers, especially if they can be explained with conflict of interest, etc. 6. Progressions and Contradictions: The war happens *after* this statement. All this means is that Kishimoto could have just changed his mind about how fast he wanted his characters to be, or simply made them *faster* after the fact. Zetsu *supposedly* saying the Kirin is lightning speed doesn't somehow limit the rest of the series to that level. Its almost like people don't get that an author can change their mind, or simply progress a series beyond a previous point. Wow, who would have thought. Here, I've laid out 6 separate points, all of which can *individually* render this statement invalid and factually false. But all 6 of them are true together and coexist, making the effect even stronger in my opinion. Please don't get discouraged from making the video if you see others making it first. I already plan on asking as many Naruto Scalers as I can to address this topic; so you can just flash this comment on screen to show that it was a viewer recommendation/request, and *not* that you were copying video ideas. The more videos made, the more people see it, and the more we can fight back against this downplay
There was a Roman who wrote about Jesus it’s one of the first writings that mentioned “ a man named Christo in the cape of Africa that leads a powerful cult” this is a real thing I would have to find the book
I know this might be controversial, but what do you think of the arguement of the Judeo-Christian God being omnipresent and omnipresent yet people are able to hide from him and people have to write lambs blood on their door even though he already should know?
Not the first or last time God killed someone for not playing along with the symbols He told them to. Not first or last time He said somebody tried to hide themselves. Paraphrase Cain: "Where yer bro?" "I dunno and dun care." "I can smell his blood all over the ground, Cain." Write this off as apologetics if you want but hey, it is what it is.
the lambs blood was for the angel of death not for God because the angel was sent to take the first born of every household in Egypt and was used to pass them over
It could just be that God thinks on such a high level (omnisient after all) that humans can’t comprehend it. So what apears to people as a contradiction makes perfect sense for him. This is why the agrument that “logic can be used to understand everything” is wierd for me. Since how the fuck am i suposed to use logic to understand something that i can not comprehend?
People aren’t actually able to hide from Him. God knew full well where Adam and Eve were, for example, and his questioning was more to give them a chance to reveal themselves. The blood on the door thing was less of revealing the Israelites’ location so much as it was a personal sign of their faith to themselves and their neighbors.
Would suggest watching videos of inspiringphilosophy, Anthony Rogers, capturing Christianity, Christian Idealism, Trent Horn. They're great Christian apologists.
It’s good to be open minded :) if you ever want to, you should try connecting things from the Bible to things you see and notice in your life, things start to make a lot of sense :)
So we've ascended from anime to religious scaling,wow soon we'll hear that moses has the lifting strength of 649,297,646,762 megatons or something of strength since he split the ocean
Jesus walked around flexin in a bath robe, then killed everyone for a fresh start and dipped off saying I’ll be back wit some fire next time. Straight gangsta
As a Muslim who watches your videos on a regular basis it's very refreshing to hear your opinions and thoughts on Islam. Love your content brother, keep doing what you're doing 💯
As an athiest i can confirm that Orthodox christian theologians are by far the most impressive of christian philosophers. Most muslim philosophers don’t in fact make any intellectual advancements in islam itself and mostly use what was built upon by orthodox christians and jews and their understanding of the old and new testament
@@AustinDelstar No it’s not 😂 And before you bring up the “Spider-Man fallacy” there was no such thing as “historical narrative ” in Ancient Rome or ancient Israel. They had mythologies of course (gods like Jupiter, Vulcan, Mercury), but the New Testament was literally written as fact-based eye witness account of events which we have historical evidence for.
Jesus never said he was God he said was the son that prophesied in the old testament by Isaiah and people still do miracles from our lord throw Jesus Christ today
Nice to see you're openminded but idk who you were talking to about Islam lol but you got a lot to learn. You should go on to a muslim channel like EFDawah I think you guys would have a great conversation
You check out " The muslim metaphysician" or Mohammad hijab' or even hamazah's den they make some solid arguments and there's some really spicey debates over on their youtube channels
3:43 idk about the Egypt part but there is something called th Babylonian Talmud and did say something about Jesus being some type of deceiver well in they're eyes and they said he did some witch craft or some devious works which is very interesting👀👀👀 also I watched the stream Seth was talking about some high tier theistic arguments sounds like the stuff that people like *Josh Rassmussen, Invoking Theism, Christian Idealism etc tackle* im kinda proud of Seth because funny thing is I remember @ing him on Twitter talking to him about this stuff lol I guess he got the message lol I think God is working with this man even if he doesn't really ever accept religion at least he can still believe in God but ngl Seth should kinda change his behavior a bit mostly on the things he says sometimes on stream like some things he said was like legit kinda disgusting tbh and childish at times nothing wrong with childish but its just the bad kind lol
@@tonylee1234 okay but that's not a very good explanation, we are all born with an inherent knowledge of right and wrong, behavior is learned but we still have that inherent knowledge when we're born it's basically programmed into us, the difference between right and wrong is absolute truth, a dog is a dog that's an absolute truth, we need to breathe oxygen to survive that's an absolute truth, there is a right way and a wrong way to treat people that's an absolute truth, the law of gravity I can keep going all day bro
When it comes to Jesus ,there are several accounts in India(Bharat) where he went to Himalayas . He became enlightened and attained siddhis(super power) and then came back to Europe to preach.
For people who are confused about what Seth was talking about w/ different versions of text, he means when it is stated in hadiths where Allah sends down the Torah, Psalms, Injil, and later the Qur'an to reveal his message to the world. (Timestamp 1:30)
islam lore be hilarious. dudes be cutting the moon in half (with a sword, from EARTH) to prove god's existance and then revert that shit back to it's original state
Yeah that made me think of Shaman King when I heard it. The Muslim version of Joshua can casually manipulate space/time to give himself a few extra hours to win a war.
well well brother Seth you have indeed developed the min required level of logical reasoning ability to awaken as Thoth you just got to refine your mindset and build your cardio
Set my man I don't know why you have so much hatred for Jesus I will pray for you because if you want to be away from Jesus that means you'll be and help my friend and that's not a place anybody wants to be
@@AustinDelstar for you to claim something like that you have to claim your birthday and everything else doesn't exist Jesus exists even our calendar goes from ad to BC because of Christ how can you claim that doesn't exist
I think some of the Quran making more sense is just reasonable because it's a revisionist text that looked at the other Abrahamic religions and trimmed some of the fat and contradictions. Though it still contains a fuckton.
Seth needs to power scale religious texts next
Yooo no joke I fuck with this idea hard
"This is Seth the Programmer, today we're doing 'Does heaven exist?'." The Joke just came full-circle. Well done, Clyde.
But can Jesus beat Goku tho?
@@40mihirkulkarni44 yes
I was thinking of making a TH-cam channel about power availing theology but if Seth does that I’m gonna leave that to him.
Honestly, this shouldn’t even be controversial. Having healthy and open talks about religion, whether you lean towards atheism or being a believer in whatever religion, is really important. I’ve got tons of muslim friends (I’m catholic) and we talk about the differences here and there and I find their religion very interesting. Not the crazy shit in the Middle East but like Western Muslims who aren’t bat shit crazy. I appreciate their values and customs and I find it pretty cool overrall.
Same here. I am a românian christian ortodox but i really love learning about other religions and beliefs (my personal favorite is Buddhism). I think if we can have an open, honest and resonable discussion about this stuff we can really go a long way.
More people should think like you sir.
That's the difference between mature adults and fanboys who need to shove their views onto you. Yes that applies to BOTH religious extremists and neckbeard atheists. Any adult should be able to discuss their beliefs, why they believe them, and have the patience to listen for a few minutes without interrupting or trying to "win" a debate.
@@cygnusprime6728 Yeah no, we don't have time to keep coddling religious toddlers, we have to eradicate religion and fix the world before we go extinct.
i mean idk why you call the ones in the middle east crazy shit when its no crazier than catholics.
@@EnoYaka Funny thing is, religion has nothing to do with the government anymore. If you ask me extremist feminists, sjws, the woke culture and cancel culture is what’s ruining the western world. Not religion.
I realized recently that biblically accurate angels are cool af, screw devil may cry powers I want an anime with 200 winged 900 eyes multidimensional creatures going nuts with crazy weapons and vaporizing/devouring demons and stuff in a Venom type story
See now I need this anime in my life lmaoo
So you want to see the world burn and crumble to dust?
Yeah biblically accurate angels do not f around. Makes you wonder why were the demons the ones that were used to scare people XD.
@@cherechesalexdaniel811 because most demons are fallen angels )))
I already have something in mind when I can't sleep while in bed:
Protagonist is one of the few people who can see an angel who just fell. Bad writing angel don't have powers without an halo but human soul/brain can work like one if willing. So they live toghether and start hunting demons and stuff, a bit of hunting and a bit of doom slayer with some sidekicks that help them with witchcraft but then the plot thickens and some big angels are actually corrupt and want to end the world and they are allied with demons and they already have betrayed and sealed the creator something and replaced him with a puppet and the two protagonists are the only one who can save the world because they are stronger than normal since the human is determined and friendship and other cliches, and each time they defeat a big demon or angel they absorb a new ability, you could have a lot of abilities, really big power levels and speed already town to country or moon/planet in early story arcs to universe/multiverse at the end of the series and plenty of haxes and special weapons and some good special effects and art style, with story full of mistery like it's a mixture of all religions but there is something even bigger pulling the strings and stuff. It seems pretty cool but maybe too similar to others.
This is why I always found religion quite interesting, all these stories and the similarities between different ones.
I always thought it was cool how some stories seem to repeat themselves in different mythologies or religious texts. Like how the Chimera in Greek mythology was originally based on a older Turkish myth.
@@bison7082 from what I’ve seen most of these stories stem from what’s unexplainable at the time that they’re written in. Most seem to be related to the sun that I’ve seen which leads to some really interesting discussions, regardless of personal beliefs
@@louiswaze4603 It's interesting how these stories of the un-explainable tend to be so similar.
@@bison7082 agreed
Ye, writters back in thoose days were something else haha.Imagine some alien civilization after 100k years find remnants of data that contains comics,manga etc and they would think damn, theese fuckers had some crazy religion and mythology.
Dude my sides hurt after hearing him say the flaming sword chapter was shonen filler.
7:12 Had a friend who dreamed he had a flaming sword and slayed a dragon in battle. He said the battle was really cool and looked like heaven vs hell, I said sounds like an anime. We had never read anything religious until I started and noticed the similarities.(I summarized it)
@@dimitrihalfking7126 that's really interesting. So your friend had a dream where he re enacted the fight between Michael and Satan?
@@cygnusprime6728 yup, or maybe he secretly read the Bible or something and decided to lie but I doubt it
@@dimitrihalfking7126 if he isn't even a religious that would seem like a strange thing to lie about.
@@dimitrihalfking7126 or he could have heard it or a story based off it and then forgot and had a dream about it that happens a lot
It wasn't Jesus in Egypt who saw the burning bushes etc it was Moses
Yeah
Now imagine fighting huge nephilim giants in the Books of 1st Enoch and Jubilees that are not wild mindless giants like in Attack on Titan but fully aware and completely depraved sadistic monsters with pagan god superiority complexes about themselves. That would make a good concept for a mature action anime. Maybe for a bloodborne like world with steampunk elements to fight back.
Fighting hordes of massive giants that are intelligent and completely evil to the point they are corrupting all forms of life for their own amusement and mockery with no super human strength to aid you would be a pretty bad situation to be in to say the least as what occurred in Enoch and Jubilees before the Flood had to be sent when it was either all or nothing should be quite telling.
If you have anyone to blame for that blame the Watchers and people who joined their cult.
Attack on titan did do that to an extent, with the 9 titan shifters and we all saw what happened, no one stood a chance except the Ackermans and experienced soldiers like the main cast, but then eren whips out the rumbling and everyone was doomed, by the way eren let them win he could've easily killed them, so if they did make an anime like that, the smart giants would have to be the main characters cause no one else could do anything to them.
I fuck with this idea heavy, that anime would go hard
For me the most interesting thing about the book of Enoch is it's ties to Genesis ch 6:1-4 when it begins to talk about the Nephilim
Lol can you explain it to me
@@o6fade800 Genesis 6:1-4 KJV
[1] And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, [2] That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. [3] And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. [4] There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
So from the book of Job we know that the term son's of God was referring to the angels, even from the event of the burning furnace Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego it says they saw a 4th man that appeared to be a son of God. Now in Genesis 6 it's the fallen angels that slept with the daughters of men that had children which are known as Nephilim. The book of Enoch goes into more detail about that.
Jesus came back and was able to bench two plates
*Three.
275 lb
@@kryptonianstrength8461 100kgs
Jesus bench pressing the world my guy
I benched 2 plates on each side 17 times 😈
Discussions like this are very interesting, since im studying philosophy and Apologetics, as im christian so talking to atheists and other religious people is always an interesting experience, the not so fun ones being the people who mock and ridicule me but that kinda comes with the job so to speak. if anyone wants to know more you can just reply here if you want.
I recommend checking these people out really smart Christians and Theists: Josh Rassmussen, InspiringPhilosophy, Invoking Theism, Christian Idealism, Richard Swinbourne, Dr David Falk, Mike Licona etc take care god bless
@@305thief8 yeah i follow those guys, really helped me out when i first started getting into apologetics
Same. I’m trying get more into apologetics. I’m hungry for knowledge
As a Christian, I used to get scared whenever someone would oppose biblical history, but now I force myself to talk about it to strengthen my faith. So far recently I’ve been really interested on how biblical times and scientific history could possibly connect to make a coherent timeline. Prehistoric times are the biggest hurdle since they directly contradict biblical history. My history teacher is big on prehistoric times and religion so I plan on discussing this matter with her next week.
@@305thief8 Christian idealism is the best!!!!
I've never been this early but I'm suprised on how much religion seth knows, this man's got knowledge on everything debatable
facts
politics?
@@testacer5101 hell no, most political debates you win by acting like a spastic not by what you know
@@12ww37 and powerscaling is different?
@@testacer5101 yes, powerscaling debates are won with actual information and an argument with a body with the point of proving or disproving a point
I’m a Christian and I’ve found Jesus to be really compelling considering the religious sect of Christianity known as reformed progressive covenantalism with a renewed earth eschatology. I tell you all this just so you can understand my theological perspective because Christianity tends to differ a lot. Anyways I hear the works of nt wright specifically his series “Christian Origins and the Question of God” are good in describing Christianity and who the person of Jesus is. I’ve honestly never read his works because he’s too smart for me but I do trust the people that trust his work lol if you really do want to understand Christianity and what we’re about I’d suggest starting there otherwise you can ask me some questions as I’m a Christian who doesn’t necessarily believe in free will. If this peaks your interest we can have a discussion about these things I’m actually in your discord server the one with the capri sun lol if by some miracle you read this just lemme know if you’d like to have a discussion and if not then have a good life I guess lol
SETH.
Powerscale all the Biblical Characters! There are some BEASTS in there!
Samson
David’s Fighting Men
David
Saul
Goliath
Etc.
It also seems like the average human was a lot stronger than humans today and there are some pretty WYLD feats! 🔥🔥
Enoch really was built so different he didn't die, God just decided to yoink him to heaven.
😂
Your pfp bro...
@@southalphasigma-5665 wise sage pfp
Just about the multiple wives thing- It is only permissible to have up to 4 wives only if you have enough fianancial status. Also, no sexual acts are permissible that are without your spouse, so if you heard a story like that, its an innacurate hadith
Seth should power scale the bible
Jesus went through a training arc in Egypt 😂
He needs God
He's just like Mohammed bro
@@nathanielus5296 ooooh
@@nathanielus5296stfu muhammad was a better man then you
@@sageoftheleaf4565 bro u cant actually beleive that
There was this really interesting logic puzzle Buddhist Monks use to prove the existence of an Absolute Truth, and it goes like this:
"The logical proof of the statement, "There exists an absolute Truth," is almost trivial in its simplicity.
Suppose we assert the negation of the statement, that is, that there is no such thing as absolute Truth. By making that assertion, we claim that the sentence "There exists no absolute Truth" is absolutely true. The statement is self-contradictory, so its negation, "There exists an absolute Truth," is true. This proof applies only to logic.
It does not tell us whether any particular statement other than itself is true. It does not prove the existence (or non-existence) of God, the Devil, Heaven, Hell, or little green people from another galaxy. Neither does it assert that we can always ascertain the Truth or falsity of any arbitrary statement."
Y'know a smart person just says "Stop being stupid and trust your eyes."
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Odd how versatile "blind leading the blind" is.
@@tonylee1234 what is false?
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Wrong. It absolutely does. If the statement, "There exists no absolute truth." is a false statement that means there's absolute truth. Likewise, if the statement is true, then that means there's still absolute truth as the statement itself depends on whether it's true or not. No matter how you look at the situation, it all points to absolute truth being real.
I saw Seth talking about religion and instantly thought "Is this gonna be like 'Can the twelve apostles beat the Akatsuki, does Jesus scale over Muhammad?'." kinda thing
Xd that would be kinda interesting actually
Does he?
@@jforgotten2620 depends if you believe he is the son of God or not, Christians believe he is but Muslims believe he is just a prophet
@@MrAwrsomeness I'm forcefully reminded of the manga-canon vs anime-canon
@@spikegilfer1997 Muslims don’t play around with their religion
Anybody ever ask you to power scale Steven Universe? Ik it's a kids show, but it's got some curious feats throughout the show, especially near the end.
I would pay to watch this
Pink Steven is monstrously powerful.
Jesus vs Muhammad incoming
I’m Muslim, and one thing I really like about Christianity is Christmas. Even though I don’t celebrate it, I find the vibes of Christmas really fun and cool
it is nice, spending time with family and being grateful to God Christ Jesus is nice
Jesus Christ loves you my friend :" )
have a nice day 💜
The vibes of eid are even better :)
This should only be controversial if you’re that insecure about your religion that you mind other people talking about it in casual conversation, in which case you should probably stop practicing since you’re clearly not very faithful in it
20th video of me asking Seth to power scale Mythology and weirdly fitting that this is the 20th video.
Satan turns into a dragon, Michael gets a flaming sword. this filler arc sounds like Bleach. sounds like Ichigo using Mugetsu against 4th evolution "Monster" Aizen.
Its a healthy conversation about religion, it's ok to talk about it
I’m passionate about God and want everyone to know him but I don’t force it on people
@@kaiozab4866 same, but don't mean I wouldn't trust anyone in the world whom don't wanna learn of the Bible and of God and Jesus. I don't like taking jokes bout the Bible becuz everything in it shall stand no matter what
4:31 See I knew that Jesus himself was a JOJO reference
No, that was the Jesus of Mormonism, also known as the Mormon Jesus.
JOshua bar JOseph
It is completely canon to Araki's work, shit is wild. Isn't part 7 mostly centered around a gay cowboy race and jaming parts of Jesus' remains into their bodies?
God Christ Jesus the messiah loves you my friends
have a nice day today :" )
Merry Christmas Seth! Great stream as always.
Can you judge this argument for me? I came up with it because I was tired of people trying to downplay the Narutoverse's speed because of that *ONE* statement Zetsu made during the Sasuke and Itachi fight. If possible, can you make a video on this so we can create a meta that can finally rid of this horrendous downplay?
Argument:
1. Sentence Subject: Zetsu never says the Kirin is lightning speed. He says verbatim "The speed of lightning is 1/1000 of a second...its faster than sound!". No where in that entire quote does he mention the Kirin. He was talking about actual lightning.
2. Continuity and Causality: Zetsu made that statement before the Kirin was even launched. So (unless he _somehow_ has the ability to see into the future) how could he possibly be commenting the speed of an attack he hasn't even seen yet???
3a. Context: Black Zetsu was trying to describe the battle in terms that white Zetsu could understand. Throughout the entire battle, black Zetsu kept having to dummdown even the simplest battle concepts to white Zetsu, and he _still_ wasn't getting it - he even says verbatim "I still don't get it" after black Zetsu explains the Kirin to him.
3b. On top of that, white Zetsu is weak (probably not even Chunin level) so saying "the speed of lightning" is going to be enough to convey the point to white Zetsu that this attack is meant to be fast.
Conclusion: In short, because white Zetsu is weak AND a little dull. It would be much easier to just dummitdown to "lightning speed" in order to convey the point, rather than to try to describe it's actual speed, when he doesn't even know how fast it is yet. Its like how how you would dummdown answers to hard questions from a 5 year old. That doesn't somehow change reality to match what you're saying.
4. Proven False: Zetsu would just be wrong; he literally said "It can't be evaded" and then Itachi evades it. So even *IF* you discard context and the literal fact that he *CAN'T SEE INTO THE FUTURE,* then he'd just be wrong, as both sick Itachi and *fatigued* kid Kakashi evade lightning. So the statement is just wrong and invalid.
Zetsu was also wrong when he thought Pain couldn't be defeated either so why are we treating him like some sort of omniscient, reliable narrator?
5. Preponderance, Validity and Weight of Evidence (Cherrypicking): There are countless other pieces of evidence that points towards light speed in Naruto, yet people will discard *ALL* of that in favor of this *ONE* out of context, and proven factually false, statement. Again, even if you ignore the context and the falsidical nature of the statement (my 4 previous points), why does this *SINGLE* passing statement - made by a significantly weaker character at the time - suddenly holds more weight than all the later information? It doesn't. It's just like how in real life, when we have conflicting scientific studies and evidence that points to two mutually exclusive conclusions, we don't just cherrypick the outliers; we go with the preponderance of scientific evidence, and discard the outliers, especially if they can be explained with conflict of interest, etc.
6. Progressions and Contradictions: The war happens *after* this statement. All this means is that Kishimoto could have just changed his mind about how fast he wanted his characters to be, or simply made them *faster* after the fact. Zetsu *supposedly* saying the Kirin is lightning speed doesn't somehow limit the rest of the series to that level. Its almost like people don't get that an author can change their mind, or simply progress a series beyond a previous point. Wow, who would have thought.
Here, I've laid out 6 separate points, all of which can *individually* render this statement invalid and factually false. But all 6 of them are true together and coexist, making the effect even stronger in my opinion.
Please don't get discouraged from making the video if you see others making it first. I already plan on asking as many Naruto Scalers as I can to address this topic; so you can just flash this comment on screen to show that it was a viewer recommendation/request, and *not* that you were copying video ideas. The more videos made, the more people see it, and the more we can fight back against this downplay
There was a Roman who wrote about Jesus it’s one of the first writings that mentioned “ a man named Christo in the cape of Africa that leads a powerful cult” this is a real thing I would have to find the book
Tactical wrote about him
I believe that all religions have a bit of truth in them, it’s up to you to put the pieces together.
Agreed 💯
I need you to powerscale angels now.
Im down to see Seth powerscale gods. off relegious feats
Legend has it that GojoDxB is still asking Seth to do some Yu Yu Hakusho scaling.
I know this might be controversial, but what do you think of the arguement of the Judeo-Christian God being omnipresent and omnipresent yet people are able to hide from him and people have to write lambs blood on their door even though he already should know?
Not the first or last time God killed someone for not playing along with the symbols He told them to. Not first or last time He said somebody tried to hide themselves.
Paraphrase Cain:
"Where yer bro?"
"I dunno and dun care."
"I can smell his blood all over the ground, Cain."
Write this off as apologetics if you want but hey, it is what it is.
the lambs blood was for the angel of death not for God because the angel was sent to take the first born of every household in Egypt and was used to pass them over
It could just be that God thinks on such a high level (omnisient after all) that humans can’t comprehend it. So what apears to people as a contradiction makes perfect sense for him.
This is why the agrument that “logic can be used to understand everything” is wierd for me. Since how the fuck am i suposed to use logic to understand something that i can not comprehend?
People aren’t actually able to hide from Him. God knew full well where Adam and Eve were, for example, and his questioning was more to give them a chance to reveal themselves.
The blood on the door thing was less of revealing the Israelites’ location so much as it was a personal sign of their faith to themselves and their neighbors.
@@newman476 God literally says put the lambs blood in the door or your firstborn dies lol
Would suggest watching videos of inspiringphilosophy, Anthony Rogers, capturing Christianity, Christian Idealism, Trent Horn. They're great Christian apologists.
Josh Rassmussen he's a great theistic philosopher ngl there are smart Athestic philosophers too
Lol apologists just demonstrates that Christianity is fucking moronic
@@TheDragon-v7d In what way?
@@305thief8 Facts, Graham Oppy is probably my favorite atheist philosopher.
Jesus went to Egypt and met the homie Avdol, he put him on
The Book of Enoch its amazing, it has a whole part dedicated to describing angels and demons, dope as fuck.
It’s good to be open minded :) if you ever want to, you should try connecting things from the Bible to things you see and notice in your life, things start to make a lot of sense :)
So we've ascended from anime to religious scaling,wow soon we'll hear that moses has the lifting strength of 649,297,646,762 megatons or something of strength since he split the ocean
Ok…
He split the Red Sea which is no where near "The Ocean" its like a large lake
Ngl, God's feats in the Qur'an makes Him OP.
Jesus walked around flexin in a bath robe, then killed everyone for a fresh start and dipped off saying I’ll be back wit some fire next time. Straight gangsta
As a Muslim who watches your videos on a regular basis it's very refreshing to hear your opinions and thoughts on Islam. Love your content brother, keep doing what you're doing 💯
jesus solos
Seth bout to scale Goku to God
I was waiting for an upload on this channel finally!
As an athiest i can confirm that Orthodox christian theologians are by far the most impressive of christian philosophers. Most muslim philosophers don’t in fact make any intellectual advancements in islam itself and mostly use what was built upon by orthodox christians and jews and their understanding of the old and new testament
So he is definitely from Canada “She probably has some crazy gag powers eh”🤨
Haven’t clicked faster in a while
Same
The cool thing about the Bible is that it’s not “1 book,” it’s a 66 book _library._
And it's also fiction
@@AustinDelstar No it’s not 😂 And before you bring up the “Spider-Man fallacy” there was no such thing as “historical narrative ” in Ancient Rome or ancient Israel. They had mythologies of course (gods like Jupiter, Vulcan, Mercury), but the New Testament was literally written as fact-based eye witness account of events which we have historical evidence for.
It's 73 books
@@krisjones4051 can you prove god exists ?
@@krisjones4051 also you just debated a ghost lmao I didn't bring that up lmao
The book of enoch sounds like a light novel prequel😂
Another interesting idea, what if omnipotent being became suicidal and no longer wants to live? Cant it kill itself?
Honestly I was half expecting a dragon ball Super rant to be frank😭🤣
If you were to tell me you had a second Channel where you talk about various religions. I’d subscribe to that
Jesus never said he was God he said was the son that prophesied in the old testament by Isaiah and people still do miracles from our lord throw Jesus Christ today
Need a full video like this
Bro that book of enoch sounds like soMething that would happen in that show Lucifer
Bro the Chat 🤣.
Nice to see you're openminded but idk who you were talking to about Islam lol but you got a lot to learn. You should go on to a muslim channel like EFDawah I think you guys would have a great conversation
I will believe in god as soon as I get iskai'd.
You check out " The muslim metaphysician" or Mohammad hijab' or even hamazah's den they make some solid arguments and there's some really spicey debates over on their youtube channels
Scared to see the comments and what they’ll become lmao
The universe is mental and intelligent it can think and imagine
3:43 idk about the Egypt part but there is something called th Babylonian Talmud and did say something about Jesus being some type of deceiver well in they're eyes and they said he did some witch craft or some devious works which is very interesting👀👀👀 also I watched the stream Seth was talking about some high tier theistic arguments sounds like the stuff that people like *Josh Rassmussen, Invoking Theism, Christian Idealism etc tackle* im kinda proud of Seth because funny thing is I remember @ing him on Twitter talking to him about this stuff lol I guess he got the message lol I think God is working with this man even if he doesn't really ever accept religion at least he can still believe in God but ngl Seth should kinda change his behavior a bit mostly on the things he says sometimes on stream like some things he said was like legit kinda disgusting tbh and childish at times nothing wrong with childish but its just the bad kind lol
I'd love it if he did power scale Danny Phantom.
Damn Michael was given the fucking Hinokagutsuchi.
Respect all for how they view the world but there is only one absolute truth and I hope you find it bro have a great day
@@tonylee1234 I'm not here to argue but show me the evidence supporting your idea
@@tonylee1234 okay but that's not a very good explanation, we are all born with an inherent knowledge of right and wrong, behavior is learned but we still have that inherent knowledge when we're born it's basically programmed into us, the difference between right and wrong is absolute truth, a dog is a dog that's an absolute truth, we need to breathe oxygen to survive that's an absolute truth, there is a right way and a wrong way to treat people that's an absolute truth, the law of gravity I can keep going all day bro
@@tonylee1234 is that statement of yours an absolute truth?
@@tonylee1234 Then you just contradicted yourself
We are god we are a mind not a body and we imagined everything
ima need seth to drop the source for that Jesus Egyptian document, that sh would be useful in religious debates
It's not a real document lmao. Plus a christian could never defeat an atheist in a debate.
Atheist = Logic & Facts
Christian = Faith & nonsense
@@AustinDelstar yeah couldn't find any source for it.
Jesus was Moon Night before Moon Night lol
@2:45 "The map is omnilocational?" LMAO
Egypt has the strongest NN DMT rich plants.
If seth converted to islam
Mustafatheprogrammer
Can't wait to see seth powerscale Jesus
When it comes to Jesus ,there are several accounts in India(Bharat) where he went to Himalayas . He became enlightened and attained siddhis(super power) and then came back to Europe to preach.
Got a link
@@TheKingwalker22 There are several. One of the authentic source is "Autobiography of a yogi" book.
That's debunked pseudo-history
@@nathanielus5296 You can't even prove the existence of Jesus.
@@phoenixj1299 cringe, your one of the indians that think you guys invented the internet 10,000 years ago.
Y’all need to study consciousness and infinity
Who would win in a battle royal of all religious figures/prophets around the world?
Muhammed split the moon but Isshiki spites him.
For people who are confused about what Seth was talking about w/ different versions of text, he means when it is stated in hadiths where Allah sends down the Torah, Psalms, Injil, and later the Qur'an to reveal his message to the world. (Timestamp 1:30)
The holy prophet is not a pedo, I hate how people slander him so much.
Agreed
Netero vs Togoro
Ooh interesting
islam lore be hilarious. dudes be cutting the moon in half (with a sword, from EARTH) to prove god's existance and then revert that shit back to it's original state
Yeah that made me think of Shaman King when I heard it. The Muslim version of Joshua can casually manipulate space/time to give himself a few extra hours to win a war.
This is eggman tier when he pissed on it.
Damn, dude. Toneri is canon to Quran.
not a sword, he pointed his finger to it.
It wasn't a sword but he has to prove god existence I mean he didn't want people to believe in god blindly
Seth’s next video: How strong is Jesus Christ?
well well brother Seth you have indeed developed the min required level of logical reasoning ability to awaken as Thoth you just got to refine your mindset and build your cardio
Set my man I don't know why you have so much hatred for Jesus I will pray for you because if you want to be away from Jesus that means you'll be and help my friend and that's not a place anybody wants to be
Jesus doesn't exist
@@AustinDelstar for you to claim something like that you have to claim your birthday and everything else doesn't exist Jesus exists even our calendar goes from ad to BC because of Christ how can you claim that doesn't exist
Which stream is this from? This video is too short
Jesus went to Egypt and got his stand
Islam borrows many ideas from Nile valley civilizations that predate the all 3 abrahamic religions
Which ideas?
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I don’t believe in religion. I just believe people have opinions. It’s 100% interesting though. Same with most fiction.
A radioactive Boobytrap
I think some of the Quran making more sense is just reasonable because it's a revisionist text that looked at the other Abrahamic religions and trimmed some of the fat and contradictions. Though it still contains a fuckton.
Legit thought that he would talk about One Punch man 😂
After that shit take about Jiren “being interesting,” I’m not sure what to make of this.
I thought this was a one punch man discussion
2:09 you talking about the time he stole his Step-Sons Wife and then Banned Adoption after getting accused for it?
BROTHERS SETH IS JOINING US SOON
Guessing you are a muslim
Ayo Quran Powerscaling. Shameless Plug bruh I do be powerscaling The Almighty.
Fun fact on vswiki jesus christ power level is 1-C
Nahhhh “Seth Muhammad” got me crying
I live in Japan and I have gotten Biblical Manga in my mail trying to proselytize me.
Check on muslim debate on youtube it has a lot of debate of like vs christian, atheis, vegan etc.
Vegan oligarchy with anarcho primitivism and vegan-transhumanism influences vs Islamic anarcho-capitalism. That would be the debate of the ages.