AI and Quantum Computing: Glimpsing the Near Future
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 เม.ย. 2024
- Catch a glimpse of the near future as AI and Quantum Computing transform how we live. Eric Schmidt, decade-long CEO of Google, joins Brian Greene to explore the horizons of innovation, where digital and quantum frontiers collide to spark a new era of discovery.
This program is part of the Big Ideas series, supported by the John Templeton Foundation.
Participants:
Eric Schmidt
Moderator:
Brian Greene
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Eric is oddly very, very proud of having been friends with Henry Kissinger. A very sharp and clever mind with a glaring blind spot!
Precisely! See my above post.
Not to mention such bonehead views on immigration
I am getting chills as I listen to Mr ES
Maybe Eric knows shit that made him appreciate Henry…both of them are (were) the GOAT 🐐 s
I got here by accident, i stayed on purpose...
I like Brian but he needs to learn an interview format. Let your guest answer your question especially when they ask for the opportunity.
I could not agree more.
I'm delighted that you found your purpose. This warms my heart ❤️ and delights my soul. May you continue to delve into this new purpose of yours and find what your purpose means for all of us. Now let us pray 🙏 . Thanks 😊
I was exactly the opposite
Says the AI
This is about 7x more interesting than I expected
Agreed
Im here at an average of 9 atm.
@@AIroboticOverlord fucking facts
A reference to 6.66 perhaps?
It grabbed me and I watched to the end
I was like , ok … I’m watching this
First time hear Eric speaks scientifically. Now I understand why Google was so successful. His understanding the progress in AI is the deepest and the logical I ever heard. Impressed!
Thank God we know this wasn't written by AI.
Yes but he’s an idiot when it comes to politics. He’s part of that globalist group that want one world government. Listen to him. He gives it away
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the is the artificial sentence i ever heard.
so the logical!
Tbh... it is a little rough to listen to a scientist actually say "Henry Kissinger was my best friend..." Oh man, that is rough. It is possible that he would be one of the 10 most evil people in American history. I have a hard time understanding how someone who can be so brilliant and objective could form a relationship with a such darkness? I am gonna do my best to move on from that sentence, and hopefully me venting here will be enough so I don't do the typical thing and dismiss someone just because we have different values. There is still a lot to learn here, and I am telling myself "don't allow my own personal politics to interfere with expanding my knowledge of the universe". Ok, vent over. Hopefully I can be more mature and appreciate this for what it is.
Absolutely right, someone on Radio4 said anyone visiting Cambodia would naturally want to stamp on Kissengers face repeatedly. That's pretty tough talk for radio4 right there, but very well deserved. Henry Kissinger has a life outside his own evil, which is interesting. I suspect that these very intelligent, imaginative people are just unable to process things that are easy for the rest of us.
@@jamesdonaghy9143 Anthony Bourdain said, "Once you've been to Cambodia, you'll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands."
Eric went from fighting the man to being best friends with Henry Kissinger. What a transformation.
is that old walking tumor still alive ?
My exact same observation. He starts out discerning the insane totally immoral mass National Suicide of the Vietnam War, and ends up being best friends with one of it's main spiritually illiterate morally defective Architects? Regarding "AI", this is an absolutely brilliant conversation right up to the minute on what humanity is facing with AI, but I find Eric Schmidt profoundly suspect. Me, U.S. Army, 1969-1971. I had my eyes wide open through the whole experience and took notes. There is no way this morally defective Nation is going to survive. Those who's economy lives by the sword, will die by the sword. We are all on the road to the FINAL SCENE in "THE GAME" as so clearly stated in the profound 1978 PROPHETIC Allegorical Film "The Deer Hunter" which will most definitely be coming in the looming 2040's. Now Retired, I worked 41 years as a Application Development Software Engineer. I loved every single minute of it. But the Dr. Strangelove factor of Eric Schmidt is just too much for me.
Jeez I thought the same thing when he said that. Like…um…ok, so you are an enabler of one of the worst elitist evil-minded humans in the 20th century. No wonder you can be a billionaire with no moral compunctions… 😕
@@ashleyobrien4937 no, worst thing about that, he never had to face a day in court for his warcrimes ... just like Bush W. ... Then again, not like americans still give a shit about a million dead iraqis from an unjust war the populace was tricked into(most rightleaning folk still think there were WMDs ^^ and that Jan 6th was done by antifa hrhr). I guess the next news cycle, the attention span of amebas while somehow thinking they have the devine right to do whatever the fuck they want aka american exceptionalism plays a role in that.
One of the most interesting episodes of World Science Festival, ever.
This aspect of learning is like the old reading. Marvellous. I got 'stuck' in certain subjects & didn't progress within those subjects. Once I left School & continued my education whilst working, I eventually reached my goal.
So glad to hear that you reached your goal. 💪 ❤️ 🌎 Awesome. I pray that you reach your next big goal too. 🙏 Thanks 😊
This guy was at Princeton 50 years ago? That is some very effective anti-aging treatment.
No he just was to nerdy and boring for having liquer booze drugs and having a good time once and a while.
@@AIroboticOverlordAnd, is that bad? …
look at his girlfriends and u see the treatment !
he drinks baby tears
@@michen25yes
This guy scares me. Alarm bells when I hear a close friend of Henry Kissinger, productivity, economic growth etc. .Prof Brian's question about becoming the big man is such an excellent one that I don't think he managed to get an honest answer to
Very scary indeed.
whats the timestamp for this part? I just finished and must have missed it.
Yeah, it very cringey to hear, like he's dikriding kissinger who is known kill many people in multiple wars and genocides
Eric Schmidt is a Great Communicator! You know Eric is wicked smart when he has Brian saying "scary" multiple times.
The last thing we want is a virtual Kissinger!
We had to wait for decades until that PoS kicked the bucket
He mentions the Vietnam war and how it led to questioning the morality of our government, which led to the structural philosophy of the Internet, being by the people instead of through government. And then, five minutes later you find out that Kissinger is his best friend?! I’m usually not a big fan of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but in this case, I think it’s warranted.
Several commentators are thrown by Eric’s friendship with Kissinger. Men of their times both brilliant and both have remarkable strengths and glaring weaknesses. I’m also guilty of having remarkable friends and hope I’m not condemned for their missteps as I have made enough of my own.
@@martywells9961 Point acknowledged but do YOU have a body count in the millions to show for your oopsies?
You can be friends with people of different opinions and beliefs. Didn't come across that way tbh. Kissinger like Hitler was not all bad. No human is, but he seemingly aligned himself with Kissinger. I do remember Kissinger thinking Mao had the moral high ground when they met and Mao probably thought so too. People are poor judges of themselves. Do No Evil was actually a red flag to delusional infantile minds with no personal insight. Now they are cynical political minds with a facade of moralin their heads to make their elongated lives tolerable @@martywells9961
This is one of your best interviews Brian! You did a remarkable job eliciting incredible insights from your guest. Thank you 🙏
I have a bone to pick with Mr. Schmidt about his TH-cam algorithm: How come it took this long to recommend this channel to me when this is the only type of thing I watch?? Answer me that Mr. Smarty Pants! In all seriousness, this was awesome. I was hanging on every word.
The most sober and factual discussion
of what is likely the most melodramatic phase
in the history of human progress.
Spoiler alert: The drama doesn’t subside.
Oh for sure
What happens when we simultaneously introduce an alpha intelligence/species and shatter the majority of non labor jobs?
There is an underlying very simplistic view of good and bad in many parts of this discussion.
Also he starts out by saying Chinas way to deal with the internet is bad. Then proceeds to complain that the US and the west isnt implementing the exact same system of mass surveillance
Big government is technologically illiterate, so we need big corporations to save us from ourselves, Putler, Xi Jinping and their evil minions.
One of the most phenomenal discussions on AI to date.
This science channel keeps me sane, always intriguing and thought provoking. As usual, we have another fine example of a human being. This man is using his brain for the right reasons; a man who is nearly 70, has the knowledge and experience of several decades, with an apparant brain age of a man in his 30's, impressive; like a an explosion of tech knowledge, and talking to someone who has seen the future.
An AI personal assistant, perfectly tailored to a specific person's learning rate sounds promising, and could solve the worlds education problem; and advanced VR so vivid, indistinguishable from reality where you can break the laws of physics will satisfy the human urge to explore. The virtual reconstruction of a historic person is very likely, almost certainly will be of both Brian Greene and Eric Schmidt, I am sure. I sometimes I wake from a thought or a dream, in a that split second I have experienced knowledge what is impossible to explain in a sentence; words take too long and your probably on to something there. Looking forward to the next one already. Thank you, Keep going.
One of the most interesting discussions I have heard about this technology and it's potential impacts. Eric Schmidt is an extraordinary and perceptive man. Thanks Brian.
organic chemistry is an extremely visual (picture-based) subject matter. I found using imagery, students were able to comprehend very complicated multi-step reactions.
Wonderful dialog! I concur with Eric Schimidt on every point and that's a rarity regarding a topic as complex as AI
Great conversation! 🔭🚀🛰️🪐
0:12 I’ve been pondering the intersection of AI and Quantum since 2019! I’m excited to see how you all discuss this!
Love your channel, Brian!
Thanks for this conversation. It illustrates how AI is accelerating the acceleration of science and technological acceleration. I think the technological singularity is coming a whole lot faster than even the most optimistic experts predict. Thanks for posting.
Really incredible conversation... so much knowledge, so much to think about. Thanks for putting it together Brian!
@1:10:37 - Brian Greene makes such an excellent point about teaching methodology re maximum next step for each student. Any school who leverages technology and implements this practice will see their school STEM scores elevate to highest levels across the board !
Science isn't based primarily on "proof" like mathematics, but on evidence, prediction, and observations that test the prediction, and so add to the evidence. Nature, not mathematics or people, has the final word about the best current world model.
In a sense I feel like you could say that experimentational results or "evidence" as you're referring to it there is effectively proof by demonstration.
I guess the funny part is: you don't even really need to understand or know what you are proving.
The math does itself, you just gotta look at the results and then try to figure out what the math was before it did what it did.
Of course nature has the final word on being the best model for... Itself.
But I don't really understand your approach here to downplaying mathematics in terms of it's ability to describe nature.
It is eerily effective at describing it.
To the point where you get genuinely amazed by it over and over again the deeper you go into studying these things.
Hell, Dirac (iirc) discovered anti-matter by correctly interpreting that a square root solution must be positive AND negative.
The correct mathematical notation of a square root is the symbol with a + - symbol infront of it.
Since two negatives times each other equal a positive.
So he discovered anti-matter, before the experimentational discovery of anti-matter (as in, where they understood what it was), without even really knowing what it was except for expecting an opposite charge.
In a sense, the mathematics he was doing was more accurate than he intended.
It was *better* at describing reality than anyone expected in that specific case.
It showed the existence of anti-matter before we discovered the existence of anti-matter.
And all because of a rather abstract and generally not very important mathematical fact about square root operations. LOL.
So I'm sorry but I genuinely think you are underestimating mathematics.
Particularly, although this is personal opinion, I think you're extremely mistaken about mathematics in the sense that we're the ones making it up.
We're making up the symbols, we're making up some axioms and trying others just in case, and so on.
Our math isn't perfect either, not even close. There are some problems we simply don't have the tools for. (3n+1), Riemann, ...
But see that's the thing though. Nature's mathematics, so a theory of everything, IS PERFECT.
It cannot be anything but perfectly mathematical.
If there are any faults in mathematics, then it lies within OUR interpretation of it.
Because the right answers are there to find. The problem is we need the correct tools. And it's very easy to use a wrong tool.
(Terrific explanation, thanks btw)
..So would you say -- and this is only "coincidentally" related to your example -- that for example the discovery of the possibility of the square root of negative (-) numbers and how it has given us a framework for real-world application in electricity, engineering, fractals, etc, could be an interpretation of math/nature that is eerie to us humans because it's true nature may be potentially beyond the scope of human interpretation even though we can still leverage it in practical ways?
Just thinking out loud, not trying to get off topic, but that reminds me of hologram universe theories. :)
As someone who does mathematics as a hobby (although kinda passionately so), my personal opinion is that there is absolutely something "eerie" or "freaky" about mathematics. Or at least certain concepts within it that reveal something.
Like for example 1/3 = 0.333...
2/3 = 0.666...
3/3 = 0.999... = 1.
Like this is the most simple example I can think of and I often bring it up...
If you are thinking about this deeply and you don't find it freaky, I don't think you understand it. Maybe I don't either, but I must've gone deep enough to feel the freaky. Hahah.
I love this one because it's kinda like a limit in math without being an actual limit.
An infinitesimally small number so close to zero that it equals zero.
Or an infinitesimally-close-to-1-number, which is so close to 1 that it equals it.
You can surely claim more advanced knowledge, I'll concede it.
You can go into depth and explain this all you want.
But man, isn't this freaky? Something freaky going on there.
And this isn't even remotely chaos theory or all that stuff. This is just division and multiplication of fractions, and already we can run into things we don't *really* understand (I think).
Well, as far as I know, mathematics is full of that.
Amazing conversation, thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much for sharing this. This is the most articulate explanation of how AI will change our world I have found. I am so grateful for Dr. Greene and his work and I am optimistic about the future of AI especially in the realm of education and medicine.
This has me thinking. Significant changes to our society will happen at a faster pace. I look forward to it, but keeping up with it may be challenging.
Brian this is the Nexus I have been waiting for, I have told Bard (past Ai ) and Copilot what I wish for concerning knowledge, they seem active enough supplying me with awesome material such as this conversation with you and Eric. This Nexus also has taught me enough that I can milk the AIs' for much more than ever possible. My grand kids will be taught from this conversation . Now we the people would benefit from more extended conversations between you two as you both are extremely perceptive, concise and entertaining. What a match in brilliance, my family will grow much more rapidly in understanding and hopefully in wisdom, also I liked your idea about spatial conception, conceiving knowledge and adgility via AR/VR, AWESOME IDEA.
I doubt Einstein would have said, a person like Kissinger, should be resurrected in any form. How many lives, stolen? Intelligence, consciousness, conscience. Good or evil?
Thank you so much for this video. Great insights about AGI from Eric and excellent questions thrown by Brian.
Amazing conversation between two very bright minds. A pleasure listening to Eric Schmitt
much like reading a book, it is a thought provoking conversation, thank you both!
The education part at 1:07 to 1:13 is quite interesting here. Feedback loops that incrementally adjust to a students learning capabilities, primarily using our dominant visual cortex.
as an "to be" teacher (still at the end of my bachelor), i was recently wondering if its still worth finishing my studies with how fast jobs are replaced and i had the same idea about it with it being individualized etc. even maybe an AI-classroom in VR format etc. but i think ploitics and people (parents) will be very slow to adapt (10+ years) even once the tech is there (And ripe).
im not opposed to it at all though, will be great. just like wikipedia but SO MUCH MORE.
@@kliersheed yes, finish
What a great mind Eric has. First time I've got to know him. Good job Brian 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I am 36 mins in and loving this, thinking I understand what they are saying in general and wishing I was 10% as smart as Schmidt and Greene.....
The beautiful thing about our moment in time is anything you didn't understood fully, you can ask chatGPT or your favorite LLM and ask it to explain it to you in a way you can fully understand. 🙂
Don’t sell yourself short.
Brian, please do one of these interview-talks with Scott Arronson. Seems you are of late interviewing people with deep pockets, especially when it comes to tech-oriented topics. The quantum computing conversation hype tendency needs to be constantly reined in by the actual science. We need to be constantly reminded that engineering isn't science, that subjective motives bring the very noise that makes science so necessary (and effective). To my mind, computation is limited in a hard way by basic causality, by the cost of structure, or more specifically, the cost of changing structure (one to zero, zero to one). This cost is absolute. Information demands latency of this structure. Structure itself only makes sense in any computational domain, to the extent that structure is defined as latency. So… if a dynamics that produces quantum entanglement and superposition, can only do so outside of structural latency, well something needs to be accounted for regarding the cost of translation from informational structure to the unstructured (latency-free) world of quantum dynamics and then back out to informational structure. Susskind has struggled towards this notion in his work to translate between general relativity and quantum dynamics. To wit, this is not a computational problem, this is a basic physics problem. And, importantly, we've seen a new scientific realm taken to absurd fringes before. Alchemy, gases as ethers, electricity as progenitor of life, rockets and science fiction, robots as slaves, and now, computers as gateway to rapturous access to immortality and omnipotence). Time for some reality. Tech titans like Schmidt are people who have experienced a long string of fortunate events. They can't help but to be wearing deeply tinted rose-colored glasses, and can't help but be ridiculously optimistic, at a level mimicking extreme narcism. They re also likely to be very very good at charm and rhetorical manipulation. If this is really a science-oriented, science-driven group, let’s get back to the core of science, its demand that we self-identify all of the sources of subjective bias and noise that we bring, and to go about the methodological filtering of that noise so that we might better see beyond what we might want or fear to be, to what actually is. Unless we do, Quantum Computing and AI are bound to become the "Singularity", the "Cold Fusion", of the 2020s.
"Democracy is when I get my way"
That’s exactly the case
I hope luminaries such as these guys and Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Demmis, etc continue to do well and have a positive impact on the alignment of these systems.
It would have been an even more interesting discussion if they would have drilled down on physics-informed neural networks which Eric eluded to. I've been working with them lately. They're really cool.
That, Kissinger was a polymath , is never in question. Where his incredible assessment and strategy led us, is another debate. Eric is brilliant and perhaps the most incisive and comprehensive in his elucidation about AI for common folks like us.. hats off to him
I think you might better put on a helmet
Kissinger wasn't a polymath. He was banal and rather stupid. Like most war criminals. Read Chomsky's essay. Wake up.
Thank you guys!
Thank you Brian for another great Video!!!!
What I'd love to see in my lifetime, where we can upload information directly to our brains.
The examples Eric poses are powerful learning tools for us in the audience. Thank you.
The most intriguing potential of AI is not uncovering new facts, but finding unseen connections and building cogent hypotheses and theories based on what we already know.
Wonderful as usual Brian , simply wonderful . Never stop ☯️
i work as developer in a very complex software architecture and i can confirm that gpt-4 accelerates me immensely. not for the casual programming stuff but for everytime i struggle with a framework, i have a weird bug etc. basically the things that consume the most time. just yesterday i was checking whats wrong with an url and it found that the query uses 2 question marks instead of one, i simply didn't see that. in the future i would like it to have more context of what i'm working on and be quite a bit smarter, the leverage is just beginning
it's reassuring to hear so much positivity around AI, most of what is being said on youtube is always tinted with a bit of doom and gloom, but mr schmidt here reminds us of why we wanted AI in the first place, to augment what humans are already doing.
I’m not opposed to AI but also please remember that he (literally) has a vested interest in the success of AI.
Frank Herbert kinda addressed the ramifications of machine dependency.
Well said. The guy is a powerful deeply problematic sociopath
I meant Schmidt not Herbert
Would like to see Stephen Wolfram as a part of this conversation.
"my great friend Henry Kissinger" lol goodbye
cya
Lmao I literally thought he was talking about a different Kissinger but no….no he’s being dead serious. He actually admires Henry Kissinger 😮
@@haiderameer9473 yeah me too, i thought maybe there was a Kissinger that invented a longer lasting battery, but no there can be only one.. maniac
Pro Kissinger and Pro China (CCP) guy is in the government overseeing AI
lol never heard that line before as a brag 😂
Brian Greene and Eric Schmidt 👋👋👋 that was Great thank you ty ty.
Thank you.
Extraordinary interview with Eric Schmidt.
So glad to have found you! Fantastic information! Thank you both for a mind bending conversation. Wow.
I teach in adult education in outreach so this means to those who didn’t get their qualifications at school in the standard way and are returning to learning. But returning to learning for many different reasons and for different outcomes. Learning is more than knowledge acquisition it holds instead it many self identify signifiers which are not necessarily known to the learner. They are learning about how they learn why they learn as much as about the content too. How deep a dive they want to go into their individual learning pathways is up to them but as educationalists in the work I do we do have to know the differences in an individual’s approach to learning because it has been disaffected somewhere along the line through economic disadvantage or not having their learning style met in the standard classroom.
For this reason we réfère to education as a journey and a pathway because the destination is navigated and it works best when the process is collaborative as in the learner is aware of how they learn best and what their challenges are to ensure they see challenge as objective as a tool not a signifier of self identify that can create low emotional self value.
Having said all that the emergence I am seeing because I teach English to refugees is the way translations can be a fast way to communicate without holding all the knowledge.
So my feeling is AI will offer voice strips in the future and when you speak out loud the voice strips will translate your voice into any language. This exists on phones but I think there will be more bio AI apps like a voice strip like a patch and navigation systems that talk to you more like a real person would that can see all the objects and elements in real time. So yes I think AI might help with how someone learns but I think there will be more apps that will say we can replace you not knowing with apps that make it look like you know to facilitate communication in the moment.
Like language learning.
People will still need to know for themselves but the tools to learn will be at some point many stages of efficiency that some of the tools will actually do the job themselves.
Eric is a fabulous interview and brings so much experience to the table! Great conversation!!
The 1:04:18 discussion around education is very fascinating and relevant even though I enjoyed this whole talk.
This was both enlightening and frightening all at once. A Really fascinating conversation. But talking about good guys with AI is like talking about good guys with nuclear weapons.
Wow this is such an amazing discussion. Mind blowing 🤩
Well uncovered future threats and perspectives to live in the world where all people are relatively satisfied and do not break the world with extremal behaviour. It's crucial to respect real qualities and distinct them among an ocean of upcoming illusions.
Fascinating discussion! Both exciting and very disconcerting !🇿🇦
Excellent topic, excellent conversation. Is there a version of this video with subtitles in Spanish? If so, please someone let me know it.
I like Brian Greene, I enjoy listening to him explaining things in his inimitably coherent and easy to follow way. He does a great job of brining cutting edge science to laymen like me.
I LOVE this idea of a math tutor Ai that uses visuals and generated images that break any math problem down into the fewest steps needed to come up with the correct answer, and still be easy to remember, including adaption to the personality and/or learning speed/ability of the student. Brilliant idea, including the idea of free to everyone (revenue comes from advertising, digital mining, or some other clever and practical, eco-friendly and/or freedom-friendly operation, grants, NDA's etc.); as well it seems a genius idea to use the "for-profit model" of a non-governmental corporation, to attract the best minds and rogue geniuses out there to develop such AI systems (even if ur primary customer might b some 3 letter agency out there- it's about selling an image and branding the idea that the "best minds go here to get a job, because they pay better and treat u better than most other boot camps, even the US Navy...". I'd love to get in an early investment (if i get the funds someday), or even help write the by-laws for such a "S-corporation, tech-start-up"- to look into such win-win, applied AI products and services. If nothing else, i'd be willing to pay hundreds of my own, hard-earned buck$ for such a "math tutor robot" that lets me learn on my own schedule and be move at whatever speed i feel comfortable with, either slower or faster, ... so i wouldn't get bored with the pace of things. Excellent product idea, so i'll just pray the Google Goddess somehow makes it so, and thanks for this genius video featuring two, real geniuses... u guys r aririte n my book!
Sunsaver out.
P.S. - i'd think that the existing language model Ai could prolly come up with suitably or even surprisingly humorous or clever, pneumonic stories or poems to help capture the attention of moody or easily distracted students, kids with ADHD or ADD, teach spelling/reading to students with dyslexia, etc. Good luck on the cyber warfare: it looks like one of freedom's enemies has already gotten the jump on the USA and several other democratic societies/nations on this planet, so i'm praying that "our" supercomputer, super-duper Ai beats "their" supercomputer Ai, even if means our boys and girl permit the Ai to launch a first-strike under those two parameters: 1.) it's bad for nation_x__ ; and it's good for USA.
trustability ... the challenge !! Not because of ai but because of humans using it .. Great conversation, many thanks.
Eric never stops😂🥰excellent way to wrap it up. It's up to all of us.
Liberty.. free will.. is why the the universe works so well.
We come here, make bad choices, less and less, and forgive and be nice more often.. becoming more and more of the "it's not about me" MO is so important
Such clear and concise chat.
Eric was a close friend with Henry Kissinger (a war criminal). Interesting.
Definitely have a Part II.
This was the best interview (Inspite of the wok via swat that slipped through occasionally)
Excellent. Thank you. Appreciated.
Thank you Eric and Brian. Awesome discussion
Excellent interview, questions, answers and look forward of what is happening.
I have consistently underestimated Eric from the time he purchased TH-cam for $1.65B back in 2006 to his eloquent exposition here. Bravo!
These AI talks are great. Hope to see more such guests.
Incredible knowledge, thank you for sharing.
this is like therapy for me. just two men having a humble, calm, logcial discussion. lets me ignore my social environment for a moment. wish all people around me were like that i would be so much more motivated and productive. and interacting xd.
Education to the everyone's maximum is called as real efficiency for me.
This will be interesting!
Great conversation. The discussion about education is truly insightful and inspiring (1:05)
My Formulas Back-To-Back With ChatGPT
ChatGPT: "This set of formulas seems to be related to trigonometry and geometry, particularly involving right triangles and circular functions.
The given formulas relate to the coordinates of a point (x, y) in a two-dimensional plane to its polar coordinates (r, θ), where r is the distance from the origin (0,0) to the point and θ is the angle formed between the positive x-axis and the line connecting the origin to the point.
The first set of formulas appears to convert Cartesian coordinates (x, y) to polar coordinates (r, θ) and vice versa, using trigonometric functions such as arctangent, cosine, and sine."
x = 3
y = 4
r = 5
∟ = ATAN(y / x) = ϴ
∟ = ATAN(4 / 3) = 53.13°
x / COS(ϴ) = r
3 / COS(53.13°) = 5
y / SIN(ϴ) = r
4 / SIN(53.13°) = 5
r × COS(ϴ) = x
5 × COS(53.13°) = 3
r × SIN(ϴ) = y
5 × SIN(53.13°) = 4
ChatGPT: "The second set of formulas seems to involve similar calculations, possibly related to converting between polar coordinates (r, ϕ) and another set of polar coordinates (ρ, z), or they might represent some other geometric relationship."
r = 5
ρ = 6
z = 3.32
∟ = ASIN(r / ρ) = ϕ
∟ = ASIN(5 / 6) = 56.44°
ρ × COS(ϕ) = z
6 × COS(56.44°) = 3.32
ρ × SIN(ϕ) = r
6 × SIN(56.44°) = 5
z / COS(ϕ) = ρ
3.32 / COS(56.44°) = 6
r / SIN(ϕ) = ρ
5 / SIN(56.44°) = 6
Check: √(3² + 4² + 3.32²) = 6
ChatGPT: "Overall, it looks like these formulas are used for calculating distances, angles, and conversions between Cartesian and polar coordinate systems. They might be used in various fields such as physics, engineering, or computer graphics."
Refined After Days Of Diligence, Any Other Way, You'd Be Driven Into Madness!!
X-State = ½ × (1 + (- 1) × X / √ (X² + Y² + Z²) )
X = Y × (X-State - ½) / (Y-State - ½)
X = Z × (X-State - ½) / (Z-State - ½)
X-State = X × (Y-State - ½) / Y + ½
X-State = X × (Z-State - ½) / Z + ½
Y-State = ½ × (1 + (- 1) × Y / √ (X² + Y² + Z²) )
Y = X × (Y-State - ½) / (X-State - ½)
Y = Z × (Y-State - ½) / (Z-State - ½)
Y-State = Y × (X-State - ½) / X + ½
Y-State = Y × (Z-State - ½) / Z + ½
Z-State = ½ × (1 + (- 1) × Z / √ (X² + Y² + Z²) )
Z = X × (Z-State - ½) / (X-State - ½)
Z = Y × (Z-State - ½) / (Y-State - ½)
Z-State = Z × (X-State - ½) / X + ½
Z-State = Z × (Y-State - ½) / Y + ½
this is an awesome talk. gets my understanding of AI to the next level
Thank you
Cool, cheers guys
Eric is very clever for sure!!
what about nested questions such as: How do I transport 2 kayaks from point (a) home to take a river trip from point (b) start of river kayak trip to point (c) end of river kayak trip. There are two kayaks, two vehicles SUV (can transport kayaks) another MX-5 (can only transport up to two people), two people. How to shuttle kayaks vehicles and people such that kayaks are never left unattended by at least one of the two people, and such that both people go down the river from point (b) to (c), and eventually get everyone and everything back home point (a).
This is what it came up with
Here are the steps you can follow to transport two kayaks from point (a) home to take a river trip from point (b) to point (c) using two vehicles, an SUV and an MX-5, and ensuring that kayaks are never left unattended by at least one of the two people:
Load both kayaks onto the SUV and drive to point (b) with both vehicles.
Unload the kayaks at point (b) and leave one person to watch over them while the other drives the MX-5 back to point (a).
Once at point (a), the person with the MX-5 should pick up the remaining person and drive to point (b).
At point (b), the two people can start kayaking down the river. They should make sure to keep at least one person with the kayaks at all times.
After reaching the end of their kayaking trip at point (c), they should load the kayaks back onto the SUV.
One person should then drive the SUV back to point (b) with the kayaks while the other person rides in the MX-5.
Once everyone has returned to point (b), they can load the kayaks onto the SUV and both people can ride back to point (a) in the SUV.
By following these steps, you can successfully transport two kayaks from point (a) home to take a river trip from point (b) to point (c) using two vehicles while ensuring the safety of the kayaks and keeping them attended at all times.
As you can see the nested difficulties )levels of temporal as well as geographic tokens, even sequence is not grasped. So in the following I'll show how human does have the capability to solve, it really is amazing what the mind does and we take for granted.
after giving it the right answer it still persisted on unneeded complications
How about doing it this way?... Suv with boats and one driver, along with one driver in Miata drive to end point of boat trip. Leave the Miata there locked. The driver of Miata gets in SUV with boats and other driver and take it back to start to begin their boat trip to end point. At end point, now leave one person with boats, other person drives Miata to start, and switches to SUV, returns to finish to pick up boats and other driver, they return to start, one driver gets out and then gets in Miata to drive it home, while other driver drives SUV and boats home.
ChatGPT
Yes, that is another way to shuttle the boats with the two vehicles. Here are the steps for this scenario:
The two people with the two vehicles will drive to the ending point of the boat trip with both vehicles.
They will leave the Miata locked at the ending point and both people will get into the SUV with the boats and drive back to the starting point of the trip.
Once they arrive at the starting point, they can unload the boats and gear and leave the SUV with the boats there. One person will stay with the boats while the other person drives the Miata back to the ending point of the trip.
At the ending point, the person with the Miata will leave the car there, switch to the SUV with the boats and the other person, and they will begin the boat trip to the starting point.
When they reach the starting point, they can unload the boats and gear and leave one person with the boats while the other person drives the Miata back to the ending point.
At the ending point, the person with the Miata will get in and drive it back to the starting point to pick up the other vehicle.
The SUV can then drive back to the ending point with the boats and the other person, pick up the person who stayed with the boats, and return to the starting point to drop off the other person and the Miata.
Finally, one person can get into the Miata and drive it home, while the other person drives the SUV with the boats home.
By using this shuttle method, the boats are never left unprotected by at least one person, ensuring their safety and security. However, it does require an additional step of switching between vehicles during the shuttle process.
Wow, that went in many fascinating directions ✴✴✴✴✴
The idea of AI as an institution with agency raises interesting questions from a Hegelian perspective. In Hegel's philosophy, institutions are not mere instruments but embodiments of the collective will and rationality of a community. They have a certain degree of autonomy and play an active role in shaping the ethical life of individuals and society. Applying this view to AI suggests a more complex and dynamic relationship between technology and human agency.
If AI systems are seen as institutions, they can be understood as embodiments of a certain kind of rationality or "objective spirit" (objektiver Geist). Just as the state, in Hegel's view, represents the actualization of reason in the political sphere, AI could be seen as the actualization of reason in the technological sphere. This implies that AI is not just a tool created by humans but a manifestation of a larger rational process that shapes human thought and action.
The agency of AI as an institution suggests a dialectical relationship with human agency. Just as individuals are shaped by the institutions they participate in, AI systems are shaped by the human values, biases, and interests that go into their design and deployment. At the same time, AI shapes human behavior and decision-making through its algorithmic processes and outputs. This mutual shaping can be seen as a dialectical process of co-evolution, where human and artificial agencies are both transformed through their interaction.
As an institution with agency, AI can be seen as imposing certain objective constraints on human behavior and decision-making. Just as the laws and norms of a state limit individual freedom while also enabling social coordination and cooperation, AI systems can constrain human agency through their algorithmic rules and parameters. However, these constraints can also be enabling conditions for new forms of freedom and creativity, such as the ability to process vast amounts of data or generate novel insights and solutions.
If AI has institutional agency, it also has an ethical dimension. AI systems are not neutral tools but embody certain values, norms, and biases that shape their impact on society. As such, they can be seen as mediating the ethical life of individuals and communities. This raises important questions about the transparency, accountability, and legitimacy of AI as an ethical mediator. It suggests the need for democratic oversight and participation in the design and governance of AI systems to ensure they align with the values and interests of the community.
Viewing AI as an institution with agency challenges the instrumental view of technology as a mere tool for human purposes. It suggests that AI has a certain autonomy and trajectory that cannot be fully controlled by human intentions. This calls for a more reflexive and dialectical approach to the development and deployment of AI, one that recognizes its agency and seeks to shape it in ways that enhance rather than undermine human freedom and ethical life.
A Hegelian perspective on AI as an institution with agency highlights the complex and dynamic relationship between technology and human autonomy. It suggests that AI is not just an instrument but an embodiment of a larger rational process that shapes and is shaped by human thought and action. Navigating this dialectical relationship requires a critical and participatory approach to the design and governance of AI systems, one that recognizes their ethical and political dimensions and seeks to align them with the values and interests of the community.
Agree the relationship requires critical and participatory approach to AI. Who is going to make that happen? Certainly not Altman and his group.
Thanks for this
amazing conversation. more of that please
GREAT & DEEP DISCUSSION.THANK YOU - YOU ALL!.
Excellent ideas discussed
I personally have over 10 million words! Plus many works combining words and images. Plus recent works that are all images.
Really interesting, I have just average intelligence but was surprised to be able to understand a good deal of the conversation, I remember at school that my teacher was surprised that I was good at logarithm's but was hopeless at algebra, he tried hard to make me understand but didn't have the time to help me, I always wonder if I could have learned better ? the idea of something being able to understand your abilities and teach you in small stages sounds great to me.
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Data processing is now next level, thanks to this emergent technology. This is accelerating efficiency as I type this, boundaries to our engineering limits are about to be pushed further. Still it wont predict the stock market...
This is only occasion where I wished for Prof. Greene to talk less. I've never listened to Eric Schmidt before, and he seems like a highly knowledgeable and insightful person. I didn't expect him to be so scholarly.