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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2024
- #dreamcatcher #드림캐쳐 #JUSTICE
Hi! For now I'll remain anonymous, but you can call me M! I'm a Portuguese Kpop stan and a huge fan of Dreamcatcher!
Today I bring you a very special video. 'VirtuouS', Dreamcatcher's 10th mini album, was released earlier today (in Portugal’s time) and with it the MV for JUSTICE, the title track. While watching the MV I couldn't help but notice scenes that were very similar to scenes from old MVs so I decided to do this video and see if other InSomnias thought of the same or other moments!
Did I forget something? Let me know in the comments!
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Part 2's out now! You can check it out by clicking this link (th-cam.com/video/OknUBp9jDbI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JL7SGFviHGQJMDGS) or going to the videos on my TH-cam page! Hope you enjoy!
When you're too Iconic you just refrence yourself
Queen behavior right there
Yess
LITERAL ICONS
Handong's scenes remind me of "too many angels dying now".
And the scenes with neons in the back remind me of Endless Night.
Thanks for mentioning Endless Night! Their Japanese songs are sometimes forgotten which is really sad as they are as good as the Korean ones!
I'm telling y'all right now, angel-winged Handong with glowing orbs will be a future reference someday because she looks absolutely incredible like that 🙏
There are no arguments against facts. Handong's gorgeous
i can think of a few: the set that they’re dancing at kinda reminds me of the “deja vu” set, it also reminds me of “you and i”, sua’s scenes with the dancers and the flickering reminds me of “chase me”, the flame effect right before dami’s part (1:33) and at the end reminds me of “good night”, handong’s scene reminds me of “odd eye” a bit, but it also reminds me of the “celestial dreams” film, the scenes with the lights (for example: 1:38) remind me of “endless night”, this particular scene (2:41) reminds me of “piri”
Good observations!
Another person in the comments mentioned Celestial Dreams and it really is the most similar!
The last one you mentioned of Yoohyeon glowing would perhaps also match JiU glowing while lying on the table in Deja Vu
Yall fogot the crown also appeared at WHAT mv
Also VISION so literally all series have the crown and at the end they destroyed it cause its a curse
How come I never noticed there was a crown in What? Thank you for opening my eyes!
@@mt123ptYES bae!! If you're wondering, slow down the WHAT mv for a better look at the 0:22-23 second mark and you'll see it half buried in the sand.
@@rida-18 Yes, I saw it and it's burning towards the end at 2:59!!
@@mt123pt ykw girl. This made me think. Sand kinda prevents things from catching fire that easily that's why they often put sand on fires to stop them. It's even more effective than water.
So for as long as the crown was half buried in the sand, it did not catch fire. As soon as someone pulled it out (maybe triggering a curse or smth) it caught fire because the sand or some barrier was no longer there to contain the curse.
There's also a sense of eternity associated with a burning flame (especially seen in rituals and some religions like zoroastrianism, christianity) so like, an eternal flame; an eternal curse. At the end of the mv the arrow hits the crown, shattering it. Thus also killing the fire, as if ending the curse.
I am reaching far off here and just trying to make it make sense. I didn't expect to go this deep😂😂
@@rida-18 Big brain moment.
It's probably all just a coincidence, but if it's true it's amazing that the crown's story started so many years ago
the barcode on Dami's face also reminds me a lot of Vision/Maison. Also, I think the 8th person at the end might be JiU from Deja Vu.
Yeah, maybe more Vision for being on the cheek like the black paint.
Why JiU from Deja Vu? I would love to hear more about your theory! My first thought is that it was the last person sacrificed at the end of OOTD
I would even add an Odd Eye refence during Dami's rap
@@mt123ptI thought it was human form Celly 😭😭
@@Amy-sf9vr Because of the close up? A K-InSomnia would also add Odd Eye in the rap part!
@@miiticguest686 I don't think that's the case, but it would be really cute
As you guys remembered many references besides the ones I did, I'm thinking about making a part 2 of this video. Should I? 🤔
Yes pls
yes! i noticed a few parts you may have missed!
this video giveing me inspiration. i'm gonna make some edit with this kind of idea. can i use it?i'm mention you
@@niasetian23 Sure. Go ahead and then send me the link so I can go support you :)
about the hands covering Jiu's eyes, I think the same thing exist In You and I, except the hands are like a dark shadow.
The scenes with the flickering lights remind me of Sahara selfmade mv 😄
Haha nice! Nobody thought of that
Now This the true DC lore lol
@@neverever1704 I know right 😂
Do you know how absolutely legend you must be to referencing your past work because damn, that's some achievement.
And how brilliant the whole DC team is behind the scenes
Maybe Handong goes with Maison either way the wings, it’s a reach since they didn’t have wings in maison but they were godlike or angelic
Not a bad connection, but some people here in the comments mentioned the 2022 Seasons Greetings 'Celestial Dreams' and in the teaser (part2 ver.) Handong is dressed in white holding a sphere, probably the closest thing to what we see in Justice
0:14 covering their eyes -> Deja Vu & Odd Eye & BOCA & Scream
0:19 formation reminds me of Scream, Odd Eye, BOCA, & OOTD
0:30 reminds me of Breaking Out, Bon voyage & Maison
0:40 Also Scream
0:43 Black or White & Scream formation
0:50 those globes remind me of their Full Moon album cover
1:43 this warm colour scheme reminds me of Dami’s rap section in Rose Blue (when she was sitting with the gold)
1:49 The background reminds me of Endless Night & What
1:50 Dami covered her mouth -> BOCA & Piri
1:57 that looks like spiderwebs on her hands -> You And I
2:07 Chase Me (when they were sitting down in a circle and doing that ritual)
You even put the timestamps, what a champ!
Wowww
The blurry light during Dami’s rap reminds me of her bridge in Odd Eye.
I love this video (and song!!!) I swear I notice something different in each viewing!
I know, right? That's why now, with the help of other InSomnia, I've discovered many more references than what I originally saw when I watched the MV the first few times
I fell like their almost every moves from their old choreographys. Im going crazy, almost every moves , every frames of this mv from old songs . I feel like watching their journey. Journey for justice i guess :). They nailed it one more time. They re on another level. Ty for video and in time ppl will find more references i think.
Yes, there's a lot more things than I put in the video. Working with other InSomnia to discover more references is being a lot of fun. Thank you for watching!
I love that cause at the end of OOTD it said "Would you like to join the journey?", and this is the part 2 of OOTD
@@dien3745 🤯
Yoohyeon biting the apple also reminds me of the chase me choreo when sua mimes biting an apple (about the 1:40 mark in the chase me mv)
And about the 0:55 mark when gahyeon grabs her neck reminds me of her first part in boca!
Oh nice! You're the first person I've seen who remembered that dance move of SuA!
also the main dance set reminded me a bit of the main set in you and i with the paintings and gothic style. but with reddish orange walls instead of green
Yes, many people pointed that out!
The red threads behind Siyeon at the start of the first chorus as a reference to Breaking Out?
I put it in the following scenes, but I forgot about the first one LOL
All Dreamcatcher 's mvs are so cool. Im Proud Insomnia. Handong is my bias. Stan Dreamcatcher for amazing music.
We're two! Very proud of how far they've come
다미의 클로즈업은 오드아이의 다미,
건물안의 안무 앵글은 you& i 그것과 흡사하다.
좋은 관찰입니다! (I used google translate so I don't know if it's right, but what I meant is "Good observations!")
What I noticed is that they're breaking apart the scenes they're referencing, which is in theme to Justice and breaking the curse. Yoohyeon biting an apple is a reference to SuA in BEcause but in the next scene Dami stabbed the apple, essentially breaking the apple's curse (in BEcause the apple represent SuA's unwitting downfall to her dark obsessive side). We see JiU tied up, referencing SuA in RoSE Blue and her own nightmare in the Nightmare era, but in the next scene JiU managed to escape, breaking out of the rope (in RoSE Blue the reason she was tied up was her succumbing to the crystal, JiU breaking out of her binds is a metaphor for her freeing the other members from the crystal's curse).
Also, I noticed some scenes reference the opposite feeling of what they're originally reference. In Handong's scene, I feel like she referenced herself in Deja Vu, but instead of her being lonely and paranoid of the many knights watching her we instead have her surrounded by lights and she herself holding onto a globe of light, representing warmth and hopefulness. JiU closing her own eyes directly references a lot of Dreamcatcher, but most notably herself in Odd Eye. The difference is that while in Odd Eye (this can be taken in two ways) her act of blindfolding can mean she rid herself of seeing the ugly truth of no Utopia or her inability to see the truth, the fact that there is no Utopia. But in here, she is sure of herself, willingly blindfolding herself, undoubtedly becoming Lady Justice herself (the reason why Lady Justice often portrayed as blindfolded is because Justice is impartial, unbiased to everyone). This one seems a bit reach but in OOTD, no one ever get the crown, not even the girls themselves as shown in the Crown ARG there is an audio recording of them fighting for the crown. But here Siyeon is the one that got it, but instead of keeping it for herself she throws it away to Gahyeon, who holds a bow, and shoot it, destroying the crown. Gahyeon obviously referenced Yoohyeon in Boca, but she is focused when drawing the bow, she has intent to use it unlike we see with Yoohyeon which felt like unwilling and pained as she shoots her bow in Boca.
There are also color filters throughout the whole MV that reminds me to other MVs. The warm, red-coppery light reminds me a lot of Deja Vu, Maison, and Bon Voyage. The cold blueish and purple light reminds me of Scream, RoSE Blue, BEcause, and Vision. The absence of light (aka flickering lights) in some of the scenes reminds me of Chase Me, Good Night and You and I. The neon, futuristic lights reminds me of What, Endless Night, Odd Eye, and OOTD. The spotlights and full white backdrop reminds me of Piri and Breaking Out. Shame that there isn't any natural outdoor light (Fly High) or pink toned light (Boca), then again pink light is rarely seen even in fictional settings, pink is a very themed light.
Please take this with a grain of salt, I'm just rambling at this point lmao, this MV is just so good for my theoritical brain
Wow 👏 If you say things so on point when you're just rambling, please ramble more! haha
Seriously, I hadn't thought that deeply about the apple being stabbed or made the connection with JiU being tied up and SuA's fear. Excellent observations!
Great breakdown!! I also really agree about how this MV deconstructs and gives a new ending to all the scenes from the previous MV's they reference, like this MV is about the members overcoming the evils present in the previous storylines.
The flaming arrows remind me more of the flaming flowers from Odd Eye. And the end with the phone also reminds me of the end of OOTD with the computer.
Definitely, all technology refers to OOTD/Odd Eye
1:57 the strings on Dongie's nails reminiscent of You and I's spiderwebs. I mean, could be right??
You even noticed her nails?! InSomnia are really something haha
@@mt123pt hahahaha it just clicked all of a sudden. I would give you credit for charging up my Somnie brain for this task🤭🤭
@@rida-18 Wait.. How many times have you commented?? I don't know who you are, but I like you 😂
@@mt123pt bestie sorry if it felt like spamming. Yeah I am unsure but I sure have commented some 6-7 times so far😂😂
And thank you, you're quite likeable yourself and not to mention, very talented too
@@rida-18 Pls don't apologize! It helps with the algorithm I guess haha thanks!
I love seeing that there are people as excited about this comeback as I am and I'm open to talking more as it's a rare chance I get to do so (only my best friend listens to K-pop and she likes bgs more so-)
Oh and the text on the screen at the start reminds me of the dystopia trilogy, especially scream!
The background in the dance scenes vaguely reminds me of you and i
A mix of sets actually. You and I because of the ceiling, Chase Me because of the floor and Bonvoyage because of the architecture of the doors and windows
@@mt123pt it tracks🤔
Thank you for making it you very detail inSomnia. Gonna coming back here again for the future reference :)
You're welcome! Thanks for watching
@@mt123pt insomnia help each other :)
Sua's motion on 2:31 remind me of something, but idk what
And scene with Jiu on 2:42 remind me more of Fly high
Maybe the movement that SuA made in Vision in one of her solo parts?
For JiU's scene I later saw people mention You and I when she covers Yoohyeon's eyes, but yes it could also be Fly high! Good observation!
Would you add any more scenes? Let me know which ones!
Just a couple:
During Dami's "guiding me up" scene/line and just before her rap verse she wields a sword similar to one carried by Sua in Scream.
Also the eighth mysterious figure arriving in the penultimate scene wears an outfit which appears almost identical to those worn by Dark Jiu/Yoohyeon in Deja Vu..
Though I wonder if the same figure may be Ymenehcra or Shasha from OOTD, now that Justice saw The Crown destroyed by GahSing and its curse possibly broken.
Handong with wings and bring moon lamp it reminds me DC 2022 SG Celestial Dreams.
@@Nox210 In Dami's first scene I put Deja Vu because the pose is the same as Yoohyeon's, but really I could have put Scream in the rap.
The eighth person's outfit reminded me of SuA in No Dot, but you're right, it's also similar to the ones in Deja Vu.
Yeah, I also think it's the last person sacrificed at the end of OOTD
@@dazzlemiracle Wow! How did you remember that?? I wouldn't put it in the video because I was just referencing MVs, but great memory, fellow InSomnia!
@mt123pt for sure, yeah I see what you mean. Hadn't considered the likeness between Sua's No Dot, nice!
Also wanted to compliment Dazzle's comparison on Celestial Dreams, too. I think Deukae truly understand that we appreciate and pore over literally every detail of their art, and love giving us these little treats and treasures to discover.
I posted this on the r/dreamcatcher subreddit before the song was released, but my theory was that in the VersuS duology there are 2 parallel worlds - one where DC are the villains who serve the crown (OOTD), and one where they are the heroes (Justice). And that the versions of DC who are the heroes, are the ones who experienced everything from the Nightmare series, to Deja Vu, to ROSE BLUE, to the Dystopia series, to BEcause, then to the Apocalypse series by moving through each parallel world trying to be a force of goodness. Sometimes they didn't succeed like in the Dystopia series or had to leave the world behind like in the Apocalypse series. Then when this MV came out and there were so many references to their previous MVs, and even the choreo had many references to their old choreo, I was like damn maybe I'm onto something!! Hahaha. This time the heroes triumphed over the Crown, and renewed their conviction to their mission by recalling their past.
Hahaha it seems like you really are on the right path with that theory
at the beginning it kinda references eclipse too!!
0:54 gahyeon is wearing her odd eye hair, 1:40 dami in odd eye, 2:36 yoohyeon’s scene/note reminds me of her note in BEcause
Gahyeon's hair reminded me more of JiU's hair at the end of BEcause. Gahyeon's wig in Odd Eye wasn't so neat 🤣
02:42 looks the same as the scene when Yoohyeon sits in a chair at the beginning of the 'Deja Vu' video
Yes it does! That scene didn't come to mind at the time, but some people pointed it out 👍
Their 10th Mini Album already 😢 I LOVE Dreamcatcher, i became a stan in 2021 in BEcause era
I also became an InSomnia in 2021! Just a few days before the release of Odd Eye tho
Time flies, doesn't it?
@mt123pt Really does, my fav song is BEcause and MAISON, VISION & OOTD
@@LxuiicasLabels I don't think I can pick a fav title track, but Boca will always have a special place in my heart BEcause it was the song that introduced me to them :)
I started listening to them more closely after Scream, but my first comeback is Boca
@@noorhasbullaharifm.effandy144 It's good to see that even though we entered the fandom at different times, we're all still here :)
From the teaser, it reminded me of Deja vu and Rose blue.
Those two are just the tip of the iceberg 😂
@@mt123pt Exactly! The mv is brilliant!
2:41 when light emits from Yooh's body, it really reminds me when JiU's body emiting light too in Deja Vu MV, it was around 3:29
Yes! I realized that later!
oh this is amazing!
Thanks
BREAK CURSE
Gahyeon really said f*ck this curse, I'm going to blow up the crown haha
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We love it
Please vote on idol champ right now for them
Yessss let's vote guys!
1:53 Multiple Handongs reminds me of that weird effect they used in BOCA.
Used in the guy with the mask?
@@mt123pt No, the one where they're walking towards the Tree at around 1:30 or multiple Gahyeon's at 2:40 & the multiple hands at 2:58
@@Tranitosaur Oh I see, thanks for clarifying!
what about the crown looks like SuAs crown in vision
Yes it does! I didn't remember when making the video, thanks for pointing it out!
Eu tenho uma teoria , de que elas estão lutando contra as VillanS de OOTD ja que elas são as VirtuouS que seriam os herois , e elas claramente distruiram a coroa que é simbolo das VillanS , acho que no final a oitava pessoa é uma delas
Uma das vilãs? Olha que pode muito bem ser isso sim!
Everything video you mention that's exactly what i see!!!! What the hell😂😂
Haha these were the basic references for an InSomnia I guess. Watch the part 2 for even more detailed references ;)

you are forget the painting picture things when they are danceing. is giveing chase me danceing part
Some parts in this song reminds me of odd eye
The song itself or the MV?
@@mt123pt some parts of the mv
i might be mistaken, but jiu in the chains & the burning arrows could additonally be references to dante's inferno and the nine circles of hell, which would fit nicely with the justice theme. i dunno if they've been referencing dante's inferno in other MVs, but even if not, i think this MV also, in addition to calling back to old MVs, plays a lot with sinner/hell/heaven imagery (e.g. the apple, handong as an angel)
I don't have the knowledge to talk about dante's inferno, but I agree with the imagery of a sinner you spoke of. When I saw the MV teaser, the first thing I thought was that the villain Gahyeon from the last album was being punished for her sins with those arrows in her back and the dance spoiler made me think that the villains had been captured because there is a movement in which they have their wrists together, perhaps representing being handcuffed
And yeah, many scenes with fire = hell, Handong dressed as an angel = heaven ..
@@mt123pt yeah the only reason I even caught the chain & burning arrows as possible references is because another kpop group (CIX) has a whole MV using the same imagery and they explicitely state they are referencing dante's inferno (it's the MV for jungle if you're interested!), but I definitely agree with you that this seems very focused on villains and punishments!
@@lemon-yoghurt2805 As I'm not into bgs that much, I didn't know this song or its MV, but I watched it now and really liked it! Saw the chains and arrows, now I get why you mentioned dante's inferno
why you such a genius MdkT?
Far from being a genius, I'm just a passionate InSomnia haha
Thanks for watching!
Nice!
Thanks for watching
The room also looks familiar but i can't think of where i would have seen it before. Does it look familiar to you too?
I think you and I are feeling the same. The room kinda reminds me of You and I mv cuz they were dancing in a room with the same scale as this.
Probably the closest set to this is You and I as @rida-18 said because of the ceiling, but the floor is more similar to Chase Me and the architecture of the doors and windows remind me of Bonvoyage
@@mt123pt OMG yesss bestie. I knew I was feeling some BV setting in here too and yes the chase me observation is quite accurate.