Well done man that came so clean. My only gripe was you went all out clean and tucked wire wise till you got to the sled. Why not leave those tabs on the contacts and solder the wires to the back side of the sled then just dab some liquid tape over them and epoxy onto the sled and press it in place. Imo its perfect till you see the wires soldered to the front side of the sled. I learned alot from this video thanks. I was given a bronze rx200 with a DNA 250 in it I wanna use the board and put it in a nice box.
Can you plz make a video about all the tools you would need to make a box mod and how you find best to used them plz im really interested on knowing what exatly to get in order to make my own box mod thank you.
Good stuff bro...one thing is locktite is formulated to only harden when deprived of air so ya don't need to rush when its first applied...test what I said&see for yourself- it'll save ya some misery down the road :)
Thanks for the tip! I actually stopped using it, I don't think it's conductive and some say it adds resistance to the -510, but even if that's not the case, last time I had to repair a mod I had an impossible time removing the nut because of the locktite.
Yea idk which type ya were using,, the full strength red stuff is crazy strong&very hard to break loose....worst case scenario for getting things apart is just heat it with something to compromise it(which is tough in that space)...the amount it effects resistance/conductance is probably negligible for most people-those it'd bother use 2piece hybrid mechs Løl,,,I know I'd rather be assured it doesn't ever come loose on me with the locktite on!
I can't find this enclosure. I want to order the dna250 2x18650 kit to build one but the only enclosures in the options is the 2XL and XLT i think. Great videos man 👌
kinda would like to know where to get the DNA 250 chip, and a diagram to make a 250 Watt mod. either 2 or 3 18650s. I got more than enough batteries. I'm sick of buying vv/vws at shops and they don't last. and is there any means to water proof the board? that is the main reason I only make unregulated mods. they are bullet proof. I like vv/vw mods, and find they can be better in some aspects, but I haven't found one that was affordable and built well. some things you just have to do yourself. I am building an unregulated box now, but I'll be seeing what kind of clearance the box has for a chip later as I build. if I like the brand, I'll get a few. my only complication will be making the window for the LCD. but if you can put a part list and diagram together in PDF that would be great.
Could I do this same build if I use a bigger enclosure and a 26650 battery sled? I’m trying to make this build for a 42mm RDA. And I would like to run 26650s.
I have a question for you Analog Box Mods? Didnt evolv recommend not jumping the TAP's wiring to the B+/B- but recommend same distance wiring? Why did you jump them? Just wondering, not trolling or anything.
I haven't heard of this recommendation from evolv... I do it to make the wiring cleaner by having less wires all over the place. Some commercial mods (either Rouleaux or Therion, I forget), do this too.
The DNA 200/250/250c requires at least 2 batteries in series. Do a search for "fullymax 3s 900mAh" if you want to find a replacement lipo, that's the one that was used in the vaporshark.
Analog Box Mods Thanks for the reply. Im from argentina so its nearly imposible to get it. I found a similar one. Could it work? BATERIA LIPO 3S 11.1V 850 MAH 30/60C (CHNL BRAND) Capacidad: 850mAh Voltaje: 11.1V / 3-Cell / 3S1P Tasa de Descarga: 30c Continuo / 60c Picos Tasa de Carga: 5c Max Tamaño: 25X31X58mm Peso: 68 g Conector de salida: Jst Conector de Balanceo: JST/XH
Hi Dan, awesome video mate. Learnt heaps from watching your videos. This mod you built what's the max wattage it'll run as I'm not chasing anything over 180 watts as my tanks and coil builds aren't huge, I prefer to enjoy flavour from you builds on my RDTA set-up decks.
Analog Box Mods, thanks mate. Looking forward to watching more of your videos and learn more. I do ham and cb radio mods on my own equipment, also repairs on some. Doing electronics is s hobby only, I love building basic kits, also have repaired my kids remote control cars, quad-copters and helicopters. Mainly fixing very poor solder joints. Looking at placing an order for one of your kits to build in future, it'll give me something to do on my holidays.
If i dont care about the balance charger do i have to fuse the neg/positive pin of the charger to the neg/positive of the battery on the board ? Would it change the function of the board when it come to battery safety ?
Yes you still need to, not for a battery safety issue but if the board doesn't detect what it expects on those charging pins it won't fire, it will think something is wrong with the batteries and you'll get a "check battery" error. You could go into escribe and configure the board to run on a PSU, like we do for the passthroughs, then it won't care about those charging pins but it also won't monitor the batteries, so it won't know when they are drained and risk over discharging them... I guess that is a battery safety issue.
2 questions. Did u only use 16 and 24 gauge wire or did u use 14 gauge for the 510. And what kind of flux did u use. Oh and is flux core solder ok or should I also use flux.
Hey Ethan, I used 16AWG for the 510, 18AWG for the BATs and 24AWG for the balanced charging pins. I use a rosin core solder but I still use a "no clean" rosin flux when tinning.
I'd say almost any iron would be powerful enough for electronics like this, I'm not sure about power ratings... I started with a cheapo $20 one with no temp control, just straight plug into the wall, it was plenty powerful. Make sure your tip is clean (that's good advice for life in general :P), use the flux and tin everything then you should have a much easier time. Check the video list on my channel, I have an older "soldering tips and tricks" vid which may help.
It will work but silicone insulated wire is best, it's easier to work with because it's super flexible and it can handle more heat... because of that you can usually go up a gauge when using silicone wire, like if something calls for 16AWG pvc insulated wire you can use 18AWG silicone insulated wire instead. The datasheets for the DNA boards list different recommended gauges for silicone vs pvc insulated wire, always a gauge higher if you are using silicone.
I just updated the video description with a link to the parts kit if you want to build your own. If you want a completed one, contact us via the website and we can discuss, analogboxmods.ca/index.php?route=information/contact
This particular kit currently starts at $120CAD/$95USD, but yeah a pre-made one with the battery can easily go for over $200... it's a lot of precise, time consuming work putting one together. Only the new DNA250c board can get over 400W because it supports 4s batteries. I don't know who needs that much power :P I certainly don't, but the moment you go dual (or multiple) coils the power requirements increase a lot and there is a new trend of using higher resistance coils which also requires more power... I'm guessing those are the 2 main reasons.
I think it would be hard to get twice as much unless there is something special, like a stab wood enclosure or some cool laser engraving/etching on the enclosure.
I can assemble/build any of the kits on the website for a small build fee, but I can't ship completed mods overseas... contact me via the website if you want to discuss a commission.
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Thank you so much bro, saved me so much time! You made the order of what to do perfect, legend !!!
Thanks!
Well done man that came so clean. My only gripe was you went all out clean and tucked wire wise till you got to the sled. Why not leave those tabs on the contacts and solder the wires to the back side of the sled then just dab some liquid tape over them and epoxy onto the sled and press it in place. Imo its perfect till you see the wires soldered to the front side of the sled. I learned alot from this video thanks. I was given a bronze rx200 with a DNA 250 in it I wanna use the board and put it in a nice box.
Can you plz make a video about all the tools you would need to make a box mod and how you find best to used them plz im really interested on knowing what exatly to get in order to make my own box mod thank you.
Good stuff bro...one thing is locktite is formulated to only harden when deprived of air so ya don't need to rush when its first applied...test what I said&see for yourself- it'll save ya some misery down the road :)
Thanks for the tip! I actually stopped using it, I don't think it's conductive and some say it adds resistance to the -510, but even if that's not the case, last time I had to repair a mod I had an impossible time removing the nut because of the locktite.
Yea idk which type ya were using,, the full strength red stuff is crazy strong&very hard to break loose....worst case scenario for getting things apart is just heat it with something to compromise it(which is tough in that space)...the amount it effects resistance/conductance is probably negligible for most people-those it'd bother use 2piece hybrid mechs Løl,,,I know I'd rather be assured it doesn't ever come loose on me with the locktite on!
any idea if you might ever show us how to make a triple 18650 dna250 box? I love you videos man! top notch stuff!
Thanks Man! Yeah, I'm running out of unique combinations (chip, enclosure, batteries), a 3x18650 DNA build is a great idea, maybe this summer!
Pls help!!!
torn off track from 1 to smd. How can I connect differently?
I can't find this enclosure. I want to order the dna250 2x18650 kit to build one but the only enclosures in the options is the 2XL and XLT i think. Great videos man 👌
We won't be restocking the old DNA cutout enclosures, and only have the ABM-XL-DNA, and the ABM-XLT-DNA left in stock.
kinda would like to know where to get the DNA 250 chip, and a diagram to make a 250 Watt mod. either 2 or 3 18650s. I got more than enough batteries. I'm sick of buying vv/vws at shops and they don't last. and is there any means to water proof the board? that is the main reason I only make unregulated mods. they are bullet proof. I like vv/vw mods, and find they can be better in some aspects, but I haven't found one that was affordable and built well. some things you just have to do yourself. I am building an unregulated box now, but I'll be seeing what kind of clearance the box has for a chip later as I build. if I like the brand, I'll get a few. my only complication will be making the window for the LCD. but if you can put a part list and diagram together in PDF that would be great.
Thank you for the excellent vid 💨
Thanks for watching :)
hi dan maybe a squonker mod? seeing a lot of those lately, nicely done video as always
Thanks and yeah a squonk is a great idea, that wasn't on my list of future builds but it is now :).
Will a Yihi Chip fit too? They're cheaper and I dont need TC
Could I do this same build if I use a bigger enclosure and a 26650 battery sled? I’m trying to make this build for a 42mm RDA. And I would like to run 26650s.
Sure, if you have an enclosure big enough, the wiring would be exactly the same.
Analog Box Mods okay thank you for the video it was exactly what I’ve been looking for!
I have a question for you Analog Box Mods? Didnt evolv recommend not jumping the TAP's wiring to the B+/B- but recommend same distance wiring? Why did you jump them? Just wondering, not trolling or anything.
I haven't heard of this recommendation from evolv... I do it to make the wiring cleaner by having less wires all over the place. Some commercial mods (either Rouleaux or Therion, I forget), do this too.
Didnt see your answer till now. I saw it on the datasheet and was just wondering.
I hace a vaporshark dna200 from 2016, lipo is dead, cant find replacements, can i run the mod with 1 single 18650 ? I want to use it for mtl.
The DNA 200/250/250c requires at least 2 batteries in series. Do a search for "fullymax 3s 900mAh" if you want to find a replacement lipo, that's the one that was used in the vaporshark.
Analog Box Mods Thanks for the reply.
Im from argentina so its nearly imposible to get it. I found a similar one. Could it work?
BATERIA LIPO 3S 11.1V 850 MAH 30/60C (CHNL BRAND)
Capacidad: 850mAh
Voltaje: 11.1V / 3-Cell / 3S1P
Tasa de Descarga: 30c Continuo / 60c Picos
Tasa de Carga: 5c Max
Tamaño: 25X31X58mm
Peso: 68 g
Conector de salida: Jst
Conector de Balanceo: JST/XH
10:42 the cable for the balance switch position? i dont know how to wire now..
Hi Dan, awesome video mate. Learnt heaps from watching your videos. This mod you built what's the max wattage it'll run as I'm not chasing anything over 180 watts as my tanks and coil builds aren't huge, I prefer to enjoy flavour from you builds on my RDTA set-up decks.
Hey Rick, max wattage on this one is 166W.
Analog Box Mods, thanks mate. Looking forward to watching more of your videos and learn more. I do ham and cb radio mods on my own equipment, also repairs on some. Doing electronics is s hobby only, I love building basic kits, also have repaired my kids remote control cars, quad-copters and helicopters. Mainly fixing very poor solder joints. Looking at placing an order for one of your kits to build in future, it'll give me something to do on my holidays.
Cool man!
If ordering this kit from you, is it possible to have the DNA board already calibrated on escribe to run on dual 18650's prior to receiving it?
Sure, just add a comment during checkout that you want the board calibrated for 2x18650's.
Is there ANYONE who can explain the "DNA" abbreviation for a ModBox?
If i dont care about the balance charger do i have to fuse the neg/positive pin of the charger to the neg/positive of the battery on the board ? Would it change the function of the board when it come to battery safety ?
Yes you still need to, not for a battery safety issue but if the board doesn't detect what it expects on those charging pins it won't fire, it will think something is wrong with the batteries and you'll get a "check battery" error. You could go into escribe and configure the board to run on a PSU, like we do for the passthroughs, then it won't care about those charging pins but it also won't monitor the batteries, so it won't know when they are drained and risk over discharging them... I guess that is a battery safety issue.
Analog Box Mods thank you !
Can you make a dual 26650 250 DNA box mod.
I don't have an enclosure big enough for that :(.
2 questions. Did u only use 16 and 24 gauge wire or did u use 14 gauge for the 510. And what kind of flux did u use. Oh and is flux core solder ok or should I also use flux.
Hey Ethan, I used 16AWG for the 510, 18AWG for the BATs and 24AWG for the balanced charging pins. I use a rosin core solder but I still use a "no clean" rosin flux when tinning.
Ok thanks I was trying to find the right flux but didn't know which one to get. I think my soldering iron is underpowered. How powerful should it b?
I bought some 16 gauge wire from Home Depot and it's stranded copper. Not sure if that's the right wire.
I'd say almost any iron would be powerful enough for electronics like this, I'm not sure about power ratings... I started with a cheapo $20 one with no temp control, just straight plug into the wall, it was plenty powerful.
Make sure your tip is clean (that's good advice for life in general :P), use the flux and tin everything then you should have a much easier time.
Check the video list on my channel, I have an older "soldering tips and tricks" vid which may help.
It will work but silicone insulated wire is best, it's easier to work with because it's super flexible and it can handle more heat... because of that you can usually go up a gauge when using silicone wire, like if something calls for 16AWG pvc insulated wire you can use 18AWG silicone insulated wire instead. The datasheets for the DNA boards list different recommended gauges for silicone vs pvc insulated wire, always a gauge higher if you are using silicone.
how can you go to 166 w if you are at 3.7v, you would need a 0.08 ohm resistance
The batteries are in series, the voltage is ~7.4V
Analog Box Mods oh sorry sir, didn't see that, I thought you solded it in parallel in a series box
So could I run a triple sled and be able to push the full wattage?
Yup
great work!! what gauge wire are you using??
16AWG for the output (510), 18AWG for the input (BAT +/-) and 24AWG for the charging pins.
hey you have this mod for sale?
i would like to buy this mod just with an dna 250 not 166
This mod has been sold.
you could make another one?
how i can get the board aka DNA 166 in an Alpinetech
I just updated the video description with a link to the parts kit if you want to build your own. If you want a completed one, contact us via the website and we can discuss, analogboxmods.ca/index.php?route=information/contact
Hey. Is there any way to buy an exact mod like this already built?
I'm not sure if I sold this one or not, I'll have a look and let you know...
Analog Box Mods i dont mind if it will be a different one. Im talking about the size and chip. Would love to buy one. Update me bro
where you buy magnet box?
analogboxmods.ca/Box-Mod-Parts/Enclosures
@@AnalogboxmodsCanada i need 3d model. Or cad model :)
helllooo whats is a csv file 2 cell battery...balancer
It's attached to the first post in the following thread, evolvapor.forumchitchat.com/post/2s-18650-discussion-7521656?&trail=15
i going to try...thanks...
watching in 2018 why are these mods going for 200 - 300 bucks i get it you can get 400 watts but who vapes that high tho
This particular kit currently starts at $120CAD/$95USD, but yeah a pre-made one with the battery can easily go for over $200... it's a lot of precise, time consuming work putting one together.
Only the new DNA250c board can get over 400W because it supports 4s batteries. I don't know who needs that much power :P I certainly don't, but the moment you go dual (or multiple) coils the power requirements increase a lot and there is a new trend of using higher resistance coils which also requires more power... I'm guessing those are the 2 main reasons.
+Analog Box Mods yeah i can see it's a lot of work lol would you say that the dna 166 could sell for twice what it cost after building it
I think it would be hard to get twice as much unless there is something special, like a stab wood enclosure or some cool laser engraving/etching on the enclosure.
Do you sell these?
I can assemble/build any of the kits on the website for a small build fee, but I can't ship completed mods overseas... contact me via the website if you want to discuss a commission.
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