Roger Maris was more than just a home run king. He was a fantastic athlete in multiple sports. In high school football he scored five touchdowns on kickoffs in one game. A state record that still stands. Coach Bud Wilkerson offered Roger a full football scholarship to Oklahoma. He also was a great baseball player that never has received the credit he deserves. Hitting 61 home runs was a mammoth accomplishment. He also had great playoff numbers. He should be in the HOF.
Roger Maris was not only the homerun king and superb defensive outfielder, he was one of the most moral men to ever wear a baseball uniform. Pat Maris never had to worry about her husband fucking around on her because it was simply not in his DNA. A loyal husband and family man, if anyone deserved a long healthy, life... it was Roger Maris. I think he was only 51 when he died.
First, what does being a great high school football player have to do with belonging in the baseball HOF? Second, I'm not sure either of Maris's MVPs were really deserved. Mickey Mantle was likely the better player in both years, certainly in 1961 his numbers, other than home runs, were better. But, even assuming his MVPs were valid, there are lots of players with MVPs who aren't in the Hall. Maris was a fine player, but I don't see the case for him in the HOF. He hit less than 300 home runs in his career and only hit more than 30 home runs twice in his career. I'm sure Maris was a good guy and all that, but if he hadn't hit the 61 home homers, would anyone be pushing him for the HOF?
@@marcschneider4845 well said and I agree Aside from a couple great seasons maris was mediocre at best . Nice guy who dealt with a lot of negative crap but in my opinion he doesn't have the credentials to be a hall of famer
I never saw this apology from McGwire. It took alot of courage and humility to admit your mistake. The crazy thing is, you Mark, were SO talented that you probably would have challenged Mariis' 61 without even drinking a pre-game coffee!! I hope that your life is going OK. Take care!!!🥰😍🤩❤
Right. The pressure got to him. The press wouldn't leave him alone and Yankee fans hated him for being a humble guy, for not being colorful, and not being a "true Yankee". And then they hated him more for breaking "the Babe's record".
The only crime that Maris was ever accused was going towards the record. He did it legit even if it was in 8 extra games and no cheating as far as drugs.
not maris' fault that the seasons got extended and the record does state "most home runs in one season". there are a lot of differences between maris and babe ruth. ruth never hit at night, pitchers were better, better use of relievers, dead balls vs more lively balls and probably more than i have stated. the pressure that maris was under must have been tremendous.
Maris did set the non PED version record. However, Maris was far from a HOF caliber player. He hit 61 homers in 1961, an expansion year that saw several players have career years. Maris hit 39 in 1962. That's it. 2 good, or even great seasons, do not a HOFer make
Can you imagine the gall of this guy hugging the Maris family when he broke Roger's record? Son of a bitch...Maris still owns the record for non-steroid players. The true record.
I feel for the guy. But cheating is cheating. As a kid, I rooted for Maris to break the record. He belongs in the Hall of Fame because - well, he’s one of the most famous players of all time and it’s called The Hall of Fame, isn’t it? Besides, he won two MVP awards, 1960 and 1961.
Wilson was inducted by the HOF Veterans Committee. Frequently, the player benefits from an extended gap between milestone thresholds, which spotlight their seasonal performance, i.e., Wilson's 191 rbi's in 1930. Likewise, the gap between Randy Johnson's 300 career victories and the next 300-game winner will probably result in another two or three high 200+ pitchers being elected by the VC ⚾
Right you are and I've been saying this. 1961 was the first year they went to 162 games and if Roger had broken the record say 10 years later there would not have been such an outrage. Also If it had been Mickey Mantle instead of Maris there would not have been that too. The commissioner at the time had been good friends of the BABE! So many factors were against Roger who was a great guy too and a better man than Mantle or Ruth! Gee wiz I've written too much now! hahaha
Well known fact: you are wrong. Any baseball fan above the age of 5 knows the difference between "at bats" and "plate appearances." Ruth had 691 plate appearances, 540 official at bats was was walked 137 times. Maris, who hit number 60 in fewer plate appearances, finished with 698 plate appearances, 590 at bats, and 94 walks.
He had to life with that fuckin' asterik* next to his record all his life. Sure they took it off later but he was dead already !! Maris is the TRUE KING!! Forget McGuire and Bonds !!! But wasn't that summer baseball magic again!!! {Soto and Mac]
@AppleAficionado29 Absolutely! McGuire, Sosa, and Bonds are all frauds! So is AROD! If he breaks the HR record, he won't be legit. As far as I'm concerned, Maris and Hank Aaron are still the record holders for Homeruns in a season and alltime.
I remembered back in April, I said if Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire we’re inducted into the hall of fame then Roger Maris. Should be in the hall of fame, I believe this because all three of the players had to use steroids to accomplish what Roger Maris did naturally, so for that reason and that reason alone I believe Roger Maris should now be inducted into the hall of fame
Maris is the legitimate single season home run leader. I grew up a Yankees fan and I remember when Maris hit 61. When he was healthy, he was a very good player but unfortunately he suffered some serious injuries that really hurt his play, first in 1963 and then again in 1965 when he played with a fracture in his hand. That injury wrecked his career as he couldn’t grip the bat properly afterward and thus couldn’t hit with power any more. Roger was MVP in 1960 and again in 1961 but I don’t think his career numbers are good enough to put him in the Hall.
Roger Maris is STILL the home run king(162 games), in my opinion. You could make the argument that Babe Ruth is still the king since he did it in a 154 game season and undoubtedly would have hit more in his historic 1927 season.
@@ThekiBoran He and the Braves made a catastrophic, thoroughly inexplicable mistake spending years trying to make Murphy the world's tallest catcher. In the mid-1980's he was BETTER than Schmidt, Dawson, or any other MLB slugger. But he reached that elite level too late to sustain it into HOF territory.
When I look at Marris' stats I don't see HOF numbers. 1325 hits 275 homers .260 batting average. He didn't have the sustained excellence that would make him a HOF candidate. Sandy Koufax is one of the lone exceptions for a HOF'er who didn't rack up the huge numbers but he had a 5 year stretch that was mind-bogglingly outstanding.
JUST 74 COMMENTS. Please folks...I know he is very borderline. But I feel just the 61 homers proves he was not a fluke. He wasn't. Do you think he should be elected to the Hall of Fame? Would you be kind enough to give me your point of view? I just don't know and I need your input. Thank you, Bill G. [Griffin, Ga]
Mark Maguire could have been a first ballot hall of famer without ever taking steroids. He got hurt and taking them was a quick way back to the field, but then his ego and greed got the better of him. And lastly, there’s no crying in baseball.
Please stop with the asinine remarks - “… Roger Maris homered in his first World Series at bat #OTD 1960, as the Yankees lost to the Pirates, 6-4, in Game One played at Yankee Stadium. Few numbers in baseball history are as immortal as 61 - the number of home runs Maris hit in 1961 to break Babe Ruth mark from 1927. Maris, however, was more than a one-year wonder. In 1960, his first year with the Yankees after his acquisition from the Kansas City Athletics, Maris hit 39 home runs to finish as the AL runner-up to teammate Mickey Mantle; he led the AL with 112 RBIs and with a .581 slugging percentage, and was named AL MVP. After helping the Yankees to five straight pennants (1960-1964), Maris was traded to the St. Louis Cardinals in December 1966, helping them to NL pennants in 1967 and 1968. More than anything, Maris was a winner and a team-first player. After 12 big-league seasons, Maris retired after the 1968 season with 275 home runs and a 127 OPS+. For more on Maris, read his peer-edited, fact-checked, and copyedited biography in the SABR BioProject: twitter.com/SABRbioproject sabr.org/bioproj/person/Roger-Maris/ - Gregory H. Wolf, Co-Director, BioProject. Society for American Baseball Research (SABR)…”
Roger Maris homered in his first World Series at bat #OTD 1960, as the Yankees lost to the Pirates, 6-4, in Game One played at Yankee Stadium. Few numbers in baseball history are as immortal as 61 - the number of home runs Maris hit in 1961 to break Babe Ruth mark from 1927. Maris, however, was more than a one-year wonder. In 1960, his first year with the Yankees after his acquisition from the Kansas City Athletics, Maris hit 39 home runs to finish as the AL runner-up to teammate Mickey Mantle; he led the AL with 112 RBIs and with a .581 slugging percentage, and was named AL MVP. After helping the Yankees to five straight pennants (1960-1964), Maris was traded to the St. Louis Cardinals in December 1966, helping them to NL pennants in 1967 and 1968. More than anything, Maris was a winner and a team-first player. After 12 big-league seasons, Maris retired after the 1968 season with 275 home runs and a 127 OPS+. For more on Maris, read his peer-edited, fact-checked, and copyedited biography in the SABR BioProject: twitter.com/SABRbioproject sabr.org/bioproj/person/Roger-Maris/ - Gregory H. Wolf, Co-Director, BioProject. Society for American Baseball Research (SABR)
Crocodile tears don't mean a thing. McGwire laughed his steroid abuse all the way to the bank. He is just saying the obvious when he supports Roger Maris as the all time HR king. I've been saying that for decades. In fact, I wore a NYY # 9 Roger Maris T shirt for years. I call it my NO STEROIDS T SHIRT.
The HOF is a political joke. Arguably the greatest player that ever put on cleats will never be allowed into the Hall because of something he did after his playing days were over. Charlie Hustle will always be #1 to an entire generation who watched him play...I was fortunate enough to be one of them. Pete Rose will always be #1 to me.
I don't think Maris belongs in the hall of fame. Yes, he hit 61 home runs in a season without the help of steroids but he only had a couple of all star caliber years overall. He just doesn't have anywhere near the stats. It also greatly helped him to have Mickey Mantle batting right next to him in the order.
Sorry. Comparatively, then, let's haul a bunch of guys out of the hall... If Maris's story and stats aren;'t enough for some folks, then some folks need to re-evaluate a career, a history of the game, culture of the sport, culture of a nation. Those opposed to letting a great soul get into the hall are just part of the fidgety and problem of American obsession with power over longevity and finesse, darn it!!!....
@@philbrisell Maris didnt have longevity though. He retired at 33 and his last several years his stats were way below par. As were his first several years. Is it the hall of fame or the hall of average with a couple of great seasons?
@@STONESGAM In the spirit of W.P. Kinsella, the Maris story is legendary and worthy by its own merit. Nothing average about it unless someone diminishes the incredible history of the 61 season and Maris's performance and survival instincts in the face of all of popular sports media's expectations, which were off and unforgiving.
@@philbrisell Never said he didn't have a great story. I just don't think he has the stats for the hall of fame. And I don't think he had a long enough run of excellent seasons to be there despite his 61 homer year. Obviously many people agree with me since he isn't in it. I have nothing against him I'm sure he's a great guy.
This is what irritates me about these frigging athletes of today I know this was 1520 years ago but years ago but guess what there is no question Roger merris should be reinstated as the home run king all of these drug addicts today and steroid heads need to be kicked out of sports do you understand they need to be kicked out of sports altogether.. To take the record away from a legitimate super athlete like Roger Merritt's Mickey mantle Yogi beara all the grates from back in the day it's a travesty on our community.. There's nothing to think about there's nobody to ask do the right thing Ryan stayed him and throw those other guys records right out the f****** window because they didn't count....
How many players who broke Ruth’s home run record are not in the hall? You are incorrect to think that the 61 year wasn’t extraordinary enough to admit Maris to the Hall. There’s a broadcaster’s wing, for God’s sake. We honor the honorable for f-sake.
@@philbrisell you can certainly have your opinion but one year of home runs does not make you a hof player. maris 275 hr-260 average. here are 4 players off the top of my head from just one team who were just as good or better and should not be in the hof . cash 377 hr-271 avg, colavito 374 hr-266 avg, whittaker 244 hr-276 avg, horton 325 hr-273 avg. there are many more. except for one year maris was not special.
Yeah, like 8 years after he retires and accumalates his wealth and fame for what he knew was wrong the whole time he was doing it. That's the very reaction he was hoping to get so maybe everyone will forgive him and he'll be admitted into the HOF. Sorry cheater, it ain't happenin!
Roger deserves to be in more than these guys, right? www.12up.com/posts/6089112-7-most-undeserving-baseball-hall-of-famers?view_source=leagues_page&view_medium=%5Bmlb%5D%3FDmlbfbcs&USmlb168
Maris was a fine ballplayer but no credible argument can be made for his inclusion in the Hall of Fame. His lifetime stats aren't close, the supposed hostile sportswriters voted him an MVP in 1961 he clearly did not deserve.
Then make your case, you said nothing here. Maris should not have been given the 61 MVP, Mantle or Cash should have won the award, both had better years it's not even close. With respect to Hall of Fame selection, I cite the following rule: "No automatic elections based on performances such as a batting average of .400 or more for one (1) year, pitching a perfect game or similar outstanding achievement shall be permitted".
Roger Maris's record was a fluke, his career didn't have much else (still better than a lot of folks.) If Roger Maris is HOF, then so should Denny McLain & Bo Jackson. PED's are nothing new, ancient olympians ate bull testicles, Pud Galvin injected bull testicle extract, there should simply be a don't ask don't tell policy in an 'untested league' and the untested league champ goes up against the WS champ in an annual exhibition game. Who would get higher ratings, the rule followers or the home run hitters? Of course, Aaron Judge just beat Roger Maris's record; he doesn't look like he's on steroids (weighs a lot, but he's lean and not bulky; no specific signs of steroids but there are lean athletic steroid users that don't get bulky.)
MARIS DESERVES TO BE IN THE HALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤩😍🥰❤
Roger Maris was more than just a home run king. He was a fantastic athlete in multiple sports. In high school football he scored five touchdowns on kickoffs in one game. A state record that still stands. Coach Bud Wilkerson offered Roger a full football scholarship to Oklahoma. He also was a great baseball player that never has received the credit he deserves. Hitting 61 home runs was a mammoth accomplishment. He also had great playoff numbers. He should be in the HOF.
MVP in 1960 and 1961 as well. RM belongs in the hall.
Roger Maris was not only the homerun king and superb defensive outfielder, he was one of the most moral men to ever wear a baseball uniform. Pat Maris never had to worry about her husband fucking around on her because it was simply not in his DNA. A loyal husband and family man, if anyone deserved a long healthy, life... it was Roger Maris. I think he was only 51 when he died.
First, what does being a great high school football player have to do with belonging in the baseball HOF? Second, I'm not sure either of Maris's MVPs were really deserved. Mickey Mantle was likely the better player in both years, certainly in 1961 his numbers, other than home runs, were better. But, even assuming his MVPs were valid, there are lots of players with MVPs who aren't in the Hall. Maris was a fine player, but I don't see the case for him in the HOF. He hit less than 300 home runs in his career and only hit more than 30 home runs twice in his career. I'm sure Maris was a good guy and all that, but if he hadn't hit the 61 home homers, would anyone be pushing him for the HOF?
@@tonyvincent9753 great comments..
@@marcschneider4845 well said and I agree
Aside from a couple great seasons maris was mediocre at best . Nice guy who dealt with a lot of negative crap but in my opinion he doesn't have the credentials to be a hall of famer
I never saw this apology from McGwire. It took alot of courage and humility to admit your mistake. The crazy thing is, you Mark, were SO talented that you probably would have challenged Mariis' 61 without even drinking a pre-game coffee!! I hope that your life is going OK. Take care!!!🥰😍🤩❤
Roger was all around player
Good for you sir!!! I’m impressed with this gentleman.
At least Mcgwire came out and admitted unlike Bonds and Clemens.
They dont have to admit it, its obvious.
@@SuperOlds88 McGwire still is lying about Jose Canseco.
Right. The pressure got to him. The press wouldn't leave him alone and Yankee fans hated him for being a humble guy, for not being colorful, and not being a "true Yankee". And then they hated him more for breaking "the Babe's record".
The only crime that Maris was ever accused was going towards the record. He did it legit even if it was in 8 extra games and no cheating as far as drugs.
not maris' fault that the seasons got extended and the record does state "most home runs in one season". there are a lot of differences between maris and babe ruth. ruth never hit at night, pitchers were better, better use of relievers, dead balls vs more lively balls and probably more than i have stated. the pressure that maris was under must have been tremendous.
Maris did set the non PED version record. However, Maris was far from a HOF caliber player. He hit 61 homers in 1961, an expansion year that saw several players have career years. Maris hit 39 in 1962. That's it. 2 good, or even great seasons, do not a HOFer make
Can you imagine the gall of this guy hugging the Maris family when he broke Roger's record?
Son of a bitch...Maris still owns the record for non-steroid players. The true record.
I feel for the guy. But cheating is cheating. As a kid, I rooted for Maris to break the record. He belongs in the Hall of Fame because - well, he’s one of the most famous players of all time and it’s called The Hall of Fame, isn’t it? Besides, he won two MVP awards, 1960 and 1961.
True, {BUT } 3 good years DO NOT make you a HOFER ! Sorry ....
@@robertd.7060 But Hack Wilson is in for or what??? 3 good seasons. GIVE ME A BREAK!
Wilson was inducted by the HOF Veterans Committee. Frequently, the player benefits from an extended gap between milestone thresholds, which spotlight their seasonal performance, i.e., Wilson's 191 rbi's in 1930.
Likewise, the gap between Randy Johnson's 300 career victories and the next 300-game winner will probably result in another two or three high 200+ pitchers being elected by the VC ⚾
Little-known Fact: Roger Maris hit number 60 in four fewer at bats than Babe Ruth did!
Right you are and I've been saying this. 1961 was the first year they went to 162 games and if Roger had broken the record say 10 years later there would not have been such an outrage. Also If it had been Mickey Mantle instead of Maris there would not have been that too. The commissioner at the time had been good friends of the BABE! So many factors were against Roger who was a great guy too and a better man than Mantle or Ruth! Gee wiz I've written too much now! hahaha
Well known fact: you are wrong. Any baseball fan above the age of 5 knows the difference between "at bats" and "plate appearances." Ruth had 691 plate appearances, 540 official at bats was was walked 137 times. Maris, who hit number 60 in fewer plate appearances, finished with 698 plate appearances, 590 at bats, and 94 walks.
He had to life with that fuckin' asterik* next to his record all his life. Sure they took it off later but he was dead already !! Maris is the TRUE KING!! Forget McGuire and Bonds !!! But wasn't that summer baseball magic again!!! {Soto and Mac]
'Hardest day of my life'
What a baby 😄
@AppleAficionado29 Absolutely! McGuire, Sosa, and Bonds are all frauds! So is AROD! If he breaks the HR record, he won't be legit. As far as I'm concerned, Maris and Hank Aaron are still the record holders for Homeruns in a season and alltime.
I remembered back in April, I said if Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire we’re inducted into the hall of fame then Roger Maris. Should be in the hall of fame, I believe this because all three of the players had to use steroids to accomplish what Roger Maris did naturally, so for that reason and that reason alone I believe Roger Maris should now be inducted into the hall of fame
Roger Maris needs to be inducted already.
No way! Roger Maris had three All-Star level seasons in his career.
McGwire who?....Maris, Homerun KING!!!
I never saw this apology from Mark McGwire. God Bless you Mark! It took alot of courage a
Roger Maris was a good athlete who deserves to be in Cooperstown.
Maris is the legitimate single season home run leader. I grew up a Yankees fan and I remember when Maris hit 61. When he was healthy, he was a very good player but unfortunately he suffered some serious injuries that really hurt his play, first in 1963 and then again in 1965 when he played with a fracture in his hand. That injury wrecked his career as he couldn’t grip the bat properly afterward and thus couldn’t hit with power any more. Roger was MVP in 1960 and again in 1961 but I don’t think his career numbers are good enough to put him in the Hall.
Roger Maris is STILL the home run king(162 games), in my opinion.
You could make the argument that Babe Ruth is still the king since he did it in a 154 game season and undoubtedly would have hit more in his historic 1927 season.
Roger is the only player who won consecutive MVP awards, not in the HOF.
Dale Murphy
Dale Murphy should be in as well.
What's keeping Maris out of the HOF? His .260 batting average, his 275 homeruns, his 850 RBI? What?
@@ThekiBoran He and the Braves made a catastrophic, thoroughly inexplicable mistake spending years trying to make Murphy the world's tallest catcher. In the mid-1980's he was BETTER than Schmidt, Dawson, or any other MLB slugger. But he reached that elite level too late to sustain it into HOF territory.
@@jackwalker4744
I was referring to Maris. Maris' stats just aren't HOF #s.
Mark "I'm Not Here to Talk About the Past" McGwire
You're telling me Roger Maris is NOT in the Hall of Fame?? How is that possible?
Roger belongs in the Hall of Fame!
When I look at Marris' stats I don't see HOF numbers.
1325 hits
275 homers
.260 batting average.
He didn't have the sustained excellence that would make him a HOF candidate.
Sandy Koufax is one of the lone exceptions for a HOF'er who didn't rack up the huge numbers but he had a 5 year stretch that was mind-bogglingly outstanding.
if Roger Marris is not in the baseball hall of fame then there is no hall of fame and nothing but a joke !
JUST 74 COMMENTS. Please folks...I know he is very borderline. But I feel just the 61 homers proves he was not a fluke. He wasn't. Do you think he should be elected to the Hall of Fame? Would you be kind enough to give me your point of view? I just don't know and I need your input. Thank you, Bill G. [Griffin, Ga]
Don Mattingly should be in hall of fame. One time he's was the best hitter in 80' yr.⚾️
He’s not sorry he’s just sorry he got caught Maris still holds the record in my book mark just cheated. With drugs
He cheated with those steroids that he took in the 90s.
maris chain smoked and pulled his hair out for that record.
Mark Maguire could have been a first ballot hall of famer without ever taking steroids. He got hurt and taking them was a quick way back to the field, but then his ego and greed got the better of him. And lastly, there’s no crying in baseball.
I don't think so 263 career Batting average, 1 gold glove, how many home runs would he have ended up with without steroids
His BA was too low and he had too many strikeouts.
Good player. A season to remember. But, Maris is not a HOF player.
Please stop with the asinine remarks -
“… Roger Maris homered in his first World Series at bat #OTD 1960, as the Yankees lost to the Pirates, 6-4, in Game One played at Yankee Stadium. Few numbers in baseball history are as immortal as 61 - the number of home runs Maris hit in 1961 to break Babe Ruth mark from 1927. Maris, however, was more than a one-year wonder. In 1960, his first year with the Yankees after his acquisition from the Kansas City Athletics, Maris hit 39 home runs to finish as the AL runner-up to teammate Mickey Mantle; he led the AL with 112 RBIs and with a .581 slugging percentage, and was named AL MVP. After helping the Yankees to five straight pennants (1960-1964), Maris was traded to the St. Louis Cardinals in December 1966, helping them to NL pennants in 1967 and 1968. More than anything, Maris was a winner and a team-first player. After 12 big-league seasons, Maris retired after the 1968 season with 275 home runs and a 127 OPS+.
For more on Maris, read his peer-edited, fact-checked, and copyedited biography in the SABR BioProject: twitter.com/SABRbioproject
sabr.org/bioproj/person/Roger-Maris/
- Gregory H. Wolf, Co-Director, BioProject. Society for American Baseball Research (SABR)…”
Roger Maris homered in his first World Series at bat #OTD 1960, as the Yankees lost to the Pirates, 6-4, in Game One played at Yankee Stadium. Few numbers in baseball history are as immortal as 61 - the number of home runs Maris hit in 1961 to break Babe Ruth mark from 1927. Maris, however, was more than a one-year wonder. In 1960, his first year with the Yankees after his acquisition from the Kansas City Athletics, Maris hit 39 home runs to finish as the AL runner-up to teammate Mickey Mantle; he led the AL with 112 RBIs and with a .581 slugging percentage, and was named AL MVP. After helping the Yankees to five straight pennants (1960-1964), Maris was traded to the St. Louis Cardinals in December 1966, helping them to NL pennants in 1967 and 1968. More than anything, Maris was a winner and a team-first player. After 12 big-league seasons, Maris retired after the 1968 season with 275 home runs and a 127 OPS+.
For more on Maris, read his peer-edited, fact-checked, and copyedited biography in the SABR BioProject: twitter.com/SABRbioproject
sabr.org/bioproj/person/Roger-Maris/
- Gregory H. Wolf, Co-Director, BioProject. Society for American Baseball Research (SABR)
@@philbrisell : he isn’t a HOF player. If that’s asinine for you, then so be it. But he isn’t.
Crocodile tears don't mean a thing. McGwire laughed his steroid abuse all the way to the bank. He is just saying the obvious when he supports Roger Maris as the all time HR king. I've been saying that for decades. In fact, I wore a NYY # 9 Roger Maris T shirt for years. I call it my NO STEROIDS T SHIRT.
The HOF is a political joke. Arguably the greatest player that ever put on cleats will never be allowed into the Hall because of something he did after his playing days were over. Charlie Hustle will always be #1 to an entire generation who watched him play...I was fortunate enough to be one of them. Pete Rose will always be #1 to me.
Aaron Judge, Hold my milk.
I feel bad for the cheaters, but you did what you did!
Now I'm here to talk about the past.
It made baseball fun to watch
Oh boo hoo BS it was hard for him to admit it, it wasnt hard for him to lie about it. Juiced up liar.
If he was really sorry he would’ve given back the $$$ he ‘won’ when it came time for renegotiating his next contract. False sorrow.
I don't think Maris belongs in the hall of fame. Yes, he hit 61 home runs in a season without the help of steroids but he only had a couple of all star caliber years overall. He just doesn't have anywhere near the stats. It also greatly helped him to have Mickey Mantle batting right next to him in the order.
Sorry. Comparatively, then, let's haul a bunch of guys out of the hall... If Maris's story and stats aren;'t enough for some folks, then some folks need to re-evaluate a career, a history of the game, culture of the sport, culture of a nation. Those opposed to letting a great soul get into the hall are just part of the fidgety and problem of American obsession with power over longevity and finesse, darn it!!!....
@@philbrisell Maris didnt have longevity though. He retired at 33 and his last several years his stats were way below par. As were his first several years.
Is it the hall of fame or the hall of average with a couple of great seasons?
@@STONESGAM In the spirit of W.P. Kinsella, the Maris story is legendary and worthy by its own merit. Nothing average about it unless someone diminishes the incredible history of the 61 season and Maris's performance and survival instincts in the face of all of popular sports media's expectations, which were off and unforgiving.
@@philbrisell Never said he didn't have a great story. I just don't think he has the stats for the hall of fame. And I don't think he had a long enough run of excellent seasons to be there despite his 61 homer year.
Obviously many people agree with me since he isn't in it. I have nothing against him I'm sure he's a great guy.
This is what irritates me about these frigging athletes of today I know this was 1520 years ago but years ago but guess what there is no question Roger merris should be reinstated as the home run king all of these drug addicts today and steroid heads need to be kicked out of sports do you understand they need to be kicked out of sports altogether.. To take the record away from a legitimate super athlete like Roger Merritt's Mickey mantle Yogi beara all the grates from back in the day it's a travesty on our community.. There's nothing to think about there's nobody to ask do the right thing Ryan stayed him and throw those other guys records right out the f****** window because they didn't count....
maris was a decent player. there are many decent players. just because he had one good year with home runs doesn't mean he belongs in the hof.
How many players who broke Ruth’s home run record are not in the hall? You are incorrect to think that the 61 year wasn’t extraordinary enough to admit Maris to the Hall. There’s a broadcaster’s wing, for God’s sake. We honor the honorable for f-sake.
@@philbrisell you can certainly have your opinion but one year of home runs does not make you a hof player. maris 275 hr-260 average. here are 4 players off the top of my head from just one team who were just as good or better and should not be in the hof . cash 377 hr-271 avg, colavito 374 hr-266 avg, whittaker 244 hr-276 avg, horton 325 hr-273 avg. there are many more. except for one year maris was not special.
Yet Rose is banned for life?
Because he bet on baseball. You can't do that.
You bet on baseball, you're banned for life. No exceptions. No second chances.
And Nolan Ryan is in never accused while having no hitter and 300 k season at 43
Yeah, like 8 years after he retires and accumalates his wealth and fame for what he knew was wrong the whole time he was doing it. That's the very reaction he was hoping to get so maybe everyone will forgive him and he'll be admitted into the HOF. Sorry cheater, it ain't happenin!
Mark will never get in the HOF ..he doesn't deserve to.
roger maris is simply not good enough to be in the hall of fame. the hall of fame is about a baseball CAREER. not some one season record.
Roger deserves to be in more than these guys, right?
www.12up.com/posts/6089112-7-most-undeserving-baseball-hall-of-famers?view_source=leagues_page&view_medium=%5Bmlb%5D%3FDmlbfbcs&USmlb168
No one has broken his record since
Bonds.
Frankly who the heck cares what a "grandstanding" congressman thinks.
Karma is a funny thing Huh Mark ? 🤔
This record will always belong to Roger Maris. McGwire, Sosa, and Bonds all cheated.
What I'd like to know is when McGuire used steroids, was it illegal in baseball? If not, how is that considered cheating?
it was a violation of mlb rules when McGwire and
Sosa and Clemens 'roided their way to infamy.
@@philbrisell , Thanks.
Maris was a fine ballplayer but no credible argument can be made for his inclusion in the Hall of Fame. His lifetime stats aren't close, the supposed hostile sportswriters voted him an MVP in 1961 he clearly did not deserve.
What an absurd bunch of gibberish.
Then make your case, you said nothing here. Maris should not have been given the 61 MVP, Mantle or Cash should have won the award, both had better years it's not even close. With respect to Hall of Fame selection, I cite the following rule:
"No automatic elections based on performances such as a batting average of .400 or more for one (1) year, pitching a perfect game or similar outstanding achievement shall be permitted".
Maris career numbers are pedestrian so yes 2 MVP awards and some All Star appearances but overall not Hall of Fame worthy.
Dude steroids or not it doesn't help hand eye coordination just strength 💪
@@philbrisell is your Sunday this boring kid? I said one thing and it got you so BUTTHURT..
@@707ridah back at cha!
@@philbrisell 😄 touche sir, stay blessed my dude
Whiners and cry babies like Roger Maris and mark McGuire doesn’t belong in hall of fame
cheater
Cheater in my book. He cheated and fooled everyone in MLB.
Roger Maris's record was a fluke, his career didn't have much else (still better than a lot of folks.) If Roger Maris is HOF, then so should Denny McLain & Bo Jackson. PED's are nothing new, ancient olympians ate bull testicles, Pud Galvin injected bull testicle extract, there should simply be a don't ask don't tell policy in an 'untested league' and the untested league champ goes up against the WS champ in an annual exhibition game. Who would get higher ratings, the rule followers or the home run hitters? Of course, Aaron Judge just beat Roger Maris's record; he doesn't look like he's on steroids (weighs a lot, but he's lean and not bulky; no specific signs of steroids but there are lean athletic steroid users that don't get bulky.)
Everybody was juicing, he just performed the best out of them
Bonds was far better.
Steroids had no impact on Mcguire's eyesight, timing and swing-mechanics ...... but Mark is correct, that Roger should be enshrined in the HOF
he's not breaking maris' record without the roids dumbass
say wat? STEROIDS ?? OMG🤔 OK THEN
CHEATER!!
Maris was not a hall of fame caliber player. Like most things Yankees, he was overrated.
Almost every player in every sport takes a “performance enhancing drug”! Think about it.
Nobody cares what you think or how you feel about this guy or Barry Bonds. Guess what there isn't an asterisk by either of their names.