@@KatEtoile no but actually it's super comfy and it arrived in like a week! Some of the other stuff in the omitb Hulu shop was a little iffy but this was a good find I think :)
ok this is probably not a big deal but its been bugging me: how tf did the production know what clothes the trio was wearing on the first day they met??
A tap in in golf is a very short putt (you've gotten the ball very close to the hole, so the next shot is just to nudge/tap the ball so it falls in the hole - tap in), one that is nearly impossible to miss.
i noticed the time zone thing right away. There is no way a show this detailed made this blatant a mistake. Therefore, I believe Bev was in NYC (or Eastern Time Zone somewhere) and she is lying, which means we cant trust anything from her. Also with the gun. They way she was holding it and aiming it gave me the impression she is familiar with guns and that its hers. So, why is she packing a gun when she goes to the training center? Of course, Bev could be a red herring. Same with the Brothers as the show sure seems to want us to think its them, but we are only half way done.
@@randomhuman19 apparently if you do go to a new time zone the phone automatically converts it to the time zone where you currently are not where you were when the VM came in, but even still the fact that bev knew about the poverty cottage is weird to me. Could totally be a red herring though for sure
I’m thinking all the season one clues are misdirects for the moment. I don’t feel like we’re actually going to get any answers to any of the callback references in this season. With the way its progressing, I feel like the show is only going to have time to solve Sazz’s murder with no time to tie it all in to season one lose ends before the season finale. It seems like we’ll get smaller clues from Sazz’s desk that it’s all connected, but none of that will fit or factor in anywhere until season 5 when there’s another murder to solve.
@@Jinxed222 unfortunately I think that's probably the case as well. Sure maybe the finale may tee us up for some other mystery that's more overarching and maybe something sazz even knew about but there's so much going on it's hard to imagine how we are halfway done already
I really like the idea that Sazz wrote the script and it was stolen. Marshall being involved in stealing the script seems to be a strong motive. But I also think most of the Hollywood plot seems to be a misdirect and will end up being irrelevant like in season one with the Demas grave robbing side plot that ended up having nothing to do with the actual murder. Why introduce the westies and the ham radios? That could be the misdirect but it seems like we’re meant to forget about all of that as the season goes on and gets more into the Hollywood character story lines. Linking it all together, I could see Marshall as a potential stuntman and also the previous tenant in the Dudenoff apartment. That gives him a potential connection to Sazz, the concussions bar and therefore by extension Glenn, as well as the arconia, which could be the initial reason he’s so obsessed with the podcasters in the first place. Helga might also be a stunt person who has a connection to Concussions. Maybe Helga and Rudy were dating but after Rudy met Marshall through her, they bonded over both being broke frauds and killed Sazz to make money off her script. Helga figured it out and was like nope and got the hell out of there, which ties in the westie/Helga angle. It’s possible Rudy and Marshall are working together after having met each other through Helga, with her possibly being the person to mention Sazz’s script idea in the first place, and the other westies are just innocent bystanders who like to play a nice game of cards over toilet ham. Helga could’ve known and liked Sazz and didn’t want her to end up dead which is why she sounded so concerned over the ham radio. I could also easily see her being the last Dudenoff apartment resident, and when she found out about what Rudy and Marshall were plotting, she left immediately (possibly leaving the pig behind because it’s hard to take them on planes or clear customs or something) and they just used her apartment as the place to shoot from because it was empty and they knew the code to get it. Now if I could only fit Howard into this theory….
@@Jinxed222 Howard is and always will be the wild card 😂 I like your theory though! I definitely failed to mention the fact that perhaps Marshall lived in NYC before becoming a writer so he could have been friends or had connections with the westies for sure
For the time zones thing…your phone adjusts the time to whatever time zone you are currently in. So even though Bev was in LA the night of the murder, she is in east coast time when talking to the trio at the cottage so her phone would show the voicemail in east coast time. It seems like she has an iPhone and this automatically happens when you travel to various time zones. Nerds At Nite channel also confirmed that but I know from traveling this is not an inconsistency
Does that apply to old voicemails already received though? Definitely new voicemails after the time zone change, but does that change dates and or times on voicemails that you received before you switched time zones? Like, you still received it at 11:07 pm on a Thursday, so does that change like a week after the fact? I’ve never paid attention to if my voicemail received times change on old messages when I switch time zones, but it doesn’t feel like they do. I can’t seem to find a single clear answer anywhere online though.
I think actually, per your theory, that the idea of Glen being the target at the end of the episode actually points to Marshall being a killer 👀 Notice how Glen changes his tone when he realizes that he slipped his tongue when openly recognizing Marshall. Marshall knew he couldn’t be trusted with secrets, and so he killed him.
@@Nick-db1zp could definitely be the case! It is sus to me that Marshall is clearly shown walking away at the end of this episode and we do not see him in the moments before the shot, but I still question why he didn't just kill sazz in LA
Because Glenn says "when'd you grow the beard, LASSIE" (not laddie), I think he was genuinely confusing Marshall for Mabel. Honestly a good joke since the only other time he has encountered the guys was the day prior when they were with Mabel. Also speaks to Glenn not being mentally sound or having a great memory as a result of multiple concussions.
@@shannonmayes2294 it's definitely hard to tell sometimes what is a joke and what isn't on this show, I think I'd agree with you if it wasn't for Marshall's face who looked not confused but a little freaked out by Glenn. Could have been the accent spooking him though because it's still bad lol!
They may have encountered each other as stunt men, and all that that implies. But even if Marshall recognized Glen, Glen wasn't connecting those same dots. It Marshall stole his script, he would be relieved to not be recognized.
Your predictions (which I love) sparked a couple random and potentially unhelpful ideas. 💡(Warning: I’m still sleepy after a late night, so these thoughts may seem more brilliant to me than they actually are. 😉) - TH-cam sent me down a Jin Ha (Marshall’s actor) rabbit hole this weekend by recommending a video of his AWESOME performance of “Wait For It” from Hamilton. 🤩 I knew nothing of this guy before Only Murders, but his background is Broadway - and one of his relatively recent roles was in a well-known play (I won’t share the name to hopefully avoid spoilers), in which is character believably masquerades as a woman. Now, connecting that to this show, I followed Charles’ assumption that Glen mistook Marshall for Mabel because he called him “lass.” But you’re right - that IS an assumption and Marshall DID look freaked out, so…What if Glen knew Marshall as a woman? In fact, building off the theories you shared that Marshall was or is a stuntman, what if he always doubles for women, just as Sazz always doubles for men?? Regardless, let it be known as well that this actor also has experience handling a gun (from his role in Hamilton). - Also, I totally agree with your theory that Glen was shot, but my mind went a bit of a different direction with it: What if the target was actually Oliver, and these killings aren’t specific to Sazz and Charles, but to the trio (and these killer(s) are just dumb, I guess, and missed their intended targets twice), which is what sends the three fleeing to Charles’ sister’s house in Episode 7, before an attempt can be made on Mabel? 🤔 And I can’t leave without mentioning Clue! 😃 The “number of bullets” discussion is one of my favorite bits in the entire film! (Or fill-um, as Glen would say. ☺️) My cousin and I watched Clue together about a billion times, and we’d quote “1+2+2+1” at every remotely available opportunity. ❤ (Incidentally, she’s now married to a guy who doesn’t find the movie funny, so we’ve decided you either get it or you don’t. 😊) And it never occurred to me that Clue must be where I, too, picked up the knowledge / assumption that guns hold six bullets. 😄 Learning about life from the movies. 😉
@@Jillian_Paige okay first of all, who doesn't find clue funny??? That's a thunderbolt badge right there! I also really like your theory about Marshall, would make a lot of sense and give context to some of his weird reactions to things in this episode! I have also heard this actor is absolutely amazing in other things so I'm looking forward to checking those out as well at some point :)
@@kitkatz3859 I knew you’d share our dismay. In fairness to my cousin, she wasn’t aware of this thunderbolt badge-worthy character flaw until after they married. 😉 And yes, regardless of whether any of our theories turn out to be true, I’m really rooting for Marshall to be a murderer, just to see Jin Ha does with that. ☺️
@@Jillian_Paige I do think the fact that they picked someone who was in Hamilton and has such a big reputation for the role tells me he's gotta be somewhat important in this story, so either way I'm excited to see what he does for the rest of the season!
@@kitkatz3859I too adore Clue! I have a theory that Marshall has a twin sister who is the stunt double. That’s why Glen said “lass” - Marshall then realized Glen knows his sister (who stole the script from Sazz)
@@uvajenny another person with impeccable taste in movies🫡 love the idea with a secret twin and would fit perfectly into the seasons theme. Bet anything that Marshall's hypothetical twin won't be as insufferable as the brothers sisters!
When your phone travels into a different time zone all of the timestamps update to that current time zone. Bev was standing in Paradise New Jersey, so it read 11:07 PM.
If we were to go off my theory about Scott Bakula and Joy I think Joy could have shot somebody at the end of this episode. She could be the one doing all the make up behind the scenes for some of the characters in the movie, she could have shot one of the guys playing Charles so that his position would need a replacement and Scott could be that replacement. That could bring Scott back into the picture in future episodes
Definitely would be a fun way to explore the idea of two culprits working together, I just don't know if we have enough info pointing to either of them yet. That said we have another half of the season to go so can't rule anyone out yet!
going back to the title of episode 1, that movie had a lot to do with land rights. who inherits this property from Sazz? since the FBI is involved im wondering if there is some sort of fraud involved. also is cookie the person she cant get untangled from since cookie is on the murder board? in next weeks title, that movie is about a photographer who takes pictures of people in a park. when he blows them up, it looks like pictures from a murder scene.
@lisa-lisa-lisa the fact that this season is all movie titles is very fun and I have to think there's gotta be a clue to that somewhere. As for cookie I think it could be relevant for sure especially since they went to the trouble of getting a picture of cookie so we may end up seeing her!
Glen calls Marshal lassie. Is Marshal trangender? That's why he can't grow facial hair? Maybe he was a stuntwoman, not a stuntman, which is why Glen thinks Marshal is a lassie, not a laddie because he knew her as a stuntwoman. The weights could be to change a feminine physique to look masculine. He also compares his stand up act as Jonathan Winters meets Ali Wong (interesting to compare himself to a woman)
@@dugferd2266 I think that's a really interesting theory! Would also explain why specifically Charles assumed he meant Mabel because lassie is more for a female not a male. Love that idea!
@@kitkatz3859 just a quick question, where did the "Marshal may have worked in stunts" idea come from, was it just that Marshal seemed familiar to Glen in the soda bread scene? Are there some other references that directly support his/her doing stunts? I don't think it changes the new gender idea, because Glen may have met the previous Marshal in some other capacity, though stuntwork would help include Sazz in that circle and the whole means for the script stealing idea.
@@matthew393 I'm with you, this season has been way more challenging than last to cover because it's hard to make sense of it all. I guess it's a difference from what we got last time which is nice but still!
A theory I have for one of the red herrings, there are bound to be many 😂. Both shootings are committed within the apartment and premises, the bullet hole in both glass windows is the red herring. 😅
@@OMG21ization it did occur to me potentially that bev using that gun was important because maybe it was used somehow to kill sazz or something, they did focus on it a lot. I think it's definitely a valid theory for sure!
This season is very confusing. It is like we didn’t know who the murderer is putting in to get a good idea with the person of the murders. All of the murders are at all time as we knew all the suspect, but not all the murderers. K-1 comes out😅
@@kaiwancallender2761 like I said, this season lowkey feels like a really funny yet persistent concussion lol I love it but also making videos about it is lowkey maddening to not have it be a totally confusing mess!
Love your thoughts about the intern....if sazz wrote the script wouldn't she and bev know each other? We need the show to flashback the party so we can see why sazz went for the wine - that will be a huge indicator of who is victim and answer lots of questions.. Still not completely letting go of charles in coma theory... paradise, hells kitchen, oh hell game. He is so introspective this season and Oliver and Mabel seem to be (as you said of mabel) repeating themes of themselves. Just saying...
@@molliekatz432 my point was that sazz wrote it but didn't submit it, which is why Marshall was able to do it and take credit and bev didn't know about any of it. I also like the creativity with the whole Charles in a coma idea but it seems like that may make things really convoluted, kinda like Roseanne finale where it was all a dream
I think either the brother sisters ordered on a writer and Charles son or daughter that’s my theory is trying to kill him in somewhere or break ex-girlfriend of Charles Charles I think reference to the studio because they close it down that studio real life
I definitely could see this being not Charles Mabel and Oliver as the target, but they'll of course think they are because everyone is dressed like them. Would love a good secret child twist!
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Can’t wait for next vid. Can only imagine Ms brain either melted or is on fire following the handwriting texts at end of ep 6, calling back to S1.
I love that this was the first video on my TH-cam homepage; TH-cam knew I was coming here solely for this video today. Excited to watch!
@@laurenl6049 I'm glad the algorithm is finally being nice to me 🥺😭 thanks for watching and I can't wait to hear your thoughts!
I am so happy to see that your channel is growing and rightly so it should
Blow up 🆙 🎉🎉🎉🎉
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this is why you're my favorite! LOL
@@00pulce00 LOL Mabel and Charles are testing me this season I swear 😂
@@kitkatz3859 i keep thinking of "fuck are we doing?!" every time they DON'T ask the westies any actually important questions..etc..
@@00pulce00 that's probably what Uma was screaming about honestly lol she knows what's up!
Dark mode + gripping content, You're spoiling me now!
Keep slaying, you're nailing it! 😉
@@rishinakulshreshtha8145 thanks sm it truly means a lot and I'm glad dark mode is a hit! ❤️
The ‘Concussions’ sweatshirt is so cool!
@@KatEtoile no but actually it's super comfy and it arrived in like a week! Some of the other stuff in the omitb Hulu shop was a little iffy but this was a good find I think :)
So......basically, Moriarty could still be Sting.
That's the conclusion I'm drawing, makes sense to me 🤷
@@kitkatz3859 😉
ok this is probably not a big deal but its been bugging me: how tf did the production know what clothes the trio was wearing on the first day they met??
@@editingeek a good question that once again Charles Mabel and Oliver aren't asking lol unless they got into those specifics in the podcast?
What a way to start off the last Monday in September!!!!!!❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
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Ok what the hell just happened?! 😮 I can’t wait for your next one!
@@Jinxed222 when I tell you my brain is doing mental gymnastics right now lol I am freaking out about this episode
A tap in in golf is a very short putt (you've gotten the ball very close to the hole, so the next shot is just to nudge/tap the ball so it falls in the hole - tap in), one that is nearly impossible to miss.
@@dugferd2266 thank you for the golf intel, need to learn all I can before this comes up later in the season 🫡
i noticed the time zone thing right away. There is no way a show this detailed made this blatant a mistake. Therefore, I believe Bev was in NYC (or Eastern Time Zone somewhere) and she is lying, which means we cant trust anything from her. Also with the gun. They way she was holding it and aiming it gave me the impression she is familiar with guns and that its hers. So, why is she packing a gun when she goes to the training center? Of course, Bev could be a red herring. Same with the Brothers as the show sure seems to want us to think its them, but we are only half way done.
@@randomhuman19 apparently if you do go to a new time zone the phone automatically converts it to the time zone where you currently are not where you were when the VM came in, but even still the fact that bev knew about the poverty cottage is weird to me. Could totally be a red herring though for sure
I’m thinking all the season one clues are misdirects for the moment. I don’t feel like we’re actually going to get any answers to any of the callback references in this season. With the way its progressing, I feel like the show is only going to have time to solve Sazz’s murder with no time to tie it all in to season one lose ends before the season finale. It seems like we’ll get smaller clues from Sazz’s desk that it’s all connected, but none of that will fit or factor in anywhere until season 5 when there’s another murder to solve.
@@Jinxed222 unfortunately I think that's probably the case as well. Sure maybe the finale may tee us up for some other mystery that's more overarching and maybe something sazz even knew about but there's so much going on it's hard to imagine how we are halfway done already
I really like the idea that Sazz wrote the script and it was stolen. Marshall being involved in stealing the script seems to be a strong motive. But I also think most of the Hollywood plot seems to be a misdirect and will end up being irrelevant like in season one with the Demas grave robbing side plot that ended up having nothing to do with the actual murder. Why introduce the westies and the ham radios? That could be the misdirect but it seems like we’re meant to forget about all of that as the season goes on and gets more into the Hollywood character story lines.
Linking it all together, I could see Marshall as a potential stuntman and also the previous tenant in the Dudenoff apartment. That gives him a potential connection to Sazz, the concussions bar and therefore by extension Glenn, as well as the arconia, which could be the initial reason he’s so obsessed with the podcasters in the first place. Helga might also be a stunt person who has a connection to Concussions. Maybe Helga and Rudy were dating but after Rudy met Marshall through her, they bonded over both being broke frauds and killed Sazz to make money off her script. Helga figured it out and was like nope and got the hell out of there, which ties in the westie/Helga angle.
It’s possible Rudy and Marshall are working together after having met each other through Helga, with her possibly being the person to mention Sazz’s script idea in the first place, and the other westies are just innocent bystanders who like to play a nice game of cards over toilet ham.
Helga could’ve known and liked Sazz and didn’t want her to end up dead which is why she sounded so concerned over the ham radio. I could also easily see her being the last Dudenoff apartment resident, and when she found out about what Rudy and Marshall were plotting, she left immediately (possibly leaving the pig behind because it’s hard to take them on planes or clear customs or something) and they just used her apartment as the place to shoot from because it was empty and they knew the code to get it. Now if I could only fit Howard into this theory….
@@Jinxed222 Howard is and always will be the wild card 😂 I like your theory though! I definitely failed to mention the fact that perhaps Marshall lived in NYC before becoming a writer so he could have been friends or had connections with the westies for sure
For the time zones thing…your phone adjusts the time to whatever time zone you are currently in. So even though Bev was in LA the night of the murder, she is in east coast time when talking to the trio at the cottage so her phone would show the voicemail in east coast time. It seems like she has an iPhone and this automatically happens when you travel to various time zones. Nerds At Nite channel also confirmed that but I know from traveling this is not an inconsistency
@@Jl77794 thank you for clarifying this! Me and my Google pixel are not privy to such things 🥺😭
Does that apply to old voicemails already received though? Definitely new voicemails after the time zone change, but does that change dates and or times on voicemails that you received before you switched time zones? Like, you still received it at 11:07 pm on a Thursday, so does that change like a week after the fact? I’ve never paid attention to if my voicemail received times change on old messages when I switch time zones, but it doesn’t feel like they do. I can’t seem to find a single clear answer anywhere online though.
@@Jinxed222 my friend has an iPhone we are going to test it later before the new episode, will let you guys know of our experiment results :)
I think actually, per your theory, that the idea of Glen being the target at the end of the episode actually points to Marshall being a killer 👀 Notice how Glen changes his tone when he realizes that he slipped his tongue when openly recognizing Marshall. Marshall knew he couldn’t be trusted with secrets, and so he killed him.
@@Nick-db1zp could definitely be the case! It is sus to me that Marshall is clearly shown walking away at the end of this episode and we do not see him in the moments before the shot, but I still question why he didn't just kill sazz in LA
Because Glenn says "when'd you grow the beard, LASSIE" (not laddie), I think he was genuinely confusing Marshall for Mabel. Honestly a good joke since the only other time he has encountered the guys was the day prior when they were with Mabel. Also speaks to Glenn not being mentally sound or having a great memory as a result of multiple concussions.
@@shannonmayes2294 it's definitely hard to tell sometimes what is a joke and what isn't on this show, I think I'd agree with you if it wasn't for Marshall's face who looked not confused but a little freaked out by Glenn. Could have been the accent spooking him though because it's still bad lol!
They may have encountered each other as stunt men, and all that that implies. But even if Marshall recognized Glen, Glen wasn't connecting those same dots. It Marshall stole his script, he would be relieved to not be recognized.
Your predictions (which I love) sparked a couple random and potentially unhelpful ideas. 💡(Warning: I’m still sleepy after a late night, so these thoughts may seem more brilliant to me than they actually are. 😉)
- TH-cam sent me down a Jin Ha (Marshall’s actor) rabbit hole this weekend by recommending a video of his AWESOME performance of “Wait For It” from Hamilton. 🤩 I knew nothing of this guy before Only Murders, but his background is Broadway - and one of
his relatively recent roles was in a well-known play (I won’t share the name to hopefully avoid spoilers), in which is character believably masquerades as a woman. Now, connecting that to this show, I followed Charles’ assumption that Glen mistook Marshall for Mabel because he called him “lass.” But you’re right - that IS an assumption and Marshall DID look freaked out, so…What if Glen knew Marshall as a woman? In fact, building off the theories you shared that Marshall was or is a stuntman, what if he always doubles for women, just as Sazz always doubles for men?? Regardless, let it be known as well that this actor also has experience handling a gun (from his role in Hamilton).
- Also, I totally agree with your theory that Glen was shot, but my mind went a bit of a different direction with it: What if the target was actually Oliver, and these killings aren’t specific to Sazz and Charles, but to the trio (and these killer(s) are just dumb, I guess, and missed their intended targets twice), which is what sends the three fleeing to Charles’ sister’s house in Episode 7, before an attempt can be made on Mabel? 🤔
And I can’t leave without mentioning Clue! 😃 The “number of bullets” discussion is one of my favorite bits in the entire film! (Or fill-um, as Glen would say. ☺️) My cousin and I watched Clue together about a billion times, and we’d quote “1+2+2+1” at every remotely available opportunity. ❤ (Incidentally, she’s now married to a guy who doesn’t find the movie funny, so we’ve decided you either get it or you don’t. 😊) And it never occurred to me that Clue must be where I, too, picked up the knowledge / assumption that guns hold six bullets. 😄 Learning about life from the movies. 😉
@@Jillian_Paige okay first of all, who doesn't find clue funny??? That's a thunderbolt badge right there!
I also really like your theory about Marshall, would make a lot of sense and give context to some of his weird reactions to things in this episode! I have also heard this actor is absolutely amazing in other things so I'm looking forward to checking those out as well at some point :)
@@kitkatz3859 I knew you’d share our dismay. In fairness to my cousin, she wasn’t aware of this thunderbolt badge-worthy character flaw until after they married. 😉
And yes, regardless of whether any of our theories turn out to be true, I’m really rooting for Marshall to be a murderer, just to see Jin Ha does with that. ☺️
@@Jillian_Paige I do think the fact that they picked someone who was in Hamilton and has such a big reputation for the role tells me he's gotta be somewhat important in this story, so either way I'm excited to see what he does for the rest of the season!
@@kitkatz3859I too adore Clue! I have a theory that Marshall has a twin sister who is the stunt double. That’s why Glen said “lass” - Marshall then realized Glen knows his sister (who stole the script from Sazz)
@@uvajenny another person with impeccable taste in movies🫡 love the idea with a secret twin and would fit perfectly into the seasons theme. Bet anything that Marshall's hypothetical twin won't be as insufferable as the brothers sisters!
When your phone travels into a different time zone all of the timestamps update to that current time zone. Bev was standing in Paradise New Jersey, so it read 11:07 PM.
@@tressexpress3366 I did have my friend test this on his iPhone and you're right!
I really like your thoughts that the chaos is intentional to misdirect and confuse. But I worry they are doing that too well 😂
@@emilys3757 totally agree lol when the chaos becomes an obstacle instead of an asset we now have a problem
I cannot wait to watch your for S4 episode 6 💥
Just filmed the first half yesterday and it's already going to be chaotic 😭😂
Turning on dark mode! You deserve 2 Stella Stars just for that 😂
@@meghanallen9978 idk why I didn't do it sooner, my eyes aren't pulsing out of my head after editing like they usually are 😂😂😂
It seems like was one of those late 80s type mystery shows 80s 90s one with the old man the one to go like a Matlock type show
@@kaiwancallender2761 I love that and I think the show channeling that energy especially to invoke a brazzos-esque vibe is amazing
If we were to go off my theory about Scott Bakula and Joy I think Joy could have shot somebody at the end of this episode. She could be the one doing all the make up behind the scenes for some of the characters in the movie, she could have shot one of the guys playing Charles so that his position would need a replacement and Scott could be that replacement. That could bring Scott back into the picture in future episodes
Definitely would be a fun way to explore the idea of two culprits working together, I just don't know if we have enough info pointing to either of them yet. That said we have another half of the season to go so can't rule anyone out yet!
I want it to be Bakula so badly! I’m still holding out hope he’s the moriarty even though it’s unlikely.
I miss that ep 1 Mabel outfit 😭
@@jenm1 I just realized I wore a similar yellow sweater to work today, must be a subconscious thing 😭 all I need are the red beats!
@@kitkatz3859bet it still looked super cute 🥰
For the hour of Sazz’s call I just think that Bev’s phone is showing the New York hour since she’s in New York right now
@@louca12_ I did test this with my friend with an iPhone and you're right!
going back to the title of episode 1, that movie had a lot to do with land rights. who inherits this property from Sazz? since the FBI is involved im wondering if there is some sort of fraud involved. also is cookie the person she cant get untangled from since cookie is on the murder board? in next weeks title, that movie is about a photographer who takes pictures of people in a park. when he blows them up, it looks like pictures from a murder scene.
@lisa-lisa-lisa the fact that this season is all movie titles is very fun and I have to think there's gotta be a clue to that somewhere. As for cookie I think it could be relevant for sure especially since they went to the trouble of getting a picture of cookie so we may end up seeing her!
Glen calls Marshal lassie.
Is Marshal trangender? That's why he can't grow facial hair? Maybe he was a stuntwoman, not a stuntman, which is why Glen thinks Marshal is a lassie, not a laddie because he knew her as a stuntwoman. The weights could be to change a feminine physique to look masculine.
He also compares his stand up act as Jonathan Winters meets Ali Wong (interesting to compare himself to a woman)
@@dugferd2266 I think that's a really interesting theory! Would also explain why specifically Charles assumed he meant Mabel because lassie is more for a female not a male. Love that idea!
@@kitkatz3859 in his monologue he mentions Ace Ventura, the plot of which features a gender switch.
@@dugferd2266 another great thing to note! Looking back this makes quite a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing this!
@@kitkatz3859 just a quick question, where did the "Marshal may have worked in stunts" idea come from, was it just that Marshal seemed familiar to Glen in the soda bread scene? Are there some other references that directly support his/her doing stunts? I don't think it changes the new gender idea, because Glen may have met the previous Marshal in some other capacity, though stuntwork would help include Sazz in that circle and the whole means for the script stealing idea.
@@dugferd2266it was the dumbbells in his apartment in the beginning and the over dramatic way of falling in the penthouse.
Season 4 has ADHD and I kinda love it ^^
@@gigidi9983 as a person with adhd I can relate to the sheer chaos that is this season 😂
The viewers are being being Tarantino-ed by the writers of OMITB, season 4. There so many loose ends and seemingly random events happening.
@@matthew393 I'm with you, this season has been way more challenging than last to cover because it's hard to make sense of it all. I guess it's a difference from what we got last time which is nice but still!
A theory I have for one of the red herrings, there are bound to be many 😂.
Both shootings are committed within the apartment and premises, the bullet hole in both glass windows is the red herring. 😅
@@OMG21ization it did occur to me potentially that bev using that gun was important because maybe it was used somehow to kill sazz or something, they did focus on it a lot. I think it's definitely a valid theory for sure!
This season is very confusing. It is like we didn’t know who the murderer is putting in to get a good idea with the person of the murders. All of the murders are at all time as we knew all the suspect, but not all the murderers. K-1 comes out😅
@@kaiwancallender2761 like I said, this season lowkey feels like a really funny yet persistent concussion lol I love it but also making videos about it is lowkey maddening to not have it be a totally confusing mess!
I did watch triple speed that’s why I didn’t notice it the time😅 see you later on the flip
@@kaiwancallender2761 I love that for you lol my adhd brain would be typing my notes too slow hahaha
As my ever supportive parents always say to me, are you even good enough to have imposter syndrome?
I'll fight your parents you're amazing!
Love your thoughts about the intern....if sazz wrote the script wouldn't she and bev know each other? We need the show to flashback the party so we can see why sazz went for the wine - that will be a huge indicator of who is victim and answer lots of questions.. Still not completely letting go of charles in coma theory... paradise, hells kitchen, oh hell game. He is so introspective this season and Oliver and Mabel seem to be (as you said of mabel) repeating themes of themselves. Just saying...
@@molliekatz432 my point was that sazz wrote it but didn't submit it, which is why Marshall was able to do it and take credit and bev didn't know about any of it. I also like the creativity with the whole Charles in a coma idea but it seems like that may make things really convoluted, kinda like Roseanne finale where it was all a dream
@@kitkatz3859 I agree about the coma thing but this season has a really strange vibe to it for me.
@@molliekatz432 could be all the bathroom related cuisine!
I think either the brother sisters ordered on a writer and Charles son or daughter that’s my theory is trying to kill him in somewhere or break ex-girlfriend of Charles Charles I think reference to the studio because they close it down that studio real life
I definitely could see this being not Charles Mabel and Oliver as the target, but they'll of course think they are because everyone is dressed like them. Would love a good secret child twist!
Where is Tobert???
@@madisonfreddie the way we dropped him with quickness and haste this season 😭 like we couldn't even visit him in LA???