Halloween Special: Frankenstein
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- It is a tale. A tale of a man… and a MONSTER!
It's finally time to talk Frankenstein! Part sci fi, part horror, part opinion piece on the dangers of hubris, this classic story reminds us all to appreciate what's really important to us: friends, family, loved ones, and most importantly, NOT creating twisted mockeries of God's creations in an attempt to reach beyond the veil of life itself.
Nnnnnnnow here is a riddle to guess if you can,
sings the tale of Frankenstein!
Who is the monster and who is the man?~
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“Abandoning your science child to the elements because you didn’t get his eye color right”
B-but red
_it was a color unlike any seen before_
Yes! 🤣
I literally just watched that video before this one XD
@@kamille286 Same! Perfect reference!
🤣🤣
Eh, it's not like it was Non-Euclidean.
Wait.
*Everything* is Non-Euclidean.
Wow, Walton really mailed his sister a 280 page novel.
Margaret is at the end of the world’s longest and weirdest gossip chain.
@@RonnieFlare17 Margaret: Let's see if Mary Shelley (an old friend of mine) would like to write this? It's a splendid idea of a read.
Hands down favorite part of the book is imagining Margaret back in England just processing all the shit this random letter from her brother just threw at her.
The real mystery in this story is why he has so much paper. What was he planning to do with it? Does he write these long letters to her often?
It's OK I'm sure she loved it. Literally me and my sis sending each other novels of our shit day at work via text. 😅😅🙂🙂
Fun fact: The reason all modern interpretations of Frankenstein's monster are green, is because during the era of black and white movies, if you wanted an actor to look very pale, like corpse pale, you would paint them mint green, because mint green translates white in black and white film. All artistic depictions of Frankenstein's monster before colored film was invented had much more human skin tones, until colored behind the scenes photos of Boris Karloff painted green were released, and people thought that the monster was meant to be green, and that image stuck ever since.
You're welcome for that wacky anecdote to share at Halloween parties.
Look at that! How interesting!
Thanks for the info! 💜
Similar to how Godzilla wasn't meant to be green at first, he was grey. It wasn't until some of the posters for the films started coloring him green that he started being thought of as that color, a change that stuck once the series left the black and white film world and started coming out in color.
@@VegetaLF7 Godzilla was supposed to be black in the original, his skin was supposed to look burnt, and he has never been green in the colour films (except for the first American catoon).
The living room of the Adams Family also was painted a particular shade of Salmon to get that odd pale color and lighting.
ah, that explains why all the walls on sitcoms that transitioned from black and white to color were painted the same odd shade of green...
I find Frankensteins monster to be one of the most tragic and depressing characters in fiction.
He was born only to be abandoned by his creator, his ugly appearance giving him no chance to get sympathy. From the beginning of his life he was treated like a monster and had to figure out the most basic of survival skills. The worst part is he got to observe what a loving family looked like and learned how to feel sympathy and compassion, only to have no one every give it to him in return despite his attempts to make a connection or act in kindness. He has no identity other than him being a monster that no one likes and is truely alone in the world. Not only does the creature KNOW what he is missing, but he KNOWS he will always be alone, all while fully emotionally aware of his inner torment. He makes the awful decision and kills his creators family purely for revenge and realizes at the end he has truely brought nothing but suffering upon the earth he found beautiful, thus fulfilling his status as a monster, and giving him no chance for retribution.
Parts of his self loathing monologues have actually been relatable to me when I had depressive episodes, so it really hits hard.
Also imagine if growing up you only ever read three books throughout your whole childhood and one of them was _The Sorrows of Young Werther_
@@GSBarlev Ah, yes, the book that was so popular with young English lovesick men who had no chance at winning their love hearts, so they killed themselves in the same way as the protagonist and left the book on the nightstand so often that a law was passed to ban the book. No wonder the monster was so overtly dramatic.
See, I don’t see it as revenge- it’s war. It’s for survival i. From the eyes of a being that’s been brutalised and he starts fighting back.
Mary Shelley really flexed on all of us by writing a classic when she was EIGHTEEN.
Inspired by a nightmare she had, no less. Plus, it was in the early 19th century.
You could take it as the inverse though. The greatest work of Mary Shelley was completed when she was only 18 so she never managed to reach that peak again. Personally, I'd rather only construct my magnum opus when I'm old.
you can also take it as an example that you're never too young to write a masterpiece (or make one by other means) and never to underestimate yourself because sometimes all you need is to show it to someone
Maybe the most important take away is that age, old, young, or anywhere between, is not an indicator of competence and capability.
Apparently the Metro 2033 novel was made when Dmitri Glukhovsky was 18.
It wasn't just the eyes.
If I remember the book correctly, the monster's supposed to look like a gaunt, jaundiced corpse. But one that has what should be beautiful features, like his proportions, his flowing black hair, and his pearly white teeth.
Basically, Victor was upset that his beautiful man, that he made out of literal dead people, ended up looking like he was made out of dead people. He probably should've thought that one through.
Seriously tho.
That's what you get when you don't refrigerate or preserve your corpses during the year it takes to build your Beautiful Undead Man.
What was he expecting? he literally stitched a bunch of dead rotting body parts together and brought it to life
@@Creator_indy I know, right? What the fuck, Victor?
So what I wanna look like
Victor: eeehhhhh, from aFar you look pretty Hot but up close you look like a dead guy. fuuuuuuu'
Long story short: Victor is ashamed of his first OC.
Aren't we all? ;)
Though only the talented few can physically manifest their first OC
AsterOrca He was practically ashamed of ALL his OC's, he killed his second one for thinking she may be a Mary Sue in the future, making the first OC want to kill him.
Seriously though, I feel like making a weird fanfic from this story, except it's not a scientist and it ain't Victo-Goth and Sci-Fi. Instead, it's a modern character designer who wants to be famous!
We've all been there
I was ashamed of mine, I know feel bad
Fun Fact: the Creature of Frankenstein is a giant because Victor said working with skinny little veins was too tiresome so he got bigger body parts to make it easier. This of course made his creation much more terrifying as it was a giant.
I mean, tall people are already kinda scary, so now imagine this hulking 7'11" man with a raven dark mane, pearly white teeth, almost no body fat (so his olive/parchment colored skin looks tight around his muscles) and with really creepy eyes, and tell me that you wouldn't freak out if you saw him at night
I know several people who work in the medical field, and have had to have my blood drawn fairly frequently. I've been told that large, firm veins are the easiest to work with. I have these veins.
@@metarcee2483I will use your veins for my own version of Frankenstein's experiment.
@@melvinfranco2142 that's the most disturbing sentence I've ever heard in my life.
@@metarcee2483 Thank you.
"Only a fool makes a monster you can't fu-"
Best line ever.
HE SAID IT!
Can you give the timestamp? I can't see it
@@elirchi9214
11:00
HAHAHAHAHAH I NEVER NOTICED THAT GOOD GOD
*true*
This could have become a sitcom if he didnt abandon his monster
I know you were probably thinking buddy sitcom with Victor and the Monster, but all I could picture the premise being was Victor frantically trying to hide the Monster from his perky boyfriend Clerval.
Some one should make that
@@CJCroen1393 so like how to train your dragon number one??
New in Town
Frankenstein's Monster's New in Town
@@ninjabluefyre3815 I was literally just watching John Mulaney. Are you stalking me? Lol
Imagine a version of this story where Clerval shows up as soon as the monster opens his eyes and insists to Victor that they raise him, basically becoming the Good Dad to Victor's Deadbeat Dad
To think Clerval was LESS THAN A DAY LATE to the Creation is insane!!
He was literally just hours away!!
The story would have been SO diferent!
OMG
i´m gonna make a comic about this idea, it´s great!
*khm* do you permit?
@@molotovmafia2406 when'll it be out
@@QQ-dw9pl idk, i´m starting it tomorrow... maybe a week or 2 but i don´t promise anything
Irina K. Can’t wait to see it!
Mary Shelley wrote an iconic science fiction book at 18, I'm just here looking at internet memes.
Mary Shelley lost her virginity on her mother's grave. You will never be as goth as Mary Shelley.
Okay
wrote THE iconic science fiction, first novel that the plot is derived from science
and charles darwin (yeah, THAT guy, you know, the natural selection one) not only read the book, he commented how it would be possible to be factual in the future, how creating artificial human life
just to hammer it in, SCIENCE FICTION WAS PIONEERED BY A WOMAN
Joshua Evans-Lowell really?
there was more unexplored stuff back then. But we're just in time for dank memes at least!
I found Frankensteins' monster yelling "Woob woob woob" after killing Elizabeth far funnier than I should have.
Honestly, I wouldn’t mind a sort of modern retelling of Frankenstein where Victor is like, a modern college student going threw is quarter life crisis and Frankenstein’s monster is like a startup he’s really into making.
You mean kinda like the Re-Animator?
MagnetoDorito Ah yes.
I give to you "Facebook".
That's what The Social Network was, wasn't it?
It actually exist. Check out the webseries "Frankenstein MD." Its made by the guys behind The Lizzie Bennet Diaries, and its the most accurate Frankenstein adaptation I've ever seen.
"No one can write a story about an unnatural, murderous monster and paint them in a sympathetic light successfully."
Mary Shelley: "Hold my tea."
Yes but more like "hold my laudanum"
And thus proves them wrong.
Not so fun fact, Mary Godwin(her name before Shelley) wrote Frankenstein based on her mother( Mary wollstonecraft)'s letters to wollstonecraft's 1st husband Imlay after he abandoned her and Mary Shelley's older sister Fanny, ah and the lightning thing comes from the fact that shelly's deranged husband was obsessed by Benjamin Franklin's electricity and how it affected life, even though shelly thought it could do more than it actually could.
@@leos.2322 Didn't know that. Ty for the trivia
@@Azzabackam willkommen
The three basic classical monster are werewolves, vampires and Frankenstein’s monster
Mummy: Am I a joke to you?
Maybe it's a lack of me reading or watching much media (I mostly play games), but I don't ever recall mummies ever really having any feelings or personality. They seem to be more or less zombies, but with toilet paper all over.
Awkward Birb zombies are the mainstream version of the mummies
In short? Yes.
@@awkwardbirb5710 its cloth not toilet paper
*Skeletons ribbing in the distance*
Honestly, I relate to Mary Shelley here: sometimes you have no fucking clue how to tell a story so you just keep making stories in stories in stories and forget how to wrap it up because, oh yeah, this all started with a guy writing letters to his sister and became a tale about an egotistical college student/dead-beat dad.
There's some evidence that Mary Wrote the whole thing in a really short time, more likely in a creative rush all in a row, only looking back to make some corrections here and there, later.
I think it's more like Scheherazade in 1001 Nights! That woman made shit up as she went on every night for 3 years and in the meantime she became queen and saved who knows how many lives.
@@wandanemer2630 Actually, Mary, her husband Percy, and Lord Byron were holidaying off of Lake Geneva. It was, however, 1816 and is known as the Year Without a Summer. They spent most of their time in doors telling German ghost stories to each other and Byron suggested a contest where they all write their own. Byron's was never finished but is one of the earliest English lit vampire stories.
The hair truning half grey and the art the way of explaining is amazing to the finest details
that is actually somewhat realistic as stress and exhaustion can cause grey hair
Victor's scientific hubris created the Creature, but it was his own treatment of it that created the Monster.
And that's because he creates him based on modern scientific views but judges him based on medieval views. The conflict in Victor's mind is the conflict between modern and medieval worldviews.
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Beautiful articulation 🙏😇
Wrote your words and name...you will be quoted a lot in the future
I honestly would’ve laughed so hard if Frankenstein’s friend just drunkenly became best friends with the monster when he tried to murder him.
Somewhat feel like making an AU where the monster talks with Clerval before trying to kill him and actually gets the respect and affection he needs in the form of a new friend, causing him to live a somewhat nice life instead of trying to get back at Viktor.
Wasabi 0013 please do
@@Wasabi-rs5lv I... I need this AU... I NEED THE SUNSHINE FRIEND TO SHARE THE JOY WITH THE POOR BAB
YOU KNOW WHAT.
THAT IS A FUCKING GREAT IDEA AND NOW I NEED IT.
Clerval: "D-dude, you look--"
Monster: "Terrifying, yes, I know--"
Clerval: "--LIKE YOU COULD USE A DRINK, MAN!"
Monster: "W-what?"
Clerval: "Let's hit the pub circuit and get fucked up! It'll put some color in your face!"
Monster: "What is this I don't even"
Clerval: "WOO!"
* FOUR HOURS LATER *
Monster: "--and then my creator just ran away screaming!"
Clerval: "Dude, that's... that's just... it's terrible... you deserved so much better. Have another whiskey, it'll be okay."
Monster: "I BELIEVE YOU"
The fact that this story scared the piss out of Lord Bryon just makes it more fun to read
"Do you want a tombstone that says He lived for centuries or do you want one that says For centuries he was alive"
@@traviskopplinger3515 "return to the gutter"
I would like to think part of that fright was a bit of unrealized recognition. Byron was sort of a self absorbed dick and Shelly using him as a base wouldn't be out of possibility.
@@lissaquon607 might be a subconscious thing since Mary dreamt of the whole thing and then wrote it. It’s plausible ig
I love how many times Red throws in the Byronic Contemplation shots. References!
I always interpreted the Monster's final speech as more of a desperate attempt to make Walton understand him. He KNOWS that he's become the monster everyone expected him to be but he wants to at least make Walton understand that he didnt start out that way. So he's making a plea for his past self.
Everybody with me: "Knowledge is knowing Frankenstein isn't the monster; wisdom is knowing Frankenstein is the monster."
This gem of a quote ^
@@bugra6798 I actually think it's a bad quote. Victor Frankenstein is a shitty dude all around, but Frankenstein's Monster murdered no fewer than three people and framed a fourth for one of those deaths, leading to her death. The monster is not the dumb brute so often depicted, the monster is incredibly brilliant. He doesn't get off the hook because he has daddy issues, mofo is still a seriel killer with a vendetta.
That's some neat comment dude
@@jaferalyhooda310 I see your point, but consider this: the Creation knew nothing but scorn, abuse, and loneliness from creation to death. He was kind and compassionate for longer than most humans would be: paying back the Delacy family with chopped wood and manual labour for the food, for example. He craves human connection. He was unfortunately shaped by circumstances. Victor Frankenstein was a narcissistic, self-centered dude who pittied only himself even in situations that had absolutely nothing to do with him/affected others way more, like when Justine died and all he could focus on was how bad *he* felt, ignoring the feelings of those around him, like Elizabeth. He can't even fathom the monster killing anyone but him leading up to his wedding. Look at their final moments: Victor is almost raving, probably not thinking clearly, but he tries to get the Captain to make the same mistake as him, going too far in the name of science, despite telling the story to prevent that in the first place. He renounces all claim of guilt and responsibility for his actions, saying "I am blameless". The Creature on the other hand regrets the choices he'd made. He doesn't make excuses (I think, my memory is a touch fuzzy). He accepts blame for things that were his fault, and says he will kill himself in a way that destroys his body to ensure that no-one makes the same mistake as Victor by stumbling across his remains. Also, I would argue that Victor is very much to blame for the actions of his creation. For one thing, it's *his* creation. He didn't take responsibility, he didn't allert the police right away, or try to actually do anything with the creature once it rose, he abandoned it. Parents are held partially responsible for their children's actions, and that concept applies even moreso when it comes to such an irresponsible parent as Victor.
Cool motive. Still murder.
The “scary” eyes you gave Frankenstein honestly made him pretty hot
Frankenstein's monster.
@@tanyanikolaevagizdova6571 seriously? You know he is technically a Frankenstein. He's basically Victor's kid so he would get Victor's last name.
@@tanyanikolaevagizdova6571 there is a movie about this type of Frankenstein's monster where he fights demons with gargoyles....weird I know but it is a good movie it is called
i, frankenstein
@@stormthanatosokami4221 It's a fun movie. I've watched it.
@@JaneDoeSignedHancock That has never crossed my mind but it does make sense.
I'm not sure the book describes the monster as beautiful but with creepy eyes. The eyes are creepy, yes, but the book also states that the skin of the monster is pulled so taunt that the features are almost immpossible to see and one can even notice its veins under it.
Also, my favorite part of the book will always be how the monster describes what it was like for him to see and feel everything for the first time. The way Shelly portrays it its amazing.
Yes! The monster seeing the moon was pretty cool
Red also describes the monster as" viscerally disturbing " .
This is the "It was considerd a human killing monster but we made it into sexy humans with superpowers (vampires,werewolves,etc.)" rule only in reverse.
I like your name
Paradise Lost is the originator, though.
Exactly what i thought at the end xD
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Witches apply to the same reverse rule as this.
Donato di Niccolò di Betto Bardi perhaps
When I read the story Victor never came off as a bad man. What he was, was a WEAK man. He kept wanting to do the right thing, but every single time he was scared off or it was too hard for him. I did find him sympathetic as I saw him as a basically good man who got himself way, way over his head and just couldn't bring himself to do the hard things that were necessary. As for the monster I actually felt sympathy for him too. One important detail that got left out here, Victor's brother, the first person he ever deliberately harms. After being constantly rejected and attacked and abandoned he approaches the boy trying to befriend him. He STILL just wants to be accepted. But the boy is scared and mentions exactly who he is, at which point the monster pretty much snaps and decides to get some pay back. Yes, he knows murder is evil, and he is deliberately cruel. But it's hard not to sympathize at least a little when literally not one person he meets shows him even a scrap of kindness.
Nelson Chereta Victor is weak, yes. That tended to make him even worse when I read it. Weak men have always done far more harm than bad men
To be fair, William was a right little snot who pushed all of the monsters buttons about not having a father figure...
Sayem Well... Who would've thought Moral Luck would be so thoroughly supported here.
Slim, you are wrong. Just as the horror wrought by Herbet West eclipse the mistakes of Victor Frankenstein, so do the cruelties of evil men eclipse the mistakes of weak ones.
Well that blind man was still nice, but I think that's supposed to mean that we usually judge people based on how they look. Not being able to see a person makes us usually more accepting, or less depending on the person.
i know that Frankenstein is the doctor and then his monster is usually specified as not Frankenstein, but i like to think that since the monster was created by the doctor, the monster is kinda Frankenstein's kid, therefore surname Frankenstein. so i let it slide when people get in technically wrong
That's okay.
Still, however, Victor's not a doctor. He droped out of college in like his second year.
Victor isn't a doctor. He's a college dropout. Should be called Mr. Frankenstein
victor purposefully didn't give his monster his last name
because he was too disgusted
@@elirchi9214 So, if the creature goes to college and becomes a doctor, he would then be Dr Frankenstein?
@@vogonp4287 The creature would, if only Victor actually liked his creation enough to give it his last name.
“Crimes Against Nature 2: Electric Boogaloo” is an absolutely glorious quote.
* Don't *
‘Ihgt, I’ll go tell Gil’s puppy to add a few more things to that list
More like “crimes against nature 2: electric boobaloo” am I right???
…. I’ll see myself out
@@AskMia411 “Victor prepares to recreate the biggest mistake of his life but with boobs this time.”
@@Excelsior1937 Exactly!
I really want a Frankenstein adaptation that's just Walton's sister reading the entire book in letter form with a giant glass of wine and a bowl of popcorn and making snarky comments about it.
Walton is the only character smart enough to actually realize the situations he’s in.
It was actually his crew that wanted out of that expedition AFTER some of them died...
"Victor spends about ninety percent of this book wasting away from stress and misery"
same
Actualy the moral of the story is be a good parent.
Most people think it has to do with "don't let science go to far", but it is rather deal with the consequences of your actions.
@Celia Lazuli Well when you think about it, the creature never caused a problem on the sole basis of "existing." It got abused and mistreated by a cruel unfair world and lashed out as a consequence
OK, so the moral is actually, "World, be nice to science."
The moral is varying shades of "ffs don't be a dick
"I'm alone *and* friendzoned!" "I'm alone *and* this creep thinks I owe him sex!" LOL.
Lol
Laugh out loud (btw i'm not old just for saying it like that)
The fact victor had a single unselfish brainwave that making a female and assuming shed like him shows he actually could have fixed things if he stopped being a blasted jerk. And that he was amart
Lol
@@OriginalAkivara or do as I do and don't stop licking her until ALL the sugar is gone.
"Shelley described Frankenstein's monster as an 8-foot-tall (2.4 m) creature of hideous contrasts:
His limbs were in proportion, and I had selected his features as beautiful. Beautiful! Great God! His yellow skin scarcely covered the work of muscles and arteries beneath; his hair was of a lustrous black, and flowing; his teeth of a pearly whiteness; but these luxuriances only formed a more horrid contrast with his watery eyes, that seemed almost of the same colour as the dun-white sockets in which they were set, his shrivelled complexion and straight black lips."
He was definitely not beautiful. Viktor was just FUCKING CRAZY.
Also. He was 8 feet fucking tall.
Meaning he probably had multiple different leg segments grafted.
He was a hideous monster. "His limbs were in proportion"
Fucking in what world did he find legs that could make someone 8 feet or even a body like that???
Said before, I'll say it again:
WHAT THE FUCK WAS VICTOR EXPECTING THE CREATURE TO LOOK LIKE, when he made him like *this.*
@@wandanemer2630 Víctor would be an excellent politician lol.
I read it as a case of someone being so wrapped up in their work, they didn't realize what a mess they were making. He was blinded by the process and couldn't see the result.
@@StCerberusEngel Yeah but that requires a special kind of crazy anyways
@@mythicalthings1796 No argument there. Just a different type of mania.
"Clerval exists, and deserved better" WOW BIG MOOD
Honestly Clerval dying was the worst part. He was just all around a nice guy that only did good for Frankenstein. That was the part that made me angry.
and that is why the monster killed him
And to kill symbolic the innocence in Victors life like lucifer destroyed humanitys innocence. Poor guy.
The book basically described him as really smart, always wanting to be good and making the world a better place, and also really pretty.
If Victor weren’t be acting like a total idiot about it he wouldn’t have died at least him and a couple of the characters there.
And they literally told us he was going to die and then made us watch him be all happy and nice KNOWING HE WAS GOING TO DIE.
HE DIDN'T DESERVE IT
My favorite line from the book is something to the effect of, "In the course of creating my new breed of humanity, I decided to make him 8 feet tall." I find it amusing, because it's a total non sequitur, but it's also kind of emblematic of Victor's character - a self-obsessed moron who makes decisions on a whim without thinking their consequences through.
Contrast with Prometheus, by the way, who is literally the god of foresight.
Sean Murphy Eh, 8 ft sounds good let's just go with it: Frankenstein.
Sean Murphy when my senior class read this, I sure I remembered a line saying it would be easy to make a human on a bigger scale because how intricate muscles and veins are.
As someone who has read the book, my favorite fun fact is that the monster is giant because working on tiny veins n shit hurt Victor's eyes...
"Victor was an awful man" *proceeds to draw Victor as A REALLY HOT DUDE*
"Frankenstein's monster had HIDEOUS EYES" *proceeds to draw hot monster eyes*
i mean im not complaining tho-
ye red does that often
once in a greek myth episode she describes a huge terrifying multi headed snake creature and the ways she draws it is "mermaid but snake instead of fish"
victor was a really hot dude from what I understand though
Yeah, Red likes to do that.
I look exactly like how she draws Victor so hell yeah
Lovin the fma tunes in the backgro- HEY WAIT THEMATIC PARALLEL
I heard shadow of the colossus in the bg as well
Anyone know the song at 7:13?
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Wait, really??????
"What is life? And how can I create it?"
Well, Victor, when a man and a woman love each other very much...
You get the joke.
Technically, that's not creating, that's just reproducing. We don't even have any control over what the result will be (yet).
Victor: "When a man and his kinda-sorta-not-sister are set up by their parents from childhood..."
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@@Alknix genetic engineering (crisper 2.0)
When a man loves himself very much he creates life because he can and immediately drops any pretenses of responsibility for that creature and leaves it to casually kill anyone and everyone he cares about.
5:25 I can definitely see Victor having entire cabinets exclusively full of cup noodles. This is now canon in my eyes.
The "I, Frankenstein" movie is a closer and more true interpretation of Frankenstein in modern media, based on what I came up with after watching the video.
1. He's not called Frankenstein, but he would treat it as his family name, after his creator Victor Frankenstein. He is called Adam in the movie, basically from the part where he treats himself as Victor's "Adam", or his first creation.
2. There was no Bride of Frankenstein, which does lead to the death of Elizabeth, and will leads to Victor's death. The movie starts with "Adam" burying Victor's body, though, not part of the book.
3. Victor Frankenstein's Journal (or more accurate, his notes) is a prominent object in the movie, something a few Frankenstein movies overlook.
4. Like the book, he is depicted in the movie as cruel and calculating, not mindless, was aware of his actions good or bad, and is not technically ugly? (He's the guy who played Two-Face in The Dark Knight movie, of course he looks cool). The only detail not found in the movie is his eye problem (They were fine, not as scary as the book depicted), and the movie depicts his body as full of stitches and scars.
I also love the bit in the end of the video where she points out Gargoyles, and that Gargoyles are a part of the movie, and are at war with Demons. Adam gets mixed up with the Gargoyle/Demon war because he is the key to understanding reanimation, something the Demons want and something the Gargoyles need to protect.
An awesome plot, but an ok movie at best.
I just love the whole fact that there is backstory, to a backstory, to another backstory, to be put in a letters. Where the moral of the story is not to bring something to life to ditch it. In Short don't pull a Victor.
Aevum Alazo I personally think the structure is one of its biggest let downs.
There is no tension hearing Victor's story. And its meant to be a gothic novel. So I am reading whilst knowing where the protagonist will end up. No terror really builds up in me from this book.
becsbabe7465 can't win them all
"Victor decides he wants to make a man"
Victor, there's an easier way to do that
Takes longer, though (to get to the end result of "man"; not the "creating" part)
Maybe it's because he's gay
@@miamafalda1118 the most reasonable explanation, also I'm just scrolling down the comments to randomly find Clerval x Victor comments
@@life_got_real_boring1482 JSAKDHJKS ME. I'm sorry but there's no way that they at least didn't have feelings for each other
Just make Mulan join the army
Monster-- *I am alone, and you made me like this. Fix that and I'll have no reason to hurt you. And.if you don't, I'll kill everyone you love.*
Victor-- *Fine*
Monster-- *Thanks Dad.*
Edit: Who else thinks Red's depiction of Frankenstein's Monster looks cool?
I'd date that Red's version of ther Monster in an instant...Yellow eyes rock!
red's depiction of everything looks cool
Looks awesome and WAY better than Penny Dreadfuls version.
Read the book. Red's description pales. The guy TEACHES HIMSELF HOW TO READ, WRITE, and SPEAK in a manner of MONTHS. Also, the monster wasn't beautify. He was magnificent as a specimen, being the strongest and more enduring of man. BUT, he was hideous to look at Patchwork of grey and green skin, he fricken looked like a walking corpse. That's why everyone who saw him freaked out and either ran off or tried to drive him out of town. His only real friend in the book was the blind old man who couldn't see him, and thus be frightened away by his horror.
The mother kills me though: "We adopted you, because we thought you and Victor would make a great couple. Always remember that I totally ship you two."
Victor: "That is both reasonable and definitely not coercive!"
XD
Anselma Reich Weren't Elisabeth and Victor cousins in the original version?
Jovan Mitrić “Cousins” in the sense that they are part of the same family and are “related” without having the same birth parents.
It’s complicated.
Anselma Reich That, to me, was one of the creepiest parts in the book. Victor was still a child then and his mom was already like, "I'm going to pluck up this blond-haired, too-pretty-to-be-poor little girl like I'm buying a puppy because I as a rich aristocrat can do that, and I'm going to somehow make sure that she and my son fall in love someday." And people wonder where Victor's God complex came from.
Well, in the victorian era that had totally sense. Social status and moral values were very important. When adopting her, they were totally sure about her education, religion and moral values. In a society where arranged marriages were the norm, a custom-made bride was a perfect choice of daughter in law
+Nesseire Oh, I know that sort of thing was the norm back then, it just looks disturbing now, especially given the broader context of the rest of the book.
I'm noticing some weird parallels between Frankenstein and "A.I" art. In both cases something claims to have created something, but instead only patched together something out of things that already exist and the creation is initially beautiful at a glace but then when you look at the details it becomes incredibly uncanny and open a huge can of worms about the ethics of how certain science and technology should be used. In particular the artificial creations being relatively okay now, but the fear of them posing a threat to the natural creations down the line, with the new species of Frankenstein's monsters being analogous to AI art threatening to take the livelihoods of real artists. Just kinda interesting.
Honestly before I read Frankenstein for school I thought I would hate it, since I had never read Gothic fiction before, but I absolutely ADORED it and I cherish the book now. Such an amazing piece of literature, and I actually really liked the creature and Victor as characters. I thought they were very intriguing and all the things you learn about them and from the book in general is incredible. I don't know why I liked the creature and Victor so much to be honest. Maybe it's just kind've the depth to them? How imperfect they are in their words, actions, morals, and intentions, yet still being capable of love, and wanting/deserving happiness. I think it really helped me sympathize with them. Honestly doesn't everyone want the chance to love and to have happiness, no matter how flawed and "evil" they are? I just find it so sad that Victor and the Monster weren't able to achieve happiness. Victor lost everyone he loved because of himself and his choices, and the creature felt so out of place from the world, an outcast from all of mankind, and that he didn't choose to be created and had to live in said world, which resulted in him essentially committing suicide since he couldn't bear it, especially bearing it alone. He didn't have anyone, and I think it's so sad too, because he could've had love and happiness, he was so close, because he almost won over De Lacey (the blind old man), but it slipped out of his reach when De Lacey's family came in and chased him away. Mary Shelley was an extremely talented author, she taught us many lessons from her book, like to not judge others, to be less selfish, and to be held accountable for your actions, and I find it so mind blowing that she was only 18 when she came up with that masterpiece. Btw, this video made me laugh so hard because, to put into simple and more sarcastic terms, that's exactly what happened XD Also, I agree that Clerval deserved better. I adored him so much, he was such a happy and bright soul. Bless him XD Oh!! And your art style is *i m m a c u l a t e*
My response to reading the part of Clerval taking care of Victor was has he considered nusing school
He definetly had the practical requirements for it
Wait? 4:40
"I Had selected his features to be beautiful" is swiftly followed by a good deal of *but he was repulsive nonetheless*. Yes focused on the eyes but... "shriveled complexion, straight black lips" and "unable to endure the aspect (appearance) of my creation..." a swift turn into.. oops I made an ugly!
And when the sailor dude meets the creature later he describes him as ragged of hair, hand like a mummy's, and "never did i behold a vision so horrible as his face, of such loathsome yet appalling hideousness. I shut my eyes.."
Why do I keep thinking of Marilyn manson now?
Sounds like Victor forgot about the fat deposits in the human body that can fill out all the empty areas of the body that don't take up things like bones, organs, muscle, blood veins and vessels, sinews, tendons, and skin. Such a thing would probably assist "Adam" have a better visage.
Junji Ito’s (yes, _that_ Junji Ito) adaptation of this story is actually really interesting. In it, Victor actually goes through with the creation of Adam’s (the Monster’s) bride. She immediately tries to kill Adam, he immediately crushes her skull, and then blames Victor for luring him into a trap to try to kill him (which he kind of was).
I do love how you drew Victor Frankenstein, I would kill for his hair!
Same!!!
I like the subtle nod of Victor and his creation having similar hair.
Theoretically the monster didn’t have to go down such a dark path. He could have chosen to be nice out of the goodness of his own heart.
Too bad his heart wasn’t his own.
But really... How ARE you even good, when you can't approach or be seen by any other human being, relate or comunicate to anyone, not even to help them... without being attached or chased, since before even learning how to speak?
Being fair, the Creature did look way more horrible than that, in the book, at least in his skin, it did look like that of a corpse. Yellowish, transluscent and barely held together, over a proportionally formed, but stitched and enormous body (8 foot tall!).
And he did try to do kind things multiple times, always ending in the same result.
He helped that family during a lot of his stay, choping wood or hunting for them and leaving it all at the door... but as soon as they saw him... well, you know.
Then he actually saved a little girl from drowning, only to be shot by her father.
And he actually tried to BEFRIEND William at first, but Willie called him revolting and such, bragged about being the son of a minister, and so he could have the Creature arrested and hanged in no time. Only then, after saying something about being a Frankenstein, the already-about-to-snap Creature finally lost it and killed him to get back at Victor. Then framed Justine, and showed himself a bit so Victor would figure it out and go to meet him.
Even then, he tried to reason with Victor and appeal to his humanity (good luck with that). But he gave up after realizing it was a lost cause, so he went and threatened him for good (with the worst punishement he knew: to be left alone in the world, with no one to love and no one to love you).
The Creature was *initially* kind by nature. His first actions after being born were to search for Victor, smile at him and try to touch him.
On his first night of life, after being hurt and chased into the woods, the first thing he did was to sit down and weep.
Him becoming cruel and monstruous was a whole process of corruption and resentment that took most of his life. And even after murdering several times, he still suffered for his victims and was disgusted with what he had become. And lamented how he used to see beauty in the world (like Elizabeth), how he would feel inspired by poetry and literature (like Clerval, by the way) and how he was once glowing with love.
But by the end he "realized" a Heartless Unloved Demon was all he could have or ever would be able to be. That he now WAS abominable, and he was doomed to a miserable lonely existense, so the only thing he could do now was do the world a favor and die.
The Creature's fall from grace is terribly tragic, mostly beacuse, despite him having been born innocent like we all do, you know he was kind of doomed from the start. He was BROUGHT into this world without a family or nobody to care for him, MADE to be huge, deformed and terrifying, already fully formed, and left alone in a XVIII century small town full with strangers who would inmediately try to kill him.
HE AND HE ALONE MADE THE CONCIOUS CHOICE TO BECOME A MONSTER, but on the other hand, he never really was given the chance to be good.
He tried to be good and kind but was met time and time again with violence, people never gave him a chance and called him a "monster" and "evil" at first sight, so he started to hate the world that had always hated him.
"𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘭𝘥 𝘱𝘶𝘴𝘩𝘦𝘴 𝘶𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘤𝘺, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘱𝘶𝘴𝘩 𝘣𝘢𝘤𝘬, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘭𝘥 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘤𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘴, '𝘌𝘷𝘪𝘭'"
@@wandanemer2630 Sadly, there are people who are in a similar situations. The only real difference between the monster and humans is the method of his creation.
@@vogonp4287 Very true.
@@torivar4838 Ability to accept or forgive failure has no bearing on being human.
I've had far too much experience working with (and/or for) people who are completely unable or unwilling to accept their own failures while constantly bemoaning the failing of others.
BUT THEN EVERYTHING CHANGED WHEN THE EDUCATION SYSTEM ATTACKED
I understood that reference !
Personally i never thought of Frankenstein as a horror book. Sure it has a spooky undead man, but it seems more like a Greek style tragedy more than horror to me.
A lot of older horror stories had a tendency to look inward for their horror. The horror comes more from examination of humanity and how we behave by pointing out our flaws and in some cases made popular by H.P. Lovecraft, horror can also be strongly based in our insignificance both as individuals and as a race compared to the vast unknowable universe. In that sense old horror is equal parts horror and greek tragedy.
MechaKnightDX I've noticed that trend too with few exceptions.
Speaking of Loecraft, his Herbert West, Reanimator, is basically Frankenstein as a horror story.
Sorry for jumping into this so late, just wanted to pop in my two cents. Everyone in this thread has a good point about the more internal, tragic style of the “horror” in this book. But I also find some of the descriptions to be viscerally discomfiting, at least to me personally, especially if I’m listening to it as an audiobook instead of physically reading it. Something about the language Shelley uses in each of the encounters between Victor and the Creature, as well as in some of Victor’s contemplative monologues, makes me feel sick to my stomach. I think it’s mainly because Shelley was MASTERFUL in how she used language to really make the reader feel the same sick anxiety that Victor feels, even if it’s because of different reasons. And honestly, the descriptions of the assemblies of the man and lady creatures are pretty graphic for Victorian lit, at least in my experience.
The description the creature's eyes was certainly visceral.
The most unrealistic thing about Frankenstein is the idea that everyone finds him too scary to love, when as we internet-goers all know, there will be SOMEONE out there desperate to love that Big Beautiful Boy
Brienne of Tarth.
@@vvv3055 Well Jaime?
@@dams6829 or actually his sis, didn't she kinda dump him for the Frankenmountain? Oo (k she treathened him with the fm while dumping him but I'm taking some artistic liberty here :p) .
Hentai artists got yo back fam
Lmao tru
12:18 Victor: *dies*
The Monster: "Oh no, not the dickhead! Look-what did you WANT me to say?"
-I'm sorry, I watched the DiVINE videos, and just HAD to post this. I LOVE this scene.
I know death of the author is a thing, but Mary Shelly actually had a really interesting life and worldview that really shines through in Frankenstein. I recommend if you haven’t, giving some of her other works a read. It’s fun
Woman was the daughter of one of history's greatest feminists, married one of England's most beloved poets and was besties with _another_ of its best-loved poets and to this day manages to *outshine them all.*
Literally if I could meet any author ever, it would be her.
It's funny how Victor made his creature with only the finest features and the end result is a little disturbing to look at. This is why mass plastic surgery is never the key, kids!
"And if no man shall mourn for me, I'll trust in you. Amen." - Amen (from Frankenstein: A New Musical)
YES!
HOLY SHIT THERE'S A MUSICAL!!
"Only a fool makes a monster you can't fu-"
-*Creator of cute Japanese Monster Girls*
Wait but he made the first monster
*Aims Japanizing Beam*
Can someone give me the timestamp??
@@elirchi9214
11:00
2:52
But then everything changed when the EDUCATION SYSTEM ATTACKED
I love you, Red
Reeeeeddddd!! You’ve done Dracula, you’ve done Frankenstein, now you gotta complete the trilogy and do Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde!
Eh
Were THOSE the other books written by Mary Shelley's friends during that rainy vacation? I could never remember for certain, but I thought those were them.
It’s not by Mary, it’s by a dude named Robert Stevenson. And I agree that Red should do Jekyll and Hyde! I, admittedly, read it every year when Halloween’s around the corner.
The Invisible Man by G. Wells would be perfect! It's exactly the type of book you can get all sarcastic about!
Alix the Skeleton Ah, I haven’t read that one yet! Seems like a good read, though!
so....everything was great until Victor realized that his creation was hideous causing him to freak out instead of raising the big baby properly, which led to all the tragedies after that. Elizabeth got lucky, not having to live in poverty anymore because of her beauty.
Moral of the story: don't be ugly
Not quite. See, the monster was handsome, but it was disturbing. Something viscerally was wrong with his appearance that triggered a fear response from EVERYONE that met him, not just Victor. As for Elizabeth, in the first edition she was Victor's cousin, and was taken in by her extended family after her parents' deaths.
Basic yah.
He was actually TOO MUCH BEAUTIFUL Victor could'nt handle his looks.
I got the implication that the monster fell into the Uncanny Valley. Basically, he looked enough like a human that all the dissimilarities made him look terrifying.
"His limbs were in proportion, and I had selected his features as beautiful. Beautiful! Great God! His yellow skin scarcely covered the work of muscles and arteries beneath; his hair was of a lustrous black, and flowing; his teeth of a pearly whiteness; but these luxuriances only formed a more horrid contrast with his watery eyes, that seemed almost of the same colour as the dun-white sockets in which they were set, his shrivelled complexion and straight black lips."
I don't think Shelley ever describes the Monster as beautiful, just that Victor intended him to be so. He was so wrapped up in the creation of his "great work" and busy marveling at his own genius that he couldn't see the horror he wrought until the madness of it all passed.
Thank you for remembering Henry Clerval. He really does deserve better.
Here is a riddle, to guess if you can, ring the belles of notre dame
Who is the monster and who is the man?
Victor is the monster, his creation is the man.
Oh damn that's deep
Both Victor and monster are monsters.
Sure, monster did his crimes because he didn't know better, but he still did them. Out of his own will. Continously.
And as much as you can say that if the monster got more humanity taught to him he would've turned out a better person, same could be told of Victor.
I just love how people don’t get the Hunchback of Notre Dame reference (also I’m from the future and one of the Notre dame steeples burned down. The church was on fire like the movie)
sing the bells, the VERY BELLS OF NOTRE DAME
1:35
**record scratch**
you're probably wondering how i got here
It all started on the day of my actual birth....
Knowledge is knowing that Frankenstein is not the monster. Wisdom is knowing that Frankenstein is the monster - this is not without thought
Dinitroflurbenzol That’s what my whole seventh grade class thought after we read Frankenstein!
I was in a public setting while reading the part where Clerval dies, and when I got to it, I had to refrain from screaming. And we've already established that Victor is incredibly lacking in imagination, but while reading Justine's trial and all that, I was thinking, "why can't he just point out that Justine's fingerprints aren't that big, so she wasn't the one that killed William"? As for Elizabeth, I couldn't really say she was that interesting, but all three of them were able to stand Victor, so they all deserve some credit.
Fingerprinting as a forensic tool was not employed until 1891, 73 years after the publication of the novel. "In universe" Victor, being the genius he was might of considered that, but I doubt he could have sold the jury of the the early 1800s on the concept. Plus, in the real world, Mary Shelley didn't have an inkling of that analysis to incorporate into the narrative.
Sincerely,
Bill
@@Redfern42 Fingerprinting wouldn't have been necessary though. Male hands are typically larger than female hands, thus the monster's hands would have been far larger than Justine's. The bruising patterns would have confirmed this, as Justine's hands wouldn't have been big enough to create bruises so large.
Definitely the hardest part of the book to get through for me
I felt far more sympathetic to Frankenstein's monster than to Victor himself when i read the book
I feel Mary Shelly's ghost watching this with an approving smile.
TL:DR crazy dude creates his own original character, it doesn’t go well , then the monster asks for his own waifu during a nature hike , after that they play transcontinental tag until victor catches a cold and recaps the whole story , then they both die and boat dude has a best seller
Your depiction of Frankenstein is a cutie! Thank you for working so hard on this!
Wait the doctor or the monster? Please be specific!
@@madisyngolab330 BOTH
@@sebastiansuescum2186 Honestly tho yeah
3:13 Wow you really didn’t have to call me out like that
Me neither
what always made me laugh is that Victor just made his own OC. he chose the different parts of his science baby to be perfect. a perfect very tall muscular dude. if I didn't know any better I would have guessed Victor had some very specific male desires there.
Victor X monster (Adam) toxic relationship tag on AO3.
Jekyll and Hyde next year, please!
^^^^^^ I 100% agree with this.
yes
12:08 actually, the crew has to badger Walton into turning back, and they only succeed after half of them die. And before they convince Walton, Victor finds a surprisingly eloquent way to call the entire crew cowards for abandoning the already extremely lethal quest for scientific discovery at the North Pole. My classmates thought this was hypocritical of Victor, who’d spent his entire time on the boat warning about scientific knowledge being an inherently bad thing, but I think Victor was so desperate for his final climactic duel with the Creature that he deliberately ignored the moral of his own story and pulled a hypermasculine speech out of his ass.
8:47 OH BOY THE SISTER MUST BE LIKE REALLY HELLA CONFUSED RN 😂
Hyacinth Dolls you mean Margaret Walton?
I would also like to point out that there is no way for him to mail those letters from the north pole, meaning he either mailed her the entire book (and like 15 other letters) all at once and they all got there on the same day, or he waited until he got home to give them to her and she was just "WHAT WERE YOU DOING THAT YOU HAD TIME TO WRITE ME A NOVEL?! I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAILING AROUND THE WORLD, NOT RESTING ON A TROPICAL ISLAND!"
I think she has to do something with that
11:16 actually he puts two and two together when he hears Elizabeth’s scream on their wedding night.
around 4:02, I would like to mention that movies and other interpretations didn’t just pull the lighting out of nowhere, when electricity is applied to the muscles of something dead it simulates the electrical pulse that our brains send to tell things to move and the dead muscles are able to move. Could this create a living thing? Probably not but it’s the only basis for something that when applied to something dead, can make the dead thing move or “come a live.”
Right, absolutely! Also Mary Shelley herslef wrote about having been interested in galvanism near the time of writing the first draft.
But still, the thing about Victor building an electric machine and opening the roof to catch a lightning for his animating process was just something the 1930s movies came up with. Victor never mentions exactly HOW he did it, obly that a lightning inspired him (in the 1912 silent version, he just kind of puts all the parts in a cauldrum and... cooks his Creature into life in an oven, like a witch), but I think the idea the Universal movies came up with was quite ingenius!
🔩I never liked fiction books growing up and still don't, but Frankenstein stuck with me. I was told to read a book for a project so I grabbed the coolest looking one. 13 year old me had never been so intrigued by a story. I adored it. I related to both Victor and his Monster, I was incredibly smart and pretty much alone, but it was by choice. While another part of me was weird and didn't understand people so was gawked at. But seeing what fear, anger and morbid curiosity can push an intelligent mind to do was the most fascinating part. Victor may have been more of a villain but neither of our two main characters were heros. When I got to the end I had actually gotten so invested I forgot about the beginning scene.⚡
It's been over a decade, but I still remember this story as if I read it yesterday.
All the classics are more gay than i expected,
AND I LIKE IT
Victor: Hey Clerval, someone finally made an accurate summary of our story!
Clerval: Oh dope, really?
Victor: Yeah, look! *hands him laptop*
Clerval: Dude, this is freaking awesome! *scrolls to comment section*
Clerval: …
Victor: What?
Clerval: People ship us now
@@weesalikesmilktea4829 also Clerval: And I have no problem with that as long im top
It’s a cute ship but clerval could do so much better, victor didn’t deserve him or Elizabeth.
@@samyen3210 nobody deserves Clerval tbh, sunshine boy was to good for this world
That's just reds translation
The original books dont really do "gay"
More people interact with zero soul or emotion
I love the detail that Victor slowly is getting more gray hair, more so with the major stressors in his life than the passage of time.
Yes
I don't know where I heard that when Victor met Walton his hair was all gray, but XD, I don't think it's true
Same thing happened to me. Well, not the same, but i do look old af in some areas. Stress is a bitch.
Good point. He doesn't *live* long enough to get gray hair by aging.
Frankenstein's monster to Victor:
"WHEN WILL YOU LEARN! WHEN WILL YOU LEARN! THAT YOUR ACTIONS HAVE *CONSEQUENCES!!* AAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!"
Have you seen that video of Frankenstein vines? Cuz that exact joke is in there too
Yap
For some reason I read that in Arnold Schwarzeneggers voice
Eyyyyy, I seen that too!!
Victor: this is fine.
I love how the grey streak in Victor's hair gets larger and larger as the story progresses.
me too
Kinda how it represents how he goes madder and madder
@@raspberrycrowns9494
He doesn't go mad, he's just trying to avoid responsibility.
@@ndJssFlurt
Probably
My second guess is Marie Antoinette syndrome
@@raspberrycrowns9494
What's Marie Antoinette syndrome?
It sounds interesting!!!
"-because he was basically a GIANT NEWBORN BABY, VICTOR."
EXACTLY, VICTOR.
The creature's Literal first actions were to *smile and reach out to him.*
LIKE AN *INFANT* DOES... VICTOR.
Fu*king Victor smh
Wanda Nemer Why did you feel the need to point this out... ouch 😭
@@jamiel6005 Sorry... but if I must suffer, YALL suffer with me!
WHAT THE HELL VICTOR?
I heard a theory that I like, that Victor was designed to mock all the self-centered academics that plagued Mary Shelley while she was in college.
That is awesome
He's a direct parody of Lord Byron who has multiple books written with him in mind. I don't quite remember the names of the other ones but one was just basically an expose with the names changed. One guy single handedly created the gothic protagonist.
I completely believe that theory. Lord Byron had a pet bear when he was a student at Cambridge, and he never even had the title of Lord, he just called himself that.
@@metarcee2483 He was born a noble, that's why he's called Lord. Nobles are called Lords. It became more prevalent when he inherited from another Lord Byron and people just kept calling him Lord so it stuck.
As good as that hypothesis feels, I do have one question: are we talking about the same Frankenstein? The one written by Mary Shelly (born 1797, died 1851)? Women didn't go to university then. Heck, less than 40% of women could _read_ when Mary was born.
It's a nice, feel-good hypothesis, but it has no basis in reality. The first women's colleges wouldn't even open until 10 years after Shelly died(!)
Victor Jr: "I will murder the person you love most in this world!"
Victor Frankenstien: "No! I beg of you! Please don't kill me!
Ha! Also I love that you call him Victor Jr., that's what I'm going to call him now.
@@JaneDoeSignedHancock I call him that because it speaks a truth that Victor ignored:
He had a son.
@@Lunacorva everyone in my life is tired of my "Victor is a piece of shit" rants. Am I the only one who thinks him and Elizabeth is super creepy? Like, dude that's your sister.
@@cedartheyeah.justyeah.3967 I know, and I understand, but it still grosses me out. What's messed up is that his parents adopted her planning to marry her off to Victor.
@@JaneDoeSignedHancock Yeah, that actually probably wasn't normal back then... But at least it's not technically incest if she's adopted?
I forgot that the entirety of Frankenstein is literally just a long letter written by a man with amazing memory of a story told by a man with amazing memory that involves his sorta-son who ALSO has amazing memory.
You should check the Name of the Wind book.
And Dracula is a series of letters by people with perfect grammar and spelling also with good memory.
Runs in the “family”.
@@merrittanimation7721 Well letters, diary entries & news clippings. That's always been an issue with me with epistolary novels; like do you really expect us that someone can write diary entries detailed THIS well? I can barely remember what I had for breakfast the day before.
@@helios24601 No, nobody does . Epistolary novels demand some suspension of disbelief, in the framming in the same vein that Modern Family its a "documentary", its just a framing secuence, that granted made more sense in the 19th century, but still. And i am sorry but since its a novel in wich a man with 19th century understanding of biology and technology brings forth a somewhat human creature to life from a quilt of corpses, questioning the realism of the extent of the character's memory, seems like a bad faith nitpick, do you do the same thing with a regular (less creative) 1st person narrator who's suppose to be a mere human talking directly to you very clearly remembering things from years ago? .
Fun fact: Frankenstein is a last name, so calling the monster Frankenstein isn't actually wrong because it would be it's last name too.
It definitely should have been! >:'(
Also "the Monster" has a proper name. Adam. He says so. He chose the name Adam because "I ought to have been thy Adam." So he's Adam Frankanstine.
@@MeepChangeling Fs in chat for Adam
that wasnt him naming himself, it was him making an allusion to the biblical creation myth with himself as adam and victor as god
Henceforth, I'll call him Frankenstein Jr.
Moral I was expecting: don’t play god, science can go too far sometimes, etc.
Moral I got: If you go and make a science son you BETTER love him and take care of him
victor is a huge dick for abandoning his monster. i feel more bad for the monster then victor.
@@megamike15 yeah. It also seems unreasonable that he did, because he was beautiful, even though he had a lot of scars, he shouldn't have frightened Victor as much as he did. If anything he should have been proud his son was that handsome, but instead he freaked out because his eyes glowed yellow.
Or maybe “Don’t Be Victor Frankenstein”?
@@diegobrando3409 to be fair in the book it said the monsters face contorted in strange ways, so i think its fair to assume that he looked best when he wasnt moving, and when he moved he was super uncanny valley
that said if victor was real, i would beat him up for being a dick to his beautifully hideous son
@@sourpetals1823 in an AU where Victor kept the creature:
Creature: Dad ma- jawbone- dro'ed out again!
Victor: Why did I made you again?
Clerval: VICTOR!!!
As I read it, the monster was TOO beautiful, in that his features were mismatched and unsettling. For example, it touches on his overly perfect teeth, and I kinda get the image of the stereotypical shady salesman who has the way-too-bright and wide set smile.
Plus, y'know, the monster is definitely described as having yellow corpse skin that's almost too tight to fit his 8-foot muscle-bound body, so I have to think it wasn't just his eyes that wigged people out.
By our standards, the creature would probably fit into the uncanny valley.
Hm..
So, the monster looks like the emperor from War Hammer 40K?
@@BLS31 heresy
@@BLS31 or your average slaaneshi worshiper
@@BLS31 that’s him inquisitor! That’s the bad man!
Im gonna be real with you, Clerval's death was the most heartbreaking event in the whole book. That shit almost broke me
I remember being devastated at Elizabeth's death when I first read the novel as a teenager. It was one of my first experiences with the Woobie trope.
i cried three times this week and two were over clerval’s death
Sure, Clerval had a sunshine personality and really loved nature, but he also wanted to help the English colonize India and convert them to Christianity. I realize to Shelley, this was probably a worthy ideal, much the same way as St. John's actions are portrayed in Jane Eyre, but that doesn't mean Clerval was actually a good person.
@@Minnie_Stronni NUH UH
@@Minnie_Stronni Actually, in the 1818 edition on the book it isn't mentioned to be specifically for supporting the colonial ambitions. That was edited in the 1831 edition perhaps because Mary Shelley faced scrutiny for not supporting colonialism at the time.
"But as he progresses, he realized something that few authors seem to have internalized: that just dropping a girlfriend in front of a guy won't actually guarantee that they'll get along."
I'M QUAKING AT THE ACCURACY OF THIS
"But they're opposite genders. They have to...do the...you know!" _That's not how it works._
Proof that the story was written by a woman who had seen marriages not work out.
How you know this story was written by a woman:
@@TheMegannZ the author's name is Mary Shelley.
FINALLY, AN AUTHOR THAT UNDERSTANDS!
Victor: "I want to learn how to create life!"
Victor's parents: "Well, you see, when you love someone very much-"
Victor: "NO THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT"
But that's what his parents wanted him to do. XD
Victor: I wanna make life like a lizard by myself
Viktor's parents never gave him the talk.
@@josukejostar277 There's a feminist reading of the book where Victor's fault was that he tried to create life by completely bypassing woman. Victor even says, 'No father could claim the gratitude of his children so completely as I should deserve theirs,' and one of his main fears in making his lady-monster is that she would mother a race of creatures who would replace humanity. In general, Frankenstein is a bit of a misogynist.
@@ZephLodwick It also furthers the allusions to Greek mythology because that's basically the entire motive behind the story of Athena's birth.
Misogynists have always had a lot of angst over women being part of the child making process.
What gets me about Justine's death is that her trial apparently takes at least a week. And Victor just sits on his hands the whole time angsting about how much the entire situation sucks for him instead of... You know. Coming up with a better alibi than "science experiment gone wrong".
You do realise that even if he confesed he had no proof the monster killed William, right?
The whole thing is stupid because we are supposed to believe the giant monster was able to wonder around Geneva completely unnoticed, stumble upon a rich kid, kill him without anyone seeing anything, somehow sneaking into the Frankensteins' house and planting the necklace in Justine's pocket and run all the way back to Ingolstadt to dramatically pose during the storm tu hunt Victor.
I love the book, but a lot of things fall appart at the least bit of scrutiny.
@@warrenhillston5899 What annoys me most is that is should be obvious Justine didn't kill William, compare the size of the hand print bruises on Williams neck should be enough to confirm she wouldn't be able to do it.
@@warrenhillston5899Justine wasn’t in the house, she was in a barn
@@warrenhillston5899 Adam Frankenstein didnt run back to Ingolstadt. The jerk Frankenstein saw him just prior to arriving home in Geneva.
But he does have no prove that Adam Frankenstein was the murderer other than seeing him exists in the general area, after having not interacted with Adam since his creation.
He also runs away from the court, exclaiming how in anguish he is and how he feels worse then Justine.
"He died as he lived; casually inconveniencing anyone and everyone and making my life worse." said by Frankenstein's Monster might be the most hilariously accurate description of Victor Frankenstein ever.
Takes one to know one I guess
ClayXros Like father like son?
Agreed.
Headcannon time! What if the only reason Victor abandoned him was because he knew it would spend the rest of his life roasting him all the time?
Frankenstein WAS the monster all along