chisgule i don't agree with xiang yu though his 4th skill is super Excellent have used it soo many times, his expertise is soo much value, people usually swarm xiang yu due to his astonishing Aoe, so i use Xiang Takeda or Saladin have him at 5524 currently! I used 2 of my skill resets for it
hi chisgule! love your vids btw! could you take a minute to help me out with a question? PLease repond me to this question, since nobody know how to answer for sure. " Does the alliance motherlode gives extra gold rss for the alliance gold vault?"
5541 Charles is worse then Sun Tzu for my city garisson dont try to tell someone else that lie I tryed both and yeah my Sun Tzu performed 2x better in Kvk 2 then that Charles sry I dont know how your Charles did anything he lost me troops because my garisson didnt deal enought DMG. I dont know how your 5511 charles was doing better then my 5541 charles or Sun Tzu maybe it was because you tryed it on something like a lvl1 pass where you dont get Sun Tzu YSG AOE dmg go very fast or in expedition but I fully disagree with 5511 Charles on city wall over expertiesed Sun tzu.
This is really timely since it seems to be raining commanders out there which makes it really difficult for low spenders and F2P to play the game. Thanks again ....Artemisia and Constantine 5511. I think you have convinced me to go for Leo since I have Guan maxed. Thanks again
In my opinion, XY is a great 5510 Commander but should be a huge focus like YSG. So if you're low vip or f2p and cannot obtain skulls in a progressive manner then wait until you can take him from 5510 > 5555
@@jajko.po.5578 I disagree, the only reason a 5515 xy would make sense is for rally to gain additional damage from being swarmed. But you want expertise.
Hi, Chis !! Xiang yu or attila? Who should Iinvest next for open field? I have khan, takeda, william maxed and saladin 5551. I have 360 golden heads.:) Thank you in advance for your advice!
thanks again for amazing content ive actually been asking everywhere and most of the content creators wether or not i can do a 5510 xiang with saladin primary but got no respond ; ) will definitly look forward to find some reports of it
XY rage requirement is definitely a very strong ability that you don’t get if he is secondary. I tried a 5500 XY as secondary … and put him at level 60 few fights later. He is a glass canon for sure, but his potential is as primary, mpov
Saladdins support tree will give u 150 rage after every skill so don't bother with the XY 4th skill ,the trade off with -60 % march speed is crazy bad for low spenders /f2p , plus there will be other march speed debuffers on the field . Basically you can't move 😂
Wow, did he really just forgot to speak about he's new favorite commander? ... trajan? Cause 5511 trajan is really legit, compared to a 5551 trajan (i would rather have a 5515 then a 5551)
Hey Chis, you mention Martel over Sun for city garrison once he is 5511. What about during Shadow Legion, where you want to kill the marches as quickly as possible. Would you still go with CM over Sun?
Love the videos please make a new video with top 10 or top 5 open field marches. I feel like the meta has changed since your last video now that XY and Trajan have been tested
Hello my friend I am an Arabic follower and I hope you put a translation in Arabic because I can not understand what you are talking about only 50% and thank you for the great and informative content
@@blueclouds5509 there’s a lot of options. Marching towards your alliance territory/allied structure (city, flag, fortress) increases march speed a ton. Furthermore, in some cases you can jump through structures and resource nodes to move even faster. There is also guan alex pair that is rarely lacking march speed.
Hey chis which would be better with ysg art or nebu?? For open field I got max ysg as secondary I need primary art or nebu? but initially I can make only 5511 or 5111 or which is damn hard 5551
For Arti, 5511 might not be good because the trade-off of 25% extra damage vs delay in skill use might actually be a negative one..The concept is right of getting a good base value of 3rd / 4th skill but doesn't necessarily apply for Arti
Well I think this is spot on especially for Art. For me at least Art is about defense. At 5511 you have her defense skills maxed. If you go further than that you are trading about 500 sculptures for 25% extra damage for a couple of seconds. Unless you get really really lucky and get her to 5515 500 sculptures is a huge investment.
@@sirmann5584 I am not saying 5511 Arti isn't good..My point was 1) 5510 might be better 2) Rankings should consider this..I would rate Nebu above Arti :))
Tankiness give it to guan with leo 5511, but if you will look at 1on1, guan alex deals damage better. On big war open field, guan with leo 5511 would get more kills than guan alex.
Guys i have a very very difficult question i can’t answer myself even if i think about that since a month. I a f2p, i want to bring an aethelflead behind a tank, i have constantin 5/5/1/1 and richard 5/5/5/1, which one is the best in your opinions, i need a lot of opinions folks 🥰✌️
Great vid, Chis. In a Constantine-Leo pairing, who do you suggest as the primary? I know Constantine has the support/rage tree but Leo gets a nice little heal off of primaries from the defence tree... Thanks!
Nope. The primary and secondary commander are "leading" their troops into war. "Troops led by this commander" apply to primary and secondary. Look at it like a commander and 2nd in command who both give orders and direct the troops on the field, they both are leaders but only the equipment and talents of the primary apply. ANY skills that say "troops led by this commander" applies to your march as a primary or secondary commander, all skills apply regardless of commander being primary or secondary!
Guys i have a question, i just expertised my guan , i also have Alex expertised, so I'd like to know who would perform better guan/Leo 5-5-1-1 or guan/Alex both expertised in the open field, plus the fact that Leo would free up my Alex for another march
@@juandavidalonso9692 Guan and Alex will be best but if u want to use malitiple marches then guan Leo is best and Alex with cj or ysg or sun tzu will be good
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chisgule i don't agree with xiang yu though his 4th skill is super Excellent have used it soo many times, his expertise is soo much value, people usually swarm xiang yu due to his astonishing Aoe, so i use Xiang Takeda or Saladin have him at 5524 currently! I used 2 of my skill resets for it
I think 5511 Mulan is pretty good as a support March behind Richard or Constantine
hi chisgule! love your vids btw! could you take a minute to help me out with a question? PLease repond me to this question, since nobody know how to answer for sure. " Does the alliance motherlode gives extra gold rss for the alliance gold vault?"
Q q1
5541 Charles is worse then Sun Tzu for my city garisson dont try to tell someone else that lie I tryed both and yeah my Sun Tzu performed 2x better in Kvk 2 then that Charles sry I dont know how your Charles did anything he lost me troops because my garisson didnt deal enought DMG. I dont know how your 5511 charles was doing better then my 5541 charles or Sun Tzu maybe it was because you tryed it on something like a lvl1 pass where you dont get Sun Tzu YSG AOE dmg go very fast or in expedition but I fully disagree with 5511 Charles on city wall over expertiesed Sun tzu.
CONTENT! I don’t even know what to expect with these high tier uploads!
My kingdom just finished KvK 1 so seeing this information is good for us low spenders. I appreciate the effort put into helping us out. Thank You!
What kd are u from? I’m looking to migrate
Only 2 days into commander week and it's my favorite content over, love it Chis!!
Love the Series, this is great for f2p / newer players !!
Its really not though
@@briantrip5022 yeah most of commanders in this video is for season of conquest
BEST LEGENDARY PAIRS WHERE BOTH COMMANDERS ARE NOT MAXED! Keep up the great content btw!
This is really timely since it seems to be raining commanders out there which makes it really difficult for low spenders and F2P to play the game. Thanks again ....Artemisia and Constantine 5511. I think you have convinced me to go for Leo since I have Guan maxed. Thanks again
now we need the 1 1 1 1 commanders =)
You should just quit the game if you will use a 1111 commander... JK too tho. Enjoy the game
@@nev8360 no I am not doing it, it was just a funny comment, chill
@@lucagiordani1026 believe me, I very often come across very serious people in this rise of kingdom community🗿
No we need 1-0-0-0 commanders
🤣
Chisgule you've really outdone yourself with this series. Keep up the good work and say hi to the fam.
Some of your best value videos. Thank you. Looking forward to the non maxed commander pairing video.🤘🤘
Love this content chisgule, unexpertised legendary pairing should be interesting, looking forward to it
good work man, love videos aimed towards low spenders/F2P
6)Mehmed
5)Artemesia
4)Richard
3)Constantine
2)Xiang Yi
1)Leonidas
Nebu not mehmed
Yeah that’s what I meant
thanks for valuable examination and info. never think these commanders like that before
Chisgule iam so happy with this kind of content uhuu
This video made me very happy to have a 5515 martel!!!!!!
and please make a video testing lionadis as 5511
Great series mate. Already looking forward to Wednesday and Thursday 🤙
Smeg Mr mighty mouse himself. I miss playing with you in kingdom 79
@@ed4212 hay there brother. Hope you’re keeping well
Can you do a guide on the best way to recover from being zeroed? It hurts a lot.
In my opinion, XY is a great 5510 Commander but should be a huge focus like YSG. So if you're low vip or f2p and cannot obtain skulls in a progressive manner then wait until you can take him from 5510 > 5555
Nope,5515 xiang is even better than 5551 saladin
@@jajko.po.5578 I disagree, the only reason a 5515 xy would make sense is for rally to gain additional damage from being swarmed. But you want expertise.
@@RoninTHG xy expertise does much less than saladin expertise
@@jajko.po.5578 you're comparing skill buff to skill damage expertise
Love your videos and what's a good pair with Alexander?
@Massimo Hack Which ones the best Guan and alex
nice video chis, thank you once again!
amazing content @Chisgule thanks for your time!
Hi, Chis !!
Xiang yu or attila? Who should Iinvest next for open field? I have khan, takeda, william maxed and saladin 5551. I have 360 golden heads.:) Thank you in advance for your advice!
Go for atilla, atilla with your already maxed takeda is really good for everything
@@xav8131 thank you for The answer. I will.
thanks again for amazing content ive actually been asking everywhere and most of the content creators wether or not i can do a 5510 xiang with saladin primary but got no respond ; ) will definitly look forward to find some reports of it
XY rage requirement is definitely a very strong ability that you don’t get if he is secondary. I tried a 5500 XY as secondary … and put him at level 60 few fights later. He is a glass canon for sure, but his potential is as primary, mpov
Saladdins support tree will give u 150 rage after every skill so don't bother with the XY 4th skill ,the trade off with -60 % march speed is crazy bad for low spenders /f2p , plus there will be other march speed debuffers on the field . Basically you can't move 😂
5511 Leo or 5555 Charles Martel better as secondary to Guan?
Those 2 new video ideas area really awesome 🤩
Wow, did he really just forgot to speak about he's new favorite commander?
... trajan? Cause 5511 trajan is really legit, compared to a 5551 trajan (i would rather have a 5515 then a 5551)
Ysg indeed good if expertise, For Heroic anthem, you need Richard and ysg to Aoe barb farm. Ysg circular aoe is very good
Hey Chis, you mention Martel over Sun for city garrison once he is 5511. What about during Shadow Legion, where you want to kill the marches as quickly as possible. Would you still go with CM over Sun?
great content thx a lot. a question plz, who is a better primary to ysg: a 5511 artemisia or a 5551 rameses?
Going to be headed into my first kvk soon. Have sun/Martel on my wall. What are some good field pairings? I have most commanders available
I could argue that XY's last skill is good for hitting cities. XY + William could work if they don't have Chandra + William.
I enjoyed this video bro. Very informative.
I unlock xiang yu and get him to 5521 and he is damn good as primary commander
Yes. Although i'm late, i like those kinds of contents.
My mulan is 5512. Is it better than Joan for in canyon?
Thank you for this Video it helped me a lot
Thank you Chisgule.... it is exactly what I wanted .... and the other videos it is what we have been waiting for 😆😆😆
Love the videos please make a new video with top 10 or top 5 open field marches. I feel like the meta has changed since your last video now that XY and Trajan have been tested
Good vid Chisgule.
Hello my friend I am an Arabic follower and I hope you put a translation in Arabic because I can not understand what you are talking about only 50% and thank you for the great and informative content
Really looking forward to the next two vids! Many of the mentioned commanders are Season of Conquest commanders.
As a t5 inf player, it's better to die fighting than running away coz ur never gonna avoid hits lol
Uh no. You can avoid hits and exchanges get much much worse when you’re under 50%
@@noobatredstone3001 lol when ever can u ever run away as an infantry in open field?
@@blueclouds5509 there’s a lot of options. Marching towards your alliance territory/allied structure (city, flag, fortress) increases march speed a ton. Furthermore, in some cases you can jump through structures and resource nodes to move even faster. There is also guan alex pair that is rarely lacking march speed.
But is this better than an epic commander with expertise?
Hey chis which would be better with ysg art or nebu?? For open field I got max ysg as secondary I need primary art or nebu? but initially I can make only 5511 or 5111 or which is damn hard 5551
Chisgule interested in seeing the risky commander investment and also the best Non_maxed legendary commander pairs. Looking forward to it.
Swap
Hey Chisgule. Try to do this with the latest commanders. Thanks 👍
I love Leo's AOE attack....🗡️💀🏹
Keep it up, love these series. I have Guan at 5333 and I have enough sculptures to make Leo 5511. Should I do that or continue Guan?
Do Leo and reset Guan's skill, aim for 5155
@@brianmay1361 was thinking of it, but will be pure luck if i can 😅
For Arti, 5511 might not be good because the trade-off of 25% extra damage vs delay in skill use might actually be a negative one..The concept is right of getting a good base value of 3rd / 4th skill but doesn't necessarily apply for Arti
Well I think this is spot on especially for Art. For me at least Art is about defense. At 5511 you have her defense skills maxed. If you go further than that you are trading about 500 sculptures for 25% extra damage for a couple of seconds. Unless you get really really lucky and get her to 5515 500 sculptures is a huge investment.
@@sirmann5584 I am not saying 5511 Arti isn't good..My point was
1) 5510 might be better
2) Rankings should consider this..I would rate Nebu above Arti :))
Really hoping commander week ends with a stand-alone Lancer video.
Should I work on ysg or make Alexander 5511 first?
What do you think of 5511 Leo primary with expertise alex secondary
i know someone in kd 720 has a guan 5155 skill , he's name is SIOMAI. dunno if he has a leo 5511
I got my Pelagius to 5515 exactly first time being lucky with commanders😂
loving these vids.
How much legendary sculpture are needed to expertise a legendary commander? 690?
Guan yu with cj 5511 VS guan yu with Leo 5511 which is better?
i maxed Leo instead of herald simply because i like him more historically and he got abs.
Super super super helpful...thank you
Is 5511 Charles martel better than 5511 Constantine for city garrison?
which is tankier: guan with a maxed alex or guan with a 5511 leo?
Tankiness give it to guan with leo 5511, but if you will look at 1on1, guan alex deals damage better. On big war open field, guan with leo 5511 would get more kills than guan alex.
Chisgule should I get Richard | from the wheel?
Guys i have a very very difficult question i can’t answer myself even if i think about that since a month.
I a f2p, i want to bring an aethelflead behind a tank, i have constantin 5/5/1/1 and richard 5/5/5/1, which one is the best in your opinions, i need a lot of opinions folks 🥰✌️
Go for richard because of the march speed reduction, You can get tons of value to Aethel's expertised skill when a enemy is slowed.
Cheers broda!
Hello , I play a game very similar to this one but it is excessively P2W.
RoK is it very P2W? Or an F2P can play an important role?
very p2w, to be f2p should play smart
What about Alexander the Great I have him at 5-5-4-1 should I stop at 5-5-5-1 or try to finish him? My secondary commander is Sun Tzu atm
Alex is worthy of the expertise IMO
about the garrison commander
max skill Guan Yu + Alex vs Richard 5515 + Charles 5511
which is better ?
Richard and Martel
This is a big help for us fp2 player thanks chis 🙏
Thank you for content definitely interested in this content very valuable for most players
Great vid, Chis. In a Constantine-Leo pairing, who do you suggest as the primary? I know Constantine has the support/rage tree but Leo gets a nice little heal off of primaries from the defence tree... Thanks!
Constantine primary so that Leo’s damage is boosted against the main target
I guessed number 1 would be Leonidas.😁
Is Cheok & Harald included in 5511 ?
Leos 4th skill "led by this commander "...doesnt that mean, that this skill is irrelevant when hes secondary commander?
Nope. The primary and secondary commander are "leading" their troops into war. "Troops led by this commander" apply to primary and secondary.
Look at it like a commander and 2nd in command who both give orders and direct the troops on the field, they both are leaders but only the equipment and talents of the primary apply.
ANY skills that say "troops led by this commander" applies to your march as a primary or secondary commander, all skills apply regardless of commander being primary or secondary!
Any update on this content for Dec. 2021?
Can i 5511 guan? I really like him but im planning to max alex, f2p
5 5 5 1 Which commanders should we choose? Do you have a video like that?
Yep, it was made the day before this video
Damn good tips 😍
My Alex and Ysg maxed my guan 5551
Should I pair Alex/Ysg or guan/Alex for open field
My opinion in dark alter Alex ysg and in open field fight Guan alex
Exceptional content ! Perfect for f2p and low spender !
HI CHISGULE IMA TRY STREAMING ROK ANY TIPS
What about commanders list best to expertise?
How do i get to see commanders like ramsesse that i cant see now
Is Alex x Leo a good combo??
Is 5131 guan with 5511 leo usable?
Guys i have a question, i just expertised my guan , i also have Alex expertised, so I'd like to know who would perform better guan/Leo 5-5-1-1 or guan/Alex both expertised in the open field, plus the fact that Leo would free up my Alex for another march
Guan x leo are made for each other
@@jayzonmendoza9182 yeah but I'm not sure if a 5-5-1-1 Leo is better than an expertised Alex for guan
@@juandavidalonso9692 Guan and Alex will be best but if u want to use malitiple marches then guan Leo is best and Alex with cj or ysg or sun tzu will be good
Present best 5111!
Do some work 5111?
I like your ideas, too!
what's the chance for leo 3d skill?
When you're talking about maxing these commanders.... How far am I away from that at lvl8?
95%
Just stop thinking about it for now lol
Is it better to have Alex 55 at first or YSG 55 at first?
Ysg should always go all in and expertise
Constantine pair with whobin battle field Cis?
Make a one top 6 - 5111 legendary commander list 👍👍👍
There's none
I’m in kingdom 2339. How to get these other commanders? Like Constantine, Artemis, and nebu
They are available after kvk3. Can only be used after kvk3.
@@hightomcat that’s whack. Thank you
Best open field Rome or Viking?
Tell me please.sir!!
Dragothien did a test between them and Vikings came out top.
@@david9243 viking better.
were did u get Leonidas? i dont see him in the commander menu Oo
Mightiest Governor, must be in the season of conquest (KvK 4 and beyond)
@@Chisgule ah ok thx a lot
How about Charles Martel 5511
TY chisgule ♡♡♡♡♡
50% more damage isn't double damage
What about william? Can i use him in 5511?
You could, but 5551 is a better stopping place
@@Chisgule Ok. Thank you!
TH-camrs of rok say that they are good for 5511 but there is no practical proof. What i want to see is an example in the field.