Greg Valentine - Why Don Muraco Angle Went Nowhere in WWF
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- Greg Valentine discusses the forgotten Don Muraco angle that Vince McMahon was forced to end. Stream now 📺 TitleMatchNetwork.com
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In 1988, Valentine broke Superstar Billy Graham's leg on WWF television. This was supposed to lead up to Valentine vs Don Muraco, who was managed by Billy Graham.
Instead, after a tour in France, Muraco would find himself fired from WWF. The storyline with Superstar would never be mentioned again.
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Interesting to note that these shows from France were one of the World Wrestling Federation's first attempts at global expansion. WWF would run two shows this tour, one in Paris and one in Milan.
The matches were used for Prime Time Wrestling or exclusive Coliseum Video releases.
After the backstage incident with Nick Bockwinkle, Vince McMahon made the tough decision to terminate Don Muraco's contract. The Hammer would move on to feud with Rugged Ronnie Garvin.
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Greg just follow the rules huh? Where was that place in Milan ,,come on now
These Valentine shoot interview segments are fantastic.
They are awesome, and The Hammer is really detailed and entertaining in his storytelling.
Yeah. I am learning so much of what actually went down behind the scenes back then, and it answers a lot of questions I had about what happened to people who had story arcs and build-ups before suddenly going off the radar completely.
@@hakonsoreide Greg's an awesome person & so was his Dad.
Yes, indeed😊 They are amazing!!
@@CatsClaw44 He gives amazing detailed interviews👌 Bravo to The Hammer
I despised Greg Valentine as a kid in the mid 1980s, but these interviews are really great 35 years later. Cool Dude.
me too - that just means he was doing a great job all along
Greg has a fantastic memory. He's a great storyteller, too. Seems like a very humble and authentic guy.
Doesn’t he seem like a really cool guy
He actually is. In fact a lot of them were really cool cept Don Morroco. He was an arrogant ass in the ring and was an even bigger one outside of it. Back then when WWE/WWF were doing civic centers, now they only do coliseums, they would all go to this Polynesian restaurant named Hu Ke Lau after the show was over since it was always open until 2am on weekdays and 3am on weekends. Every time I went to see a match I would go over there and eat myself. I've ate with a lot of different wrestlers back during the WWF days. The two that stood out with me was The Hammer and Afa and Sika aka The Wild Samoans. Greg is exactly like you see in these vids. And a fun conversationalist but a bit on the reserved side. As for the Wild Samoans, they were incredibly cool nicest fun enjoyable guys out of that ring. And damn!!! They sure love to eat! I had my stuff but they practically ordered nearly everything on the menu. The bill if I remember was couple hundred bucks plus they even picked up my check. When they saw that I was done they handed me one of three Pu Pu platters. And what surprised the hell outta me was when they are on the road they only have soda, fruit juice, or milk. But man, between them two they practically polished off over 200 bucks worth of food. But man I asked all sorts of questions not on wrestling but about their Samoans' way of life. Unfortunately, that restaurant is no more. Five years ago it was burnt to the ground and the owners never rebuilt.
@@walterkoziol3822 where was this restaurant?
@@teller1290 Western Massachusetts. They had another one but they sold it way before the main one died and it was closer to serving the central part of the state of I remember.
Iam French and even the tv channel it’s correct , he say canal and it’s canal plus it’s very impressive , just in detail like that we can see how he tell the truth . And canal plus was the channel of wwf in France so it’s the channel where they should be .
Valentine and Muraco - 2 of the greatest heels of the late 70's to mid 80's. They could generate heat without saying a word, and had the size and ability to be credible IC Champions.
Would have made great tag team champions.
Muraco has a new blog or something. I get his vids. Nice guy
@@mackermaldrill2656 They would've made a fantastic pair of tag team champs, or even just as a heel team in itself, Mr. Maldrill👌 Dead on point, sir
Absolutely, Mr. Sugar
Greg has nothing to say bad about people... such a positive cat
Exactly the same as Muraco - really enjoying his new podcast. Not a bad word to say about anyone.
I've noticed that as well.
@@MoparStephen Yeah, I heard The Magnificent One has his own podcast these days, sir👍 Bravo to Don Muraco.....1 of the premier and, at least to me, most underrated WWF heels of all time☺ Loved him as I-C Champ❤
Except the pecker checker
😂😊
Been loving the Valentine and Muraco podcasts. Two classy guys, not trashing or disrespectful to other wrestlers
Yes! They been awesome.
I need to check that podcast out.
Muraco podcast is good and so is this segment
@John Dorosh you're absolutely right two of the straight up nicest guys and if WWF had any class acts to come out of there then these those two would be at the top of the list. And the irony of it is that the two of them were natural despicable heels throughout their careers.
@@ppiorkowski1502 I also respect and did not realize how dedicated they were to wrestling. Valentine working stiff to make the matches real. Muracos stories of different territories like Hawaii was great.
I love listening to Greg . His interviews are very genuine. He's a down to earth, humble guy.
Never mind THE HAMMER, Never mind Michael freaking DOUGLAS, let's talk about wrestling in PARIS.I could listen to the Hammer talk about his adventures for weeks on end.👍💪🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😲😲
I love these Valentine interviews. He's really explaining and filling in the blanks for questions I've had for years. I always wondered what happened to that Don Muraco babyface push. Makes sense now. 😂
Same with Ken Patera
Valentine has lived the life, no doubt.
Hell, what wrasslers from back in the day didn't? They all rode hard back in the day. That's why they all die young.
I could listen to both Valentine and Muraco tell these stories all day!!!
I love it when Greg the hammer tells a story I could sit and listen to him all day long
It's amazing how nice a guy he is considering how well he played the heel lol.
He is actually a great story teller in his own way. A great wrestler as well.
These Shoot interviews with The Hammer are the best! Great guy and great memory
This was gold great stories glad it was captured and record.
The Hammer was bad ass. Good, classy dude, great stories.
I love these Greg Valentine interviews. The Nick Bockwinker story is hilarious! Now I know what happened to Muraco...
I am loving these interviews with The Hammer. Liquid Valium. Good times. Gooood times.
Greg was always my favorite because they always started the show with his match
Greg makes such a great interview…all these amazing stories. Nice work!
These are great stores. Imagine seeing Greg Valentine and Don Muraco sightseeing in London or Europe. LOL
He makes a great point about Europe having all the countries right next to each other, and how it is similar to the United States. I am 53 years old and I never heard anybody in the mainstream media ever explain it.
The hammer should of been a geography teacher
Valentine and Muraco were two of the best heels of the Backlund era, as they both had enough wrestling skills that they could credibly beat Backlund. Neither were gimmick characters either, who you never could see with the belt, such as Killer Khan, etc.
Greg Valentine & Tito Santana had an awesome feud for the IC title back in 84-85, helped elevate that title after the Muraco-Snuka feud.
That Steel Cage Match they had at the Baltimore Civic Center was Epic!
Greg is brilliant in these interviews. Very straight, doesnt say stuff just to be controversial. A genuinely tough guy.
Greg is the living proof, of how a wrestler doesn't have to die from addiction. Greg wrestled very long time & started young. Mat wrestler, so he didn't take the unnecessary risks. He won & lost matches too.. Never heard stories of him addicted to anything bad / strong. He's respected the business as well.
Don Muraco pretty much confirmed this on his show a few days ago. 😄
He's show is gone now. Made me a little sad.
Greg Valentine's description is so good that in your head, you can really picture Don Muraco doing that and even hear his voice! lol
Unbelievably awesome as always.the hammer is great to listen to.
Valentine was one of my all-time favorite villains along with Don Muraco, Superstar Billy Graham and Macho Man.
Muraco was one of my favorites...still remember a king of the ring at Gilette stadium with him and Piper beating the crap out of each other...
I really enjoy listening to Greg, I really appreciate the interviews,Keep up great job
Great recollection by the Hammer about Nick Dickwinkle and Magnificent Don Muraco👍🏼
I love his stories.
Great clip from the interview
Don Morocco was my favorite villan
I always wondered what happened with this whole storyline ...!
I liked Greg as a heel. He seems like an every man you could go sit around and listen to him tell you stories of the business. And he's not an arrogant schmuck like some people.
I remember that Don Muraco angle with Superstar Billy Graham with Don Muraco looking in the best shape of his life.
& from what I remember about The Billy Graham angle, was that it started with Graham working with Butch Reed,& it eventually led to Geg & Muraco getting involved in the storyline as it continued over time on tv.
Great interview. Thought it was funny how often Greg has to tell us Sardinia was an island though! 😂
Double decker. :D Love listening to Greg. :D
I remember watching WWF back then and looking forward to that feud and it just never happened. And i didn't even know Muraco was gone until i saw Jim Brunzell took his spot on Survivor Series.
Great impression!
I think valentine and muraco could have a match today - 2 ring veterans- they could give us 10 good minutes
love both...
Definately. Just a good ole classic match with heat for 2 legends.
I would watch it instead of lashley or drew on raw.
Let's stop while we're ahead.
I’ve noticed on a lot of Greg’s interview shoots he’s in what appears to be a nice hotel rooms like a high-end hotel rooms A lot of the times
He's always in the same place, no?
@@teller1290 No he’s not always in the same place. Although some of the interviews are in the same place but not all of them.
Muraco, dynamite, and davey boy then showed up immediately in Stampede wrestling.
Muraco was the goat 🐐 and a real badass
“Pecker checker.” Damm. Gonna use that one next time I get piss tested.
lol... great interview
Didn't know Bockwinkle ever worked in the WWF .
OMG "You pecker checker!" That is hilarious. I never heard that story before. I didn't realize Bockwinkle was a WWF agent at that time. Interesting. Muraco was great. To sit at a bar and have a few drinks with these guys would be classic!!!
muraco is strong hammer would need to use his wrestling i member these guys - barry
Great stories LOL @ The Pecker Checker
I saw that match when he went after Billy
The best part of ICP Theater 🤘
Geat vinnie mac impression
Bulldogs weren't fired-they left at Survivor Series in late November. Muraco had too many incidents & Bockwinkel said the final straw was at a restaurant Muraco passed out face first in his food, apparently they had never gotten along going back to the 1970's. Feel really sorry for a gentleman like Nick having to try to control a bunch of drug addicts & drunks.
According to Don, Bock's son was a mate and a junkie. Nick detested all his friends.
And anyone on "drugs"
Nothing wrong if you have a thing for Pecker Checkers.
@@richardthompson5436 That's funny. LOL
Valentine is the real deal. Had pride in his record. But a professional. And back before it all went to crap. It’s so different now from then and frankly not in a good way. They didn’t have to do triple back flip 360 barrel rolls three times in a row that get kicked out of even when it’s through a flaming table with acid dripping off from the top of the cage
that "pecker checker" story is almost as golden as the tale about stu's cat
“Pecker Checker” is a nickname you definitely don’t want to have
That sounds like something Vince would call Pat Patterson.
Greg.and.muraco.were.to.of.the.greatist..back.than..real..great..old.school..tough.guys💪
This was hilarious! Pecker Checker!!! 😂😂😂. I often hear about agents. What actually do they do? Do they give the finishes?
Yes they let them know what spots are a must and what the finish needs to be
Thanks.
Bockwinkel was one of the best wrestlers of all time
No doubt. Bockwinkel is an icon.
0:15 The Pompidou Centre.
Nobody , I'm mean nobody , mentions Greg's mop. I envy Valentine's mop.
Cool story. Ask Greg about Mr Wonderful Paul Orndorff. We never hear about him.
Love to hear that one! RIP Mr. #1derful. One of my all-time favs.
Liquid Valium does it every time!🤣
Long live GTHV
Pecker checker lol sounds like a job pat Patterson would love
You can tell he's not into the arts. That pyramid shaped building is one of the most famous buildings in the world. Called The Louvre.
That, is not a building. It's a tower.
I thought he was talking about the Eiffel Tower. That's kind of a tall, skinny pyramid.
Muraco is a Badass And didn't do anything wrong.....lol✌️
I remember Muraco telling the same story. For all the reasons to fire a wrestler, that's pretty weak, given a lot of the horrible shit others would get away with. Don's pretty chill about it, though, and says getting fired by the WWF was the best thing to ever happen to him. Too bad about the angle with Valentine, though. I do think it would have been great had they ran a heel vs heel angle, especially since Muraco has said repeatedly he thought being a babyface was boring.
2:22 damn superstar was yoked back then
Muraco was great. Big Hammer fan too, but it's time for a haircut Greg.
👍👍
Muraco as a face? Nah. Better as a heel.
He was way better as a heel.
Liquid Valium will fuck you up lol
Don had the looks of a champion, but Valentine and Santana and Flair we're great workers he wasn't, sorry.
Can you imagine the women in Spain
Brutus Beefcakes wife would disagree😂
U-Pecker-Checker!. Great line.
Nick Botchwinkel got into Don's The Rocks face and back down .... Worse Champ ever , Tanked the AWA
For the not putting Hogan over
Iam French and you can take what he tell for truth , he name correctly the tv channel , he say canal and it’s canal plus . So he don t tell crap, even the Sardinia isle he s know where it is ,
Plus Muraco was singing a drunken song too. He was left behind and made his way back on his own dime after that song he sang about nick and pat! Then Vince said I gota suspend you but with pay. Muraco said if you do I quit. And that’s the whole story but the words that he used about nick and pat were for sure anti gay and it upset them alot plus he didn’t respect anyone! He would leave to go surf in Hawaii 4 months a year and leave in the middle of an angle year after year! 0:15
Plus the most unhappy guy Muraco was. Plus booze and gas! He was a mean drunk. Nothing that’s not been said by others before! Not nice in person either and if he is it’s rare! Always has a ax to grind! Just a negitive guy like dynamite but not as bad.
The Louvre
Lol
The could have used a "pecker checker" in MMA, didn't Kevin Randleman submit cat urine for his drug test? lol
So JYD overflowed the toilet? 😆😐🤷🏼♂️
to be fair, what the fack is an agent doing checking a guys urine on a bus?
It was back at their hotel basement after damage was done on bus.
I would have said screw em to if they were pecker checkers for steroids. Screw that lol
First and last
2:53 I don't think the WWF hired a red London bus for travelling across Europe! More likely it was a double-decker motorcoach.
May have been just when they were in UK
@@teller1290 (1) I live in the UK and I went to WWF and WCW tours and they usually hired two motorcoaches, one for faces and one for heels (WCW seemed to be stritcter about the separation, although the WWF would pull its curtains closed when pulling out of a venue where fans were milling around.
(2) The late '88 tour Don Muraco went on did not visit the UK. The first Euro tour with UK dates was Oct '89. At the time of Muraco's tour, the WWF's home Sky TV was not yet on the Astra satellite and local British wrestling still had a couple more months to run on ITV. The only WWF most people in Britain had ever seen was five so far out of six WWF specials that aired in ITV's Sat afternoon timeslot during its final two years (the last of which was a few weeks after the Euro tour.)
Nick bowinkal was a hater
Greg wrestled Mulan. Lucky man, she's beautiful. But he would rather ass eater annie wrestle with his big blurter in the Boston Hilton, his favourite rat.
MR. G. VALENTINE, WHEN YOU WERE WRESTLING, YOU PLAYED IT TO A TEE. I KIND OF DID NOT LIKE YOU. ( BAD GUY ) I GUESS IT CAME FROM WATCHING BOBO BRAZIL, ANTONINO ROCO( A ) FROM ARGENTINA? KILLER KOLOSKI, ETC. ABOUT YOU BROTHER, " YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOUR PARENTS GAVE YOU, THAT IS , " THANKFUL, GRATEFUL, AND BLESSED. AND MOST OF ALL, CLASSIC CLASS. DO NOT EVER EVER LOSE THAT MY DEAR BROTHER. THE MAJORITY OF THE FANS ❤️ LOVES, HATE 😈 THE ENTERTAINMENTS. ONE FACT THAT NO ONE KNOWS IS THE REAL STRESSFUL LIVING SITUATION OF THE MAJORITY OF WRESTLERS. AWAY FROM FAMILIES, FRIENDS ETC. THAT IS NOT NORMAL. THOUGH I MUST ADMIT THAT I AM THANKFUL FOR THE MEMORIES. AGAIN MR. G. VALENTINE, TAKE CARE OF YOUR FAMILY AND YOURSELF. YAHWEH BLESS US ALL 🇺🇸 🙏. AMEN TO THAT. 🙏