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Noticed a pattern there? 🤔 What do you think?
Yes. Definitely it is SM problem. But many k-pop fans are company stan. They view a k-pop group is manufactured. They are not real artist. Of course there are small exception. If you look bigger picture, it is cultural problem. Korean are chaebol (conglomerate) 's slave. Chaebol have power to the politician and law.
Contract is made prior debut by both parties.
I have always thought there should be a Korean Entertainment Union that protects workers rights, but do these young men and women hire lawyers to read the contracts thoroughly before signing? Same lawyer, knowing the contract, should be able to protect client from these abuses and future blackmailing. I must be missing something.
You are forgot about what happened to their 1st gen idol H.O.T. The same case with what happened to DBSK, that led H.O.T been disbanded and 3 members left and made their own group JTL. If you ever listened to JTL's song My Lecon written and composed by Tony Ahn, by the lyrics many have said that song was actually written for SM director who in 2019 also still wanted the money from H.O.T after their reunion. Glad this time they won. They still can held their concert although they should use High Five of Teenagers name instead of H.O.T and they cant use their logo. But at least now they can sing their songs again together.
Tony have said in one of interview from each 100.000 dollars they made they just got 10.000. The company even taken their blood and hair to created merchandise to sell to the fans. They also looks surprised when fans brought the merchandises that they bought in the past because they never knew about those of merchandises, means they never got money from what the company sale to the fans. We can say SM build their company literally from their blood and tears.
Before signing a contract they should ask some advice to a lawyer for future purposes.
You missed the fact, that it took Jaejoong 12 years, before he appeared on TV in Korea in July 2021 on TV CHOSUN!
I'm so amazed that it took that long. I'm a new fan of Jaejoong
@@LizilleLiztheir lot more dark side to what sm did to jyj, in my opinion what they did to jyj is beyond just cultural blockage it was criminal like mafia, they send sasengs to harass jyj, they wrote articles targeting jyj private lives, and tried everything they have to sabotage their careers
And 16 years to be back to Inkigayo.😢
I'll never forgive how dirty they did my JYJ boys... Over 15 years, goddamn
Yes. It makes me so mad I hate SM.
@@Kt-cn2rqyeap after what they did To JYJ, I Lost my trust In SM
Same with BTS.
But thank god they got international fameous first trough social media. They made all kmedia irrelevant. Now kmedia are roaming around BTS like paparazzi
Respect to jaejoong and junsu, they are in top 10 richest kpop idols
There are many lists, I've found one with Jaejoon with 50 million, but I can't find Junsu's on any of them... 😒
@@roger.camargo an idol who talked about how rich they are
Jaejoong is at 100M.@@roger.camargo
SME was that toxic ex lover that cannot let go their former partner even proven over and over again how wrong they were.
This is so true.
Respect to jyj
yesss
SM doesn’t let the people who are still with them have a personal life.
Joy have one
Blacklisting is going on in the Kpop industry even now.
I was going to say something about it, too. Because of Kim Hyun Joong and how his reputation got tarnished by lies and how, when he was going through what he was going through because of the lies 501 and his company kinda washed their hands of him, his appearances got canceled, his songs stopped being played and he was cut out of things he had already filmed and was let go. If that is not being blacklisted, then I don't know what is. Also, there was another Idol who was blacklisted and was told they could not even perform under their legal name until so many years have passed, and their 15-year contract expired. Does anyone remember who HE was? I forget, but I read about his story about 4 or 5 years ago.
Sounds like SM Entertainment needs to give up on being an entertainment agency as many lawsuits they have had. If it was a smaller agency, they would have lost their business. To answer the question asked in this video: " Who is the problem?" In MY opinion, it is the Fault of SM Entertainment. For the reason, even after the JYJ law, SM still has illegal slave contracts to this day and if someone says anything, SM makes it a lawsuit against the idol or anyone under their agency, and it also sounds like they also use harsher actions towards non-korean born idols. Kinda being racist towards the Chinese and American born Koreans, and other non-koreans. It is not just in Korea and in The Entertainment business. I have seen it here in America and Korean own businesses. It happened to a family member in the martial arts industry too.
The entertainment world can sometimes feel like a small, closed circle, which makes it challenging for artists to navigate freely..
This happened with CL and YG ent
Some of the idols deserve it sorry but some of them when they get some fame they start to act up wanting the company to worship them , ungrateful punk's
The Korean court system doesn't seem very labor friendly.
My idols are never to blame for anything bad not nothing at all x 💯💜💚🎤💋🇬🇧🇰🇷🪖⚔️💋
@@CynthiaDale-ld9hlThat’s a problem when you so blindly follow a human being who’s, by default, inherently prone to mistakes, misjudgment, misdeeds etc.
A lot of these idols did not appropriately read, negotiate or research their contracts or bother to follow up, make documentation or request formal signatures when required to ensure their future.
This is why people push to ensure *parents* do not allow their minors in these *adult* spaces.
All of these idols, which the exception of one or two, were of the age to ensure they do all of the above - yet they failed tremendously.
Much of what occurred that went on may have been “unfair” but these idols went along, signed, confirmed and agreed to it without utilizing any of their rights to ensure they were protected.
So, contrary to your skewed view, these idols do much wrong and caused much of their own problems. Unfortunately.
@@CynthiaDale-ld9hlThat’s a problem when you so blindly follow a human being who’s, by default, inherently prone to mistakes, misjudgment, misdeeds etc.
A lot of these idols did not appropriately read, negotiate or research their contracts or bother to follow up, make documentation or request formal signatures when required to ensure their future.
This is why people push to ensure *parents* do not allow their minors in these *adult* spaces.
All of these idols, which the exception of one or two, were of the age to ensure they do all of the above - yet they failed tremendously.
Much of what occurred that went on may have been “unfair” but these idols went along, signed, confirmed and agreed to it without utilizing any of their rights to ensure they were protected.
So, contrary to your skewed view, these idols do much wrong and caused much of their own problems. Unfortunately.
A lot of these idols did not appropriately read, negotiate or research their contracts or bother to follow up, make documentation or request formal signatures when required to ensure their future.
This is why people push to ensure *parents* do not allow their minors in these *adult* spaces.
All of these idols, which the exception of one or two, were of the age to ensure they do all of the above - yet they failed tremendously.
Much of what occurred that went on may have been “unfair” but these idols went along, signed, confirmed and agreed to it without utilizing any of their rights to ensure they were protected.
@@linkonabe220always have a lawyer before signing anything. Especially for a job like this.
Nothing changed SM is still worst agency in kpop.
JYJ saved so many idols.
Kim Jae Joong is the best. He did everything right. He is working hard, please support him.
f(x) members didn't sue SM for the mistreatments. They patiently waited and left SM after the end of their contract.
Yes because they knew what would happen if they left.
Yet Krystal was also blocked after jessica was kicked out gg
SM is lowkey entertainment villain, like kdrama corporate level villain.
I'm a massive ELF and my original bias was Hangeng. And when ot15 had their reunion at Ryeowook's wedding. It just felt so good and satisfying.
If anyone who supports SM ent themselves. Don't.
Moral da história: A SM não aprendeu nada com seus erros desde os anos 2000.😒😒
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All NCT members have too long lasting contracts, SM saying it's because of the military service. It doesn't make sense because it's the same for girl groups and non Korean members.
It's messed up to force trainees to sign a slave contract in order to even debut. We don't even know how many former SM trainees were blacklisted, how many NDAs were signed and how many regular employees were impacted by all of this.
Yes there's definitely something fishy about their contracts. I hope they're ok especially knowing some of them were teens when they joined SM.
I remembered that lawsuit and all Cassies were confused and in denial because, THEY HECK THEY DIDN'T SUE SM TOGETHER. Oh well. (Kpop stan since 2005 here)
SM has been sued since first group (HOT) ,, and they have had problem with Chinese personal also since first (Hangeng),, the fact that it keeps happening until now meant SM doesnt have intention to change and be fairer
Thank God Shinhwa moved fast to sued SM in the past and took ownership of their name (Thank Eric for his study),, Thank God Hangeng won the case,, Im sad for what happened to JYJ, their talent wasted in long blacklist period, , and good luck for 3 former EXOs in their case
I am Seventeen stan now. They have 2 Chinese members, so handsome and talented. And I thank God once again because they were in Pledis not SM
Damn I still feel so bad for Han Geng 😭
This week Jaejoong had a comeback but still no music shows promotions 😢 He confirmed himself he is still blacklisted
I figure a lot of other groups is going to be able to file after CBX opened up this big can of worms that they did. SM is loosing soloist left and right ! Maybe SM has just tho they could do what they wanted. Figure after the lawsuits from exo already sm wouldn’t of kept this treatment. I really hope a lot of these groups get out from sm! If SM is to loose NCT,EXO, SHINee they will go bankrupt! Heck just loosing NCT will do it and I kinda feel that’s going to happen. Kai and Taeyong going to come back from service to a empty building!
This is a very useful content for all SM fandoms
every korean entertainment agency has pros n con, plus n minus,but sm is on another level ,it's the most unfair n problematic n toxic towards its artists
Man...K-fans have been saying this for years! Especially those have been following the genre since the 1st generation era. It's not a surprise to them.
H.O.T, the legends and godfathers of idol groups, still can't even have a freaking reunion concert under their real group name....all because SM was and still is a b**tch. For context, their counterparts like Jinusean, Sechs Kies, god and Fly to the Sky have all had reunions and released music from 2014 to 2016. H.O.T members were on the same page about having a 20th anniversary concert in 2016. SM was really lukewarm about it and they went ahead with the concert but had to market themselves as "High Five Of Teenagers" (the meaning of the group name) instead of just "H.O.T." as they are better known as.
JTL song My Lecon, many have said Tony written it for the SM director whom asked for the money for H.O.T's name in their reunion concert. Glad this time they won the court to keep continue the concert although should use High Five of Teenagers name instead of H.O.T and they cant use their logo. What greedy sh*t person!
Sm going down is real.. this is so bad
This video is so helpful, thank you!
En la conferencia se prensa de inb100, tmb se dijo, que los CBX no se les han pagado por las recientes actividades con EXO. Tmb se olvidó mencionar que el año pasado, una de las razones x las que SM enterteiment se sentó a negociar con los CBX fué para que ellos retiraran la denuncia en la cámara de comercio justo dónde denunciaban injusticias en los contratos y se pedía la revisión de todos los contratos. Ellos la retiraron a condición de que solo pagarian el 5.5%. Cuando se levantó esa denuncia descubrieron que la SM tenia ya una advertencia de modificar los contratos de sus idols; cosa que no habían cumplido y que ahora procedian a una multa o 6 meses de cárcel al CEO x incumplimiento de la advertencia.
Main proplem is the SM industry😎
Thank you for including Minwoo, people usually forget about TRAX... I also wonder what happened to Kang Jungwoo, the bassist 😞
loved JYJ and Hangeng parts but Tao's part was missing information (I'm saying this as a VVHL who's been following him since his debut): Kris and Luhan had to share a part of their incomes with SM which was different from Tao's case as he wasn't bound to pay SM any penny. Also all his activities are in China and he won the lawsuits there so it doesn't affect his career, he's actually doing VERY WELL there. Another important point: Tao endured the most injuries due to his activities under SM (as the member with the most sports capability he was sent to several shows that affected his health and was seen several times on a wheelchair, from back pain to a poisoned leg to a surgery after which he had to perform to a torn ligament and bone pieces falling off with which he still recorded and danced on the MV, music show comeback, concert VCRs... even though his doctor said not to move again and that he might miss the time for it to heal). This is the main reason Tao filed a lawsuit. He negotiated with SM 8 damn times before that but they wouldn't change, and so he had to leave to take care of his latest injury. Also the surgery he underwent before , you can still see traces of it even now.
i don't understand how people still support SM ..
The blacklisting of idols I think we all should petition from citizens to those around the world.
Like I wonder about RIZZE, asepa, the new groups! How long are there contracts?
This is really a form of indentured servitude. These companies are devious. They get these young kids in during their trainee years (some from rural, uneducated backgrounds) and have them sign contracts they don't have the means to understand properly or be able to negotiate. It's criminal behavior. And tbh I don't trust the Korean legal system.
Such greedy SOBs.
I ❤ Jaejoong
SM can keep these lawsuits up forever... while it slowly bankrupts these idols. Best not to get involved with them.
Who is at fault? Seriously? Who HAS MORE POWER? The only power?
Chaebol ownership and legal influence. Of course, they didn't win in korean court so many times.
Snsd jessica case also quite similar
The scouting and talent training of SM is top tier but their treatment to their idols and staffs are inhumane as hell...is SM actually a cult or slave trade business 🤯
The real JYJ sacrificed themselves for their idol future
No minwoo🥺
Shinhwa (my all-time fave) sued SM as well.
The problem has always been SME. Hangeng was my biased and it still makes me upset how he was treated. Shame on them for treating their artists so poorly!
SM IS WORST LIKE THEY JIST TREAT THEIR ARTIST LIKE BRANDS AND NOT ARTIST OR HUMAN AT ALL
Justice for Jonghyun. His music needs to be re release and the same with all SHINee albums and EPs. They hold back artists so they have to stay....
The government should Close down Sm ent and merge their artist to other good agencies. Their history is on repeat mode!!!
And people still think SM is a good company among BIG3. In my opinion apart from exhausting schedules JYP is slightly better than YG and SM.
SM toxicity and evilness is on another level
Why don't any fan citizens help their idols?
S~~o
M~anipulated
JYJ vs SM
David vs goliath
OF SM FAULT. BECOZ OF SM , WE AS CASSIOPEIA HURT DUE TO DBSK DISBAND. I MEAN OT5.
200 to 300 people is not small.....no fans is small.
You don't know how to pronounce Mirotic?
Wow sm sucks
SM ENTERTAINMENT IS ALWAYS THE PROBLEM😑
SM is the most vicious agency among all agencies ...
Williams Robert Allen Sandra Anderson Elizabeth
😮😮😮 for hen geng
Modern slavery
Soo glad my Infinite kop I doll never SM, Wollim is the best, politicians✌️
3:37 I mean you still have to be asked. Therefore its hard to prove blacklisting.
Oc korean goverment. 😂😂😂
I always find those 'lets throw shit at sm' videos/posts problematic. not because of the content, but because ppl always hate on sm only even though its a kpop business problem as a whole. by now I think ppl are too lazy to get their facts straight and only repost what others post online so the sm hate just increases. even kpop sites jump on the sm hate train and you will see the typical 'sm is the worst company' comments increase with each post. even the 'slave contract' argument is still popular since the jyj lawsuit. by now I think ppl just want someone to throw their hate at without thinking.
as for jyj, as far as I know their contracts was 10 years. but their parents strongly fought for a 13 year contract to be made. the contratcs were not nullified because of the lengths, but for other reasons. court ruled that there was no slave contract, thats why they made a settlement and agreed to a profit share. even if they could not be active for some years, they lived well just from the profits they made. so I honestly dont feel pity for them. yes, there were reason to nullify their contract, but they met a good end with the lawsuit (financially).
as for the exo cbx scandal, that just a big load of bullshit to me. tbh rn I`m on sm side, because what baekhyun is doing is bullcrap and mess around with fans. first he meets with mc mong (which is a highly problematic person). when the conversation gets leaked (in wich mc mong said he wants to bring over baekhyun &kai) he suddenly dismisses purching accusions, just for exo cbx to end up under his label 1 year later. like do they think we are fcking dumb? lol
Imagine hating on baekhyun for going to a company u think doesn’t fit him when he knows more than u. U clearly aren’t a real exol
@@brennathecatlover4360 first of all I never stated I was an exol, which I`m not. and 2nd of all, my opinion is based on what happend so far and his&cbx behavior and the way he handles everything. he signed a contract with sm in the presence of his lawer and later he sues them for things that arent even written in the contract. thats just a load of bullshit.
I don’t know all the details of their dispute with SM, but Baekhyun is a slippery guy, he prepared a platform for his activities in advance, then created a scandal with the agency. And most importantly, he dragged the guys into this litigation; he needed a team for his arguments. I'm really sorry for Chen, but he's an adult who needs to think. I think Baekhyun cares about his personal career, he flirts with fans and does not hesitate to look like a clown at concerts. I'm sure EXO fans will soon realize that he actually destroyed EXO because of his greed for money, even though he has plenty of it. And more than his SM did not promote anyone, let us remember his leadership in the SuperM group and his happy face.@@aniangel07
@@justviewer3677just say u hate him wit passion.....let it out ur chest coz dis bullcrap u just typed really showed it....imagine working for a company without proper care.....cbx has more individual promotions under beak than sm.... SM gaslighting the members with d other members.....about flirting wit fans, isnt that normal in d kpop community....exo as a group haven't had good promotions since forever....cream soda wasn't even promoted by SM....d contract wit sm states 5.5% of Cbx revenues but boom sm is demanding 10%.....imagine blaming d talents for demanding what they worth....just wow
Chill out… They have a right to fight for what they want…… Just sit back and relax…… and what do you mean JYJ survived,,,, Do you really know what they have gone thru to reach this stage.
surprisley all the kpop idol who blacklisted and filed lawsuit against sm have successful career in japan and china.
It's surprising, but true! It just goes to show how truly talented they are!
Except Kris Wu, he has a successful career as a prison convict.
@@ann-archist7172 yes...
@@ann-archist7172 and be deported
Honestly, one of the many reason is because they already super popular before throwing a lawsuit. TVXQ are one of the 'kpop god' back then. International fans more familiar with Super Junior while Japan, China including Taiwan, and Hongkong more familiar with TVXQ. TVXQ could randomly throw a big stadium concert schedule in Japan anytime they wanted without need spechific reason and their ticket still sold out. Same like Tao, Luhan, and Kris Wu before jail, EXO popularity is very very massive in SK, JP and China at that time. Special for Jaejoong, he is really something. He tried another field like acting that turns out really good while active with JYJ, then build his own business and becoming one of the most rich celebrity in SK.
Even they won the case JYJ couldn't live peacefully because sm is the boss in the country. I'm worry for whoever sue sm they should know. It's doesn't matter they win over sm or not. You know
It's fortunate that nowadays artists have more independent media platforms like TH-cam to turn to, and more ways to reach fans.
Considering the limited options back then, Jaejoong & Junsu’s ability to find success independently is truly remarkable and inspiring...
Kim jaejoong was able find success in japan.
Lets not forget what happened to H.O.T and Shinhwa.
This week Jaejoong had a comeback but still no music shows promotions 😢 He confirmed himself he is still blacklisted
Sounds Luke the government will only do "justice" to appear justified , but they can do nothing if the devils industry doesn't decide to follow it
explains why i dont see his comeback performance.. i waited for it.
This say more about those music shows how corrupt and controlled they are, music shows should be blocked and boycotted
History has been made this Sunday August 11th - for the first time in 16 years, Jaejoong was able to appear on SBS Inkigayo for his comeback performance. He never gave up, he never stopped working, and finally he's pushed through the blacklist. May this be only the beginning of many more opportunities for him and Junsu too 🙏🙏
@@drumtap2792ameen🙏🏻💙💙
Sm Entertainment still the Worst company ever exist right now
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💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Yes, the worst company with the best artists 🥲
it’s such a pity how singers as talented as jaejoong and junsu were unable to capitalise on the international k-pop boom because of sm’s pettiness, they were and still are the most outstanding idols to me.
Clearly sm has paid the Korean judiciary 👩⚖️⚖️💼very well 💰💰💰💰💰💶💶💵💸
Chaebol families,their press and rumor allegations to keep idols in line. They get exclusive concerts and their kids are stalkers. Idols have to go along with the bs.
SM will never let any artist to grow above them . If there is any ,they would try their max to pull those group down .
true....and they even backstab their own artist...whenever a group debuts...SM started avoiding promotional activities of previous group..
Might be false informations on twt but didn’t cbx also argue that they didn’t get any payment from their last exo comeback “cream soda”?
I haven't heard about that. Let's see if other viewers can provide more information on this topic. Thanks for bringing it up!
Its mistranslations the correct words is they didnt get the bonus fee from contracts renewals
really hate the phrases from mistrans bcs baekhyun akgae and cbx akgae (toxic solo stan) bullying the rest of exo mems fans over that 😪😪😪
@@monsterbaek1648 Ah ok thank you for the correction.
SM ent is corrupt for sure. I think a really horrible story is SES, first gen kpop from SM ent. They were not allowed to talk to anyone or make contact with the outside world, they had body guards with them 24/7 so that the three could remain "mysterious," to the public. The three SES members always joke and laugh about it, but wow, it sounds really horrible and creepy.
Atleast they got bodyguards, meanwhile Taeyeon from Girls Generation got mobbed in airport because of lack of bodyguards.
@@vixxexo6855 ah, you must not know about the 1st gen of kpop. kpop fans camped in front of the idol's houses. It went to the point where fans would go number 2 in the apartment halls and everything. Shinhwa dongwan got so tired of fans camping outside that he hosed the fans with water. lit every popular idol suffered stalking.
But even they all hate it in 2002 all of them do not accept solo singers contracts and still preferred being SES as a group right? What about h.o.t history their contracts in 2001 🤔?
@@monsterbaek1648 It's alleged, that 'solo' deals in SM are treated differently than a group's contract. So they would use the solo career against the artist to extend their contract time period. It's like a loop hole.
that's sounds like they were in fact slave's captives it's disgusting.
4:50 all the 15 members at ryowook's wedding few days ago ❤❤❤❤
I remember what happened to Jessica literally like it was yesterday, i was so upset angry and in disbelief 😢
I totally get that feeling. It was such a shocking moment for all of us fans. What happened between her and SM remains a secret behind closed doors, but sometimes we can't help but think, what if SNSD members had remained together 💔
I remember that year I cried toooo much when the other members cover Jessica parts or when I watched ot9 videos
WE SUPPORT THE ARTISTS!! AND FCK SM!!
Thanks for the recap. I am a fan of TVXQ since 2007, I live through those painful years, and even lately got sad whenever I saw Junsu or Jaejoong on TH-cam, and how much they've sacrificed for their freedom. Despite how good they are now, financially or even in their respective carreers, I kinda resent HoMin, not too much, but they clearly ended up benefiting with fairer contracts and without the blacklisting. It is not that they don't deserve it, they sure as hell do, but it fills a little unfair. Anyway, I would die happy if I see them reunited for anything. (I always have the hope)
Glad you enjoyed the video! I completely understand where you're coming from. It's been a tough journey for TVXQ and their members, especially Junsu and Jaejoong, who faced many challenges for their freedom. Many fans share your hope for a reunion, and hopefully, one day we'll see them together again. Stay hopeful! 🤞🏻
Homin stay bcs they dont have strong core solo fandom like jyj have strong core solo fandom
Jyj was more on money driven they want to make more money and sched they want,
meanwhile yunho x changmin is pretty laid back bout money and dont mind staying tvxq to continue musics
Not every mems have the same stand
@@monsterbaek1648I think it's not about the solo fandom. Homin are only less popular than JYJ but still more famous than all other idols at that time. They're leader and maknae of legendary TVXQ after all. After JYJ left they still made it to the top in both Japan and Korea (Nissan twice and Dome tour almost every year). I think it's mostly because of the TVXQ label to Yunho. He once said that TVXQ is more important than his own life to him. If they all had left then there will be no TVXQ now, that name belongs to SM. In term of Changmin, he wasn't into idol life at all, not until 2012 that he truly enjoyed being on stage. Maybe he thought he would just go with the leader because the lawsuit chaos is not worth it for him.
@@monsterbaek1648 "jyj was more money driven while homin laid back bout money and continue musics" see the pattern here? No wonder jyj went out 👍🏻
This is disgusting. To have a 13 year contract?? Omg I don’t know how those young artists survived all that😢😢
It says that contracts were reduced to 7 years. Are all agencies like this now? What is the normal contract length these days?
These artists were extremely brave to do what they did and I’m angry that they suffered so much because of that action. And bravo to their fans who supported them❤️
It's a chance when the artists survive! Look at all the ones who took their own life because of these SLAVE CONTRACTS! Do you even realize the name ?? They were kids when they started ! SM only wants money and don't care about the artists who work more than hard, almost no sleep, no food no freedom etc ... YES SM IS THE GUILTY ONE! But seems so powerful! Corruption is everywhere! I'm happy Taemin and Onew said goodbye to those monsters.
Unhappily Jonghyun couldn't but the letter he left said a lot + bullying by so called fans? Nothing has changed!
Yes these young men were brave enough to sue SM !!!
All agencys mandatory 7yts after they won the lawsuit called jyj law
Me not supporting anyone but they chose to sign so it’s not one sided
@@mlynlim5337 young children saw their idols were from SM and became the next victims 😢
Exo rv nct still with 10 years contracts 😂
Sure Jaejoong n Junsu got banned from tv broadcast for 12 years yet they become one of the richest idols in korea despite all the limitation on their activity. So I guess that lawsuit didn't really ruin their career infact made them strive even more. I'm grateful that their life at least became better, less sasaeng, better work environment, better payment, better creative freedom, if they're still under sm i doubt they get as much control of their life n career as they did now.
This exo cbx situation is so weird. There's so much suing and counter suing then "everything's fine now" then "never mind we're suing again" it's the first one of these cases where I don't know who to believe.
Do you realize that five members of EXO-M already sued SM? And the sixth one already finished his contract, and now he is performing in Korea when SM said he couldn't? In all cases, they allege slave treatment and unfairness in fee distribution. Too much coincidence, isn't it?
U can see cbx were totally ignored, exo hardly get any comeback anymore. They are popular and all members have their solo activities, they joke about sm mistreated on shows. U can hardly see them on tv programs. If they want to keep their group intact, they have to settle somehow with sm. They reached an agreement and manage their activities under separate lebel. They decided to let go because these battles will last years and they won't be abke to do any activities as u see with ex members of exo. They were still accused. Still sm is not fulfilling their end of deal, so they are frustrated and want to press charges again. Lay can perform in korea now his contract is passed but sm never let him perform in korea, they gave nonsensical excuses for restrictions. I don't know why u are confused, it is clear who is at fault when a lot of their seniors went through this.
SM has always been like this. Always. Nothing has changed. Even after the law said slave contracts are illegal.
Those idols might have felt like they r fighting with their own family 😢
JYJ the OG paved the way for others.
Jaejoong oppa had Inkigayo performances for 2 songs
SM...so toxic...2 artist went suicide...god I hate SM so much...Slave Master Agency...they can spend on hiring great composer and writer, but they can't let their artist to earn better.
can you stop saying MIRROR TICK its MIROT -TIC
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From what I understand, I would say JYJ and Hangeng were in the right. Mixed thoughts on the KrisHanTao situation but I don't think SM was completely in the wrong. No Min Woo's situation seems like he planned it incorrectly himself (if he signed with another label while still under SM). The issues with CBX make me feel like SM just needs to let the EXO members go 😅 it's not worth it anymore.
Honestly, how did it go from 13 years slave contracts to 17 years after the JYJ debacle? It should've reduced to 7 year contracts.
SM of course
such an evil, disgusting, money hungry company
Why idols against legal at SM. But SM have lies not allowed grow up idols.
Boycott sm😂
Sue is like a tend they
I have a genuine question.. Why did these idols wait till they became successful to sue SM?? Dont they know slave contract in the beginning?? Didnt they feel over work in 6 months itself?? Like Hangeng from Super junior waited till 2009 for Sorry Sorry and then sued.. JYJ waited for Mirotic to sue.. Kris, Luhan after Growl.. So i feel they dont have right to act as victim.. They used SM to become famous, gets loyal fanbase and then sue SM and planning to take all money... So stop criticizing SM alone..If these idols can survive on their own why wont they start company on their own.. So these idols used SM for getting trained. Gets loyal treatments and then one day they bite the hand it feeds them
JYJ have numoerous activities all around Asia in 2009 including release singles and album in Japan that so effect severely to their health then they sue in half-end of 2009, and Mirotic release on 2008 so your hypothesis is not valid.
Keep in mind that idol is not like 9-5 kind of work that you can realized within 6 months, totally different nature of work. Even entreprenuers can not totally decide yet to close or continue within 6 months of operations if it not in case that severely loss profits.
Also with all these sue issues consecutively happen in last 10+ years, is it make sense that is something wrong in SM’s artist management? At the end of the day, if artists feel they were treated unfairly so they can sue the company as a normal Korean citizen according to SK law, nothing special.
I💜How No One Reads These Contracts Before They Sign Them!!!😩
These idols signed contract when they were teenagers. They probably were told that it was a standard contract in the industry. Also rumor was Korean music in the early were run by gangsters. If you read the story of Kim Jong Kook, he was beat up by the company's boss. He was forced to work very little to no time off.
Young talents do not have any leverage in signing the contract. If a parent starts imposing conditions, they will simply replace his child with another trainee.
honestly a lot of people don't read what they sign beign that a contract or not. wherever I'm putting my signature on I'm reading that shit a few times and you're gonna wait for me. i remember i was at the bank years ago and the woman gave me the paper to sign,i was there for the first time and i was just chosing a deal or whatever...and she was like sign there. and I'm like wait I'm allowed to read this right? and she goes: uhm...of course...??? but nobody usually does.
and im like mam... I'm at the bank,you have my info and I'm just a student...you bet I'm gonna read that 5 times now and you will wait patiently.😂
people actually look at you weirdly if you read shit before you sign it...i see it every day at work 🤦
Not every teenager will understand and read all the documents of the contract. They probably just trust what SM will do for them in the future.
And also, SM likes to force their artist to renew their contract. It happened to Sehun and Kai, even when they still going to military
Well it's either 'sign that contract we give you as a teenage trainee' or 'never have a chance at becoming an idol here' what contract negotiations do you think they can do as unknown teenagers, they're super replacable to the company, SM has 1000s of people lining up for auditions sadly (not that other companies are better, some smaller companies literally physically abuse their idols which also only os discovered afterwards)...
I wonder what will happen if all of the artist of sm will not renew their contract