BRUUUUUUUCE!!!!!! I love the stories! I will say that was raised on wrestling. I am 56 and in my early teens had NO cable or satellite in the country. Right between Montgomery and Wetumpka, ABALAMA. I grew up watching what was Southeastern Championship Wrestling and turned into Continental. Saw your brother “Dr Tom” more times than I can remember. I know not everyone is as interested in hearing about the late 70’s and the 80’s with the Fuller’s, Jimmy Golden and Austin Idol, but I would love to know more. Can you hook a brother up?
Bruce is predjudiced although hes'super talented,he'll hate Jerry Jarrett forever well,dislike,thus he dislikes memphis wrestling.some people dont like it when others do well,pretty sad.
The last two weeks were among the best episodes ever on STW. I never miss your old school shows. There was a small promotion here in Florida in the mid 80's called IWA Wrestling. I even attended a couple shows at Tampa Jai Alai. Some of the stars on the shows were Ox Baker, Mr. Wrestling 2, Chris Champion, Joe LeDuc, and even Fabulous Moolah who I got within 3 feet of as she left the ring. Great fun stuff. They were on TV for a couple months but just vanished after a while.
There is one question I had: Could Bruce describe Eddie Graham's booking philosophy a little more? Vince Sr would call him for finishes and he was widely regarded as one of the best finish guys. Would love a few examples of his finish ideas that made it to WWWF and other territories that became huge? Thanks for this guys, I am an ardent listener since 2017 and appreciate you guys keeping this podcast going through EVERYTHING.
Indianapolis, being my hometown, I’d enjoy Bruce’s take and memories on Dick the Bruiser’s WWA territory. Also would like to hear some about the Los Angeles territory and more Guerrero stories.
Hello Conny and Brucey, could you all next time talk a bit about Lars Anderson, the Hawaii Territory, Otto Wanz, The Poffo "Outlaw" territory, the Gulf Coast territory, Jim Barnettes WCW in Australia, Giant Baba, Inokis territory, the Rougeau territory, thé Vachons territory (Grand-Prix Wrestling), and maybe about some of the classic French, and English territories, if Bruce knows something about them? Kind regards, Michael from Luxembourg
Jim barnett sold the Australian promotion in 73 so thats well before bruces time . But at its peak , it was rhe best in the world . Many videos of it are on you tube
He will always be a memphis guy, Mr. Mike Jones. Thanks for the summer 87 Living in America good vibe . we of course dug Lawler,Idol, Rich ,Heyman,but we got Soul Train,Jack Hart,Chick, Tugboat Ottman,Spot,Tanaka,Diamond,JJ,Travis Bigelow,Nick B. And more! rip STJ. And Bobby Fulton and the originator of the people's elbow also Memphis guys.
Two great episodes. Nice background information. Could you please talk about or tell us any information about Bruno's Pittsburgh ownership and how things worked with Gorilla dealing with small towns in Jersey and PA for Vince.
Thanks for these two episodes! What a fun listen! Why did the Poffo family have to start an outlaw promotion? At the time that ICW was starting up, The Sheik is getting out of Detroit, and the Funks are getting out of Amarillo. Was Angelo Poffo simply not connected in the business...and in a world where the Poffo's ARE able to get an NWA territory, do you think Randy Savage still makes the jump to the WWF?
Another great episode... simply the best podcast. However, being from Puerto Rico I really would like for you guys to discuss Puerto Rico and other lesser known territories like the Maritimes and Hawaii. We are almost always not mentioned at all.
Yep. The Dallas promotion started using the World Class name around 1981. Kerry won the NWA title in 1984. In early 1986, they named their own world champion . But they set the wheels in motion in the months that preceded it by starting to announce the World Class Wrestling Association as the sanctioning organization for the matches instead of the National Wrestling Alliance.
Both episodes on the Territories were excellent! I would like to know something about Indianapolis. The most notable name I have heard come out of the territory was Bobby Heenan.
What made this and the other Territory episode so great was the lack of the schticks and gimmicks(see paint of coat/hot?how hot?....) Hardly any old worn out, repetitive impersonations, not being started by Conrad's obnoxious loud forced laugh, no purposely pronouncing words incorrectly and then spending the proceeding 3 mins talking about making it a t-shirt(so staged). Conrad's best stuff is during the first 6 months of any new podcast he creates.
Here is a territory question always puzzled me: How did Los Angeles have 10 million people, a great historic venue, and a thriving boxing culture, but the wrestling territory just never seemed to match up, even if there were bright spots like Blassie-Tolos and the annual big shows. Talk about LA wrestling and Mike LeBell and why the place never quite got there despite being such a promising place.
The criticisms of the "escape the cage" stipulation always feels off to me. People say oh it became about running away from your opponent and while yes that has happened in countless cage matches later on, in the early days that was not the psychology of it. I saw Bruno vs Ivan Koloff in a cage and it was not about frequent escape attempts. It was about beating your opponent until they couldn't get up and THEN that's when the winner would be able to leave the cage. So it was actually more like a last man standing or deathmatch. It was not about finding a way to escape. Leaving the cage was symbolic to having incapacitated your opponent. I wish more people knew this.
RIP Mr. Vachon, they did indeed say deaths come in 3s,i heard that alot during my 18 years in the death business, as well as good people telling me over and over people are dying to get in here ,i hear business is dead,and our slogan should be you tag Em,we slab em.
I would love to hear about Dick the Bruisers Indy territory and his style of booking and the talent he used (from what I’ve heard all the Heels were over as faces, but not sure if that’s true.)
Can you give us some insight in to NWA Hollywood the Los Angeles territory. Its often over looked or not mentioned in many podcasts. I dont know of anyone who really worked there except Freddie Blassie (and chat about him because hes sadly never really talked about much) You never here anyone ever say I went to work in NWA Hollywood or during my time in NWA Hollywood...why is that? Also what is the deal with Las Vegas...was there ever a territory there or did any promotions ever run Las Vegas? Again its never really talked about...did the Mafia stop wrestling from being promoted there?
I'm curious about Gene LeBell and the Los Angeles territory, Bob Geigel and Kansas City, and Emil Dupree and the Maritime territory, Dick The Bruiser and Indianapolis.
Don't know where else to ask this but in the fall of 98 on Raw there were 2 occasions where the Road Dogg comes out after the audio of "Oh you didn't know" was spoken, as opposed to saying it while walking down the aisle, so the phrase is said before he comes out from the curtain. On these occasions it is clearly a different voice than Road Dogg's, and I don't think it's Billy Gunn... I swear to you it sounds exactly like Bruce Prichard! Please check the Oct 12, 98 Raw, is that Bruce's voice saying "Oh you didn't know"? Maybe this was for fun thinking no one would notice but please tell me if Bruce ever did Road Dogg's intro from behind the curtain in 1998.
Looking at a territory map I notice there were a few that went unmentioned. I assume Bruce had little interaction, but any thoughts on all-star wrestling, hollywood wrestling, central states, nwf, and/or IWA?
There are musicians who make a nice six figure living, never leaving large states like Texas, California, Pennsylvania. Do you think, with the right angels, a wrestling promotion could sustain itself and run in a single state?
Im a fan of the Prichard brothers. I know it galls Mr.Bruce some that it was sports entertainment-y b4 that was a thing,(memphis) but if i had on wrestling on tv be it atape of Houston ,Dallas or tv5 live or channel 6 greenwood/greenville,MS,OR Channel 17 the haters would hate on it no matter which one who dropped by to annoy/visit me. If mid south was on they would ask me whos the anouncer? Depending on the age and musical preference i would say a.Porter Wagoners brother,or b.zz tops road manager,respect to Mr. Pierce
Would i be correct in asking since there were just matches in Houston they were just matches ala AEW or did they useWatts' stories and then WWF 'S for example? I guess i did ask,assume maybe?
The business is no longer all about the toughness of its competitors its more about putting on a show so I was wondering to your knowledge does the WWE continue to look at evolving the ring to help with bump taking?
Vern preferred to have the babyface chasing the title to having the babyface defend the title. That had more to do with Hulk not getting the belt than his amateur background. Vern was big on trust as well, especially in the mid to late 80s. He trusted Bockwinkle, probably didn't have that same trust with Hogan.
Bruce isn’t ending his podcast right? After Road Dogg ended his this week I’m not sure Conrad’s network could handle another departure after losing Regal, Dax, Foley, Kurt Angle, and now Road Dogg.
@@davidgi3 Regal quit when he went back to WWE, Dax ended his podcast after getting some hate over his friendship with Punk, Kurt Angle I guess got too busy, ended his, and Road Dogg announced this week that his podcast is ending due to his schedule with WWE getting busier
According to Greg Gagne they had pkans for Hogan. Greg said Higan apparently whined and pouted about not being champion..So what Bruce said wasn't entirely true about Verne not wanting to out the belt on Hogan. Greg even said he was clearing all that up in an interview. Hogan wasn't a man of his word you never could trust Hogan. The Gagne's were all about a handshake and your word that was a contract back then when there were none. A lit of people including Hogan didn't finish theur dates so they never kept their word.
Love to be a fly on the wall the next time Conrad and the producer of the show are in the same room after Mr. Thompson tells the world that the poor guy isn't big on baths! 50:30
OLE ANDERSON WAS NO LOST LOOSING HIM AS HE WAS JUST A NASTY PERSON IN REAL LIFE. PAUL VACHON THAT WAS A LOSS HE WAS ALWAYS NICE TO MEET WHEN I MET HIM.
Bruce is a little loose on the World Class chronology.... World Class Championship Wrestling, the syndicated TV show began in 1982. Before the TV was called Texas Championship or Texas Big Time. The promotion was called Southwest Sports. Kerry Von Erich won the NWA World title in May 1984 and held it for less than a month. Ric Flair would continue to defend the title against Von Erich, more so in other territories through 1985, like a traveling spot show feud. Where Flair/Race were in Texas almost every month in 82, 83, and 84, by 1985, he appeared in World Class only a handful of times. After Flair's defense v. Kevin Von Erich at the 2nd Parade of Champions in May 1985, he only appeared in World Class again in November 1985 v. Lance Von Erich. After the Parade card, watching World Class, the announcers stopped making reference to the NWA sanction. Curiously, in 1985, Flair defended his title more in Mid South, not an NWA territory, than World Class. World Class Wrestling Association formally launched in February 1986, with Ken Mantell giving a work press conference. Rick Rude the NWA American champion was named the inaugural World Class Heavyweight champion. In the same month, Crockett presented Flair the big gold belt, pretty much ending the era of the NWA traveling champion. The belt no longer labeled NWA. The story that really needs to be told is of Jim Crockett taking ownership of the NWA title, deciding to no longer send Flair to Texas, as if Fritz was his remaining obstacle to control the NWA territory system. By June 1986, booker Ken Mantell had taken much of the World Class talent to Watts' new UWF. It was a bigger deal than Bruce lets on. It seemed as if it was a plot against Fritz to take over Texas. Here too, were Watts and Crockett in league? By the end of the summer 1986, Kerry Von Erich had his motorcycle accident, World Class had a diminished roster including a very green Dingo/Ultimate Warrior, Matt Bourne and Buzz Sawyer. The title went to Black Bart. And they continued to hemorrhage talent to the WWF. 1987 was bleak. Lots of no-names. Jeep Swenson? Mike died. Kevin looked small wearing the World Class title. He had lost a step. Bruiser Brody was in and out. 1988 things were picking up. Freebirds were back. Fantastics. Iceman Parsons. Lots of the old names. Absorbing a few who didn't get picked up in the UWF/Crockett merger. But it was all a rehash. After Kerry lost his unification feud with Jerry Lawler, he no longer carried the promotion. Then appeared the Texas Tornado in WWF.
Southwest Sports, Inc. was still the actual name of the company if you check the copyright notice at the end of the shows. They were referencing the World Class Wrestling Association as the organization that sanctioned the matches for at least a few months even before they named Rude as the World Champion .
Work Class was kind of a joke promotion and it was dead long before Jerry bought it. Bruce would shit on anything Jerry had anything to do with because he told him the party was over at WWF
Bruce is salty over World Class compared to Houston. Seriously. Name recognition of stars from WCCW and feuds compared to Houston? Night and day. And I'm saying that as someone that grew up in NY.
I despise hulk hogan. Even I will admit Verne Gagne was an idiot for not putting the title on hogan. Go was the awa super show. The crowd was white hot and wanted him to win the title. What happens they dusty finished the match. You could hear the concession guys selling popcorn. That is how quiet the crowd got.
Conrad was so checked out on this one. If it's something tragic or controversial he acts like he ate a pack of blue chew, otherwise he is just sitting there browsing the web as Bruce talks.
Bruce is off in time line and details. They became World Class in 83. Long before Kerry beat Flair. Pulling out of the NWA was in 86. Kerry was a huge star but unreliable and not the worker Flair or Race was. David was the one to have a run with it, hence his Florida heel run. Dave dying changed Manny of the plans and future of not just Texas but the wrestling world
Let's just think for a minute that endeavor / TKO craps the bed and ruins the WWE which I don't think we'll ever happen but if they did could there ever be another territory system in the future?
I doubt it, for so many reasons, but primarily I don’t think people would go for not seeing tv stars, but seeing the guy down the road fighting with the guy across town. But honestly that sounds awesome.
Let's just think for a minute that endeavor / TKO craps the bed and ruins the WWE which I don't think we'll ever happen but if they did could there ever be another territory system in the future?
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BRUUUUUUUCE!!!!!! I love the stories! I will say that was raised on wrestling. I am 56 and in my early teens had NO cable or satellite in the country. Right between Montgomery and Wetumpka, ABALAMA. I grew up watching what was Southeastern Championship Wrestling and turned into Continental. Saw your brother “Dr Tom” more times than I can remember. I know not everyone is as interested in hearing about the late 70’s and the 80’s with the Fuller’s, Jimmy Golden and Austin Idol, but I would love to know more. Can you hook a brother up?
I would love to hear Bruce's take on Atlantic Grand Prix Wrestling.
Last week's episode was great, ready for this one.
Bruce is predjudiced although hes'super talented,he'll hate Jerry Jarrett forever well,dislike,thus he dislikes memphis wrestling.some people dont like it when others do well,pretty sad.
Yes a pt2!!
Jim C and Bruce have kept me into wrestling for awhile now 🫡
Same here, if it wasn't for Jim C and Bruce's podcasts, I would have lost interest years ago.
Another great episode. Love learning the history of the business before the 80s.
Excellent episode. So much info I did not know. Conrad's uncontrollable laughter at the stinky salesman analogy was infectious 😅😅
More episodes like this place. Warmed my heart hearing Bruce talk about Detroit territory. Love Cobo Hall.
The last two weeks were among the best episodes ever on STW. I never miss your old school shows. There was a small promotion here in Florida in the mid 80's called IWA Wrestling. I even attended a couple shows at Tampa Jai Alai. Some of the stars on the shows were Ox Baker, Mr. Wrestling 2, Chris Champion, Joe LeDuc, and even Fabulous Moolah who I got within 3 feet of as she left the ring. Great fun stuff. They were on TV for a couple months but just vanished after a while.
This is an awesome history lesson
Under the Pritchard learning tree
Great episode
So many territories please keep these coming
Today, I was simply educated. Thank you, Bruce and Conrad.
Conman Thompson was really enlightening on this one. Those ad reads really moved me.
There is one question I had: Could Bruce describe Eddie Graham's booking philosophy a little more? Vince Sr would call him for finishes and he was widely regarded as one of the best finish guys. Would love a few examples of his finish ideas that made it to WWWF and other territories that became huge?
Thanks for this guys, I am an ardent listener since 2017 and appreciate you guys keeping this podcast going through EVERYTHING.
Clear understanding and the truth this man knows what he's talking about real
They say death comes in 3s. First Ole Anderson, then Virgil and just read that the Butcher passed away . RIP Paul Vachon
Poor Butcher😢What Hath God Wrought?! OH THE HUMANITY!😢😢😮
I’d love more of an explanation on how the booking offices used to work. Great episodes.
Indianapolis, being my hometown, I’d enjoy Bruce’s take and memories on Dick the Bruiser’s WWA territory. Also would like to hear some about the Los Angeles territory and more Guerrero stories.
Hello Conny and Brucey, could you all next time talk a bit about Lars Anderson, the Hawaii Territory, Otto Wanz, The Poffo "Outlaw" territory, the Gulf Coast territory, Jim Barnettes WCW in Australia, Giant Baba, Inokis territory, the Rougeau territory, thé Vachons territory (Grand-Prix Wrestling), and maybe about some of the classic French, and English territories, if Bruce knows something about them?
Kind regards,
Michael from Luxembourg
Jim barnett sold the Australian promotion in 73 so thats well before bruces time . But at its peak , it was rhe best in the world . Many videos of it are on you tube
@@iang8169 Thx my boyy 😘, He had all the stars !!!
He will always be a memphis guy, Mr. Mike Jones. Thanks for the summer 87 Living in America good vibe . we of course dug Lawler,Idol, Rich ,Heyman,but we got Soul Train,Jack Hart,Chick, Tugboat Ottman,Spot,Tanaka,Diamond,JJ,Travis Bigelow,Nick B. And more! rip STJ. And Bobby Fulton and the originator of the people's elbow also Memphis guys.
Two great episodes. Nice background information. Could you please talk about or tell us any information about Bruno's Pittsburgh ownership and how things worked with Gorilla dealing with small towns in Jersey and PA for Vince.
Thanks for these two episodes! What a fun listen!
Why did the Poffo family have to start an outlaw promotion? At the time that ICW was starting up, The Sheik is getting out of Detroit, and the Funks are getting out of Amarillo. Was Angelo Poffo simply not connected in the business...and in a world where the Poffo's ARE able to get an NWA territory, do you think Randy Savage still makes the jump to the WWF?
Bruce I didn't know the Hornick IA connection. Awesome!
Great stuff
Bruce is old school. He doesnt let the red light go on until the Vicoden start kickin.. 😊
Another great episode... simply the best podcast. However, being from Puerto Rico I really would like for you guys to discuss Puerto Rico and other lesser known territories like the Maritimes and Hawaii. We are almost always not mentioned at all.
After one of your heroes killed Brody, no one cares about PR wrestling anymore.
This Nasty Boyz episode is really good!!!
World Class didn't break away from the NWA until 1986.
Yep. The Dallas promotion started using the World Class name around 1981. Kerry won the NWA title in 1984. In early 1986, they named their own world champion . But they set the wheels in motion in the months that preceded it by starting to announce the World Class Wrestling Association as the sanctioning organization for the matches instead of the National Wrestling Alliance.
Would love to hear about NWF. One of the four that had a recognized world title
Both episodes on the Territories were excellent! I would like to know something about Indianapolis. The most notable name I have heard come out of the territory was Bobby Heenan.
I always associated Baron Van Raschke and Dick the Bruiser from Indy.
What made this and the other Territory episode so great was the lack of the schticks and gimmicks(see paint of coat/hot?how hot?....) Hardly any old worn out, repetitive impersonations, not being started by Conrad's obnoxious loud forced laugh, no purposely pronouncing words incorrectly and then spending the proceeding 3 mins talking about making it a t-shirt(so staged). Conrad's best stuff is during the first 6 months of any new podcast he creates.
That's what I'm talking about break it all the way down with the truth clear and full understanding I plead the blood
Any thoughts or stories on Puerto Rico?
Any thoughts on the knoxville territory, the fullers, and the knoxville wrestling war?
Whatever happened to Tiger Conway JR he was one of my favorites back in the good ole days of Houston Wrestling
Here is a territory question always puzzled me: How did Los Angeles have 10 million people, a great historic venue, and a thriving boxing culture, but the wrestling territory just never seemed to match up, even if there were bright spots like Blassie-Tolos and the annual big shows. Talk about LA wrestling and Mike LeBell and why the place never quite got there despite being such a promising place.
Other territories: CMLL, AAA, Montreal, AJPW, NJPW, Joint Promotions (British), Otto Wanz (Germany)
The criticisms of the "escape the cage" stipulation always feels off to me. People say oh it became about running away from your opponent and while yes that has happened in countless cage matches later on, in the early days that was not the psychology of it. I saw Bruno vs Ivan Koloff in a cage and it was not about frequent escape attempts. It was about beating your opponent until they couldn't get up and THEN that's when the winner would be able to leave the cage. So it was actually more like a last man standing or deathmatch. It was not about finding a way to escape. Leaving the cage was symbolic to having incapacitated your opponent. I wish more people knew this.
Can we get a part 3. Al tomko/Vancouver British westies , Carlos colon/Puerto Rico, an Giant baba/All Japan & inoki/new japan
RIP Mr. Vachon, they did indeed say deaths come in 3s,i heard that alot during my 18 years in the death business, as well as good people telling me over and over people are dying to get in here ,i hear business is dead,and our slogan should be you tag
Em,we slab em.
I would love to hear about Dick the Bruisers Indy territory and his style of booking and the talent he used (from what I’ve heard all the Heels were over as faces, but not sure if that’s true.)
I'm Bruce Pritchard.....and youuuuuuure NOT! Love this podcast!
Can you give us some insight in to NWA Hollywood the Los Angeles territory. Its often over looked or not mentioned in many podcasts. I dont know of anyone who really worked there except Freddie Blassie (and chat about him because hes sadly never really talked about much)
You never here anyone ever say I went to work in NWA Hollywood or during my time in NWA Hollywood...why is that?
Also what is the deal with Las Vegas...was there ever a territory there or did any promotions ever run Las Vegas? Again its never really talked about...did the Mafia stop wrestling from being promoted there?
Bruce did you have any interactions with Ron Fuller and continental wrestling? Also, any insight with his grandfather Roy welch?
Bruce is starting to look like Ronnie P Gossett
I'm curious about Gene LeBell and the Los Angeles territory, Bob Geigel and Kansas City, and Emil Dupree and the Maritime territory, Dick The Bruiser and Indianapolis.
This is about winners.
Don't know where else to ask this but in the fall of 98 on Raw there were 2 occasions where the Road Dogg comes out after the audio of "Oh you didn't know" was spoken, as opposed to saying it while walking down the aisle, so the phrase is said before he comes out from the curtain. On these occasions it is clearly a different voice than Road Dogg's, and I don't think it's Billy Gunn... I swear to you it sounds exactly like Bruce Prichard! Please check the Oct 12, 98 Raw, is that Bruce's voice saying "Oh you didn't know"? Maybe this was for fun thinking no one would notice but please tell me if Bruce ever did Road Dogg's intro from behind the curtain in 1998.
NWA was formed in Waterloo Iowa
Bruce if you could have promoted any territory/company which would it have been and why?
Looking at a territory map I notice there were a few that went unmentioned. I assume Bruce had little interaction, but any thoughts on all-star wrestling, hollywood wrestling, central states, nwf, and/or IWA?
There are musicians who make a nice six figure living, never leaving large states like Texas, California, Pennsylvania. Do you think, with the right angels, a wrestling promotion could sustain itself and run in a single state?
Im a fan of the Prichard brothers. I know it galls Mr.Bruce some that it was sports entertainment-y b4 that was a thing,(memphis) but if i had on wrestling on tv be it atape of Houston ,Dallas or tv5 live or channel 6 greenwood/greenville,MS,OR Channel 17 the haters would hate on it no matter which one who dropped by to annoy/visit me. If mid south was on they would ask me whos the anouncer? Depending on the age and musical preference i would say a.Porter Wagoners brother,or b.zz tops road manager,respect to Mr. Pierce
Would i be correct in asking since there were just matches in Houston they were just matches ala AEW or did they useWatts' stories and then WWF 'S for example? I guess i did ask,assume maybe?
Any comments on Bob Geigel and Kansas City
The business is no longer all about the toughness of its competitors its more about putting on a show so I was wondering to your knowledge does the WWE continue to look at evolving the ring to help with bump taking?
why are the older episodes hidden
Hawaii, Puerto Rico had territories and you could have touched more or continued
Bruce is the only who can get away with talking about the old days and get away with it .
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fuck yeah
Vern preferred to have the babyface chasing the title to having the babyface defend the title. That had more to do with Hulk not getting the belt than his amateur background. Vern was big on trust as well, especially in the mid to late 80s. He trusted Bockwinkle, probably didn't have that same trust with Hogan.
Greg?
The truth
I still say if more people saw ecw it would have worked
Where's Portland territory on here?
I only care about us and me.
Part 1
Bruce isn’t ending his podcast right? After Road Dogg ended his this week I’m not sure Conrad’s network could handle another departure after losing Regal, Dax, Foley, Kurt Angle, and now Road Dogg.
I knew about Foley.. I didn’t know about the other… what happened ?
@@davidgi3 Regal quit when he went back to WWE, Dax ended his podcast after getting some hate over his friendship with Punk, Kurt Angle I guess got too busy, ended his, and Road Dogg announced this week that his podcast is ending due to his schedule with WWE getting busier
Conrad cutting non money maker's is what it is.
All of those podcasts were unlistenable
Podcast isn't ending
Listen to Bruce crap on all the Territories he wasn't involved in!
I mean they are a good team ,FTR,but Dax would have a tapped well pretty quick.
According to Greg Gagne they had pkans for Hogan. Greg said Higan apparently whined and pouted about not being champion..So what Bruce said wasn't entirely true about Verne not wanting to out the belt on Hogan. Greg even said he was clearing all that up in an interview. Hogan wasn't a man of his word you never could trust Hogan. The Gagne's were all about a handshake and your word that was a contract back then when there were none. A lit of people including Hogan didn't finish theur dates so they never kept their word.
Hey yo
Love to be a fly on the wall the next time Conrad and the producer of the show are in the same room after Mr. Thompson tells the world that the poor guy isn't big on baths! 50:30
OLE ANDERSON WAS NO LOST LOOSING HIM AS HE WAS JUST A NASTY PERSON IN REAL LIFE. PAUL VACHON THAT WAS A LOSS HE WAS ALWAYS NICE TO MEET WHEN I MET HIM.
Bruce is a little loose on the World Class chronology....
World Class Championship Wrestling, the syndicated TV show began in 1982. Before the TV was called Texas Championship or Texas Big Time. The promotion was called Southwest Sports.
Kerry Von Erich won the NWA World title in May 1984 and held it for less than a month. Ric Flair would continue to defend the title against Von Erich, more so in other territories through 1985, like a traveling spot show feud. Where Flair/Race were in Texas almost every month in 82, 83, and 84, by 1985, he appeared in World Class only a handful of times. After Flair's defense v. Kevin Von Erich at the 2nd Parade of Champions in May 1985, he only appeared in World Class again in November 1985 v. Lance Von Erich. After the Parade card, watching World Class, the announcers stopped making reference to the NWA sanction. Curiously, in 1985, Flair defended his title more in Mid South, not an NWA territory, than World Class.
World Class Wrestling Association formally launched in February 1986, with Ken Mantell giving a work press conference. Rick Rude the NWA American champion was named the inaugural World Class Heavyweight champion. In the same month, Crockett presented Flair the big gold belt, pretty much ending the era of the NWA traveling champion. The belt no longer labeled NWA.
The story that really needs to be told is of Jim Crockett taking ownership of the NWA title, deciding to no longer send Flair to Texas, as if Fritz was his remaining obstacle to control the NWA territory system.
By June 1986, booker Ken Mantell had taken much of the World Class talent to Watts' new UWF. It was a bigger deal than Bruce lets on. It seemed as if it was a plot against Fritz to take over Texas. Here too, were Watts and Crockett in league?
By the end of the summer 1986, Kerry Von Erich had his motorcycle accident, World Class had a diminished roster including a very green Dingo/Ultimate Warrior, Matt Bourne and Buzz Sawyer. The title went to Black Bart. And they continued to hemorrhage talent to the WWF.
1987 was bleak. Lots of no-names. Jeep Swenson? Mike died. Kevin looked small wearing the World Class title. He had lost a step. Bruiser Brody was in and out.
1988 things were picking up. Freebirds were back. Fantastics. Iceman Parsons. Lots of the old names. Absorbing a few who didn't get picked up in the UWF/Crockett merger. But it was all a rehash. After Kerry lost his unification feud with Jerry Lawler, he no longer carried the promotion.
Then appeared the Texas Tornado in WWF.
Southwest Sports, Inc. was still the actual name of the company if you check the copyright notice at the end of the shows.
They were referencing the World Class Wrestling Association as the organization that sanctioned the matches for at least a few months even before they named Rude as the World Champion .
Clear understanding when it's made c l e a r so people can really identify
Work Class was kind of a joke promotion and it was dead long before Jerry bought it. Bruce would shit on anything Jerry had anything to do with because he told him the party was over at WWF
Anything about the VKM allegations
Bruce is salty over World Class compared to Houston. Seriously. Name recognition of stars from WCCW and feuds compared to Houston? Night and day. And I'm saying that as someone that grew up in NY.
I despise hulk hogan. Even I will admit Verne Gagne was an idiot for not putting the title on hogan. Go was the awa super show. The crowd was white hot and wanted him to win the title. What happens they dusty finished the match. You could hear the concession guys selling popcorn. That is how quiet the crowd got.
Paul paid the best
Dam bruce sounds like he still has pain pills from surgery lol
Conrad was so checked out on this one. If it's something tragic or controversial he acts like he ate a pack of blue chew, otherwise he is just sitting there browsing the web as Bruce talks.
Bruce is off in time line and details. They became World Class in 83. Long before Kerry beat Flair. Pulling out of the NWA was in 86. Kerry was a huge star but unreliable and not the worker Flair or Race was. David was the one to have a run with it, hence his Florida heel run. Dave dying changed Manny of the plans and future of not just Texas but the wrestling world
Mad Dog Vashon Verne gagne was a wrestler
jesus, that swastika stands out like a sore thumb
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Let's just think for a minute that endeavor / TKO craps the bed and ruins the WWE which I don't think we'll ever happen but if they did could there ever be another territory system in the future?
I doubt it, for so many reasons, but primarily I don’t think people would go for not seeing tv stars, but seeing the guy down the road fighting with the guy across town. But honestly that sounds awesome.
@@robertkelly8559they were tv stars, they were on tv and you paid to see them live.
Nwa?
Let's just think for a minute that endeavor / TKO craps the bed and ruins the WWE which I don't think we'll ever happen but if they did could there ever be another territory system in the future?
No. No one’s going to watch a crappy territory when they can go online and watch the best one