UMC Bishops Rally the Troops to RESIST Donald Trump
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- The United Methodist Church has been signaling for some time that it wants to be an unofficial arm of the far left segment of the Democrat Party. This is just the latest development one can easily point to, showing that the UMC has been entirely captured at the top by a certain worldly ideology/ethos. In this segment, while going through the text of the latest statement from the UMC's Council of Bishops, I talk about the ideology undergirding it, and what it means to communicate to others.
Link to Statement - www.unitedmeth...
I can’t say I’m surprised that the UMC bishops did this. I think there are probably millions of UMC members who have no idea of the liberal activism of the UMC leaders.
Where have they been?
You cannot get more out of touch than a UMC bishop.
I was raised in the United Church of Christ, and there are degrees of being out of touch that remind me of ancient mystical texts that talk about degrees of spiritual experience. Reminds me in a different way, mind you. I was not trying to draw a sympathetic parallel.
They certainly are an embarrassment to themselves and apparently proud to be so.
I'm glad our Methodist congregation voted to disaffiliate from the UMC. The UMC leadership seems more motivated to support the Democratic Party platform than promoting the cause of Christ.
Excellent analysis of this letter. I’m not a UMC member but I am a Free Methodist Elder. Your well reasoned thoughtful commentary was spot on!!! Keep up the good work
I am willing to bet more than half the church members voted for Trump. I know I did. I support most of his policy positions but not all. I wish him well in his second term as President and I hope he does well. I hope America thrives.
I am not sure they did. Most Christians left the UMC several months ago. Leftists are all that remain.
Something that surprises me as an European is how liberal from the top down hierarchy the so called "7 sisters of the US Mainline Protestantism" are, while so conservative their pews are in average! How was that possible? The Episcopal Church for example is still considered the "GOP at Prayer Church", and former POTUS Bush and Bush Jr were both UMC members as far as I know, Reagan was a Mainline Christian either. Trump I don't know, he seems nondenominational which is odd at hes age cohort, but he quite frequently visited Episcopal Churches during his first term as well. So: Where are those Liberals whom have taken those Churches apart? That most of the elderly still going to most Mainline Parishes voted for Trump doesn't surprise me minimally. In a typical 50 folks ASA Parish, I'd say 40 voted for Trump. Regarding my stance on him? Well: Incredibly I don't have a closed opinion which may to feel odd, On one hand I think that he wasn't as bad as some painted him on his first mandate, but I feel sorry that you've elected someone with so many cases in your courts. It doesn't really matter on whether those are small little nothings or simply political maneuvers from the Dems., he has those problems for a reason. I'm sorry! And he's not a particularly young and healthy enough fit for the post, TBHH, like Biden, to say the least.
They follow the parts of the Bible that they agree with the others they discount .
I thank God everyday that I left the Umc after 26 years of service bad bishops and supts
The UMC may soon be bankrupt, which would leave the bishops wondering how they will collect their salaries.
Amen, brother.
This left wing wokeness is the reason I left the UMC, and I don't regret it one bit. I think the UMC is doomed unless they get new leadership and change their ways. The church has become "ungodly."
A good critique of the bishop's letter. Bishop Malone's use of the phrase "children of God" should be challenged. Scriptures tell us that not everyone is a child of God. Yes, we are made in the image of God and have inherent worth, but we are not all children of God. John 1:12 tells us that only those who receive Jesus are to be considered a child of God. See also Romans 8:16,17 and Romans 9:8 and Galatians 3:26. The Bishop seems to move to a form of universalism by including all as children of GOD. That is a serious error.
UMC members rally the troops against UMC bishops.
John Wesley basically got kicked out of the Church of England because of politics. Now Bishops from the church he founded have become political. SMH
what's the best response to their version of Love your neighbor? They lead out with Love but their version of Love and they way they use Love is very different.
To be an organization that does not allow centrist or conservative voices, is one that fails to be tolerant or inclusive or open.
My heart aches for the intentional harm being spoken and shown.
May we pray for our brothers and sisters.
Question, you mentioned not being in partnership with the UMC. Do you see places where a local GM church would be able to do mission work with a local IM church?
It’s interesting because many of my parishioners chose to leave the UMC due to their politics more than the LGBT stuff.
Yeah most leadership on the right have said for a long time that the gay stuff wasn't nearly the whole of why we needed to leave. It is a worldview issue. And they don't listen, man...
Way too liberal for me! I oray for President Trump's safety and the healing of our land!
The UMC has troops to rally?
So glad I left that heretical denomination.
Thank you for sharing
this info!
There will never be unity here in this life
since children of God,and children of the devil live here.
See1John3:6-10
Proverbs 10:24 says the fear of the wicked shall come upon them. These bishops gleefully trample the blood of Jesus under their feet. Hebrews 10 says that can only end with them falling into the hand of God in his wrath. May their fears come to pass in such a fashion as that they clearly see that God's wrath is upon them, they NEED to repent, and that God's judgment will be final if they don't...
In Jesus' name.
Really non pacifist? Thou shalt not kill. Your condemned and to brain dead to understand.
Are those bishops living in a different universe? Are they woke?
Depends on how you define woke, but yeah, they have a worldview in which systems can and should be augmented without Jesus to bring about a utopia. They see Donald Trump as the great satan and are of the mind that the role of the church should be to advance policy that happens to be promoted by the US Democrat Party.
The fact there is a woman “bishop” tells you how apostate this church is. As a woman I’d like to say women can be pastors (and I still have my view on that, also had a very good woman pastor way back before it was typical), but at the very least it is a sign something is wrong with the church in question.
The word ""fighting"" was used by Trump time and time again, of course most famously on January 5th of 2021. Are you suggesting that Trump was wrong in using the word ""fighting"' or that he is the only one in the country that can use that word correctly? The big problem with talking of other peoples duplicity is that it is not ""The Plain Truth"". To deal with supposed duplicity one must infer intent and in doing that one is not concerned with ""The Plain Truth"".
I guess I would say that use of that word doesn't lead to unity. When it was used by Trump, it did not lead to unity. Now that it is used by Harris, it similarly inflames tensions. So in that sense, I think I would be consistent by your standard. Where we would probably still disagree is whether certain ideals are worth fighting for. I would rather not live in a world in which we fight for millions of children to be killed in the womb. But here we are...
@@plainspokenpod Unity with God is not unity with the world. This is true no matter how much one may pray for millions or to win a football game. To go to God is to forsake the material world for one does not have to go to Gods creation as one is in Gods creation. You are right in seeing the confusion in much of the religious liberal agenda however you do throw out the baby with the bath. What is not understood by most is that material death is the cessation of suffering and is essential to life however the resurrection of Jesus proved that it is not definitive of life. The liberal religious agenda fails in that it tries to make cessation of suffering into material acquisition.
Any REAL Christian would resist this horrible excuse for a human being , Trump.
Hmm, okay. The litmus test for the authenticity of one's faith is one's posture towards Donald Trump. Got it.