@@SouthernGentleman yes definitely, but I’ll bet that 96 pales in comparison with the number of natives that were wiped out. I mean, natives weren’t pitching their tents in England or France saying “guess we’re gonna live here now, by the way who are these cretins that don’t want us here?”
@@missesmew @carlos Rodriguez Sorry I didn't see the comments from that Confederate dude before. I've deleted his comments and will block him from the channel.
@@Rewiretube ahh, everyone has a right to their opinion. It’s our job to show them the error of their ways. lol We know we’re right, and the smart ones know that as well. Meegwitch sir
@@CarlosRodriguez-un1ip Yes, dying from disease would very much be counted as natural death in those days and times for obvious reasons. And overstating one's case is one of the biggest problems w/today's left. As just like w/slavery in America there were horrible evils committed by both black and white and Africa should have long ago stepped forth to take it's share of the blame for such a vile practice.
As a sad follow up to this, Black Kettle was killed 4 years later at the Washita River massacre. This was also a camp of peaceful natives, and Black Kettle was still a strong proponent of peace. The leader of this massacre was George Armstrong Custer. He tried anothr massacre 8 years later at the Little Bighorn, but that didn't turn out so well. Ironically that battle was described for many years as a massacre, despite the fact that it was the aggressors that were nearly wiped out.
My compliments to the both of you for taking the time to speak of this incident in such an honest way. I am Native American, half Navajo, quarter Zuni and quarter Laguna. You both have done well to speak of the sad truth of so called, MANIFEST DESTINY. Thank you. Respectfully yours, Bruce Kanteena
Let me ask you, as there were many rights and wrongs committed by both sides were there not? When, too, how is it that the vast number of Indian tribes decided upon who controlled and/or owned what land? It was by force and to the spoils went the stronger, is that not true, also? While answering no to either of these questions would be to take history and to turn it, falsely, upside down upon its head.
It is true that Indian Tribes of North America were not saints. Wars were fought between various tribes and yes, to the victors, of, the spoils.. Yet native behavior between tribes never went ss far as The Invaders conduct.. Native peoples did not engage in genocide. Native peoples did not seek to extinguish their brothers and sisters by slaughter,, the introduction of viral infections which Native people's had no immunity to or placing groups of Native people's into a common area so that it would be easier to murder them. During wars between Native people, it was mainly to protect food stocks, the seasonal harvest, or the common defense of the tribe. We did not seek to conquer and exterminate other tribes. That was the philosophy of the Invaders, the White's. Go cry yourself to sleep Sir,!
Our grand mothers and cousins didn't survive the Sand Creek but 3 of our men did . Your good teachers .Thank You. Being the 5th generation during modern times has a great responsibility to continue teaching the young ones their families history and how we survived . Young guns did ok in the movie giving a message about the sand Creak Massacre. The families of both had some issues at the start of that filming so the name was changed to Young Guns . Our 6th generation has already stepped up as well Then the 7th will follow their learning well
I'm a Colorado native and although I've seen signs of the historical site while driving through, I've never learned the story of The Sand Creek Massacre. It wasn't discussed in any of the history classes I took, including a Colorado history class. Thank you for an educational and entertaining video.
I am a 7x6 cousin of George "Beaver" Tsetchestahase (Cheyenne) Ho-my-ike Bent. I appreciate this documentary about one of the darkest and most under-taught chapters in American history: the Sand Creek Massacre.
In the early seventies, I opened my ninth grade American history book and leafed through looking for anything on American Indians, being full Native myself. I was disappointed, I found only a half page paragraph on the Indian Wars, specifically the "ambush" of Custer and his command. The next year I switched schools. I went from a public school to an all Indian boarding school. I thrived, and it remains a source of cherished memories. One day, all students were ordered into the gym for a movie. The movie was, " Soldier Blue," about the Sand Creek Massacre. I remember being stunned and how eerily quiet everyone was. Years later I watched it again and then the tears flowed, probably because by then I was a father. I am not sure if I will ever watch it again but thank you for telling the truth.
Indian boarding schools got a well deserved bad rap in history, nowadays they are more self aware. My nieces went to Riverside boarding school in Oklahoma, they loved it. My step dad is Sauk and Fox, BTW. I love that man.👍
I was all set to join the US military after high school until I found out about Wounded Knee (that opened my eyes), then at art school (IAIA), I learned about this, and others, when I had fellow students to help me deal with it. 🤘
@@eschdaddy And that’s how the pathology perfects itself: first inculcate the children with the idea of a country, and then transfer their natural desire to take care of the people over to that abstraction. Whoever then controls that abstraction - or claims to, or claims to be able to - controls the people. From that point on people will kill and die for what the person who “controls the country” wants them to kill and die for.
@@phaedrussmith1949: it’s the constitution that I have sworn an oath to. I do understand the manipulation of those that would take advantage of that, but I consider my oath to surpass that of politicians, who put their job security over their oath. I’m not looking to whitewash our history, just ensure equality of all people of all ethnicity, gender and religions within its borders.
@@eschdaddy That’s the manipulation. You don’t define the Constitution, the Supreme Court does, and in turn - as we have seen - those who rule over you determine who is on the Supreme Court and as such the decisions it makes. If you step outside of what the Supreme Court tells you to do about the Constitution, you are by definition not a patriot and in fact, are an insurrectionist. It’s a system that I doubt anyone can ever escape from. It happened to Étienne de La Boétie, it happened to me, it happened to you. There is no escape, there are only words that make us feel better about what has happened.
Anyone interested in history, especially Colorado history, needs to read “Halfbreed” , the story of George Bent, one of William Bent’s sons who survived the massacre . An incredible man.Simply remarkable!
"Halfbreed" was one of the main sources we used for this video! It was really engrossing and George was a pretty incredible person. That's one reason why we wanted to tell the story through his eyes!
It's a great book! One of the problems was that I found it difficult to locate in a library. Not everyone can afford books. Maybe offer a library program and raise donations for books in libraries?
I've got to read it! I'm a half-breed, my mother is fullblood Cheyenne, my dad is white who claims a great great gma is Cherokee, he says his ancestors in Kansas tombstone says "killed by Cheyenne" both my ancestors killed each other, so weird.
I’ve wanted to make a video like this for too long…something kept me from doing it, and after seeing yours, I know why. Thank you for doing this. It is really well done.
I didn’t learn about this until I took a Colorado History course in college, I’m glad you two are tackling it for the younger generation. Fun fact: did you know that the local band Five Iron Frenzy wrote a song about it in 1998? Song is called “Banner Year” and it helped me pass that class. I had been listening to that album for 15 years and didn’t even realize what that song was about until I took that course. :)
What a great video! You did such a great job of wholly explaining this tragic event. I am a history teacher in New Jersey. Getting students on the east coast to try to understand the geography, cultures and peoples of the Great Plains is difficult. This video is an outstanding contribution to history! Thank you.
Thank you Rewire!!. This Native truly thanks you. Please do a video on the Wounded Knee massacre. 💔 ... Our tragedies shaped our future and why we still struggle today with addiction. But we are healing. Your informative videos help all Peoples understand better. ....Mitakuye Oyasin'- (Lakota for All my relations)
I’m glad you commented. This and other tragedies/massacres are shameful examples of our country’s mistakes. I, for one, apologize for our predecessors’ greed and stupidity.
Even though we’re mortal enemies, I’m Ojibwa, when I learned about “Wounded Knee” was for me one of the most painful massacres I’ve ever heard. Humans can be pure shit some times. It opens up ones mind to history, which isn’t just hundreds of years ago but in fact Hootoos and Watootsis, Croats and Serbs, Nazis and Jews, Turks and Armenians. All it takes is just to look at our fellow humans as not. Under the microscope, all of us have shit that stinks but we always think it’s just the other guy.
Hey guys ... ANOTHER, comment from me. ... sorry for that though. ... 😊😊 Please keep posting again because you're making an impact in a history that has been ignored. English teachers. eh ? Love you because you're teachers. ! What a great job that is so underappreciated in your country. Look forward to another vlog. Thanks
I'm afraid the truth is the Native Americans themselves committed many atrocities and they also held innocent people responsible for the actions of others. And when it came to the ownership of land and who controlled it, the Native Americans and the vast majority of tribes - felt that such decisions should be left to force and to those who were stronger, long before whites ever set foot in the New World and that is the truth and the tragedy of it. While white Europeans were simply stronger. With it being a cold and cruel world in those days and I wonder why people think good will come, not from an honest history being told, but the continual portrayal of one race as morally superior to another?
@@Jason-hg1pc I'm not really, exactly sure, what GFYS means, so please at least - Jason - have the courage of your convictions and say what your mean in fully written out English so everyone can see precisely what you are saying. As I'm totally for free speech; always will be; and I'm especially for it when it comes from someone with whom it seems I may disagree, as I always like to be very, very clear as to what they are saying as I like to work toward understanding. When I first looked at this response, too, I had thought the GFYS had meant 'Go F--k yourself.' However, in reading the whole sentence of "I'm not afraid that you can GFYS," that entirely makes no sense at all, so I want to give you a chance at clarification, so you're not permanently left with something here on the page that looks like a 7th grader wrote it.
Being a coastal native and live on a reservation I know of racism it's here to this day. Your story is told with honor and respect thank you. American people must know the truth how native Americans where treated.
Thank you! I know it won't happen in my lifetime, but I long for a time when our bloody and sometimes evil and frightening, history will actually be told in our schools! That will be a wonderful time of enlightenment as to how we got where we are! I know it will be very difficult because we can't even get our news media, nowadays, to agree on and tell the truth about what is happening in our country, now!
There is a movie..."The Soul of Silas" ~ Aaron Sayers & Jamey Crow Bartley. (the streets and statues in Denver, Colorado are named in honor of the perpetrators...) Heartwrenching!
I used to live in Colorado, and one of my regrets is that I never got to see the site of the Sand Creek Massacre before I moved away. I think it's an atrocity and an important piece of history that should not be allowed to be forgotten.
My stepdad is a descendant of Black kettle, he had many wives and 17 children, they shortened their last name to Black, probably 1/4 of our tribes last name is Black, he wanted peace, I've been taught about him my whole life.
Wanting to offer my appreciation for the comprehensive nature of this youtube. I started seeking information about this event in history, as the result of a scene in the film Iron Man 3, where the "terrorist" sites (in brief) this masacre.
One of the episodes of the miniseries "Into The West" breifly shows the massacre of Sand Creek, and to be honest that was really all I knew about this. But here I am an OTR truck driver, and I was driving down hwy 297 when I noticed a sign for the Sand Creek site, and all I could think about was that episode. And right now I am watching this Re:wire video from the town of Kit Carson, just 30 miles from the site, understanding more than I ever have. Thanks for this wonderful video you guys made, and hopefully one day I can take some time off and see the sites that you visited.
That Into the West episode is probably where we first heard the name too! Kit Carson’s a nice little town- I hope you can make it down to the historic site soon!
There is a reference to this massacre in the classic western Little Bigman " you go down there General Custer cuz this ain't Washita and this ain't Sand Creek and those ain't women and children, those are braves, Sioux and Cheyenne, thousands of 'em and by the time they get through with you there ain't gonna be nothing left but a greasy spot on the ground" something like that.
As a New Mexico Native American, I too appreciate the effort you both took to research and expose the ugly truth of what has traditionally been an all too common theme in "American" history, the one in which we natives are only good when we lay our bodies down and feed mother earth with our blood, and lives. I don't want to be disrespectful of your work, but at this point ( after we've been laid low from our once lofty perch and had everything stripped of us) it's merely lip service to those old ones who tried so hard to keep us on our own lands, and walk the paths our ancestors taught us
@@Rewiretube I don't usually comment on you tube videos, but THIS ONE hit pretty close to home and I felt compelled to say SOMETHING. As I stated before, but maybe not quite clearly enough, it is a good thing that you brought this DARKENED page into the glaringly harsh light of day. I only wish this would end up broadcast on PBS. It would open so many eyes wide shut. Kudos to you both. People talk spew rhetoric like word vomit of "making America great again," I think it an impossible task when it was built upon a legacy of lies, deliberate genocide , and out right theivery. Karma is a six armed Goddess who has no qualms with bitch slapping any one who incurs her wrath. Stay golden Pony boys
Great history lesson, guys. Thanks for sharing this. I think this also applies , to a much lesser degree, to Canada and how our Indigenous people have been treated by governments over so many years. Hey .... watching this vlog, I want to go back to high school and sid in your class. Great history teachers. 👍👍
I thoroughly enjoyed listening to your rendition of this history, as sad as it might be. You have researched the topic and have done justice to the subject. Thank-you for sharing this with us. Greetings from Israel.
I was born in Durango, Colorado and am part native! Thank you for telling the truth of what happened there. I cried watching, and breaks my heart for these people. Sometimes My blood boils in anger, but realize “ God seen it all “! And that not all white people are bad. What’s really sad is that, our government is run by the bad .
I was in Junior High when I found a book in the Fort Collins CO. I became fascinated with this story. I learned how the government treated the native in Colorado.
What a awesome video. I did not know many lessons I just learned from the both of you. I just started self learning about the great plaines and how the plain indians were removed mostly violently from their lands, how sad that humans can be so evil to one another. This was a very good explanation of this massacre. I would like to come and see this site. Your students are very lucky to have you as teachers that care for truth as when I was in school this was never taught to me. I could go on but anyway...THANKS !!!
Hi Re-wire. Brilliant video. Well done. I'm not native American. I'm British. What the American government did in that century. is unforgivable and I would be a shamed to call my self American. Just like wounded knee massacre. Cold blooded murder. That what that was. Thank guys for bring the story to light. I did not know about this. These stories have got to told. If I lived in that century I know who's side I'd be on Not the government that's for sure. I think the white man did this in fear because they do not understand. Shame on them. My respects to All the native American Indians tribes. Where ever they are. And the souls that you have lost. May they rest in peace. From 🇬🇧
The only way forward is to learn from the past and learn from it. I'm Native Alaskan, I learned about Wounded Knee just when I was about to graduate high school and join the military, instead I had to research and write about that horrible moment. Made it easy to stare down the jocks, and then the cops, but it also (truly 🤘) made my white friends into my family, because they weren't anything like that, and we acknowledged that century was over. I went to a Native American art school (IAIA, class of '99) and we covered more history, then I pointed out to my fellow students that my white friends who came to visit weren't anything like the murdering soldiers, so the good thing I got from the bad parts of the past was seeing some people I loved get along with each other.🤘 Today I'm giving you this little glimpse of the United States because I want you to know the "United" part's still legit😉
Thank you for the courage to present The Facts - Reading of "Unsettling Truths" by Authors Mark Charles and Soong-Chan Rah will further expand knowledge of the injustices, cruelty and genocidal massacres of Native Peoples and Tribes since first contact with white settlers. Truly, The Sins of the White Ancestral Fathers have left an unbearable debt on the shoulders of us, their Children - may we have the humility to beg forgiveness and contribute to the Restitution of the First Nation Peoples of Turtle Island.
What a horror. I knew the story from Dee Brown's book. This presentation really adds to Mr. Brown's book. Thank you for that! Only the Germans, as a nation, made an effort to face the horrors of their past and come to terms with it. The USA as a nation still has a distance to go to get close to reconciliation. I hope your classes help younger generations to appreciate all the peoples of the USA.
Your channel should have way more subscribers considering a) the work you’ve put in and b) America needs this channel!! Please can you win the lottery, give up your day jobs and create an English colonial history channel as well?
I'm afraid the reason the channel fails to grow, which initially surprised me too, is that the teachers tend to do what those who they rightly disagree with have done. As they very clearly present history from a leftist point of view, in drawing many of their conclusions, when we are far more of a centrist nation in spite of our most recent politics. When, of course, the more recent left turn we took is in for a major course correction in the future. And history, itself - which they get right most of the time - should be told exactly as it was without opinion, I'm sure you would agree.
About time. Stange, as a Brit, I have been haunted by the massacre for the best part of 40 years, upon reading Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, when you guys were barely kids. We can ALL now recognise that "manifest destiny" was not about conquering all towards the Western seaboard of the continent, but rather, all of the long way round towards the Eastern seaboard. The USA may call itself many things, but "great" it can never be. Trusted, it may one day be, when the Bison once agsin are able to roam freely from north of the boarder to below south: then we can ALL recognise that there maybe some honour within the European population therein after all.
To Nick Ush I am quite pleased you take interest in American History. I am Bruce from, ACROSS THE POND. Kudos to you and your mates! God Save The Queen!!!
America is certainly a great nation as it can be said, in spite of its mistakes, that America has undoubtedly done more to help the rest of the world, and in far less time, than any other country in the history of the world. While the truth is the Native Americans themselves committed many atrocities and they also held innocent people responsible for the actions of others. And when it came to the ownership of land and who controlled it, the Native Americans and the vast majority of tribes - felt that such decisions should be left to force and to those who were stronger, long before whites ever set foot in the New World and that is the truth and the tragedy of it. While white Europeans were simply stronger due to their weaponry. With it being a cold and cruel world in those days and I wonder why people think good will come, not from an honest history being told, but the continual portrayal of one race as morally superior to another?
@@christophertyler3425and look at this apologist for the most horrible things that the US has done. It’s people like you why the US govt, and other imperialist nations, continues to do horrible things to innocent people to this day
@@junsu21 Sir or ma'am, did Native Americans live in peace with each other? The answer is very much no. This is a common fallacy people believe in as well as that Native Americans lived in harmony with nature and did not disturb their ecosystem. The reality is that Native Americans fought frequently with each other and heavily modified their landscape.
@@christophertyler3425 you are engaging in whataboutism. No where did I state that the native Americans didn’t attack and kill each other. That is not distinctive. White people’s European ancestors did the same thing in Europe for centuries and still do so today. The point in this video is that no native, in north or South America, ever killed to the point of bringing themselves to near extinction and that is what Europeans and their descendants did in The Americas. That is an indisputable fact and attempts to sugarcoat or make it seem less bad are disgusting and wrong. Why do some of us still engage in this type of talk? Honestly. Can we just admit that we did people wrong ?!
Thank you. I always believed what I was taught in high school back 1964-1968 was not all. I have learned through reading books, watching wonderful PBS history and individuals who don't want to white wash our history of this country no matter how it makes one uncomfortable. The saddest event was the Trail of Tears and even today in some states indigenous people still fight for their land. I don't know what is currently being taught but the hysteria surrounding critical race theory has led many to become the new accusers and others victims. Salem witch trials all over again. This time, politicians used to further frighten and perpetuate ignorance.
Why do you have to make it a competition for "sadness"?? What is gained with that? This video is about Sand Creek. It isn't "less than". Just as they say, the history has been hidden. If it isn't important to you, that's your value system. But it's not helpful to the effort to educate people about Colorado history to say it's not as sad as some other event.
Great to see this work is being done as history is complicated and we need the truth to be told. If we never make amends for our past there us no future
@Re:wire My Southern Cheyenne and Arapaho paid for the land that Sand creek sits on. I went there for the first time in March 2021. I went where the massacre happened at with my tribes and the Rangers permission to go to the actual site. It was calm when I was smudging off the spirits with my sun dance cedar. Thank you for the video story! You did a good job researching. I like to get a copy of the dog soldier photo. Where can I get one?
The photo we showed of the four Dog Soliders? If you drop an email or shoot us one to rewiretube@gmail.com, we can send you the one we used. I don't know about physical copies though
@@Rewiretube I already got a copy of the Cheyenne Dog Soldier pic. Thanks And thanks for this story on the video. Even though, I read most in my university classes and book pertaining to the massacre.
My heart is crying for the oppression and outright cruelty these people experienced. Colonel Chivington was not punished for his crimes against humanity. He was a Mason, so there’s that explained. For Governor Evans the following was applicable as per book text: “He (Evans) explained to Wynkoop that Washington officials had given him permission to raise the new regiment because he had sworn it was necessary for protection against hostile Indians, and if he now made peace the Washington politicians would accuse him of misrepresentation. There was political pressure on Evans from Coloradans who wanted to avoid the military draft of 1864 by serving in uniform against a few poorly armed Indians rather than against the Confederates farther east. “ From the little i’ve learned these few days (after reading the book) as a Namibian is that the Indians: > Is a loving, kind, honorable, nature nurturing peaceful people > were extremely oppressed & massacred due to the greed of men’s hearts > are to date, despite some efforts, still oppressed with limited infra structure support from government in some areas I pray to the God Almighty (Big Spirit) that they be relinquished and set free and provided for justly.
And the big question…and we know the answer…why can’t these great teachers talk about this stuff with their students ? Because of bullshit politics. This country is so fucked up
Well presented and supported by facts. Parts of American History that need to be revised and rewritten... and taught in the light of truth: Labor History is also part of American History; Black History is also part of American History; and The Native American betrayals- from Plymouth up to present day are also part of American History. The Indian Removal Act which made way for a growing and expanding cotton industry was the base for the Confederacy. All part of American History and all of which needs to be rewritten and re-taught.
It wasn`t the US-army that perpetrated the Sand Creek Massacre against the southern Cheyenne and their friends the Arapahoes. It was a Colorado "volunteer - army" set up by Chivington who called himself a "colonel". If s.b. was responsible for the massacre other than Chivington and his private army it was the the governor of Colorado Evans who let the massacre happen. The massacre of the Hungate- family which served as motivation for Chivington-massacre wasn`t perpetrated by the Cheyennes but by the Arapahoes over a quarrel for horses.
I'm Cree; northern territories we call canada, these days. Canada is an unnatural structure on my lands, which happens to be the legacy of massacre after massacre after massacre. I'm a refugee of canada, and my family and community endured catholic church sexual abuses, operated in tandem with government, those residential schools.. of which there have been 24 mass graves, uncovered and unearthed, from coast to coast, little native children, massacred with impunity. Over 6500 children skeletons found in these graves. I have a personal history of being legally thieved from my father.. adopted out and far away from my original family and imagine my surprise when, as a broken adult, i'm sitting in a healing lodge and i have a big emotional scene because i'm experiencing a *body memory*. That memory of being chased by blue coats, big hats and really stinky... they're on horseback, i am not; i'm hiding and i see them cresting a hill... then stabbing pain in my upper right quadrant. That happened to me.. the memory. There's more. So i don't feel that far away from this Sand Creek age and time. It was hard to listen to but only because I'm well schooled in the lies they tell to manipulate the situation. What they couldn't manipulate they murdered. what they couldn't murder outright; they're assimilating.It's appropriate to bring this into modern times. Cause and Effect. The lives now lived on turtle island is why they massacred us. Now people want to talk inclusion ? f*ck off with that. there's wrong... to be made right.
Excellent video.Where I live in Northwest California,we have the largest American Indian population in the state.Unfortunately,during the Gold Rush era,dozens of massacres occured. To understand more,read "Indian Tears Along the Mad River"",by Rick Ruja.
This was well done, but as an avid reader of the history of these times, I have never read any account of Sand Creek that didn’t describe it as a massacre and one of many examples of the mistreatment of the Indian tribes of the Plains and the Southwest. The historian Stephen E. Ambrose published a work in 1975 called “Crazy Horse and Custer.” It was an even-handed simultaneous biography of both Crazy Horse and George Custer leading up to the Little Bighorn. What I remember best about the book was his statement (and I can’t quote it directly) that “It is impossible to overstate the ignorance and arrogance of the treatment of the Indians by the U.S. government.” Most people today are unaware of Sand Creek because they are unaware of and uninterested in history, not because it has been covered up. Just one other comment. You seem to refer to the Civil War as a war over abolishing or maintaining slavery. The war was much more complicated than that. The Confederacy justified the war as a way to maintain its way of life, a way of life that included slavery, from what it saw as Northern aggression. It wasn’t until Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation, that slavery became a major issue in the war, and it didn’t free any slaves because it applied only to slaves held in states in rebellion. Delaware and Maryland were both slave states that didn’t secede, and the slaves in those states continued to be slaves even after the Emancipation Proclamation. Moreover, the Proclamation was more a political document designed to keep the French and the English from supporting the Confederacy. Neither country wanted to be seen as fighting to protect slavery. So, was slavery an issue in the Civil War? Of course. Was it fought to free the slaves? No.
I think it was Sheridan who said " the only good indian I ever saw was dead "..after a Cheyenne at a council said " me good Indian "..though Chivington was the same type..as well as that governor Evans character
So many don't understand that "keep them under control", and that they're still doing that today. The federal funds that go to tribes? Can only be used certain ways. If they have a casino, they have certain rules. If their casino is successful (not many are, after all the overhead), they're still not allowed to turn away those federal funds, as that would make them more independent, and the US government comes down hard on them.
I know that the government committed horrific things to the native Americans, but why is it, that our history does not teach the things that the native Americans did to peaceful settlers? Some of the things the native Americans did to peaceful settlers is why the us government committed some of the acts toward the native American.
You know, I think this question might have been asked honestly, so I'm going to try to give an honest answer. I'm sorry it's long, but I don't know how to answer it any more briefly. First, I think the premise of the question is wrong, at least from our experience. When we were in school, Native Americans were portrayed in an exceedingly negative light, outside of the cartoonish examples we were given of the first Thanksgiving. Outside of that mostly false story, Native Americans were portrayed as "savages" who were primitive and warlike. When Manifest Destiny was covered in our history classes, almost no mention of the fact was given that we were invading land that had belonged to these tribes for tens of thousands of years. Native names, culture, and history didn't matter, because we only discussed Native Americans when it involved friction with the US. Second, I think it's more worth discussing the US's wrongs against Native Americans because it was literally a genocide that isn't talked about as such. We stole their land, killed their people, and decimated their culture and then told generations of our students a version where they innocuously moved to reservations so that we could nobly stretch the US from coast to coast. In our national imagination, Native Americans are largely just an obstacle for white western John Wayne heroes to conquer. Last, I don't think that's a discussion that supports an accurate viewpoint. If you're referring to the Hungate Massacre or something like it, yes, a family was killed, and they might have been killed by Arapaho. The Hungate murders were used as an excuse for Sand Creek. But Black Kettle, White Antelope, and the others at Sand Creek were peace chiefs, not war chiefs. So if those murders were committed by Arapaho, they weren't part of the bands that were slaughtered at Sand Creek. It's like murdering Irish people in retribution for something the English did. Additionally, I think that sets a dangerous precedent, saying something akin to, "Well, the Sand Creek massacre wasn't that bad (or worse, they had it coming) because Native Americans killed people too." I hope that answers your question.
@@Rewiretube . Makes me think of the treaty made that said no emigrants would settle in the black hills..only the U.S. military couldn't keep it so because of gold crazy people..the only way would be to kill them in order to keep them out of Lakota homes..or let the Lakota and others kill them but that wouldn't happen..so they full on broke the treaty and protected squatters..I would fight also if needed..only I would have told people they have to run away ..its what my relatives did..with at least so.e benefit
Need to make a correction on Mo-Chi being the only female prisoner of war. There's a few Native women were being held as prisoner of war such as Lozen an Chiricahua Apache warrior and she died in prison at Mount Vernon in Alabama.
Thanks for that info, Richard! We looked up Lozen and thought we’d share this page with anyone who might be reading through these comments: www.notesfromthefrontier.com/amp/native-warrior-women
The English three like massacres in Ireland in the 1570’s a decade before the Roanoke colony. Americans would do well to study this period as it shows that the habits we see later in the Americas manifesting themselves in the English’s first colonial venture-Ireland.
The title is misleading. The US Army did not participate in the Sand Creek massacre. Chivington and the state militia carried out the atrocity. In fact the US Army officer in charge of federal troops present refused to take part and was initially court martialed because of his refusal (charges later dropped).
@@Rewiretube while this isn't, it turned out that 2 company commander actually did refused to fire and order their man not to shoot. Several written paper actually condemned the massacre and in fact every time their dependency go to the site, they also go to these two officers graves
Very well done! Another in the long list of shameful episodes in our dealings with Native Americans. "The Fighting Parson" also reminds one of all the truly horrible things done by self- professed "Christians". While it's true that Native Americans committed many atrocities as well, that does not excuse the wholesale slaughter and mutilation of innocents by the U.S. army. Unfortunately that was another theme in our dealings with Native Americans, holding innocent people responsible for the actions of others. It seems that any indian would do when seeking revenge, no matter their personal guilt or innocence. Makes one wonder who was the true "savage"...
I'm afraid the truth is, as you even admit, the Native Americans themselves committed many atrocities and they also held innocent people responsible for the actions of others. And when it came to the ownership of land and who controlled it, the Native Americans and the vast majority of tribes - felt that such decisions should be left to force and to those who were stronger, long before whites ever set foot in the New World and that is the truth and the tragedy of it.
@@christophertyler3425 All true. I think white European culture definitely has Native Americans beat in the hypocrisy department though. Especially self-proclaimed "Christians" like Chivington. I'm not an expert, but I hope Jesus would be horrified by the atrocities committed by Chivington and his men.
This is a great video and it requires a lot of courage to expose what really happened in Sand Creek. And this truth comes from two white men that are aligned with the truth! The word “massacre” is another word that the darkness use for the Battle of Little Big Horn because in that battle an American idol lost not only the battle but also his life. A massacre from Natives Americans and that’s not the truth, it was a battle. In this case in the Sand Creek valley, Washita and in Wounded Knee it was a massacre.
You need to check out William Carr or Kerr he was a black man born on a plantation in Virginia in 1760's but wasn't a slave he became a longhunter like Daniel boone
As a Native American (Navajo) I appreciate you taking the time and making this video.
Ojibwa here, I’m with my desert brother and second this. Meegwitch
@@SouthernGentleman yes definitely, but I’ll bet that 96 pales in comparison with the number of natives that were wiped out. I mean, natives weren’t pitching their tents in England or France saying “guess we’re gonna live here now, by the way who are these cretins that don’t want us here?”
@@missesmew @carlos Rodriguez Sorry I didn't see the comments from that Confederate dude before. I've deleted his comments and will block him from the channel.
@@Rewiretube ahh, everyone has a right to their opinion. It’s our job to show them the error of their ways. lol
We know we’re right, and the smart ones know that as well. Meegwitch sir
@@CarlosRodriguez-un1ip Yes, dying from disease would very much be counted as natural death in those days and times for obvious reasons. And overstating one's case is one of the biggest problems w/today's left. As just like w/slavery in America there were horrible evils committed by both black and white and Africa should have long ago stepped forth to take it's share of the blame for such a vile practice.
As a sad follow up to this, Black Kettle was killed 4 years later at the Washita River massacre. This was also a camp of peaceful natives, and Black Kettle was still a strong proponent of peace. The leader of this massacre was George Armstrong Custer. He tried anothr massacre 8 years later at the Little Bighorn, but that didn't turn out so well. Ironically that battle was described for many years as a massacre, despite the fact that it was the aggressors that were nearly wiped out.
My compliments to the both of you for taking the time to speak of this incident in such an honest way. I am Native American, half Navajo, quarter Zuni and quarter Laguna. You both have done well to speak of the sad truth of so called, MANIFEST DESTINY. Thank you.
Respectfully yours,
Bruce Kanteena
Let me ask you, as there were many rights and wrongs committed by both sides were there not? When, too, how is it that the vast number of Indian tribes decided upon who controlled and/or owned what land? It was by force and to the spoils went the stronger, is that not true, also? While answering no to either of these questions would be to take history and to turn it, falsely, upside down upon its head.
It is true that Indian Tribes of North America were not saints. Wars were fought between various tribes and yes, to the victors, of, the spoils.. Yet native behavior between tribes never went ss far as The Invaders conduct.. Native peoples did not engage in genocide. Native peoples did not seek to extinguish their brothers and sisters by slaughter,, the introduction of viral infections which Native people's had no immunity to or placing groups of Native people's into a common area so that it would be easier to murder them. During wars between Native people, it was mainly to protect food stocks, the seasonal harvest, or the common defense of the tribe. We did not seek to conquer and exterminate other tribes. That was the philosophy of the Invaders, the White's.
Go cry yourself to sleep Sir,!
Our grand mothers and cousins didn't survive the Sand Creek but 3 of our men did .
Your good teachers .Thank You.
Being the 5th generation during modern times has a great responsibility to continue teaching the young ones their families history and how we survived .
Young guns did ok in the movie giving a message about the sand Creak Massacre. The families of both had some issues at the start of that filming so the name was changed to Young Guns .
Our 6th generation has already stepped up as well
Then the 7th will follow their learning well
I'm a Colorado native and although I've seen signs of the historical site while driving through, I've never learned the story of The Sand Creek Massacre. It wasn't discussed in any of the history classes I took, including a Colorado history class. Thank you for an educational and entertaining video.
Its Sand Creek not Sandy
@@AnaMartinez-kb9rw its sandy creek, too. The name is “dry creek” in both the cheyenne and arapahoe language.
We were just there today.
I am a 7x6 cousin of George "Beaver" Tsetchestahase (Cheyenne) Ho-my-ike Bent. I appreciate this documentary about one of the darkest and most under-taught chapters in American history: the Sand Creek Massacre.
In the early seventies, I opened my ninth grade American history book and leafed through looking for anything on American Indians, being full Native myself. I was disappointed, I found only a half page paragraph on the Indian Wars, specifically the "ambush" of Custer and his command. The next year I switched schools. I went from a public school to an all Indian boarding school. I thrived, and it remains a source of cherished memories. One day, all students were ordered into the gym for a movie. The movie was, " Soldier Blue," about the Sand Creek Massacre. I remember being stunned and how eerily quiet everyone was. Years later I watched it again and then the tears flowed, probably because by then I was a father. I am not sure if I will ever watch it again but thank you for telling the truth.
Indian boarding schools got a well deserved bad rap in history, nowadays they are more self aware. My nieces went to Riverside boarding school in Oklahoma, they loved it. My step dad is Sauk and Fox, BTW. I love that man.👍
I was all set to join the US military after high school until I found out about Wounded Knee (that opened my eyes), then at art school (IAIA), I learned about this, and others, when I had fellow students to help me deal with it. 🤘
Amazing work and an enormously important piece of history!
Actually its revisionism. They're silencing anyone that mentions the Hungate massacre and the raids that killed 90 Americans.
Thanks for giving an unbiased account for this tragedy. True patriotism is loving one’s country… despite and learning from, our faults.
What does "loving one's country" even mean?
@@phaedrussmith1949: Of you can’t answer that, then you don’t. For me, it’s a country I would die to protect.
@@eschdaddy And that’s how the pathology perfects itself: first inculcate the children with the idea of a country, and then transfer their natural desire to take care of the people over to that abstraction. Whoever then controls that abstraction - or claims to, or claims to be able to - controls the people. From that point on people will kill and die for what the person who “controls the country” wants them to kill and die for.
@@phaedrussmith1949: it’s the constitution that I have sworn an oath to. I do understand the manipulation of those that would take advantage of that, but I consider my oath to surpass that of politicians, who put their job security over their oath. I’m not looking to whitewash our history, just ensure equality of all people of all ethnicity, gender and religions within its borders.
@@eschdaddy That’s the manipulation. You don’t define the Constitution, the Supreme Court does, and in turn - as we have seen - those who rule over you determine who is on the Supreme Court and as such the decisions it makes. If you step outside of what the Supreme Court tells you to do about the Constitution, you are by definition not a patriot and in fact, are an insurrectionist.
It’s a system that I doubt anyone can ever escape from. It happened to Étienne de La Boétie, it happened to me, it happened to you. There is no escape, there are only words that make us feel better about what has happened.
Anyone interested in history, especially Colorado history, needs to read “Halfbreed” , the story of George Bent, one of William Bent’s sons who survived the massacre . An incredible man.Simply remarkable!
"Halfbreed" was one of the main sources we used for this video! It was really engrossing and George was a pretty incredible person. That's one reason why we wanted to tell the story through his eyes!
@@Rewiretube Right on guys!
It's a great book! One of the problems was that I found it difficult to locate in a library. Not everyone can afford books. Maybe offer a library program and raise donations for books in libraries?
I've got to read it! I'm a half-breed, my mother is fullblood Cheyenne, my dad is white who claims a great great gma is Cherokee, he says his ancestors in Kansas tombstone says "killed by Cheyenne" both my ancestors killed each other, so weird.
@@Rewiretube THere is another book you should read, Piavinnia, It is about the Bent-Guerrier connection. by JoAnn Kessel
I’ve wanted to make a video like this for too long…something kept me from doing it, and after seeing yours, I know why. Thank you for doing this. It is really well done.
Thanks so much!
I didn’t learn about this until I took a Colorado History course in college, I’m glad you two are tackling it for the younger generation.
Fun fact: did you know that the local band Five Iron Frenzy wrote a song about it in 1998? Song is called “Banner Year” and it helped me pass that class. I had been listening to that album for 15 years and didn’t even realize what that song was about until I took that course. :)
Just found your channel. I watch this type of channels all the time. Thank you for what you do.
THANK YOU. I KNEW QUITE A BIT OF THIS BUT SEEING IT MAKES IT SO MUCH MORE HEARTBREAKING
"Nothing lives long... Only the Earth and the mountains." I cried.
As always, I learned a lot from this video! Great work!!
Thanks a lot for making this video.
Well thanks a lot for watching!
So refreshing to see real history instead of the whitewashed lies we were taught in schools. I read "bury my heart at wounded knee". I cried
You mean the Caucasian settlers AKA immigrants! The same immigrants they're trying to stop in today's time
What a great video! You did such a great job of wholly explaining this tragic event. I am a history teacher in New Jersey. Getting students on the east coast to try to understand the geography, cultures and peoples of the Great Plains is difficult. This video is an outstanding contribution to history! Thank you.
Thank you!
You guys are doing a really great service! Amazing work
By the way guys , great video…. brought tears to my eyes. Thank you!
Thank you for your work putting this video together - Great job!
Dan put a huge amount of work into this one!
Thank you Rewire!!. This Native truly thanks you. Please do a video on the Wounded Knee massacre. 💔 ... Our tragedies shaped our future and why we still struggle today with addiction. But we are healing. Your informative videos help all Peoples understand better. ....Mitakuye Oyasin'- (Lakota for All my relations)
We are so glad to hear it! Thank you!
I’m glad you commented. This and other tragedies/massacres are shameful examples of our country’s mistakes. I, for one, apologize for our predecessors’ greed and stupidity.
Even though we’re mortal enemies, I’m Ojibwa, when I learned about “Wounded Knee” was for me one of the most painful massacres I’ve ever heard.
Humans can be pure shit some times. It opens up ones mind to history, which isn’t just hundreds of years ago but in fact Hootoos and Watootsis, Croats and Serbs, Nazis and Jews, Turks and Armenians. All it takes is just to look at our fellow humans as not. Under the microscope, all of us have shit that stinks but we always think it’s just the other guy.
One of the things we learn from history is that we often do not learn.
Hey guys ... ANOTHER, comment from me. ... sorry for that though. ... 😊😊
Please keep posting again because you're making an impact in a history that has been ignored.
English teachers. eh ? Love you because you're teachers. ! What a great job that is so underappreciated in your country. Look forward to another vlog. Thanks
I'm afraid the truth is the Native Americans themselves committed many atrocities and they also held innocent people responsible for the actions of others. And when it came to the ownership of land and who controlled it, the Native Americans and the vast majority of tribes - felt that such decisions should be left to force and to those who were stronger, long before whites ever set foot in the New World and that is the truth and the tragedy of it. While white Europeans were simply stronger. With it being a cold and cruel world in those days and I wonder why people think good will come, not from an honest history being told, but the continual portrayal of one race as morally superior to another?
@@christophertyler3425 I'm not afraid that you can GFYS
@@Jason-hg1pc I'm not really, exactly sure, what GFYS means, so please at least - Jason - have the courage of your convictions and say what your mean in fully written out English so everyone can see precisely what you are saying. As I'm totally for free speech; always will be; and I'm especially for it when it comes from someone with whom it seems I may disagree, as I always like to be very, very clear as to what they are saying as I like to work toward understanding.
When I first looked at this response, too, I had thought the GFYS had meant 'Go F--k yourself.' However, in reading the whole sentence of "I'm not afraid that you can GFYS," that entirely makes no sense at all, so I want to give you a chance at clarification, so you're not permanently left with something here on the page that looks like a 7th grader wrote it.
@@christophertyler3425 😘
@@christophertyler3425 You know what I mean.
Thank you so much for doing this video. It is time the truth about Colonization was told.
Thank you for this video
THank you so much!!! Keep it up!!!
Being a coastal native and live on a reservation I know of racism it's here to this day. Your story is told with honor and respect thank you. American people must know the truth how native Americans where treated.
Thanks for the kind words! We’re glad we could tell the story right!
Thank you! I know it won't happen in my lifetime, but I long for a time when our bloody and sometimes evil and frightening, history will actually be told in our schools! That will be a wonderful time of enlightenment as to how we got where we are!
I know it will be very difficult because we can't even get our news media, nowadays, to agree on and tell the truth about what is happening in our country, now!
Awesome! Very informative
No neglected the hungate massacre
There is a movie..."The Soul of Silas" ~ Aaron Sayers & Jamey Crow Bartley. (the streets and statues in Denver, Colorado are named in honor of the perpetrators...) Heartwrenching!
I loved this video. I'm from Ecuador and I want know more for your history.
Wonderful job. Thank you for exposing the truth.
I used to live in Colorado, and one of my regrets is that I never got to see the site of the Sand Creek Massacre before I moved away. I think it's an atrocity and an important piece of history that should not be allowed to be forgotten.
Thank you so much, its nice to know that some will discuss such provocative subjects especially in such times as these.
My stepdad is a descendant of Black kettle, he had many wives and 17 children, they shortened their last name to Black, probably 1/4 of our tribes last name is Black, he wanted peace, I've been taught about him my whole life.
Well done!! Thank you for bringing fourth the truth as it is our responsibility to at least bare it's burden
As a descendant of the massacre at Sand Creek, thank you for this video.
Thank you for watching!
Wanting to offer my appreciation for the comprehensive nature of this youtube. I started seeking information about this event in history, as the result of a scene in the film Iron Man 3, where the "terrorist" sites (in brief) this masacre.
Thanks for the watch!
Thank you for an excellent and insightful story of the Sand Creek Massacre.
One of the episodes of the miniseries "Into The West" breifly shows the massacre of Sand Creek, and to be honest that was really all I knew about this. But here I am an OTR truck driver, and I was driving down hwy 297 when I noticed a sign for the Sand Creek site, and all I could think about was that episode. And right now I am watching this Re:wire video from the town of Kit Carson, just 30 miles from the site, understanding more than I ever have. Thanks for this wonderful video you guys made, and hopefully one day I can take some time off and see the sites that you visited.
That Into the West episode is probably where we first heard the name too! Kit Carson’s a nice little town- I hope you can make it down to the historic site soon!
There is a reference to this massacre in the classic western Little Bigman " you go down there General Custer cuz this ain't Washita and this ain't Sand Creek and those ain't women and children, those are braves, Sioux and Cheyenne, thousands of 'em and by the time they get through with you there ain't gonna be nothing left but a greasy spot on the ground" something like that.
It is disgusting to see a stone marker describing the slaughter here as a BATTLE! It was a battle the same way My Lai was during the Vietnam War.😞
As a New Mexico Native American, I too appreciate the effort you both took to research and expose the ugly truth of what has traditionally been an all too common theme in "American" history, the one in which we natives are only good when we lay our bodies down and feed mother earth with our blood, and lives. I don't want to be disrespectful of your work, but at this point ( after we've been laid low from our once lofty perch and had everything stripped of us) it's merely lip service to those old ones who tried so hard to keep us on our own lands, and walk the paths our ancestors taught us
Thanks for the comment, James. We agree entirely.
@@Rewiretube I don't usually comment on you tube videos, but THIS ONE hit pretty close to home and I felt compelled to say SOMETHING. As I stated before, but maybe not quite clearly enough, it is a good thing that you brought this DARKENED page into the glaringly harsh light of day. I only wish this would end up broadcast on PBS. It would open so many eyes wide shut. Kudos to you both. People talk spew rhetoric like word vomit of "making America great again," I think it an impossible task when it was built upon a legacy of lies, deliberate genocide , and out right theivery. Karma is a six armed Goddess who has no qualms with bitch slapping any one who incurs her wrath. Stay golden Pony boys
Great history lesson, guys. Thanks for sharing this. I think this also applies , to a much lesser degree, to Canada and how our Indigenous people have been treated by governments over so many years. Hey .... watching this vlog, I want to go back to high school and sid in your class. Great history teachers. 👍👍
Thanks for the support! We’re actually both English teachers
very nice work
I thoroughly enjoyed listening to your rendition of this history, as sad as it might be. You have researched the topic and have done justice to the subject. Thank-you for sharing this with us. Greetings from Israel.
I was born in Durango, Colorado and am part native! Thank you for telling the truth of what happened there. I cried watching, and breaks my heart for these people. Sometimes My blood boils in anger, but realize “ God seen it all “! And that not all white people are bad. What’s really sad is that, our government is run by the bad .
Atrocities met nearly every Indigenous Nation that dealt with the U.S..
Excellent.
I was in Junior High when I found a book in the Fort Collins CO. I became fascinated with this story. I learned how the government treated the native in Colorado.
What a awesome video. I did not know many lessons I just learned from the both of you. I just started self learning about the great plaines and how the plain indians were removed mostly violently from their lands, how sad that humans can be so evil to one another. This was a very good explanation of this massacre. I would like to come and see this site. Your students are very lucky to have you as teachers that care for truth as when I was in school this was never taught to me. I could go on but anyway...THANKS !!!
Thanks for the kind words!
Hi Re-wire. Brilliant video. Well done. I'm not native American. I'm British. What the American government did in that century. is unforgivable and I would be a shamed to call my self American. Just like wounded knee massacre. Cold blooded murder. That what that was. Thank guys for bring the story to light. I did not know about this. These stories have got to told. If I lived in that century I know who's side I'd be on Not the government that's for sure. I think the white man did this in fear because they do not understand. Shame on them. My respects to All the native American Indians tribes. Where ever they are. And the souls that you have lost. May they rest in peace. From 🇬🇧
Thanks for the comments, Maria!
The only way forward is to learn from the past and learn from it. I'm Native Alaskan, I learned about Wounded Knee just when I was about to graduate high school and join the military, instead I had to research and write about that horrible moment. Made it easy to stare down the jocks, and then the cops, but it also (truly 🤘) made my white friends into my family, because they weren't anything like that, and we acknowledged that century was over. I went to a Native American art school (IAIA, class of '99) and we covered more history, then I pointed out to my fellow students that my white friends who came to visit weren't anything like the murdering soldiers, so the good thing I got from the bad parts of the past was seeing some people I loved get along with each other.🤘 Today I'm giving you this little glimpse of the United States because I want you to know the "United" part's still legit😉
Excellent presentation. Thank you.
Thank you for the courage to present The Facts - Reading of "Unsettling Truths" by Authors Mark Charles and Soong-Chan Rah will further expand knowledge of the injustices, cruelty and genocidal massacres of Native Peoples and Tribes since first contact with white settlers. Truly, The Sins of the White Ancestral Fathers have left an unbearable debt on the shoulders of us, their Children - may we have the humility to beg forgiveness and contribute to the Restitution of the First Nation Peoples of Turtle Island.
I do get a bit tired of all the Turtle Island crap, everyone knows land was created by water beetle who piled up mud from the depths.
What a horror. I knew the story from Dee Brown's book. This presentation really adds to Mr. Brown's book. Thank you for that!
Only the Germans, as a nation, made an effort to face the horrors of their past and come to terms with it. The USA as a nation still has a distance to go to get close to reconciliation. I hope your classes help younger generations to appreciate all the peoples of the USA.
Teachers well done 😢 Thank-you, from a Southern Cheyenne-Arapaho. We lost Buffalo Wallow.
I am a colorado native. We learned about the sand creek massacre in colorado history, in 10 or 11 the grade. So it used to be taught.
Your channel should have way more subscribers considering a) the work you’ve put in and b) America needs this channel!! Please can you win the lottery, give up your day jobs and create an English colonial history channel as well?
That's the dream, man! Thanks for subscribing
I'm afraid the reason the channel fails to grow, which initially surprised me too, is that the teachers tend to do what those who they rightly disagree with have done. As they very clearly present history from a leftist point of view, in drawing many of their conclusions, when we are far more of a centrist nation in spite of our most recent politics. When, of course, the more recent left turn we took is in for a major course correction in the future. And history, itself - which they get right most of the time - should be told exactly as it was without opinion, I'm sure you would agree.
About time. Stange, as a Brit, I have been haunted by the massacre for the best part of 40 years, upon reading Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, when you guys were barely kids. We can ALL now recognise that "manifest destiny" was not about conquering all towards the Western seaboard of the continent, but rather, all of the long way round towards the Eastern seaboard. The USA may call itself many things, but "great" it can never be. Trusted, it may one day be, when the Bison once agsin are able to roam freely from north of the boarder to below south: then we can ALL recognise that there maybe some honour within the European population therein after all.
To Nick Ush
I am quite pleased you take interest in American History. I am Bruce from, ACROSS THE POND. Kudos to you and your mates! God Save The Queen!!!
America is certainly a great nation as it can be said, in spite of its mistakes, that America has undoubtedly done more to help the rest of the world, and in far less time, than any other country in the history of the world. While the truth is the Native Americans themselves committed many atrocities and they also held innocent people responsible for the actions of others. And when it came to the ownership of land and who controlled it, the Native Americans and the vast majority of tribes - felt that such decisions should be left to force and to those who were stronger, long before whites ever set foot in the New World and that is the truth and the tragedy of it. While white Europeans were simply stronger due to their weaponry. With it being a cold and cruel world in those days and I wonder why people think good will come, not from an honest history being told, but the continual portrayal of one race as morally superior to another?
@@christophertyler3425and look at this apologist for the most horrible things that the US has done. It’s people like you why the US govt, and other imperialist nations, continues to do horrible things to innocent people to this day
@@junsu21 Sir or ma'am, did Native Americans live in peace with each other? The answer is very much no. This is a common fallacy people believe in as well as that Native Americans lived in harmony with nature and did not disturb their ecosystem. The reality is that Native Americans fought frequently with each other and heavily modified their landscape.
@@christophertyler3425 you are engaging in whataboutism. No where did I state that the native Americans didn’t attack and kill each other. That is not distinctive. White people’s European ancestors did the same thing in Europe for centuries and still do so today. The point in this video is that no native, in north or South America, ever killed to the point of bringing themselves to near extinction and that is what Europeans and their descendants did in The Americas. That is an indisputable fact and attempts to sugarcoat or make it seem less bad are disgusting and wrong. Why do some of us still engage in this type of talk? Honestly. Can we just admit that we did people wrong ?!
Love it!
Captain Soule is buried at Riverside Cemetery in Denver, Colorado in the Civil War section.
Yep, we’ve visited his grave there!
Was at bents old fort last weekend didn’t get a chance to visit sand creek but I plan to return and visit
How’d you like the fort?
@@Rewiretube loved the site drove up from Texas to help do some living history interpretation will definitely return for another visit
Thank you. I always believed what I was taught in high school back 1964-1968 was not all. I have learned through reading books, watching wonderful PBS history and individuals who don't want to white wash our history of this country no matter how it makes one uncomfortable. The saddest event was the Trail of Tears and even today in some states indigenous people still fight for their land. I don't know what is currently being taught but the hysteria surrounding critical race theory has led many to become the new accusers and others victims. Salem witch trials all over again. This time, politicians used to further frighten and perpetuate ignorance.
Why do you have to make it a competition for "sadness"?? What is gained with that?
This video is about Sand Creek. It isn't "less than". Just as they say, the history has been hidden. If it isn't important to you, that's your value system. But it's not helpful to the effort to educate people about Colorado history to say it's not as sad as some other event.
Great to see this work is being done as history is complicated and we need the truth to be told. If we never make amends for our past there us no future
If u weren't told the truth go back to a real school
Brilliant!!
Excellent interpretation of a terrible day in our history.Thank you!
Thanks, Jeff!
@Re:wire My Southern Cheyenne and Arapaho paid for the land that Sand creek sits on. I went there for the first time in March 2021. I went where the massacre happened at with my tribes and the Rangers permission to go to the actual site. It was calm when I was smudging off the spirits with my sun dance cedar. Thank you for the video story! You did a good job researching. I like to get a copy of the dog soldier photo. Where can I get one?
The photo we showed of the four Dog Soliders? If you drop an email or shoot us one to rewiretube@gmail.com, we can send you the one we used. I don't know about physical copies though
@@Rewiretube I already got a copy of the Cheyenne Dog Soldier pic. Thanks And thanks for this story on the video. Even though, I read most in my university classes and book pertaining to the massacre.
My heart is crying for the oppression and outright cruelty these people experienced. Colonel Chivington was not punished for his crimes against humanity. He was a Mason, so there’s that explained.
For Governor Evans the following was applicable as per book text: “He (Evans) explained to Wynkoop that Washington officials had given him permission to raise the new regiment because he had sworn it was necessary for protection against hostile Indians, and if he now made peace the Washington politicians would accuse him of misrepresentation. There was political pressure on Evans from Coloradans who wanted to avoid the military draft of 1864 by serving in uniform against a few poorly armed Indians rather than against the Confederates farther east. “
From the little i’ve learned these few days (after reading the book) as a Namibian is that the Indians:
> Is a loving, kind, honorable, nature nurturing peaceful people
> were extremely oppressed & massacred due to the greed of men’s hearts
> are to date, despite some efforts, still oppressed with limited infra structure support from government in some areas
I pray to the God Almighty (Big Spirit) that they be relinquished and set free and provided for justly.
Thank you.
The US Army's official position is that Sand Creek was the work of the Colorado Territorial Militia.
Sand creek is far from unusual.
And the big question…and we know the answer…why can’t these great teachers talk about this stuff with their students ? Because of bullshit politics. This country is so fucked up
Well presented and supported by facts. Parts of American History that need to be revised and rewritten... and taught in the light of truth: Labor History is also part of American History; Black History is also part of American History; and The Native American betrayals- from Plymouth up to present day are also part of American History. The Indian Removal Act which made way for a growing and expanding cotton industry was the base for the Confederacy. All part of American History and all of which needs to be rewritten and re-taught.
Class love it
thanks, guys!
Only rocks live forever
We are still here
It wasn`t the US-army that perpetrated the Sand Creek Massacre against the southern Cheyenne and their friends
the Arapahoes. It was a Colorado "volunteer - army" set up by Chivington who called himself a "colonel".
If s.b. was responsible for the massacre other than Chivington and his private army it was the the
governor of Colorado Evans who let the massacre happen. The massacre of the Hungate- family
which served as motivation for Chivington-massacre wasn`t perpetrated by the Cheyennes but by the Arapahoes
over a quarrel for horses.
Thank you very much.
I'm Cree; northern territories we call canada, these days. Canada is an unnatural structure on my lands, which happens to be the legacy of massacre after massacre after massacre. I'm a refugee of canada, and my family and community endured catholic church sexual abuses, operated in tandem with government, those residential schools.. of which there have been 24 mass graves, uncovered and unearthed, from coast to coast, little native children, massacred with impunity. Over 6500 children skeletons found in these graves. I have a personal history of being legally thieved from my father.. adopted out and far away from my original family and imagine my surprise when, as a broken adult, i'm sitting in a healing lodge and i have a big emotional scene because i'm experiencing a *body memory*. That memory of being chased by blue coats, big hats and really stinky... they're on horseback, i am not; i'm hiding and i see them cresting a hill... then stabbing pain in my upper right quadrant. That happened to me.. the memory. There's more. So i don't feel that far away from this Sand Creek age and time. It was hard to listen to but only because I'm well schooled in the lies they tell to manipulate the situation. What they couldn't manipulate they murdered. what they couldn't murder outright; they're assimilating.It's appropriate to bring this into modern times. Cause and Effect. The lives now lived on turtle island is why they massacred us. Now people want to talk inclusion ? f*ck off with that. there's wrong... to be made right.
I am Native American I wasn't told anything about it,it was so sad we had a right to live
Excellent video.Where I live in Northwest California,we have the largest American Indian population in the state.Unfortunately,during the Gold Rush era,dozens of massacres occured.
To understand more,read "Indian Tears Along the Mad River"",by Rick Ruja.
I am 66 and I have never heard the story before thanks it goes to show you government never tell you the truth
This was well done, but as an avid reader of the history of these times, I have never read any account of Sand Creek that didn’t describe it as a massacre and one of many examples of the mistreatment of the Indian tribes of the Plains and the Southwest. The historian Stephen E. Ambrose published a work in 1975 called “Crazy Horse and Custer.” It was an even-handed simultaneous biography of both Crazy Horse and George Custer leading up to the Little Bighorn. What I remember best about the book was his statement (and I can’t quote it directly) that “It is impossible to overstate the ignorance and arrogance of the treatment of the Indians by the U.S. government.” Most people today are unaware of Sand Creek because they are unaware of and uninterested in history, not because it has been covered up.
Just one other comment. You seem to refer to the Civil War as a war over abolishing or maintaining slavery. The war was much more complicated than that. The Confederacy justified the war as a way to maintain its way of life, a way of life that included slavery, from what it saw as Northern aggression. It wasn’t until Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation, that slavery became a major issue in the war, and it didn’t free any slaves because it applied only to slaves held in states in rebellion. Delaware and Maryland were both slave states that didn’t secede, and the slaves in those states continued to be slaves even after the Emancipation Proclamation. Moreover, the Proclamation was more a political document designed to keep the French and the English from supporting the Confederacy. Neither country wanted to be seen as fighting to protect slavery. So, was slavery an issue in the Civil War? Of course. Was it fought to free the slaves? No.
The current FT. Lyon is not the site of the events around the Sand Creek Massacre. The Ft. Lyon was DOWN THE HILL FROM BENTS NEW FORT.
That’s correct- we had a commenter correct us on that a month or two ago. Thanks for the comment!
I think it was Sheridan who said " the only good indian I ever saw was dead "..after a Cheyenne at a council said " me good Indian "..though Chivington was the same type..as well as that governor Evans character
So many don't understand that "keep them under control", and that they're still doing that today. The federal funds that go to tribes? Can only be used certain ways. If they have a casino, they have certain rules. If their casino is successful (not many are, after all the overhead), they're still not allowed to turn away those federal funds, as that would make them more independent, and the US government comes down hard on them.
I know that the government committed horrific things to the native Americans, but why is it, that our history does not teach the things that the native Americans did to peaceful settlers?
Some of the things the native Americans did to peaceful settlers is why the us government committed some of the acts toward the native American.
You know, I think this question might have been asked honestly, so I'm going to try to give an honest answer. I'm sorry it's long, but I don't know how to answer it any more briefly.
First, I think the premise of the question is wrong, at least from our experience. When we were in school, Native Americans were portrayed in an exceedingly negative light, outside of the cartoonish examples we were given of the first Thanksgiving. Outside of that mostly false story, Native Americans were portrayed as "savages" who were primitive and warlike. When Manifest Destiny was covered in our history classes, almost no mention of the fact was given that we were invading land that had belonged to these tribes for tens of thousands of years. Native names, culture, and history didn't matter, because we only discussed Native Americans when it involved friction with the US.
Second, I think it's more worth discussing the US's wrongs against Native Americans because it was literally a genocide that isn't talked about as such. We stole their land, killed their people, and decimated their culture and then told generations of our students a version where they innocuously moved to reservations so that we could nobly stretch the US from coast to coast. In our national imagination, Native Americans are largely just an obstacle for white western John Wayne heroes to conquer.
Last, I don't think that's a discussion that supports an accurate viewpoint. If you're referring to the Hungate Massacre or something like it, yes, a family was killed, and they might have been killed by Arapaho. The Hungate murders were used as an excuse for Sand Creek. But Black Kettle, White Antelope, and the others at Sand Creek were peace chiefs, not war chiefs. So if those murders were committed by Arapaho, they weren't part of the bands that were slaughtered at Sand Creek. It's like murdering Irish people in retribution for something the English did. Additionally, I think that sets a dangerous precedent, saying something akin to, "Well, the Sand Creek massacre wasn't that bad (or worse, they had it coming) because Native Americans killed people too."
I hope that answers your question.
@@Rewiretube . Makes me think of the treaty made that said no emigrants would settle in the black hills..only the U.S. military couldn't keep it so because of gold crazy people..the only way would be to kill them in order to keep them out of Lakota homes..or let the Lakota and others kill them but that wouldn't happen..so they full on broke the treaty and protected squatters..I would fight also if needed..only I would have told people they have to run away ..its what my relatives did..with at least so.e benefit
Need to make a correction on Mo-Chi being the only female prisoner of war. There's a few Native women were being held as prisoner of war such as Lozen an Chiricahua Apache warrior and she died in prison at Mount Vernon in Alabama.
Thanks for that info, Richard! We looked up Lozen and thought we’d share this page with anyone who might be reading through these comments: www.notesfromthefrontier.com/amp/native-warrior-women
The English three like massacres in Ireland in the 1570’s a decade before the Roanoke colony. Americans would do well to study this period as it shows that the habits we see later in the Americas manifesting themselves in the English’s first colonial venture-Ireland.
The title is misleading. The US Army did not participate in the Sand Creek massacre. Chivington and the state militia carried out the atrocity. In fact the US Army officer in charge of federal troops present refused to take part and was initially court martialed because of his refusal (charges later dropped).
Did you watch the video?
Pretty clear he did not
@@Rewiretube while this isn't, it turned out that 2 company commander actually did refused to fire and order their man not to shoot. Several written paper actually condemned the massacre and in fact every time their dependency go to the site, they also go to these two officers graves
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12:31 that's exactly what they were gangsters in uniform
Very well done!
Another in the long list of shameful episodes in our dealings with Native Americans.
"The Fighting Parson" also reminds one of all the truly horrible things done by self- professed "Christians".
While it's true that Native Americans committed many atrocities as well, that does not excuse the wholesale slaughter and mutilation of innocents by the U.S. army. Unfortunately that was another theme in our dealings with Native Americans, holding innocent people responsible for the actions of others. It seems that any indian would do when seeking revenge, no matter their personal guilt or innocence.
Makes one wonder who was the true "savage"...
I'm afraid the truth is, as you even admit, the Native Americans themselves committed many atrocities and they also held innocent people responsible for the actions of others. And when it came to the ownership of land and who controlled it, the Native Americans and the vast majority of tribes - felt that such decisions should be left to force and to those who were stronger, long before whites ever set foot in the New World and that is the truth and the tragedy of it.
@@christophertyler3425 All true.
I think white European culture definitely has Native Americans beat in the hypocrisy department though. Especially self-proclaimed "Christians" like Chivington. I'm not an expert, but I hope Jesus would be horrified by the atrocities committed by Chivington and his men.
This is a great video and it requires a lot of courage to expose what really happened in Sand Creek. And this truth comes from two white men that are aligned with the truth! The word “massacre” is another word that the darkness use for the Battle of Little Big Horn because in that battle an American idol lost not only the battle but also his life. A massacre from Natives Americans and that’s not the truth, it was a battle. In this case in the Sand Creek valley, Washita and in Wounded Knee it was a massacre.
Thanks for the comment!
Please keep posting videos! Peace&Light!
How does "race" differ from "tribe" in usage here?
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You need to check out William Carr or Kerr he was a black man born on a plantation in Virginia in 1760's but wasn't a slave he became a longhunter like Daniel boone