IMJIN WAR Ep. 20 - Second Invasion: Japanese Advance Inland

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  • @mistergeopolitics4456
    @mistergeopolitics4456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This is easily one of the most underrated history channels on youtube. Thanks again for another great video.

  • @bkjeong4302
    @bkjeong4302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    For those wondering what the hell Admiral Yi was doing during all this: he'd just been reinstated and was trying to reassemble whatever was left of his navy after Chilcheonryang. His insane victory at Myeongnyang will be next on this series as it's within weeks of the events in this video.

    • @skyereave9454
      @skyereave9454 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also recovering physically. Torture usually isn't gentle on old bones

  • @FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC
    @FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Interesting thing about the potters is that in Confucian society (Korea), potters and artisans were regarded as lower class so they were paid little money and respect. Meanwhile the Japanese government did all they could to keep the profitable Korean potters in Japan (money, incentives, etc) so after the war when the Potters were given a chance to return to their home, many chose to remain in Japan. Perhaps it was the money. Perhaps it's because their homes in Korea were devastated and their families and friends already killed (so no point of going back to korea). Anyways it's interesting that most Korean potters chose to stay in Japan.

    • @soyayi_love
      @soyayi_love 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And those potters were treated as almost same as samurai . It was so obvious for them to stay in japan rather than go back to korea. It is our shameful history that joseon dynasty intentionally degraded artian and tech groups to lowest level,so that elite scholars group can maintain their supreme noble class. Lack of development in high tech and refusal to adapting western civilization were the main reason why later joseon became colonized by japan.

    • @FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC
      @FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@soyayi_love The Confucian Yangban class let Joseon rot for centuries. Neo Confucianism, as far as I know, is the only ideology in the world that actively hated technology and reversed progress. One infamous example is the Yangban class purposely making roads narrower and unmaintained as they believed large roads and developed infrastructure would make the lower class "wander off" too much physically and psychologically.
      Some far-right Japanese believe Japan rose over China and Korea in the 19th-20th century because of "superior blood and intelligence." However the truth is that they were successful simply because they accepted Westernization many decades earlier. The Chinese and Koreans were too proud to accept new technology, and they paid for it.

    • @soyayi_love
      @soyayi_love 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC thank you for your sharing a knowledge about our history. I admire your interests in our culture. By the way current north korean regime actually adapt joseon political ideologies into their social engineering to gain total social control. Once again thanks

    • @FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC
      @FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@soyayi_love Yes I always shared the view that modern North Korean "Juche" share many similarities with the isolationist Joseon mindset. I always called North Korea the "Kim Dynasty kingdom" as it's just like Joseon. Heck, they like to call their nation "Joseon" for a reason.
      Also I am Korean.

  • @Werner4voss
    @Werner4voss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    slaughter and rape was so common during this 2nd invasion, whenever I read first hand accounts of such atrocities, I cannot help myself from tearing up thinking of my ancestors

    • @laviebanale
      @laviebanale 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It’s easy to blame the Hideyoshi and the Japanese but the Koreans often forget to do is put the blame on the incompetency of the King Sonjo and his idiotic cronies. Had they had some common sense and not been complacent this would not have been so devastating. Hideyoshi was threatening for over a year. If some crazy f^cker threatened me for that period of time, I would’ve at least done three things: A) Call the cops. B) Arm myself w/ guns, knives, and etc. C) Alert my friends and neighbors. As you study Korean history, you’ll see this is a common theme.

    • @토론배틀tv
      @토론배틀tv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@laviebanale korea had responsibility to defend themselves. That point i agree. But no matter what, massacrer is far more to be blamed.

    • @samirius6730
      @samirius6730 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@laviebanale The weakness of your enemy doesn't allow you to commit all this atrocities which are against the human nature.
      And so you wouldn't understand this collective memory of suffering still present today even after centuries
      Nothing justifies savagery and barbarity and terror on civilians, not even an attempt of historical contextualisation.

    • @mq7447
      @mq7447 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@laviebanale Seonjo actually did try to prepare for the invasion, although albeit not by much.

    • @laviebanale
      @laviebanale 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      M Q please educate me. What the Japanese did was terrible and should beg the Koreans for forgiveness. There’s no doubt about that. However, with that being said, just like when a child is hurt or does sth wrong, it’s the parents’ fault for neglect and complacency. King sonjo and his Confucian scholars had a responsibility to protect their people. They FAILED miserably. You had a war machine in Japan that had been perfecting their craft for a century w/ it’s psychic tyrant in Hideyoshi. All this was right door to them. They suddenly start making threats for over a year and what did the King Sonjo and his genius advisers (western faction) do? “They’re just dwarf barbarians w/ their slow arquebus (muskets). Wtf can do they possible do to us? The Ming dynasty has our back! The Jurchens are a bigger threat.” As you study Korean history, it’ll be crystal clear that this is a reoccurring problem during Joson dynasty.

  • @mariemoraby3502
    @mariemoraby3502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was waiting for the new episode so badly.
    Happy watching it.

  • @andreagullo1700
    @andreagullo1700 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The Corea family from the town of Albi in the Calabria region of southern Italy claims to be descended from that Korean man named Antonio. If this is true, probably that man is the first Italian-korean in history and the first Korean to enter the Western world and permanently live in a Western country.

    • @forgotmyusername2
      @forgotmyusername2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wow, do you have anything I can read about this? I am really interested to see this

    • @andreagullo1700
      @andreagullo1700 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@forgotmyusername2 the first time I read a very short mention in an awsome book on Korean history written by the Italian Professor Maurizio Riotto. I doubt there is any English translation of this book because it was made for Italian readers, but if it exists also in English you should find it in book stores simply as: "History of Korea: from origins to present day" (the mention is in "Chapter VII. The Joseon period" , part 3 "The political struggles and the Japanese aggression").

    • @forgotmyusername2
      @forgotmyusername2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@andreagullo1700 wow that is amazing, this is really great, thank you for this

    • @wk4341
      @wk4341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This make sense because Korea used to be spelled with a C. That's another story tho.

    • @andreagullo1700
      @andreagullo1700 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@wk4341 we italians still say and write "Corea" because the K letter is not part of our alphabet

  • @fullmetalx225
    @fullmetalx225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As tragic as slavery is, I can't help but think of the wonders the one slave that made his way to Europe must have seen and experienced in his lifetime. Incredible story, thanks for another great episode!

  • @TheSocialAlchemy
    @TheSocialAlchemy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great production Samuel! Thank you!

  • @luisa.melendezalbizu4459
    @luisa.melendezalbizu4459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wao. This is an incredible story. Looking forward to the rest of the videos.

  • @Eduardo_Ventura
    @Eduardo_Ventura 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Francesco Carletti is my ancestor. He was a Florentine merchant who was disgusted with slavery. It seems that "Antonio Corea" as the Korean guy was called in Italy lived free. There are some region in Italy with some traditions similar to the Korean ones. It is believed to be related to Antonio's.
    Thanks for bringing it up, Samuel! Loved this series!

  • @lawrencelow949
    @lawrencelow949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I picked up the book yesterday. Wow! It's a hefty tome! 600+ pages! It's mostly dense text though, so this video series is a very good complement to it! 🥰🥰🥰👍

  • @Almakoreana
    @Almakoreana 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    When Japan memorize Hiroshima victims this week,
    they should also remember Koreans they had slaughtered during the Imjin war. Thanks for the timely posting.

    • @ElBandito
      @ElBandito 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Imjin War happened over 400 years ago so no sense doing that. The Japanese should instead remember WWII and officially apologize for their atrocities back then.

    • @terryhsiao1745
      @terryhsiao1745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't forget the ones they kill in world war 2

    • @deanzaZZR
      @deanzaZZR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@terryhsiao1745 Or the Korean workers that were forced to work in Japan during the war. I'm sure some died in the atomic bomb attack in Hiroshima, even some POWs did.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is why I feel Japan has no right to remember Hiroshima.

    • @Almakoreana
      @Almakoreana 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@deanzaZZR
      Some 20,000 ethnic Korean residents of Hiroshima are believed to have died in the nuclear attack. The city, a wartime military hub, had a large number of Korean workers, including those forced to work without pay at mines and factories under Japan’s colonization of the Korean Peninsula from 1910 to 1945. - AP, August 4, 2020

  • @artboiartypants9171
    @artboiartypants9171 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This ep made me sad. Thank you

  • @Devilboy4089
    @Devilboy4089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OOOOOH THE CLIMAX'S COMING ! THANKS PROF HAWLEY !

  • @if131
    @if131 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been eagerly waiting all week for this. Thank you sir

  • @leon19736
    @leon19736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Same feeling as you wait for new " Game of throne" film. The diference is that it is an internet film produced by a single man.

  • @robertblue3795
    @robertblue3795 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is hands down your best writing to date in this series.

  • @deanzaZZR
    @deanzaZZR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My wife and I visited Hagi, Yamaguchi Prefecture (main Island of Honshu) a year and a half ago. Many ceramic studios and shops remain and the products are lovely but it's still a very sad legacy.

  • @daniclau10
    @daniclau10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    big fan here, I just bought your book on Imjin war, keep up with the good work. I previously only read the battle from Ming's perspective, it is refreshing to look at it from a neutral perspective.

  • @ardenroen335
    @ardenroen335 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Darn it I had to buy the book. Thank you

  • @Jon.A.Scholt
    @Jon.A.Scholt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just want to say to Mr (or is is Professor?) Hawley, I read your book about 5 years ago and when I found this channel I was super excited to watch to your video as a companion to the excellent book. I have read many many History texts, from the ancient to the modern, hi h primary and secondary and had heard almost nothing about this conflict. Sadly my collection is not large when it comes to east Asia. But this sounded awesome as I had read a little about the Sengoku period. Let me say the was a great read; flowed very well and didn't get bogged down so that a first timer on the topic didn't get lost. I don't know if you'll read this but great job and I look forward to you future works! Jon S. BA History Michigan State University 2007.

    • @realsamuelhawley
      @realsamuelhawley  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment, Jon! I'm glad you liked the book.

  • @lloydburbidge9788
    @lloydburbidge9788 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic series, totally absorbing. Congratulations and many thanks.

  • @rowanwood5397
    @rowanwood5397 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video series

  • @andrewlee1761
    @andrewlee1761 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent! Thank you for your work!

  • @gfmhwhcefaijr7121
    @gfmhwhcefaijr7121 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great series!! One of my favorite on TH-cam right now!

  • @robertscicluna4384
    @robertscicluna4384 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic as always! keep up the good work :)

  • @captainaffection
    @captainaffection 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love you men. Great series

  • @sinoroman
    @sinoroman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ming finally pushing back, although much later. good work

    • @daniclau10
      @daniclau10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ming's army has alot of internal issue, Ma Gui is from the Liaodong army, and there's another fraction from southern china, the 2 army's politic plays a great role in the first invasion of the Imjin war.

  • @saifgauchan6619
    @saifgauchan6619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello Samuel, I have become a big fan.

  • @ltmatthewakj2466
    @ltmatthewakj2466 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh after this Battle of Myeongmyang? Nice. I don't know the previous campaign in second invasion before battle of Myeongmyang. Good

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Myengnyang's coming up next.

  • @itsrye8001
    @itsrye8001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In some places:
    In Manchuria, the Jurchens offered Military assistance to Joseon and Ming but was totally refused. Citing it is shameful for Joseon to accept assistance from the "Barbarians" up north.
    In Japan, Tokugawa Ieyasu is acquiring more wealth and influence as days passes. Gaining positively from an agreement made between him and Toyotomi Hideyoshi years before. He will be in a better position to contend and take the rein off of Hideyoshi's heir later on. Kickstarting the Tokugawa Shogunate.
    In Korea, Admiral Yi is gearing up, in what his men thinks is a suicide mission against a massive Japanese fleet. A battle which will cement his name in History.
    Edit: Let's stay tuned to this channel, guys.

    • @98765432123456789000
      @98765432123456789000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wow, the jurchen's would've seriously dealt them blow on land im sure. i suppose that would've also hindered korea's relationship with Ming if they were to accept such offer i would assume?

    • @theredbar-cross8515
      @theredbar-cross8515 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@98765432123456789000 The Jurchens were obviously not offering assistance for free. It was a pretext for them to invade and seize the northeast corner for Korea. They wouldn't have done anything to stop the Japanese.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theredbar-cross8515 The Jurchens actually did invade Korea later on and got the Koreans to capitulate, though they let us keep our government and have self-rule as a tributary state.

    • @protestantwarrior1411
      @protestantwarrior1411 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theredbar-cross8515 The Jurchens wanted to help because of mother country is Korea according to letter sent to Joseon embassry.

    • @bleek8393
      @bleek8393 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would've been really a two front invasion with pretext for a Jurchen invasion. The Jurchens also had previous border clashes with Joseon and Ming, and would later go on to invade Ming, then Joseon - becoming the Qing.

  • @다랑이-b6q
    @다랑이-b6q 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So Hideyoshi found Japan incapable of advancing to China at all and to avoid blame on his ridiculous campaign, he ordered to build a mountain of noses instead. How damn savage Japan were.

    • @MrBlabax
      @MrBlabax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In any medieval war, the losers will always be on the receiving end of war atrocities. The Japanese themselves were no exception. During the attempted invasion of Japan in 1274 & 1281 by Korea, thousands of Japanese civilians were massacred by the invading Korean troops.

    • @sinoroman
      @sinoroman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MrBlabax oh, the mongol invasion. why are you spinning it as the korean invasion? lol

    • @MrBlabax
      @MrBlabax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The war was fought under the name of the Yuan (Mongol), but the main bulk of the invading forces in the first invasion were actually ethnic Korean soldiers (Han Chinese in the second).

    • @terryhsiao1745
      @terryhsiao1745 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They still are

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm Your Daddy
      Because the Mongols forcibly conscripted them....

  • @gatotcka5017
    @gatotcka5017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow that was brutal

  • @stephanjames9210
    @stephanjames9210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Native American Indian warrior carried the image or label of the “noble savage” very well (albeit bestowed upon them by Euopean settler-colonists). This episode (and series) further dispels the myth of the Japanese samurai as noblemen in any true sense... they were simply, merely savages all too many times in their country’s history (and the vast majority of their victims were actually their fellow Japanese). Yes, the art of the tea ceremony and Noh theatre and ikebana flower arranging notwithstanding.

  • @flaviuslupu2532
    @flaviuslupu2532 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHY NO FURTHER EPISODES ???????????????

  • @andrewlankford9634
    @andrewlankford9634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mound of ears. Sure, that's far less cruel.

  • @Jon.A.Scholt
    @Jon.A.Scholt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ma Gui could never replace Big Sword Liu

  • @돈데크만-r2i
    @돈데크만-r2i 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Koreans regard Yi Sun-shin as the national hero. Without him, South Korea disappeared 500 years ago.

  • @mykls8712
    @mykls8712 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the best way to get your book?

  • @seanpoore2428
    @seanpoore2428 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    man that music is waaayyyyyy too loud.........WAY too loud.
    Excellent series though! I've always wanted to know more about this period

  • @franklinfranco7070
    @franklinfranco7070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    F the world how channel does not have millon of views

  • @22ryanoc
    @22ryanoc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The killing of civilians...why?

    • @peterk6431
      @peterk6431 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Japanese dna. Not the first time.

    • @22ryanoc
      @22ryanoc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Politics religion and culture are not our friends...

    • @22ryanoc
      @22ryanoc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      loki katzbalger why not kill civilians? Lol. Terence McKenna said culture is not our friend because it gives us a false sense of who we are we are spiritual beings living in earthly existence.

    • @22ryanoc
      @22ryanoc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      loki katzbalger it’s not my decision anyway. Who knows.

    • @Iloveyounot
      @Iloveyounot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Japanese were called the barbarians back then by China and Korea.

  • @AcheLone
    @AcheLone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:12 there's 2 chonju?

    • @Werner4voss
      @Werner4voss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the upper one should be written as Chongju. I think its a simple misspelling mistake

    • @AcheLone
      @AcheLone 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Werner4voss thx for the info

  • @cyncus1
    @cyncus1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hideyoshi still burns in hell today. His deplorable and barbaric acts against Korean civilians is unparallaled up to that point in East Asian history. Karma catches up with him when Tokugawa betrays and dethrones his only son and heir, Hideyori setting up the Tokugawa Shogunate.

    • @johnyjsl9219
      @johnyjsl9219 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      well I thought the mongols did the same..

  • @Sodier8345
    @Sodier8345 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was surprised to see in the written record of those nose receipts that the Japanese were dating them using the 12 month western calendar. I didn’t think the western calendar was used in the Far East until at least the 19th century. Does anybody know when they started using the western calendar in the Far East?

    • @yaleyoon6856
      @yaleyoon6856 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Late 19th century, 1890s for Korea but the lunar calendar was used along with the solar calendar and that's how it is today for the most part, although western solar calender is the major one now

  • @CALEB-eb4hk
    @CALEB-eb4hk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice series. I really enjoyed your vedio. I think you need to explain about the squandering of Ming chinese army. During Imjin war, There were so many tyranny of Ming chinese army. People who read history should learn a lesson about tragedy of war. Once nation is fallen, Every individual's life also fallen together.

  • @hobbyist1001
    @hobbyist1001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FRANCESCO CARLETTI IS ALSO A TRUE HERO AND SAINT! BUYS HIS OWN SLAVES JUST TO FREE THEM !

  • @한민족-d7u
    @한민족-d7u 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not accurate through the translator. Sorry. First of all, thank you for uploading this video. They cut their noses to reduce volume, but later renamed them ears by descendants to glorify the cruelty of their ancestors. And crushed by stones, the ghosts of Korean ancestors at that time did not appear in Japan for a long time. What's more interesting is that not many Japanese currently know exactly what these tombs mean. Even if they find out, they will ignore or distort. Descendants cover the sins of their ancestors. This is Japan. Another is that Japan, which was not capable of making pottery at the time, stole Korean vessels and kidnapped the potters with a knife. And in modern times, it is said that Korea stole Japan's modernization technology. When they cut their noses, the semiconductors on Earth were ceramics. South Korea has the right to forgive them, but strangely the opposite is now happening. Thanks again for uploading this video. from Korea.....

  • @Iloveyounot
    @Iloveyounot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've read that all the kidnapped artisans who were shipped to Japan helped Japan improve their pottery and many were forced to change their Korean names to Japanese names. To this date, many "Japanese" do not know that they have Korean heritage.

  • @Stella-w2v
    @Stella-w2v 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How could human being be so crual and act like animal?
    Shame on Japan! No apologize.

  • @bernardlim128
    @bernardlim128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wonder if the Korean civilian during that time understand it is better to fight to death than being taken as prisoner to be mutilated later? I would have fought to my death. But who know, maybe under such fear most people will lost all courage.

  • @notWrld
    @notWrld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so heartless

  • @ltmatthewakj2466
    @ltmatthewakj2466 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    First comment?

  • @Rikoko320
    @Rikoko320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Koreans and Mongols invaded Iki and Tsushima (small Japanese islands off Kyushu) in the 13th century. They annihilated these two islands and nailed local residents to the prows of their ships, then attempted to invade Kyushu, which they failed to do. If they had succeeded in landing, they would have killed as many Japanese as possible. In the medieval era, humans were brutal everywhere.

    • @laviebanale
      @laviebanale 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That’s a cheap copout. The Korea was under the control of the Mongol empire. The Koreans had no say in invading Japan. It was either join or die.

    • @captain0310
      @captain0310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So Bushido Code all bullshit?

    • @tkgrizzly4565
      @tkgrizzly4565 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's kind of a poor argument, similiar to that of some sloppy 'two wrongs make a right' statement with a reference to an irrelevant invasion the mongols decided to launch. You're really getting your point across.

    • @captain0310
      @captain0310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Humans were brutal everywhere??? Mmmm so it was justifiable for the US to nuke the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?