Thanks for your time and effort to show us , those marvelous safety razor , any man must get this , for one reason , feeling the love and true adventures to been MAN !!!
@MarkSzorady what a great detailed educational breakdown of wet shaving products for beginners. This video is a Master Class & TedTalks for wet shaving.
My current razors are the Assured butterfly from Dollar Tree and the Merkur 25c and the Merkur 39c. Yes I'm aware that the Merkurs aren't usually recommended for new shavers but some reviewers /users recommend them because they are efficient rather than aggressive. Thoughts?
Useful video. For those interested, TTO razors should be oiled with 3-in-1 oil every three months. Apply the oil at both hinges, on both doors, and through the top and bottom to lube the open/close mechanism. One drop at each location is all it takes. This helps ensure smooth operation and longevity.
These are very nice razors for beginners (i started out with an Edwin Jagger DE89 Kelvin). I wasn't getting the results I had hoped to get, but after using a variety of other razors wished I had started out with an adjustable razor first. Adjustable safety razors can provide a very mild shave (best for beginners) to a moderately aggressive shave (for those with thicker beard growth). So, if you're hoping to try wet shaving maybe consider these adjustable safety razors -- Merkur 'Progress' (various sizes) - continuously adjustable safety razor for around $55 shipped from Connaught Shaving UK Merkur 'Futur' (various finishes) -- a more aggressive continuously adjustable safety razor for around $67 shipped from Connaught Shaving UK Parker 'Variant' (various finishes) -- continuously adjustable safety razor for around $58 (plus shipping) from various sources Rockwell '6C' -- adjustable plate system safety razor (which may not be as convenient for some) for around $50 (plus shipping) from various sources Viking's Blade 'Crusader' -- Gillette 'Fatboy' inspired continuously adjustable safety razor for around $57 (plus shipping) from various sources Ming Shi 2000S -- Chinese Merkur 'Futur' clone -- continuously adjustable safety razor for around $10-20 (plus shipping) from various sources (including AliExpress) Ming Shi 3000S -- Chinese Gillette 'Fatboy' inspired continuously adjustable safety razor for around $10 (plus shipping) from AliExpress -- search for 'faroot adjustable razor' Of these, I'd perhaps recommend the Parker 'Variant' (due to it's improvements based on the Merkur 'Progress') or the Rockwell '6C' for a beginner. Yes, most of these are more expensive than an Edwin Jagger DE89 or Merkur 34C (or cheaper clones of those razors from Italian Barber, Maggard Razors, West Coast Shaving and other sources), but adjustable razors will better suit your skill level, beard growth and (in my experience) lessen any need to buy other safety razors -- making it (perhaps) a better long term investment. If most of these are still our of your budget, one of the cheapest options is the 'Assured Double-Edge Safety Razor with 5 Blades' from Dollar Tree for only $1 (if you have a Dollar Tree store in your area and they have them in stock). It's not adjustable, but it's a very affordable safety razor to consider.
Yes, an adjustable razor is another way to start.:) I especially like using an adjustable razor because, although my shave may be completed after only two passes, I can dial it all the way down and still do an enjoyable third ATG pass.:) Good listing of ajustables.:) Thanks!:)
Hi Mark- A very nice overview of some nice mild razors; thank you! I did use the 34C when I started wet shaving again; great introductory razor, for sure. I also found it to be a nice razor to use when testing more aggressive blades and provided a bit of a cushion, so to speak. I hope you are fairing a little better with the cold weather. Take care and all the best!
Hi Mark, thanks for the videos, I'm learning a lot! My issues with the EJ are its high cost for a beginner razor and the screw tends to break off in the handle if dropped ;that's unacceptable for a $30 razor... Schone, high cost. Fatip Grande, there are several reports of QC issues, version 1 heads? I'm in the market for another 2 budget razors and the Chieftain Jr is on the list, along with the Feather Popular, Timor 1327, Weishi,), Lord A6 and the Wilkinson #Sword Classic. Which 2 would you pick and why?
Hi, Duncan Wynn Jr. I'd pick the Chieftain, Jr. for sure.:) Given Vikings Blade's tracke record on quaility, the razor is goingot be spot on for bladd alignment and balance. If not, for whatever reason, Vikings Blade will stand behind it. The Lord A6 is nice and mild, but be aware of the lightweight handle. It might throw you off just a bit. I prefer heavier handles so the razor does all the work. I liked the shave.:) I've heard good things about the Wilkinson Sword, but have never used one. I was also impressed by the mildness of the Classic Samurai CS-201: th-cam.com/video/xgiolDvaUsM/w-d-xo.html You can find it on Amazon at: th-cam.com/video/xgiolDvaUsM/w-d-xo.html I can't really speak to the Q/C on this one, though. The CS-201 I received gave a nice mild shave. At just under $15.00, you may get one that is milder or one that is a bit more aggressive. But of the four Classic Samurai razors I own, this one is the mildest. Lastly, the best bet for a good, low cost razor is to keep a lookout for a vintage Gillette Super Speed at yard sales, estate sales, etc. Some wet shavers come across these at yard sales in great condition for only a couple of bucks. Again, it might take some time to find this kind of deal, but simply keep it in mind and always be on the lookout.:)
@@MarkSzorady So if I understand you correctly, your picks are the VB Chieftain Jr and the Classic Samurai CS-201 with a honorable mention for the Lord A6 and the Gillette Super Speed, if I can find one. You've no experience with the Wilkinson Sword Classic or presumably the Feather z, Timor and the Weishi. Noted and again many thanks.!
@@bronzedragon18 Yes, I think that's about correct.. However, I cannot vouch for the consistent Q/C on the Samurai 201. I can state that the Q/C on Vikings Blade razors is quite consistent and with a good track record. Additionally, VB's customer service is excellent. they'll make it right if anything is amiss. Lord A6 is terrific, but has a lightweight handle. So, shaving technique needs to be adjusted for this. Super Speeds are wonderful! I only mention because the trick is getting one in good condition at a good price.
Your 100% right with the Merkur 34C! In the military and there are very strict grooming standards so I shave daily with the Merkur 34C. I recommend it to anyone as well!
I've been shaving with a circa 1946-50 Gillette Tech. Great vintage razor. I decided to pick up a EJ DE89L. Just ordered today. So many great videos and reviews, just had to get one. What razor blades recommended for the DE89L? Thanks for the great vid.
Thanks, Michael.:) I also have a few vintage Techs.:) GREAT razor!:) You can get a blade sampler and try a few differnt blades without committing to a hundred right off the bat: amzn.to/2X1VOCG Having said that, I'm a big fan of Vikings Blade's razor blades (mild), Astra, Derby Premium, Personna Blue, regular Derby. Dorco Premium are nice.:) I tend to get a lot of nice shaves from any blade that has Platinum or Chromium coating.:) It really smooths out the shave for me.:) I've used all the blades I've mentioned in the DE89L and have gotten really nice results.:) SShhhh...I also purchased some ___________ blades. Wow! Terrific shave but on the pricey side.:) Review coming soon.:)
Hi Mark! Just came across this video. I bought a Vikingsblade vulcan after watching several of your videos. I like the longer handle over the chieftain. What a great razor. It’s considered a mild razor, right? Same head as the Chieftain? I went through trial and error with lots of different blades and finally settled on Astra green. Persona blues and Voskhod were good too but Astra turn the vulcan into a shaving machine! Love it. Thanks for the recommendation video!
Michael, thanks for the kind words.:) Yes, the Vulcan and Chieftain, as I understand it, have the same razor head. The Chieftain and the Vulcan are rated as Neutral by Vikings Blade. I often refer to them as Goldilocks razors...not too aggressive, not too mild, just right.:) It's great trying out different blades (one of the great things about shaving with a safety razor). glad to hesr you've found a few that pair up well with the Vulcan.:)
It might be because I had been using straights razor for three years before buying a few safety razors to mix it up a bit but I really can't tell the difference between the supposedly more "aggressive" or "milder" razors. It all really feels pretty much the same. I will say that it is much quicker to use and really useful for busier mornings/travel but also not nearly as fun as a straight razor or a shavette.
Great video with good info. Just order the DE89 and I know it was a great purchase because the feedback it's very nice from all the ppl they use it. No Mühle razor in this top 5, for any special reason?
Thank you.:) I own a Baxter of California razor which is a re-branded Mhle R89. A terrific razor for sure. Back when I purchased it, it cost about 50 bucks. The Muhle R89, at that time, ran about the same price. But in this video, I wanted to talk about mild razors at lower, more affordable prices.:) So I discussed razors that were priced between 20 and 30 dollars (give or take five bucks or so.) However, in crafting my answer to you, and doing some quick research, I now notice that the price for an R89 is about $35.00. amzn.to/2HdPEJG So, next time around, I'l include the Baxter ( to sit in for the Muhle) given the price has changed. Or, perhaps I'll simply get a Muhle R89.:) Thanks for bringing this to my attention.:)
@@MarkSzorady nothing to thanks and now I got your point. Yes you're right years ago the Muhle R89 are expensive than it's now and I guess just a guess, that's a kind more aggressive than the razors you've been shown in your video. So with your feedback my next purchases will be one Vicking blade Razor (not decided yet wich model I'll get but the Chieftain is on my wish list), and I also buy the Muhle R89 for sure. Meanwhile I'm waiting the EJ DE89 that was shipping yesterday and I hope that they come next week. Many, many thanks for your reply and still following your channel because your vids have a lot of info and we can buy some stuff with your awesome feedback that you gave to all subscribers. Keep it up your awesome work. Ricardo Vilela
Hi Mark. I'm from Poland. I have some razors. All are mild 😎 EJ de86 (black handle), two mühle R89 - with long handle called "grande" and a standard version with short handle. Also, King C. Gillette (veeeery nice and mild razor; i saw that you did a review of this stuff) and 2 ukrainian Shluyz razors (copies of some vintage Gillette razor). Mild razors are good to shave a head 😊 I like your shave films 🙌😊 BTW, in some your film i saw a polish edition of Nivea shaving cream (sensitive). In Polish: KREM DO GOLENIA 😊😊😊 Greetings 👊
Hi, Krzysztof Wocial, I'm very glad to hear you enjoyed the video.:) This is an earlier video review. Many newer videos with newer razors. Feel free to explore the channel. Some amazing shaving ger out there as you already know given the nice collection you have. Thanks for the nice note!
Mr. Maggard rates it as a 3 (out of 10), which is mild, but I always felt a lot of blade feel with this razor even with a smoother blade. Other razors like the Merkur, not so.
Hi Mark! My experience with safety razors is extremely limited to first few tries as a teen with crappy equipment and few other tries later on with multi blade cartridge razors. All resulted in a horrible razor burn with acne brake out . I’ve been using electric philips norelco for many years (top of the line for -$250-300) . Now that i have a beard (not long) I clean up cheek and neck lines with same electric razor that’s not as efficient as it used to be (replacement blades are horrible for these models). So in order of avoiding buying new expensive electric shaver, I’m thinking of trying safety razor again . Which would you recommend for better maneuvering cleaning up neck line under beard and cheeks. Also fixed head or adjustable? I was looking at Viking chieftain and Edwin jagger . What would you recommend? Or should I consider straight razor for that purpose (like dovo or other German brands)? Thank you! (Ed)
Hi, azesm.:) Your reasons for leaving the electric razor behind were my exact reasons as well.:) I first used a Vikings Blade Chieftain and loved it from the get-go! Terrific razor. Yes, Edwin Jagger razors are wonderful, too. The Chieftain is more efficient and has more heft which, in my opinion, really helps. My brother wanted a good razor to clean his neck and beard line and chose the Chieftain Jr. He really likes it. It's milder than the regular Chieftain. He wanted the milder quality to avoid irritating his neck. Also, the newer Chieftain 5 BC is heavier than the original Chieftain and really smooth. End tabs of the blade are exposed a bit whereas the original Chieftain encloses the tabs. Personal preference really. Also Globalsh ve.clb has some really nice efficnet razors. The Ice and Steam razors are favorites. They are smooth and efficient 3-piece razors. Ice is more efficient than Steam. And, as GSC claims, both are a bit more efficient than an Edwin Jagger. HTH.:)
Mark Szorady thank you So much for your detailed response and great suggestions! Given that I would need a clear view of what I’m doing in terms of beard lines (neck and cheeks), I think I would need a transparent shaving gel (as opposed to creamy soaps). Are there any particular products that you would recommend for pre and post shave that would make the experience safe and smooth? Thank you!!! Ed
@@azesm Original Cremo is VERY good. Very slick, clear and gives the blade great glide. I also like Bee Bald. Bee Bald is primarily for shaving the head, but can be used for the face. it's very much like Cremo. Trader Joe's makes a nice super slick shave cream, again, in the same ballpark as Cremo. OmniShaver makes a shave butter that is very slick for head shaves. I have not yet used it for a face shave but assume it would be as good, if not better, than the others mentioned. Clubman also makes a Barbershop shave cream and shave butter that are also good. With Clubman, I favor the Barbershop shave cream just a bit.:)
Gillette Techs for sure are mild, as long as they are post WWII Techs (as I understand it). The others I cannot comment on because I have not used either.
I have a 34C. The blade alignment is far from perfect on my copy. The blade exposure is angled and has unequal exposure on either side. I'm not the only one that has noticed that.
@@MarkSzorady No. Didn't see the point. As I said, others have noticed that too on TH-cam. Edwin Jagger DE 89 and all Rockwell and a Parker 99R don't have that problem. It's been while, maybe they had a bad production run and I was unlucky.
Mark, I've watched several of your how to shaving and product reviews. With all the safety razors out there I am curious why you would choose any "aggressive" safety razor over a mild razor like the Chieftain Jr? Especially when you give it such high praise. I've seen videos of people with very heavy beards getting excellent results with the Chieftain Jr. What am I missing? Thanks. I really learn a lot watching your videos.
Hi, Bart Bartlett.:) Yes, I prefer razors that are neutral to mild. I'm really not an aggressive razor user. However, I still like to try them out and give my impression to viewers. Some aggressive razors will give me a good shave, but I have to be careful with repeated use. For me, perhaps one, maybe two shaves in a row. But after that, it gets to be too much for me. My daily shave is usually a razor on the mild side or an adjustable razor dialed two rd the mid to mild range.:) The rule of YMMV applies.:) The Chieftain Jr. is definitely a favorite! Terrific razor and probably the best bang for the buck!
@@MarkSzorady... Well, I've been using the "Jr" for about a week. I must say it does provide a much milder shave than my Kanzy 3-piece safety razor. So far no nicks and no redness. My face is the smoothest and the neck area has taken some practice to get a close shave. I'm still striving for that BBS shave on my upper lip. Eyeballing the blade-to-safety bar gap between the two razors shows the "Jr" gap to be close to half of the Kanzy. Wet shaving has become addictive now that I'm back into doing it 😉 I watched your review of the VB Crusader Frosted Chrome and now I want to get one of those. Your videos have definitely provided some useful pointers.
@@BartBuzz Great to hear. I really enjoy using the Chieftain, Jr. Regarding your interest in the Crusader, I'm now uploading a video overview of adjustable razors that would make great gifts for dads and grads.:) The Crusader and Emperor razors are included. Give it about ten minutes from the time that I'm posting this comment and it should be available.:)
What do you think about the Van Der Hagen razor sold in stores in terms of how mild it is? I've had about 10 shaves using it with 4 different blades now and am still cutting my neck up despite trying both hot and cold shaves as well as better shaving cream. I'm thinking maybe I need a less mild razor but also it's possible the Van Der Hagen is just as mild as the razors in this video which means my technique is just bad.
Adam, the Van Der Hagen razor is a re-branded Wieshi razor. The Weishi runs about the same price, give or take a few bucks and features. Generally speaking, it's a reliable shaver and does a decent job. As I recall from my own use, the shaves were efficient and I never nicked myself. I don't recall it being overly aggressive. It's a reliable razor. Truthfully, I need to shave with it again to refresh my memory of it. But, I certianly don't recall it being overly aggressive and nicking and cutting me. However, this is a razor that I place in the bargain category. With lower cost, bargain razors there's always the possibility of getting one that might be a bit "off." Some wet shavers might get a razor that gives an incredibly sooth shave, while others might get one that is only so-so. Also, there's a YMMV component. That So-So razor for one, might be an exceptional razor for another due to skin and beard differences. Now, the first question is, are you doing the proper prep? Are you using a good shaving soap? a good brush? Are you using a pre-shave soap or cream? All these elements help considerably. Also, you may want to try a coated blade if not already doing so...something that is platinum coated, etc. Astra Platinum Double Edge Safety Razor Blades ,100 Count (Pack of 1): amzn.to/2WtS8LN Lord Platinum Double Edge Safety Razor Blades, 100 blades (5x20): amzn.to/3gq2KCw If you're doing this, then you may need a milder razor. I can recommend a few. the Merkur HD 34C is quite mild and an exceptional razor. The shave angle is a bit narrower than most so you have ot be spot on with shaving angle and technique. But, it does a great job and is loved by wet shavers the world over: amzn.to/2V978gC the listing says "Mk" andnot "HD," but this is the razor. The Vikings Blade Chieftain Jr. A terrifc mild razor, nice weight, TTO butterfly and deleivers a mild shave. also a bit longer than the Weishi.VDH: amzn.to/3mclTLo Edwin Jagger DE89L: Another razor loved by wetshavers all over the world. A bitmore aggressive than the 34C, but still delivers a good mild to mid-aggression shave: amzn.to/33onqqp Make sure to check their pricing...all the razors with the exception of thier SS razor, use the same razor head. So, you might be able to save a few bucks simply by selecting a different handle. The Vikings Blade Godfather Stonehenge. I love the razor. Lots of heft, stainless steel handle and cap, and a mild, mild shave. The end tabs of the razor blade are enclosed in the razor head. A plus for those who might be concerned with nicking themselves from the blade tab sticking out too far. This razor is afavorite of mine due to it's mild, yet efficient, shave: amzn.to/3fJ6nUV HTH.:)
Please ,why is my Wilkinson sword Clasic so good very good mild,and accurate..I linke Wilc Clasic very much.what is alike Wilcinson Clasic so mild.I dont now other Razor. For me Wilcinson is Nr 1 an the World. Blades only Rassian and Japanese
I'm surprised you put Fatip in the "Mild " category. I'd at least call it medium I don't believe it's anywhere close to a Gillette Tech and that's MILD LOL
I have a fatip razor that was made after 2017. As I understand it, the petite razors made prior to 2017 were quite aggressive. After 2017 they became much milder. However, YMMV.:). For me, it's been a mild yet efficient razor.
It also came as a surprise to me -- I know some gents who consider the Fatip OC too aggressive for daily shaving. There is also a Fatip CC which might be milder -- or not. I think it's an immortal myth that OCs are by default more aggressive than CCs. It may be the design (the teeth or blunt, but they may look scary) or the wording ("open comb" sounds a bit like "open razor", which is another word for straight razor), but there are many mild OC razors. The Merkurs 15 and 25 c are mild. The aggressive Mühle R41 isn't even a true OC in its current version. I have a Parker CC and I cut myself badly with it, repeatedly. Two dots on the leg, both 3 mm in diameter, and a 4 cm scratch in the armpit. It took three months for the one in the armpit and six months for the ones on the leg to disappear. For comparison, I also use a straight razor, and while I did cut myself with it a couple of times, the cuts couldn't hold a candle to those I got from the Parker CC.
@@DellaStreet123 and Gentlemen, " I think it's an immortal myth that OCs are by default more aggressive than CCs" I agree.:) I simply find the Grande to be mild for me.:) Perhaps it's the myth at work, only working backwards for me.:) I see the OC, think it's terribly aggressive, then when I use it, find it to be not as aggressive as I had thought.:)
In my opinion the EJ89 is not mild. I own at least 20 different razors. And the EJ89 is not mild. I am aware that most people think of it as mild and actually that is why I bought it some years back. Actually it was one of my first razors. Every razor that followed I bought with the intention of being milder.
Chalk this up to YMMV. or, you could have gotten one tht was out of spec? I own several EJs and they are all consistently the same mild shave quality. Although I've found the short-handled EJs to be a bit more efficient, but no more aggressive than the other EJs in my stable.:)
Mark Szorady I have bought my Gem Micromatic OC after I viewed one of your videos on that razor and I thank you for that. I am able to get a better shave and with almost no irritation with the GEM than with the EG89.And the is definitely more aggressive. I am an experienced shaver. Same thing with the Mercure Progress.No problem. Works every time. I actually am a little frustrated because of it. The EJ89 is beautiful and am not going to give it away. No chance. I’ll probably give it a another chance. Maybe even tomorrow.
@@edyartzi I'm so glad the Gem works for you.:) as I've said, the Gem raor is the bet kept secret in wet shaving. Inexpensive, rugged, vintage, and gives a wonderful shave..:) Obviously, YMMV.:) But for many, the Gem is a nice shave.:)
@@PaganiniPagani so, you're saying the more aggressive the razor, the better the shave? Great to hear that this approach works for you.:) I found it to be on the mild side. If it works for you as an aggressive razor, it once again confirms YMMV.:):)
Thanks for your time and effort to show us , those marvelous safety razor , any man must get this , for one reason , feeling the love and true adventures to been MAN !!!
Ever try the muhle r106 ? A great, mild piece. You gotta try it if you haven't. Among my all time faves. Could be a content opportunity!
@MarkSzorady what a great detailed educational breakdown of wet shaving products for beginners. This video is a Master Class & TedTalks for wet shaving.
My current razors are the Assured butterfly from Dollar Tree and the Merkur 25c and the Merkur 39c. Yes I'm aware that the Merkurs aren't usually recommended for new shavers but some reviewers /users recommend them because they are efficient rather than aggressive. Thoughts?
Useful video. For those interested, TTO razors should be oiled with 3-in-1 oil every three months. Apply the oil at both hinges, on both doors, and through the top and bottom to lube the open/close mechanism. One drop at each location is all it takes. This helps ensure smooth operation and longevity.
Thank you for the useful tip.:)
@@MarkSzorady No prob. Anytime.
These are very nice razors for beginners (i started out with an Edwin Jagger DE89 Kelvin). I wasn't getting the results I had hoped to get, but after using a variety of other razors wished I had started out with an adjustable razor first. Adjustable safety razors can provide a very mild shave (best for beginners) to a moderately aggressive shave (for those with thicker beard growth). So, if you're hoping to try wet shaving maybe consider these adjustable safety razors --
Merkur 'Progress' (various sizes) - continuously adjustable safety razor for around $55 shipped from Connaught Shaving UK
Merkur 'Futur' (various finishes) -- a more aggressive continuously adjustable safety razor for around $67 shipped from Connaught Shaving UK
Parker 'Variant' (various finishes) -- continuously adjustable safety razor for around $58 (plus shipping) from various sources
Rockwell '6C' -- adjustable plate system safety razor (which may not be as convenient for some) for around $50 (plus shipping) from various sources
Viking's Blade 'Crusader' -- Gillette 'Fatboy' inspired continuously adjustable safety razor for around $57 (plus shipping) from various sources
Ming Shi 2000S -- Chinese Merkur 'Futur' clone -- continuously adjustable safety razor for around $10-20 (plus shipping) from various sources (including AliExpress)
Ming Shi 3000S -- Chinese Gillette 'Fatboy' inspired continuously adjustable safety razor for around $10 (plus shipping) from AliExpress -- search for 'faroot adjustable razor'
Of these, I'd perhaps recommend the Parker 'Variant' (due to it's improvements based on the Merkur 'Progress') or the Rockwell '6C' for a beginner.
Yes, most of these are more expensive than an Edwin Jagger DE89 or Merkur 34C (or cheaper clones of those razors from Italian Barber, Maggard Razors, West Coast Shaving and other sources), but adjustable razors will better suit your skill level, beard growth and (in my experience) lessen any need to buy other safety razors -- making it (perhaps) a better long term investment.
If most of these are still our of your budget, one of the cheapest options is the 'Assured Double-Edge Safety Razor with 5 Blades' from Dollar Tree for only $1 (if you have a Dollar Tree store in your area and they have them in stock). It's not adjustable, but it's a very affordable safety razor to consider.
Yes, an adjustable razor is another way to start.:) I especially like using an adjustable razor because, although my shave may be completed after only two passes, I can dial it all the way down and still do an enjoyable third ATG pass.:)
Good listing of ajustables.:) Thanks!:)
What's the difference between the chieftain and the jr?
Very interesting list.
Edwin DE89 is a brilliant razor. Gives great shaves and looks beautiful.
Agree.:)
Hi Mark- A very nice overview of some nice mild razors; thank you! I did use the 34C when I started wet shaving again; great introductory razor, for sure. I also found it to be a nice razor to use when testing more aggressive blades and provided a bit of a cushion, so to speak. I hope you are fairing a little better with the cold weather. Take care and all the best!
Mike, I agree. The 34C would be a very good razor to try out more aggressive blades.:) have a great week!:)
Hi Mark, thanks for the videos, I'm learning a lot! My issues with the EJ are its high cost for a beginner razor and the screw tends to break off in the handle if dropped ;that's unacceptable for a $30 razor... Schone, high cost. Fatip Grande, there are several reports of QC issues, version 1 heads? I'm in the market for another 2 budget razors and the Chieftain Jr is on the list, along with the Feather Popular, Timor 1327, Weishi,), Lord A6 and the Wilkinson #Sword Classic. Which 2 would you pick and why?
Hi, Duncan Wynn Jr. I'd pick the Chieftain, Jr. for sure.:) Given Vikings Blade's tracke record on quaility, the razor is goingot be spot on for bladd alignment and balance. If not, for whatever reason, Vikings Blade will stand behind it.
The Lord A6 is nice and mild, but be aware of the lightweight handle. It might throw you off just a bit. I prefer heavier handles so the razor does all the work. I liked the shave.:)
I've heard good things about the Wilkinson Sword, but have never used one.
I was also impressed by the mildness of the Classic Samurai CS-201: th-cam.com/video/xgiolDvaUsM/w-d-xo.html
You can find it on Amazon at: th-cam.com/video/xgiolDvaUsM/w-d-xo.html
I can't really speak to the Q/C on this one, though. The CS-201 I received gave a nice mild shave. At just under $15.00, you may get one that is milder or one that is a bit more aggressive. But of the four Classic Samurai razors I own, this one is the mildest.
Lastly, the best bet for a good, low cost razor is to keep a lookout for a vintage Gillette Super Speed at yard sales, estate sales, etc. Some wet shavers come across these at yard sales in great condition for only a couple of bucks. Again, it might take some time to find this kind of deal, but simply keep it in mind and always be on the lookout.:)
@@MarkSzorady So if I understand you correctly, your picks are the VB Chieftain Jr and the Classic Samurai CS-201 with a honorable mention for the Lord A6 and the Gillette Super Speed, if I can find one. You've no experience with the Wilkinson Sword Classic or presumably the Feather z, Timor and the Weishi. Noted and again many thanks.!
@@MarkSzorady I'm curious about why no mention of the Assured butterfly razor, ; mine does the job well.
@@bronzedragon18 Yes, I think that's about correct.. However, I cannot vouch for the consistent Q/C on the Samurai 201. I can state that the Q/C on Vikings Blade razors is quite consistent and with a good track record. Additionally, VB's customer service is excellent. they'll make it right if anything is amiss. Lord A6 is terrific, but has a lightweight handle. So, shaving technique needs to be adjusted for this. Super Speeds are wonderful! I only mention because the trick is getting one in good condition at a good price.
Your 100% right with the Merkur 34C! In the military and there are very strict grooming standards so I shave daily with the Merkur 34C. I recommend it to anyone as well!
Thank you very much for confirming my hunch.:) Appreciated!:) And thank you for your service!:)
You forgot to include the Merkur 15c open comb razor which gives a good very mild shave, never got a nick, cut or razor burn irritation from it.
Thanks for noting it.:) I've never tried it.:) I'd like to.:) Appreciate the recommendation.:)
Can you do a video with medium aggression razors? Thanks for all the videos and great info
Hi, joemjaquez, glad to hear you enjoyed the video.:) Yes, good suggestion. I'll put that on the list.
I've been shaving with a circa 1946-50 Gillette Tech. Great vintage razor. I decided to pick up a EJ DE89L. Just ordered today. So many great videos and reviews, just had to get one. What razor blades recommended for the DE89L? Thanks for the great vid.
Thanks, Michael.:) I also have a few vintage Techs.:) GREAT razor!:)
You can get a blade sampler and try a few differnt blades without committing to a hundred right off the bat: amzn.to/2X1VOCG
Having said that, I'm a big fan of Vikings Blade's razor blades (mild), Astra, Derby Premium, Personna Blue, regular Derby. Dorco Premium are nice.:) I tend to get a lot of nice shaves from any blade that has Platinum or Chromium coating.:) It really smooths out the shave for me.:)
I've used all the blades I've mentioned in the DE89L and have gotten really nice results.:)
SShhhh...I also purchased some ___________ blades. Wow! Terrific shave but on the pricey side.:) Review coming soon.:)
Hi Mark! Just came across this video. I bought a Vikingsblade vulcan after watching several of your videos. I like the longer handle over the chieftain. What a great razor. It’s considered a mild razor, right? Same head as the Chieftain? I went through trial and error with lots of different blades and finally settled on Astra green. Persona blues and Voskhod were good too but Astra turn the vulcan into a shaving machine! Love it. Thanks for the recommendation video!
Michael, thanks for the kind words.:) Yes, the Vulcan and Chieftain, as I understand it, have the same razor head. The Chieftain and the Vulcan are rated as Neutral by Vikings Blade. I often refer to them as Goldilocks razors...not too aggressive, not too mild, just right.:) It's great trying out different blades (one of the great things about shaving with a safety razor). glad to hesr you've found a few that pair up well with the Vulcan.:)
It might be because I had been using straights razor for three years before buying a few safety razors to mix it up a bit but I really can't tell the difference between the supposedly more "aggressive" or "milder" razors. It all really feels pretty much the same. I will say that it is much quicker to use and really useful for busier mornings/travel but also not nearly as fun as a straight razor or a shavette.
Hi, JimIBobIJones. It's be interesting to hear from other straight razors users if they have had similar experience.
nice collection of razors Mark
Thank you!:)
Great video with good info. Just order the DE89 and I know it was a great purchase because the feedback it's very nice from all the ppl they use it. No Mühle razor in this top 5, for any special reason?
Thank you.:) I own a Baxter of California razor which is a re-branded Mhle R89. A terrific razor for sure. Back when I purchased it, it cost about 50 bucks. The Muhle R89, at that time, ran about the same price. But in this video, I wanted to talk about mild razors at lower, more affordable prices.:) So I discussed razors that were priced between 20 and 30 dollars (give or take five bucks or so.)
However, in crafting my answer to you, and doing some quick research, I now notice that the price for an R89 is about $35.00. amzn.to/2HdPEJG
So, next time around, I'l include the Baxter ( to sit in for the Muhle) given the price has changed. Or, perhaps I'll simply get a Muhle R89.:)
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.:)
@@MarkSzorady nothing to thanks and now I got your point. Yes you're right years ago the Muhle R89 are expensive than it's now and I guess just a guess, that's a kind more aggressive than the razors you've been shown in your video.
So with your feedback my next purchases will be one Vicking blade Razor (not decided yet wich model I'll get but the Chieftain is on my wish list), and I also buy the Muhle R89 for sure. Meanwhile I'm waiting the EJ DE89 that was shipping yesterday and I hope that they come next week.
Many, many thanks for your reply and still following your channel because your vids have a lot of info and we can buy some stuff with your awesome feedback that you gave to all subscribers.
Keep it up your awesome work.
Ricardo Vilela
@@LPcasper Thank you very much!:) Enjoy the Edwin Jagger razor!:)
Hi Mark. I'm from Poland. I have some razors. All are mild 😎 EJ de86 (black handle), two mühle R89 - with long handle called "grande" and a standard version with short handle. Also, King C. Gillette (veeeery nice and mild razor; i saw that you did a review of this stuff) and 2 ukrainian Shluyz razors (copies of some vintage Gillette razor).
Mild razors are good to shave a head 😊
I like your shave films 🙌😊
BTW, in some your film i saw a polish edition of Nivea shaving cream (sensitive). In Polish: KREM DO GOLENIA 😊😊😊
Greetings 👊
Hi, Krzysztof Wocial, I'm very glad to hear you enjoyed the video.:) This is an earlier video review. Many newer videos with newer razors. Feel free to explore the channel. Some amazing shaving ger out there as you already know given the nice collection you have. Thanks for the nice note!
Mr. Maggard rates it as a 3 (out of 10), which is mild, but I always felt a lot of blade feel with this razor even with a smoother blade. Other razors like the Merkur, not so.
Which razor are you referring to?
imo the edwin jagger is a good mild razor for the buck i got the ivory handle
Nice!:) I'll have to check out that model.:)
Love my EJDE89
Great video,cheers Mark 👍
Thank you!:)
Hi Mark! My experience with safety razors is extremely limited to first few tries as a teen with crappy equipment and few other tries later on with multi blade cartridge razors. All resulted in a horrible razor burn with acne brake out . I’ve been using electric philips norelco for many years (top of the line for -$250-300) . Now that i have a beard (not long) I clean up cheek and neck lines with same electric razor that’s not as efficient as it used to be (replacement blades are horrible for these models). So in order of avoiding buying new expensive electric shaver, I’m thinking of trying safety razor again . Which would you recommend for better maneuvering cleaning up neck line under beard and cheeks. Also fixed head or adjustable? I was looking at Viking chieftain and Edwin jagger . What would you recommend? Or should I consider straight razor for that purpose (like dovo or other German brands)? Thank you! (Ed)
Hi, azesm.:) Your reasons for leaving the electric razor behind were my exact reasons as well.:) I first used a Vikings Blade Chieftain and loved it from the get-go! Terrific razor. Yes, Edwin Jagger razors are wonderful, too. The Chieftain is more efficient and has more heft which, in my opinion, really helps. My brother wanted a good razor to clean his neck and beard line and chose the Chieftain Jr. He really likes it. It's milder than the regular Chieftain. He wanted the milder quality to avoid irritating his neck. Also, the newer Chieftain 5 BC is heavier than the original Chieftain and really smooth. End tabs of the blade are exposed a bit whereas the original Chieftain encloses the tabs. Personal preference really. Also Globalsh ve.clb has some really nice efficnet razors. The Ice and Steam razors are favorites. They are smooth and efficient 3-piece razors. Ice is more efficient than Steam. And, as GSC claims, both are a bit more efficient than an Edwin Jagger.
HTH.:)
Mark Szorady thank you So much for your detailed response and great suggestions! Given that I would need a clear view of what I’m doing in terms of beard lines (neck and cheeks), I think I would need a transparent shaving gel (as opposed to creamy soaps). Are there any particular products that you would recommend for pre and post shave that would make the experience safe and smooth? Thank you!!! Ed
@@azesm Original Cremo is VERY good. Very slick, clear and gives the blade great glide. I also like Bee Bald. Bee Bald is primarily for shaving the head, but can be used for the face. it's very much like Cremo. Trader Joe's makes a nice super slick shave cream, again, in the same ballpark as Cremo. OmniShaver makes a shave butter that is very slick for head shaves. I have not yet used it for a face shave but assume it would be as good, if not better, than the others mentioned. Clubman also makes a Barbershop shave cream and shave butter that are also good. With Clubman, I favor the Barbershop shave cream just a bit.:)
Mark Szorady Thank you so much for your help!!!
@@azesm My pleasure.:)
Thank you! How about Gillette Techs, Tatara Masamune and Feather AS D2?
Gillette Techs for sure are mild, as long as they are post WWII Techs (as I understand it). The others I cannot comment on because I have not used either.
@@MarkSzorady Thank you sir, hope you get to try them out and review for us, I know everyone likes a comfortable shave.
I wouldn't put the de89 EJ in the "mild" category.
Interesting. How would you rate it?
Where can you get the VIKINGS Chieftain Junior in UK?
The Chieftain Junior is available on amazon.com. I'm told they will ship to the UK.:) Check this listing: amzn.to/2GAejZ7
I have a 34C. The blade alignment is far from perfect on my copy. The blade exposure is angled and has unequal exposure on either side. I'm not the only one that has noticed that.
Hi, Twidget. Very surprised to hear this. Have you contacted Merkur?
@@MarkSzorady No. Didn't see the point. As I said, others have noticed that too on TH-cam. Edwin Jagger DE 89 and all Rockwell and a Parker 99R don't have that problem. It's been while, maybe they had a bad production run and I was unlucky.
@@eminusipi Well, maybe at least drop them an email. Couldn't hurt.
Sorry. Talking about the Edwin Jagger.
great video thanks for the information
My pleasure.:)
Mark, I've watched several of your how to shaving and product reviews. With all the safety razors out there I am curious why you would choose any "aggressive" safety razor over a mild razor like the Chieftain Jr? Especially when you give it such high praise. I've seen videos of people with very heavy beards getting excellent results with the Chieftain Jr. What am I missing? Thanks. I really learn a lot watching your videos.
Hi, Bart Bartlett.:) Yes, I prefer razors that are neutral to mild. I'm really not an aggressive razor user. However, I still like to try them out and give my impression to viewers. Some aggressive razors will give me a good shave, but I have to be careful with repeated use. For me, perhaps one, maybe two shaves in a row. But after that, it gets to be too much for me. My daily shave is usually a razor on the mild side or an adjustable razor dialed two rd the mid to mild range.:) The rule of YMMV applies.:) The Chieftain Jr. is definitely a favorite! Terrific razor and probably the best bang for the buck!
@@MarkSzorady My Chieftain Jr will arrive today. Thanks for the feedback. My regards...Bart
@@BartBuzz Wonderful!:) Please let me know how you like it.:)
@@MarkSzorady... Well, I've been using the "Jr" for about a week. I must say it does provide a much milder shave than my Kanzy 3-piece safety razor. So far no nicks and no redness. My face is the smoothest and the neck area has taken some practice to get a close shave. I'm still striving for that BBS shave on my upper lip. Eyeballing the blade-to-safety bar gap between the two razors shows the "Jr" gap to be close to half of the Kanzy. Wet shaving has become addictive now that I'm back into doing it 😉 I watched your review of the VB Crusader Frosted Chrome and now I want to get one of those. Your videos have definitely provided some useful pointers.
@@BartBuzz Great to hear. I really enjoy using the Chieftain, Jr. Regarding your interest in the Crusader, I'm now uploading a video overview of adjustable razors that would make great gifts for dads and grads.:) The Crusader and Emperor razors are included. Give it about ten minutes from the time that I'm posting this comment and it should be available.:)
What do you think about the Van Der Hagen razor sold in stores in terms of how mild it is? I've had about 10 shaves using it with 4 different blades now and am still cutting my neck up despite trying both hot and cold shaves as well as better shaving cream. I'm thinking maybe I need a less mild razor but also it's possible the Van Der Hagen is just as mild as the razors in this video which means my technique is just bad.
Adam, the Van Der Hagen razor is a re-branded Wieshi razor. The Weishi runs about the same price, give or take a few bucks and features. Generally speaking, it's a reliable shaver and does a decent job. As I recall from my own use, the shaves were efficient and I never nicked myself. I don't recall it being overly aggressive. It's a reliable razor. Truthfully, I need to shave with it again to refresh my memory of it. But, I certianly don't recall it being overly aggressive and nicking and cutting me.
However, this is a razor that I place in the bargain category. With lower cost, bargain razors there's always the possibility of getting one that might be a bit "off." Some wet shavers might get a razor that gives an incredibly sooth shave, while others might get one that is only so-so. Also, there's a YMMV component. That So-So razor for one, might be an exceptional razor for another due to skin and beard differences.
Now, the first question is, are you doing the proper prep? Are you using a good shaving soap? a good brush? Are you using a pre-shave soap or cream? All these elements help considerably. Also, you may want to try a coated blade if not already doing so...something that is platinum coated, etc.
Astra Platinum Double Edge Safety Razor Blades ,100 Count (Pack of 1): amzn.to/2WtS8LN
Lord Platinum Double Edge Safety Razor Blades, 100 blades (5x20): amzn.to/3gq2KCw
If you're doing this, then you may need a milder razor. I can recommend a few.
the Merkur HD 34C is quite mild and an exceptional razor. The shave angle is a bit narrower than most so you have ot be spot on with shaving angle and technique. But, it does a great job and is loved by wet shavers the world over: amzn.to/2V978gC
the listing says "Mk" andnot "HD," but this is the razor.
The Vikings Blade Chieftain Jr. A terrifc mild razor, nice weight, TTO butterfly and deleivers a mild shave. also a bit longer than the Weishi.VDH: amzn.to/3mclTLo
Edwin Jagger DE89L: Another razor loved by wetshavers all over the world. A bitmore aggressive than the 34C, but still delivers a good mild to mid-aggression shave: amzn.to/33onqqp
Make sure to check their pricing...all the razors with the exception of thier SS razor, use the same razor head. So, you might be able to save a few bucks simply by selecting a different handle.
The Vikings Blade Godfather Stonehenge. I love the razor. Lots of heft, stainless steel handle and cap, and a mild, mild shave. The end tabs of the razor blade are enclosed in the razor head. A plus for those who might be concerned with nicking themselves from the blade tab sticking out too far. This razor is afavorite of mine due to it's mild, yet efficient, shave: amzn.to/3fJ6nUV
HTH.:)
Please ,why is my Wilkinson sword Clasic so good very good mild,and accurate..I linke Wilc Clasic very much.what is alike Wilcinson Clasic so mild.I dont now other Razor. For me Wilcinson is Nr 1 an the World. Blades only Rassian and Japanese
Sasa, Great to hear!:) I guess it comes down to YMMV.:)
Thinks
nawaf alrashidi, my pleasure.:)
I'm surprised you put Fatip in the "Mild " category. I'd at least call it medium I don't believe it's anywhere close to a Gillette Tech and that's MILD LOL
I have a fatip razor that was made after 2017. As I understand it, the petite razors made prior to 2017 were quite aggressive. After 2017 they became much milder. However, YMMV.:). For me, it's been a mild yet efficient razor.
Gotcha but since it's an Op n Comb is it safe to say its medium rather than mild?
@@magnoliamike I guess you could say that.:) Again, YMMV.:)
It also came as a surprise to me -- I know some gents who consider the Fatip OC too aggressive for daily shaving. There is also a Fatip CC which might be milder -- or not. I think it's an immortal myth that OCs are by default more aggressive than CCs. It may be the design (the teeth or blunt, but they may look scary) or the wording ("open comb" sounds a bit like "open razor", which is another word for straight razor), but there are many mild OC razors. The Merkurs 15 and 25 c are mild. The aggressive Mühle R41 isn't even a true OC in its current version. I have a Parker CC and I cut myself badly with it, repeatedly. Two dots on the leg, both 3 mm in diameter, and a 4 cm scratch in the armpit. It took three months for the one in the armpit and six months for the ones on the leg to disappear. For comparison, I also use a straight razor, and while I did cut myself with it a couple of times, the cuts couldn't hold a candle to those I got from the Parker CC.
@@DellaStreet123 and Gentlemen, " I think it's an immortal myth that OCs are by default more aggressive than CCs" I agree.:) I simply find the Grande to be mild for me.:) Perhaps it's the myth at work, only working backwards for me.:) I see the OC, think it's terribly aggressive, then when I use it, find it to be not as aggressive as I had thought.:)
In my opinion the EJ89 is not mild.
I own at least 20 different razors. And the EJ89 is not mild.
I am aware that most people think of it as mild and actually that is why I bought it some years back.
Actually it was one of my first razors.
Every razor that followed I bought with the intention of being milder.
Chalk this up to YMMV. or, you could have gotten one tht was out of spec? I own several EJs and they are all consistently the same mild shave quality. Although I've found the short-handled EJs to be a bit more efficient, but no more aggressive than the other EJs in my stable.:)
Mark Szorady
I have bought my Gem Micromatic OC after I viewed one of your videos on that razor and I thank you for that.
I am able to get a better shave and with almost no irritation with the GEM than with the EG89.And the is definitely more aggressive.
I am an experienced shaver.
Same thing with the Mercure Progress.No problem. Works every time.
I actually am a little frustrated because of it.
The EJ89 is beautiful and am not going to give it away. No chance.
I’ll probably give it a another chance.
Maybe even tomorrow.
@@edyartzi I'm so glad the Gem works for you.:) as I've said, the Gem raor is the bet kept secret in wet shaving. Inexpensive, rugged, vintage, and gives a wonderful shave..:) Obviously, YMMV.:) But for many, the Gem is a nice shave.:)
So many choices and so few shaves....sigh.
:):):)
Edwin jagger is not mild razor
I found short handled EJs to be more efficient and closer than their standard handle models. But, as they say, YMMV.;)
@@MarkSzorady Edwin jagger is very petty for double edge blades more aggresive less irritation for me
@@PaganiniPagani so, you're saying the more aggressive the razor, the better the shave? Great to hear that this approach works for you.:) I found it to be on the mild side. If it works for you as an aggressive razor, it once again confirms YMMV.:):)
@@MarkSzorady Yes that True