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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2018
- Composer: Qigang Chen (陈其钢 Chén Qígāng) (August 28, 1951 - )
Pianist: Chun-Chieh Yen
Orchestra: Taiwan Philharmonic conducted by Shao-Chia Lü
The score is in C.
This recording is of an older version of the score, but I don't think there are any major differences. (There's a minor rhythmic difference in measure 193 at 13:00.)
The climax at 12:48 is quite impressive.
Score available here: www.boosey.com/cr/music/Qigan...
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The source material for this marvelous concerto is a folk melody from Anhui Province, which according to musicologist Funa Wang is characteristic of Southern Chinese opera melodies, often sorrowful and contemplative. The composer used this melody to evoke memories of his family and childhood in China and contrasts it in a series of “variations” with other material from Chinese opera. This concerto is one of the first great masterworks of 21st century orchestral literature and not only reflects the composer’s personal memories and feelings, but also Western feelings about the “exotic” world of Chinese music in general. It’s a brilliant work.
The title of the work “Er Huang” is from the incipit of the song “Er huang yan ban” and has a few meanings, depending on how you pronounce Chinese. The most agreed upon translation is “But like a lie...”
Thanks for explaining, but speaking of the translation of "Er huang yan ban". I suppose you should separate it into "Er huang二黄" and "yan ban眼板"."Er huang" is a special type of vocal in the Chinese opera, as well as "Xi pi西皮". So we usually put them together as "Xi pi and Er huang西皮二黄", and that's how Chen titled this work. For "yan ban", in Chinese music theory, the upbeat is called YAN and the downbeat is called BAN, therefore leads to "yan ban".
I'm pretty curious about the translation "But like a lie...", guess most people extract "huang yan" from this "Er huang yan ban", which can be pronounced as "谎言", means "lie" in Chinese. Probably there's a misunderstanding ：）
Chen's string writing is out of this world
I have no clue how this piece doesn't have more of a following. It is truly an incredible work.
Especially the climax at 12:42
Do not forget Debussy, Ravel even Qigang's teacher Messiaen were all deeply influenced by Asian cultural and music. What you hear here is exactly Chen Qigang's original sound from his inner being. When you meet him in person, you will feel exactly about his music as his personality, which he is a simple, direct, gentle, graceful, stable, subtle, flow freely, a bit aloof and dry sense humor. His music is exactly who he is.
have you met him in person? I'm fascinated, tell me more please!
@@somebody9033 I shall say we were friend, but lost it for years. His music and him as a person echos exactly the same.
@@wavechamber oh wow. interesting! thanks for sharing.
thank you so much for sharing
Totally agree with you.
通篇没有一样中国乐器，这种含蓄到极致的国风，与当下泛滥的古风不同，也不是像赵季平一样用原汁原味的声与韵让你酣畅淋漓；而更像是陈其钢的个人经历，一个学贯中西，半生旅居法国的中国人血液里那无法割舍的文化基因的自然流露。从二黄到蝶恋花，那九首组曲让我第一次感受到20世纪技法的感染力。他延续了拉威尔和恩师梅西安浓厚的法国风格，成功的创造出一种充满诱惑的静谧与虚无，又巧妙的利用江南丝竹和青衣水袖填补了这种空洞，没有一点当代技法的声嘶力竭和哗众取宠。
也许20世纪的技法没有原罪，只是在一些只会摆弄文化符号的庸人手下丢失了文化的根。先锋音乐中我曾最爱Petrushka，因他充满了俄国风情和原始元素。但我都不曾如此动情，因为这一次，他流淌在我自己的文化血脉中。
说得太好了。
原来他拜师了Messaien! 怪不得觉得耳熟。真的是法国的血肉，中国的骨髓与灵魂。
说得太好了。
西方古典音乐的根本身就很浅很浅（从巴赫至勋伯格不过两百年），在艺术家们尝试创新时很容易就丢失了自己文化的来源。德彪西尝试从文艺复兴音乐中找到法国音乐的灵魂，找到了自己的成功，但其实文艺复兴距离德彪西也不过三四百年罢了。与中国文化上千年的根基所能影响艺术的灵魂是不一样的。
其实欧洲并不是没有极其深远的文化根基。来自希腊，拜占庭，亚美尼亚，格鲁吉亚等地方的音乐都有千年的历史，只不过迂腐的古典音乐作曲家瞧不起，或者不知道罢了。
说得太好了。
"The climax at 12:48 is quite impressive"
Sounds as if Ravel had a Chinese doppelganger (probably due to the fact that the composer lives in France)
more similar to Messiaen tbh especially that was his teacher
@@verslaflamme666 This doesn't sound like Messiaen though. The Ravel comparison is more appropriate if we're talking about harmonic language.
I dont think youre doing Ravel (or Qigang Chen) any justice by comparing the two. The harmonic language is very different. This piece is basically all pentatonic scales, and the orchestration is nothing like Ravels. Yes there are instances where the two have similarities, but can you mention a piece by Ravel that uses the pentatonic scale to this degree? Like, he doesnt use it that often, so to me this more debussy ig
He was Olivier Messiaen pupil.
@@gustavmadsen8971 I'd like to say "Laideronette, l'impératrice des pagodas".
Talk about orchestration! WOW
Brandon Williams Yeah let's talk.. 8:40 would never write such fast staccatos in oboe and clarinet (especially when it's solo and you hear it clearly) .. They can't use double tongue as the flute can and you can hear it sounds shit because they can't do it.
The oboe sounds pretty good here actually, but yeah, the clarinet clearly struggles with this. Other than that the orchestration is solid
@@ApfelstrudlThe fast staccatos are meant to imitate the birds, chatting and singing in the peaceful woods. You can tell from the irregular distribution of staccato and legato (the tie).
eragon812 idk about that, I’ve definitely heard clarinets you be faster than that. Could just be a player thing. Definitely is hard but wouldn’t call it impossible. Besides, composers that push the limitations of what’s considered possible is what pushes forward the advancement of instrumental technique. I’m sure there are plenty of things we consider normal that musicians from the past work consider borderline impossible lol
@@Apfelstrudl It's interesting because Qigang Chen is a clarinet player himself. Maybe it's too difficult for a regular clarinet player to play.
This is a gem in the world of contemporary classical music.
12:51 has got to be one of the most emotional and most intense climaxes of pieces of music. It's so lively and inspiring, I love it!
The beginning with the solo piano is just wonderful it really touched me
That's a beautiful sounding vibraphone.
gav3, me a, bo n er
@@fryingwiththeantidote2486 good I wasn’t the only one
Wow I never would have stumbled upon this gem had I not subscribed to your channel! Thank you so much, Cmaj7.
Every time I listen to this MASTERPIECE I have tears in my eyes. Very grateful to Maestro Chen for composing such a beauty
thank you so much for this upload! It is a beautiful, beautiful work !!!!!
This is wonderful, very touching, well designed, thanks to you and Qigang Chen!
The Chinese Debussy.
Seriously one of the best things i've heard thats contemporary.
If you love this you'll love Rautavaara (Piano Concerto No. 3)
Hahaha, tell me about contemporary music lmao.
conradthe2 yes rautavaara is truly better
@@conradthe2 yeah as soon as I heard this it reminded me of rautavaara , still good though
@@conradthe2 I discovered Rautavaara like a month or two ago when I first listened to his first piano concerto. His 3rd piano concerto is probably one of my all time favorites
This just blew me away in the best possible way. Just wow. Incredible beauty. I hadn't even heard of this composer before. Thanks a lot for uploading.
i keep on coming back to this
Amazing composer, thank you for sharing.
such a beautiful piece
That was one of the most intense musical experiences of my life. So, so beautiful.
Clear, smooth, and magnificently pleasant!!
Congratulations to the composer for a job well done!
music like a beautiful marple
What a truly wonderful work. Massive emotional impact with great power and delicacy all weighed beautifully in the finest of artist's hands.
这真是我听过最动人的交响诗了，在13：00左右，全曲进入高潮，在和谐的弦乐组带领的旋律下，穿插着钢琴快速且不和谐、甚至有些刺耳的音色，恰到好处的传达了一种脆弱的美感，就像桃花盛开、落下，在短暂的生命当中，绽放出最靓丽的风景。好诗！好诗！陈其钢神人也！
I agree!
Just lovely, lovely, lovely ... wish I have the words to describe how this composition touched my emotions! Maestro Chen is brilliant composer!
Amazing composition! Bravo, bravisimo!!!!
Very immersive, thank you
It`s marvellous this concert!!!!!!
Amazing piece, his pacing is quite admirable.
beautiful images of sounds combined with a deep touch of emotions and rhythmic tension that leeds into an aera of neo-impressionisme
Thank you for this piece. Unique it is
A wonderful piece, taking a very simple but beautiful melodic idea into a world of extraordinary soundscaping through a series of variations that constantly intrigue and delight in equal measure. A piece to be championed and be heard more regularly in concert. Music for the 21century.
Excelent work. Thanks for sharing!
This is really beautiful and interesting ! 💞💞💞
keep coming back to listen to this
Same, it's ravishing
cant get over this song
Gute Arbeit! Der Ton mit dreigestrichenem Cis auf Trompete in 14.30 hat mich sehr positiv beeindruckt.
This is exquisite. I can't think of words to quantify the inquantifiable.
12:45 is an amazing and emotional moment
Just delightful.
Wonderful!
So beautiful
beautiful
Beautiful. Colourful.
So very good.
awesome piece
Beautiful
This might just be the most beautiful Piano Concerto ever written.
Especially that climax at 12:45 is devastating.
11:37 I felt like tearing up. So gorgeous ❤️
What a masterpiece! I instantly fell in love with it! Such chords, such orchestration, such virutosity! I wholeheartedly thank you!
Thank you for sharing~!
James i don’t think so
James composer name is Qi-Gang Chen
Nope.
Wow. This is super romantic and lush.
Wonderful
All his music are delicious to human ears no matter where and which schools you belong to on this earth...simply he does not use any extended 'techniques' to express himself, still perfect in his way.
Wonderfull
Thank ! :)
When the world bends around, when the structures of a civilization falter, it is good to return to that which in history does not flex, but on the contrary recovers courage, gathers the separated, pacifies without bruising. It’s worth recalling that the genius of creation is also moving in an history devoted to the destruction !
Loved it. I wish the contrabassoon was louder :) Seems a shame to lug that beast to a gig and have no one hear it.
very impressive
Wow, incredible piece! Some harmonic changes and instrumentation choices remind me of Ravel (which is a good thing btw)
stunning. I mean really. wowzers
After an Erhuang we should expect a Xipi!
Very intriguing. I like it a lot actually. 5 staves for piano??? 🤤
Sorabji used 7
11:37 start of a beautiful section
Beautiful! Who is his publisher? I want to buy a copy of the score for study.
Boosey and Hawkes
3:51 this single chord conjures up so many images
W O W
oh its so pretty
12:41
Chopin: 2 staves is justice
Liszt: nah 3
Rach: HAHA 4
Chen: H A H A F I V E
sorabji: hold my incense...
The score is quite impressively engraved. Any source?
Boosey Hawkes has a watermarked version you can look at for free.
Wowwwwww
haha ,er huang and xi pi are the forms from Beijing opera. He likes to mix up between the southern and northern, etc. He is a brilliant musician, born with it.
I would love to perform this work! Wonder if I can get in touch with the composer (and an orchestra) in order to bring it to life. Maravellous work
There’s no piano reduction of the orchestra part, is there? I’d love to play this with my teacher but sadly I don’t think there is a two piano version
The clarinet starting from 15:10
Jūs vienatnē apgrūtināt visus
It’s like the birth of a new civilization after the old one was getting wiped out during the climax. Breathtaking
The piano part in the climax looks like Sorabji but sounds completely different
Because it’s relatively tonal, unlike Sorabji.
16:25，真的听到了二黄，还是原板呐！
有几位中国（或华裔）作曲家，实力超群、天赋异禀、学贯中西、兼容并蓄，不仅吃透了中国传统音乐，西方作曲技法更是如虎添翼。而77级以及之后中国各大音乐学院培养出的作曲学生，不仅西方的没学明白，中国音乐也几乎没搞懂，写出来的东西不仅四不像，也根本没有灵魂可言。
12:49
Found you.
Ok
the commercial has the Pastorale sonata of Beethoven .Isn't it funny how beautiful music can be when youre not prepared forit . whenI sit down at a recital or concert if I know what to listen for it makes me want to hear new ,pedaling,textures,innervoices,tonal variety phraseology like what Argerich,Pletnev ,Sokolov . but when its just the music it can truly be enough .
Sounds like einojuhani rautavara
this not ratavara but it sound like rattavara
How'd you discover this piece?
Qigang Chen was one of Messiaen's students so I decided to check him out.
you can definitely hear Messiaen in this
This piece is quite famous amount Chinese conservatories.
Through Maxim Vengerov.
My composition teacher recommended it, and I absolutely fell in love with it.
Some people hear Débussie and Ravel, but I hear Lili Boulanger
4:44
Is it for a pianist who have 10000 hands ?
Awesome score! Do you by chance have a recording of Voyage D'Un Reve? Cannot find one.
12:48 Holy mother of all that is holy...
Exactly how I feel
Lovely piece, but I'm wondering why on earth the pianist played the last beat of measure 169 down the octave...
It may be because he's using an older version of the score. Chen revises his scores *a lot.* The recordings are generally of the original version, rather than the revised. The changes to this piece are relatively minor to compared to his revisions of some other pieces (the "revision" of Itinénaire d'une illusion, for example, is a completely different piece).
@@Cmaj7 Ah, I see. Thanks for the insight! Nonetheless, this is an outstanding piece, and remarkably orchestrated as well.
SINCE WHEN DID PIANO HAVE 5 STAVES?????!!!!!🤯🤯🤯🤯
it's a remarkable piece, however.
2:29 3:54 5:46 6:59
8:55
What does er huang translate to.
I was wondering that too, so I looked it up on google translate and it said "Yellow".
It's a type of technique-based musical form common in some regions of Chinese opera
What's the meaning of the numbers??
Which numbers? There are quite a lot of them.
@@Cmaj7 for example. There is the number 1 at 1:28
@@jostimromerovargas8364 Rehearsal marks
@@Cmaj7 oh. Thanks!
more like a rhapsody for piano and orch. than a concerto.
It's a concerto. Chen wouldn't have titled it that way if he wasn't writing it as a concerto.
I’m in Heaven fuck…
WOw . Stupefied ! I would love to hear this played in concert . Touched me and excited me and made me feel and slow down for a second . this is where concerti must go in 21st century . Brilliant music what a great experience ...and hearing this and not ever having heard of the composer was a memorable , remarkable experience too! Great experience, harmonies and adventure of where it all went !
I totally agree, they should return to this style. Although composers like Ligeti have such a great style as well.. why not keep both alive?
21st century boi?
Is this actually Contemporary?!?!?!!?
this could easily be called Debussy's Chinese Piano Concerto
Except not at all, I don't know from which universe you are but Debussy would never have composed something remotely similar. I think you suffer from vague structural similaritis, there's language (which even that is different in this case, but whatever) and then there's what each piece or composer has to say, very different stuff
As a pianist, I really don't appreciate having to read five staves at once...
We all agree this is a very sweet piece. So what is it lacking that would make it great? Yes, it is like Ravel but without the charm and the spice.