Dark Deception Hate & Controversy is getting out of hand... (again)

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  • Dark Deception Hate & Controversy is getting out of hand... (again)
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  • @SmackNPie
    @SmackNPie  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    Do you think Ch5 not being out has fueled this recent hate?
    #SmackEmpire

    • @ramiskhan2122
      @ramiskhan2122 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yess

    • @Mirebusijo
      @Mirebusijo 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I told you, this chapter will never be released, chapter 5 is just a fairy tale made by Vince

    • @boar_attack
      @boar_attack 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Absolutely, but chapter will be amazing. Vince learn from his mistakes.

    • @user-ug3ry9xu5g
      @user-ug3ry9xu5g 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yes that person who originally tweeted that dark deception is the worst mascot horror game replied that ch5 is taking too long when someone asked why they thought that and they didnt say anything else i remember that tweet

    • @Jess_594
      @Jess_594 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Most likely

  • @IHSGames
    @IHSGames 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +70

    The issue is weirdly enough...Mascot Horror Games. Weve been so accustomed to games like Bendy, Security Breach, Poppy Playtime, Garden Of Banban and so much more. They all have the same story telling, lore, gameplay, etc. These games usually put lore first before their gameplay.
    With a game like Dark Deception, its more Arcade-like, playing more like older games from the 90's/2000s where gameplay is more superior than the lore itself. Because of that, it makes it different than most games. Most Mascot Horror Games are more immersive and easy to play where as Dark Deception is more hard. This makes people think that its bad when really, Mascot horror games have been subpar that people are gotten used to this format. But because DD is different (and the wait for chapter 5) this makes it too easy to hate on sadly

    • @SirLucasOfLee
      @SirLucasOfLee 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      When I describe Dark Deception to horror fans I say, “Silent Hill if it were a fast paced arcade anime game.”
      The story about Doug taking his family for granted and realising they were the only ones who loved him is clearly based on Silent Hill.
      The way each level sticks to a formula and how you get a ranking at the end is based on old arcade games.
      The powers you upgrade are similar to fighter games and the art style is clearly based on anime. The fact that Bierce says, “The rings power is even greater than I imagined,” and how she reveals a final special attack in the ballroom cutscene are anime cliches.
      Of course Dark Deception is a bad mascot horror game, that’s because it isn’t a mascot horror game. It’s not comparable to FNAF or GoBB. Imagine reviewing the Star Wars movies from the lens of an astrology documentary.

    • @hoesficfiric7473
      @hoesficfiric7473 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And that's the sad part, it's genuinely one of the most unique indie games who is actually trying to be different instead of just following the same old trope.

  • @DIAMOND61
    @DIAMOND61 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +92

    Dark Deception should not be getting hate it’s not fair to them.

    • @TrueCreepaster
      @TrueCreepaster 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You don't know all the story

    • @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807
      @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@TrueCreepaster well dev drama aside we re purely talking about the game itself here

    • @ShadowUmbra57
      @ShadowUmbra57 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@TrueCreepaster There hasn't been one update on ch5

    • @TrueCreepaster
      @TrueCreepaster 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ShadowUmbra57 ??

    • @ShadowUmbra57
      @ShadowUmbra57 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TrueCreepaster There hasn't been one trailer that I was so focused on and I checked for any updates but there's no trailers.

  • @ScpVelvet
    @ScpVelvet 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +86

    Tbh people are calling out Dark Deception for being boring/repetitive but collecting shards is the whole game
    You don’t expect a shard collecting horror game to involve parkour or guns and shooting

    • @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807
      @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      It isnt even boring or repetitive because each level has competely different maps enemies and mechanics. It just has its base mechanic and it throws a lot more on top of that. Powers mechanics boss fights and also story

    • @SQUISHYCANDYGUT
      @SQUISHYCANDYGUT 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@thatanimegirlwiththecape4807fr like how is it “repetitive” if it’s different every time 💀

    • @Unknown-hq4cp
      @Unknown-hq4cp 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      they just love to blame it for keeping the pacman part in it, well duh, it's the main mechanic of the game, but it doesn't mean it's repetetive just cause of that. You can pretty much say the same about any other game, it's just always easier to hate on something extraordinary, something you don't understand, and more importantly don't want to understand.

    • @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807
      @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Unknown-hq4cp thats just bs and people are finding excuses just to hate. How tf do you dislike a game just because it has an arcade style gameplay? Thats the whole fucking point! Its meant to be 80s! Are you trying to say arcade games are bad? Arcade games might even be when was the golden era of gaming. Back then people would only play video game purely for fun!

    • @Unknown-hq4cp
      @Unknown-hq4cp 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@thatanimegirlwiththecape4807 today people prefer games be like: Hold W to win.

  • @ThisChannelIsAbandoned300
    @ThisChannelIsAbandoned300 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    I think that Glowstick probably should have finished the base game before making M&M and SDD, because now the wait for CH5 is even longer

    • @Dust_Error0101
      @Dust_Error0101 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They confirmed that 75% of the focus is on chapter 5 15% going to sdd and 10% going to m&m

    • @Unknown-hq4cp
      @Unknown-hq4cp 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well, Super Dark Deception doesn’t even involve any of original Dark Deception creators (except Vince, he’s like a director of all their games anyway) and also M&M doesn’t seem to affect ch5, cause all the recent DLC’s were already started in development back in days of chapter 4 release.

  • @Unknown-hq4cp
    @Unknown-hq4cp 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Let’s all be clear here. They’re saying that cause they’re just too excited for chapter 5, if the game would really be bad people wouldn’t remember it after 5 YEARS and definitely wouldn’t start all this “hate” marathon. Just looks more like an attempt to stimulate the devs 😅
    Toxic fans are the most loyal fans… the people who really don't care just leave
    - Vince Livings 2020

  • @princeinsomniac
    @princeinsomniac 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    DD is not even close to one of the worst indie horror game/mascot horror game out there that's insanely disrespectful and I honestly believe theyre tripping if they say that. chapter 1-4 has been amazing. This game isnt bad, it just takes awhile. People are just crying about it, it's stupid and just uncalled for. Youre hating for the sake of hating. There's some bad situations sure, but that doesnt mean the games bad. probs gonna make a video about how I feel people are being cry babys. Because this game isnt bad. "the games repeditive" homie... fnaf? bendy? REBEDITIVE ALL THE TIME YET IS ONE OF THE BEST GAMES OUT THERE. The game is repeditive in a way, but you get tons of new things to use for the gameplay, there's a lot of pros and cons for every game. No need to push about saying the games horrible and is the WORST ever. Thats stupid.

    • @Jess_594
      @Jess_594 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Well said

    • @Unknown-hq4cp
      @Unknown-hq4cp 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      It’s in fact pretty much the best one.

    • @MRstarmaster
      @MRstarmaster 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I 💯% agree with you 👍

    • @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807
      @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Unknown-hq4cp better than poppy playtime imo. Dark deception is full of adrenaline mechanics and constant anxiety and fear. Poppy playtime is pretty much puzzles all the way with a small amount of chase scenes here and there. Not saying this is bad. I love poppy too. But dark deception is where the gameplay experience is at. It reminds you of how games used to be back in the old days. With arcade games requiring skill and strategy to beat.

    • @Unknown-hq4cp
      @Unknown-hq4cp 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@thatanimegirlwiththecape4807 Poppy cannot even compete with Dark Deception, it sucks as it is by default.

  • @veltzon4322
    @veltzon4322 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    I highly doubt Chapter 5's absolute snoozefest of buildup is the main factor of this surgence in vitriol. I have had a good amount of criticisms about Dark Deception as a whole which, unfortunately, were only furthermore proved upon Chapter 4's release. The difficulty balancing, the poor optimisation, infrequent glitches... along with a vast multitude of other things. I'm not saying the hate Dark Deception is getting is necessarily "deserved," but I would be lying if I said it wasn't without it's reason and merit. Even more so than other games of Dark Deception's calibre.
    Maybe at some point you could make a video addressing all the criticisms and how you think things could go better on behalf of the development of Dark Deception?

  • @SirLucasOfLee
    @SirLucasOfLee 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Part of the hate is impatience with the slow development, impatience with the bugs that don’t get fixed, impatience with waiting for the next teaser, resentment towards the spin-offs because it takes away development time from the main game, resentment towards the dev team because of the crossovers that go sour and how they offer to publish over people’s games. But most of all, people don’t know what type of game DD is. Is it a mascot horror or not? The internet only knows how to review an indie horror game from the lens of mascot horror. This leads to people having unfair expectations that won’t get met because the game they get is different to the game they are told about.
    When I describe Dark Deception to horror fans I say, “Silent Hill if it were a fast paced arcade anime game.” I wouldn’t describe it as a mascot horror game because that sets certain expectations of the type of story it should be and how it will be told that don’t apply to DD. Vince has always said publicly what has inspired DD and never once was mascot horror mentioned.
    The story about Doug taking his family for granted and realising they were the only ones who loved him is clearly based on Silent Hill. The way each level sticks to a formula and how you get a ranking at the end is based on old arcade games. The powers you upgrade are similar to fighter games and the art style is clearly based on anime. The fact that Bierce says, “The rings power is even greater than I imagined,” and how she reveals a final special attack in the ballroom cutscene are anime cliches.
    Of course Dark Deception is a bad mascot horror game, that’s because it isn’t a mascot horror game. It’s not comparable to FNAF or GoBB and it doesn’t try to be like them. Imagine reviewing the Star Wars movies from the lens of an astrology documentary. Just because Star Wars is in space doesn’t mean it’s scientifically accurate . Just like how Dark Deception having the Joy Joy Gang doesn’t mean it is a mascot horror game.

    • @vincentsgames9876
      @vincentsgames9876 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      people calling mascot mayhem a fnaf clone have no idea what they're talking about like just play the game don't watch people play it and go "BORING"

  • @MeestarManiacFilms
    @MeestarManiacFilms 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I really like these types of videos. No over the top editing, no meme sound effects, just SmackNPie sitting down & talking to us.

  • @vincentsgames9876
    @vincentsgames9876 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Dark Deception:
    1. Most creative horror game EVER
    2. Not repetitive
    3. Funny
    4. Fun
    5. Infinitely replayable
    6. I love Deadly Decadence
    7. GOAT

    • @Rexille_Creative
      @Rexille_Creative 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Vince:
      1. Bullshit
      2. Can't keep his promise

    • @Unknown-hq4cp
      @Unknown-hq4cp 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@Rexille_Creative 3. Design genius
      4. Business man
      5. Unbreakable man with passion
      6. Dad
      7. Visionary
      8. GOAT

    • @feederico1011
      @feederico1011 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No way chapter 5 isnt out yet...

    • @vincentsgames9876
      @vincentsgames9876 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@feederico1011 go hate somewhere else please

  • @DIAMOND61
    @DIAMOND61 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Security breach is easily worse and garten of ban ban is easily worse. Dark Deceptions lore and cutscenes and soundtrack and characters have already been amazing people are failing to realize that.. especially the visuals this type of thing doesn’t take long people who hate it that much just doesn’t make too much sense it’s either them being salty that it’s taking too long or that they are just simply bad at the game.

    • @Pengsibakottage4228
      @Pengsibakottage4228 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Garten of banban has got better now... And security breach ruin? You are ungrateful for their hardworking game.. These developers(Garten of banban) Are trying their best bc they are new to 3d games and their old ones are 2d So don't blame it on the devs Blame it on society And no its not about cutscenes its about the look.. Gobb VII is gonna be better now so don't hate on these games! No I'm not hating dark deception if that's what you think.

    • @kennytherager2306
      @kennytherager2306 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Pengsibakottage4228are you gen alpha?

    • @Jess_594
      @Jess_594 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@popokottage4228 garten of banban is garbage, get that into your head, I agree that SB is good but Garten of BanBan is trash it has not gotten better the game is just cashgrab

    • @Pengsibakottage4228
      @Pengsibakottage4228 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Okay srsly how i am I gen alpha? I'm just saying my opinion...

    • @Pengsibakottage4228
      @Pengsibakottage4228 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kennytherager2306 Okay srsly I'm trying to explain that garten of banban is new bc The developers Are 2d Makers not 3d So they are trying their best And shut up "Gen alpha" Do I look like a gen alpha And my profile is a Football fan.

  • @floweytheflower7059
    @floweytheflower7059 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Just because they haven't released Chapter 5 yet, doesn't mean that you have to hate the game, they gotta put time into it and try make it good as possible.

    • @roeital5504
      @roeital5504 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its not about time, they just start every side quest instead of doing the main quest, this is the last chapter, they can just release it then focus on the other games entirely

  • @Unknown-hq4cp
    @Unknown-hq4cp 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    You know what makes me more mad? - Smacks reaction to it, like he's almost admitting that Dark Deception is bad. I'm sorry, but it is in fact a masterpiece of indie horror and there is no shame of saying that it is in fact even better than titles like Resident Evil because of how unique it is and how much effore was putted into it, hell it's just plays better than games like Resident Evil or Silent Hill, every aspect of it is perfect: from graphics to the gameplay, from characters to the story, like I don't even understand what you mean by saying that the lore is meh, there was no better story telling in horror games for ages than what we got in Dark Deception! This is just straight up disrespect from you and bending under these no-brain haters who couldn't even give any arguments on why they are hating it.

  • @EmiliaWfromEBaBFP
    @EmiliaWfromEBaBFP 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Calling DD boring for only collecting shards all the time is like saying FNAF is boring for watching animatronics for 5 days till 6AM

    • @Unknown-hq4cp
      @Unknown-hq4cp 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The fun thing is that fnaf does actually get repetitive, cause unlike in DD, nothing really changes in this game except the difficulty…

  • @nathansniffletonthealicorn5913
    @nathansniffletonthealicorn5913 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Dark Deception is getting hate because Glowstick Entertainment made too many lies. Well, if this is what Glowstick gets, then I'll just... I don't know. Do some anime racing like IGPX or Highspeed Etoile or something like that. 😞

  • @Roxy_Roxi
    @Roxy_Roxi 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Imo, my only real issue is the lack of marketing. I get it can be difficult to choose what to show bc spoilers, but a lot of the fan base knows (some of) the main things that will happen in Chapter 5. (Like Elise and Tammy playing a bigger role, Malak fight, Dark Star and Puppet King appearing, etc)
    So imo, I feel like they should show off something simple like just Dark Star in her level. It doesn’t need to be super complicated.

  • @GasterBlaster36
    @GasterBlaster36 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    wow, who new that a maze escape game could be a walking simulator or get repetitive. i had no idea....

    • @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807
      @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Especially when you re being stalked or chased all the time and you have 6 different superpowers. Yup.. walking simulator

    • @billcipher6973
      @billcipher6973 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yep and it's not like the monsters that are chasing you are all the same and don't have special abilities themselves

    • @ShadowUmbra57
      @ShadowUmbra57 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Do one of y'all have any tips on how to beat the Agatha level in Super Dark Deception?

    • @JEB511
      @JEB511 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@ShadowUmbra57been a long time since I played SDD. Sorry you may have to ask other people

    • @ShadowUmbra57
      @ShadowUmbra57 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@JEB511 that's fine I struggled so hard with the level I kept dying in zone 2

  • @blockwarrior0088
    @blockwarrior0088 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Arguably poppy playtime has more repetitive mechanics than dd. Its litterally just do some puzzles then get chased.

  • @Jess_594
    @Jess_594 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    People can't have any respect nowadays

    • @Hefty_bug64
      @Hefty_bug64 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh wow, no idea people don’t have respect. It’s not like I figured that out after one day of using twitter (or x)

    • @Jess_594
      @Jess_594 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Hefty_bug64 fr

    • @DX-222
      @DX-222 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Brainless twitter people always are trying to hate something, which is pretty dumb

  • @user-ug3ry9xu5g
    @user-ug3ry9xu5g 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    yes i kinda agree that they shouldnt be taking on so many side projects about the main game when its not even finished because take SDD for example, SDDCH3 and DDCH5 are going to drop at the same time and since i firmly believe most people who play SDD do so because they play DD, i believe that most people will run to play DDCH5 over SDDCH3 when they both drop, the only people playing SDDCH3 first are those who found SDD for their love of 2D horror games or people wanting to be the first to make content on it since they know most people are gonna play DDCH5 first then SDDCH3 later.
    and im not too worried about cory forgetting about ch5 because he promised he would play it as soon as it launches and the gap between ch3 and ch4 was 827 days while were currently at 953 days since ch4 which is 126 days by so far so not that huge of a difference considering things. its also one of his most popular series and theres people spamming his comments every day to play ddch5 so i think people would be so angry if he didnt. but there is still a chance since ch5 isnt coming out until september at the very earliest.
    i think the marketing for ch5 is usually dead because vince doesnt wanna spoil too much because its more fun when a lot of things are surprises but theres still so many things he can show without spoiling. since we have the full appearance of puppet king and dark star through the plushies already the dark deception team can do something where they reveal more and more of the full model with a new pic showing more and more of them every week maybe until we get the full model reveal which will have something for us waiting for ch5 to look forward to. or they can show us a close up screenshot of the floor or wall of a random location and everyone will get really excited still because were desperate to see literally anything. another good idea is they tweet really small almost irrelevant stuff that happens in the game for example they tweet "fun fact puppet king days the word 'the' more than 1 time in holiday horror" and we would get excited still because we are now thinking of him talking and saying that word + more.
    the lack of news or teasers does get a lot of people to forget the game which is true because i always see a lot of people saying they forgot dark deception existed after ch4, with some even saying they didnt know ch4 actually released or that they forgot there is a 5th chapter and they thought it ended at bearly buried.

  • @ShoshoDupers
    @ShoshoDupers 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    i don't blame people for being even a little bit impatient for CH5, but with the recent release of OSTs it looks like more major content might be on its way.

  • @flyscout7116
    @flyscout7116 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    i won't say Dark Deception is a mascot horror game

    • @SirLucasOfLee
      @SirLucasOfLee 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I always say, “If Dark Deception counts as mascot horror then so does Silent Hill.”

    • @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807
      @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@SirLucasOfLee perfectly said

  • @mateus3306
    @mateus3306 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    For me, I don't think Dark Deception could be considered a Mascot Horror game just because it has the Murder Monkeys, the Joy Joy Gang, Mama Bear, etc. Because if that were the case, Silent Hill would also be considered a Mascot Horror game, just because it has Robbie the rabbit.
    (Besides, Dark Deception came out before this genre of games became popular).

  • @ThatOneGoofyGamer
    @ThatOneGoofyGamer 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Drama aside, that was a damn good transition at 5:48

  • @brianknowles3558
    @brianknowles3558 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Didn’t know this has been happening. I’ve been chilling with other things and occasionally checking if Chapter 5 had been released yet.

  • @BuriedSoil5675
    @BuriedSoil5675 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Genuinely didn’t expect you to see my comment let alone have it your video lol
    But yeah I feel like most of these points are entirely right. The wait for dark deception has turned into an on and off style of game.
    But hopefully everything works out in the end.

  • @ic_rustlandcoco4041
    @ic_rustlandcoco4041 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Like wow It's extremely hard to ignore the hate this game is unfairly getting bc people have the kiddy braincells to not understand the purpose of this game. I am still NOT giving up on this game bc of It's potential being viable and I refuse to call this game a Mascot Horror

    • @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807
      @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      People are going like "this is bad it shouldnt be pacman". Being pacman is the whole point you absolute doofs

    • @Unknown-hq4cp
      @Unknown-hq4cp 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yea, theBadd3st is an absolute king of these idiоts.

  • @lucasmarrero2544
    @lucasmarrero2544 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is stupid... and to even call any of this a "controversy" is also ridiculous. These are baseless accusations coming from nobody's with no substantial intellect, background, or status that gives their false statements any realistic merit whatsoever! What we should be doing as a community who loves and cherishes Dark Deception for the amazing and INCREDIBLE game that is, is simply ignoring these outrageous and obnoxious statements from people who clearly have no legitimate criticism to offer and does not understand the game!

  • @DarkDeceptions
    @DarkDeceptions 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I just play other games to pass the time but if i have to say anything its has to be bince needs to stop doing release dates thats one of the reasons the hate is getting out of hand

  • @vincentsgames9876
    @vincentsgames9876 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I had a short back and forth with the shipwrecked 64 dev, who is actually a bit older than me, where I called him out for his unproffesionalism and how Vince would never do something like this. He responded by clowning on me for accidentally spelling like as lime, in my hasty typing. When I called him out for his lazy response, he said he was done replying to "Vince meatrider". (My name is also Vincent). Do NOT listen to these people they don't have the darndest clue what the hell they're talking about.
    Edit: one of them suggested to hang me now

  • @ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590
    @ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh no, oh no no no no no no no, dark deception is not suppose to get hate,

  • @kaitlynhowell
    @kaitlynhowell 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WHAT??!! AGAIN?!! Honestly, after everything that’s been happening, I’m at the same time not even surprised.

  • @theterrarian404
    @theterrarian404 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don't forget the fact that we are still getting news about Super Dark Deception and Monsters and Mortals, Vince also said that he did have family emergencies irl and didn't want Chapter 5 to be a spoiler filled room. I do think that Chapter 5 will be worth the wait.

  • @fiveapollo4206
    @fiveapollo4206 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    My problem ain’t the waiting for new content, it’s how they listening to the fans & them making excuses for not being able to. One of them being the fact M&M is unplayable for low end users like me all because of the whole Unreal Engine 5 installment when Yandere Simulator DLC released & they won’t release a version that still uses UE4. Many online games like tabletop simulator have this feature & they work just fine. If they can make it happen, so can M&M!
    And another is the fact they won’t make an Xbox One or Switch port for M&M because in their words “Xbox One & Switch are about as powerful as a 2017 mobile phone & that they can’t handle UE5.” All that there is bullshit & nothing but a lie! If this was the case, then why are there UE5 games like MK1 on switch, and why is multiversus returning to Xbox One with UE5?! Also, a Switch & Xbox One is more powerful than a fucking mobile phone back in 2017! It doesn’t make sense how they’re fine with making a port for PS4, but not for Xbox One even though they’re both in the same generation! All they’re doing is making excuses for not wanting to make specific changes & ports for low end users! They clearly don’t care or respect the low end users who like the series just like me!

  • @Sasha-ub6ns
    @Sasha-ub6ns 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    How about making a video about the Russian part of DD community on TH-cam? There will be a lot of material, there are no such stupid toxic haters like Russian DD TH-camrs in any country other than Russia. (I speak as a person, who is part of this community and lives in this country).

  • @clashkingking6193
    @clashkingking6193 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nahh tbf I kinda forgot about dark deception but I was hyped for ch4 and when ur hyped for something time moves more slowly so when I forgot it was like 2 years by the time I realised and now I’m actually not too fussed

  • @Qwertyexists
    @Qwertyexists 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    DD is getting hate but those people probably didn't know or remember the pressure on RobTop for the past 6 years and 11 months developing 2.2; more features were being added, bugs everywhere, practically the same as DD but no arguements or breakouts have occurred, just impatient fans that have calmed down. I slightly dreaded 2.2 coming out but the game is healthy again.

  • @BlackLadyRockz
    @BlackLadyRockz 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dont think DD is a mascot horror game and I think the hate has come from the frustration some feel because theres no real development or signs the chapter is gonna come anytime soon... This is one of the few games I actually find interesting but I legit forgot about it for a while because I feel theyre trying to do many things at once but not delivering properly with any of them... To me, the main game should be priority but it has been delayed time and time again wdekw anymore...

  • @JunyHernandez
    @JunyHernandez 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Off topic but is Super dark deception coming to switch still.

  • @KillerCagney
    @KillerCagney 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ngl I'm still confused, can someone tell me what's actually going on in terms of drama?

    • @Unknown-hq4cp
      @Unknown-hq4cp 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Inpatient Toxic fans whining about ch5 not coming out so they started their “motivational bulling”. Nothing fancy

  • @Herobri-kh6gw
    @Herobri-kh6gw 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    When will Chapter 3 of Super Dark Deception Strange Sewers be released? if Vince drags out chapter 3 too much then I'll grow old

  • @mavikartal7775
    @mavikartal7775 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Still waiting for release date

  • @andryusgustavo9148
    @andryusgustavo9148 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Some people just hate the main gameplay. I personally love it the gameplay, but some people just think it is bad and boring. Two big youtubers that hate Dark Deception are The Badd3st and David Baron. Why they hate it? I believe that they just dont like the main gameplay. And there is nothing the devs can do to change it. I understand calling it repetitive, i understand not liking the lore, i even understand finding the gameplay boring, but i disagree with everything.

    • @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807
      @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The games meant to be inspired from original arcade games like pacman. There is nothing the devs can do about it wheather they like it or not. They shouldnt critisize something thats simply the core game design.

    • @andryusgustavo9148
      @andryusgustavo9148 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@thatanimegirlwiththecape4807 Agreed.

    • @SirLucasOfLee
      @SirLucasOfLee 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think there is something appealing to the repetitive nature of DD’s game design, particularly to an autistic way of playing games. Each level follows a formula (Enter the level, meet the enemy, collect the shards, fight the boss, escape). Each level adds a new power and the enemies get more complicated. The repetition feels safe and comforting for minds that want everything to stay the same. Whenever I’m stressed I like to put on a playthrough of DD because I know what will happen, no surprises, just run around and listen to the sound of collecting shards.
      Also, DD portrays autism really well. The struggles and anxieties that Tammy and Elise feel are so relatable. The judgement they get from Doug is accurate to how autistic people are treated in real life, made to feel like a burden just for existing. The CH5 teasers we’ve got about Tammy and penguins also shows her special interests which I’m happy to see. Vince donates money to good autism charities, he clearly knows a lot and cares about the autism experience.

    • @andryusgustavo9148
      @andryusgustavo9148 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SirLucasOfLee Great comment.

    • @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807
      @thatanimegirlwiththecape4807 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SirLucasOfLee There are literally so many games that follow this formula. Having a base mechanic for the whole game and bulding on top of it. Games that are actually repetitive use the same maps and same mechanics over and over without adding anything new. Dark deception does not do that

  • @v2b712
    @v2b712 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'll say this, I agree your point on the fact that this is a niche game. This game is directed to a very specific kind of audience. Personally I haven't actually followed the lore of DD until CH4 and I feel like people are exaggerating that it's confusing. I also don't particularly agree that we didn't get any updates on the game. While there was no commentary or music videos like for CH4 we do get OSTs and QandA from the developer. Do I wish we got more footage? Of course. But as someone who also follows the development of Deltarune I can understand that all we can do as a community is wait. That being said I do understand the frustration the community has regarding M&M and SDD. To me they seem like filler that the developers created to avoid working on the core game. At one point it seemed M&M was getting more attention then the main game, till its progress started to slow.
    The Tl;Dr is that as long as there are some form of updates to the development I'll be satisfied.

  • @exode7414
    @exode7414 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I agree with you baldis basics ain't bad but dd is waaaaaay better then baldis basics

  • @Rquas
    @Rquas 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Vince's been a little too ambitious with his last chapter.

    • @Unknown-hq4cp
      @Unknown-hq4cp 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ok, so the game is bad now cause of that?!

    • @Rquas
      @Rquas 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​​​@@Unknown-hq4cp who told the game was bad, I was taking about the time it is taking for this chapter to even be atleast "teased" a little bit. (Except for the fact that he just comes out his of den, posts random renders and goes back into hiding)
      This amount of time is enough to create a full fledged indie game even if it is just a team of 4 or 5 people. Not to mention but, this team is also quite experienced.
      So either Vince just ' don't care' about the community or the recognition his title "was" receiving , or he's just really really ambitious: large project, wonder of the 21st century, cutting edge technology and dynamics, head blowing voice acting, revolutionizing graphics, gameplay smooth as butter , and totally bug free fully immersive 3-4hrs of your entire life , more than real life ..(quit exaggerated ngl). Maybe that is what he wants, who knows its one thing or the other..

  • @laraprisma6381
    @laraprisma6381 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Even with all the explanations you gave, I still don't understand how so many people hate this game (and I just discovered that!). Also, the collab with YanSim started before Alex was exposed as a pedophile, and I think they canceled the collab? I never saw the final version of Yansim mode so I don't know if it was canceled or not.
    Anyway, DD remains an underrated game! Well, at least for me.

    • @sasharollingsky
      @sasharollingsky 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It came out a year ago as a dlc for their multiplayer game Monsters & Mortals, but it was removed a few months later after another controversy around YandereDev

    • @laraprisma6381
      @laraprisma6381 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sasharollingsky Yeah, at least they don't want to associate with him anymore. People can't just act like they know about YanDev's d*generacy!

  • @Robotinx
    @Robotinx 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hello there!
    I think ch5 will be out soon

    • @johntownsendiii9737
      @johntownsendiii9737 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What Month will be out?

    • @Robotinx
      @Robotinx 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@johntownsendiii9737 IDK I'm not creator

  • @joshuameyers7840
    @joshuameyers7840 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It was bad enough when chapter 4 was getting delayed.

    • @Unknown-hq4cp
      @Unknown-hq4cp 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wha..? 🫤

    • @joshuameyers7840
      @joshuameyers7840 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Unknown-hq4cp well remember when chapter 4 got delayed multiple times and everyone gotten really mad at them

  • @Ayaansquad
    @Ayaansquad 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When chapter 5 coming if they say hate comments on the game, don’t do that. It’s the game is good. That’s why I played every day.

  • @crowpond3665
    @crowpond3665 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Goddammit I just got back into DD last night

  • @wdotwreckvideos
    @wdotwreckvideos 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Most if not all those fans are getting mad over nothing. It's just a game and there some been at least some (Not alot) teasers. Of course, this all stemmed from twitter

  • @maxigromek4444
    @maxigromek4444 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Again?

  • @user-bf6kl7nt7e
    @user-bf6kl7nt7e 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i just want chapter 5 to come out............😭😭😭😭😭😭😢😢

    • @ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590
      @ABPinkandBlueAbestie5590 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dont worry it will release this year some day ( not bullying you )

  • @ritablankenship1650
    @ritablankenship1650 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ngl I’m just here waiting for the whole thingy where dd comes to xbox

  • @DunkBunk-io3um
    @DunkBunk-io3um 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When will you make andy apple's farm chapter 2?

  • @marcelolopes735
    @marcelolopes735 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im not surprised but
    Dangthey gonna target DD now while its been worked on?
    Even bendy and the dark revival had almost the same thing
    No wonder why security breach became the worst/rushed fnaf game
    Fans really wanna ruin the game by rushing the devs

  • @leromantiquechatnoir4100
    @leromantiquechatnoir4100 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Poor Vince. : (

  • @pilloeglade5463
    @pilloeglade5463 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What's wrong with horror pac man?

  • @Jervis-JehanYvesLaurent
    @Jervis-JehanYvesLaurent 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    All of a sudden :0

  • @MRstarmaster
    @MRstarmaster 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ok normally I don’t comment on these kind of situations but I feel like I just have to for this one. I’m so so sorry if I sound mean when talking about this situation I don’t want to sound rude. But you cannot and I mean CANNOT say that Dark Deception is the worst horror game. In fact I think it is one of the best horror games that I’ve seen. Now I’m not saying that it’s the greatest horror game ever to be made. But it is a great game to me and others. Also there is no way you can compare Dark Deception with Fnaf Security Breach, Hello neighbor, or Gartan of BanBan. And heck I love all of those horror games too even Gartan of BanBan. But Dark Deception is one of my absolute favorites. The graphics are amazing, the cutscenes work smoothly, the level designs are creative, the lore is nice and simple, and the game is challenging hard and fun. And yes there are a ton of flaws and glitches but you can’t blame Vince. Every game will always have a flaw and that’s ok.
    Now here’s the real deal and before I start explaining this I want to point out that this is towards the people who keep’s arguing and yelling towards Vince about the release dates and about the game not being good enough. If you have supported Vince or have been patient I just have to say thank you so much for being helpful and loyal to Vince and especially the community of Glowstick Entertainment ❤❤❤
    For the people who’s causing this hate towards Dark Deception I just want to let you know one thing. You guys have been constantly yelling at Vince about when is Chapter 3 going to be out or why Chapter 4 is taking so long and then when it comes out you guys then complain to Vince why is chapter 3 or 4 so broken or why is it so boring or bad. WHY DO YOU THINK ITS BROKEN. You guys have been rushing Vince so much on this project. He’s so overwhelmed on all these comments on why the chapters aren’t out yet. And then when he finally finishes them for you guys you just go on and on the poor guy how it’s not good enough and that it’s a mess. Now I’m definitely not mad at you guys but I am a little frustrated because you guys need to know that making a video game takes so much time and takes years to finish. Take Bendy and the Dark Revival for example that game took years to finish and even though there still was so many ungrateful comments that criticized the Meatly he was able to push through and take as long as the game needed and now look at it. That game was amazing and there are alot of scary parts that jumped me. So back to Dark Deception if you guys weren’t so impatient and rude to Vince he might have been able to do more with this game. So for the people who are causing this mess I just want to say to them very positively and politely. Please don’t rush Glowstick entertainment for making a game. It takes ages to make a whole video game and it’s an achievement to finish it with all the hard work you put in it. Also don’t be so rude to them because the game is hard. The game is supposed to be hard and challenging it’s what makes it fun. Also also Dark Deception isn’t just walking through a maze collecting shards you also are being chased by multiple monsters that use their own abilities . And you do realize you have powers that you need to use to your advantage. This is what makes the game so great to lots of people. So again please don’t hate on this game for the lack of time because you cannot rush a video game that needs tons of work on it for it to be good. 👍

  • @xanderbunn1220
    @xanderbunn1220 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't have time to watch this until after school so can someone give me the rundown-

    • @Unknown-hq4cp
      @Unknown-hq4cp 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It's just Toxic fans can't wait for chapter 5, so they started shitting on twitter. Nothing new, honestly.

    • @marcelolopes735
      @marcelolopes735 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Unknown-hq4cp
      Makes sense why they said security breach was rushed.
      The fans literally wanna rush the devs and at the end they gonna cry like babies saying
      "The game felt rushed"

    • @xanderbunn1220
      @xanderbunn1220 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Unknown-hq4cp that's so fucking sad. I have faith chapter 5 will be good and I can be patient. Chapter 4 took a while and that shit was a banger, so I'll be as patient as I need to be for chapter 5.

    • @Unknown-hq4cp
      @Unknown-hq4cp 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@xanderbunn1220 it's actually good in a way, cause that really shows the game stays alive upon this day, cause all the hate comes just because people want to play it so badly, and if there wasn't any hate then it would mean nobody cares anymore, so cheer up.

  • @harveygarcia7615
    @harveygarcia7615 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dark Deception Chapters 5 2024, Right Everyones

    • @user-ug3ry9xu5g
      @user-ug3ry9xu5g 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      its possible that it could slip into 2025

  • @oscarhenriquetiradorodrigu8476
    @oscarhenriquetiradorodrigu8476 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  • @user-ts7vt5bd4y
    @user-ts7vt5bd4y 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes

  • @Ayaansquad
    @Ayaansquad 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I made a TH-cam video of it

  • @exode7414
    @exode7414 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello neighbor is the worst horror game of all time not dd

    • @maksymilianpartyka7290
      @maksymilianpartyka7290 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tru

    • @Jess_594
      @Jess_594 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'd say GoBB is

    • @samuel-the-italian
      @samuel-the-italian 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      wrong garten of banban Is the worst

    • @exode7414
      @exode7414 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@samuel-the-italian I somewhat agree because the game is a copy cat of poppy playtime but the difference with garden of banban and hello neighbor is that hello neighbor is buggy and unfinished garten of banban isn't

    • @Sasha-ub6ns
      @Sasha-ub6ns 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, Poopy Shittime is much worse.

  • @boar_attack
    @boar_attack 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Guys who's hates dark deception without any arguments simply don't know how hard gamedev is. Yes, Ch4 was kinda disappointment, but still amazing. Glowstick Entertainment was just an little group of talented people, and now they have 40+ people working on games. This is progress. And dark deception is such a unique game, with unique community.

    • @Destorydan
      @Destorydan 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What do you mean chapter 4 disappointed you? Give me reasons

    • @Jess_594
      @Jess_594 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Destorydan it has loads of glitches that should've been fixed, but it was still amazing despite the small mistakes

    • @boar_attack
      @boar_attack 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Destorydan It wasn't the chapter itself that disappointed me, it was Mascot Mayhem. Vince said, "MM will be a huge and hard level." But we got quite a small level, which seems worse and undeveloped compared to, for example, Bearly Buried. Doug's memory section simply saves entire level. Also watch the “animatronic atrocity.” This game is literally Mascot Mayhem that everyone was expecting. In no way do I blame Vince himself for everything, but damn, if the chapter itself had come out a little better it would have been awesome. But chapter so good already :)

    • @rolandtarczali4883
      @rolandtarczali4883 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Destorydan My main problem is mascot mayhem.
      The map is .. well, weird.
      What is even worse that you have to optimise hangry's skill to be able to get the S rank, which is pretty based on luck.
      And hangry is kinda.. uh.. broken.

    • @TheButterSurge
      @TheButterSurge 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@boar_attackisn't it quite large? Haven't played the level in a while

  • @oscarhenriquetiradorodrigu8476
    @oscarhenriquetiradorodrigu8476 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's not fair and possible

  • @oscarhenriquetiradorodrigu8476
    @oscarhenriquetiradorodrigu8476 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If This Takes Ω years in making games the games Will be very epic
    No, Seriously The Chapter 5 Will Be Epic

  • @karlkelly1082
    @karlkelly1082 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's honestly disgraceful that Dark Deception is getting so much hate the series deserves so much more love man luckily I'll always love the franchise for my whole life and I'll wait as long as I have to for Chapter 5 to release the same with the Banban franchise in my opinion both of these franchises deserves the love that they can get and I hope they both have a bright future ahead of them #LoveDDForever and #LoveBanbanForever ❤🥰😇🙏

  • @GilDragonGamer
    @GilDragonGamer 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Okay, why do people have to hate on Dark Deception, if their gonna act like that, then they should just go home or something, cuz I don’t like it when people are toxic and hateful in the community.

    • @Unknown-hq4cp
      @Unknown-hq4cp 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Humans sucks, y’know. It’s nature

  • @joshuameyers7840
    @joshuameyers7840 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Then again, I can’t even beat the stupid deadly glitchy doom ducky, because his big crappy head keeps glitching through the pillars, which is why I can’t even play the rest of the game. They need to fix it

    • @user-ro3zt9bm2b
      @user-ro3zt9bm2b 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You need to get a better pc instead of your potato-garbage, cause this bug is not caused by the game but your very low fps. You should read the minimum pc requirements first before playing the game, y’know 😂

    • @Jess_594
      @Jess_594 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There's a little trick to it

    • @Jess_594
      @Jess_594 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @user-ro3zt9bm2b bro, this is a bug of the game actually, stop acting all mighty and cool kid

  • @Unknown-hq4cp
    @Unknown-hq4cp 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    You should ask them what is the best horror game in their opinion then. I bet the answer will be something like Bendy or Poppy Shittime (y’know the one that has 1 mechanic for an entire game and some absolute nonsense of a lore, that’s what they consider a good horror game, but Dark Deception is bad cause it’s made some crossovers, which are not even connected to the main game). 🫠

  • @Mirebusijo
    @Mirebusijo 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I told you, this chapter will never be released, chapter 5 is just a fairy tale made by Vince

    • @thecrazyyoutuber1454
      @thecrazyyoutuber1454 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      When chapter 5 comes out am gonna laugh at your comment

    • @Jess_594
      @Jess_594 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'll be laughig when ch5 comes out

    • @Destorydan
      @Destorydan 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Lots of people use this type of meme for ch4

    • @marcelolopes735
      @marcelolopes735 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It will comeout goddamn it
      Have patience

    • @Dowux
      @Dowux 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ah yes a way to cope for long waiting