In today's episode, we discuss: 0:00:47 - Inspiration for Michael’s latest book, Scarcity Brain 0:02:45 - Evolutionary adaptations to the scarcity of food contrasted with the modern obesity crisis 0:09:22 - Lessons learned about diet and nutrition from living with hunter-gatherers 0:21:29 - The impact of ultra-processed foods on energy balance 0:29:33 - Michael’s experience with attempting the hunter-gatherer diet at home 0:36:22 - The roots of excess: factors that contribute to overeating and the varied vulnerabilities among individuals 0:42:53 - The scarcity loop: how components of the scarcity loop are illustrated in gambling and addiction 0:55:05 - Using knowledge of the scarcity loop to break the cycle 1:03:09 - The evolutionary drive to acquire material possessions 1:12:56 - The benefits of boredom and value of exploration 1:23:27 - The consequences of an attention economy driven by negativity bias 1:30:38 - Navigating the world of endless information and the value in “slow information” 1:41:57 - Defining happiness, and the downward trend in reports of happiness 1:48:06 - Purpose, austerity, self-reliance and other missing elements of happiness gleaned from the study of monks 2:00:12 - The value in uncomfortable activities that increase your awareness, presence, and will to live
Have known, or known of, Dr. Attilla for awhile, mostly from podcast soundbites. Just saw the longevity graph, taught in measured tones on an old school blackboard in a somewhat dim, maybe modern?, setting, and the aesthetic very much clicked. In a very opposite of "click-bait" way actually. And then I just heard something that sealed the deal for me. At 3:16 I love the awareness of his, understandable, bias toward a biological leap as being paramount in human evolution. The evidence is tangible and he is a thinking man I sense, so the theory seems 100% legit:, energy conservation, which has solid, literal validity. But it sounds to me like he opened his mind to a different narrative so to speak, by seeing the real power and impact of an unseen and untouchable, prior to books, thing called story. ❤ I was going to say, whatever lifestyle changes or nootropics these podcasters are working with, or is it microdosing? Anyway 👍* This is a message from the other end of the spectrum, in terms of every kind of resource except maybe education, and even with my limited operating bandwidth, on this morning in January, I am encouraged and glad voices like this have a platform, are broadcasting a clear, distinct signal among the noise. Keep up the good work. As someone literally working three jobs and being evicted, I find the concept and the hope for an actual UBI to be important. I hope more people like Attilla who are in positions of influence will get on board ASAP. Or maybe it isn't a good solution. I could be wrong.. I guess either way, even if like so many others it is from the living quarters of my van, I will keep listening and learning, happily. There is an idea. How about in defiance of scarcity we see a movement toward the one with the least stuff wins? lol But frankly, that isn't even funny in a world where Sf exists, where I am, and where even as I write this I am getting phone calls from Americore, who want me to pay them over $2000 for the privilege of not paying my debts, in what amounts to predatory financial "services" in my opinion, preying on stressed out people with an offer to "fix" debt. Anyway, I've got to call them and make sure they don't try to mess with my bank. Subbed
4 months after finding Peter’s podcast I’ve lost 25 pounds and have been taking my health way more seriously now. Halfway through the book as well and have learned so much and feel great. Thanks for making this content Peter.
Except the author is wrong. 1/8 of Americans are food insecure and obesity rates are highest among the poor in America, who have less access to food and more stress. Wealthy Americans have lower obesity rates despite having more access to food and less stress in their lives. So more stress less food access = healthier is totally incorrect.
@@rollingrock3480you’re missing his point, no one in America has food insecurity. They likely have food scarcity to good whole foods that don’t put them in a calorie surplus.
Great job! I'm down 28 pounds from 280.6lbs September 24th, 2023 to 252.6lbs yesterday. I'm 6'0 tall and still have another 40 pounds to lose until I'm at my pre-rona weight/prime. Thank you for sharing and keep up the great work!! ♥️💪🙏👏
Thank you Peter!!! When you schedule an interview, you go right to the guest. No BS shilling of supplements or a long unnecessary intro. I also appreciate the time stamps that you pinned in the comments. I listen to a lot content creators and you are one of the few that actually respects your audience. THANK YOU.
I'm so glad Michael made the point about the monks. They believe that prayer and reflection contributes to the common good. We may or may not believe it, but they do derive a sense of purpose.
Two comments: Peter said that if janitors all went on strike, it would greatly impact the world for the worse, but if monks stopped being monks, that wouldn’t impact the world much at all. So if happiness depends on having a sense of purpose, and a sense of purpose depends on engaging in work that benefits others, then why are monks so happy? But they do think they are benefitting the world-through prayer. That is the core of their belief system, that doing God’s will by living a life of service to their brothers and praying for the good of humankind greatly benefits the world. He also said that our will to live is rarely tested in the modern world. Yet suicide rates are rising alarmingly globally, particularly in industrial societies. Many people today too frequently feel their lives are senseless and struggle to maintain a will to live.
Heading into the last portion at 1:42:00 ish is the gold. And yes, the hard men, weak men quote will always be relevant! You absolutely must have purpose to your higher god and to be a strong warrior in this life. Happiness is achieved through doing hard things, being in nature and finding inner peace, that is the key to ultimately having it.
1:50:32 my immediate thought about the monks was that they’re happier because most of their hardships are endured as a result of a choice, not chance. They know why it’s difficult which makes it easier to endure.
Interesting talk. Peter - from a few things you said...I think a 10 day silent retreat would be amazing for you (consider a vipassana type?). It may help your kids too. You speak about "losing your mind" to live as the Benedictine Monks do - well, losing the mind, coming into the heart center where one feels the divine spark & connection to the Universe - THAT, imho, is where happiness comes from. More time in nature also speeds that up. The more educated we get, the harder it is to go within, but I think it is what brings the greatest happiness & clarity as to what our true life purpose is. THX for the great talk - to both of you!! :)
This is an excellent podcast! When you listen to info that addresses common cultural issues yet leaves one feeling empowered and motivated, that’s a valuable gift. Thank you for the dose of balance!
My mom, now 80, describes her childhood as never having tried pizza or potato chips until she was 16. If she was hungry between meals, she was given a banana. Snacks just weren't a thing. And only one or two people in her graduating class would be considered overweight. The food industry has destroyed American bodies in just one generation.
Just an excellent podcast thank you. So many points that were brought up which I agree with and live by for example doing hard stuff everyday, not being too soft, putting down my device everyday for a period of time. Keep up the excellent interviews thank you Dr Attia 💕🙏
No. Dr. Attia. You are not doing anything negative with your kids and the Lego’s! That sounds like wonderful dad/kid time. That time with you is and will forever be precious to them and you. It isn’t an indulgence. You are learning about and enjoying how each other’s brains work. Sounds magical to me and makes me miss my dad. He was great in play. It will stop all too soon as they get older and shift their lives.
What a true LEGO fan, never referring to them as Legos. Didn't think there was anything Dr Attia could do or say to make me respect him more, yet here we are.
To weigh in on Peter’s question as to why there are some people who can sit in front of a plate of cookies, and eat just one, while the rest of the cookies remain on the plate, being their delicious selves for the next hour, I think the concepts of restrained and disinhibited eating are helpful to consider. Restrained eaters, or chronic dieters for example, tend to be more sensitive and responsive to external food stimulus such as the smell of fresh baked cookies, despite what’s going on physiologically within them. Whereas an unrestrained eater, or someone who eats mostly in response to internal food cues of hunger, satisfaction, and fullness, may enjoy a cookie, feel satisfied, and become uninterested in the rest of the cookies, knowing they can enjoy another one, at another time. The fear that this could be the last cookie opportunity for a while, doesn’t cloud their eating experience. I say this based on personal experience and my experience working with people as a dietitian. Thanks for another great interview!
Good stuff! Embracing the mundane. I like a quote from the great Rick Rubin, try to look at familiar things with childlike eyes. The small details we overlook! Peace and love everybody ❤
In a basic sense, my main takeaway was that in order to stop overeating, stop seasoning your food. I think that is a very helpful tip for someone who struggles with binge eating because highly palatable foods lead to overeating. To get highly palatable foods you need lots of fat (oil, butter, ghee, cheese, etc), salt, and heat (ie, crispy edges and charred veggies which determines the texture) and acid (lemon, vinegar, etc). These are the basics of cooking. Following those cooking principles, unless you’re very careful about portion sizes, it will lead to overconsumption. This changes my perspective because I previously thought of highly palatable foods as things like cookies and ice cream, but now I realize that even something like broccoli can become highly palatable and easy to overeat if drenched in garlic butter 🤣.
At 1:04, when they were talking about Amazon, they missed a real thing. In Canada, I have to drive two hours to the city to shop. The prices are considerably higher at the stores than at Amazon. When I price compare, I chose the more economical choice because everything else has risen so high that my finances can’t keep up. If I find the price is the same, I buy at the physical store. If it’s higher, I go home and order it on Amazon if it’s a thing I truly need. I might have to wait for a week but I don’t have to pay for gas or waste four hours driving time.
For me; the more I get disregulated the more I am susceptible (especially food and Social media). The latter produces more disregulation, so does stress, my survival reaction on some psychological issues etc. What does help regulating are: no phone, walking, sports, discipline, being alone for a while, having a good conversation etc. Some behaviours (most addictions) seem to have a regulatory effect but are highly disregulating in the aftermath or even during.
I’ve started the carnivore diet this month. Been keeping my calories the same. 2000k a day. I’ve been tracking for a year now. My macros now are 50/50 protein to fat. I average 150g of each. Been dropping weight slowly. Down 3lb since the 1st of January. I love this way of eating. I feel full, satisfied and well nourished. Before, my diet was clean, but I was heavy on the veggies and, I’ll admit, I love my artificial sweeteners. My macros before we’re closer to 140g protein, 100-150g carbs, 40-50g healthy fat with Omega 3 being higher than omega 6. Pretty clean, but I suffered from gas and bloating and discomfort most evenings. I don’t get that with the carnivore diet. I’m loving it. I will slowly add simple fruit and veg in February to see what triggers my discomfort, but for now, this feeling of fullness w/o going weight is making me happy. I don’t need to lose weight. I’m 5-8 136lb. Very lean (Pilates and yoga gal) so I’ll need to up my calories so I don’t drop any more weight. Something I wouldn’t dare do before. Interesting.
Glad to hear the discussion about solitude. My only small criticism of someone like Arthur Brooks is that he almost over emphasizes the importance of being with other people. Don't get me wrong, I believe human connection is extremely important for our well-being. But Brooks sometimes makes you think doing ANYTHING alone is suspect or less than positive.
Happiness is literally unattainable because the mind can never be satisfied. The saying the grass is greener on the other side is the creed by which the mind operates. No matter how good things apparently seem, the mind will always want different or more
I didn't notice any mention of the reason fentanyl is added to drugs, it is a dependence potentiator. People doing coke that then feel terrible the next day do more of thing that relieves that. This directly contributes to new heroin/fentanyl users. Thus more deaths of despair.
I think you meant to say "hard times make strong men, strong men make good times". Of course when I'm looking for good times, I look for hard men, but I don't think that's what you were suggesting...
1:32:40 I love this one, it's the same with economic models and other nonsense predictions which have lower success rates than a coin toss based one. Unfortunately neither policymakers nor academics (not to mention the public) are quant mathematicians so we're doomed to keep repeating this failure on a monumental level
consuming more obviously applies to america who are using up resources, other regions could not consume as they dont have the means or are busy been plundered
Hi, I would like to say that as Michael described right at the beginning that hoarding the staff we eat "usually" - the processed food, was the point of mental crisis elevation in the society. Why? Because we just do not want to accept publicly that most of processed food consumption causing overall the riseing number of health issues {cardiovascular, cancer, autoimmun, mental, overweight, etc.} for decades. There is already the underlying evidence for this - we can look around and see in our close suurounding too. Most of us just keeping alive this vicious cycle of overeating {but not the right stuff, in the right proportion} and hope that the nurses, pharmacies, doctors, specialists or God will save us from our own unconcious mind immersed in the fear of the fear.
Fyi, the reason Instagram is better at predicting your behavior is because they are at least listening to your conversations and probably watching too.
Hi Peter and Michael - thanks, very informative, again. Re: Alcohol. Have you heard of the Sinclair Method? Blocking opioid receptors with Naltrexone taken an hour before drinking resulted in a 75% (approx) success rate in a study. Where as AA/abstinence has about a 85% failure rate. However, if the alcohol-lovers resume drinking without taking naltrexone, they can resume problem drinking. I think that points to a biochemical/reward pathway. Same with sugar isn't it i.e. opioid reward ? Some folk just get on the blood sugar/insulin roller coaster and end-up craving, getting "hangry", eating more. I was like that - head-drooping drowsiness and craving by 9:00 AM. Keto stopped that in two weeks. In our evolutionary environment (by which I mean grassy savannah not rainforest), foods with lots of sugar are the same ones that ferment and produce alcohol........ could be a connection(?)
Agreed. Change the environment first before you change your habit. Why getting alone is hard? Becoz you dont know yourself yet. Radical self love. Deprive yourself from things so you can appreciate them.
My active lifestyle, like training Jiu Jitsu, keeps me accountable for adhering to healthy habits. Plus, I educate myself by reading and watching podcasts like this one. As for “Happiness,” what about how Gallup measures it? Perhaps, a future podcast? 🤔
Picky eaters among kids are on the rise too, not just obesity, but no one talks about it. I know how to solve it, I had that issue with my kiddo. If you are interested just let me know
The Monks are happy because they are in a close relationship with God. I know that sounds odd to you, but I do believe there is a purpose to their many, many prayers and the world might very well suffer if they went away.
@@ananavarrete7218 that's okay. We all have differences in opinion. My comment is not on a sexual note as we both are male. It might be different for you as you, I assume are a female?
Dr. Attia seems to be a bit limited in his ability to understand spiritual value. He can't see the value of prayer or the value of the monk's work. It comes across as a bleak mindset. He does not even see why they are happier than most. I wonder why he is so limited in this way. Interesting to me, he nearly always seems unhappy and abrasive.
Interesting observation. He's truly a science geek and looks for objectivity in most things. Could he shift? Only if he wanted to and he gained value in it. Just my observation. He is a great interviewer and dissects such important content we need and can benefit from.
@@kelseyloushin1343 Yes. He has a real talent and I appreciate his work. This was a separate observation and not a judgement on him in general or all of his work. Maybe he'll grow and expand what he sees value in. I hope he's not as unhappy as he comes across to me.
Oh no! I am surprised and disappointed that you do not know that a calorie is NOT “a calorie!” Different foods are metabolized differently! As a doctor who specializes in nutrition, this is an important set of facts to be familiar with. (Dr Robert Lustig’s lectures can help those who want to educate themselves.)
I am that person who can sit in front of cookies or cake. I might try a small bite but I won't eat. You need to work on your taste buds, emotions etc, interested how you can do the same?
Dr.Peter- God is the element that is missing. Happiness and joy come from God. You don't have to have these specific times to pray. It's only communication; On the other hand- I love your channel and I love your content.
in my opinion.... happiness for guys is a totally different story than happiness for girls... for girls all they have to do is love themselves ...for guys this tends to emasculate them immediately... i think girls are wired to find happiness within themselves and men are meant to find it out in the world, by doing, acquiring, accomplishing, striving, providing.... but girls dont find their feminine nature in doing any of these things... girls have to feel free and loveable. guys have to feel driven and mentored, and even told how they arent good enuf and have to improve ... thats why when guys talk about being happy or unhappy i never can relate lol...
Why are we interviewing this guy? He's not particularly experience, knowledgable, or educated in anything. He's just a writer that wrote a forgettable airplane read.
I was wildly disappointed with this book specifically because the test he uses is ad lib eating. It’s not a revelation that calorically dense, high calorie foods will induce us to eat more calories, but the suggestion that we should massively change our personal food environment as a solution is without a doubt the dumbest, most failure-likely way to attempt to counteract this. Count your calories and macros. It’s easier than ever. You can mostly scan barcodes. Then you can choose your indulgences and not completely change (and vastly increase the cost of) your local food environment, which has financial costs, time costs, hedonic costs, and social costs. Just measure your intake!
*The wisest thought that is in everyone's minds today is to invest in different income flows that do not depend on the government, especially with the current economic crisis around the world. This is still a good time to invest in gold, silver and digital currencies (BTC, ETH.... stock,silver and gold)*
Stopped at 17min.. gonna finish it another time... to me the point of nutrition is plain simple and it's actually like loads of people are actually saying and Peter's saying also.. just don't eat processed stuff and you're good to go, and focus on the other aspects. Like the tribe described in here.. they're saying.. their habits are against all diet advices, right? That's actually not true.. if they're eating loads of meat, fish, non processed carbs and veggies.. Well to me that looks like a high carb, low fat diet with high protein in the mix. Point is if you avoid all oils and butters and cheeses, sure you're not gonna have high cholesterol.. is it applicable to the western world where we are bombarded everywhere with junk foods and takeaways? They can do it just because they're hours away from civility.. the guy's saying the other tribe ,which is closer to the town, is getting oil to fry their foods.... enough said.. So this is not helping me much, really.. I'm on a high carb low fat diet right now.. eating eggs, beef, macadamia nuts and fruits. No veggies at all apart of nutritional yeast flakes (veggy?). I feel just fine.. a bit tired maybe low in something.. but point is better this and being hungry all the time and not eating much just because I can't while working (6hours no break) and struggling over the weekend, or going back to keto and have my hunger suppressed but in need of statins or being very careful on the type of fats? Dunno which is best.. back to keto soon just because of the mental clarity it gives me really.. and maybe checking my ldl/apob and looking where they go
You guys probably won't like this but there is a way to not eat the cookie that's in front of you and that's called keto. I know dr Attia was on keto for years so I'm a little surprised he didn't mention this: after the adaptation, when you're so low on carbs, you just STOP having cravings. I've lost 40kg on low carb but only after I went full keto 4 months ago my cravings stopped all together. No discipline needed after I eat fat, protein and veggies. And believe me, I loved snacks more than p*rn lol.
Too bad for this author that 1/8 Americans were food insecure in 2022, and obesity rates are higher among the food-insecure, more stressed-out lower classes -- and lower among the wealthy who have more access to food and less stress.
In today's episode, we discuss:
0:00:47 - Inspiration for Michael’s latest book, Scarcity Brain
0:02:45 - Evolutionary adaptations to the scarcity of food contrasted with the modern obesity crisis
0:09:22 - Lessons learned about diet and nutrition from living with hunter-gatherers
0:21:29 - The impact of ultra-processed foods on energy balance
0:29:33 - Michael’s experience with attempting the hunter-gatherer diet at home
0:36:22 - The roots of excess: factors that contribute to overeating and the varied vulnerabilities among individuals
0:42:53 - The scarcity loop: how components of the scarcity loop are illustrated in gambling and addiction
0:55:05 - Using knowledge of the scarcity loop to break the cycle
1:03:09 - The evolutionary drive to acquire material possessions
1:12:56 - The benefits of boredom and value of exploration
1:23:27 - The consequences of an attention economy driven by negativity bias
1:30:38 - Navigating the world of endless information and the value in “slow information”
1:41:57 - Defining happiness, and the downward trend in reports of happiness
1:48:06 - Purpose, austerity, self-reliance and other missing elements of happiness gleaned from the study of monks
2:00:12 - The value in uncomfortable activities that increase your awareness, presence, and will to live
Thank you
Have known, or known of, Dr. Attilla for awhile, mostly from podcast soundbites. Just saw the longevity graph, taught in measured tones on an old school blackboard in a somewhat dim, maybe modern?, setting, and the aesthetic very much clicked. In a very opposite of "click-bait" way actually.
And then I just heard something that sealed the deal for me.
At 3:16 I love the awareness of his, understandable, bias toward a biological leap as being paramount in human evolution. The evidence is tangible and he is a thinking man I sense, so the theory seems 100% legit:, energy conservation, which has solid, literal validity. But it sounds to me like he opened his mind to a different narrative so to speak, by seeing the real power and impact of an unseen and untouchable, prior to books, thing called story. ❤
I was going to say, whatever lifestyle changes or nootropics these podcasters are working with, or is it microdosing? Anyway 👍* This is a message from the other end of the spectrum, in terms of every kind of resource except maybe education, and even with my limited operating bandwidth, on this morning in January, I am encouraged and glad voices like this have a platform, are broadcasting a clear, distinct signal among the noise.
Keep up the good work. As someone literally working three jobs and being evicted, I find the concept and the hope for an actual UBI to be important. I hope more people like Attilla who are in positions of influence will get on board ASAP. Or maybe it isn't a good solution. I could be wrong.. I guess either way, even if like so many others it is from the living quarters of my van, I will keep listening and learning, happily. There is an idea. How about in defiance of scarcity we see a movement toward the one with the least stuff wins? lol
But frankly, that isn't even funny in a world where Sf exists, where I am, and where even as I write this I am getting phone calls from Americore, who want me to pay them over $2000 for the privilege of not paying my debts, in what amounts to predatory financial "services" in my opinion, preying on stressed out people with an offer to "fix" debt. Anyway, I've got to call them and make sure they don't try to mess with my bank.
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4 months after finding Peter’s podcast I’ve lost 25 pounds and have been taking my health way more seriously now. Halfway through the book as well and have learned so much and feel great. Thanks for making this content Peter.
That is so awesome! 👍
Except the author is wrong. 1/8 of Americans are food insecure and obesity rates are highest among the poor in America, who have less access to food and more stress. Wealthy Americans have lower obesity rates despite having more access to food and less stress in their lives. So more stress less food access = healthier is totally incorrect.
@@rollingrock3480you’re missing his point, no one in America has food insecurity. They likely have food scarcity to good whole foods that don’t put them in a calorie surplus.
Great job! I'm down 28 pounds from 280.6lbs September 24th, 2023 to 252.6lbs yesterday.
I'm 6'0 tall and still have another 40 pounds to lose until I'm at my pre-rona weight/prime.
Thank you for sharing and keep up the great work!! ♥️💪🙏👏
@@OckyAsFUCKsome don't classify ultra processed foods as food at all, aka industrially manyfactured edible substances.
Thank you Peter!!! When you schedule an interview, you go right to the guest. No BS shilling of supplements or a long unnecessary intro. I also appreciate the time stamps that you pinned in the comments. I listen to a lot content creators and you are one of the few that actually respects your audience. THANK YOU.
I'm so glad Michael made the point about the monks. They believe that prayer and reflection contributes to the common good. We may or may not believe it, but they do derive a sense of purpose.
Two comments: Peter said that if janitors all went on strike, it would greatly impact the world for the worse, but if monks stopped being monks, that wouldn’t impact the world much at all. So if happiness depends on having a sense of purpose, and a sense of purpose depends on engaging in work that benefits others, then why are monks so happy? But they do think they are benefitting the world-through prayer. That is the core of their belief system, that doing God’s will by living a life of service to their brothers and praying for the good of humankind greatly benefits the world.
He also said that our will to live is rarely tested in the modern world. Yet suicide rates are rising alarmingly globally, particularly in industrial societies. Many people today too frequently feel their lives are senseless and struggle to maintain a will to live.
Heading into the last portion at 1:42:00 ish is the gold. And yes, the hard men, weak men quote will always be relevant! You absolutely must have purpose to your higher god and to be a strong warrior in this life. Happiness is achieved through doing hard things, being in nature and finding inner peace, that is the key to ultimately having it.
Love listening to 2 of my favorite authors having a long chat!
1:50:32 my immediate thought about the monks was that they’re happier because most of their hardships are endured as a result of a choice, not chance. They know why it’s difficult which makes it easier to endure.
Interesting talk. Peter - from a few things you said...I think a 10 day silent retreat would be amazing for you (consider a vipassana type?). It may help your kids too. You speak about "losing your mind" to live as the Benedictine Monks do - well, losing the mind, coming into the heart center where one feels the divine spark & connection to the Universe - THAT, imho, is where happiness comes from. More time in nature also speeds that up. The more educated we get, the harder it is to go within, but I think it is what brings the greatest happiness & clarity as to what our true life purpose is. THX for the great talk - to both of you!! :)
Hi Jane... Fancy meeting you here!😁
This is an excellent podcast! When you listen to info that addresses common cultural issues yet leaves one feeling empowered and motivated, that’s a valuable gift. Thank you for the dose of balance!
LOVED Scarcity Brain!...(and Comfort Crisis!!)...and (Outlive!!!). And I found GREAT VALUE in this this conversation! Thank you Michael and Peter!
My mom, now 80, describes her childhood as never having tried pizza or potato chips until she was 16. If she was hungry between meals, she was given a banana. Snacks just weren't a thing. And only one or two people in her graduating class would be considered overweight.
The food industry has destroyed American bodies in just one generation.
Both of Michael’s books are phenomenal, just like podcast conversations like this. Thank you, gentlemen!
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of....???
So many good questions to ponder...amazing, thought-provoking discussion!
i could sit and talk with these two all day about a host of topics
Wonderful session, thank you for the interview and highlighting the book and research❤
I think it’s great that Peter was able to interview Ray Romano’s voice on this episode.
Just an excellent podcast thank you. So many points that were brought up which I agree with and live by for example doing hard stuff everyday, not being too soft, putting down my device everyday for a period of time. Keep up the excellent interviews thank you Dr Attia 💕🙏
No. Dr. Attia. You are not doing anything negative with your kids and the Lego’s! That sounds like wonderful dad/kid time. That time with you is and will forever be precious to them and you. It isn’t an indulgence. You are learning about and enjoying how each other’s brains work. Sounds magical to me and makes me miss my dad. He was great in play. It will stop all too soon as they get older and shift their lives.
This is one podcast that I thoroughly enjoyed! Thank you, Peter and Michael.
What a true LEGO fan, never referring to them as Legos. Didn't think there was anything Dr Attia could do or say to make me respect him more, yet here we are.
To weigh in on Peter’s question as to why there are some people who can sit in front of a plate of cookies, and eat just one, while the rest of the cookies remain on the plate, being their delicious selves for the next hour, I think the concepts of restrained and disinhibited eating are helpful to consider. Restrained eaters, or chronic dieters for example, tend to be more sensitive and responsive to external food stimulus such as the smell of fresh baked cookies, despite what’s going on physiologically within them. Whereas an unrestrained eater, or someone who eats mostly in response to internal food cues of hunger, satisfaction, and fullness, may enjoy a cookie, feel satisfied, and become uninterested in the rest of the cookies, knowing they can enjoy another one, at another time. The fear that this could be the last cookie opportunity for a while, doesn’t cloud their eating experience. I say this based on personal experience and my experience working with people as a dietitian. Thanks for another great interview!
Good stuff! Embracing the mundane. I like a quote from the great Rick Rubin, try to look at familiar things with childlike eyes. The small details we overlook! Peace and love everybody ❤
Loved it. Thank you!
Excellent episode. I learned a ton from two experts I trust about an array of topics.
In a basic sense, my main takeaway was that in order to stop overeating, stop seasoning your food. I think that is a very helpful tip for someone who struggles with binge eating because highly palatable foods lead to overeating. To get highly palatable foods you need lots of fat (oil, butter, ghee, cheese, etc), salt, and heat (ie, crispy edges and charred veggies which determines the texture) and acid (lemon, vinegar, etc). These are the basics of cooking. Following those cooking principles, unless you’re very careful about portion sizes, it will lead to overconsumption. This changes my perspective because I previously thought of highly palatable foods as things like cookies and ice cream, but now I realize that even something like broccoli can become highly palatable and easy to overeat if drenched in garlic butter 🤣.
Sure, but the problem is the butter, not the broccoli, lol. I'd argue seasoning your vegetables is better, because you'll want to eat them more often.
@@BrofUJu Yes, that is another way to look at it.
At 1:04, when they were talking about Amazon, they missed a real thing. In Canada, I have to drive two hours to the city to shop. The prices are considerably higher at the stores than at Amazon. When I price compare, I chose the more economical choice because everything else has risen so high that my finances can’t keep up. If I find the price is the same, I buy at the physical store. If it’s higher, I go home and order it on Amazon if it’s a thing I truly need. I might have to wait for a week but I don’t have to pay for gas or waste four hours driving time.
As we become older, we face the scarcity of time ! This scarcity of time drives a lot of human behavior. It is no longer the scarcity of food !
You’re absolutely right. I’m coming up on 50 years old. And you come to the realization that you have why less time
@@deanschanzenbach7506Try being 82, scary.🤔
@@Helen-nv8el I pray I see 82.
@@deanschanzenbach7506 Just enjoy every moment you are here
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Fantastic interview! Thank you.
For me; the more I get disregulated the more I am susceptible (especially food and Social media). The latter produces more disregulation, so does stress, my survival reaction on some psychological issues etc. What does help regulating are: no phone, walking, sports, discipline, being alone for a while, having a good conversation etc. Some behaviours (most addictions) seem to have a regulatory effect but are highly disregulating in the aftermath or even during.
Great podcast, thanks
I’ve started the carnivore diet this month. Been keeping my calories the same. 2000k a day. I’ve been tracking for a year now. My macros now are 50/50 protein to fat. I average 150g of each. Been dropping weight slowly. Down 3lb since the 1st of January. I love this way of eating. I feel full, satisfied and well nourished. Before, my diet was clean, but I was heavy on the veggies and, I’ll admit, I love my artificial sweeteners. My macros before we’re closer to 140g protein, 100-150g carbs, 40-50g healthy fat with Omega 3 being higher than omega 6. Pretty clean, but I suffered from gas and bloating and discomfort most evenings. I don’t get that with the carnivore diet. I’m loving it. I will slowly add simple fruit and veg in February to see what triggers my discomfort, but for now, this feeling of fullness w/o going weight is making me happy. I don’t need to lose weight. I’m 5-8 136lb. Very lean (Pilates and yoga gal) so I’ll need to up my calories so I don’t drop any more weight. Something I wouldn’t dare do before. Interesting.
Lift weights
Do you use any apps to track your food intake?
@@emre317Mc Cronometer is my favorite
They also live a life that causes no harm to others which is of great benefit for the world.
Glad to hear the discussion about solitude. My only small criticism of someone like Arthur Brooks is that he almost over emphasizes the importance of being with other people. Don't get me wrong, I believe human connection is extremely important for our well-being. But Brooks sometimes makes you think doing ANYTHING alone is suspect or less than positive.
Thank you for this talk 👏🏻💙🙌🏻
Happiness is literally unattainable because the mind can never be satisfied. The saying the grass is greener on the other side is the creed by which the mind operates. No matter how good things apparently seem, the mind will always want different or more
childhood trauma plays a major role in addiction
I didn’t know Trent Reznor was so well versed in the science of addiction
I didn't notice any mention of the reason fentanyl is added to drugs, it is a dependence potentiator. People doing coke that then feel terrible the next day do more of thing that relieves that. This directly contributes to new heroin/fentanyl users. Thus more deaths of despair.
I think you meant to say "hard times make strong men, strong men make good times". Of course when I'm looking for good times, I look for hard men, but I don't think that's what you were suggesting...
Gabor Mate should join you guys here and talk about addiction and childhood trauma
The diet described sounds like a literal "whole foods" diet.
Time spent in solitude is not necessarily to get to know yourself but to get to no self
Nobody thought to ask whether people who become Benedictine monks might have a higher propensity for happiness, rather than the other way around?
1:32:40 I love this one, it's the same with economic models and other nonsense predictions which have lower success rates than a coin toss based one. Unfortunately neither policymakers nor academics (not to mention the public) are quant mathematicians so we're doomed to keep repeating this failure on a monumental level
As a former meth addict, had I not gotten clean when I did, i would for SURE be dead from accidental fentanyl overdose by now.
consuming more obviously applies to america who are using up resources, other regions could not consume as they dont have the means or are busy been plundered
Boredom can spur a lot of creativity - in all sorts of areas.
Hi,
I would like to say that as Michael described right at the beginning that hoarding the staff we eat "usually" - the processed food, was the point of mental crisis elevation in the society. Why? Because we just do not want to accept publicly that most of processed food consumption causing overall the riseing number of health issues {cardiovascular, cancer, autoimmun, mental, overweight, etc.} for decades. There is already the underlying evidence for this - we can look around and see in our close suurounding too. Most of us just keeping alive this vicious cycle of overeating {but not the right stuff, in the right proportion} and hope that the nurses, pharmacies, doctors, specialists or God will save us from our own unconcious mind immersed in the fear of the fear.
We are Biocomputers and are life programing is who we are and how we react!
Fyi, the reason Instagram is better at predicting your behavior is because they are at least listening to your conversations and probably watching too.
why would you not put the name of the guest in the title of the video
Hi Peter and Michael - thanks, very informative, again.
Re: Alcohol. Have you heard of the Sinclair Method? Blocking opioid receptors with Naltrexone taken an hour before drinking resulted in a 75% (approx) success rate in a study. Where as AA/abstinence has about a 85% failure rate. However, if the alcohol-lovers resume drinking without taking naltrexone, they can resume problem drinking. I think that points to a biochemical/reward pathway.
Same with sugar isn't it i.e. opioid reward ? Some folk just get on the blood sugar/insulin roller coaster and end-up craving, getting "hangry", eating more. I was like that - head-drooping drowsiness and craving by 9:00 AM. Keto stopped that in two weeks.
In our evolutionary environment (by which I mean grassy savannah not rainforest), foods with lots of sugar are the same ones that ferment and produce alcohol........ could be a connection(?)
Agreed. Change the environment first before you change your habit.
Why getting alone is hard? Becoz you dont know yourself yet. Radical self love. Deprive yourself from things so you can appreciate them.
Neanderthals lived most of their lives in the ice ages, perhaps surviving the cold may have taken precendence to "exploration" ... just a thought
Monks are happier because they know God
Surprisingly amazon is still cheaper for things like bio gaia.
I instantly recognized his voice from The Comfort Crisis audiobook lol
My active lifestyle, like training Jiu Jitsu, keeps me accountable for adhering to healthy habits. Plus, I educate myself by reading and watching podcasts like this one. As for “Happiness,” what about how Gallup measures it? Perhaps, a future podcast? 🤔
It's hard being sentient creature.
Picky eaters among kids are on the rise too, not just obesity, but no one talks about it. I know how to solve it, I had that issue with my kiddo. If you are interested just let me know
I wish the doctor had on a shirt
The Monks are happy because they are in a close relationship with God. I know that sounds odd to you, but I do believe there is a purpose to their many, many prayers and the world might very well suffer if they went away.
Look into the work of MD Gabor Mate if addiction is an important topic to you.
How do they measure happiness?
Michael is so damn handsome!!
Maybe he should share tips on his male beauty secrets for us new kids on the block.
I think He is very bright !!to my taste he is average on the male appealing!!!!
@@ananavarrete7218 that's okay. We all have differences in opinion.
My comment is not on a sexual note as we both are male.
It might be different for you as you, I assume are a female?
Thank you for been so polite!!!❤
Conspiracy theories also arise from a lack of trust in the 'experts'.
Dr. Attia seems to be a bit limited in his ability to understand spiritual value. He can't see the value of prayer or the value of the monk's work. It comes across as a bleak mindset. He does not even see why they are happier than most. I wonder why he is so limited in this way. Interesting to me, he nearly always seems unhappy and abrasive.
Interesting observation. He's truly a science geek and looks for objectivity in most things. Could he shift? Only if he wanted to and he gained value in it. Just my observation. He is a great interviewer and dissects such important content we need and can benefit from.
@@kelseyloushin1343 Yes. He has a real talent and I appreciate his work. This was a separate observation and not a judgement on him in general or all of his work. Maybe he'll grow and expand what he sees value in. I hope he's not as unhappy as he comes across to me.
Get a life
Oh no! I am surprised and disappointed that you do not know that a calorie is NOT “a calorie!” Different foods are metabolized differently! As a doctor who specializes in nutrition, this is an important set of facts to be familiar with. (Dr Robert Lustig’s lectures can help those who want to educate themselves.)
Great interview. Peter is definitely right the JFK assassination -one gun, three shots. One gunman.
- so how does unsalted fish taste?
- like unsalted fish
- interesting
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It's not the diet with no name.
It's original paleo.
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I am that person who can sit in front of cookies or cake. I might try a small bite but I won't eat. You need to work on your taste buds, emotions etc, interested how you can do the same?
Dr.Peter- God is the element that is missing. Happiness and joy come from God. You don't have to have these specific times to pray. It's only communication; On the other hand- I love your channel and I love your content.
The audio track has some really bad artefacts.
Thank you Peter for correctly pronouncing fentanyl instead of fentanol like everyone else in the world. Sorry, pet peeve.
in my opinion.... happiness for guys is a totally different story than happiness for girls... for girls all they have to do is love themselves ...for guys this tends to emasculate them immediately... i think girls are wired to find happiness within themselves and men are meant to find it out in the world, by doing, acquiring, accomplishing, striving, providing.... but girls dont find their feminine nature in doing any of these things...
girls have to feel free and loveable. guys have to feel driven and mentored, and even told how they arent good enuf and have to improve ... thats why when guys talk about being happy or unhappy i never can relate lol...
Why are we interviewing this guy? He's not particularly experience, knowledgable, or educated in anything. He's just a writer that wrote a forgettable airplane read.
I was wildly disappointed with this book specifically because the test he uses is ad lib eating. It’s not a revelation that calorically dense, high calorie foods will induce us to eat more calories, but the suggestion that we should massively change our personal food environment as a solution is without a doubt the dumbest, most failure-likely way to attempt to counteract this.
Count your calories and macros. It’s easier than ever. You can mostly scan barcodes. Then you can choose your indulgences and not completely change (and vastly increase the cost of) your local food environment, which has financial costs, time costs, hedonic costs, and social costs.
Just measure your intake!
Peter why do you always feel the need to interrupt the person your interviewing. I love your content but sometimes your so freaking annoying.
*The wisest thought that is in everyone's minds today is to invest in different income flows that do not depend on the government, especially with the current economic crisis around the world. This is still a good time to invest in gold, silver and digital currencies (BTC, ETH.... stock,silver and gold)*
Scam bots
The American economy is not all the gloom and doom that right wing media keeps pushing. The conspiracy stuff is drowning out the truth.
Stopped at 17min.. gonna finish it another time... to me the point of nutrition is plain simple and it's actually like loads of people are actually saying and Peter's saying also.. just don't eat processed stuff and you're good to go, and focus on the other aspects. Like the tribe described in here.. they're saying.. their habits are against all diet advices, right? That's actually not true.. if they're eating loads of meat, fish, non processed carbs and veggies.. Well to me that looks like a high carb, low fat diet with high protein in the mix. Point is if you avoid all oils and butters and cheeses, sure you're not gonna have high cholesterol.. is it applicable to the western world where we are bombarded everywhere with junk foods and takeaways? They can do it just because they're hours away from civility.. the guy's saying the other tribe ,which is closer to the town, is getting oil to fry their foods.... enough said..
So this is not helping me much, really.. I'm on a high carb low fat diet right now.. eating eggs, beef, macadamia nuts and fruits. No veggies at all apart of nutritional yeast flakes (veggy?). I feel just fine.. a bit tired maybe low in something.. but point is better this and being hungry all the time and not eating much just because I can't while working (6hours no break) and struggling over the weekend, or going back to keto and have my hunger suppressed but in need of statins or being very careful on the type of fats? Dunno which is best.. back to keto soon just because of the mental clarity it gives me really.. and maybe checking my ldl/apob and looking where they go
Not everyone has access to top shelf smack and blow. I don't fuck with coke anymore for that very reason. Tired of getting shit that isn't even good
You guys probably won't like this but there is a way to not eat the cookie that's in front of you and that's called keto. I know dr Attia was on keto for years so I'm a little surprised he didn't mention this: after the adaptation, when you're so low on carbs, you just STOP having cravings. I've lost 40kg on low carb but only after I went full keto 4 months ago my cravings stopped all together. No discipline needed after I eat fat, protein and veggies. And believe me, I loved snacks more than p*rn lol.
You've got to be kidding me!....A diet coke!
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sigh - are you 5 years old?
Too bad for this author that 1/8 Americans were food insecure in 2022, and obesity rates are higher among the food-insecure, more stressed-out lower classes -- and lower among the wealthy who have more access to food and less stress.
I agree. Swing and MISS for sure 🤦♀️