@@ht8083 Andrew might have more insight but I have a softish cricket ball i stand on that gives me huge relief. I just move it around and use it to flex my foot in all different ways.
@@AndrewFoltswhat vibram shoe would you suggest for only indoor exercise and treadmill running? I am currently running on xero hfs. Would the elx knit be ok?
In retirement, I’ve adopted the “zero drop, wide toe box” philosophy. I’m approaching three years into a complete transition to ZD shoes. The “five finger” approach I’ve adopted for backpacking, in socks only….I really like Injini socks. Shoes? Not so much….but, watching your light-hearted video, is making me rethink that! Bravo-Zulu, amigo…great video….well done!
Totally relatable, ha! The V-Trek's ended up in the closet when I first started barefoot running, but then I started using them more and more, until now where I use them almost exclusively (except in winter).
I was forced to go on a 6 mile hike in my VFF when I forgot my boots. It was over all types of terrain: dirt, concrete, sand, rocks, forest litter. My felt amazing afterwards; not tired at all. It took some getting use to, just becoming aware of your foot feetplacement
Yes to the toe arguments. I started my minimalist shoe journey with VFFs in 2006, and after trying various brands and styles, I recently completely came back to FiveFingers. The plus in freedom and feel is just so fun and rewarding. Personally, I try to avoid laces, and always looking for the most minimal offerings. Therefore my favorite pairs of all time are EL-X for sports, and CVT LB for everything else. Successfully ignoring that winter is coming. I seriously wish Vibram would release a true winter FF, withstanding cold, snow and water. Great and charming video! Cheers!
Never thought of that, but yea, slip-ins would definitely speed up the toe shoe putting-on process. Have some slip-ins from Vivo, and they're great. Ditto on winter. Winter-proof Vibram's would be the ultimate holiday present. Sigh...
I received them just 3 days ago and I fell in love instantly. Most fun shoes I’ve purchased. I have other barefoot shoes as well, amongst them vivo magna forest… no comparison 😍 Your video helped me a lot to make my decision. 🙏🏼
I've tried hiking in boots a few times since switching to V-Treks, and found myself slipping or twisting my ankle so much in them. I truly value the "ground feel" I get from my vibrams for balance and control. Great video, Andrew!
I really appreciate those little bite paper pieces with "Fit"/"Part four..." It's a great idea. And about barefoot shoes, I made six pairs of my own boots, so I know how great they can be. Keep going and let those tiny papers in your videos.
weird comment maybe but I super love your production style!! the review is great but tbh I really like how you do the tilting and how your storytelling is quite laid back!!!
Thanks for this review. Your review is one of the reasons I ended up trying the V Trek and now they are my go-to shoe. The only time I don’t wear them is when I need a safety toe or a dress shoe. To address the water absorption: I found that a layer of beeswax based leather protectant can help it be more water resistant. Still not waterproof by any means, but it’ll help with a brief splash. Just don’t go too heavy or it ruins the breathability of the mesh.
Very true about Vibram FiveFingers. I used both vivobarefoot and five fingers and after years of trying both brands I tend to gravitate more towards the Vibram five fingers. I always had the best walking/running experience.
@@jean-pierrewuestenberghs It's not waterproof, which basically makes it useless. Plus the insulation is synthetic, which offers poor breathability, so I'd rather just wear a couple pairs of Injinji wool socks with the V-Trek's and use something else for wet conditions.
I too have the same shoe, it's a great shoe and I agree with everything you said here. Although mine seems to have some kind of extra cushioning for the arch. The bottom reads "arch protection" or something to that effect, it's just a bit thicker at that point and it can prevent a badly placed rock or root from doing damage. The video reminded me of the "slush problem", I wish it weren't a thing. The feeling of the shoes sucking in cold water is so annoying I chose to get another model and now I use both depending on the day and weather.
Did one of the other models work better for slush? Arch cushion definitely feels nice and doesn't interfere with flexibility or sensitivity, which is always a plus.
@@AndrewFolts I currently have the Merrell Move Glove as my second shoe. It's not got the same amount of feel as the v-trek but being a more conventional shoe it's more resistant to water. Some say it's good to alternate shoes when running to get more variety and possibly reduce one's injury risk, but seeing as all shoes are minimal I'm not sure how much benefit I will get 🙂 I think you had a video on the Merrell Vapor Glove, that's my walking shoe and I occasionally run in it too. All of these are great shoes!
I think I'm sold and I haven't even finished watching. Thank you. Been increasingly aware of the need for even greater toe freedom since I first went to barefoot shoes. Even my wide Softstar Sawyers, probably the widest shoes in the world, could do with at least a couple more millimetres.
Yea, I heard Softars were nice and roomy. Can't beat the separate toes, tho. My feet are narrow from soccer shoes, and they stretch my toes out a bit, which feels great.
@@AndrewFolts I have a little theory that a lot of people need more width and toe stretching than they realise even when they go barefoot. It would take some work to prove this, but here's my logic so far: despite my wide caveman feet, as someone puts it elsewhere here, I wore regular sneakers for decades without realising they were way too narrow for me. I only switched when I started getting chronic pain and the doctor offered no help. Then I did a little mindfulness excercise about my feet, finally noticed they were being pinched by my Pumas, and went and bought my first barefoot shoes, a pair of Vivos. It took care of the pain, but there was still some discomfort because they still weren't wide enough to let my toes splay. The point is, as I say, I'd worn Adidas, Puma and New Balance forever without noticing the constriction. If I'd switched before I started getting pain, all I would have noticed was how wonderfully roomy the Vivos were by comparison - without even realising that I still needed more space to let my poor constricted feet really spread out and for the toes to become strong and active in my walking and running. The Softstars have really been great in helping me understand this. Before them, I was focused on getting more space for my little toes, and thought shoes were fine as long as my big toes weren't forced inwards. The wide Softstars go further, allowing the big toes to really splay away from the other toes and follow the line of the metatarsals - at least on a wide, fan-shaped foot like mine. I know I'm going on a bit, but I'm sort of obsessed because this big toe splay capacity seems to have finally corrected my gait, getting rid of knee pain, hip twinges and lower back soreness, and making the whole business of walking such a pleasure.
@@JohnMoseley I reckon your theory is totally spot on. No one realised how much their feet are squished in normal shoes & they think their (now) deformed feet is how they’re supposed to be. I too have wide feet and I try to wear my VVF every time possible when I have to wear shoes except for occasions out to a bar or pub etc, which is when I’ll wear my one of my vivo’s which are foot shaped but still only”just” wide enough, but miles better than a standard shoe.
You get a comment and a like for how short and concise your video was, you could get the same amount of info from a lot of ten minute videos. Keep it up👍
Right? I was coming back from a hike a few weeks ago and it hit me, how comfortable and flexible they feel. Even compared to other barefoot shoes they're on a whole different level.
I bought my Vibram Spyridon shoes nearly 7 years ago, I went on countless hikes, done a lot of parkour and abused the crap out of it in paintball. Only some of the stitching on the side came loose... and that's it! These shoes are unbelievably durable, flexible and gives you an incredible edge in agility. The soles.... man, I don't know what they are made out of, but mine hasn't the slightest of degradation.
Yea, it's crazy, right? Six years in mine are still working like new with only slight tears and sole wear, like yours. Built like a tank, but without the bulk!
Bodyworker here with a PSA. Please remember to use a transition period when switching to a barefoot shoe. You wouldn't start a new gym routine of multiple 100 lb. dead lifts on day one. Don't expect your underdeveloped foot muscles to support more weight than that 24/7, without working up to it over a few weeks or more 👍. Have a good journey.
I purchased my first pair of vibram five fingers a couple of weeks ago and I was also sceptical about the fact of being just a marketing stuff I use them for casual wear and in the gym for overhead presses, deadlift and squats where I usually weared weightlifting shoes I was quite surprised the feeling I had in the next morning the sored feet & ankles I still have to get use to touch the ground with a flatter feet and not directly with the hell but daaaammmn there are feeling good on the feet... Once you have to put another classic pair of choose after them you feel how tight your foot is squeezed in "traditional" shoes
Totally relatable. I used my Vibram's back when I was leg pressing heavily and it was crazy how good they felt, but yea, some adjustment time is definitely required. Glad they're working out so well for you!
I love my V-treks, had them for over a year. My one problem was that my big toes went through the side of the fabric (made holes between my big and second toes on both sides), this happened when they were only 6 weeks old. I used shoe goo to repair the holes, and other than having to do this a couple of times (when the old goo came away), they've been great. I'm keen to get another pair, but at £90, I really want something I don't have to repair or modify so that they last. Have you had, or heard of this issue?
In five years I've never had any tearing, other than when a thorn snagged the top. Might have to do with your foot shape and/or toe splay. Sometimes toenails can poke through fabric as well.
I had the same issue with lots of vibram trail running shoes. Mud and grit would get between the toes and knacker the fabric. Fast downhill running might also have been a factor. But the newer vibram v-trail 2 shoes have a rubbery skin around the two big toes on each shoe - this has completely solved the problem. For me the main issue now is the durability of the soles - especially for running on gravel. The sole will wear through under the outside edge of my feet, just down from the small toe, after 7-9 months. This is where I tend to land on my forefoot when running fast downhill, so there is a lot of abrasion going on. Would be great to have a little kevlar plate or something there to soak up some of the damage
Brought a pair of the V-trains which I have also used for hiking. Surprisingly good for multi-use, however got a pair of Vivo Tracker Escapes mainly because of issues with rocks and have been thoroughly impressed with them, especially during the winter. Probably will buy either a pair of the Vtreks or Vtrails as the weather gets warmer and see how they compare (famous last words because knowing me I'll end up with both in the end).
Right on! Yea, the V-Train's and ESC's sound like a great duo to cover different terrain and seasons. Nice thing about the V-Trek's is that they've got a wool blend upper, which is more breathable than the V-Trail.
I have worn some vibram nearby in a store. My regular sneaker size usually is 44 (Nike, etc.) I have a flat feet and have a mountain shape flat feet. I have worn 45. They fit well. I mean it was nearly a skin, so I didn’t have much space on my bigger toe. When I was testing a small way there, and run down the stairs they hit a bit the dront. The 46 size was big, it had some space left to the front.
I think a better way to look at this would be that barefoot shoes allow your feet to develop sufficient strength, usually takes around a year to two at this point you should transition to five finger shoes which is as close to barefoot as you can get. Once you wear five finger shoes you will notice just how much softly you walk and how clunky barefoot shoes are.
At first I thought the separate toes were a gimmick, but even compared to my Wildlings, which are .5mm thinner, the Vibram's just feel better. We have separate toes for a reason, I guess. (:
@@AndrewFolts Used five finger for running and the gym exclusively for years, then it clicked i could wear the fivefingers in the office the el-x, now I will also incorporate fivefingers for street wear. Keeping barefoot boots for winter. If just takes time and the right sole thickness to be able to do it 95% of the time.
@@whatsupbudbud as you pointed out you need insulation, but not significant, the right insulation. Personally for winter, I use a preheated "Waterproof" barefoot boot, combined with cotton toes socks, and a pair lorpen t3+ inferno biowarmer as the second layer, this will keep your feet warm for short walks, for longer walks in colder temperatures I use Lenz heated socks and again the second layer the lorpen t3+ inferno biowarmer. The boot must be waterproof as this will offer wind proofing which add a considerable amount of warmth. My feet are never cold with scenario 1 or 2.
@Andrew I’m finally grabbing a pair of V Treks. I hope to use them for both working out and my runs. I know these aren’t advertised for running, but after noticing a puncture on the second toe in between my big toe on my recently purchased V trains… I’m hoping the durability is better on the treks, AND I really dislike the feeling of not enough lock-down. Hoping the traditional lacing on the V Treks fix that…
These and Primus Lite's were all I ran in for like three years, so they certainly worked for me. They tightened up really well, even on my skinny feet, so hopefully they'll work as well for you.
These and Primus Lite's were all I ran in for like three years, so they certainly worked for me. They tightened up really well, even on my skinny feet, so hopefully they'll work as well for you.
@@AndrewFolts thanks for the reply. It really stings to pay $150 for the V-Trains and I’m literally blowing out the bottoms of the toes. The bottoms are disintegrating off and wearing through to the fabric. I’ve had them maybe 3 months. Been running in them for maybe 2… they are advertised as all around durable training shoe indoor & outdoor… I emailed them hoping for at least a partial refund on the Treks that I just ordered.
@@TheJesseLammJeez that sounds terrible. I have heard more complains about the V-Train vs the V-Trek, so hopefully you get a credit or something and better luck with second pair.
@@AndrewFoltsjust got the v treks ! Running in them tomorrow morning before work. They feel so comfortable just trying them on quickly. I’m in a 10.5-11 (44 eu) and the toes fit much better/ snug than the same size in the v alpha & v train. I wish vivobarefoot would steal and recreate their own 5 fingers bc I can tell their brand is a league above. If this v trek doesn’t hold up for me I’ll probably give up on them and grab a second pair of all weather Primus lites. You should see if Vibram will send you a new v trek for you to compare to your older gen.
Bought it a year ago and I agree, this is the best barefoot shoe of all time, yet still require some improvements. I actually wear this 100% of the time. This is how a “Barefoot” shoe should feel in my opinion. I wish more companies will create their own fiver fingers version.
Yea, it's legendary, for sure. I just wish they'd figure out a waterproof option for cold/wet winter days, then I'd probably never wear anything else, ha! The Vivo Gobi Boot is a good alternative, tho, and is only 3.7mm thick with some excellent waterproofing. th-cam.com/video/pP93IHsQua8/w-d-xo.html
@@jamesblaser5329 My current favorites for walking are the Ahinsa Jaya Barefoot boot and the VivoBarefoot FG. I have a list of cold weather barefootwear at this link (sorted by best overall). www.notion.so/aofolts/Winter-Barefootwear-5e17506d43234eb784899ac7cb2c8de8
Yea, I caught my toe on a jagged rock while trail running one time. I'd say the fabric's pretty darn tough, given that it's only got one tear after 5+ years of use.
I never tried vibram but the other day i had a client (im a PT) put some vibram train 2.0 and even though i find that model too bulky i got curious. I've been investigating my options since i would use it for walking / training only . What i know is that the first thing i do when i get home is to take my shoes off, sometimes i train barefoot and when at work i use birkenstock in summer days . I dont fit at all with the hiking/ running population but i am also one of those that like to have their shoes as flat as possible , my walking shoes have been classic chucks for years :) (i got some new chucks and got mad because they increased the cushion, they are hot and i dont enjoy walking on marshmellow) I am going to buy second hand the trek anscent, you convinced me ! Can i say that the fact that this model is quite cool / nice too look at has also contribuited ? Cheers from Portugal
Great review! I'm looking for a replacement for a 10 year old pair of VFF hiking shoes where the leather upper is slowly starting to wear out. Have you tried waterproofing your V-Treks with something like Aquaseal? That's worked for me some VFF models like the older Bikilas.
Suppose I could, but I'd rather have them more breathable than waterproof, since it's only a problem on cold/wet days. Maybe if I get a second pair, tho! I mostly wear my Vivo FG's for nasty weather.
i love the vibrams. I have here in the USA about 6 pairs and maybe 7 pairs in Cambodia. In Cambodia, i have [problems with the glue separating/ i have told vibram but have not gotten a response.
Could be a quality control issue. I've had my V-Trek's five years and never got any separation, but have had people comment saying they have. Some shoe glue might help.
@@AndrewFolts I don't think it's a quality control issue. I think it is something in the soil or water that altered the glue. Because I have about 5 or six pairs in Cambodia that the soul have separated.
Hey, great review! 👌 Would you have any recommendation for really wet trails ! Don't want to go with a traditional boot ! Was looking for something minimalist ??
Just reviewed the Vibram V-NEOP, which is excellect for wet trails, although not steep hills. th-cam.com/video/oeNZliQ5c20/w-d-xo.html Here's a list of fully WP barefoot hiking boots: www.barefootwear.org/finder/?sortId=e%2560g%253E_dsc&filterIds=LpqE%2Cog%255CG%2Czgby&filterValueIds=%60Lmt%2C73a6f23c-1ba8-4ad4-9014-152db84a0fb5%2Cfe073c1b-6ccb-4ef6-840e-e65ff5027432
Hopefully you can help, but I’m stuck in between getting either the v trek or the v trail 2.0. I’ll be going to Austin to hike, trail and walk through/get in water, I hear different things between the two. Like v trail 2.0 is better for water because it still hugs your feet once u get out
The V-Trail is thicker at 5.7mm (including 2mm cushion) with a more aggressive tread for mud and a synthetic upper, while the V-Trek is thinner with a better tread for rocks and a 50% wool upper. Personally I don't like synthetic uppers, because they have poor breathability and get very smelly. The V-Trek's always felt very snug on me, even soaking wet, so I'd say go with what tread you need most (mud vs rock).
Totally know what you mean! My friends called me the "mountain goat" when I went on a backpacking trip with them, because I hiked so fast in my Vibram's, ha! They're like the PF Flyers of barefooting. (:
As a massage therapist this is all I wear. Only downside is they are not waterproof. I don't care what the website says, they're not. I powerlift in them, hike in them, shop in them, do everything in them. Amazing shoe, will never go back to traditional.
I know...sigh. They're like 99% the perfect shoe, except for cold slushy days in winter. Maybe some day they'll make a super fabric that's thin yet waterproof and breathable from inside out.
@@AndrewFolts I actually bought some shoe covers I slide over them on rainy days. It makes you look like you have a condom on your feet. But oh well, you win some, you lose some. 😂
Hello Andrew, Very informative video as always. If you were to choose between these and primus which would would you pick? Also, do you rotate shoes on daily basis - one day vibrams and next day vivo's or stick to one pair for the season? I have couple of Vivo's and always wondered if it would be good to rotate. Thank you once again for the video.
Formerly I would have said Primus for roads, because they used to be thinner (3mm), but now both shoes are 4mm, so the Primus has no advantage over Vibram's. That said, for trails I'd use the V-Trek, for roads I'd use a KSO, and if you want one shoe for both, then go with the V-Trek.
The traction's really good, yea. There are lots of little lugs going off in different directions and they're so flexible they kind of mold over any surface you're walking on. That said, no shoe will give you 100% traction of wet rocks, so you always have to be mindful.
They're kind of pointless, IMO, because the insulation is synthetic, so you'd be better off just layering a couple Injinji merino toe socks with the normal V-Trek's. The insulation won't stop water at all and makes them less versatile for summer.
Hey there, yea, they need toe socks, because they have separate toes. I use Injinji merino wool toe socks. th-cam.com/video/_e6BC2vfl4w/w-d-xo.html I switched seven years ago and never went back.
Hey Andrew, can you please remind me what was the website for used shoes you mentioned in one of your videos? I think it was also in the description notes...can't find it in my notes
Insulated has insulation. It's not waterproof, though, so it's kind of pointless, imo. Better to just buy uninsulated and wear a layer or two of merino wool toe socks.
i think ill have to get some... Vibram's in general seem like the ultimate barefoot shoe... im just socially anxious and don't really want the attention such a shoe would inevitably shine on me.
Yea, they are. It's funny, the first few times I wore them out I was also worried about people noticing them, but after a couple weeks I genuinely looked forward to it, because. they always start good conversations. And at a certain point I started to see non toe shoes as "weird," ha!
I've never had a problem with the toes, but I wonder if that person got a half size too small? The rubber's very bendy, so it shouldn't cause any issues with proper sizing.
Hey Andrew, after watching all your five finger videos (I think?) I had to come ask, have you tried the V-alphas? I keep seeing that they have "good grip" on wet surfaces, and the v treks main downside from what I've seen, for me, would be the slippery when wet aspect... thanks for your time 😅
No, Vibram never replies to my testing requests, unfortunately, but the Alpha tread looks great for wet terrain. If you try them, let me know how they work out.
@AndrewFolts Heya, came back to say that the alphas are indeed very grippy and grippy on several wet surfaces. I've tested them on wet painted wood decks, various types of tile floors while wet, including polished tile, and on wet concrete. I still have more things to test, including wet river rock and various substrates, such as on trail runs, and I've yet to test it on icy ground, but I'll update you in the near future on those things.
The soles certainly would. Tho if you're climbing rope ladders and such, the sides aren't really build to handle heavy abrasion. Something like the Innov-8 Park Claw might work better, but Vibram's should hold up if it's just one race.
Yup, they've got a hybrid road/trail tread, and I use them for absolutely everything. Only things they're not good for are cold/wet conditions in spring and winter.
@@AndrewFolts Great, thank you! I'm just getting around to wearing the barefoot shoes I do have and this helps a lot in choosing my next pair. I was curious if you've tried any of Merrell's Trail Glove or Vapor Glove models and how you think they might stack up against the V-Treks?
@@hmf33 They're decent for hiking, although a bit thicker at 6mm and with a slightly more pointy toebox. Personally, I think 4mm is ideal for flexibility and ground feel, especially on roads and for running.
Used to work with a ex-bouncer who was like 250 and he ran in Vibram's no problem. Obviously losing weight helps, but if you start slow (like 5 minutes the first day) and gradually work up, your calf muscles will provide better shock absorption than any cushion shoe. My Zero-Drop video has some stride footage that might help. Cheers! th-cam.com/video/i2D7BUOAe8g/w-d-xo.html
I think my local store has v-trails - I may go there to try them on because I have weird short and wide feet .. (9.5” long and ~4” wide caveman feet).. I think maybe that is a 9.5-10?
Unfortunately they're out of stock and have been for a while, which is a shame, but they'll probably be back eventually. Here's the listing where you can check: amzn.to/47THAIl
Ha, Andrew²! Haven't tried the insulated, but I've heard it's pointless due to not being WP and letting water/cold in between the toes. The regular kind are great as long as it's not too cold.
Nope, the wool upper's very breathable and moisture wicking. Adding a thin pair of Injinji merino wool toe socks improves the airflow even more. th-cam.com/video/_e6BC2vfl4w/w-d-xo.html I've hiked and run in 90º heat and been fine.
@@AndrewFolts follow up question, vibram Canada website doesn't have many options compared to the US counterpart. Are they shutting down their business in Canada ?
You can definitely get it wet. The wool is still breathable and dries fairly fast, although if you specifically wanted a water shoe, the Aqua has plenty of protection. Just the lugs are a bit different in terms of arrangement.
@@AndrewFolts thanks, I spend a lot of time between water and hiking so looking for a do all water shoes. Have look at the vivobarefoot hydra esc but unsure about it
@@AndrewFolts thanks again, sounds like I count hit some trails in the V Aqua but also all of the five fingers can take some water. Appreciate the guidance
Hey I can only buy barefoot shoes now that im in the UK im gonna buy this one cause of you, what do u recommend to compliment the situations this one is not as great in? Something from vibram itself or vivobarefoots or something else?
Nice! Vivo FG's are a great option for cold/wet days. My barefoot shoes video has some other recommendations, as well: th-cam.com/video/gITFv5zHOpk/w-d-xo.html
@@AndrewFolts thanks so much! I got the vibram v trek but they felt very weird with the socks, im using them barefoot but u seem to be using them with socks, why?
@@Augusto_Caten Using shoes without socks results in blisters for me. Plus it makes the shoes kind of gross, ya know? Much easier to wash a pair of socks.
@@AndrewFolts If you use 5 fingers socks in wide toe box shoes would that feel the same? I just want to find a way around the chimpanzee feet look 🐒. Even though, I would not mind. But if I can get the same benefits with 5 finger socks + wide toe box shoes, I would rather go for that.
I have 11 pairs of vibram FiveFingers… That should say how much I like this kinda of shoes. But! Durability isn’t what comes in mind. Plus. The vibram sole is good but…could be better. With mud you lose grip quiet easily and on rocks…oh boy! You can name them all!! The lack of waterproofing Is also a major issue and in winter…good luck. I have the wool version and winder version and yet…I am on XERO.
Would you recommend any other model shoe from vibram like their running 5 finger? I'm considering a pair myself for work at a warehouse but I don't know if they'd be the best for being comfortable all day while standing/walking on concrete.
I used the V-Trek's when standing on concrete all day at a run specialty job, and they worked great. No pain or fatigue at all. You could also look into Vibram's KSO models, as they're a mm thinner (3mm), which would feel even better on smooth, hard surfaces.
Wouldn't wear them without socks, especially wet, because you'll get some nasty blisters from the rough material sliding against your skin. Use a pair of merino wool toe socks, and they'll dry pretty fast. Plus, in the winter merino gets warmer when it's wet...weird, but true.
@@weew0e767 Lol, well, the other benefits of toe socks are that they keep your shoes cleaner and space out your toes more, but otherwise it's up to you.
I have worn veebs for 15 years. Physically, they are the best thing I have ever done for myself. Back pain gone, and no plantar fasciitis since I started wearing them. The V-runs fit my feet the best. Can't wear the V treks.
Against the bad smell of my Vibram Five Fingers, I bought some shoe deodorant (not foot deodorant) in a drug store. No issues since then. The thing with people staring at your feet can be annoying, be warned!
So, five fingers have given me 100% benefits, and two drawbacks: Separating your pinky toe with grippy somewhat stiff rubber = broken pinky toe, or at least super bruised. Also, I can pick entire bouquets in the space next to my big toe. The slush and wet thing makes them so brutal living in Alaska.
Ha, yea, I pick up dandelions all the time with my Vibram's. When I first got them I had pinky toe rubbing too, but not anymore. Maybe the rubber got more flexible with age. Too bad they haven't figure out how to do a waterproof one. Alaska in Vibram's does sound brutal!
They're 4mm, according to the product page. I've used them for road running, and they're great, but they have other options that are thinner and designed for roads, specifically, like the KSO.
No, but if you pinky toe is a bit crooked from wearing pointy shoes (like most people), then the Vibram's could be straightening it out a bit and causing some nerve pressure.
Hey Jesse! Pretty straightforward...the Vibram's are wider and more flexible with a better grip for trails, while the Lite's are more narrow, but a bit better at keeping water out for days where it's cold and wet. I love both, but the V-Trek's are more versatile, since the Lite's only work on roads. Both are 4mm thick.
Yea, I've used them for leg pressing 500 lbs. Breathability's great for indoor use at the gym. The grip is hybrid, so it works well for both road and trails, except steep, slippery hills.
For how long did you get sore in your feet? I have a sore tibialis anterior and feet muscles, for how long should I expect to have sore muscles and knees when transitioning?
If you have sore feet, it may mean that you're doing too much, too fast. Might helped to scale back your time/milage in barefoot shoes until your body stops hurting, then slowly increase, giving yourself plenty of rest.
You quickly get used to protruding stones and gnarly ground. Obviously recommend you have some barefoot minimalist experience on smooth ground first. Vibrams are incredible for hiking.
The tread is super protective. You can feel the ground, but it doesn't hurt, unless you intentionally put all your weight on a sharp rock or something. Like Danny said, over time you get better at positioning your feet to avoid anything problematic.
V-Alpha is 3.7mm thick with bungee laces and a slightly more aggressive tread, while the V-Trek is 4mm thick with regular laces and a slightly more firm ground tread. But either one are excellent for both roads and trails.
The V-Trek is the most versatile, since it can work for roads and trails, but if you're only using them on pavement, then maybe the KSO Eco Wool. But, honestly, anything in the Casual category would work, so it's just up to which style you prefer: us.vibram.com/shop/shop-all-products/mens-fivefingers/casual/
@@AndrewFolts so I got the V-Trek's and I can't go back to wearing regular shoes, my foot pain is wayyyy better but my back pain is completely gone, I'm amazed that just a change of shoes could help so much, thanks for the advice, gonna get a pair of the KSO just so I can have two pair of Vibrams since I do prefer to use them with out socks here and there, it just feels more comfortable, now I was also looking into buying a pair of "barefoot" shoes that have a normal look just for when I go out with my fiance, so I got a pair from Splay and I just can't wear them they feel tight and my feet start to hurt just like if I wear a regular pair of shoes, in regular shoe size I have to get 4E Wide shoes and those still hurt my feet by the end of the day, what brand of "barefoot" shoes that look like regular shoes would you recommend.
@@singleplayer2280 That's great! It's amazing what a simple shoe can do. For extra-wide, BeLenka is one of the best options. They're very roomy, but have a thin sole like Vibram. www.belenka.com/barefoot-shoes-men/
Are you supposed to be able to move your toes independently in these? I just got them, my first pair of vibrams. And they're really stiff. Do they loosen up with time?
Yea, the rubber gets softer with use. It has to have some rigidity, tho, otherwise it wouldn't provide any protection, and you'd just as well go barefoot. Which I do whenever I have the chance. (:
Hi Andrew! Do you use the v-treks for road running? As a marathon runner and backpacker myself, I'm looking at getting a pair of vibrams that I can use mainly for road running but also for hiking/backpacking (as I'd like to avoid buying two pairs of new shoes). I think I've narrowed it down to the v-treks and the v-alphas based on reviews and descriptions of all the vibram models. Any thoughts? Does the higher ankle of the v-trek have a significantly different feel than other lower ankle vibrams like v-alphas? Have you thought of waterproofing the v-treks? Thanks!
Yea, I use the V-Trek's for road running all the time. The tread is genius, because it's semi-aggressive but also flat enough not to get worn down too badly on roads. Would two shoes work slightly better? Probably. But I love the V-Trek's so much I've never bothered with any of their others. The material's so light the higher top doesn't bother me at all. Would be pretty difficult to waterproof them because of the separate toes, but you could give a try with some spray.
Quiero comprar unos aquí en los Ángeles California pero no encuentro una tienda física para ir a comprarlos ya que quiero medirmelos y que me asesoren cuáles comprar para empezar, si alguien sabe de alguna tienda aquí en los Ángeles California se lo agradecería de corazón ❤ , Gracias y feliz día para todos Dios los bendiga
Desafortunadamente, hay muy pocas tiendas físicas que vendan zapatos barefoot. Lo más cercano que puedes encontrar son los Vibram FiveFingers o los Merrell Trail Glove en REI, o tal vez algunas tiendas especializadas en running. (traducido)
Yea, my big toe is actually larger than most people's due to callus from full barefoot running, but it still fits with plenty of room, even using two pairs of Injinji's. Quite stretchy.
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Hey, your focus on barefoot and zero drop shoes has made an enormous positive difference in my fasciitis pain. Thanks for your positive outlook, too.
Oh man, that's great to hear, James! PF sucks, so I hope you keep feeling better.
I’m new to barefoot and I think it’s giving me fasciitis pain. I’m building up very very slowly by the way
@@ht8083 Andrew might have more insight but I have a softish cricket ball i stand on that gives me huge relief. I just move it around and use it to flex my foot in all different ways.
@@leevancleef553 ahhhh the plastic/rubber ones used at school? Thanks for replying btw
@@AndrewFoltswhat vibram shoe would you suggest for only indoor exercise and treadmill running? I am currently running on xero hfs. Would the elx knit be ok?
In retirement, I’ve adopted the “zero drop, wide toe box” philosophy. I’m approaching three years into a complete transition to ZD shoes. The “five finger” approach I’ve adopted for backpacking, in socks only….I really like Injini socks. Shoes? Not so much….but, watching your light-hearted video, is making me rethink that! Bravo-Zulu, amigo…great video….well done!
Totally relatable, ha! The V-Trek's ended up in the closet when I first started barefoot running, but then I started using them more and more, until now where I use them almost exclusively (except in winter).
I was forced to go on a 6 mile hike in my VFF when I forgot my boots. It was over all types of terrain: dirt, concrete, sand, rocks, forest litter. My felt amazing afterwards; not tired at all. It took some getting use to, just becoming aware of your foot feetplacement
Yea, a lot of people "stumble" into them this way. Glad you're having fun with them!
Yes to the toe arguments. I started my minimalist shoe journey with VFFs in 2006, and after trying various brands and styles, I recently completely came back to FiveFingers. The plus in freedom and feel is just so fun and rewarding.
Personally, I try to avoid laces, and always looking for the most minimal offerings. Therefore my favorite pairs of all time are EL-X for sports, and CVT LB for everything else. Successfully ignoring that winter is coming. I seriously wish Vibram would release a true winter FF, withstanding cold, snow and water.
Great and charming video! Cheers!
Never thought of that, but yea, slip-ins would definitely speed up the toe shoe putting-on process. Have some slip-ins from Vivo, and they're great. Ditto on winter. Winter-proof Vibram's would be the ultimate holiday present. Sigh...
I received them just 3 days ago and I fell in love instantly. Most fun shoes I’ve purchased. I have other barefoot shoes as well, amongst them vivo magna forest… no comparison 😍
Your video helped me a lot to make my decision.
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Yas!!!! The V-Trek's are my all time fav's, and you're right, nothing quite compares. Enjoy! (:
I've hiked more than 400 miles in my V-Treks over the last year. Cannot recommend them enough!
They're so good for hiking. Feet used to ache in stiff Merrell boots, but now I often forget to take the V-Trek's off, ha!
I've tried hiking in boots a few times since switching to V-Treks, and found myself slipping or twisting my ankle so much in them. I truly value the "ground feel" I get from my vibrams for balance and control.
Great video, Andrew!
Just got back from my first ever toe shoe trail run in these bad boys! It was great! Thank you Andrew for exposing me to different options.
Woohoo! V-Trek's are so much fun for trail running. Still my all-time fav's to this day. Keep rocking it out there!
This was not only very informative, but also fun to watch. Thanks 🙏
Thanks, Karsten! I had fun making it too! (:
Great video Andrew, thanks! Love the little chapter notes.
No prob. Glad you liked the notes. Had fun making them too. (:
I really appreciate those little bite paper pieces with "Fit"/"Part four..." It's a great idea.
And about barefoot shoes, I made six pairs of my own boots, so I know how great they can be.
Keep going and let those tiny papers in your videos.
Ha, thanks, Jindra. Tearing paper is so cathartic. Did you make your boots from scratch?
weird comment maybe but I super love your production style!! the review is great but tbh I really like how you do the tilting and how your storytelling is quite laid back!!!
Ha, thanks! Feel like a lot review videos are hyper, so I try to keep things chill. (:
Thanks for this review. Your review is one of the reasons I ended up trying the V Trek and now they are my go-to shoe. The only time I don’t wear them is when I need a safety toe or a dress shoe.
To address the water absorption: I found that a layer of beeswax based leather protectant can help it be more water resistant. Still not waterproof by any means, but it’ll help with a brief splash. Just don’t go too heavy or it ruins the breathability of the mesh.
That's clever, I'll have to try some when it gets colder. Some days you just need a little protection from wet grass.
Very true about Vibram FiveFingers. I used both vivobarefoot and five fingers and after years of trying both brands I tend to gravitate more towards the Vibram five fingers. I always had the best walking/running experience.
Yea, the separate toes really do make a difference. If Vibram could just find a way to make a winterproof FF they'd have a monopoly on me.
@@AndrewFolts The V-insulate?
@@jean-pierrewuestenberghs It's not waterproof, which basically makes it useless. Plus the insulation is synthetic, which offers poor breathability, so I'd rather just wear a couple pairs of Injinji wool socks with the V-Trek's and use something else for wet conditions.
@@AndrewFolts I would like it if they make the V-trek completely in leather.
@@jean-pierrewuestenberghs That would be pretty cool!
I too have the same shoe, it's a great shoe and I agree with everything you said here. Although mine seems to have some kind of extra cushioning for the arch. The bottom reads "arch protection" or something to that effect, it's just a bit thicker at that point and it can prevent a badly placed rock or root from doing damage.
The video reminded me of the "slush problem", I wish it weren't a thing. The feeling of the shoes sucking in cold water is so annoying I chose to get another model and now I use both depending on the day and weather.
Did one of the other models work better for slush? Arch cushion definitely feels nice and doesn't interfere with flexibility or sensitivity, which is always a plus.
@@AndrewFolts I currently have the Merrell Move Glove as my second shoe. It's not got the same amount of feel as the v-trek but being a more conventional shoe it's more resistant to water.
Some say it's good to alternate shoes when running to get more variety and possibly reduce one's injury risk, but seeing as all shoes are minimal I'm not sure how much benefit I will get 🙂
I think you had a video on the Merrell Vapor Glove, that's my walking shoe and I occasionally run in it too. All of these are great shoes!
Never..... step.... in... poop. Worst mistake ever
I think I'm sold and I haven't even finished watching. Thank you. Been increasingly aware of the need for even greater toe freedom since I first went to barefoot shoes. Even my wide Softstar Sawyers, probably the widest shoes in the world, could do with at least a couple more millimetres.
Yea, I heard Softars were nice and roomy. Can't beat the separate toes, tho. My feet are narrow from soccer shoes, and they stretch my toes out a bit, which feels great.
@@AndrewFolts I have a little theory that a lot of people need more width and toe stretching than they realise even when they go barefoot. It would take some work to prove this, but here's my logic so far: despite my wide caveman feet, as someone puts it elsewhere here, I wore regular sneakers for decades without realising they were way too narrow for me. I only switched when I started getting chronic pain and the doctor offered no help. Then I did a little mindfulness excercise about my feet, finally noticed they were being pinched by my Pumas, and went and bought my first barefoot shoes, a pair of Vivos. It took care of the pain, but there was still some discomfort because they still weren't wide enough to let my toes splay.
The point is, as I say, I'd worn Adidas, Puma and New Balance forever without noticing the constriction. If I'd switched before I started getting pain, all I would have noticed was how wonderfully roomy the Vivos were by comparison - without even realising that I still needed more space to let my poor constricted feet really spread out and for the toes to become strong and active in my walking and running.
The Softstars have really been great in helping me understand this. Before them, I was focused on getting more space for my little toes, and thought shoes were fine as long as my big toes weren't forced inwards. The wide Softstars go further, allowing the big toes to really splay away from the other toes and follow the line of the metatarsals - at least on a wide, fan-shaped foot like mine.
I know I'm going on a bit, but I'm sort of obsessed because this big toe splay capacity seems to have finally corrected my gait, getting rid of knee pain, hip twinges and lower back soreness, and making the whole business of walking such a pleasure.
@@JohnMoseley I reckon your theory is totally spot on. No one realised how much their feet are squished in normal shoes & they think their (now) deformed feet is how they’re supposed to be.
I too have wide feet and I try to wear my VVF every time possible when I have to wear shoes except for occasions out to a bar or pub etc, which is when I’ll wear my one of my vivo’s which are foot shaped but still only”just” wide enough, but miles better than a standard shoe.
Thanks for your videos! Everything is super clear)
Thanks for watching, Julia. Cheers! (:
Just bought a same pair and your video are one of the reason I am ready to buy it ❤
Ha, we'll be Gobi buddies! Hope you have many great miles in them. (:
Honest and helpful. Much appreciated.
Glad it was helpful. Cheers, yo!
You get a comment and a like for how short and concise your video was, you could get the same amount of info from a lot of ten minute videos. Keep it up👍
Ha, thanks! I figure everyone's busy, so why beat around the barefoot bush? (:
I completely agree. Ever since I bought a second hand pair of Vibram Trek Ascents, I can't hike or trail run in anything ever since.
Right? I was coming back from a hike a few weeks ago and it hit me, how comfortable and flexible they feel. Even compared to other barefoot shoes they're on a whole different level.
I’m really tempted for some FF but my 3rd toe is my longest and worried the fit will be an issue.
Hey Paul, you could always try a half size up. Vibram takes returns, so not much risk.
I bought my Vibram Spyridon shoes nearly 7 years ago, I went on countless hikes, done a lot of parkour and abused the crap out of it in paintball. Only some of the stitching on the side came loose... and that's it! These shoes are unbelievably durable, flexible and gives you an incredible edge in agility. The soles.... man, I don't know what they are made out of, but mine hasn't the slightest of degradation.
Yea, it's crazy, right? Six years in mine are still working like new with only slight tears and sole wear, like yours. Built like a tank, but without the bulk!
Bodyworker here with a PSA. Please remember to use a transition period when switching to a barefoot shoe. You wouldn't start a new gym routine of multiple 100 lb. dead lifts on day one. Don't expect your underdeveloped foot muscles to support more weight than that 24/7, without working up to it over a few weeks or more 👍. Have a good journey.
Yup, it's easy to do too much, too fast. Back to the ol' tortoise and hare metaphor.
I purchased my first pair of vibram five fingers a couple of weeks ago and I was also sceptical about the fact of being just a marketing stuff
I use them for casual wear and in the gym for overhead presses, deadlift and squats where I usually weared weightlifting shoes
I was quite surprised the feeling I had in the next morning the sored feet & ankles I still have to get use to touch the ground with a flatter feet and not directly with the hell but daaaammmn there are feeling good on the feet... Once you have to put another classic pair of choose after them you feel how tight your foot is squeezed in "traditional" shoes
Totally relatable. I used my Vibram's back when I was leg pressing heavily and it was crazy how good they felt, but yea, some adjustment time is definitely required. Glad they're working out so well for you!
When buying regular shoes in future, aim for shoes with a wide toe box
Pretty excited getting my first pair tomorrow for jogging
Sweet! Have you tried other barefoot shoes, or are these the first?
@@AndrewFolts these are the first
@@coreoglo70 Sweet. Take it real slow at first, and you'll be in good shape. Enjoy!
@@AndrewFolts thanks that’s great advice
These shoes are great i love mine! Love your videos too!
Yea, they're my favs. Appreciate you stopping by. Cheers!
Keep staying awesome, Andrew! 😎
Roger that, Nate! (:
Loving the energy! Might try these out sometime :)
Probably my fav shoe purchase of all time. Enjoy! (:
The _only_ thing I dislike about them is the gum sole yours has. I like the fun colors with the black sole or multicolored soles 💗
Ha, I love the gum sole, but you're in luck, because people have been telling me that's the one style that's sold out right now. (:
I love my V-treks, had them for over a year. My one problem was that my big toes went through the side of the fabric (made holes between my big and second toes on both sides), this happened when they were only 6 weeks old. I used shoe goo to repair the holes, and other than having to do this a couple of times (when the old goo came away), they've been great. I'm keen to get another pair, but at £90, I really want something I don't have to repair or modify so that they last. Have you had, or heard of this issue?
In five years I've never had any tearing, other than when a thorn snagged the top. Might have to do with your foot shape and/or toe splay. Sometimes toenails can poke through fabric as well.
I had the same issue with lots of vibram trail running shoes. Mud and grit would get between the toes and knacker the fabric. Fast downhill running might also have been a factor. But the newer vibram v-trail 2 shoes have a rubbery skin around the two big toes on each shoe - this has completely solved the problem. For me the main issue now is the durability of the soles - especially for running on gravel. The sole will wear through under the outside edge of my feet, just down from the small toe, after 7-9 months. This is where I tend to land on my forefoot when running fast downhill, so there is a lot of abrasion going on. Would be great to have a little kevlar plate or something there to soak up some of the damage
Brought a pair of the V-trains which I have also used for hiking. Surprisingly good for multi-use, however got a pair of Vivo Tracker Escapes mainly because of issues with rocks and have been thoroughly impressed with them, especially during the winter. Probably will buy either a pair of the Vtreks or Vtrails as the weather gets warmer and see how they compare (famous last words because knowing me I'll end up with both in the end).
Right on! Yea, the V-Train's and ESC's sound like a great duo to cover different terrain and seasons. Nice thing about the V-Trek's is that they've got a wool blend upper, which is more breathable than the V-Trail.
@@AndrewFolts There's a hiking store near me that stocks some VFF and I think they might have some V-Treks, so i'll go and have a look.
I have worn some vibram nearby in a store. My regular sneaker size usually is 44 (Nike, etc.)
I have a flat feet and have a mountain shape flat feet. I have worn 45. They fit well. I mean it was nearly a skin, so I didn’t have much space on my bigger toe. When I was testing a small way there, and run down the stairs they hit a bit the dront.
The 46 size was big, it had some space left to the front.
As long as it doesn't hurt, it's ok for your toes to touch to front. Vibram's are meant to fit a little more "skin tight," like a sock.
I think a better way to look at this would be that barefoot shoes allow your feet to develop sufficient strength, usually takes around a year to two at this point you should transition to five finger shoes which is as close to barefoot as you can get. Once you wear five finger shoes you will notice just how much softly you walk and how clunky barefoot shoes are.
At first I thought the separate toes were a gimmick, but even compared to my Wildlings, which are .5mm thinner, the Vibram's just feel better. We have separate toes for a reason, I guess. (:
@@AndrewFolts Used five finger for running and the gym exclusively for years, then it clicked i could wear the fivefingers in the office the el-x, now I will also incorporate fivefingers for street wear. Keeping barefoot boots for winter. If just takes time and the right sole thickness to be able to do it 95% of the time.
@@frederickoparah1669 How do barefoot boots work, considering you need significant insulation against the cold?
@@whatsupbudbud as you pointed out you need insulation, but not significant, the right insulation. Personally for winter, I use a preheated "Waterproof" barefoot boot, combined with cotton toes socks, and a pair lorpen t3+ inferno biowarmer as the second layer, this will keep your feet warm for short walks, for longer walks in colder temperatures I use Lenz heated socks and again the second layer the lorpen t3+ inferno biowarmer. The boot must be waterproof as this will offer wind proofing which add a considerable amount of warmth. My feet are never cold with scenario 1 or 2.
@@frederickoparah1669 Interesting, thanks.
@Andrew I’m finally grabbing a pair of V Treks. I hope to use them for both working out and my runs. I know these aren’t advertised for running, but after noticing a puncture on the second toe in between my big toe on my recently purchased V trains… I’m hoping the durability is better on the treks, AND I really dislike the feeling of not enough lock-down. Hoping the traditional lacing on the V Treks fix that…
These and Primus Lite's were all I ran in for like three years, so they certainly worked for me. They tightened up really well, even on my skinny feet, so hopefully they'll work as well for you.
These and Primus Lite's were all I ran in for like three years, so they certainly worked for me. They tightened up really well, even on my skinny feet, so hopefully they'll work as well for you.
@@AndrewFolts thanks for the reply. It really stings to pay $150 for the V-Trains and I’m literally blowing out the bottoms of the toes. The bottoms are disintegrating off and wearing through to the fabric. I’ve had them maybe 3 months. Been running in them for maybe 2… they are advertised as all around durable training shoe indoor & outdoor… I emailed them hoping for at least a partial refund on the Treks that I just ordered.
@@TheJesseLammJeez that sounds terrible. I have heard more complains about the V-Train vs the V-Trek, so hopefully you get a credit or something and better luck with second pair.
@@AndrewFoltsjust got the v treks ! Running in them tomorrow morning before work. They feel so comfortable just trying them on quickly. I’m in a 10.5-11 (44 eu) and the toes fit much better/ snug than the same size in the v alpha & v train. I wish vivobarefoot would steal and recreate their own 5 fingers bc I can tell their brand is a league above. If this v trek doesn’t hold up for me I’ll probably give up on them and grab a second pair of all weather Primus lites. You should see if Vibram will send you a new v trek for you to compare to your older gen.
Bought it a year ago and I agree, this is the best barefoot shoe of all time, yet still require some improvements. I actually wear this 100% of the time. This is how a “Barefoot” shoe should feel in my opinion. I wish more companies will create their own fiver fingers version.
Yea, it's legendary, for sure. I just wish they'd figure out a waterproof option for cold/wet winter days, then I'd probably never wear anything else, ha! The Vivo Gobi Boot is a good alternative, tho, and is only 3.7mm thick with some excellent waterproofing. th-cam.com/video/pP93IHsQua8/w-d-xo.html
Great review man I do lots of walking will these be good for it
Ha, yes...see you in 5,000 miles. (:
@@AndrewFolts what you recommend for cold weather
@@jamesblaser5329 My current favorites for walking are the Ahinsa Jaya Barefoot boot and the VivoBarefoot FG. I have a list of cold weather barefootwear at this link (sorted by best overall). www.notion.so/aofolts/Winter-Barefootwear-5e17506d43234eb784899ac7cb2c8de8
@@AndrewFolts thank you very much I went for the merrell vapour glove 3 trail fir walking
@11:10 is that a hole? how easily do they tear?
Yea, I caught my toe on a jagged rock while trail running one time. I'd say the fabric's pretty darn tough, given that it's only got one tear after 5+ years of use.
Just got the vibram cvt hemp slip ons and they are by far the best vibrams ever made id highly suggest getting a pair
Oh damn, those look sweet! Will have to try some.
I never tried vibram but the other day i had a client (im a PT) put some vibram train 2.0 and even though i find that model too bulky i got curious. I've been investigating my options since i would use it for walking / training only . What i know is that the first thing i do when i get home is to take my shoes off, sometimes i train barefoot and when at work i use birkenstock in summer days .
I dont fit at all with the hiking/ running population but i am also one of those that like to have their shoes as flat as possible , my walking shoes have been classic chucks for years :) (i got some new chucks and got mad because they increased the cushion, they are hot and i dont enjoy walking on marshmellow)
I am going to buy second hand the trek anscent, you convinced me ! Can i say that the fact that this model is quite cool / nice too look at has also contribuited ?
Cheers from Portugal
Yea, the V-Trek has been my favorite barefoot shoe for six years. Like you say it's very light and breathable with the wool. Enjoy!
Great review! I'm looking for a replacement for a 10 year old pair of VFF hiking shoes where the leather upper is slowly starting to wear out. Have you tried waterproofing your V-Treks with something like Aquaseal? That's worked for me some VFF models like the older Bikilas.
Suppose I could, but I'd rather have them more breathable than waterproof, since it's only a problem on cold/wet days. Maybe if I get a second pair, tho! I mostly wear my Vivo FG's for nasty weather.
Thank you.
Appreciate you watching, cheers!
You are the BEST!
Appreciate you, my dude. Happy barefooting out there!
i love the vibrams. I have here in the USA about 6 pairs and maybe 7 pairs in Cambodia. In Cambodia, i have [problems with the glue separating/ i have told vibram but have not gotten a response.
Could be a quality control issue. I've had my V-Trek's five years and never got any separation, but have had people comment saying they have. Some shoe glue might help.
@@AndrewFolts I don't think it's a quality control issue. I think it is something in the soil or water that altered the glue. Because I have about 5 or six pairs in Cambodia that the soul have separated.
Hey, great review! 👌 Would you have any recommendation for really wet trails ! Don't want to go with a traditional boot ! Was looking for something minimalist ??
Just reviewed the Vibram V-NEOP, which is excellect for wet trails, although not steep hills. th-cam.com/video/oeNZliQ5c20/w-d-xo.html Here's a list of fully WP barefoot hiking boots: www.barefootwear.org/finder/?sortId=e%2560g%253E_dsc&filterIds=LpqE%2Cog%255CG%2Czgby&filterValueIds=%60Lmt%2C73a6f23c-1ba8-4ad4-9014-152db84a0fb5%2Cfe073c1b-6ccb-4ef6-840e-e65ff5027432
Thank you, changed my life
Ha, embarking on toe shoe life now?
That bed scene with the shoes was cute.
Happens to the best of us. (:
Where did you get the socks that go with these shoes?
Injinji merino wool, they're all I wear. bit.ly/3dvdcgk
Hopefully you can help, but I’m stuck in between getting either the v trek or the v trail 2.0. I’ll be going to Austin to hike, trail and walk through/get in water, I hear different things between the two. Like v trail 2.0 is better for water because it still hugs your feet once u get out
The V-Trail is thicker at 5.7mm (including 2mm cushion) with a more aggressive tread for mud and a synthetic upper, while the V-Trek is thinner with a better tread for rocks and a 50% wool upper. Personally I don't like synthetic uppers, because they have poor breathability and get very smelly. The V-Trek's always felt very snug on me, even soaking wet, so I'd say go with what tread you need most (mud vs rock).
Thanks! 👍👍
Thank you! (:
I used this pair for hiking, not only they are comfy but I walk much faster than my companions, while carrying a heavy backpack.
Totally know what you mean! My friends called me the "mountain goat" when I went on a backpacking trip with them, because I hiked so fast in my Vibram's, ha! They're like the PF Flyers of barefooting. (:
As a massage therapist this is all I wear. Only downside is they are not waterproof. I don't care what the website says, they're not. I powerlift in them, hike in them, shop in them, do everything in them. Amazing shoe, will never go back to traditional.
I know...sigh. They're like 99% the perfect shoe, except for cold slushy days in winter. Maybe some day they'll make a super fabric that's thin yet waterproof and breathable from inside out.
@@AndrewFolts I actually bought some shoe covers I slide over them on rainy days. It makes you look like you have a condom on your feet. But oh well, you win some, you lose some. 😂
Hello Andrew,
Very informative video as always. If you were to choose between these and primus which would would you pick? Also, do you rotate shoes on daily basis - one day vibrams and next day vivo's or stick to one pair for the season? I have couple of Vivo's and always wondered if it would be good to rotate. Thank you once again for the video.
Formerly I would have said Primus for roads, because they used to be thinner (3mm), but now both shoes are 4mm, so the Primus has no advantage over Vibram's. That said, for trails I'd use the V-Trek, for roads I'd use a KSO, and if you want one shoe for both, then go with the V-Trek.
Hello! How should they fit, should it be space in front of your toes?
No, usually VIbram's should fit snug (but not tight) to the end of your toes. I often go a size down.
Can you share your experience on wet slippery surfaces like wet boulders near waterfalls ? Is it grippy enough ?
The traction's really good, yea. There are lots of little lugs going off in different directions and they're so flexible they kind of mold over any surface you're walking on. That said, no shoe will give you 100% traction of wet rocks, so you always have to be mindful.
@@AndrewFolts okay. Thankyou. Also heard some reviews saying V-trail sole had more traction then V-trek. Any comments on it ?
@@rrajdeep02 Never tried it, so I couldn't say, although I've never felt the need for any more traction than the V-Trek has.
@@AndrewFolts okay. That's helpfull. I just found a local store, which will help me decide after trying out. I will update you about my experience.
Would love to see vivos being sold here in Brazil
Sometimes you can find them on eBay, but yea, hopefully someday there will more more international barefoot companies.
NICE! What about sizes? How do they compare?
They run true to size for me.
Are you wearing your standard VFF size in these? Vibram say go one size up but varied opinions. Cheers.
They fit true to size for me, but I've had them since 2017, so sizing may have changed since then.
For me one size up.
Have you tried the Insulated version of the Vtrek? I was wondering if those were better when its so cold out or snowy.
They're kind of pointless, IMO, because the insulation is synthetic, so you'd be better off just layering a couple Injinji merino toe socks with the normal V-Trek's. The insulation won't stop water at all and makes them less versatile for summer.
Well thanks mate. I appreciate you taking time to respond. Restarting my journey from 2012 with these shoes on the alpha and cvt. Have a great week!
@@djfrozone Cheers, you too!
Hi.
Can you use them with normal socks or must be with finger socks as well? 😁
Hey there, yea, they need toe socks, because they have separate toes. I use Injinji merino wool toe socks. th-cam.com/video/_e6BC2vfl4w/w-d-xo.html I switched seven years ago and never went back.
@AndrewFolts thank you. Yes it s toes and not fingers lmao 😁
Hey Andrew, can you please remind me what was the website for used shoes you mentioned in one of your videos? I think it was also in the description notes...can't find it in my notes
Hey, Max, it's revivo.com. (:
Whats the difference between the original and the insulated version?
Insulated has insulation. It's not waterproof, though, so it's kind of pointless, imo. Better to just buy uninsulated and wear a layer or two of merino wool toe socks.
i think ill have to get some... Vibram's in general seem like the ultimate barefoot shoe... im just socially anxious and don't really want the attention such a shoe would inevitably shine on me.
Yea, they are. It's funny, the first few times I wore them out I was also worried about people noticing them, but after a couple weeks I genuinely looked forward to it, because. they always start good conversations. And at a certain point I started to see non toe shoes as "weird," ha!
I read a review that mentioned a discomfort with the upward angle of the toes. Has that ever been an issue for anyone else? Thanks!
I've never had a problem with the toes, but I wonder if that person got a half size too small? The rubber's very bendy, so it shouldn't cause any issues with proper sizing.
Hey Andrew, after watching all your five finger videos (I think?) I had to come ask, have you tried the V-alphas? I keep seeing that they have "good grip" on wet surfaces, and the v treks main downside from what I've seen, for me, would be the slippery when wet aspect... thanks for your time 😅
No, Vibram never replies to my testing requests, unfortunately, but the Alpha tread looks great for wet terrain. If you try them, let me know how they work out.
@AndrewFolts I'm going to go ahead and try them and I will test them in all conditions. I'll get back to you.
@AndrewFolts Heya, came back to say that the alphas are indeed very grippy and grippy on several wet surfaces. I've tested them on wet painted wood decks, various types of tile floors while wet, including polished tile, and on wet concrete.
I still have more things to test, including wet river rock and various substrates, such as on trail runs, and I've yet to test it on icy ground, but I'll update you in the near future on those things.
@@flipperzero9662 That's great to hear, appreciate it. Will keep working on Vibram to send me some for review. Enjoy!
I"ve had these for a couple years. Do you think a new pair will hold up in a Spartan Race? If not, I'm open to suggestions. Great Video!!!
The soles certainly would. Tho if you're climbing rope ladders and such, the sides aren't really build to handle heavy abrasion. Something like the Innov-8 Park Claw might work better, but Vibram's should hold up if it's just one race.
Hey Andrew, I was wondering if I could use these V-Treks for running on the trails and maybe on pavement as well?
Thank you!
Yup, they've got a hybrid road/trail tread, and I use them for absolutely everything. Only things they're not good for are cold/wet conditions in spring and winter.
@@AndrewFolts Great, thank you!
I'm just getting around to wearing the barefoot shoes I do have and this helps a lot in choosing my next pair.
I was curious if you've tried any of Merrell's Trail Glove or Vapor Glove models and how you think they might stack up against the V-Treks?
@@hmf33 They're decent for hiking, although a bit thicker at 6mm and with a slightly more pointy toebox. Personally, I think 4mm is ideal for flexibility and ground feel, especially on roads and for running.
Should I wait until I lose the 50 lbs I need to lose before doing shoes like this? Sticking to high cushion shoes for now?
Used to work with a ex-bouncer who was like 250 and he ran in Vibram's no problem. Obviously losing weight helps, but if you start slow (like 5 minutes the first day) and gradually work up, your calf muscles will provide better shock absorption than any cushion shoe. My Zero-Drop video has some stride footage that might help. Cheers! th-cam.com/video/i2D7BUOAe8g/w-d-xo.html
Im 330 you’ll be ok take it slow
I think my local store has v-trails - I may go there to try them on because I have weird short and wide feet .. (9.5” long and ~4” wide caveman feet).. I think maybe that is a 9.5-10?
Ha, yea, V-Trek's are great for caveman feet! I'm usually a 10 and they fit true to size for me.
I'm 10" by just over 4" so I'm literally feeling your pain. Nobody in shoe manufacturing anywhere seems to want to fully help us out.
How do I i get the exact colour way that you have? The one you linked on Amazon looks different.
Unfortunately they're out of stock and have been for a while, which is a shame, but they'll probably be back eventually. Here's the listing where you can check: amzn.to/47THAIl
Hey - fellow, Andrew.. do you have the insulated V-Trek or just the regular kind? I'm probably going to buy me a pair 😂
Ha, Andrew²! Haven't tried the insulated, but I've heard it's pointless due to not being WP and letting water/cold in between the toes. The regular kind are great as long as it's not too cold.
I just bought a pair a few weeks ago. Do you think these will be too hot for Mexico ?
Nope, the wool upper's very breathable and moisture wicking. Adding a thin pair of Injinji merino wool toe socks improves the airflow even more. th-cam.com/video/_e6BC2vfl4w/w-d-xo.html I've hiked and run in 90º heat and been fine.
@@AndrewFolts thanks!! I live in Canada Alberta and cannot find a store that sells them! Do you think the Amazon injinji socks are good ??
@@jonny123596 No, but Vibram sells merino wool toe socks on Amazon that would be a solid option: amzn.to/3SOgMDQ
@@AndrewFolts follow up question, vibram Canada website doesn't have many options compared to the US counterpart. Are they shutting down their business in Canada ?
Where is the products link?
In the description and pinned comment. (:
Could you use these in and around water? I understand the V Aqua is an option but you get minimal protection for hiking with that.
You can definitely get it wet. The wool is still breathable and dries fairly fast, although if you specifically wanted a water shoe, the Aqua has plenty of protection. Just the lugs are a bit different in terms of arrangement.
@@AndrewFolts thanks, I spend a lot of time between water and hiking so looking for a do all water shoes. Have look at the vivobarefoot hydra esc but unsure about it
@@chrislaw9574 Don't much care for the ESC line, because they're really thick (Hydra is almost 10mm).
@@AndrewFolts thanks again, sounds like I count hit some trails in the V Aqua but also all of the five fingers can take some water. Appreciate the guidance
Is there a best barefoot shoes for hiking in wet conditions like a water shoe?
Yea, I use the VivoBarefoot Primus FG. They have a waterproof version for winter. You can find it cheaper/refurbished on revivo.com, as well.
Interesting that you also use “ON” brand
I used to when I wore cushion shoes, but no longer. I now find them very tight and clunky feeling.
Hey I can only buy barefoot shoes now that im in the UK im gonna buy this one cause of you, what do u recommend to compliment the situations this one is not as great in? Something from vibram itself or vivobarefoots or something else?
Nice! Vivo FG's are a great option for cold/wet days. My barefoot shoes video has some other recommendations, as well: th-cam.com/video/gITFv5zHOpk/w-d-xo.html
@@AndrewFolts thanks so much! I got the vibram v trek but they felt very weird with the socks, im using them barefoot but u seem to be using them with socks, why?
@@Augusto_Caten Using shoes without socks results in blisters for me. Plus it makes the shoes kind of gross, ya know? Much easier to wash a pair of socks.
What's the benefits of these over wide toe box shoes?
Better flexibility, agility, and they actually spread your toes vs just not cramping them.
@@AndrewFolts If you use 5 fingers socks in wide toe box shoes would that feel the same? I just want to find a way around the chimpanzee feet look 🐒.
Even though, I would not mind. But if I can get the same benefits with 5 finger socks + wide toe box shoes, I would rather go for that.
@@_el.guapo_ Yea, you'd get a a bit of spread, but none of the flex-agility.
@@AndrewFolts Thanks for sharing your insight. I will go full chimp then.
I have 11 pairs of vibram FiveFingers…
That should say how much I like this kinda of shoes. But!
Durability isn’t what comes in mind.
Plus. The vibram sole is good but…could be better.
With mud you lose grip quiet easily and on rocks…oh boy!
You can name them all!!
The lack of waterproofing Is also a major issue and in winter…good luck.
I have the wool version and winder version and yet…I am on XERO.
Yea, too bad they haven't found a waterproofing solution, or I'd wear them all year long!
@@AndrewFolts Absolutely!
It is weird cos some past models used to be water proof.
Also the design was more “Italian”.
Now they kinda lost the touch.
Would you recommend any other model shoe from vibram like their running 5 finger? I'm considering a pair myself for work at a warehouse but I don't know if they'd be the best for being comfortable all day while standing/walking on concrete.
I used the V-Trek's when standing on concrete all day at a run specialty job, and they worked great. No pain or fatigue at all. You could also look into Vibram's KSO models, as they're a mm thinner (3mm), which would feel even better on smooth, hard surfaces.
is it okay to get them wet without socks? or will they dry too slow
Wouldn't wear them without socks, especially wet, because you'll get some nasty blisters from the rough material sliding against your skin. Use a pair of merino wool toe socks, and they'll dry pretty fast. Plus, in the winter merino gets warmer when it's wet...weird, but true.
@@AndrewFolts what if i have meanly meat claw feet that dont get blisters thanks to past speed skating 😂
@@AndrewFolts also tysm to replying to my comments you're the best 😊
@@weew0e767 Lol, well, the other benefits of toe socks are that they keep your shoes cleaner and space out your toes more, but otherwise it's up to you.
I have worn veebs for 15 years. Physically, they are the best thing I have ever done for myself. Back pain gone, and no plantar fasciitis since I started wearing them. The V-runs fit my feet the best. Can't wear the V treks.
"veebs" Ha, love it! Were the V-Trek's too big or something?
Why can't you wear the v treks?
Against the bad smell of my Vibram Five Fingers, I bought some shoe deodorant (not foot deodorant) in a drug store. No issues since then. The thing with people staring at your feet can be annoying, be warned!
Ha, which Vibram's did you get a bad smell from?
So, five fingers have given me 100% benefits, and two drawbacks:
Separating your pinky toe with grippy somewhat stiff rubber = broken pinky toe, or at least super bruised.
Also, I can pick entire bouquets in the space next to my big toe.
The slush and wet thing makes them so brutal living in Alaska.
Ha, yea, I pick up dandelions all the time with my Vibram's. When I first got them I had pinky toe rubbing too, but not anymore. Maybe the rubber got more flexible with age. Too bad they haven't figure out how to do a waterproof one. Alaska in Vibram's does sound brutal!
@@AndrewFolts nah, I mean I catch my pinky toe and stub the hell out of it. The shape and separation have caught several table legs, etc.
I've seen so many contradicting claims about the total stack height of these shoes. What is the stack height? Are these good for road running?
They're 4mm, according to the product page. I've used them for road running, and they're great, but they have other options that are thinner and designed for roads, specifically, like the KSO.
for a while, my pinky toe is numb after wearing these shoes, do you feel that way too?
No, but if you pinky toe is a bit crooked from wearing pointy shoes (like most people), then the Vibram's could be straightening it out a bit and causing some nerve pressure.
Can you do a video comparing primus lite 3 vs v trek?
Hey Jesse! Pretty straightforward...the Vibram's are wider and more flexible with a better grip for trails, while the Lite's are more narrow, but a bit better at keeping water out for days where it's cold and wet. I love both, but the V-Trek's are more versatile, since the Lite's only work on roads. Both are 4mm thick.
@@AndrewFolts Does Vibram not have a water proof variant of the V trek that would solve the bad weather problems?
Thanks a lot!
bro do they also work for like gym, running urban and offroad?
Yea, I've used them for leg pressing 500 lbs. Breathability's great for indoor use at the gym. The grip is hybrid, so it works well for both road and trails, except steep, slippery hills.
For how long did you get sore in your feet? I have a sore tibialis anterior and feet muscles, for how long should I expect to have sore muscles and knees when transitioning?
If you have sore feet, it may mean that you're doing too much, too fast. Might helped to scale back your time/milage in barefoot shoes until your body stops hurting, then slowly increase, giving yourself plenty of rest.
For me it last nearly a year to make the transition.
What about standing on a stone? Does it hurt?
You quickly get used to protruding stones and gnarly ground. Obviously recommend you have some barefoot minimalist experience on smooth ground first. Vibrams are incredible for hiking.
The tread is super protective. You can feel the ground, but it doesn't hurt, unless you intentionally put all your weight on a sharp rock or something. Like Danny said, over time you get better at positioning your feet to avoid anything problematic.
Bro what’s the main different between this and the v-alpha?
V-Alpha is 3.7mm thick with bungee laces and a slightly more aggressive tread, while the V-Trek is 4mm thick with regular laces and a slightly more firm ground tread. But either one are excellent for both roads and trails.
So I've been thinking of going with this type of shoes, I need a pair for everyday use, which would you recommend?
The V-Trek is the most versatile, since it can work for roads and trails, but if you're only using them on pavement, then maybe the KSO Eco Wool. But, honestly, anything in the Casual category would work, so it's just up to which style you prefer: us.vibram.com/shop/shop-all-products/mens-fivefingers/casual/
@@AndrewFolts so I got the V-Trek's and I can't go back to wearing regular shoes, my foot pain is wayyyy better but my back pain is completely gone, I'm amazed that just a change of shoes could help so much, thanks for the advice, gonna get a pair of the KSO just so I can have two pair of Vibrams since I do prefer to use them with out socks here and there, it just feels more comfortable, now I was also looking into buying a pair of "barefoot" shoes that have a normal look just for when I go out with my fiance, so I got a pair from Splay and I just can't wear them they feel tight and my feet start to hurt just like if I wear a regular pair of shoes, in regular shoe size I have to get 4E Wide shoes and those still hurt my feet by the end of the day, what brand of "barefoot" shoes that look like regular shoes would you recommend.
@@singleplayer2280 That's great! It's amazing what a simple shoe can do. For extra-wide, BeLenka is one of the best options. They're very roomy, but have a thin sole like Vibram. www.belenka.com/barefoot-shoes-men/
So what IS the best barefoot boot for wet and cold?
For roads the Primus Lite (or All-Weather version) works well. For the trails, the Primus FG (or All Weather version).
Are you supposed to be able to move your toes independently in these? I just got them, my first pair of vibrams. And they're really stiff. Do they loosen up with time?
Yea, the rubber gets softer with use. It has to have some rigidity, tho, otherwise it wouldn't provide any protection, and you'd just as well go barefoot. Which I do whenever I have the chance. (:
Hi Andrew! Do you use the v-treks for road running? As a marathon runner and backpacker myself, I'm looking at getting a pair of vibrams that I can use mainly for road running but also for hiking/backpacking (as I'd like to avoid buying two pairs of new shoes). I think I've narrowed it down to the v-treks and the v-alphas based on reviews and descriptions of all the vibram models. Any thoughts? Does the higher ankle of the v-trek have a significantly different feel than other lower ankle vibrams like v-alphas? Have you thought of waterproofing the v-treks? Thanks!
Yea, I use the V-Trek's for road running all the time. The tread is genius, because it's semi-aggressive but also flat enough not to get worn down too badly on roads. Would two shoes work slightly better? Probably. But I love the V-Trek's so much I've never bothered with any of their others. The material's so light the higher top doesn't bother me at all. Would be pretty difficult to waterproof them because of the separate toes, but you could give a try with some spray.
Quiero comprar unos aquí en los Ángeles California pero no encuentro una tienda física para ir a comprarlos ya que quiero medirmelos y que me asesoren cuáles comprar para empezar, si alguien sabe de alguna tienda aquí en los Ángeles California se lo agradecería de corazón ❤ , Gracias y feliz día para todos Dios los bendiga
Desafortunadamente, hay muy pocas tiendas físicas que vendan zapatos barefoot. Lo más cercano que puedes encontrar son los Vibram FiveFingers o los Merrell Trail Glove en REI, o tal vez algunas tiendas especializadas en running. (traducido)
Are there shoes water repellent? I'm looking for shoes which can be hit by rain and won't wet my socks
Vibram's aren't, unfortunately. For water and winterpoof I use VivoBarefoot.
Does any one know when is a good time of year to find deals on these?
V-Trek's? They don't go on sale much, but you could check eBay and see if there's an open box version.
@@AndrewFolts 👍🏾 thanks .Great video. Going to get the v- treks.
@@believeinjesus8300 Nice, I've had a ton of fun with mine. Enjoy!
Bro do you feel like your big toe fits perfectly? Is there any space to the front? Can you also wear socks? For cooler days
Yea, my big toe is actually larger than most people's due to callus from full barefoot running, but it still fits with plenty of room, even using two pairs of Injinji's. Quite stretchy.
Aren't the V-trek 8mm thick?? That's what it says in the description of the product. You say that they are 4mm in your video.
Product page says "4mm" as far as I can see. us.vibram.com/shop/shop-all-products/mens-fivefingers/casual/v-trek-mens-M74.html
@@AndrewFolts from what I can see in some descriptions, it has a 4mm rubber outsole and a 4mm midsole, for a total of 8mm, but now I'm in doubt.