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Why are all the Sunni brothers here pressed? What was said is factual from your own Sunni books and the best the Sunni brothers can say is "look at how he's cursing Umar" brothers there's absolutely no cursing here stop accusing and everything that was said are from your own books if you disagree then you're ultimately disagreeing with your own literature. Salam
It is startling how emotional people get when Omar character is questioned and how quiet they are when Mohamad ﷺ Ali(as) and Fatima(sa) character are questioned. Before you all get triggered look at the Sunni tafseer of Surrat Ab'basa. I would never suggest that my sunni brothers & sisters are corrupt or have bad intentions, I am mearly stating that there has been a historical corruption because of political considerations. Now this does not just apply to Sunni beliefs, it is just as prevalent within the Shi'a community. That said, if you hold onto the Book & the Ahl alBayt (as instructed), not just love them but truly follow their leads in practice and character then you shall never go astray.
I love how he analyses everything so objectively without any personal opinion. Goes to show how well informed he is about what he talks about. I love this series. His analysis of the Prophet's life too is the perfect biography we were deprived of growing up. Thank you for this amazing series!
I have no idea why shias spend their time attacking the companions and the wives of the prophet peace be up him and at the same time claim they love ahlul bayt peace be up on them
@@shinemalin1853 without any hard feelings I would invite you to read Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim about all of these events. Particularly the time right after the Prophet's passing. You'll see why we say what we say :)
@@sarahaider5604 and bukhari and muslim say nothing bad about any of the companions and the wives if the prophet peace be up on him so you may need to read it so that you can understand
Salam Alaykum, A great discussion and eye-opening observation. Is it possible to get the reference of the hadith mentioned from Bukhari? I'm a newbie trying to get historical facts straight, would be much appreciated if a reference could be shared. Jazak ALLAH
Found it in the comments section! Thank you! While `Umar was at home in a state of fear, there came Al-`As bin Wail As-Sahmi Abu `Amr, wearing an embroidered cloak and a shirt having silk hems. He was from the tribe of Bani Sahm who were our allies during the pre-Islamic period of ignorance. Al-`As said to `Umar "What is wrong with you?" He said, "Your people claim that they would kill me if I become a Muslim." Al-`As said, "Nobody will harm you after I have given protection to you." So Al-`As went out and met the people streaming in the whole valley. He said, "Where are you going?" They said, "We want Ibn Al-Khattab who has embraced Islam." Al-`As said, "There is no way for anybody to touch him." So the people retreated. Ref: sunnah.com/bukhari:3864
Sayyidina Hassan radiya Llahu ‘anhu also named one of his sons ‘Umar. Similarly, the Shia have listed one of the sons of Sayyidina Hussain radiya Llahu ‘anhu as ‘Umar. Likewise, Zayn al ‘abidin named one of his children after ‘Umar. Sayyidina ‘Umar’s radiya Llahu ‘anhu name featuring among the children of Sayyidina ‘Ali radiya Llahu ‘anhu, generation after generation, is nothing accidental or coincidental, nor a once off happening. This was an authentic reality and practice which remained among the Imams. This proves with no uncertainty that there existed love, compassion, friendship, unity, etc., between Sayyidina ‘Ali and Sayyidina ‘Umar radiya Llahu ‘anhuma. There was no type of personal, religious, or political hatred, animosity, distaste, opposition, or enmity. To prove this matter, the upcoming narrations are strong evidences. We will present quotations verbatim from books regarded reliable by the Shia seniors. This aspect was discussed with detail in the seventh section of chapter five of the Siddiqi section and citations from both Sunni and Shia books were reproduced. We will suffice here on reproducing from Shia books for purposes of brevity.
The below references and quotes are from authentic Shia imams and hadeeths. Why don’t you share this with your followers. Be the “Farook” and don’t be afraid and say the truth.
You can feel the hatred, envy and jealousy from this man. Go back to the facts. Omar (r) was in fact the ambassador of the tribe of Qurash. So his conversion in Islam was a blessing and strength for Islam that Allah ordained from 7 skies. The angels celebrated in the sky on the conversion of Omar as the prophet reported. Stop spreading lies and deception. The non Muslims classify Omar(r) as one the world’s greatest leaders. And now we have this no body assessing the “conduct of Omar” FYI your predecessors killed and back stabbed Ali(r) and Hussein(r) which resulted to their death. Go back to your books and Imam Jafar Al Sadick.
Yes everyone celebrated Omar's conversion except Omar himself. JazakAllah for dropping by. But if one has decided he already has knowledge and he will only listen what he/she wishes to listen then there is no discussion that can take place. Then one begins to reject authentic hadiths of Bukhari because they don't suit him but accepts the weaker ones as he/she likes them.
Ibn Masoud said about Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) embracing Islam, “We remained strong after Umar embraced Islam” [related by Al-Bukhari]. He also said, “We were not able to pray at the Kaaba until Umar entered Islam. When Umar entered Islam, he fought Quraysh until he could pray at the Kaaba, and we prayed with him” [related by Al-Bukhari].
The same Bukhari shares the fears of Omar after becoming Muslim. So which Bukhari to follow? Also, all Muslims agree that Prophet used to pray at the grand mosque way before the Islam of Omar. Please check the episode The First Three Muslims for details.
At one place you are so strong that the whole community was able to pray in front of Kaaba but on the other hand you have so much fear that you are not ready to get out of your home and need a guarantor for yourself. If this logically make sense to you then definitely it is possible. Btw Muslims used to pray at Kaaba from the first year of Islam. Check the episode the first three Muslims. The problem with these stories is that they are self contradictory.
فقال يا ابن رسول الله ما تقول في حق أبي بكر و عمر فقال عليه السلام هما إمامان عادلان قاسطان كانا على الحق و ماتا عليه فعليهما رحمة الله يوم القيامة He asked, “O son of Rasulullah salla Llahu ‘alayhi wa sallam! What do you say about Abu Bakr and ‘Umar?” He replied, “They were just and fair leaders. They remained upon the truth and died upon the same. May Allah’s mercy be upon them on the Day of Qiyamah.”[2]
و المروي عن جعفر بن محمد أنه كان يتولاهما و يأتي القبر فيسلم عليهما مع تسليمه على رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم It is reported that Jafar ibn Muhammad befriended them and would approach the grave and greet them when he greeted Rasulullah salla Llahu ‘alayhi wa sallam.[3] The scholars should also be notified that the author of al Shafi Sayed Murtada ‘Alam al Huda could not come up with any sensible answer to this. At the end, he was constrained to present the ancient solution of Taqiyyah.
In Usul al Kafi, book on proof, chapter on the decision taken between the claim of truth and falsehood in the matter of Imamah, Muhammad ibn Ya’qub al Kulayni records an incident of condolence which makes mention of ‘Umar ibn ‘Ali ibn al Hussain. The text is: عن عبد الله بن إبراهيم بن محمد الجعفري قال أتينا خديجة بنت عمر بن علي بن الحسين بن علي بن أبي طالب عليهم السلام نعزيها بابن بنتها فوجدنا عندها موسى بن عبد الله بن الحسن فإذا هي في ناحية قريبا من النساء فعزيناها ‘Abdullah ibn Ibrahim ibn Muhammad al Jafari reports: We came to Khadijah bint ‘Umar ibn ‘Ali ibn al Hussain ibn ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib radiya Llahu ‘anhum to give her condolence over the death of her nephew. We found Musa ibn ‘Abdullah ibn al Hassan by her. She was in the corner close to the women. We conveyed our condolences to her.[14] b. In the chapter of the children of ‘Ali ibn al Hussain, Mufid lists 15 of his children, viz. Muhammad al Baqir, ‘Abdullah, Hassan, Hussain, Zaid, ‘Umar, Hussain al Asghar, ‘Abdul Rahman, Sulaiman, ‘Ali, etc. ‘Umar’s name appears sixth on the list. After the 10 sons, the daughters were listed.[15] c. ‘Ali ibn ‘Isa al Arbili lists the names of Zayn al ‘Abidin’s children. He lists Muhammad al Baqir first, Zaid second, and ‘Umar third. (Zaid and ‘Umar’s mother was an Umm Walad.)[16] d. There is mention of ‘Umar ibn Zayn al ‘Abidin in ‘Umdat al Talib.[17] e. ‘Abbas al Qummi has written in Muntaha al Amal while discussing the children of Zayn al ‘abidin: … زید و عمر از ام ولد دیگر إلخ Zaid and ‘Umar from another Umm Walad.[18] f. The same author lists Zayn al ‘Abidin’s son ‘Umar al Ashraf while enumerating all individuals with the name ‘Umar in Tuhfat al Ahbab. He praises and compliments him extensively. He says: عمر از فضلاۓ تابعین و جلیل القدر صاحب ورع و والی صدقات پیغمبر و امیر المؤمنین بودہ إلخ ‘Umar was among the distinguished Tabi’in, a man of dignity, abstinence, and administrator of the charity of Rasulullah salla Llahu ‘alayhi wa sallam and Amir al Mu’minin.[19]
Ahmed ibn Ya’qub ibn Jafar states that Sayyidina Hassan radiya Llahu ‘anhu had 8 sons. His third son was ‘Umar. و كان للحسن من الولد ثمانية ذكور و هم الحسن بن الحسن (المثنى) و أمه خولة بنت منظور الفزارية و زيد بن الحسن و أمه أم بشر بنت أبي مسعود الأنصاري الخزرجي و عمر و القاسم و أبو بكر و عبد الرحمن لأمهات أولاد شتى و طلحة و عبيد الله Hassan had eight sons. They are: Hassan ibn al Hassan (al Muthanna) whose mother is Khawlah bint Manzur al Fazariyyah; Zaid ibn al Hassan whose mother is Umm Bishr bint Abi Mas’ud al Ansari al Khazraji; ‘Umar, Qasim, Abu Bakr, and ‘Abdul Rahman―from various umm walads; Talhah and ‘Ubaid Allah.[9] b. Mufid as well as al Arbili have dedicated a section to the biography of Hassan (al Muthanna) ibn al Imam al Hassan radiya Llahu ‘anhu wherein he lists ‘Umar ibn al Hassan as one of Hassan al Muthanna’s sons as well as Abu Bakr ibn al Hassan.[10] c. Ibn ‘Inabah has enumerated Zaid, Hassan al Muthanna, ‘Abdullah (whose agnomen is Abu Bakr), ‘Umar, etc. as the sons of Sayyidina Hassan radiya Llahu ‘anhu.[11] d. Mulla Al Baqir Majlisi lists the martyrs of Karbala’ in Jala’ al ‘Uyun: و چہار نفر از فرزندان امام حسن ابو بکر و عبد اللہ و قاسم و بشر و بعضے بجاۓ بشر عمر گفتہ اند و از فرزندان امام حسین آنچہ مشہور ست علی اکبر و عبد اللہ کہ در کنار حضرت شہید شد و بعضی ابراہیم و محمد و حمزہ و علی دیگر و جعفر و عمر و زید گفتہ اند Four from the sons of Imam Hassan, viz. Abu Bakr, ‘Abdullah, Qasim, and Bishr. Some have substituted Bishr with ‘Umar. And from the sons of Imam Hussain, these are the famous figures ‘Ali Akbar, ‘Abdullah who was martyred alongside him, Ibrahim, Muhammad, Hamzah, ‘Ali the second, Jafar, ‘Umar, and Zaid.[12] e. ‘Abbas al Qummi states while discussing the children of Imam Hassan radiya Llahu ‘anhu: عمر بن الحسن و دو برادر اعیانی او قاسم و عبد اللہ و مادر ایشاں ام ولد ست ‘Umar ibn al Hassan and two full brothers Qasim and ‘Abdullah. Their mother was an Umm Walad.[13]
During the embargo by Qurays in three years where is Umar where abouts,??? History kept quite about the constribution of Umar towsrds Bani Hasyim during the three years of the Prophet (s) n Bani Hasyim sufferings!!!.
My question is to you 1 If you believe that Our prophet Muhammad is the prophet of Allah the please answer my question Why prophet Muhammad appoint Omar Ibn Al Khattab the second Caliph or khalifa ? Why ? Please answer me .
@14:51 please narrate the whole story, not the bits and pieces that please you. If supposedly Hazrat Umer refused this task of great importance ; then whom did our beloved Prophet SAW send to mekkah ? you conviniently omit the name ? if i were to follow your way of conjecture and speculation ; i would insert here ; why didnt the Prophet ask Imam ALi RA to go to mecca to negotiate ? Does a question as stupid as this take anything away from the Darajat of Imam ALi ? ofcourse not. Hence all your schemes and speculations wont take one iota of Darajat from Umer RA's Emal on the day of judgement. May ALLAH be pleased with all the As'hab of our beloved Prophet SAW who stood by him through thick and thin and gave him their unwavering support and open your minds to reason.
Interesting that whenever weakness of a Sahaba is mentioned People freak out. They were hums not angels and yes they made mistakes so fabricated Ahadiths so no good to raise someone’s status in history. Hz Umar RA Always got judicial help from Hz Ali AS 💕
@@UR_FAV_zaynab what progeny? Who's included and who's not ? Your fantasy beliefs of imamah is a fairytale and that ahlul bayt was only good people ! You don't even know about the ahlul baut progeny of Muhammed fighting with each other and having conflicts. Your ideology comes from qum in Iran and is a Majoosi source. Just as the Christians taking about they follow and loves Jesus The shia claims to follow ahlul bayt but doesn't even know who's included and who's not ! Your imams is a joke Nd there is no evidence at all and you lie and say its a pillar of islam and a matter of u entering paradise if u recognise the imams. I feel sorry for you being lied to ,you should really stop listen to the ayatollah in qum thT claim to be the representatives of Mahdi but still Your imams have left shia in a useless position where you don't even know how many imams there was! Was it 12 ? 4 ? 9 ? Ask the imam that supposed to be a leader but doesn't led you . What kind of imam doesn't do his work of his role of him as a imam
Firstly, why should one feel shame while critically analyzing history? Is quoting Sahih Bukhari shameful? Secondly, did the Prophet wanted him to be next to him?
@@Thaqlain he is not doing critically analysing, he nothing more than a liar translating bukhari according to his wish. Why he not go to debate to a Muslim scholar they will teach him right translation.
@@Thaqlain Shia religion alive on hatred of Abu bakar , omar, Khalid . ALI was strong and young when Abu bakar and omar where ruling. ALI was able to rebel against them but against the wishes of Iranian he always work with them like brothers. Imam Hussain can rebel against yazid but ALI can’t rebel against them?, he is try to insult ALI , what does this stupid try to proof ALI was scared of them ?, ALI was loin of ALLAH.
Yes, Ali was a better fighter. Yes, Ali had better lineage. But Umar strengthened Islam by openly leading Muslims to the kaaba for the first time in years. He did this immediately after his conversion. Also, Umar married Umm Kulthum bint Ali as attested in al-Kafi and sunni hadith books.
So you mean to say Omer May Allah have mercy on his soul sit beside on mountain and wait for the battle to end and once everything is done then he appear out of no where? What a good thought mashallah even the kid will not believe that.
Even if he retreated what's the problem ? Is there any reports of umar being by prophet Muhammad side? And then ran away from the prophet? Obviously not and that's the narrative shia ghulu try to portray! Even if he retreated there had been no problem as its not mentioned he was by the prophet side and then retreated from the prophet! It's amazing how shia always focus on these useless meaningless things by trying to degrade sahaba and make them seem bad. We don't take the righteous sahaba as infallible and mazoom! Don't force your narrative upon ours because it won't work !
@@muslimviking1234 So by that question ill assume you dnt know what happened at Ohud. He called out to his companions to stay and fight and they fled, they left him there to die alone except a few , and youre asking whats the problem? Whether by his side or not, it makes no difference, excuses, if ur in battle you look after your King(metorphoric) FIRST, they ran.... Its mentioned in Quran, why? Because its a useles event as you say? its not the last time that happened either.... We shia are not focusing or forcing anything, these narratives are in your books, if you think leaving Rasul for dead on a battlefield as a useless event then Allah help you. RIghteous sahaba and infallibilty have nothing to do with anything, another excuse....there were six or so companions who remained, for your sake ill say none masoom,(even tho one was ofc) They remained to protect whats important to them, and were obedient to his(s) commands, we the shia dnt tolerate disobedience to rasul for a second, from anyone...which is a main difference between us as muslims.Would you leave rasul(s) to die after he(s) called you not to run?For your sake hopefully not Ahk.
@@moose3136 First of all I will say Salam walikum and secondly you keep representing your self as shia while the issue is you need to understand who collected the Hadith ? And which book is most authentic in Islam that is sahih bukhari no matter what sects you believe thanks to Allah I am not in this fitna was our prophet sunni ? Shia ? What was he prophet peace be upon him called himself Muslim and so do I call my self Muslim so did Ali May Allah have mercy on his soul I don’t dare to speak bad about Ali , Omer or any other companion of prophet the Hadith which you referring please leave Shia books they wrote this Hadith after 4 imams so if you read no sahaba run away from battle they thought rock fell on our beloved prophet and he has passed away then they knew that our beloved prophet was alive they run to sacrifice themself the bottom line is me and you don’t have to argue about this subject if there was anything Allah almighty will judge Allah promised prophet that all his companions will enter in jannah every human being make mistake even prophets did prophet Adam ate the fruit did he not but Allah forgave him so if you saying sahaba run away or anyone speak bad about them remember they will enter paradise for sure but you and me will not who are we ? Do we pray on time ? Are we so perfect or scholar to say something about sahaba I love my prophet and all companions I hope you understand what my message is leave this enmity and we focus on ourself and prayer May Allah guide us all
@@straightpath944 Hmm...Wa alaikum salaam, 1.They ran away is written in Quran u dnt need a hadith book. 2.Sahih Bukhari is not an authentic book by any stretch of the imagination...many fabricated hadith in there. 3. All companions are NOT promised paradise...they killed and murdered each other..some of them are definitely in hell 4. All Prophets are Sinless...u cant compare us to them. 5.There is no respect or excuses for the ppl who disrespected Rasul and his family...none
How was Hazrat Omar then be blessed enough to be buried beside our Holy Prophet? Surely he had his own deeds that were essentially critical and helpful for our deen to spread. Our Holy Prophet surely had some dear connection to Hazrat Omar. I was expecting One only One good deed that you may have mentioned about him, infact all i heard was lessons about his fabrications. I thought that there would be some respect shown by ahle bait to hazrat Omar. Its okayy to have your interpretation, but mentioning Atleast One or two good genuine deeds from your own ahle bait perspective is what I was expecting here and hoping to find maybe something new and good to gain. Sad that all i saw here was basically self centred interpretation.
there isn't much meaning to that actually as we see that baitul haram, one of the holiest places in the world is located under the hands by some of the most ruthless in the world who probably will go to hell
The definition of low ranking tribe matters here. In the case of Prophet, while he was from a highly respectable family, he wasn't very rich nor had any worldly powers. In fact he was born orphan. Yet it was his character that allowed him to create a space in the hearts of Quraysh.
The way of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah is to love the family (ahl al-bayt) of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Naasibis love the Sahaabah but hate the family of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), hence they were called Naasibis because they set themselves up (nasb) as enemies of the family of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Raafidis are the opposite: they love the Prophet’s family (ahl al-bayt) - or so they claim, but they hate the Sahaabah, whom they curse, denounce as kaafirs and criticize. Whoever hates the Sahaabah hates Islam, because they are the bearers of Islam and the followers of the Chosen Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). So whoever hates them hates Islam, and this indicates that there is no faith in the hearts of such people and that they do not love Islam. This is an important basic principle which the Muslims should understand, namely loving and respecting the Sahaabah, because that is part of faith. Hating them or hating one of them is kufr and hypocrisy, because loving them is part of loving the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and hating them is part of hating the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
Salaam Alaykum. Even though we have responded such comments in great detail in the comments section, we are giving short response to yours as it is filled with takfir. 1) Firstly, the purpose is to historically examine different parts of the prophetic era history. You have reached a conclusion while you have only watched the 50th episode. So we will urge you to watch it entirely. 2) Your definition of Raafidi is incorrect. Nor do Shias or Raafidis, as you would like to call, hate the sahabas. Bara'at or disassociating oneself from those who went against the divine representatives of Allah is a concept well rooted in the Quran and Hadith of the Prophet. For no one do we have a hadith that he is from truth and truth is from him except for Imam Ali. So, we disassociate from those who took up sword against the truth. 3) The principle that you shared is not proved by the Quran. The Quranic verse in Surah Tawbah Allah has praised some of the companions but the next verse is filled with admonishment for some of the companions close to the Prophet. Similarly, history is filled with instances where the companions ridiculed each other, fought each other and even cursed each other. 4) Lastly, the two guiding source by the Prophet are the Quran and the Prophet's progeny (according to Sahi Muslim). Even if you take the version which mentions Sunnah, you will eventually reach Prophet's progeny because it is Sunnah to consider Imam Ali as your Mawla. Remember us in your duas :)
The famous Shia historian Ahmed ibn Abi Ya’qub ibn Jafar al Katib (d. 258/259 A.H.) in his Tarikh Ya’qubi while enumerating the sons of Sayyidina ‘Ali radiya Llahu ‘anhu lists ‘Umar ibn ‘Ali as number eleven. The text reads: و كان له من الولد الذكور أربعة عشر ذكرا الحسن و الحسين و محسن مات صغيرا أمهم فاطمة بنت رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم … و عمر أمه أم حبيب بنت ربيعة البكرية إلخ He had 14 sons viz. Hassan, Hussain, Muhassin who passed away in infancy―their mother is Fatimah bint Rasulullah salla Llahu ‘alayhi wa sallam… and ‘Umar whose mother is Umm Habib bint Rabi’ah al Bakriyyah.[1] b. The renowned Shia scholar, al Mufid (Muhammad ibn Muhammad ibn al Nu’man) (d. 413 A.H.) in his al Irshad, in the chapter of Amir al Mu’minin’s offspring, enumerates 27 children of his with their names. Beginning with Hassan and Hussain, he lists ‘Umar and Ruqayyah at number 6 and 7, considering them as twins. He writes: و عمر و رقية كانا توأمين ‘Umar and Ruqayyah were twins.[2] c. The prominent gatherer of virtues and genealogist of the Shia ‘Ali ibn ‘Isa Arbili lists 14 sons and 19 daughters of Sayyidina ‘Ali radiya Llahu ‘anhu in his book Kashf al Ghummah fi Ma’rifat al A’immah. ‘Umar ibn ‘Ali features number 13 on his list: الذكور الحسن و الحسين و محمد الأكبر عبيد الله و أبو بكر و العباس و عثمان و جعفر و عبد الله و محمد الأصغر و يحيى و عون و عمر و محمد الأوسط عليهم السلام Sons: Hassan, Hussain, Muhammad al Akbar, ‘Ubaid Allah, Abu Bakr, ‘Abbas, ‘Uthman, Jafar, ‘Abdullah, Muhammad al Asghar, Yahya, ‘Awn, ‘Umar, and Muhammad al Awsat―may peace be upon them.[3] d. Sayed Jamal al Din Ahmed ibn ‘Ali commonly known as Ibn ‘Inabah (d. 828 A.H.) mentions in section five of ‘Umdat al Talib fi Ansab Al Abi Talib: ذكر عقب عمر الأطرف بن أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام أمه الصهباء الثعلبية Discussion on the children of ‘Umar al Atraf ibn Amir al Mu’minin radiya Llahu ‘anhu. His mother is al Sahba’ al Tha’labiyyah from the captives of Yamamah.[4] e. Mulla Al Baqir Majlisi (d. 1110/1111) the legendary Shia mujtahid of the 11th century begins a chapter on the number of martyrs of the Ahlul Bayt (who were martyred on the Day of ‘Ashura’) in Jala’ al ‘Uyun (Persian). He writes: نز نفر از فرزندان امیر المؤمنین حضرت سید الشہدا و عباس و پسر او محمد و عمر و عثمان و جعفر و ابراہیم و عبد اللہ اصغر و محمد اصغر پسران امیر المومنین علیہ السلام Nine of the children of Amir al Mu’minin: Sayed al Shuhada’ (Hussain), ‘Abbas, his grandson Muhammad, ‘Umar, ‘Uthman, Jafar, Ibrahim, and ‘Abdullah Asghar and Muhammad Asghar―the grandsons of Amir al Mu’minin.[5] f. Section six of Muntaha al Amal of ‘Abbas al Qummi of the 14th century has a list of the issue of Sayyidina ‘Ali Amir al Mu’minin radiya Llahu ‘anhu: عمر و رقیہ کبری ست کہ ہر دو تن تو ام از مادر متولد شدند و مادر ایشاں ام حبیب دختر ربیعہ است ‘Umar and Ruqayyah the eldest both were born to an umm walad[6], Umm Habib bint Rabi’ah.[7] (Umm Habib is also called al Sahba’ al Tha’labiyyah.) g. ‘Abbas Qummi writes the biography of this son in Tuhfat al Ahbab: عمر بن علی بن ابی طالب کنیت اش ابو القاسم مادرش صہباء است و با رقیہ توأم بدنیا آمدہ و آنجناب بفصاحت زبان و سماحت طبع معروف بود … و او آخر کس ست از پسران امیر المومنین کہ وفات کردہ إلخ ‘Umar ibn ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib: His agnomen was Abu al Qasim. His mother was Sahba’. He entered the world as a twin with his sister Ruqayyah. He was famous for his eloquence and magnanimity. And he is the last son of Amir al Mu’minin to pass away.[8] The summary of these narrations: Sayyidina ‘Ali radiya Llahu ‘anhu had a son by the name ‘Umar. His agnomen was Abu al Qasim and his title was al Atraf. He was born as a twin with his sister Ruqayyah bint ‘Ali. Their mother’s name was al Sahba’ al Tha’labiyyah al Bakriyyah who was captured from the Banu Taghlib tribe during the Siddiqi khilafah. Her agnomen was Umm Habib. She is the daughter of Rabi’ah. She was gifted to Sayyidina ‘Ali by Sayyidina Abu Bakr radiya Llahu ‘anhuma. ‘Umar was very eloquent and magnanimous. He was the last son of Sayyidina ‘Ali radiya Llahu ‘anhu to leave this world.
Would you name your children after people that are cowards and liars. Ali, Hussain, Hassan and the blessed imams(May Allah be blessed with them) named their children Abu Bakr, Omar and Uthman as they knew these were the companions of the prophet, spread Islam, fought for Islam and preserved the Holy Quran with Allah’s permission which you quote and read today😅
So was there only one Omar is the entire Islamic history? Anyways, this link will assist you for it www.shiapen.com/comprehensive/names-of-imam-ali-sons.html
@@Thaqlain Lets make it simple so our viewers can judge. If you hated a person so much that the thought of him made you feel uncomfortable, would you name your son using "this" name. Whether the intention was naming after Omar (r) or Uthman (r) and etc. It's the mere fact and human feeling that you don't name things or let alone children after a hated person.
If the other Omar and Uthman are so much beloved to you would definitely to make their legacy live forever and pratically show that names do not matter :) The Prophet actually loved Uthman Ibn Maz'un. He is said to be childhood friend of the Prophet.
@@Thaqlain The main issue is that you are concocting lies that there was hatred among the companions of the prophet (specifically Omar, Abu Bakr, Uthman and Ali (RA) when really such stories are baseless and completely fabricated. When put in the corner, you and people that belong to your sect deflect to another topic. The simple question I ask, is would anyone in the past, present and future name their son or daughter after someone they despise? The answer is simple and if you truly believed what you are preaching you would answer truthfully. Your own sect today (Shias) do not name Omar, Abu Bakr, Uthman, Muawiya (RA))?! Based on your answer and logic there are many Omars, Abu Bakr,s Uthmans, Muawiyas let's throw in Yazeeds as well. Why? Your own sect has answered this clearly because they do not name their sons after people they despise. Where as Ali and Ahlul Bait and the the great imams have been documented in your own books that have named their children after Omar, Abu Bakr, Uthman. Why? Because to remember them as great people who learned Islam from Prophet (SAWS) and spread it to the world.
We already answered your question in detail. But if you feel that only what you know is correct and there is no alternate reality we cannot help you much. Sadly, the Muslims love caliphs more than they love Prophet and can even downgrade Prophet and his true companions for the select few 🙂
@@ashvazdanghe Christians and Jews also criticize the Prophet of Islam, but Prophet Muhammad does not criticize their Prophet because our religion respects them and they are also the Prophet of God. Your argument (rwafez) is very ridiculous
This guy is going against a companion of the Messenger. Every person with common sense should ask did prophet do so? Abubakr was his best friend and closest companion yet Shiites call him a Katie and umar as well. Ali himself was their(companions) companion til his death.
@@Thaqlain provide the verse you liar. That's right. If the quran had such a verse the Messenger wouldn't have kept them close and loved them. What should we expect from those who follow Jews rather than the Messenger and his companions.
Please check Surah Tawbah verse 101. Surah Munafiqon. Time and time again Prophet was informed that not all Muslims around him are believers. Even some wives of the Prophet were condemned at places in the Quran.
@@Thaqlain I've read it. Where did it say the sahabah were hypocrites? It does not. Among those who called themselves Muslim were some hypocrites. You don't get to lie and choose who they are. The prophet praised Abubakr, umar, uthman and many more companions. They were Muslim in Mecca. Only after Hijra did hypocrites come to be. So we know for a fact they were innocent. You still have shown zero proof or evidence. As for the wives, rebuking them is not cursing them or calling them hypocrites. When you rebuke your family do you want to kill them or punish them in a fire?
And among the bedouins around you, some are hypocrites, and so are some among the people of Al-Madinah who persist in hypocrisy; you know them not, We know them. We shall punish them twice, and thereafter they shall be brought back to a great (horrible) torment. Please read the verse again. It is very clear that some of those within the close proximity and "around Prophet" were hypocrites. And to defy your logic of blaming only the Muslims of Medina of being hypocrites, the previous verse should be enough. The Quran praised Ansar and Muhajireen together and rebuked the hypocrites amongst them together. As for wives, will you praise someone who said to the Prophet that "you have a bad smell?" Will you praise someone who broke Prophet's trust by disclosing his promise? Will you praise the one who according to Quran "collaborated against the Prophet"? Will you praise the one whom Quran said that "Allah will replace them with better"? Sadly, some Muslims can easily belittle Prophet but when it comes to the caliphs and their daughters have all sorts of strange logics. We rest our case.
All pure conjecture and speculation ; only for Bughuz of Umar. i Pity your soul . May Allah open your heart and minds to truth. Imam Ali RA wasnt an enemy of them and you who claim complete obedience to Imam ALI RA go against his conduct in his life. So Yeah, i pity you.
Where has the scholar said that Imam Ali considered them as enemies? Or we consider them as our enemies? Jumping to conclusions and giving sectarian touch to a series while only listening to episodes and parts that suits you tells a lot about your motives and desires 🙂
What excuse could I find for those Companions who had spent nearly twenty years with the Messenger of Allah, from the start of the Mission to the day of al-Hudaibiyah, and had seen all the miracles and enlightenment of the Prophethood? Furthermore the Qur'an was teaching them day and night how they should behave in the presence of the Messenger, and how they should talk to him, to the extent that Allah had threatened to ruin their deeds if they raised their voices above his voice. Allah knows well we are not to judge any one of it. its Him Allah who judge All..
There is no attack. This is the 50th episode and there are episodes filled with praise of companions and wives. It seems you reached a conclusion too quickly. On a side note, Tabari, Bukhari and others have attacked more on the Prophet but we never see such agitation from Muslims 🙂🙏🏼
@@Thaqlain Why did ali ibn abi talib worked with these people if they were bad people why was he praying behind them why was he a minister and judge in their goverment
th-cam.com/video/DxD2-a3vju0/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/_Pw4l6PqqrU/w-d-xo.html Imam Ali was not minister or judge. He advised and corrected them where required. And these two clips will allow you to understand why he did so 🙂🙏🏼
But why Shia you only come out with hateful preaching. We are tired of it leave the swahabas they died long time ago and they did what they could. Don't judge them, let them be judged by Allah.
They redicule the sahabas. You are luck brother. You were born muslim but these sahaba endured the difficulties from the start. Is not like you and me brother! You should be very careful. Omar did great job compare to other sahaba, even the non muslims during those times mentioned in their books. No ali no whoever you know. Allah knows best
1. Those who do not Befriend Abu Bakr and ‘Umar will Not Receive Rasulullah’s salla Llahu ‘alayhi wa sallam Intercession عن سالم بن أبي حفصة قال قال جعفر بن محمد رضي الله عنه أبو بكر جدي أفيسب الرجل جده لا نالتني شفاعة محمد إن لم أكن أتولاهما و أبرأ من عدوهما Salim ibn Abi Hafsah reports that Jafar ibn Muhammad rahimahu Llah said: Abu Bakr is my grandfather. Does anyone swear at his grandfather? May I not receive Muhammad’s intercession if I do not befriend them and dissociate from their enemies.[1]
And you call yourself Sayyed? May ALLAH guide you and all of us. If you can’t help the MUSLIM UMMAH unite despite our differences, then at least keep your mouth shut please 🙏
Jafar Al-Sadiq on Abu Bakr and Umar It is reported from Sālim b. Abī Ḥafṣah: I asked Abū Jaʿfar and his son Jaʿfar (Al-Ṣādiq) about Abū Bakr and ʿUmar, so he replied, “O Sālim, love and ally yourself with them, and dissociate yourself from their enemy, for they were imāms of guidance.” Then he said, “O Sālim, would a man revile his own grandfather? Abū Bakr is a grandfather of mine. May the intercession of Muḥammad ﷺ not reach me on the Day of Resurrection if I do not love and ally myself with them and disassociate from their enemy.” Al-Dhahabī, Siyar ʾAʿlām Al-Nubalāʾ 6:258.
It's funny how they always mentions the gossip of Umar r.a. ran away in the battlefield as even if it was true there had been no issues to it as retreating is not an bad thing! But let's stop for a moment and focus on the great imam of your time , The owner of time whom you claim control every atom in the universe, That can make a dua and make the groundshake and start earthquakes, The imam mahdi that is so powerful but ran away from some few men and has been hiding every sense 🤣🤣🤣 Why did your srong and brave imam ran away? Wasn't he supposed to follow the command of Allah ? Why didn't he fight right he could had become a shahid right 😉 ! Just let's stop this nonsense talking about things That doesn't matter and come back to the real importance of the quran which shia has gone the complete opposite and even claim is Changed and tampered with. How shameful as you claim the quran has been changed and that uthman put in his own and removed others but still you have the Mushaf uthman in your house and kiss it and put it on your foreheads 🤣 Yaa sindiik your ghulu is on the highest level and your fantasy of these invisible imams that has been hiding in a cave or a basement and is talking with the Iranian ayatollahs and give them directions from the basement as they claim being the representatives of the imam ! This stinks and even bollywood wouldn't be able to invent the stories and lies the shia has invented. It's just sad that the good shias has to be tricked into these ayatollah extremism pumping out from qom.
This has been already mentioned in detail by the Imam Mahdi series by Sayed Ahmed Qazwini. You may also refer to Mahdi by Sayed Muneer al-Khabbaz. Secondly, when an army or a soldier retreats, their aim is to collect themselves to attack the enemy again; not to wait till the war ends 🙂
Surely we are more than 1400 years after the companions and Islam. These are Great Sahabas all of them, whether Ahlul bait or not. It is not a good idea to be negative about them and interpret everything on them the wrong way. Why should we reject the Sahih Hadiths just to make some sahabas who Wallahi they were greater than all of us. Moreover, we have to be positive because we don't know the truth since we are much away from these generations. Again why should we engage in such small divisions that non muslims take advantage of. Let us refrain our tongue from these subjects for sure it is not important. It only divides us more and more..... Lets all follow the Qur'an and the sunnah of the Prophet (SAW) and seek the guidance of Allah SWT
This isn’t Disney world there are real issues that we have to address about the history of the sahabas because many people get their religious doctrine from them, to turn a blind eye would be ignorant
@@LoyalMinion I understand your point but Allah has given us the guide, Quran through his prophet SAW and in addition the Sunnah of the prophet. People are arguing about something small like the character of this sahaba is superior or inferior to another sahaba. It is good to love and follow the sahaba example but we have what they themselves used to follow The Furqan which guides us to the key pillars of the religion. Therefore discussing such a small matter and arguing and hating each other about it is absolutely unnecessary as to my opinion. For we are all muslims and brothers in faith. Let us not be divided by small matters like this as long as we have the Quran to follow. Maybe we may make mistakes and dishonour extremely someone who is dear to Allah in this process. Therefore just being positive of the any muslim, the companions included is a good idea for we are not taking risks of saying or teaching something that is not true in the case.
On the day of Judgement, I would rather be on the side of the Prophet (Pbuh) and his Ahlulbayt. Versus the side of his fake “companions” who wanted nothing but power after the Prophet passed away.
@@SalAnwar Yeah, I guess the Prophet was 'joking' when he named the blessed 10 guaranteed Jannah and those who gave bayah to him in Sulah e Hudaybiyah. Keep having fake dreams.
Salaam brother. We can’t just stay positive because we don’t know the truth. The truth is out there you just need to look for it and connect the dots. Go back further in history with Issa, who betrayed him ? His closest companion did. So what makes it difficult for Muhammad’s companions not to ? As a matter of fact go look in the Quran where Allah warns the prophet in so many occasions of the hypocrites and those who act like they’re close but aren’t. Who is Allah talking about think with an open mind, people who probably are close to him. Eg 63:3 When the hypocrites come to you they say: 'We bear witness that you are the Messenger of Allah'. Allah knows that you are His Messenger, and Allah bears witness that the hypocrites are liars. They have made their oaths as a shield and turn [people] away from Allah. Evil indeed is that which they do! That is because they believed and then disbelieved. Their hearts were sealed and they do not understand" Regarding following the Quran and sunnah there’s no where in the Sunni authentic books saying Quran and sunnah, but it says Quran and Ahlulbayt. But we do agree sunnah has to be followed of the prophet, and we get them from the Ahlulbayt. We can’t come to conclusions that why should we talk about them and Allah knows best and all. Brother if Allah is Adil than I expect him not to favour mistakes of a companion of the prophet just because he was a companion. Don’t make sense to me in the right mind, they will all be accountable for their deeds. You need to search for the actual message and teachings of the holy prophet pbuh & his family. Not just say I do the wajibats so all this doesn’t matter and Allah knows best ! Yes Allah knows best but it does matter for me to find my prophets actual religion, go do your research on how Abubakar and Omar treated Fatema the lady of the heavens according to the same prophet. And the same prophet said whoever angers Fatema has angered me and whoever angers the prophet angers Allah. And the authentic Sunni hadith say Fatema died angry with Abubakr. That should answer you also why did the prophet warn about that and why did he mention to Ali & Fatema that they will face a tough time after him and they should have patience. Who gave them the tough time ? Coincidence ? There’s so much I could write but it’s a mission typing. All I’d say is find the right thing as what Allah told us through the prophet is Iqra. Read. He never said listen and just believe. Everything is available it’s just the effort of searching the truth. And brother I’ll tell you if you wanna get closer to the religion of Allah that was sent to Muhammad, than there’s no better way than the Ahlulbayt. You’ll even love Islam more. Welcome to the twelvers Shia of Ali. Have a great day brother🙏🏼
@Thaqlain when you talk about the history of Islam, you should try to unit. Special when you know that these videos have the potential to reach a diverse audience, Muslims and non Muslims. The way you talk about Umar RA is like he was just a foot soldier. I know that as a Shia, you have a bais, but Shi'ism was not there at the time of Prophet Muhammad PBUH. The episode that was about the battle of the trench, you said that it was the shia of Ali RA that helped the prophet PBUH the most while others were just being lazy. Please try and teach the actual history, not a bais one.
JazakAllah for sharing your thoughts. We understand where you are coming from. However, please note that none of the narrations mentioned in this episode are from the Shia scholars. So there is no biasness here. Sadly, it is the Sunni scholars that rely more on the narrations forged by Ummayyads while ignoring the other narrations found in their own books Secondly, as far as existence of Shias are concerned, they did exist during the time of the Prophet. We have hadiths narrated by both schools that some companions were referred to as "Shia of Ali" during the time of the Prophet. Some notable ones include Salman, Abu Dharr and Ammar.
This is the 50th episode of this series. And it seems it is the only one you have listened to. Secondly, we understand that things mentioned here are new for you, but that doesn't mean it is an attempt to disrespect or is rubbish.
Salaam Alaykum. Thanks for dropping by. Firstly, we will request you not to take this episode in a silo and instead at least listen from the beginning of this chapter before you reach a conclusion. Secondly, once you will listen to this series entirely, you will find that sadly Muslim scholars have said much more about the Prophet. Sadly, we don't see such agitation in that case. Thirdly, nothing in this episode is said without references. This is a research-based series and we understand things mentioned here might be new for you but there is nothing that is presented as the opinion of the scholar.
@@Thaqlain W/salaam there is nothing you say can make me hate Abubakar, Omar, Uthman and Aisha (ummul mumineen) May Allah be pleased with them all. Islam is where it is today bcos Allah's will and Omar's effort and generosity. I can quote many references and two or three days would not be enough to talk about how great man Omar Ibn Al khattab was.
The last thing we would want is to instil hate. The aim of this series is just to present things as they are. Without adding any opinions or hidden agenda.
Convert to Islam I hate the devil Omar be wise he killed the prophet, stole fadak killed Fatima. He refused to obey the dying prophet, by not joining usamas army. Oh Allah curse omar
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Why are all the Sunni brothers here pressed? What was said is factual from your own Sunni books and the best the Sunni brothers can say is "look at how he's cursing Umar" brothers there's absolutely no cursing here stop accusing and everything that was said are from your own books if you disagree then you're ultimately disagreeing with your own literature.
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It is startling how emotional people get when Omar character is questioned and how quiet they are when Mohamad ﷺ Ali(as) and Fatima(sa) character are questioned. Before you all get triggered look at the Sunni tafseer of Surrat Ab'basa. I would never suggest that my sunni brothers & sisters are corrupt or have bad intentions, I am mearly stating that there has been a historical corruption because of political considerations. Now this does not just apply to Sunni beliefs, it is just as prevalent within the Shi'a community. That said, if you hold onto the Book & the Ahl alBayt (as instructed), not just love them but truly follow their leads in practice and character then you shall never go astray.
JazakAllah for this wholesome comment.
Thank you so much for all the knowledge Thaqlain & Sayed Baqer Qazwini ⚘️🖤 Allh swt bless and protect you always
I love how he analyses everything so objectively without any personal opinion. Goes to show how well informed he is about what he talks about. I love this series. His analysis of the Prophet's life too is the perfect biography we were deprived of growing up. Thank you for this amazing series!
I have no idea why shias spend their time attacking the companions and the wives of the prophet peace be up him and at the same time claim they love ahlul bayt peace be up on them
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@@shinemalin1853 without any hard feelings I would invite you to read Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim about all of these events. Particularly the time right after the Prophet's passing. You'll see why we say what we say :)
@@sarahaider5604 and bukhari and muslim say nothing bad about any of the companions and the wives if the prophet peace be up on him so you may need to read it so that you can understand
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Please state the references in Bukhari as I’m unable to find them.
Salam Alaykum,
A great discussion and eye-opening observation. Is it possible to get the reference of the hadith mentioned from Bukhari? I'm a newbie trying to get historical facts straight, would be much appreciated if a reference could be shared.
Jazak ALLAH
Found it in the comments section! Thank you!
While `Umar was at home in a state of fear, there came Al-`As bin Wail As-Sahmi Abu `Amr, wearing an embroidered cloak and a shirt having silk hems. He was from the tribe of Bani Sahm who were our allies during the pre-Islamic period of ignorance. Al-`As said to `Umar "What is wrong with you?" He said, "Your people claim that they would kill me if I become a Muslim." Al-`As said, "Nobody will harm you after I have given protection to you." So Al-`As went out and met the people streaming in the whole valley. He said, "Where are you going?" They said, "We want Ibn Al-Khattab who has embraced Islam." Al-`As said, "There is no way for anybody to touch him." So the people retreated.
Ref: sunnah.com/bukhari:3864
Alaykum Salaam. It is 3864 in the online version.
Amr ibn Hisham
عَمْر ابْنِ هشام Abu Jahl
Does anyone know the hadith number in Bukhari where al-‘As Ibn Wa’il gives protection to ‘Umar?
3864
@@Thaqlain thank you!
Sayyidina Hassan radiya Llahu ‘anhu also named one of his sons ‘Umar. Similarly, the Shia have listed one of the sons of Sayyidina Hussain radiya Llahu ‘anhu as ‘Umar. Likewise, Zayn al ‘abidin named one of his children after ‘Umar.
Sayyidina ‘Umar’s radiya Llahu ‘anhu name featuring among the children of Sayyidina ‘Ali radiya Llahu ‘anhu, generation after generation, is nothing accidental or coincidental, nor a once off happening. This was an authentic reality and practice which remained among the Imams.
This proves with no uncertainty that there existed love, compassion, friendship, unity, etc., between Sayyidina ‘Ali and Sayyidina ‘Umar radiya Llahu ‘anhuma. There was no type of personal, religious, or political hatred, animosity, distaste, opposition, or enmity.
To prove this matter, the upcoming narrations are strong evidences. We will present quotations verbatim from books regarded reliable by the Shia seniors.
This aspect was discussed with detail in the seventh section of chapter five of the Siddiqi section and citations from both Sunni and Shia books were reproduced. We will suffice here on reproducing from Shia books for purposes of brevity.
The below references and quotes are from authentic Shia imams and hadeeths. Why don’t you share this with your followers. Be the “Farook” and don’t be afraid and say the truth.
They are thirsty for truth so come to listen to followers of ahlulbayt speak it, whether they despise it or not.
5:30 Abu Jahl's name was Amr ibn Hisham (la)
You can feel the hatred, envy and jealousy from this man. Go back to the facts. Omar (r) was in fact the ambassador of the tribe of Qurash. So his conversion in Islam was a blessing and strength for Islam that Allah ordained from 7 skies. The angels celebrated in the sky on the conversion of Omar as the prophet reported. Stop spreading lies and deception. The non Muslims classify Omar(r) as one the world’s greatest leaders. And now we have this no body assessing the “conduct of Omar” FYI your predecessors killed and back stabbed Ali(r) and Hussein(r) which resulted to their death. Go back to your books and Imam Jafar Al Sadick.
Yes everyone celebrated Omar's conversion except Omar himself. JazakAllah for dropping by. But if one has decided he already has knowledge and he will only listen what he/she wishes to listen then there is no discussion that can take place. Then one begins to reject authentic hadiths of Bukhari because they don't suit him but accepts the weaker ones as he/she likes them.
Ibn Masoud said about Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) embracing Islam, “We remained strong after Umar embraced Islam” [related by Al-Bukhari]. He also said, “We were not able to pray at the Kaaba until Umar entered Islam. When Umar entered Islam, he fought Quraysh until he could pray at the Kaaba, and we prayed with him” [related by Al-Bukhari].
The same Bukhari shares the fears of Omar after becoming Muslim. So which Bukhari to follow? Also, all Muslims agree that Prophet used to pray at the grand mosque way before the Islam of Omar. Please check the episode The First Three Muslims for details.
@@Thaqlain So is it wrong to have fears and at the same time be strong? I don't get your point.
At one place you are so strong that the whole community was able to pray in front of Kaaba but on the other hand you have so much fear that you are not ready to get out of your home and need a guarantor for yourself. If this logically make sense to you then definitely it is possible.
Btw Muslims used to pray at Kaaba from the first year of Islam. Check the episode the first three Muslims. The problem with these stories is that they are self contradictory.
Abu Hakam name was Amr ibn Hisham
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Jazak Allah Khair Moulana
فقال يا ابن رسول الله ما تقول في حق أبي بكر و عمر فقال عليه السلام هما إمامان عادلان قاسطان كانا على الحق و ماتا عليه فعليهما رحمة الله يوم القيامة
He asked, “O son of Rasulullah salla Llahu ‘alayhi wa sallam! What do you say about Abu Bakr and ‘Umar?”
He replied, “They were just and fair leaders. They remained upon the truth and died upon the same. May Allah’s mercy be upon them on the Day of Qiyamah.”[2]
و المروي عن جعفر بن محمد أنه كان يتولاهما و يأتي القبر فيسلم عليهما مع تسليمه على رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم
It is reported that Jafar ibn Muhammad befriended them and would approach the grave and greet them when he greeted Rasulullah salla Llahu ‘alayhi wa sallam.[3]
The scholars should also be notified that the author of al Shafi Sayed Murtada ‘Alam al Huda could not come up with any sensible answer to this. At the end, he was constrained to present the ancient solution of Taqiyyah.
In Usul al Kafi, book on proof, chapter on the decision taken between the claim of truth and falsehood in the matter of Imamah, Muhammad ibn Ya’qub al Kulayni records an incident of condolence which makes mention of ‘Umar ibn ‘Ali ibn al Hussain. The text is:
عن عبد الله بن إبراهيم بن محمد الجعفري قال أتينا خديجة بنت عمر بن علي بن الحسين بن علي بن أبي طالب عليهم السلام نعزيها بابن بنتها فوجدنا عندها موسى بن عبد الله بن الحسن فإذا هي في ناحية قريبا من النساء فعزيناها
‘Abdullah ibn Ibrahim ibn Muhammad al Jafari reports:
We came to Khadijah bint ‘Umar ibn ‘Ali ibn al Hussain ibn ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib radiya Llahu ‘anhum to give her condolence over the death of her nephew. We found Musa ibn ‘Abdullah ibn al Hassan by her. She was in the corner close to the women. We conveyed our condolences to her.[14]
b. In the chapter of the children of ‘Ali ibn al Hussain, Mufid lists 15 of his children, viz. Muhammad al Baqir, ‘Abdullah, Hassan, Hussain, Zaid, ‘Umar, Hussain al Asghar, ‘Abdul Rahman, Sulaiman, ‘Ali, etc. ‘Umar’s name appears sixth on the list. After the 10 sons, the daughters were listed.[15]
c. ‘Ali ibn ‘Isa al Arbili lists the names of Zayn al ‘Abidin’s children. He lists Muhammad al Baqir first, Zaid second, and ‘Umar third. (Zaid and ‘Umar’s mother was an Umm Walad.)[16]
d. There is mention of ‘Umar ibn Zayn al ‘Abidin in ‘Umdat al Talib.[17]
e. ‘Abbas al Qummi has written in Muntaha al Amal while discussing the children of Zayn al ‘abidin:
… زید و عمر از ام ولد دیگر إلخ
Zaid and ‘Umar from another Umm Walad.[18]
f. The same author lists Zayn al ‘Abidin’s son ‘Umar al Ashraf while enumerating all individuals with the name ‘Umar in Tuhfat al Ahbab. He praises and compliments him extensively. He says:
عمر از فضلاۓ تابعین و جلیل القدر صاحب ورع و والی صدقات پیغمبر و امیر المؤمنین بودہ إلخ
‘Umar was among the distinguished Tabi’in, a man of dignity, abstinence, and administrator of the charity of Rasulullah salla Llahu ‘alayhi wa sallam and Amir al Mu’minin.[19]
Ahmed ibn Ya’qub ibn Jafar states that Sayyidina Hassan radiya Llahu ‘anhu had 8 sons. His third son was ‘Umar.
و كان للحسن من الولد ثمانية ذكور و هم الحسن بن الحسن (المثنى) و أمه خولة بنت منظور الفزارية و زيد بن الحسن و أمه أم بشر بنت أبي مسعود الأنصاري الخزرجي و عمر و القاسم و أبو بكر و عبد الرحمن لأمهات أولاد شتى و طلحة و عبيد الله
Hassan had eight sons. They are: Hassan ibn al Hassan (al Muthanna) whose mother is Khawlah bint Manzur al Fazariyyah; Zaid ibn al Hassan whose mother is Umm Bishr bint Abi Mas’ud al Ansari al Khazraji; ‘Umar, Qasim, Abu Bakr, and ‘Abdul Rahman―from various umm walads; Talhah and ‘Ubaid Allah.[9]
b. Mufid as well as al Arbili have dedicated a section to the biography of Hassan (al Muthanna) ibn al Imam al Hassan radiya Llahu ‘anhu wherein he lists ‘Umar ibn al Hassan as one of Hassan al Muthanna’s sons as well as Abu Bakr ibn al Hassan.[10]
c. Ibn ‘Inabah has enumerated Zaid, Hassan al Muthanna, ‘Abdullah (whose agnomen is Abu Bakr), ‘Umar, etc. as the sons of Sayyidina Hassan radiya Llahu ‘anhu.[11]
d. Mulla Al Baqir Majlisi lists the martyrs of Karbala’ in Jala’ al ‘Uyun:
و چہار نفر از فرزندان امام حسن ابو بکر و عبد اللہ و قاسم و بشر و بعضے بجاۓ بشر عمر گفتہ اند و از فرزندان امام حسین آنچہ مشہور ست علی اکبر و عبد اللہ کہ در کنار حضرت شہید شد و بعضی ابراہیم و محمد و حمزہ و علی دیگر و جعفر و عمر و زید گفتہ اند
Four from the sons of Imam Hassan, viz. Abu Bakr, ‘Abdullah, Qasim, and Bishr. Some have substituted Bishr with ‘Umar. And from the sons of Imam Hussain, these are the famous figures ‘Ali Akbar, ‘Abdullah who was martyred alongside him, Ibrahim, Muhammad, Hamzah, ‘Ali the second, Jafar, ‘Umar, and Zaid.[12]
e. ‘Abbas al Qummi states while discussing the children of Imam Hassan radiya Llahu ‘anhu:
عمر بن الحسن و دو برادر اعیانی او قاسم و عبد اللہ و مادر ایشاں ام ولد ست
‘Umar ibn al Hassan and two full brothers Qasim and ‘Abdullah. Their mother was an Umm Walad.[13]
During the embargo by Qurays in three years where is Umar where abouts,??? History kept quite about the constribution of Umar towsrds Bani Hasyim during the three years of the Prophet (s) n Bani Hasyim sufferings!!!.
History is quite because it did not find any contribution of the "pillar of strength for Muslims".
My question is to you
1 If you believe that Our prophet Muhammad is the prophet of Allah the please answer my question
Why prophet Muhammad appoint Omar Ibn Al Khattab the second Caliph or khalifa ?
Why ? Please answer me .
The Prophet did not 🙂
@14:51 please narrate the whole story, not the bits and pieces that please you. If supposedly Hazrat Umer refused this task of great importance ; then whom did our beloved Prophet SAW send to mekkah ? you conviniently omit the name ? if i were to follow your way of conjecture and speculation ; i would insert here ; why didnt the Prophet ask Imam ALi RA to go to mecca to negotiate ? Does a question as stupid as this take anything away from the Darajat of Imam ALi ? ofcourse not. Hence all your schemes and speculations wont take one iota of Darajat from Umer RA's Emal on the day of judgement. May ALLAH be pleased with all the As'hab of our beloved Prophet SAW who stood by him through thick and thin and gave him their unwavering support and open your minds to reason.
Ameen 🙂
Interesting that whenever weakness of a Sahaba is mentioned People freak out. They were hums not angels and yes they made mistakes so fabricated Ahadiths so no good to raise someone’s status in history. Hz Umar RA Always got judicial help from Hz Ali AS 💕
May Allah bless all our Sunni brothers a place under feet of Hz Umar & Shia under the Progeny of Prophet sawws aamen
@@UR_FAV_zaynab what progeny? Who's included and who's not ?
Your fantasy beliefs of imamah is a fairytale and that ahlul bayt was only good people !
You don't even know about the ahlul baut progeny of Muhammed fighting with each other and having conflicts.
Your ideology comes from qum in Iran and is a Majoosi source. Just as the Christians taking about they follow and loves Jesus
The shia claims to follow ahlul bayt but doesn't even know who's included and who's not !
Your imams is a joke Nd there is no evidence at all and you lie and say its a pillar of islam and a matter of u entering paradise if u recognise the imams. I feel sorry for you being lied to ,you should really stop listen to the ayatollah in qum thT claim to be the representatives of Mahdi but still Your imams have left shia in a useless position where you don't even know how many imams there was!
Was it 12 ? 4 ? 9 ? Ask the imam that supposed to be a leader but doesn't led you . What kind of imam doesn't do his work of his role of him as a imam
Allah bless him and omar is next to prophet in grave . Shame on you.
Firstly, why should one feel shame while critically analyzing history? Is quoting Sahih Bukhari shameful? Secondly, did the Prophet wanted him to be next to him?
@@Thaqlain he is not doing critically analysing, he nothing more than a liar translating bukhari according to his wish. Why he not go to debate to a Muslim scholar they will teach him right translation.
You may check Bukhari yourself 🙂🙏🏼
@@Thaqlain Shia religion alive on hatred of Abu bakar , omar, Khalid . ALI was strong and young when Abu bakar and omar where ruling. ALI was able to rebel against them but against the wishes of Iranian he always work with them like brothers. Imam Hussain can rebel against yazid but ALI can’t rebel against them?, he is try to insult ALI , what does this stupid try to proof ALI was scared of them ?, ALI was loin of ALLAH.
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Answer is in these 🙂
What is the benefit of being buried in Madinah (Jannatal Baqi)
absolutely nothing
Each land has its blessings. But at the end of the day, what matters are our acts.
May Allah guide the enemies of the sahabah, and if guidance is not for them, then may Allah SWT destroy the enemies of the sahabah
What you are saying is against the Quran. May Allah protect us from saying such statements 🙂
Yes, Ali was a better fighter. Yes, Ali had better lineage.
But Umar strengthened Islam by openly leading Muslims to the kaaba for the first time in years. He did this immediately after his conversion.
Also, Umar married Umm Kulthum bint Ali as attested in al-Kafi and sunni hadith books.
Yes, Umar was even better than prophet for you.
Ali was only just a soldier.
May Allah have mercy on all of us.
Muslims used to pray at Kaaba from year one. So this story is a fabricated one. The same goes for Umar marrying Umm Kulthum bint Ali. 🙂
So you mean to say Omer May Allah have mercy on his soul sit beside on mountain and wait for the battle to end and once everything is done then he appear out of no where? What a good thought mashallah even the kid will not believe that.
Do you believe he left the Prophet (S) alone at Ohud?
Even if he retreated what's the problem ? Is there any reports of umar being by prophet Muhammad side?
And then ran away from the prophet? Obviously not and that's the narrative shia ghulu try to portray!
Even if he retreated there had been no problem as its not mentioned he was by the prophet side and
then retreated from the prophet! It's amazing how shia always focus on these useless meaningless things by trying to degrade sahaba and make them seem bad. We don't take the righteous sahaba as infallible and mazoom!
Don't force your narrative upon ours because it won't work !
@@muslimviking1234 So by that question ill assume you dnt know what happened at Ohud. He called out to his companions to stay and fight and they fled, they left him there to die alone except a few , and youre asking whats the problem? Whether by his side or not, it makes no difference, excuses, if ur in battle you look after your King(metorphoric) FIRST, they ran....
Its mentioned in Quran, why? Because its a useles event as you say? its not the last time that happened either....
We shia are not focusing or forcing anything, these narratives are in your books, if you think leaving Rasul for dead on a battlefield as a useless event then Allah help you. RIghteous sahaba and infallibilty have nothing to do with anything, another excuse....there were six or so companions who remained, for your sake ill say none masoom,(even tho one was ofc) They remained to protect whats important to them, and were obedient to his(s) commands, we the shia dnt tolerate disobedience to rasul for a second, from anyone...which is a main difference between us as muslims.Would you leave rasul(s) to die after he(s) called you not to run?For your sake hopefully not Ahk.
@@moose3136 First of all I will say Salam walikum and secondly you keep representing your self as shia while the issue is you need to understand who collected the Hadith ? And which book is most authentic in Islam that is sahih bukhari no matter what sects you believe thanks to Allah I am not in this fitna was our prophet sunni ? Shia ? What was he prophet peace be upon him called himself Muslim and so do I call my self Muslim so did Ali May Allah have mercy on his soul I don’t dare to speak bad about Ali , Omer or any other companion of prophet the Hadith which you referring please leave Shia books they wrote this Hadith after 4 imams so if you read no sahaba run away from battle they thought rock fell on our beloved prophet and he has passed away then they knew that our beloved prophet was alive they run to sacrifice themself the bottom line is me and you don’t have to argue about this subject if there was anything Allah almighty will judge Allah promised prophet that all his companions will enter in jannah every human being make mistake even prophets did prophet Adam ate the fruit did he not but Allah forgave him so if you saying sahaba run away or anyone speak bad about them remember they will enter paradise for sure but you and me will not who are we ? Do we pray on time ? Are we so perfect or scholar to say something about sahaba I love my prophet and all companions I hope you understand what my message is leave this enmity and we focus on ourself and prayer May Allah guide us all
@@straightpath944 Hmm...Wa alaikum salaam,
1.They ran away is written in Quran u dnt need a hadith book.
2.Sahih Bukhari is not an authentic book by any stretch of the imagination...many fabricated hadith in there.
3. All companions are NOT promised paradise...they killed and murdered each other..some of them are definitely in hell
4. All Prophets are Sinless...u cant compare us to them.
5.There is no respect or excuses for the ppl who disrespected Rasul and his family...none
How was Hazrat Omar then be blessed enough to be buried beside our Holy Prophet?
Surely he had his own deeds that were essentially critical and helpful for our deen to spread. Our Holy Prophet surely had some dear connection to Hazrat Omar.
I was expecting One only One good deed that you may have mentioned about him, infact all i heard was lessons about his fabrications.
I thought that there would be some respect shown by ahle bait to hazrat Omar.
Its okayy to have your interpretation, but mentioning Atleast One or two good genuine deeds from your own ahle bait perspective is what I was expecting here and hoping to find maybe something new and good to gain.
Sad that all i saw here was basically self centred interpretation.
Do your own research and you will find everything in your books everything he said is in your books brother
Him being buried there has nothing to do with the Prophet saws himself or Islam.
Much research needed brother from your books.
Being buried beside the Prophet SA doesn't mean he'll go to heaven
there isn't much meaning to that actually as we see that baitul haram, one of the holiest places in the world is located under the hands by some of the most ruthless in the world who probably will go to hell
Can't Allah pick a person from a low ranking tribe and elavate him to his purpose?. Jews had the same argument in rejecting the arab prophet.
The definition of low ranking tribe matters here. In the case of Prophet, while he was from a highly respectable family, he wasn't very rich nor had any worldly powers. In fact he was born orphan. Yet it was his character that allowed him to create a space in the hearts of Quraysh.
Oh caliph Omar RA your enemies are still beating & weeping
The way of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah is to love the family (ahl al-bayt) of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
The Naasibis love the Sahaabah but hate the family of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), hence they were called Naasibis because they set themselves up (nasb) as enemies of the family of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
The Raafidis are the opposite: they love the Prophet’s family (ahl al-bayt) - or so they claim, but they hate the Sahaabah, whom they curse, denounce as kaafirs and criticize.
Whoever hates the Sahaabah hates Islam, because they are the bearers of Islam and the followers of the Chosen Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). So whoever hates them hates Islam, and this indicates that there is no faith in the hearts of such people and that they do not love Islam.
This is an important basic principle which the Muslims should understand, namely loving and respecting the Sahaabah, because that is part of faith. Hating them or hating one of them is kufr and hypocrisy, because loving them is part of loving the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and hating them is part of hating the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
Salaam Alaykum. Even though we have responded such comments in great detail in the comments section, we are giving short response to yours as it is filled with takfir.
1) Firstly, the purpose is to historically examine different parts of the prophetic era history. You have reached a conclusion while you have only watched the 50th episode. So we will urge you to watch it entirely.
2) Your definition of Raafidi is incorrect. Nor do Shias or Raafidis, as you would like to call, hate the sahabas. Bara'at or disassociating oneself from those who went against the divine representatives of Allah is a concept well rooted in the Quran and Hadith of the Prophet. For no one do we have a hadith that he is from truth and truth is from him except for Imam Ali. So, we disassociate from those who took up sword against the truth.
3) The principle that you shared is not proved by the Quran. The Quranic verse in Surah Tawbah Allah has praised some of the companions but the next verse is filled with admonishment for some of the companions close to the Prophet. Similarly, history is filled with instances where the companions ridiculed each other, fought each other and even cursed each other.
4) Lastly, the two guiding source by the Prophet are the Quran and the Prophet's progeny (according to Sahi Muslim). Even if you take the version which mentions Sunnah, you will eventually reach Prophet's progeny because it is Sunnah to consider Imam Ali as your Mawla.
Remember us in your duas :)
The famous Shia historian Ahmed ibn Abi Ya’qub ibn Jafar al Katib (d. 258/259 A.H.) in his Tarikh Ya’qubi while enumerating the sons of Sayyidina ‘Ali radiya Llahu ‘anhu lists ‘Umar ibn ‘Ali as number eleven. The text reads:
و كان له من الولد الذكور أربعة عشر ذكرا الحسن و الحسين و محسن مات صغيرا أمهم فاطمة بنت رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم … و عمر أمه أم حبيب بنت ربيعة البكرية إلخ
He had 14 sons viz. Hassan, Hussain, Muhassin who passed away in infancy―their mother is Fatimah bint Rasulullah salla Llahu ‘alayhi wa sallam… and ‘Umar whose mother is Umm Habib bint Rabi’ah al Bakriyyah.[1]
b. The renowned Shia scholar, al Mufid (Muhammad ibn Muhammad ibn al Nu’man) (d. 413 A.H.) in his al Irshad, in the chapter of Amir al Mu’minin’s offspring, enumerates 27 children of his with their names. Beginning with Hassan and Hussain, he lists ‘Umar and Ruqayyah at number 6 and 7, considering them as twins. He writes:
و عمر و رقية كانا توأمين
‘Umar and Ruqayyah were twins.[2]
c. The prominent gatherer of virtues and genealogist of the Shia ‘Ali ibn ‘Isa Arbili lists 14 sons and 19 daughters of Sayyidina ‘Ali radiya Llahu ‘anhu in his book Kashf al Ghummah fi Ma’rifat al A’immah. ‘Umar ibn ‘Ali features number 13 on his list:
الذكور الحسن و الحسين و محمد الأكبر عبيد الله و أبو بكر و العباس و عثمان و جعفر و عبد الله و محمد الأصغر و يحيى و عون و عمر و محمد الأوسط عليهم السلام
Sons: Hassan, Hussain, Muhammad al Akbar, ‘Ubaid Allah, Abu Bakr, ‘Abbas, ‘Uthman, Jafar, ‘Abdullah, Muhammad al Asghar, Yahya, ‘Awn, ‘Umar, and Muhammad al Awsat―may peace be upon them.[3]
d. Sayed Jamal al Din Ahmed ibn ‘Ali commonly known as Ibn ‘Inabah (d. 828 A.H.) mentions in section five of ‘Umdat al Talib fi Ansab Al Abi Talib:
ذكر عقب عمر الأطرف بن أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام أمه الصهباء الثعلبية
Discussion on the children of ‘Umar al Atraf ibn Amir al Mu’minin radiya Llahu ‘anhu. His mother is al Sahba’ al Tha’labiyyah from the captives of Yamamah.[4]
e. Mulla Al Baqir Majlisi (d. 1110/1111) the legendary Shia mujtahid of the 11th century begins a chapter on the number of martyrs of the Ahlul Bayt (who were martyred on the Day of ‘Ashura’) in Jala’ al ‘Uyun (Persian). He writes:
نز نفر از فرزندان امیر المؤمنین حضرت سید الشہدا و عباس و پسر او محمد و عمر و عثمان و جعفر و ابراہیم و عبد اللہ اصغر و محمد اصغر پسران امیر المومنین علیہ السلام
Nine of the children of Amir al Mu’minin: Sayed al Shuhada’ (Hussain), ‘Abbas, his grandson Muhammad, ‘Umar, ‘Uthman, Jafar, Ibrahim, and ‘Abdullah Asghar and Muhammad Asghar―the grandsons of Amir al Mu’minin.[5]
f. Section six of Muntaha al Amal of ‘Abbas al Qummi of the 14th century has a list of the issue of Sayyidina ‘Ali Amir al Mu’minin radiya Llahu ‘anhu:
عمر و رقیہ کبری ست کہ ہر دو تن تو ام از مادر متولد شدند و مادر ایشاں ام حبیب دختر ربیعہ است
‘Umar and Ruqayyah the eldest both were born to an umm walad[6], Umm Habib bint Rabi’ah.[7]
(Umm Habib is also called al Sahba’ al Tha’labiyyah.)
g. ‘Abbas Qummi writes the biography of this son in Tuhfat al Ahbab:
عمر بن علی بن ابی طالب کنیت اش ابو القاسم مادرش صہباء است و با رقیہ توأم بدنیا آمدہ و آنجناب بفصاحت زبان و سماحت طبع معروف بود … و او آخر کس ست از پسران امیر المومنین کہ وفات کردہ إلخ
‘Umar ibn ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib: His agnomen was Abu al Qasim. His mother was Sahba’. He entered the world as a twin with his sister Ruqayyah. He was famous for his eloquence and magnanimity. And he is the last son of Amir al Mu’minin to pass away.[8]
The summary of these narrations:
Sayyidina ‘Ali radiya Llahu ‘anhu had a son by the name ‘Umar.
His agnomen was Abu al Qasim and his title was al Atraf.
He was born as a twin with his sister Ruqayyah bint ‘Ali.
Their mother’s name was al Sahba’ al Tha’labiyyah al Bakriyyah who was captured from the Banu Taghlib tribe during the Siddiqi khilafah. Her agnomen was Umm Habib. She is the daughter of Rabi’ah. She was gifted to Sayyidina ‘Ali by Sayyidina Abu Bakr radiya Llahu ‘anhuma.
‘Umar was very eloquent and magnanimous.
He was the last son of Sayyidina ‘Ali radiya Llahu ‘anhu to leave this world.
Would you name your children after people that are cowards and liars. Ali, Hussain, Hassan and the blessed imams(May Allah be blessed with them) named their children Abu Bakr, Omar and Uthman as they knew these were the companions of the prophet, spread Islam, fought for Islam and preserved the Holy Quran with Allah’s permission which you quote and read today😅
So was there only one Omar is the entire Islamic history? Anyways, this link will assist you for it www.shiapen.com/comprehensive/names-of-imam-ali-sons.html
@@Thaqlain Lets make it simple so our viewers can judge. If you hated a person so much that the thought of him made you feel uncomfortable, would you name your son using "this" name. Whether the intention was naming after Omar (r) or Uthman (r) and etc. It's the mere fact and human feeling that you don't name things or let alone children after a hated person.
If the other Omar and Uthman are so much beloved to you would definitely to make their legacy live forever and pratically show that names do not matter :)
The Prophet actually loved Uthman Ibn Maz'un. He is said to be childhood friend of the Prophet.
@@Thaqlain The main issue is that you are concocting lies that there was hatred among the companions of the prophet (specifically Omar, Abu Bakr, Uthman and Ali (RA) when really such stories are baseless and completely fabricated. When put in the corner, you and people that belong to your sect deflect to another topic. The simple question I ask, is would anyone in the past, present and future name their son or daughter after someone they despise? The answer is simple and if you truly believed what you are preaching you would answer truthfully. Your own sect today (Shias) do not name Omar, Abu Bakr, Uthman, Muawiya (RA))?! Based on your answer and logic there are many Omars, Abu Bakr,s Uthmans, Muawiyas let's throw in Yazeeds as well. Why? Your own sect has answered this clearly because they do not name their sons after people they despise. Where as Ali and Ahlul Bait and the the great imams have been documented in your own books that have named their children after Omar, Abu Bakr, Uthman. Why? Because to remember them as great people who learned Islam from Prophet (SAWS) and spread it to the world.
We already answered your question in detail. But if you feel that only what you know is correct and there is no alternate reality we cannot help you much. Sadly, the Muslims love caliphs more than they love Prophet and can even downgrade Prophet and his true companions for the select few 🙂
May Allah be pleased with our master 'Umar.
You don’t realise that Allah has honoured Umar so much even his enemies are telling his story 😂
الله honored Imam Ali (as) which even his enemies can't criticize him but on the other hand everyone can criticize Umar.
@@ashvazdanghe Christians and Jews also criticize the Prophet of Islam, but Prophet Muhammad does not criticize their Prophet because our religion respects them and they are also the Prophet of God.
Your argument (rwafez) is very ridiculous
So what do tell about Allah who has stories of Namrud, firon shaitan & all his enemies
And who said that School of Ahlulbayt is an enemy of Umar ibn Khattab?
Your scholars
This guy is going against a companion of the Messenger. Every person with common sense should ask did prophet do so? Abubakr was his best friend and closest companion yet Shiites call him a Katie and umar as well. Ali himself was their(companions) companion til his death.
The Quran did so. So should we go with your common sense or with the Quran? 🙂
@@Thaqlain provide the verse you liar. That's right. If the quran had such a verse the Messenger wouldn't have kept them close and loved them. What should we expect from those who follow Jews rather than the Messenger and his companions.
Please check Surah Tawbah verse 101. Surah Munafiqon. Time and time again Prophet was informed that not all Muslims around him are believers. Even some wives of the Prophet were condemned at places in the Quran.
@@Thaqlain I've read it. Where did it say the sahabah were hypocrites? It does not. Among those who called themselves Muslim were some hypocrites. You don't get to lie and choose who they are. The prophet praised Abubakr, umar, uthman and many more companions. They were Muslim in Mecca. Only after Hijra did hypocrites come to be. So we know for a fact they were innocent. You still have shown zero proof or evidence. As for the wives, rebuking them is not cursing them or calling them hypocrites. When you rebuke your family do you want to kill them or punish them in a fire?
And among the bedouins around you, some are hypocrites, and so are some among the people of Al-Madinah who persist in hypocrisy; you know them not, We know them. We shall punish them twice, and thereafter they shall be brought back to a great (horrible) torment.
Please read the verse again. It is very clear that some of those within the close proximity and "around Prophet" were hypocrites. And to defy your logic of blaming only the Muslims of Medina of being hypocrites, the previous verse should be enough. The Quran praised Ansar and Muhajireen together and rebuked the hypocrites amongst them together.
As for wives, will you praise someone who said to the Prophet that "you have a bad smell?" Will you praise someone who broke Prophet's trust by disclosing his promise? Will you praise the one who according to Quran "collaborated against the Prophet"? Will you praise the one whom Quran said that "Allah will replace them with better"?
Sadly, some Muslims can easily belittle Prophet but when it comes to the caliphs and their daughters have all sorts of strange logics. We rest our case.
All pure conjecture and speculation ; only for Bughuz of Umar. i Pity your soul . May Allah open your heart and minds to truth. Imam Ali RA wasnt an enemy of them and you who claim complete obedience to Imam ALI RA go against his conduct in his life. So Yeah, i pity you.
Where has the scholar said that Imam Ali considered them as enemies? Or we consider them as our enemies? Jumping to conclusions and giving sectarian touch to a series while only listening to episodes and parts that suits you tells a lot about your motives and desires 🙂
What excuse could I find for those Companions who had spent nearly twenty years with the Messenger of Allah, from the start of the Mission to the day of al-Hudaibiyah, and had seen all the miracles and enlightenment of the Prophethood? Furthermore the Qur'an was teaching them day and night how they should behave in the presence of the Messenger, and how they should talk to him, to the extent that Allah had threatened to ruin their deeds if they raised their voices above his voice. Allah knows well we are not to judge any one of it. its Him Allah who judge All..
Iblees prayed to Allah in the proximity of angels. When he can deviate anyone can 🙂
What is the point of attacking the companions of the prophet and his wives while claiming they love ahlul bayt
There is no attack. This is the 50th episode and there are episodes filled with praise of companions and wives. It seems you reached a conclusion too quickly.
On a side note, Tabari, Bukhari and others have attacked more on the Prophet but we never see such agitation from Muslims 🙂🙏🏼
@@Thaqlain Why did ali ibn abi talib worked with these people if they were bad people why was he praying behind them why was he a minister and judge in their goverment
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Imam Ali was not minister or judge. He advised and corrected them where required. And these two clips will allow you to understand why he did so 🙂🙏🏼
But why Shia you only come out with hateful preaching. We are tired of it leave the swahabas they died long time ago and they did what they could. Don't judge them, let them be judged by Allah.
Who are we to judge? But it is necessary to present the reality so people can know whom should they be following to get the Sunnah of the Prophet.
They redicule the sahabas. You are luck brother. You were born muslim but these sahaba endured the difficulties from the start. Is not like you and me brother! You should be very careful. Omar did great job compare to other sahaba, even the non muslims during those times mentioned in their books. No ali no whoever you know. Allah knows best
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1. Those who do not Befriend Abu Bakr and ‘Umar will Not Receive Rasulullah’s salla Llahu ‘alayhi wa sallam Intercession
عن سالم بن أبي حفصة قال قال جعفر بن محمد رضي الله عنه أبو بكر جدي أفيسب الرجل جده لا نالتني شفاعة محمد إن لم أكن أتولاهما و أبرأ من عدوهما
Salim ibn Abi Hafsah reports that Jafar ibn Muhammad rahimahu Llah said:
Abu Bakr is my grandfather. Does anyone swear at his grandfather? May I not receive Muhammad’s intercession if I do not befriend them and dissociate from their enemies.[1]
If you see these people with black clothes and stuff, you know It's time for you to leave.
Indeed. Else, you will learn something new from your own books and for that one has to unlearn the stories you have been taught since childhood :)
And you call yourself Sayyed? May ALLAH guide you and all of us.
If you can’t help the MUSLIM UMMAH unite despite our differences, then at least keep your mouth shut please 🙏
So examining history is dividing the people? While the same Muslim books defame the Prophet but Muslims are happy with it.
Jafar Al-Sadiq on Abu Bakr and Umar
It is reported from Sālim b. Abī Ḥafṣah:
I asked Abū Jaʿfar and his son Jaʿfar (Al-Ṣādiq) about Abū Bakr and ʿUmar, so he replied, “O Sālim, love and ally yourself with them, and dissociate yourself from their enemy, for they were imāms of guidance.” Then he said, “O Sālim, would a man revile his own grandfather? Abū Bakr is a grandfather of mine. May the intercession of Muḥammad ﷺ not reach me on the Day of Resurrection if I do not love and ally myself with them and disassociate from their enemy.”
Al-Dhahabī, Siyar ʾAʿlām Al-Nubalāʾ 6:258.
Indeed a fabrication
It's funny how they always mentions the gossip of Umar r.a. ran away in the battlefield as even if
it was true there had been no issues to it as retreating is not an bad thing!
But let's stop for a moment and focus on the great imam of your time ,
The owner of time whom you claim control every atom in the universe,
That can make a dua and make the groundshake and start earthquakes,
The imam mahdi that is so powerful but ran away from some few men and has been hiding every sense 🤣🤣🤣
Why did your srong and brave imam ran away? Wasn't he supposed to follow the command of Allah ?
Why didn't he fight right he could had become a shahid right 😉 ! Just let's stop this nonsense talking about things
That doesn't matter and come back to the real importance of the quran which shia has gone the complete opposite and even claim is
Changed and tampered with. How shameful as you claim the quran has been changed and that uthman put in his own and removed others but still you have the Mushaf uthman in your house and kiss it and put it on your foreheads 🤣
Yaa sindiik your ghulu is on the highest level and your fantasy of these invisible imams that has been hiding in a cave or a basement and is talking with the Iranian ayatollahs and give them directions from the basement as they claim being the representatives of the imam !
This stinks and even bollywood wouldn't be able to invent the stories and lies the shia has invented.
It's just sad that the good shias has to be tricked into these ayatollah extremism pumping out from qom.
This has been already mentioned in detail by the Imam Mahdi series by Sayed Ahmed Qazwini. You may also refer to Mahdi by Sayed Muneer al-Khabbaz. Secondly, when an army or a soldier retreats, their aim is to collect themselves to attack the enemy again; not to wait till the war ends 🙂
Surely we are more than 1400 years after the companions and Islam. These are Great Sahabas all of them, whether Ahlul bait or not. It is not a good idea to be negative about them and interpret everything on them the wrong way. Why should we reject the Sahih Hadiths just to make some sahabas who Wallahi they were greater than all of us. Moreover, we have to be positive because we don't know the truth since we are much away from these generations. Again why should we engage in such small divisions that non muslims take advantage of. Let us refrain our tongue from these subjects for sure it is not important. It only divides us more and more..... Lets all follow the Qur'an and the sunnah of the Prophet (SAW) and seek the guidance of Allah SWT
This isn’t Disney world there are real issues that we have to address about the history of the sahabas because many people get their religious doctrine from them, to turn a blind eye would be ignorant
@@LoyalMinion I understand your point but Allah has given us the guide, Quran through his prophet SAW and in addition the Sunnah of the prophet. People are arguing about something small like the character of this sahaba is superior or inferior to another sahaba. It is good to love and follow the sahaba example but we have what they themselves used to follow The Furqan which guides us to the key pillars of the religion. Therefore discussing such a small matter and arguing and hating each other about it is absolutely unnecessary as to my opinion. For we are all muslims and brothers in faith. Let us not be divided by small matters like this as long as we have the Quran to follow. Maybe we may make mistakes and dishonour extremely someone who is dear to Allah in this process. Therefore just being positive of the any muslim, the companions included is a good idea for we are not taking risks of saying or teaching something that is not true in the case.
On the day of Judgement, I would rather be on the side of the Prophet (Pbuh) and his Ahlulbayt. Versus the side of his fake “companions” who wanted nothing but power after the Prophet passed away.
@@SalAnwar Yeah, I guess the Prophet was 'joking' when he named the blessed 10 guaranteed Jannah and those who gave bayah to him in Sulah e Hudaybiyah. Keep having fake dreams.
Salaam brother.
We can’t just stay positive because we don’t know the truth. The truth is out there you just need to look for it and connect the dots.
Go back further in history with Issa, who betrayed him ? His closest companion did. So what makes it difficult for Muhammad’s companions not to ? As a matter of fact go look in the Quran where Allah warns the prophet in so many occasions of the hypocrites and those who act like they’re close but aren’t. Who is Allah talking about think with an open mind, people who probably are close to him. Eg 63:3 When the hypocrites come to you they say: 'We bear witness that you are the Messenger of Allah'. Allah knows that you are His Messenger, and Allah bears witness that the hypocrites are liars. They have made their oaths as a shield and turn [people] away from Allah. Evil indeed is that which they do! That is because they believed and then disbelieved. Their hearts were sealed and they do not understand"
Regarding following the Quran and sunnah there’s no where in the Sunni authentic books saying Quran and sunnah, but it says Quran and Ahlulbayt. But we do agree sunnah has to be followed of the prophet, and we get them from the Ahlulbayt.
We can’t come to conclusions that why should we talk about them and Allah knows best and all. Brother if Allah is Adil than I expect him not to favour mistakes of a companion of the prophet just because he was a companion. Don’t make sense to me in the right mind, they will all be accountable for their deeds.
You need to search for the actual message and teachings of the holy prophet pbuh & his family. Not just say I do the wajibats so all this doesn’t matter and Allah knows best ! Yes Allah knows best but it does matter for me to find my prophets actual religion, go do your research on how Abubakar and Omar treated Fatema the lady of the heavens according to the same prophet. And the same prophet said whoever angers Fatema has angered me and whoever angers the prophet angers Allah. And the authentic Sunni hadith say Fatema died angry with Abubakr. That should answer you also why did the prophet warn about that and why did he mention to Ali & Fatema that they will face a tough time after him and they should have patience. Who gave them the tough time ? Coincidence ?
There’s so much I could write but it’s a mission typing. All I’d say is find the right thing as what Allah told us through the prophet is Iqra. Read. He never said listen and just believe. Everything is available it’s just the effort of searching the truth.
And brother I’ll tell you if you wanna get closer to the religion of Allah that was sent to Muhammad, than there’s no better way than the Ahlulbayt. You’ll even love Islam more. Welcome to the twelvers Shia of Ali. Have a great day brother🙏🏼
So much misrepresentation
We are here to stand corrected.
@Thaqlain when you talk about the history of Islam, you should try to unit.
Special when you know that these videos have the potential to reach a diverse audience, Muslims and non Muslims.
The way you talk about
Umar RA is like he was just a foot soldier.
I know that as a Shia, you have a bais, but Shi'ism was not there at the time of Prophet Muhammad PBUH.
The episode that was about the battle of the trench, you said that it was the shia of Ali RA that helped the prophet PBUH the most while others were just being lazy.
Please try and teach the actual history, not a bais one.
JazakAllah for sharing your thoughts. We understand where you are coming from. However, please note that none of the narrations mentioned in this episode are from the Shia scholars. So there is no biasness here. Sadly, it is the Sunni scholars that rely more on the narrations forged by Ummayyads while ignoring the other narrations found in their own books
Secondly, as far as existence of Shias are concerned, they did exist during the time of the Prophet. We have hadiths narrated by both schools that some companions were referred to as "Shia of Ali" during the time of the Prophet. Some notable ones include Salman, Abu Dharr and Ammar.
shia lies..omar farooq r.a was a righteous and bravest khalifa of islam
One cannot learn something new if he has decided that he already knows.
@@Thaqlain you people are good at inventing new stuff...we muslims call it biddah.
Did we invent the hadith in Bukhari?
@@Thaqlain You are manipulating it to suit your fabricated lies.
Please share how we have manipulated it.
So much disrespect to Omar subhan allah from you rafidhi
May Allah protect us from disrespecting someone.
This is the 50th episode of this series. And it seems it is the only one you have listened to. Secondly, we understand that things mentioned here are new for you, but that doesn't mean it is an attempt to disrespect or is rubbish.
I never thought I would see someone calling himself a muslim talking about Omar this way. Cursing and belittling Omar will not get you anywhere.
Salaam Alaykum. Thanks for dropping by. Firstly, we will request you not to take this episode in a silo and instead at least listen from the beginning of this chapter before you reach a conclusion.
Secondly, once you will listen to this series entirely, you will find that sadly Muslim scholars have said much more about the Prophet. Sadly, we don't see such agitation in that case.
Thirdly, nothing in this episode is said without references. This is a research-based series and we understand things mentioned here might be new for you but there is nothing that is presented as the opinion of the scholar.
@@Thaqlain
W/salaam
there is nothing you say can make me hate Abubakar, Omar, Uthman and Aisha (ummul mumineen) May Allah be pleased with them all. Islam is where it is today bcos Allah's will and Omar's effort and generosity. I can quote many references and two or three days would not be enough to talk about how great man Omar Ibn Al khattab was.
The last thing we would want is to instil hate. The aim of this series is just to present things as they are. Without adding any opinions or hidden agenda.
Convert to Islam I hate the devil Omar be wise he killed the prophet, stole fadak killed Fatima. He refused to obey the dying prophet, by not joining usamas army. Oh Allah curse omar