Yes im an idiot, i was only 2 from pity. but at least im ready for next hero. At this stage he is an easy skip but ill update you with more testing in the coming day or so
This Game is SUCH an L How are they trying to make Money with such mediocre Characters? Like the fuck i stopped Paying since they dont bring good stuff
im always a different person when i spend on summons coz im not there to get excited and have fun im there to get value. thats why im always F2P. i think its a completely different experience
@@VolkinAFKJourney The banner rates feel deceptive. A lot of us have played long enough what's presented doesn't feel on the level. It's that feeling when you have an inkling you're being conned/missing something, but you don't have anything tangible to confirm it.
Im pretty sure his actual rate is like 0.5%. I think the listed rates include pity. Example: 3% of 100k pulls is 3000. 100k/40 =2500. So to match the posted rate you only have to hit 500 out of the other 97500 pulls. 500/97500 = 0.51%
I did the math for this a few months back (binomial probability calc). Assuming the advertised rates include pity, the actual S tier hero rate per pull should be: all heroes - 0.726% epic recruitment - 3.330% rate up recruitment - 0.962% stargaze - 1.404%
i just want a new carry unit so i can reroll for new accounts 😄doesn't feel fun when u have to reroll or ever have summon on standard banner cause the banner unit isn't good
For every unlucky person there's a lucky person. Just like how survivorship bias works or the same way people call a system broken when it doesn't go in their favor, but praise it when it is.
Rooftrellen - Overgrowth Summons an overgrowth of damaging vines and branches. Prevents all nearby enemies from moving or attacking and deals damage to eac... Oh sorry I entered the wrong game lol
like u predict Soren not in the shop LOL and we need to talk about balance patch more please some characters just too broken like that Damian toy how many times he gonna summons that shit toy? and some characters need some buff... 🙏
I believe people did the math and showed the rates are correct when the pity is applied. Which means the rates are in fact less then shown and it's only the guaranteed pull increasing the "chance".
I'd love it if you could use your rate up invites on characters other than the newest one (e.g. pick your rate up character like you pick your wishlist). Right now my rate up letters are just piling up, and I doubt this will be the last time they release two mediocre units in a row. Even if it cost extra to summon for a different character, it'd be worth it for me.
I feel like something is wrong because the odds of not beating pity are around 30% Or there is something different that is not revealed. Edit: It's even worse because the 10th pull guarantees an A-Rank so it's the same if we assume he stays at 3% and the others at 97% or it's lower than 30% if his odds increase on the 10th. Edit2: It might be that the 3% counts the 10th pull on a multi which makes the odds very very bad...
To me, ulmus 10s root cd might be enough due to how the game goes, especially in pvp. Of course he isn't made for long battles, he is made for battles that are mostly short due to how his kit functions and if it goes long on battle, you can use granny with him to stall the battle. He's made to be as a massive cc booster for eironn alsa comps due to they lack cc that last long enough and ulmus fits the spot. Granny can fit into that spot but problem is in massive punch ups, granny will mostly get one shot easily before she can ult and that's where ulmus comes into play
If it is a 3% chance then in a 10 pull you have 26% chance. In 30 pulls it goes up to 50.4%. I counted 150 pulls not including the pity, the probability of getting 1 copy in 150 pulls is 97.15%. the probability of 2 copies in 150 pulls is 25%. So it seems like what happened to you is in line with a 3% chance, it's just that 3% is a low rate. The other thing with probability that a lot of people don't realize is regardless of how may times you don't get the copy, it doesn't increase your odds of getting one next time, it's called the gambler's fallacy
@@Yver15 He wouldn't say that he only needs 10 pull for the next rate up without at least knowing that it's only within 10 pulls. Maybe he counted, guessed, or knew the exact number Idk, only he knows the answer
61 tickets + 40k diamonds and COULDN'T get him M+ !? Damn, that's expensive for only 1 heroe. Means even after saving tickets for 3 months, I won't get a useable char... 😠
I feel like I get shit on every banner, day 63 and I still don't have M+ Smokey or Eiron despite them being on wishlist from day 3 onwards. M+ Reiner will be this weekend, no Scarlita either and of course got Dionel as my free pull last week FFS
Bruh soren isn't in the shop🥲, now I know what they meant by adding more heroes in shop in future, definitely it won't be any new s heroes in shop. They really need to add some diff s characters in the arena shop.
All banners are scam rates from what i can see. The game is utter scam bollocks mate. The idiots spending are the only thing keeping it from being a flop!
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Yes im an idiot, i was only 2 from pity. but at least im ready for next hero.
At this stage he is an easy skip but ill update you with more testing in the coming day or so
20 days to wait for either meta or mid
If the next banner is also mid, I’ll just keep saving. My current teams are good enough.
me with my 70+ tickets just lyin there waiting for a good hero: 👁️👄👁️
I got 150 and I'm going for him s+
Goodluck, hope you don't regret him. 😂@@brandonyork67
Get those numbers up.. sitting at 300+ here waiting still
130000 diamonds and 80 tickets...
This Game is SUCH an L
How are they trying to make Money with such mediocre Characters? Like the fuck i stopped Paying since they dont bring good stuff
In hindsight, I should of rolled more for Vala when she was on rate up because shes the only rate up character so far I was semi interested in.
Same😂
Flora was good too. Useful for certain dream bosses and good for afk stages, not bad in pvp either.
I’m happy I went for vala but I do wish I got florabell
I’m so sad I didn’t go for Vala.. pvp is dead for me rn
Florabelle + supreme+ cassidy works so well.
The way Volkin was upset about rates makes you think about the game... Even the most loyal content creators can't tolerate those banners, I swear
im always a different person when i spend on summons coz im not there to get excited and have fun im there to get value. thats why im always F2P. i think its a completely different experience
@@VolkinAFKJourney The banner rates feel deceptive. A lot of us have played long enough what's presented doesn't feel on the level. It's that feeling when you have an inkling you're being conned/missing something, but you don't have anything tangible to confirm it.
He should make like a tree and leaf.
lol
Can't make it fast enough 😂
He should make like a baby and head out
The fact that it's a 2 second knockdown, not just a root, for pvp makes it pretty strong (and more annoying) for that arena team.
I went for him tbh nice addition to Eironn teams and yes he does cheat death.
We need a good S hero ASAP ngl.
Im pretty sure his actual rate is like 0.5%. I think the listed rates include pity. Example: 3% of 100k pulls is 3000. 100k/40 =2500. So to match the posted rate you only have to hit 500 out of the other 97500 pulls. 500/97500 = 0.51%
I did the math for this a few months back (binomial probability calc). Assuming the advertised rates include pity, the actual S tier hero rate per pull should be:
all heroes - 0.726%
epic recruitment - 3.330%
rate up recruitment - 0.962%
stargaze - 1.404%
Wouldnt that be if the pity didnt reset after hitting?
Straw that broke this camel's back. ✌🏼 AFK Journey
i just want a new carry unit so i can reroll for new accounts 😄doesn't feel fun when u have to reroll or ever have summon on standard banner cause the banner unit isn't good
Rates are so fake on this game lol
For every unlucky person there's a lucky person. Just like how survivorship bias works or the same way people call a system broken when it doesn't go in their favor, but praise it when it is.
Not this game only.
Most games with rate up summons is BS
@@Doggof2p there's just as many people that get doubles on their first 10 pull don't worry.
Rooftrellen - Overgrowth
Summons an overgrowth of damaging vines and branches. Prevents all nearby enemies from moving or attacking and deals damage to eac... Oh sorry I entered the wrong game lol
I won’t be using my rate up banners for him. If he’s good for PvP, I’ll just wishlist him.
like u predict Soren not in the shop LOL and we need to talk about balance patch more please some characters just too broken like that Damian toy how many times he gonna summons that shit toy? and some characters need some buff... 🙏
its a gatcha game, balances don't happen
@@tabibito-san4569 Balance happens all the time in pvp gachas, or else everyone quits when they realize nothing has counterplay
@@tabibito-san4569 yes i knew but they did balance some characters in the beginning of the game... so there's hope
Went s+ alsa and vala and left the rest so far
The last banned I did was vala 💀
I believe people did the math and showed the rates are correct when the pity is applied. Which means the rates are in fact less then shown and it's only the guaranteed pull increasing the "chance".
I'd love it if you could use your rate up invites on characters other than the newest one (e.g. pick your rate up character like you pick your wishlist). Right now my rate up letters are just piling up, and I doubt this will be the last time they release two mediocre units in a row. Even if it cost extra to summon for a different character, it'd be worth it for me.
I feel like something is wrong because the odds of not beating pity are around 30%
Or there is something different that is not revealed.
Edit: It's even worse because the 10th pull guarantees an A-Rank so it's the same if we assume he stays at 3% and the others at 97% or it's lower than 30% if his odds increase on the 10th.
Edit2: It might be that the 3% counts the 10th pull on a multi which makes the odds very very bad...
To me, ulmus 10s root cd might be enough due to how the game goes, especially in pvp. Of course he isn't made for long battles, he is made for battles that are mostly short due to how his kit functions and if it goes long on battle, you can use granny with him to stall the battle. He's made to be as a massive cc booster for eironn alsa comps due to they lack cc that last long enough and ulmus fits the spot. Granny can fit into that spot but problem is in massive punch ups, granny will mostly get one shot easily before she can ult and that's where ulmus comes into play
lol did you actually buy? you only needed 2 more roll for m+ 9:35
looool
If it is a 3% chance then in a 10 pull you have 26% chance. In 30 pulls it goes up to 50.4%. I counted 150 pulls not including the pity, the probability of getting 1 copy in 150 pulls is 97.15%. the probability of 2 copies in 150 pulls is 25%. So it seems like what happened to you is in line with a 3% chance, it's just that 3% is a low rate. The other thing with probability that a lot of people don't realize is regardless of how may times you don't get the copy, it doesn't increase your odds of getting one next time, it's called the gambler's fallacy
Was that 2 away from pity?
He knows 10:00
@@BrokeMCT He said the next 10pull. I'm not sure if he knew that it was 2 away from pity.
@@Yver15 He wouldn't say that he only needs 10 pull for the next rate up without at least knowing that it's only within 10 pulls. Maybe he counted, guessed, or knew the exact number Idk, only he knows the answer
61 tickets + 40k diamonds and COULDN'T get him M+ !? Damn, that's expensive for only 1 heroe.
Means even after saving tickets for 3 months, I won't get a useable char... 😠
Ready to max pull on something. 260 tickets wasting away lol.
I guess I’ll start saving… maybe figure out who to use diamonds on in the near future
I feel like I get shit on every banner, day 63 and I still don't have M+ Smokey or Eiron despite them being on wishlist from day 3 onwards. M+ Reiner will be this weekend, no Scarlita either and of course got Dionel as my free pull last week FFS
Bruh soren isn't in the shop🥲, now I know what they meant by adding more heroes in shop in future, definitely it won't be any new s heroes in shop. They really need to add some diff s characters in the arena shop.
They will be in the shop once the season ends. Each season is 4 months long.
TY Volk for the video
you arent alone I feel like I get shafted on every banner except for the red letters
Only game I've ever asked for power creep. Lilith please drop a hero worth spending my stash on 🤣
dude you had 2 more!
Me. With 100k+ diamonds and 80+ ticket waiting for Lorsan
what? "Eironn cc team became more OP you said", brilliant
He seems totally solid for the Eironn comp, but man those rates are trash I'm not even gonna attempt it with my shit luck xD
i have 45 special summons and 130k daimonds waiting for a good hero😢
Dropped 100 summons on him amd didn't even get m+ what a scam
The banner summons seems rigged: Every 10 pull give us ONLY 1 A.
That's because the rate of A ranks in the new hero banner is only 10% compared to the 22,5% from the normal letter banner.
what is this account? is this your spending account? o;
A whale who stopped spending so i help him maintain it and spend if i want for content
All banners are scam rates from what i can see. The game is utter scam bollocks mate. The idiots spending are the only thing keeping it from being a flop!
True
Think its worth it to get him if maining eirron comp?
need to test more but my early though is no coz the comp has plenty of viable options already
@@VolkinAFKJourney ok thanks man ill hold off for now im running a maxed eirron comp atm didnt know if he would be better than thorin
got like 60tickets+100k dias 🤷🤷
bro is sylvannus from smite /s
This Game is such an L
3 Mid-Bad Heroes right after another. Like the fuck? Why would anyone pay money for it.
OHHHHRR NOURRRR
They really wanna make ppl quit the game, they just release dog shit heroes. Im even more glad ive just pulled vala and flora to s+
AM I GROOT?
great so gotta skip this character to nice.... got 70k gems n about 40 tickets f2p
The rates are definitely lie
first
groot
i havent even known that he is a 4 star like wtf afk journey nobody cares lmao