Xenogears - Id's Origin, Part 2 & Wave Existence & Obtaining Xenogears (Boss & Scenes)

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  • @principate
    @principate 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    best rpg ever made. the story was a mindfuck from start to finish. still gives me good memories to this day.

  • @dessfred
    @dessfred 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    First we have this very emotionnal scenes where Fei reunites with his past lifes, then we get a shitload of very complicated informations on the existence of Deus, Elly, the Contact and the Zohar and then we fight an easy but really cool battle in a new overpowered gear. People say they don't like the second disc, but I bet it's everyone favorite part of the game!

    • @pokeleoantiqua7326
      @pokeleoantiqua7326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      People don’t like disc 2 because it didn’t have a lot of gameplay
      But the story in it was amazing

    • @EmeraldaKasim
      @EmeraldaKasim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Disc 2 is PEAK
      So is disc 1, I really don’t know which i like better, but i for sure dont miss the abundance of identical asset mazes in disc 1

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EmeraldaKasim disc 2 is whee the real story is.

    • @Eleveneleven984
      @Eleveneleven984 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you...

  • @zarahisunstrider2456
    @zarahisunstrider2456 10 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Gotta love how Xenogears acted on its own and pulled Fei back into the cockpit.

    • @TonyBMan
      @TonyBMan 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Zarahi Sunstrider Xenogears is basically a living gear...it's essentially the Wave Existence and Zohar combined

    • @mykejc
      @mykejc 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +TonyBMan Weltall AI Memories?....Off.: In sci-fi: Michael Knight Sr and K ITT (Knight 2000), Michael Knight II (Knight 3000), Juspion and Daileon (Juspion), Leo, Dingo and ADA (Zone Of Enders), Spike Witchwik and Bumblebee (Transformers), Shinnosuke Tomari, Mr. Belt and Tridoron (Kamen Rider Drive), Kotaro Minami and Battle Hopper/ Acrobater, Road Sector ,Hidroron (Kamen Rider Black/ Black Rx), Naoto Tamura and Reson (Jiban), Geki and Daizyujin, etc...artificial souls, living machines, friendiship for our parteners/masters,etc

    • @TheMixedPlateFrequency
      @TheMixedPlateFrequency 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought Xenogears came before the time of Zohar ever existed.?

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMixedPlateFrequency the gears were made before Zohar integrated the Wave Existence into itself; before Deus. Don’t know if they existed before Kadomony or if Deus and Kadomony were made in parallel. I doubt Deus was needed to manage the Gears.

  • @tek512
    @tek512 6 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    In the end, Grahf was just a man with a broken heart. When Sophia died, so did his soul.

    • @lazuardialdi2646
      @lazuardialdi2646 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Some guy Perfect Answer 😏

    • @shadestrider1033
      @shadestrider1033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *Lacan

    • @johnnyscifi
      @johnnyscifi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Krellian was also affected by her death

    • @woolfyx
      @woolfyx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Darth Vader vibes.

    • @tek512
      @tek512 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@woolfyx Intentionally so, I might add. The developers were big fans of Vader.

  • @aRdW
    @aRdW 12 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I'll never got over the epicness of this game's story...

    • @TheMixedPlateFrequency
      @TheMixedPlateFrequency 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same here.

    • @sofianhady2685
      @sofianhady2685 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      2018 and for me This game story still the best of all time not to mention the OST,characters etc,Simply amazing and epic this game is.

    • @dockjordan
      @dockjordan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If only it wasn't rushed at the end. The most epic still

    • @xviinaichi3793
      @xviinaichi3793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dockjordan you should read perfect works

  • @Pfizer980
    @Pfizer980 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I played 20 years ago when I was 13, and so little did I understand about the story, especially starting from disc 2. All I ever seek was the cool gears, great effects and battle system. and the music got me hyped. But now I understand much better. A very cruel fate for fei lacan elly miang, but only those who did not lose heart in the crisis can be the true hero to truly save and free humankind in the real way

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did Myang ever realize she was a victim in all of this as were the others? Did she even care? She came across as a computer program - a non-feeling psychopath.

  • @duskcrawler
    @duskcrawler 11 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I heard someone accurately describe the problem with games these days "Great graphics, shallow storytelling." You can tell in the older games that the developers had fun with the games they created. If they didn't, why would they have such a big game filled with tons of deep symbolism that you never see in games nowadays? Its because people like Takahashi really wanted to make a masterpiece out of the stories they created. Final Fantasy has frankly gotten stale :/

    • @sofianhady2685
      @sofianhady2685 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      THIS!!!! finally someone realized what was wrong in current RPG games.

    • @SuperElite27000000
      @SuperElite27000000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      After 7 and 12 it's gone to shit.

    • @meisterschwert
      @meisterschwert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean the same amount of care's gone into xenoblade, so

  • @princeofcats6883
    @princeofcats6883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Usually when the story becomes long, i slightly lose interest, begin pausing the game to take a break, or a drink or a snack.
    Xenogears' story left me completley captivated. I cant remember one instance where i played the game and took a break.

  • @akabancopop
    @akabancopop 9 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    It's such a fucked-up masterpiece. They couldn't make a second one if they tried.

    • @TonyBMan
      @TonyBMan 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      John Schwerdt It was right after this revalayaton that brix were shat as the intro video suddenly made sense.....especially the end of it.

    • @mariocarmona6092
      @mariocarmona6092 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wouldn't say its fucked up but its definitely a masterpiece

    • @akabancopop
      @akabancopop 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I mean fucked up in terms of formatting and how the storytelling changes from disc 1 to disc 2

    • @mariocarmona6092
      @mariocarmona6092 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      John Schwerdt if square had more faith in it it wouldve been probably the best rpg ever

    • @TonyBMan
      @TonyBMan 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mario Carmona yup...seeing as how its incomplete form is still god-tier i can only wish that a complete version would just magically pop up somewhere.

  • @Raymhein
    @Raymhein 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Coming SOON?! No way, what a point to cut it off at! I wanted to see the whole ending of Xenogears again, lol. Damn that was so suspenseful!

  • @ClassicalSquaresoft
    @ClassicalSquaresoft 10 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Xenogears Infinity mode is awesome. When playing this game back in 1998 at 15 years old, never did realize how much a master piece this game really was. Didn't age well but it's still my favorite game of all time.

  • @TonyBMan
    @TonyBMan 9 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Although the Zohar may be responsible for all Ether and gear and power on the planet, Fei and Elly, being the beings that they are, do not need to rely on the power of it because they essentially ARE facets of the Wave Existence....so, like Xenogears, they can manifest these powers on their own without a Master Generator because they ARE the power, touched by the Wave.

    • @tek512
      @tek512 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not so much Elly. Fei is the only one that still has his powers after the end of the game. She became just another human, and her reincarnation cycle ended. Fei sadly will go on reincarnating, only now his future selves won't have have an Elly to hold in his arms anymore.

    • @zamstrom
      @zamstrom 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tek512 time out, I always wondered about this about the post-world of Xenogears. I thought that since Fei finally released the wave existence from the Zohar, that the cyclical reincarnation effect finally breaks free from Fei too? That he also loses his ether powers as well due to the fact the wave existence has returned back to the higher dimension it came from. A world free from God.

    • @tek512
      @tek512 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@zamstrom The Wave Existence may be gone, but the power it instilled in Abel--Fei's original self--and all subsequent contacts will remain intact. He retains near-infinite ether levels and the ability to transmigrate after death. It's a bit more evident in the Japanese version. Something is lost in translation. The tl;dr is that Fei is not reliant on the Wave Existence or Deus to retain his vast array of powers. That is why the Xenogears continued to operate once the Wave Existence was gone--Fei himself serves as its source of power, being something of a lower domain physical duplicate of the Wave Existence's raw power.
      Elly not so much. She was reliant on the Wave Existence. Miang also won't be reincarnating again. Y'know Ouroboros? That was Miang. When it died, Miang was completely erased from existence.

    • @pizzapoosta
      @pizzapoosta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tek512 ik its 2 years later but :(

    • @nikosmegagiannis
      @nikosmegagiannis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tek512 Damn..That’s sad for future reincarnations of Fei.

  • @sisepuedemaybe
    @sisepuedemaybe 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Also, 3rd Gen Fei, a.k.a Lacan, possesses Current Gen Fei's dad's body.
    In other words, the past reincarnation of our main character possesses the body of the father of our main character.
    WTF?!!!!!!

    • @tuantrananh4015
      @tuantrananh4015 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      this late but i think Lacan is 4 gen Fei,3 gen is the scientist i think forgot his name

    • @sun-extinguisher
      @sun-extinguisher 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tuấn Trần Anh 1.Abel 2.Kim 3.Lacan/Gruaf/wiseman/Fei’s father,4.Fei/Id .....deep

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How could that be? In all the thousands of years there’s only Bering four Feis? No. There’s been about as many Feis as there’s been Elly’s and Myangs - over 600, I think I read in a perfect works.

  • @manganiaco
    @manganiaco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for keeping this.

  • @keioII
    @keioII 12 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    And during that whole thing, Citan and Bart were like watching drama sitting by the side eating popcorns. ;>

    • @lazuardialdi2646
      @lazuardialdi2646 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      keioII woooohooooo lol 😂

    • @Arthirias
      @Arthirias 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I sure as hell would have done the same.

    • @Kiddo_X
      @Kiddo_X 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jumping out of their seats and shit at the revelations...!🤣🤣🤣

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They’re amazed and in disbelief of their place in this long drama.

  • @futureicon23
    @futureicon23 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Fei = Kenshin, Id = Battousai, Elly = Kaoru/Tomoe, Grahf = Shishio

    • @justhomas83
      @justhomas83 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice break down.

  • @jonathansmith7065
    @jonathansmith7065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    THIS IS THE GREATEST GAME I HAVE EVER PLAYED!!!!! STILL SO MANY YEARS LATER I CAN REMEMBER HOW MUCH I ENJOYED PLAYING THIS GAME!!!! THE STORY WAS SO EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I ONLY EVEN WANTED BECAUSE OF THE MECH ON THE COVER!!!!! LITTLE DID I KNOW HOW AWESOME IT WOULD BE!!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @seafoam6119
      @seafoam6119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amen to that bruddah

  • @duskcrawler
    @duskcrawler 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Perfect Works disagrees with you.
    "It's growth is relayed to the mother-child relationship, as well as the pain caused by the experiences lived in each era as the Contact, the painful experiments and the contact with Zonar in Lacan's time, all of which have a huge effect."
    All relating to Id. You can clearly see Lacan/Grahf as Id for a moment and the fact that repeated experiences are a common thing with the Contact, it points to that as well.

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good observation! I think Id is only the Contact’s feral, defensive response to intense, traumatic stimuli in whatever age he was aware in. Grahf is just Id with a mask on.

  • @johnnyscifi
    @johnnyscifi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always found ID to be terrifying

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine the levels of sadomasochism he can enact!

  • @Arthirias
    @Arthirias 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @7:47 read all of WE's lines as if it was Elhaym talking to Fei. It will give you get the Gnosis Goddess Sophia.

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting point of view.

  • @ultimateblong
    @ultimateblong 10 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    What happens next?.....WHAT HAPPENS NEXT??!!?! *flips table*

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Square became a crap company - a lot of their great talents left due to lack of support and now we get the crap they put out. End of.

  • @lazuardialdi2646
    @lazuardialdi2646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    24:40
    Wait... this "Our mother" has Decayed into Bones?

  • @Dumpstermuffin1
    @Dumpstermuffin1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Plot was to complex for the Final Fantasy series so they made it's own game. Im glad they did...Xenogears is my favorite RPG

  • @leong9
    @leong9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Proposed to be FF7 but turn out Xenogears. Awesome game with such low budget (Disc2 is due to low budget, Worth a remake then any FF series)

    • @chujenwu5895
      @chujenwu5895 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or remade into an anime series.

    • @jjanb789
      @jjanb789 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I play in childhood without knowing story . Now i start to learn it again . It is great story than FF series. Wanna remake than FF 7

    • @gatst7680
      @gatst7680 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Turn out it had to do with time constraints

    • @sharilshahed6106
      @sharilshahed6106 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really, it had the budget of any final fantasy games. Problem is it needed MUCH more to finish. Combine that with the time constraint, Disc 2 happened.

    • @SuperElite27000000
      @SuperElite27000000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      FF6 had a really awesome story, and the best FF villain of all.

  • @justinpeabody1693
    @justinpeabody1693 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    in psychoanalysis therapy, the id is the unconscious part of our minds and ego.....

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not unconscious, subconscious. The subconscious (many other aspects of your personality within) takes the stage when you’re unconscious (asleep). This relates from Sigmund Freud, the father of psychoanalysis. He described the human character as aspects that can be divided into three elements: ego(base personality/manager), superego (judgmental) and Id (sexual, violent impulsivity - or the Shadow as Jung later described it).

  • @duskcrawler
    @duskcrawler 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I most definitely agree that it is a very engaging story that gets difficult from time to time that even missing a single, seemingly insignificant detail can get you confused later on. People asking why Fei changes into Id seem to always miss the fact that life events of the Contact affect the later reincarnations of the Contact which shows how Fei can change into Id. I at first didn't get it but the more I play it, the more I notice things which shows how Xenogears is so brilliant!

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right, transmigration of trauma can re-traumatize the following lines of the Contact. It can’t be said that there’s an evolution, there. Some get crushed like Abel and Lacan, while others find a way to bear through the pain and persevere like Kim and Fei*(at least some aspects of him - not his coward self).

  • @duskcrawler
    @duskcrawler 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you don't mind me adding onto understanding Grahf and Id, I'd like to point out the Zohar Modifier is the reason why Fei can change into Id. As Lacan split his soul and essence because of his imperfect contact, Grahf ended up being a part of the Contact. Think of it like Elly continually sacrificing herself in every life she lived. Well that sort of happened with Lacan and Fei, they manifested another side to them thanks to that encounter. Hope that makes some sense there too.

  • @duskcrawler
    @duskcrawler 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is that even mentioned? PW says different and since PW offers explanations not available in game I'm coming with that. And Id can use his full power as you can clearly tell, he somehow remembers everything about his existence as a Contact when he explains it to Fei. Id knows everything of his power and how to use it unlike Fei prior to merging with Id. The whole merging thing didn't give Fei anymore power, it just unified all the personas. Sadly, we never see Fei use it like how Id does.

  • @IBroLLyISePhIrOtH
    @IBroLLyISePhIrOtH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So ID Become Grahf or they are 2 separate entities? wich one is stronger? who is who? why i see 3 feis?

    • @Aka-293
      @Aka-293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Grahf is a separate entity. He is the spiritual manifestation of the 3rd Incarnation of the Contact. He was originally Lacan. But Lacan died and his will lived on
      Id is the split personality of Fei.

    • @raymond9290
      @raymond9290 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Grafh is the desire and ambition of lacan that still live even though the body & soul (lacan ) died

    • @IBroLLyISePhIrOtH
      @IBroLLyISePhIrOtH 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@raymond9290

  • @duskcrawler
    @duskcrawler 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always thought Shin Megami Tensei stomped the crap out of most Final Fantasy titles and those titles still stay good (outside of Persona). Shin Megami Tensei IV looks badass.

  • @williamnone
    @williamnone 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    let me put in a interesting note for anyone who watches this video. The person who designed the mecha for this game also designed the mecha for another hit video game on the PS2. Look at how Grahf's gear always stands with its arms crossed. The attitude and motivations of Grahf. They seem quite familiar if you think about it....

    • @dzonatangavert1408
      @dzonatangavert1408 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +williamcaii
      Please do tell...

    • @williamnone
      @williamnone 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zone of Enders. Especially the frame known as Anubis. Check out pictures of the mech and you'll see the similarities.

    • @barricade8957
      @barricade8957 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      (3 year old post, but what the hell).
      Umm, nope. The guy who did Xenogears worked on G Gundam, Turn A Gundam, and Gundam Wing. His name is Junya Ishigaki.
      MGS's & ZOE's artist is Yoji Shinkawa, who didn't even start working on console gaming until 1994, the year AFTER Xenogears came out, and started at Konami on Policenauts.

    • @williamnone
      @williamnone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barricade8957 you're right actually, my apologies. Maybe Shinkawa was inspired by the designs in Xenogears, who knows. But thank you for answering my post more then 3 years later. Kinda makes me happy inside. I've always had a soft spot for Xenogears. I played this game while I was in college and it has stuck with me ever since. Maybe one day we'll get a true awakened remake of this great game!

  • @shadowluminary9687
    @shadowluminary9687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 2022 I desperately wish to play this game till the day I die

  • @sisepuedemaybe
    @sisepuedemaybe 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    No I wonder I couldn't get any of this plot in 7th grade. Hell, I don't get it now!!!
    But in a nutshell...young boy(1st generation Fei/pokemon) on the spaceship saw the Zohar machine-thing that traps "God's" will inside. 1st Gen. Fei wishes for a mommy, the machine reacts to the wish and creates 1st Gen. Elly.
    So in effect, some disturbing Oedipus complex thing going on...or something. I have no fucking clue lol

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True. Elly was meant to be a caretaker (mother) to Abel (Fei) but later would became his lover! It’s the whole Devouring Mother complex - pretty toxic stuff.

    • @alirezaie6263
      @alirezaie6263 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, Perfect Works states that Abel and Elly's relationship was that of a boy and its mother, nothing more. It's after the 2nd incarnation (Kim and Elly) that it turns into a romantic relationship. But in some turn yes, it has its Oedipus complex since all Contacs (Abel/Kim/Lacan/Fei) and Anti-types (Elly) remember their past lives.

  • @yancymcbath3050
    @yancymcbath3050 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    What song is that, that begins at 14:24?

  • @AspieGamer1986
    @AspieGamer1986 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Personality wise there are some similarities between Citan Uzuki & Jin Uzuki from XenoSaga.
    XenoGears > XenoSaga.

    • @williamnone
      @williamnone 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that is actually on purpose. Xenosaga the spiritual successor to Xenogears or maybe predecessor, or prequel.

    • @markkram8178
      @markkram8178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is old as hell and you may already know this but in xenosaga 3 there is a secret boss with weltal and halfway through, it activates system id....its night and day. Hard fight too

  • @alvinchimp1392
    @alvinchimp1392 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:45 misspelling stabalize its supposed to be stabilize.

  • @XiloChannel
    @XiloChannel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I took one look at the thumbnail and saw Karen's face and It reminded me of how sick she was.

    • @Tython82
      @Tython82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Technically that wasn't Karen but Miang possessing Karen.

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This game predicted wokery. It was the first to show how horrible Karens were.

  • @alx5695
    @alx5695 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just love this game so much

  • @Btotts
    @Btotts 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Speeding through this scene, huh?

  • @Blaisem
    @Blaisem 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wheeeree's Kishin?

  • @TheJK89
    @TheJK89 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:57

    • @lazuardialdi2646
      @lazuardialdi2646 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What???

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fei visually dims and changes in color (likely for artistic sensibility).

  • @AshMenon
    @AshMenon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting how they talk about reincarnations, but then talk about memories stored in DNA introns. So Fei, Kim, Lacan, etc, are they reincarnations or descendants?

    • @tuantrananh4015
      @tuantrananh4015 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yep reincarnations not descendants fei main character is 5th gen,Lancan 4th gen,Kim is 3th gen same with elly

    • @sun-extinguisher
      @sun-extinguisher 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      1.Abel 2.Kim 3.Lacan/Grahf/wiseman as Fei’s father 4.Fei/Id

    • @manpotion
      @manpotion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Abel is born in T.C. 4760 (either on board the Eldridge or on the planet it was built) and is 7 years old when the opening cutscene begins, meaning the T.C. epoch ends at 4767
      In E.C. 0011 Abel and Elhaym are murdered by Cain and the Gazel ministry for refusing to go along with their plans for the newly born humanity
      In E.C. 6055 Kim is born during the Zeboim era, where due to genetic damage Elly's incarnation can't give birth, prompting him to later create Emeralda
      In E.C. 6083 Miang tries to steal Emeralda and Elly is murdered while Kim seals himself in his lab" (presumably he dies shortly after either from starvation or suicide)
      In E.C. 9475 (3392 years later) Lacan is born around the same time as Sophia, Elly's next reincarnation
      In E.C. 9500 Sophia sacrifices herself to destroy Merkava (which is being used by the Solarian empire as its main warship), causing Lacan to turn into Grahf a year later when he makes contact with the Zohar
      In E.C. 9981 Fei is born, along with yet another Elly
      In E.C. 9999 the events of the main storyline take place
      It's possible both Fei and Elly have other past incarnations, but we're never shown them

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@manpotion very nice! And yes, it’s likely that there were many other instances of Feis and Ellys rather than just those four. It’s just that their lives were not noteworthy enough to mention or affected the subsequent ones to large enough degree as those four have. Myang had over 600 versions of herself but she’s different in that as soon as one dies another is taken over; similar to how Lacan later evolved to do. No version of Elly ever learned to do this. She always seem to be born around the same time as the Contact.

  • @dingliedangliedoodle9261
    @dingliedangliedoodle9261 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    just like Neon Genesis Evangelion I still have problem fully grasping the plot, happy Fei got laid with Elly though...Time to dig up my PS or PS2, maybe I'll get it this time.

  • @MrDodolidodolipet
    @MrDodolidodolipet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    so when Lacan loses his consciousness he becomes id too ??

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Id is the result of the Contact’s second contact with Zohar. Otherwise he would/should’ve appeared back with Abel and Kim when their Ellys were killed. It was only Lacan, after Sophia (Elly) was killed and he was manipulated into seeking Zohar by Myang, that Id was able to manifest itself from that point on.

  • @donaldjones1325
    @donaldjones1325 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ain't ever played xenogears but it seems like and epic rpg

  • @teacheroftheages
    @teacheroftheages 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Xenogears is a mechanical lavos if you ask me

  • @DimitrisGizmo
    @DimitrisGizmo ปีที่แล้ว

    🔥🔥❤

  • @ChrisLeeX
    @ChrisLeeX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ultimate payoff is here.

  • @williamwalker8734
    @williamwalker8734 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok so, having played this game decades ago and coming back to it now, this seems like a TON of plot exposition that is being manifested in just GALLONS of word vomit. The game is just saying "BLAH!" trying to get it all out at once. I had to pause, go back, re-read the text over and over again and It's all just so metaphysical and non-sensical that I am turning on it. It's just not as good as I remember.

  • @FabledHero
    @FabledHero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello my friends

    • @ronmaest
      @ronmaest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, you.

  • @lightninggale
    @lightninggale 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nanatsu No Taizai's love story of Meliodas and Elizabeth was based in here haha

  • @luckymiftah5457
    @luckymiftah5457 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Family with buttload of psychiatric multiple personality disorders....

    • @teacheroftheages
      @teacheroftheages 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @williamrobinson889
    @williamrobinson889 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remake xenogears

  • @saidhardiansyah5415
    @saidhardiansyah5415 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Small arms and legs, too much spikes...I love weltall-2 better than xenogears...