He was told on stream today that you can't find the secret room with infinite ammo weapons, so he has learned now. Might take a while for the backlog to catch up though.
I left Gungeon to watch this episode of Gungeon Yo so real talk today i decided to play Super Punch Out to check out where the inspiration for the rat fight came from and it's friggin hard
My dude, lemme tell you. I spent enough quarters in the Punch Out arcade machine as a child to put my own children through college. That game is brutal and brilliant.
You inspired me to buy this game! Turns out, you're actually good at this game, compared to my disastrous gameplay. Also, this is almost as fun to play as it is to watch you play... almost ;)
Don't worry I'm terrible too! Doesn't help I don't want to play my PC version since it wiped my progress and play on the switch only now. Which is daunting in handheld after like 20 minutes laying down. Eggs speed to you and enjoy the game fellow gamer.
NL, it's always better to save the orange when you have more than a heart of health instead of using it immediately. On the gunslinger run, if you had waited until you were at low HP on the lich fight to use the orange you would have doubled your odds of winning, because you would have effectively doubled the heart value of your 8 heart containers plus the additional heart container, as opposed to getting the value of just one additional heart container by using it as soon as you get it.
Man, I read your comment before watching the video, and I though "Why is this guy bringing up the last paradox run again?" Then I watched him eat the orange :(
I think the wasted heal may be offset by the immediate gain of 2 coolness points that the orange gives when used. He ended up not needing the heal in the end so I would say that he made the right choice.
@@Index154 Debatable, the orange is a full heal. If you're fighting the litch or something it's invaluable if you start dropping health. It's won me the game a few times.
Some thoughts (spoilers ahead): > More Paradox! > The last Paradox/Gunslinger run was pretty good. I believe that NL could have survived it has he prepared appropriately, if he knew that the Gunslinger's past was just a regular Bullet Hell floor, with his items intact. > Hey, NL: Way back when in Gungeon's history, there was a time when you could use Blasphemy to look for secret rooms. Those things have since been patched. If your gun has infinite ammo, you cannot find a secret room with it! > Hey, NL: I know you even asked yourself "why did I stand so close to him" after you took immediate damage against Gatling Gull, but seriously, why did you stand so close to him?! > The Rat fight can reward you with a *ton* of advantages in a run, but you need to a) survive, b) get as many keys from the Rat as possible, and c) punch out as many items from the Rat as possible. This basically boils down to, you should look up how to get keys from the Rat and keep practicing it when you can. > Orange! "Obviously we should use it as a full heal... but, we could also just use it right away." NL! At the very least save it in case you find the vampire who buys your HP, or in case you take damage, or find a better active item. Speaking of which, *you have Utility Belt*! You can hold *two* active items! You never bothered to look at what your starting item was as the Paradox! If you die one hit away from winning the run I swear to god I swear to god I'll still keep watching but will momentarily furrow my brow! > Monster Blood. Yet another heart container to benefit from a full heal later in the run. smh > NL completely correct about the Turtles about to die on the boss. The thing about the Turtles is they do a ton of contact damage, so they benefit from a quick and maneuverable playstyle, running around the enemies. > So NL complained about the missiles from Beholster taking two shots to kill when using the Winchester. The thing is, they normally take two shots to kill! A weapon with piercing (like the Blasphemy) makes it more likely to kill them in a single shot, and shotguns make short work of the missiles. But a sniper rifle-like weapon is poor to use against them. > If the Dragun is Mom, then does that make the Lich Dad? > Table Tech Rocket? More like Table Tech Trash-it! > It took me until NL said "spacebar item" to realize that Large Boy was Big Boy. Is Dan's wearing off on Egg? > Winchester Rifle (brown) + Trick Gun (blue) munched into Tear Jerker (blue). Quality wise, the trade was acceptable, but the actual resulting gun from the transaction makes me want to Q_Q. > I actually love NL theorizing about what to use against floor bosses on chamber four. It proves he's starting to think ahead more, and is getting more comfortable with Gungeon! Big Boy is great against Kill Pillars since you damage four of them at the same time and you destroy their bullets without breaking them out of their attack patterns. And Quad Laser is great against the Wall because you're never going to miss your shot. > Hey, NL: Tear Jerker can put out wicks. It shoots tears. > SAA is worth keeping, when bouncing shots it does great damage and "kind of" homes in. I find it amusing that NL is happy with the Magnum when the SAA is comparable. For NL's playstyle, the RPG would have been worth munching instead, had he waited before gun munching. Also, if you're going to munch, if the gun is decent at least use the ammo in it first! Let this be a lesson to everyone! > Forge is a little late to be using the Sawed Off Shotgun. Even the Witch Pistol is probably better, but the SAA, Pulse Cannon, are both decent room clearers. Experiment! > Rocket Powered Bullets is another damage upgrade, and would make Quad Laser better because the projectiles would travel faster. Worth considering! > Speaking of damage, the stacking damage of +1 Bullets (25%) and the earlier shrine (25%) is making Pulse Cannon tear through enemies in Bullet Hell! > Well, at least NL didn't die with one hit remaining on the Lich! > See everyone in part 2 tomorrow!
Don't stress it NL. It's pretty much always infuriating to listen to you for two floors, but that's like just the contract I signed when I got into the video.
It's not that Melee weapons can't open secret rooms, it's that STARTING weapons can't. I'm pretty sure Casey can, but Blasphemy can't cuz it's the Bullet's starting weapon. I could be wrong, might just be any weapon with infinite ammo can't reveal secret rooms.
I just notice that the name of the Oubliette Floor is actually Blobulord. The hole time I was just thinking that NL was just calling it like this because it is a Blob and he keeps giving Lord to the names. i.e. Bonelord from Isaac
Cant go to sleep without my gungeon run. But why do you have to uploade always at midnight or after (at my time zone) Haha. Still I cant resist from staying up to watch
NL, from one Gungeoneer to an aspiring one. The Magnum is a very powerful weapons. Watching you waste an entire mag on every target is painful. Please use the Magnum more like the megahand. It will serve you well
One of these days NL will realize that you can't find secret rooms with Blasphemy. Probably not though. Guess I'll see you guys tomorrow to see if NL actually wins the Gunslinger run or not, honestly I kind of hope that he doesn't because I'm not sure I could handle watching him do more Rat attempts right now.
You know, you can just give stuff to the sell creep you don't want to get money without going to the extra level on the fourth floor. Gives you extra money for the blacksmith in floor 5.
your mouse has been broken for years its not even a very expensive part buy a new one im starting to think your weapon choices are just the random glitching of your mouse
Wait a minute: Big Boy stops Death from spawning into mortal realm? Thats a nice find NL. UPD: Its actually mutate them into, well, mutant bullets. Huh.
Duuuuude cactus is fucking god tier on the gunslinger. I remember using it to clear out all the bosses and clearing bullet hell.And the moment you see lil bomber, especially early on a run you swurve your curve to get that shit. It's wombo combo of synergies give you money for days. You could probably have your own scrooge mcduck casing bin by the end of a lil bomber gunslinger run. I think it grants money for every bomb that physically touches an enemy.
@@BigKillaJoke I think it gives more when it hits an enemy but even if it doesn't hit anything casings still drop. Black hole gun is also an instant win every time it shows up. and then some things you would assume to be great are very disappointing, lower case r and mega hand for instance..
@@TheShut1 It unlocks all the alternate firing modes but they are pretty bad by themselves, the gunslinger is overpowered because of synergy juxtaposition. You have the cactus, you fire like... 3 shots, room is clear. Black hole gun, you fire once, all bullets are neutralized, every enemy take loads of damage. Megahand; yeah you can fire bubbles i guess....
@@pmangano Its because those synergies are homage to original game, rather than something thats improving the gun. If you could shoot all modes at once it would probably crash the game anyway. Still good as room clearer.
He probably did it for the heart + coolness. It probably would have been more effective to save it for later but he did eventually buy big boi so he probably would have used it prematurely anyway. Atleast he got the coolness from it.
Still tries to find secret rooms with the blasphemy. Will eggman ever learn?
To be fair, it USED to work once upon a time.
@@ChargeQM has ever ever find one with the blasphemy? I remember him not doing it when it was a thing.
He was told on stream today that you can't find the secret room with infinite ammo weapons, so he has learned now. Might take a while for the backlog to catch up though.
he also still shoots chests with non-infinite guns, thus is life.
he's trying to unlock the gunslinger again, bless you egg
I left Gungeon to watch this episode of Gungeon
Yo so real talk today i decided to play Super Punch Out to check out where the inspiration for the rat fight came from and it's friggin hard
Baby Pigman
Keep your priorities straight
My dude, lemme tell you. I spent enough quarters in the Punch Out arcade machine as a child to put my own children through college.
That game is brutal and brilliant.
@@eliasrostad943 Yet some people can do the entire run blind folded, insane.
@@AdamBennett-ff7pe It absolutely is. Nothing but respect.
I was wondering did you unlock the robot??
I just did.
NL, stop putting [episode/?] just admit you love the game and wanna make it a whole series. You can't fool us with the ? anymore.
THIS. Please make this a regular series of the channel, like Isaac and Spire. Probably instead of Spire.
@@radikalskippy Nah, if anything trade it with Isaac.
Elsass Lotharingen He did say that Isaac might also end, not today, but someday... And when that day comes might be the saddest day in history.
Solis Dave I’m dreading that day, but dread it, run from it, destiny arrives all the same
Make sure to kill myself before that day comes so i dont have to dread it
Rocket bullets are damage and speed up NL! It would've made quad laser better too
The damage up is very low (10%). It's definitely worth getting but not really noticeable
The quad laser, noone can defeat the quad laser.
@@ImEverythingYouCrave The bullets are massive! Jumping is useless!
We were blessed with another try to unlock the gunslinger in less than a weeks time. Thank you Eggman
Press F for all those brave but slightly suicidal turtles.
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he left behind ice breaker and rocket powered bullets just to get 1 armor @_@
NL i'm not sure you knew this but no one can defeat the quad laser. The bullet is ENORMOUS there is NO escaping.
Northernlion: Please don't tell me meele weapons can't find secret rooms
Okay I won't
[judgemental comment before video is old enough for me to have watched it]
SHUT THE FUCK UP FURRY
very obvious things that he still doesnt learn from
@@requiem7516 and i love you random citizen
Requiem
>Shut the fuck up furry
>JoJo manga profile pic
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha man do we love hurting those most similar to us
@@requiem7516 Furrydom is for people who aren't pussies. Your balls are so undescended they're in your eyesockets.
Blasphemy will quickly become the new Mom's Knife
You inspired me to buy this game! Turns out, you're actually good at this game, compared to my disastrous gameplay. Also, this is almost as fun to play as it is to watch you play... almost ;)
Don't worry I'm terrible too! Doesn't help I don't want to play my PC version since it wiped my progress and play on the switch only now. Which is daunting in handheld after like 20 minutes laying down. Eggs speed to you and enjoy the game fellow gamer.
Same here!
Don’t worry man you’ll get better soon
What is better for this game a controller or keyboard and mouse
Personally, I'm a mouse and keyboard guy. But I actually also got this on the switch. It's not too bad with twin sticks, either.
I can't believe he did it with the meme gun that is the quad laser. The absolute madman.
No one can defeat the quad laser.
every time NL refers to an enemy without the proper "Lord" suffix I cry
NL, it's always better to save the orange when you have more than a heart of health instead of using it immediately. On the gunslinger run, if you had waited until you were at low HP on the lich fight to use the orange you would have doubled your odds of winning, because you would have effectively doubled the heart value of your 8 heart containers plus the additional heart container, as opposed to getting the value of just one additional heart container by using it as soon as you get it.
Man, I read your comment before watching the video, and I though "Why is this guy bringing up the last paradox run again?" Then I watched him eat the orange :(
Only exception is if you have another good active item option, which I believe was the case last round.
Thank you for refraining from profanity and calling it Bullet Heck.
Map maker doesn't count the secret room
“One of the weirdo pistols” egg I know you’re Canadian but Jesus man, the SAA is an icon.
But why use the orange immediately...when you don’t even have another active item?
Top psychologists are working on it right now, looking for an answer.
I think the wasted heal may be offset by the immediate gain of 2 coolness points that the orange gives when used. He ended up not needing the heal in the end so I would say that he made the right choice.
Yes, definitely. Using the Orange early means you will get more room drops throughout the remaining floors. The heal is usually needless
@@Index154 Debatable, the orange is a full heal. If you're fighting the litch or something it's invaluable if you start dropping health. It's won me the game a few times.
Good job on doing that twice now and good luck on your second try....I'm rooting for you
666 hegemony credits monkaS
has high damage gun with super slow bullets
DOESN'T GET THE FASTER BULLET ITEM FROM SHOP!
24:55 “The thing about quad laser is- The bullets are enormous, there is no escape.” The Cannonbalorg teleports way from quad laser two bullets
Liked your videos so much I forgot to subscribe. Your self imposed banter to yourself is hilarious. Thanks for laughs!
Welcome to the community! Hope you like it here!
Complains about quad laser slow bullets. Ignores a big bullet speed and dmg upgrade
Classic weird egg of the gungeon
That title had me worried, but you have proven my doubts wrong, and thusly I thank you
Me: he's not actually trying to find secret rooms with a starting weapon surely
NL: don't tell me melee weapons can't discover secret rooms
Me: oh.........oh dear....
Some thoughts (spoilers ahead):
> More Paradox!
> The last Paradox/Gunslinger run was pretty good. I believe that NL could have survived it has he prepared appropriately, if he knew that the Gunslinger's past was just a regular Bullet Hell floor, with his items intact.
> Hey, NL: Way back when in Gungeon's history, there was a time when you could use Blasphemy to look for secret rooms. Those things have since been patched. If your gun has infinite ammo, you cannot find a secret room with it!
> Hey, NL: I know you even asked yourself "why did I stand so close to him" after you took immediate damage against Gatling Gull, but seriously, why did you stand so close to him?!
> The Rat fight can reward you with a *ton* of advantages in a run, but you need to a) survive, b) get as many keys from the Rat as possible, and c) punch out as many items from the Rat as possible. This basically boils down to, you should look up how to get keys from the Rat and keep practicing it when you can.
> Orange! "Obviously we should use it as a full heal... but, we could also just use it right away." NL! At the very least save it in case you find the vampire who buys your HP, or in case you take damage, or find a better active item. Speaking of which, *you have Utility Belt*! You can hold *two* active items! You never bothered to look at what your starting item was as the Paradox! If you die one hit away from winning the run I swear to god I swear to god I'll still keep watching but will momentarily furrow my brow!
> Monster Blood. Yet another heart container to benefit from a full heal later in the run. smh
> NL completely correct about the Turtles about to die on the boss. The thing about the Turtles is they do a ton of contact damage, so they benefit from a quick and maneuverable playstyle, running around the enemies.
> So NL complained about the missiles from Beholster taking two shots to kill when using the Winchester. The thing is, they normally take two shots to kill! A weapon with piercing (like the Blasphemy) makes it more likely to kill them in a single shot, and shotguns make short work of the missiles. But a sniper rifle-like weapon is poor to use against them.
> If the Dragun is Mom, then does that make the Lich Dad?
> Table Tech Rocket? More like Table Tech Trash-it!
> It took me until NL said "spacebar item" to realize that Large Boy was Big Boy. Is Dan's wearing off on Egg?
> Winchester Rifle (brown) + Trick Gun (blue) munched into Tear Jerker (blue). Quality wise, the trade was acceptable, but the actual resulting gun from the transaction makes me want to Q_Q.
> I actually love NL theorizing about what to use against floor bosses on chamber four. It proves he's starting to think ahead more, and is getting more comfortable with Gungeon! Big Boy is great against Kill Pillars since you damage four of them at the same time and you destroy their bullets without breaking them out of their attack patterns. And Quad Laser is great against the Wall because you're never going to miss your shot.
> Hey, NL: Tear Jerker can put out wicks. It shoots tears.
> SAA is worth keeping, when bouncing shots it does great damage and "kind of" homes in. I find it amusing that NL is happy with the Magnum when the SAA is comparable. For NL's playstyle, the RPG would have been worth munching instead, had he waited before gun munching. Also, if you're going to munch, if the gun is decent at least use the ammo in it first! Let this be a lesson to everyone!
> Forge is a little late to be using the Sawed Off Shotgun. Even the Witch Pistol is probably better, but the SAA, Pulse Cannon, are both decent room clearers. Experiment!
> Rocket Powered Bullets is another damage upgrade, and would make Quad Laser better because the projectiles would travel faster. Worth considering!
> Speaking of damage, the stacking damage of +1 Bullets (25%) and the earlier shrine (25%) is making Pulse Cannon tear through enemies in Bullet Hell!
> Well, at least NL didn't die with one hit remaining on the Lich!
> See everyone in part 2 tomorrow!
"We should be using the witch pistol, or maybe the pulse cannon"
Proceeds to keep using sawed off
Northernlion would make a mean Dr.Venture.
Change my mind
Man that blank you never used while also getting hit all the time will save the day! Someday...
I haven't played in a few years, but you can't find secret rooms with starting weapons right?
You cant find secret rooms with guns with infinite ammo e.g. starting weapons
Before updates the meele attack of Blasphemy could reveal the secret rooms, its obviously not possible anymore.
19:50 that athf reference was so good
Egg used Orange!
It wasn’t very effective...
Why would he ever use a full heal when on full health if he doesn't even have another active item he rather wants to carry. Why my dude.
hey NL there have been wizard of legend updates that you should bring to youtube
The update really hasnt changed the game tho. Its still pretty much exactly the same.
Trashcannon + junk + starpew and scatter bullets gave me my first lich kill. it's insanely good.
Starpew is just unbelievably good anyway. Love that thing.
Don't stress it NL. It's pretty much always infuriating to listen to you for two floors, but that's like just the contract I signed when I got into the video.
Where's Nuclear Throne?
Every time I see you get to the gunslinger playing round I go and do it myself to stay at the same pace as you
dear egg,
mapman doesn't require knowledge of the secret room, nor does he require knowledge of the boss room or exit
thank you
Here however, he did require a key, which was already spent elsewhere.
NL when he picks up the turtles: "this seems useless"
NL 20 minutes later: "My turtles!"
He did say they were cute
It's not that Melee weapons can't open secret rooms, it's that STARTING weapons can't. I'm pretty sure Casey can, but Blasphemy can't cuz it's the Bullet's starting weapon. I could be wrong, might just be any weapon with infinite ammo can't reveal secret rooms.
I feel it may be easier to hold control while switching weapons to minimize wrong switching in heat of battle 😅
I don't know why, but I really like the two-parters.
I just notice that the name of the Oubliette Floor is actually Blobulord. The hole time I was just thinking that NL was just calling it like this because it is a Blob and he keeps giving Lord to the names.
i.e. Bonelord from Isaac
Thanks for the video, big daddy egg!
That ending was stressful as hell, holy moly
Tear jerker + d pad is an amazing synergy
Here we go bois, its the Paradox again
with the fcking blasphemy holy sht
Cant go to sleep without my gungeon run. But why do you have to uploade always at midnight or after (at my time zone) Haha. Still I cant resist from staying up to watch
BeFree just skip a day, my dude
The first commenter here almost got me. Genius name.
East coast beast coast boyeeeez
Alex Edwards O:)
Not saving the orange = Smelly Egg.
He hasn't realized that infinite ammo weapons don't find secret rooms.
To be fair blasphemy could be used to find secret rooms with the melee swipes at one point. It probably got patched sometime after NL quit gungeon.
NL, from one Gungeoneer to an aspiring one. The Magnum is a very powerful weapons. Watching you waste an entire mag on every target is painful. Please use the Magnum more like the megahand. It will serve you well
One of these days NL will realize that you can't find secret rooms with Blasphemy. Probably not though.
Guess I'll see you guys tomorrow to see if NL actually wins the Gunslinger run or not, honestly I kind of hope that he doesn't because I'm not sure I could handle watching him do more Rat attempts right now.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t blasphemy’s status as a “starter weapon” preclude it from being able to find secret rooms?
Correct
You know, you can just give stuff to the sell creep you don't want to get money without going to the extra level on the fourth floor. Gives you extra money for the blacksmith in floor 5.
Why wouldn't you take rocket powered bullets when your main boss killer take 8 hours to reach its target?
And here we go again, looking for secretrooms with the startergun 😅
In his defense it did work with the melee of the blasphemy at one point
Melee weapons can't discover secret rooms
on a regular run, plz go to the old king's floor.
ty egg
The Dragun stood no chance. Jumping was useless.
Damn Good Job! Hard run
Holy shit ive never been this early to see egg get his teeth kicked in by gungeon
Blasphemy can't show you secret rooms
Holy HELL he actually did it
Genius? Tearjerker.
how many times do you think he redid the intro to get the blasphemy again
Ladies and gentleman, this is Mambo Number 5!
Nl would have unlocked gunslinger if he didnt use orange the instant he found it. Looks like he didnt learn his lesson.
Could you use an eye tracker for one of these runs? I think itd be pretty cool to watch.
I’m so mad he didn’t take rocket powered bullets on the forge... would’ve made quad laser much more effective
probably shouldve saved the orange for a full heal
Beholster rockets take 2 shots no matter what gun you're using no difference if it's a .38 special or a railgun.
Protect the small turtle children
your mouse has been broken for years
its not even a very expensive part
buy a new one
im starting to think your weapon choices are just the random glitching of your mouse
This game is so good.
Paradox run lets go!!
"MY TURTLES!"
"MY TURTLES!!!" xD
Wait a minute: Big Boy stops Death from spawning into mortal realm? Thats a nice find NL.
UPD: Its actually mutate them into, well, mutant bullets. Huh.
Go on son! Get in!
The Orange is going to be the new Diplopia *lionsigh
NL still did learn to save the orange. He wasn't even holding another active. =(
He's _definitely_ not Alexander... :-/
That trash canon play was actually genius tier.
@@bamboospout It was, but at the same time I was kinda like. "But you had tear jerker dude!"
Nice run egg boy. Also you’ve played enough gungeon. You know you can’t show secret rooms with starting weapons...
Dudeee the rocket bullets have a damage bonuse
31:00
Has the Tear Jerker.
Makes it extra hard on himself by using the Trash Cannon.
Calls himself a genius.
Oh, you're special alright.
Infinite ammo guns dont reveal secret rooms Egg Lord
Forget weapon rankings with the gunslinger, some very bad weapons are stupidly overpowered with him.
cactus and nail gun for instance.
Duuuuude cactus is fucking god tier on the gunslinger. I remember using it to clear out all the bosses and clearing bullet hell.And the moment you see lil bomber, especially early on a run you swurve your curve to get that shit. It's wombo combo of synergies give you money for days. You could probably have your own scrooge mcduck casing bin by the end of a lil bomber gunslinger run. I think it grants money for every bomb that physically touches an enemy.
@@BigKillaJoke I think it gives more when it hits an enemy but even if it doesn't hit anything casings still drop.
Black hole gun is also an instant win every time it shows up.
and then some things you would assume to be great are very disappointing, lower case r and mega hand for instance..
@@pmangano Why mega hand? Except the fact that its really good room clearer even without synergies.
@@TheShut1 It unlocks all the alternate firing modes but they are pretty bad by themselves, the gunslinger is overpowered because of synergy juxtaposition.
You have the cactus, you fire like... 3 shots, room is clear.
Black hole gun, you fire once, all bullets are neutralized, every enemy take loads of damage.
Megahand; yeah you can fire bubbles i guess....
@@pmangano Its because those synergies are homage to original game, rather than something thats improving the gun. If you could shoot all modes at once it would probably crash the game anyway. Still good as room clearer.
I shot the mimic!
But I did not shoot the secret wall...
I had to let it out, sorry.
so what passive did he start with?
MY TURTLES!
Blasphemy doesn't secret room, you eggboy, also thx for the entertainment :P
"We don't have the map yet." He says while having the full map except for the map guy's room (and the boss room which is not required).
Poor 4th floor junk man ignored ever time
I just want you to explain to me why you use the orange instantly, I'm not mad i just really want to know why
He probably did it for the heart + coolness. It probably would have been more effective to save it for later but he did eventually buy big boi so he probably would have used it prematurely anyway. Atleast he got the coolness from it.
It's party time....
Have you ever tought of gungeon races w friends?
Does NL know the redish ammo gives ammo to all guns?
Yes
Egg disrespected the orange again. This doesnt bode well