I read an article about the B39 that stated that many seniors and disabled folks who have trouble using the subway use the B39 to cross the bridge. It's more of a utility than a bus route, but it does serve a purpose.
This bus route not only highlights the inequalities that people with disabilities face, but also what everyone on buses face as a result of the negative externalities of drivers in NYC. This route taking 20 minutes when it should take 5 is a really concrete example of why we need congestion pricing so badly.
I honestly disagree. Congestion pricing won't help transit or alleviate traffic, all it will do is allow for the wealthy and those who can pay the price to drive around, while the less fortunate, especially those living in isolated areas of the city with limited transit, will be screwed over. If you want to discourage driving, you should just ban it all together, although that would require a massive transit upgrade.
which will in turn send the traffic to other areas. Then that place will get congestion pricing and then the cycle continues. (Or from what other videos say anyway)
@@taxesv1nce142 If the proceeds of congestion pricing are used to fund transit in isolated areas of the city, though… Honestly, each bridge should have dedicated bus lanes and be tolled. I would also suggest replacing parking on streets with bus route with bus lanes. Let the drivers scream. (I won’t mention my belief that gas should have a 300% tax earmarked for mitigating climate change).
@@taxesv1nce142 Instead of congestion pricing, I agree that all of Manhattan south of 59th Street (not counting those driving on say the FDR Drive and West Side Highway) should have considered banning driving for non commercial drivers on most roads with very few exceptions. And truck deliveries made only between 8pm-7am and 7pm-8am weekends and holidays. Coordiors such as Broadway, 5th Avenue and 1st Avenue could even have 2 way traffic for buses as well. With that said, there was other ways other than following London with congestion pricing first without forcing tolls to enter the “city.”
B39 allows those with large families and others who don’t want any part of the J,M trains to transfer to other buses. I miss the B51 that used to go over the Manhattan Bridge between City Hall and Jay-Fulton Sts Downtown Brooklyn.
As someone whom loved to ride the B51 from Dwntwn Bklyn to City Hall, I still miss this route. Even on Fridays when the Manhattan Bridge was jam-packed.
The reason why this exists alongside the similar b-51 bus over the Manhattan Bridge is that these bus routes replace the old street cars or what Europeans call trams that ran over the bridge
When the Williamsburg Bridge was closed for summer 1999 due to reconstruction on the subway structure, the B39 was made free for those four months as a lifeline route connecting the severed BMT lines (a shuttle ran between Essex and Broad Street). The Williamsburg Bridge has been fully accessible since the new walkways and bike lanes opened in 2002.
Interesting this bus serves more of an ADA purpose than being a full route. And like how you're branching out into buses too. Would love a video on the B100 even though its not owned by the city and is a private line.
The B39 can be useful at times, lets just say something happened on the J/M/Z trains on the williamsburg bridge, they can reroute passengers to the b39 and the bus can service them to essex st.
Absolutely correct and at the same time why not extend it to City Hall the interborough rapid transit name for Chambers Street. Because some of the major Transit stations have IRT names. Queens Boulevard Roosevelt Avenue also known as 74th Street Broadway 63rd Street line Lexington Avenue 63rd Street 59th Street IRT.
Not really. If the JMZ died, I’m def not waiting half an hour for the next B39 just to get stuck in traffic on the bridge. Surly others can agree. Hell, they’ll probably get a few shuttle buses out before the next B39 can even make it back.
@@skrakaayyyyy_itzyostepThis. This happened to me one time; the subways were delayed over the bridge. JUST as the crowds started to show up to the bus stop at Williamsburg Bridge Plaza, the bus driver was pulling away. I feel like he saw us coming and decided to bolt away and not deal with us. Nah, I walked the bridge that day lol. That only takes 20 minutes.
MMRW actually the only “local” Brooklyn-Manhattan Bus Route. The X27/28/37/38 from the Bay Ridge/Coney Island areas and also the BM 1-2-3-4-5 from Southeast Brooklyn ie Canarise, Mill Basin, etc are the Express Buses. The X27 and X28 as of April 2024, is the only 365 day a year Brooklyn-Midtown Express Bus routes.
@@americangiant1003 I know, I meant the only local bus route. Still though, Queens and the Bronx both have local bus routes that go to Manhattan so I think it would be a shame for the B39 to go away
@@mmrw Barring a court ruling that permanently ends it, congestion pricing is about to start. And with tens of thousands of more riders going to the Williamsburg Bridge transit lines, I don’t think the “J/M/Z” under its current structure can handle the extra loads. So the B39 even if ADA was installed at Essex- Delancey Station right now, that route should still be a permanent bus route with increased frequency at least on Weekdays. Ditto for Downtown Brooklyn/Northwest Brooklyn Ie Park Slope, Caroll Gardens following the path of the old B51 should also return.
Fun fact the B42 replaced the Canarsie Pier Trolley Line As When The Canarsie Line was electrified it only got electrified to Rockaway Pkwy and the other part became a trolley line and was abandoned in 1942
i saw the thumbnail & paused the start of the of the segment to say a few things: when i 1st discovered this bus route, couple of years ago, they seem to run frequently. no long waits. that has changed dramatically. 2nd, i enjoy the ride over the Williamsburg Bridge whenever i visit Regal of Essex Crossing. 3rd, i have taken the J & M, if B39 is taking too long to arrive. & if that bus route get discounted in the the future, i will surely miss that calm, comfortable ride.
I never quite paid attention to how fast the B39 really makes the trip on a good day. Just 5 minutes one way? Looks like it should be able to run every 15 minutes with one bus/driver, and maybe at this frequency it would have higher ridership. Instead it runs every 30 minutes because of congestion, which is really bad. It only takes 20 minutes to walk the bridge. I don't think I'd enjoy having to rely on this route.
You have a number of long-distance buses converging at the Willie B Plaza, with only one bus acting as a shuttle between the WBP and Manhattan. A few miles north, you have a similar situation at the Queensboro Bridge Plaza, but there, the TA eliminated the shuttle years ago, so many years ago it was a streetcar then, once Roosevelt (then called "Welfare") Island had a bridge built to Long Island City. At QBP, the Q32, Q60 and Q101 buses continue into Manhattan.
You should do a video about the Wards Island. It begins on Lex and 125 street. It is used mostly be the residents of the shelters on the island. I was a resident at one of those shelters about 12 years ago. Nobody pays the fare and the rides could get a little crazy sometimes. I don't remember what bus line it is but I bet you know.
They could extend it and have it run further down Kenmare and run up and down Spring/Prince St, serving 3 more subway lines and act like a cross borough crosstown
The b39 is a good bus when the 3rd rail loses power it’s basically the only way getting home for a lot of people besides walking which takes a long time it’s just there as an emergency train
Ironically (coincidentally?), I'm watching this while sitting at the bus stop for the 39 (!!) Coit bus here in San Francisco. It is also a tiny route that traverses Telegraph Hill to Coit Tower. 😊
I rememeber once an incident happened on the J train that the brakes were active so I was on the m and had to evacuate the train. I go to school in the Lower east side so the best fastest way for me to go to school is taking the B39. But, the trains were back so I wasn't able to ride the B39 but the B39 is actually helpful for those in need.
I propose reintroducing the BX14 bus route via most of the BX10 route from the Norwood-205th Street station to Tibbet Avenue/231st Street, then via the BX7 to Riverdale-246th Street.
It's one of those things where you have the time and money to make a route that goes along the extension of a particular part of Brooklyn, so they opted to add it into the main line in one way or another.
I propose adding these routes for The Bronx Bus Network: BX14: Norwood-205th Street to Riverdale-246th Street via the BX10 & BX7 routes BX37: Washington Heights-166th Street to Mosholu-262nd Street via Broadway BX43: Pelham Bay Park Station to Bay Terrace via Throgs Neck Bridge BX44: Woodlawn to Riverdale Avenue/231st Street via Van Cortlandt Park East BX45: Woodlawn to Fordham Plaza via Van Cortlandt Park East & Webster Avenue BX47: Hunts Point Market to Mott Haven-136th Street BX48: Soundview Ferry Terminal to Wakefield-241st Street Station via White Plains Road BX49: Woodlawn Station to Co-Op City-Bay Plaza via 233rd Street BX50: Wakefield-241st Street Station to Pelham Bay Park Station via Baychester Avenue BX51: Dyckman Street Station (1) to Woodlawn Station (4) via Jerome Avenue BX52: Mott Haven-136th Street to Bronx Botanical Gardens-Bedford Park Boulevard via 138th Street & Southern Boulevard BX53: Mott Haven-136th Street to Pelham Parkway/White Plains Road via Concourse & Fordham Road BX54: Castle Hill Park to Pelham Bay Park Station via Zerega Avenue & Westchester Avenue BX55: 3rd Avenue-149th Street Station to Gun Hill Road/White Plains Road via 3rd Avenue & Webster Avenue BX56: Pelham Parkway Station (5) to Wakefield-241st Street Station via Laconia Avenue BX57: Pelham Parkway Station (5) to Co-Op City-Bay Plaza via Laconia Avenue BX58: Fordham Plaza to City Island-Rochelle Street via Fordham Road & Pelham Parkway BX59: Bronx Park East Station to Wakefield-241st Street Station via Neill Avenue & Baychester Avenue BX60: Einstein Hospital to Nereid Avenue Station via Williamsbridge Road, Bronxwood Avenue, & White Plains Road BX61: Soundview Park to Pelham Bay Park Station via Randall Avenue, Zerega Avenue, & Westchester Avenue BX62: City Island-Rochelle Street to White Plains Road Gun/Hill Road via Pelham Parkway & White Plains Road BX63: Allerton Avenue Station to Pelham Gardens-Stillwell Avenue via Mace Avenue BX64: Mott Haven-136th Street to White Plains Road/Gun Hill Road via Saint Ann’s Avenue, 3rd Avenue, & Webster Avenue BX65: Port Morris-132nd Street to Van Cortlandt Village via Bruckner Boulevard, Grand Concourse, & University Avenue BX66: 161st Street-Yankee Stadium Station to Riverdale Avenue/231st Street via 161st Street, Ogden Avenue, University Avenue, & 231st Street BX67: 215th Street Station to White Plains Road/Gun Hill Road via Webster Avenue, Kingsbridge Road, & Broadway BX68: 170th Street Station (4) to Riverdale-246th Street via Macombs Road, University Avenue, Kingsbridge Road, & Riverdale Avenue BX69: 3rd Avenue-149th Street Station to West Farms Square-East Tremont Avenue Station via Westchester Avenue & Southern Boulevard BX70: Saint Mary’s Park-Saint Ann’s Avenue to West Farms Square-East Tremont Avenue Station via 149th Street, Prospect Avenue, Crotona Avenue, & Tremont Avenue BX71: Mott Haven-136th Street to Hunts Point Market via 138th Street, Southern Boulevard, & Tiffany Street BX72: Melrose to Bronx Park East Station via 156th Street, Westchester Avenue, & White Plains Road
Cool, but I doubt the MTA would accept. Meanwhile, the Bronx already had a Bx55, which was shut out in 2013. Also, the Bx48 should instead replace the Bx18B. The BxM5 should also be implemented as a reinstated BxM4B.
Actually the B51 ran between City Hall/Chambers and the Jay/Fulton Street-MetroTech “A/C” “F” and “R” subway station. With congestion pricing soon arriving, the MTA needs to bring back some form of “non premium express bus” service between Northwest/Downtown Brooklyn and Lower Manhattan at least Monday to Friday. The subways unless they get a dramatic boost in service frequency are not ready for the additional riders that will no longer use their vehicles 🚗 for Brooklyn-Manhattan or beyond travel.
I think it is a good additional subject for you. It increases the number of new videos you could produce without straying from the core theme of this channel.
I think that the B39 should be discontinued, with the route being replaced by the B71, connecting Cobble Hill and Crown Heights, which should operate under the Grand Avenue Bus Depot, if the B39 ever gets discontinued in the near future.
I think the Q9 comes in 3rd place. From the 165 Street bus terminal to Rockaway Blvd in South Ozone Park just only 5 blocks away from the Van Wyck separating Jamaica and South Ozone Park.
I do think an extension in Brooklyn or somewhere in Lower Manhattan would help increase its purpose if the MTA chooses to do it. Also, I wonder how people rank the buses that serve 2 boroughs
This is the only bus route that should be "FARE FREE" for good! With only two stops between the routes, I dont see a reason (or an excuse) for fares to be collected.
I rather the B39 opposed to the J train only downside is that it takes long to arrive (like 5 J or M trains passing by 😞) I also think it should extend a little pass Allen Street.
I think when the accessibility is complete I think that the B39 should be replaced by an extended B67 absorbing the B39 as a whole. It would have the same purpose but I had plans to extend the B67 even further along 15th Ave and having the B16 run along 12th Ave to avoid the traffic on 13th and 14th Aves up to 60th St. I even have some Brooklyn bus routes that could even touch Staten Island in the Future those being B1 B16 B70 That alone would be enough for one inner Brooklyn Riders get a one seat ride for transfers to buses such as the S78, and the others to the Ferry Terminal. This can allow the B8 to run along 86th St and then the only Staten Island bus to access Brooklyn would be the S79 SBS with an extension up to 59th St Station for transfers to the N and R lines as well as the B9 and B64 Buses. I would also have more than one depot supply buses as they would need enough buses to supply the demand as buses such as the B1 can replace the S53 and the B16 can replace the S93 LTD. As for the B70 that can run Along Father C. Blvd up to the SI University Hospital in Seaview Ave. With that we have B1: Port Richmond B16: Willowbrook College of Staten Island B70: SI University Hospital Other cities have had long bus routes as that can help NYC as well, and seeing that the S78 is a long route at over 20 miles long it shouldn’t be a problem.
I also think that we should replace the Bx46 route with my proposed Bx17 limited route which will operate along Hunts Point Ctr Dr to Fordham Plaza making limited stops also I think that we should extend the Bx17 and the Bx41SBS to LGA then in the long term if demand calls for it I'd replace the Bx41SBS and the M60SBS routes with light rail local service will remain on those routes and I'd also extend the Q50 to LGA then in the long term I'd replace that route with a light rail line as for the Q44SBS I'll convert that into a BRT and extend that to JFK if demand calls for it I'd bulid a Queens Bronx Crosstown Subway
The B39 is very useful and convenient to the Williamsburg Bridge Plaza, however it should not be eliminated since if there’s no J/M service between Hewes Street and Essex, The B39 is quite convenient besides the shuttle bus. It should also be extended to Myrtle Ave-Broadway station
MTAFAN if the MTA Brooklyn Bus redesign now scheduled to start around Spring or Summer of ‘25 is approved a new “B53” will run 24/7 between Williamsburg Plaza and Broadway Junction. With limited service extended to Greenpoint Ave/46th Street “7” subway line in Sunnyside, Queens. The “B46” Williamsburg-Kings Plaza Via Utica Local would be shortened to/from Flushing Ave. And the Q24 would only run between Broadway Junction and Jamaica.
The MTA had cut alot of Bus service along the B-39 route. That's one of reasons why the route had lost ridership. It use run 24 for a day and it use to run like 12 to 15 minutes all day day until the late hours. Now it runs every 30 from 7 am to 930 pm 7 days a week. Until 2010 when the MTA decided to cut . By only have the B-39 running one Bus is a joke so what happens when the Bus breaks down then it's no Bus service. The ADA had sued the MTA for cutting the B-39 the route should've Extended to follow the B-60 to end and Union ave by Broadway G train station. Making connections to B--46 B-60 and walk connections to B-48 and the J/M trains or just Extended up Metropolitan ave and Lorimer st G L and B-24 Q-59. Under the Queens Bus Redesign the Q-59 will no long serv Williamsburg Northside any more. The outer section of Williamsburg by the Movie theater and by Kent ave sirThe B-53 isn't going be enough to handle the amount of Bus passengers. Also. The B-62 will'nt be going to Williamsburg Bridge 🌉 plaza once the Queens Bus Redesign actually has sir. The Q-59 would've rerouted to Broadway and Rondey street to Grand st and to Queens. Leaving alot Bus passengers with not to much service. Also the B-62 will rerouted like the original B-61. And the Bus passengers will have to walk up to 5 to 10 minutes from Bedford ave and Broadway to Williamsburg Bridge Plaza. There alot of Traffic 🚥 coming off of the Williamsburg Bridge. Sir.
Agreed Dribbz. Although even with Essex/Delancey getting ADA access, with congestion pricing coming the B39 should remain minimum a Monday to Friday route. Especially I don’t think the “J/M/Z” lines can handle the projected tens of thousands more riders a day from soon to be former Drivers of their vehicles on the Williamsburg Bridge.
@@americangiant1003 CBTC…. the J.M.Z will be fine with the headways…. The Z barely runs so it’s really the J & M… the Williamsburg can handle it now as it is… and with CBTC it will be fine
@@dribbz718 I hope you are correct. Especially to see if the “J & M” can handle the possibility of Tens of thousands of more riders once the tolls to Manhattan starts.
@@CLBT7437 Further proof the B39 needs to stay once congestion pricing starts. Also time for a Weekday Downtown Brooklyn/Park Slope area and Lower Manhattan “old B51” type bus route as well once the tolls to Manhattan starts.
Is the B42 and B39 really shorter Then the B74? I always thought that was the shortest bus route I’m born and raised in Coney Island but now I live in Williamsburg and the B39 seems longer the B74 only goes from stillwell Avenue to west 37th are you sure ? Anyway learn something new every day
Thank you for sharing this video. 2 weeks ago, I had mentioned basic facts about the B39 route which I lasted rode in the summer of 2020. It was also reminiscent to the B51 route that was discontinued in 2010, across the Manhattan Bridge. Here is the review of the Grand Avenue Depot review, which can show the analysis of this route I wish I can add on before I released the review. GAD Review : th-cam.com/video/ZJgTFWbp3kw/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared th-cam.com/video/ZJgTFWbp3kw/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
I read an article about the B39 that stated that many seniors and disabled folks who have trouble using the subway use the B39 to cross the bridge. It's more of a utility than a bus route, but it does serve a purpose.
This bus route not only highlights the inequalities that people with disabilities face, but also what everyone
on buses face as a result of the negative externalities of drivers in NYC.
This route taking 20 minutes when it should take 5 is a really concrete example of why we need congestion pricing so badly.
I honestly disagree. Congestion pricing won't help transit or alleviate traffic, all it will do is allow for the wealthy and those who can pay the price to drive around, while the less fortunate, especially those living in isolated areas of the city with limited transit, will be screwed over. If you want to discourage driving, you should just ban it all together, although that would require a massive transit upgrade.
@@taxesv1nce142 …which would require funding. Hence…
which will in turn send the traffic to other areas. Then that place will get congestion pricing and then the cycle continues. (Or from what other videos say anyway)
@@taxesv1nce142 If the proceeds of congestion pricing are used to fund transit in isolated areas of the city, though… Honestly, each bridge should have dedicated bus lanes and be tolled. I would also suggest replacing parking on streets with bus route with bus lanes. Let the drivers scream. (I won’t mention my belief that gas should have a 300% tax earmarked for mitigating climate change).
@@taxesv1nce142 Instead of congestion pricing, I agree that all of Manhattan south of 59th Street (not counting those driving on say the FDR Drive and West Side Highway) should have considered banning driving for non commercial drivers on most roads with very few exceptions. And truck deliveries made only between 8pm-7am and 7pm-8am weekends and holidays.
Coordiors such as Broadway, 5th Avenue and 1st Avenue could even have 2 way traffic for buses as well.
With that said, there was other ways other than following London with congestion pricing first without forcing tolls to enter the “city.”
B39 allows those with large families and others who don’t want any part of the J,M trains to transfer to other buses. I miss the B51 that used to go over the Manhattan Bridge between City Hall and Jay-Fulton Sts Downtown Brooklyn.
The 51 was killed due to 4 different lines going over the Bridge… and then the access to City Hall via Subway from downtown Brooklyn is a 1 seat ride
@@dribbz718 True. Full elevator access wasn't available for that 1 seat ride then.
As someone whom loved to ride the B51 from Dwntwn Bklyn to City Hall, I still miss this route. Even on Fridays when the Manhattan Bridge was jam-packed.
It wasn't the B51, it was the B15
@@topliner9534 B15 that goes from Woodhull Hospital to JFK via Sumner Ave-Marcus Garvey Blvd? You sure?
The reason why this exists alongside the similar b-51 bus over the Manhattan Bridge is that these bus routes replace the old street cars or what Europeans call trams that ran over the bridge
B39 should be extended to Broadway Junction.
That'll be a cool sight to see
That would probably make it an SBS?
Tbh I'd rather have it extended on the Manhattan side
Yes! It would also be cool to see it extended across Spring/Prince Sts into SoHo
How and which street?
When the Williamsburg Bridge was closed for summer 1999 due to reconstruction on the subway structure, the B39 was made free for those four months as a lifeline route connecting the severed BMT lines (a shuttle ran between Essex and Broad Street).
The Williamsburg Bridge has been fully accessible since the new walkways and bike lanes opened in 2002.
The Orion VII OGs were retired last month after 17 years in service, let’s just have a moment of silence for them.
2007-2024
Interesting this bus serves more of an ADA purpose than being a full route. And like how you're branching out into buses too. Would love a video on the B100 even though its not owned by the city and is a private line.
Not a private line anymore, all those private lines in NYC are gone.
B110 is private.
You just got another like. Also, you should do more bus videos like giving your thoughts on the Brooklyn and Queens Bus Redesigns.
It's useful if you want too do bus to bus transfers in Brooklyn and just go to the Lower East Side.
The B39 can be useful at times, lets just say something happened on the J/M/Z trains on the williamsburg bridge, they can reroute passengers to the b39 and the bus can service them to essex st.
Absolutely correct and at the same time why not extend it to City Hall the interborough rapid transit name for Chambers Street. Because some of the major Transit stations have IRT names. Queens Boulevard Roosevelt Avenue also known as 74th Street Broadway 63rd Street line Lexington Avenue 63rd Street 59th Street IRT.
Not really. If the JMZ died, I’m def not waiting half an hour for the next B39 just to get stuck in traffic on the bridge. Surly others can agree. Hell, they’ll probably get a few shuttle buses out before the next B39 can even make it back.
@@skrakaayyyyy_itzyostepThis. This happened to me one time; the subways were delayed over the bridge. JUST as the crowds started to show up to the bus stop at Williamsburg Bridge Plaza, the bus driver was pulling away. I feel like he saw us coming and decided to bolt away and not deal with us. Nah, I walked the bridge that day lol. That only takes 20 minutes.
I think the B39 is so cool as the only bus route that goes between Brooklyn and Manhattan
MMRW actually the only “local” Brooklyn-Manhattan Bus Route. The X27/28/37/38 from the Bay Ridge/Coney Island areas and also the BM 1-2-3-4-5 from Southeast Brooklyn ie Canarise, Mill Basin, etc are the Express Buses. The X27 and X28 as of April 2024, is the only 365 day a year Brooklyn-Midtown Express Bus routes.
@@americangiant1003 I know, I meant the only local bus route. Still though, Queens and the Bronx both have local bus routes that go to Manhattan so I think it would be a shame for the B39 to go away
@@mmrw Barring a court ruling that permanently ends it, congestion pricing is about to start. And with tens of thousands of more riders going to the Williamsburg Bridge transit lines, I don’t think the “J/M/Z” under its current structure can handle the extra loads.
So the B39 even if ADA was installed at Essex- Delancey Station right now, that route should still be a permanent bus route with increased frequency at least on Weekdays. Ditto for Downtown Brooklyn/Northwest Brooklyn Ie Park Slope, Caroll Gardens following the path of the old B51 should also return.
Research the Bx29 which goes to City Island in the Bronx. Back in the day, the Bx12 had extended to City Island.
Fun fact the B42 replaced the Canarsie Pier Trolley Line As When The Canarsie Line was electrified it only got electrified to Rockaway Pkwy and the other part became a trolley line and was abandoned in 1942
This vid was very cool, you should make this a series, if you do can you do the Bx20 in the Bronx
I live in riverdale and don’t understand the Bx20 majority of people get on at 231 heading north off the 1 train
@@josiahdillard7428the Bx20 is the Bronx portion of the M100.
@@rodrigomontalvo910 yeah but the Bx20 starts at 207 and only goes to 246. I live on 259 so I rarely take it but I see it often
i saw the thumbnail & paused the start of the of the segment to say a few things: when i 1st discovered this bus route, couple of years ago, they seem to run frequently. no long waits. that has changed dramatically.
2nd, i enjoy the ride over the Williamsburg Bridge whenever i visit Regal of Essex Crossing.
3rd, i have taken the J & M, if B39 is taking too long to arrive. & if that bus route get discounted in the the future, i will surely miss that calm, comfortable ride.
When this route is eventually cut, it should be merged with the B60, providing a one-seat ride between the Lower East Side and South Brooklyn.
This route should be part of the fare-free program. A route that everyone could benefit from.
I never quite paid attention to how fast the B39 really makes the trip on a good day. Just 5 minutes one way? Looks like it should be able to run every 15 minutes with one bus/driver, and maybe at this frequency it would have higher ridership.
Instead it runs every 30 minutes because of congestion, which is really bad. It only takes 20 minutes to walk the bridge. I don't think I'd enjoy having to rely on this route.
You have a number of long-distance buses converging at the Willie B Plaza, with only one bus acting as a shuttle between the WBP and Manhattan. A few miles north, you have a similar situation at the Queensboro Bridge Plaza, but there, the TA eliminated the shuttle years ago, so many years ago it was a streetcar then, once Roosevelt (then called "Welfare") Island had a bridge built to Long Island City. At QBP, the Q32, Q60 and Q101 buses continue into Manhattan.
You should do a video about the Wards Island. It begins on Lex and 125 street. It is used mostly be the residents of the shelters on the island. I was a resident at one of those shelters about 12 years ago. Nobody pays the fare and the rides could get a little crazy sometimes. I don't remember what bus line it is but I bet you know.
They could extend it and have it run further down Kenmare and run up and down Spring/Prince St, serving 3 more subway lines and act like a cross borough crosstown
The b39 is a good bus when the 3rd rail loses power it’s basically the only way getting home for a lot of people besides walking which takes a long time it’s just there as an emergency train
Ironically (coincidentally?), I'm watching this while sitting at the bus stop for the 39 (!!) Coit bus here in San Francisco.
It is also a tiny route that traverses Telegraph Hill to Coit Tower.
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I rememeber once an incident happened on the J train that the brakes were active so I was on the m and had to evacuate the train. I go to school in the Lower east side so the best fastest way for me to go to school is taking the B39. But, the trains were back so I wasn't able to ride the B39 but the B39 is actually helpful for those in need.
and to be honest, it should really be called M39 rather then B39 since its mostly in manhattan rather then brooklyn (more stops)
No
Don’t know why it’s not called that tbh
(not the B and D trains staying on Central Park West longer than 6th Avenue)
@@EndIessProductions cause they don’t need to name the B39 the M39 🤣
next thing you know people boutta ask “wait, whats the m39 bus”
yes please. i would love to see more videos like these...
i really hope it doesn't get discontinued. i don't mind the steps but i don't like lifts
I propose reintroducing the BX14 bus route via most of the BX10 route from the Norwood-205th Street station to Tibbet Avenue/231st Street, then via the BX7 to Riverdale-246th Street.
awesome video mystic! i wanted to ask if you can please do a video on how to improve the Queens Blvd Line as a whole.
I actually wouldnt want the route to go , I live on havemeyer st and go to school at pace and it’s more chill taking the bus than the train 😂
I was born and raised in williamsburg brooklyn and I have been taken the 39 bus since I was little with my mom and dad
It's one of those things where you have the time and money to make a route that goes along the extension of a particular part of Brooklyn, so they opted to add it into the main line in one way or another.
According to MTA statistics, the average riders per trip on the B39 is only 4 on weekdays, and 1 on weekends.
I propose adding these routes for The Bronx Bus Network:
BX14: Norwood-205th Street to Riverdale-246th Street via the BX10 & BX7 routes
BX37: Washington Heights-166th Street to Mosholu-262nd Street via Broadway
BX43: Pelham Bay Park Station to Bay Terrace via Throgs Neck Bridge
BX44: Woodlawn to Riverdale Avenue/231st Street via Van Cortlandt Park East
BX45: Woodlawn to Fordham Plaza via Van Cortlandt Park East & Webster Avenue
BX47: Hunts Point Market to Mott Haven-136th Street
BX48: Soundview Ferry Terminal to Wakefield-241st Street Station via White Plains Road
BX49: Woodlawn Station to Co-Op City-Bay Plaza via 233rd Street
BX50: Wakefield-241st Street Station to Pelham Bay Park Station via Baychester Avenue
BX51: Dyckman Street Station (1) to Woodlawn Station (4) via Jerome Avenue
BX52: Mott Haven-136th Street to Bronx Botanical Gardens-Bedford Park Boulevard via 138th Street & Southern Boulevard
BX53: Mott Haven-136th Street to Pelham Parkway/White Plains Road via Concourse & Fordham Road
BX54: Castle Hill Park to Pelham Bay Park Station via Zerega Avenue & Westchester Avenue
BX55: 3rd Avenue-149th Street Station to Gun Hill Road/White Plains Road via 3rd Avenue & Webster Avenue
BX56: Pelham Parkway Station (5) to Wakefield-241st Street Station via Laconia Avenue
BX57: Pelham Parkway Station (5) to Co-Op City-Bay Plaza via Laconia Avenue
BX58: Fordham Plaza to City Island-Rochelle Street via Fordham Road & Pelham Parkway
BX59: Bronx Park East Station to Wakefield-241st Street Station via Neill Avenue & Baychester Avenue
BX60: Einstein Hospital to Nereid Avenue Station via Williamsbridge Road, Bronxwood Avenue, & White Plains Road
BX61: Soundview Park to Pelham Bay Park Station via Randall Avenue, Zerega Avenue, & Westchester Avenue
BX62: City Island-Rochelle Street to White Plains Road Gun/Hill Road via Pelham Parkway & White Plains Road
BX63: Allerton Avenue Station to Pelham Gardens-Stillwell Avenue via Mace Avenue
BX64: Mott Haven-136th Street to White Plains Road/Gun Hill Road via Saint Ann’s Avenue, 3rd Avenue, & Webster Avenue
BX65: Port Morris-132nd Street to Van Cortlandt Village via Bruckner Boulevard, Grand Concourse, & University Avenue
BX66: 161st Street-Yankee Stadium Station to Riverdale Avenue/231st Street via 161st Street, Ogden Avenue, University Avenue, & 231st Street
BX67: 215th Street Station to White Plains Road/Gun Hill Road via Webster Avenue, Kingsbridge Road, & Broadway
BX68: 170th Street Station (4) to Riverdale-246th Street via Macombs Road, University Avenue, Kingsbridge Road, & Riverdale Avenue
BX69: 3rd Avenue-149th Street Station to West Farms Square-East Tremont Avenue Station via Westchester Avenue & Southern Boulevard
BX70: Saint Mary’s Park-Saint Ann’s Avenue to West Farms Square-East Tremont Avenue Station via 149th Street, Prospect Avenue, Crotona Avenue, & Tremont Avenue
BX71: Mott Haven-136th Street to Hunts Point Market via 138th Street, Southern Boulevard, & Tiffany Street
BX72: Melrose to Bronx Park East Station via 156th Street, Westchester Avenue, & White Plains Road
Cool, but I doubt the MTA would accept. Meanwhile, the Bronx already had a Bx55, which was shut out in 2013. Also, the Bx48 should instead replace the Bx18B. The BxM5 should also be implemented as a reinstated BxM4B.
This sucks
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@@bennythepenny5831 its just useless buses we don’t need at all, theres no point in the Bx55 if the Bx15 is the exact same
They should ALSO bring back the B51 that ran between Chambers and Cadman plaza.
Actually the B51 ran between City Hall/Chambers and the Jay/Fulton Street-MetroTech “A/C” “F” and “R” subway station.
With congestion pricing soon arriving, the MTA needs to bring back some form of “non premium express bus” service between Northwest/Downtown Brooklyn and Lower Manhattan at least Monday to Friday. The subways unless they get a dramatic boost in service frequency are not ready for the additional riders that will no longer use their vehicles 🚗 for Brooklyn-Manhattan or beyond travel.
No
The only problem with the B39 bus is that it gets backed up in the bottleneck of the bridge entering Manhattan.
I think it is a good additional subject for you. It increases the number of new videos you could produce without straying from the core theme of this channel.
Dalancey St/Essex St station is actually in pre-planning to be upgraded to be accessible
I think that the B39 should be discontinued, with the route being replaced by the B71, connecting Cobble Hill and Crown Heights, which should operate under the Grand Avenue Bus Depot, if the B39 ever gets discontinued in the near future.
I think the Q9 comes in 3rd place. From the 165 Street bus terminal to Rockaway Blvd in South Ozone Park just only 5 blocks away from the Van Wyck separating Jamaica and South Ozone Park.
It doesn’t come in third place of the shortest
What even is the B39 I been to that section of Brooklyn many times and that thing is no where in sight
Northern Brooklyn Bus service is poor in general
b42 replaced an old trolly line. OSR to broadway junction from canarise pier is wild
Which borough has the most bus routes? Which bus route in each borough is the fastest/ longest or most favorite that would be a good video
I do think an extension in Brooklyn or somewhere in Lower Manhattan would help increase its purpose if the MTA chooses to do it. Also, I wonder how people rank the buses that serve 2 boroughs
This is the only bus route that should be "FARE FREE" for good! With only two stops between the routes, I dont see a reason (or an excuse) for fares to be collected.
Subways are too dangerous now days, keep the B39 and put back the B15 or B51 over the Manhattan Bridge!
Put in the bus lane on the Williamsburg Bridge for the B39 bus.
What abt the B51 bus? I wonder why they discontinued the B51 but returned the B39
I rather the B39 opposed to the J train only downside is that it takes long to arrive (like 5 J or M trains passing by 😞) I also think it should extend a little pass Allen Street.
I want the B39 to Get Extended to Kings Plaza
I think when the accessibility is complete I think that the B39 should be replaced by an extended B67 absorbing the B39 as a whole. It would have the same purpose but I had plans to extend the B67 even further along 15th Ave and having the B16 run along 12th Ave to avoid the traffic on 13th and 14th Aves up to 60th St.
I even have some Brooklyn bus routes that could even touch Staten Island in the Future those being
B1
B16
B70
That alone would be enough for one inner Brooklyn Riders get a one seat ride for transfers to buses such as the S78, and the others to the Ferry Terminal. This can allow the B8 to run along 86th St and then the only Staten Island bus to access Brooklyn would be the S79 SBS with an extension up to 59th St Station for transfers to the N and R lines as well as the B9 and B64 Buses.
I would also have more than one depot supply buses as they would need enough buses to supply the demand as buses such as the B1 can replace the S53 and the B16 can replace the S93 LTD. As for the B70 that can run Along Father C. Blvd up to the SI University Hospital in Seaview Ave.
With that we have
B1: Port Richmond
B16: Willowbrook College of Staten Island
B70: SI University Hospital
Other cities have had long bus routes as that can help NYC as well, and seeing that the S78 is a long route at over 20 miles long it shouldn’t be a problem.
I also think that we should replace the Bx46 route with my proposed Bx17 limited route which will operate along Hunts Point Ctr Dr to Fordham Plaza making limited stops also I think that we should extend the Bx17 and the Bx41SBS to LGA then in the long term if demand calls for it I'd replace the Bx41SBS and the M60SBS routes with light rail local service will remain on those routes and I'd also extend the Q50 to LGA then in the long term I'd replace that route with a light rail line as for the Q44SBS I'll convert that into a BRT and extend that to JFK if demand calls for it I'd bulid a Queens Bronx Crosstown Subway
These ideas make 0 sense
The B39 is very useful and convenient to the Williamsburg Bridge Plaza, however it should not be eliminated since if there’s no J/M service between Hewes Street and Essex, The B39 is quite convenient besides the shuttle bus. It should also be extended to Myrtle Ave-Broadway station
MTAFAN if the MTA Brooklyn Bus redesign now scheduled to start around Spring or Summer of ‘25 is approved a new “B53” will run 24/7 between Williamsburg Plaza and Broadway Junction. With limited service extended to Greenpoint Ave/46th Street “7” subway line in Sunnyside, Queens.
The “B46” Williamsburg-Kings Plaza Via Utica Local would be shortened to/from Flushing Ave. And the Q24 would only run between Broadway Junction and Jamaica.
Never really cared for this bus, and i totally forgot that it was closed down before
The B39 was such a big deal in 2010. For those in wheelchairs, what were they supposed to do? Roll down the stairs?
I never even taken that bus bossman that's the bus to Willamsburg and all that stuff bsosman?
The MTA had cut alot of Bus service along the B-39 route. That's one of reasons why the route had lost ridership. It use run 24 for a day and it use to run like 12 to 15 minutes all day day until the late hours. Now it runs every 30 from 7 am to 930 pm 7 days a week. Until 2010 when the MTA decided to cut . By only have the B-39 running one Bus is a joke so what happens when the Bus breaks down then it's no Bus service. The ADA had sued the MTA for cutting the B-39 the route should've Extended to follow the B-60 to end and Union ave by Broadway G train station. Making connections to B--46 B-60 and walk connections to B-48 and the J/M trains or just Extended up Metropolitan ave and Lorimer st G L and B-24 Q-59. Under the Queens Bus Redesign the Q-59 will no long serv Williamsburg Northside any more. The outer section of Williamsburg by the Movie theater and by Kent ave sirThe B-53 isn't going be enough to handle the amount of Bus passengers. Also. The B-62 will'nt be going to Williamsburg Bridge 🌉 plaza once the Queens Bus Redesign actually has sir. The Q-59 would've rerouted to Broadway and Rondey street to Grand st and to Queens. Leaving alot Bus passengers with not to much service. Also the B-62 will rerouted like the original B-61. And the Bus passengers will have to walk up to 5 to 10 minutes from Bedford ave and Broadway to Williamsburg Bridge Plaza. There alot of Traffic 🚥 coming off of the Williamsburg Bridge. Sir.
Once Essex & Delancey gets ADA Compliance… the B39 is FINISHED‼️ it’s really for those who need the access
Agreed Dribbz. Although even with Essex/Delancey getting ADA access, with congestion pricing coming the B39 should remain minimum a Monday to Friday route. Especially I don’t think the “J/M/Z” lines can handle the projected tens of thousands more riders a day from soon to be former Drivers of their vehicles on the Williamsburg Bridge.
@@americangiant1003 CBTC…. the J.M.Z will be fine with the headways…. The Z barely runs so it’s really the J & M… the Williamsburg can handle it now as it is… and with CBTC it will be fine
@@dribbz718 I hope you are correct. Especially to see if the “J & M” can handle the possibility of Tens of thousands of more riders once the tolls to Manhattan starts.
@dribbz718 There are no plans to give the J and M line CBTC, let alone before congestion pricing starts.
@@CLBT7437 Further proof the B39 needs to stay once congestion pricing starts. Also time for a Weekday Downtown Brooklyn/Park Slope area and Lower Manhattan “old B51” type bus route as well once the tolls to Manhattan starts.
I rarely take the city bus 0:34
Extended out more in Brooklyn
The B39 was to replace the Manhattan portion of the B44 that replaced the old trolleys.
What about the Bx46?
Funny how Urban Caffeine did a video on this bus as well
You should do a video on the b84
Except the elevators are at the wrong end of Marcy Avenue! The bus terminal as at the west end, while the elevators are at the east end.
Is the B42 and B39 really shorter Then the B74? I always thought that was the shortest bus route I’m born and raised in Coney Island but now I live in Williamsburg and the B39 seems longer the B74 only goes from stillwell Avenue to west 37th are you sure ? Anyway learn something new every day
I think the Bx 46 is the shortest
Hp market to Westchester ave
Thank you for sharing this video. 2 weeks ago, I had mentioned basic facts about the B39 route which I lasted rode in the summer of 2020. It was also reminiscent to the B51 route that was discontinued in 2010, across the Manhattan Bridge. Here is the review of the Grand Avenue Depot review, which can show the analysis of this route I wish I can add on before I released the review. GAD Review : th-cam.com/video/ZJgTFWbp3kw/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared th-cam.com/video/ZJgTFWbp3kw/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Damn does the B51 still exist too?
No.
You should make more bus videos!
Least used bus routes in the MTA
tbh the B39 is useless since you can just the the J or the M to delancy and yeah that would be a whole B39 route
No way bro rode the B39
Why the M train has 4 cars I thought it would be like 9 cars 🤔
I just found the ride cool.
Mystiic 😃
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Extend the L train to Canarsie pier
No. That won't work.
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And omg 🫢 i’ve always beens wondering this 😳