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- Today we are going to dive into cooling your computer with a Peltier plate. This was my 1st time trying this. These plates have been used in several cell phone charging tutorials however they can also be used to cool a CPU or GPU if done correctly.
Side notes: I got better results after securing the heat sink with screws. Mainly this is due to better contact, just be careful how tight you make it as you can crack the Peltier plate.
Also as stated in the video I ran out of electrical tape so I used scotch tape instead, please use electrical tape if doing this on your main machine. Since this was just a test no big deal. Thermal grease/paste is fine to spread with your finger, just wash your hands before and after! The amount of grease and skin cells from your finger is so minimal that the dust and moisture in your room probably have more of a negative effect.
The actual debate of whether it is okay is mainly due to non-plated CPU's back in the day where the chip and breadboard were exposed. If it is an older CPU that looks like that do not use your finger.
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You can use a AA or 9v battery to determine direction without worrying about burning it up. I have one connected to a five volt usb for playing around with, and it draws about one ampere.
good info for myself and others thanks.
So, it works with less volts, does it cool/heat less too?
*+Caludio Salerno* Yes, the effect of cooling is proportional to how much voltage/current you supply to it
@@pickachublast8 So you could technically run it off of a powerbank?
The Keeper You can if your power bank is rated to handle that amount of current. Otherwise, it could fry your power bank or trip the safety protection
every pc builder watching this video screamed when thermal paste was applied
Thats just not right
Lol, funny cause it's true.
Exactly
Ya, even I cringe a bit when I look back at it now.
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3:45 What the hell was that lol you are not rimming an anus or icing a cake....
this was a decent test and very informative. I always knew that peltier blocks wouldn't work, because if they did every computer would have them, but you gave real world example so great job!
"I always knew that peltier blocks wouldn't work, because if they did every computer would have them"
Incorrect. Even if they worked: They still would not have them. They risk increasing humidity (and condensation) within the case and their efficiency (in terms of power usage) is ridiculous. Your overall energy usage would increase dramatically. It's so much simpler just to use a larger heatsink and larger fans.
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Applying cold will never help instead we have taken heat and throw it out
A) way too much paste
B) no need to spread around, you may actually introduce air pocket
C) you didn’t even tighten down on the fan to squeeze paste from plates.
D) do your comparison with a baseline cooler, not with yanking your setup off with leftover thermal paste.
E) you did zero stress tests to actually test the ability of the cooler to evacuate the heat produced.
Plus, the heatsink is like the stock Intel cooler which sucks really bad.
You guys make a video and we can judge you
@@mchomelessful Great idea; your delivery was whiny as fuck though.
I appreciate that , LOL.
It was just me messing around, hence using test in the title. Never said tutorial, never said this is how you do it.
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I agree with blankspace. As much as I didn't like him screw down the thing and do benchmarks and stuff, there's no need to be rude. The guy actually still helped us get an idea of the setup. I would request him to make another video though, this time done properly.
Having worked with TEDs extensively on other projects (primarily modulating solid state lasers), I too was curious about the potential for using the TEDs to cool a CPU. Thanks for trying it!
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I know of the Peltier plates.. There use in all kinds of DYI ideas.. Have seen it used in a Gaming Rig.. I have thought of doing it with my old PC.. This is the easy way to do it.. Thank you again.. You sire have a new subscriber..
I know it has been a year, but just browsed past your comment. So thanks for the Sub.
@@TheThorns i hope , he saw ur reply haha, im also new
I have seen your comment. Plus I'm still a subscriber..
More thermal paste = Less heat transfer
it's the basic principle. Aluminium transfers heat about 100 times better. More thermal paste = bigger barrier for heat to pass through = less heat transfer.
Given that all air pockets are filled by a tiny amount of thermal paste, more will only worsen performance.
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1) he didn't say so.
2) once the pockets are filled, all extra paste is useless.
poor english for poor french
More thermal paste does not equal less heat transfer. Do some research. It's been tested by tons of people and all show the same results of it doesn't make it better nor worse.
This is because mounting pressure will usually squeeze out the excess thermal paste. Thermal paste IS less thermally conductive than the surfaces on either side, but FAR more thermally conductive than air.
So if, at a microscopic level, your surface looked like this
/\____--------/\---_____-----____/\--------_____/\
You'd get the best performance by filling the valleys with thermal paste, and getting none on the highest points. Now, since both sides of the interface are uneven, you effective high points depend on both side's surfaces, and thermal paste is a decent conductor. And again, mounting pressure usually squeezes out the excess. But there is no gain once the surface is coated with a VERY thin layer, since that is more than enough to fill all the microscopic valleys.
Excess that ISN'T squeezed out WILL lower heat transfer slightly, IF (and only if) there isn't another bottle neck in the heat dissipation system.
For example (completely made up numbers here, and this over-simplifies heat transfer a bit, but the basic idea holds) Lets say your aluminum heat spreader can transfer 300W of heat per second. Your thermal paste can only manage 200W/s, and your air cooler's copper heat pipes can pull 320W/s, and the radiator can move 180W/s due to a low power fan.
The whole system is only able to dissipate the 180W/s then, and the 200W from the poor thermal paste layer will never make a difference.
Again, over simplification. Real heat transfer rates very depending on hot the hot side is vs how cold the cold side is, so an improvement on a better part can move more heat down the chain to the worse part, increasing the temperature delta and therefore improving the bad part a bit. Putting a thinner layer of thermal paste into the example above might mean that the aluminum makes 10-20% direct contact with the copper heat pipes, lessening the resistance from the thermal paste, and moving that layer to 220-230W/s. The extra heat might then change temperature delta in the radiator, which could increase its efficiency slightly (190W/s maybe? Since all these numbers are 100% made up, the resulting number is meaningless of course)
I was testing this too and some points to notice. The peltiers cold side will make the thermal paste a solid material hindering the cooling, try without it and then buy something that can go lower than -30C. . Second thing is that you need to mount the cooler to have a pressure. It does not work without it. If you want to completely remove the condensation just but the motherboard in mineral oil.
I have had some luck with straight mineral oil cooling in the past. I like the concept of combining the 2 however I feel that the overall temp would be null with a full submersion. I assume you mean just fill the mineral oil up to the peltier plate and let the heatsink be above the mineral oil. At any rate thanks for sharing. Please sub if you have not already 😋
Try a water cooler with the peltier cooling the water. And only use a rice grain size of thermal paste.
I actually did it xDD we have to wait for almost 20-30 mins till the water drops till almost 5° and that can be used as Radiator
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@@ZafriusRasnake The optimal thermal contact points are metal to metal, the reason for thermal paste is to fill the microscopic voids (imperfections) on the contact surfaces. More paste lowers thermal conduction, it doesn't improve it.
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Did this like 7 years ago. cool to see somone else with the same idea.
actually a lot of people have tried this out with various configurations.
Good video... yes a little less thermal paste... Which Cooler did you use ? I get more DELTHA temp drop with a push pull configuration with 2 high speed fans.
Thanks for share
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The more efficient way is too use waterblocks combined with this Peltier, a DIY watercooling system with Peltier away from electrical components should cool the water more then the official way.
agreed, this was my findings also latter down the road.
Many mistakes were made in this experiment. However it should be noted I was just messing around. Even I cringe a little when I look back on this video. Sorry for the delay, as I'm sure you know I can't reply to everyone. Hope you enjoyed the video. Have a Happy Halloween 🎃 & please sub if you can.🙂
After 7 years my new laptop with r9 7845hx have +90°c somebody sent this video Acer engineers.
Hope you found it interesting!
The best way to use a peltier air cooler is cool down the air inside with an array of them on the inside of the removable sidewall cut to match them and heat sinks on either side of them. Much like the ones you see with "air coolers" made from them. The air flow is heavy and the super cold aluminum sink on the inside gets pretty cold to combat room temperatures.
Vydonis must used with dehumidifier first.. Peltiers a known condensers too, not good, but still known.
It was just a 1st time mess around test. Trust me there are numerous things I would do differently. For starters used water cooling block and put the Peltier on the radiator portion. ☃️ Happy Holidays. Sorry for the delay in response, as I'm sure you know I can't reply to everyone. Hope you enjoyed the video. Please sub if you haven't already & have a safe new year. 🙂
A reason this might be a bad example is if your peltier junction is bigger than the CPU retensor for this 775 chip, the retensor will prevent the peltier from making a flush connection with the CPU die, since you can't just rely on a thick layer of heat transfer compound to do the trick. In which case, a smaller peltier that fits inside of the motherboard's CPU retensor for socket 775 would be better. A stock Intel heat sink + fan would need a little modification to fit a peltier inbetween. The junction would also need to be started before booting up the system.
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As far as i know... i've heard of the freezer unit for cpu cooling back in the 90s when AMD started out with heat issues. Never did i know about this peltier unit back then. I guess, now everything goes online. Many get's to know the term more specifically. I think the freezer for cpu cooling is none other than a peltier unit. Although it did not lasted long because of condensation issues. The sales went dead because of condensation that'll eventually cause the board to died on water condensation. But i believed that the peltier unit is a promising cheap solution and most importantly, it's pretty small and consume less space. It could perhaps also address cctv cameras heat issues . What it needs would be a temp monitoring devices to kick in the circuit to bring down the temperature of a target device and shut off when the device is not overheating.
Thanks for sharing. There are numerous things I would do differently if attempting this today. For starters used water cooling block and put the Peltier on the radiator portion. ☃️ Happy Holidays. Sorry for the delay in response, as I'm sure you know I can't reply to everyone. Hope you enjoyed the video. Please sub if you haven't already & have a safe new year. 🙂
This is especually useful for CPUs with small die size where thermal gradient is important.
What about watercooling the hot side while connecting the cool side to a custom loop for chilled water? (Assuming an array of TECs)
I have actually seen people water cool a peltier plate, it works but, unclear how much improvement takes place as I have not seen numbers 😋
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if you use better thermal paste and screw the cooler down the temperatures go much lower ive seen a 60 watt peltier lower 30 degrees on the cpu
thanks for sharing.
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Vaseline on a potato
why does that make me hungry?
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Excellent
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@@TheThorns ok
Great job sir.....innovation technology
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I would refrain from the Vaseline... since it collects dust and mineral deposits could cause more of a problem than a little condensation. The cooling fan should also create enough air movement to reduce condensation significantly. Also there was enough thermal paste used to lubricate a whale. Displacement after compression means you really need about half a pea size dollop to do the trick. Results are impressive though. Wonder what kind of stress he put it under? An overclock test would have given a nice benchmark too.
Thanks for sharing. There are numerous things I would do differently if attempting this today. For starters used water cooling block and put the Peltier on the radiator portion. ☃️ Happy Holidays. Sorry for the delay in response, as I'm sure you know I can't reply to everyone. Hope you enjoyed the video. Please sub if you haven't already & have a safe new year. 🙂
What were the specs of your peltier module? I've seen some as high as 100watts (rated at a max of 15v and 8amps) but curious to know what you used! Thanks
will have to take a look.
Sounds good, thanks! I'm curious to experiment with different setups, especially for cooling things like graphics cards and laptops!
Just wondering, how much decrese in temps you see? Can it be used on GPU?
Is there better TEC module that cools better? Thanks
today I recommend water cooling and using peltier plates on the radiator portion. It most certainly can be used on a graphics card. Temps vary.
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ive been shaking my head and saying "no no no, omg no" all the time
Why?
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Is vaseline non conductive?
Also, great job. I'd pick a different filler music next time tho... Perhaps you could try testing it under load as well? I'd hazard that the gains will be more when it's running at 100%
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Petroleum jelly is not conductive however many Vaseline products do add water but it is not enough to do damage. I have to assume it is distilled. It works as a protective layer against condensation.
you never put vasaline on a motherboard for fuck sake .. its petroleum based and will degrade your contacts and start eating your sealant on your board eventually exposing your laser cut circuitry lines and degrading your electrical transfer and ETM .. jesus this guy .. no offense man but i hope some kid doesn't see this and try it..
Hal Jordan this isn't a long term product, just a proof of concept, chill bro
Another great overclock using Vaseline
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thank you! I always find it funny when people say no offense before they intentionally offend you. The only time no offense is not offensive is when it is constructive criticism.
how do you solve the problem of water, coming from the condensate, which will leak onto the motherboard, only with grease ???
If you are really serious about using the peltier method than you are going to want to use liquid cooling and put the peltier plates on a radiator. That way you can keep any condensation away form the board. hope you enjoyed the video
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You can create a connection for the Peltier Cooler on that same Computer Power Supply, no need for another one
I had considered that but wouldn't recommend it unless power supply is 500W and over.
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Its The Verge all over again
thanks for sharing.
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That huge amount of thermal paste thou
m'eh it was a general 1st test.
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So the TEC amperes that are used up - where does that energy mainly go? The hot side? So in essence it will add for example 50w to the cooling?
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If you use the peltier plate to cool the coolant in a w/c loop instead, you'll get much better results.
agreed, ya this was just a test but yes cooling the radiator or the liquid somewhere is the most ideal.
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so... since the temps arent all that low, probably still above room temp, it doesn't seem necesary to protect the system against condensation, what was it, like 8°C lower? maybe with a better thermal paste and properly secured a 10°C idle might be achieved wich sounds pretty good IMO, heck even the 8°C is pretty good, a stress test woul've been apreciated though...
It was just a 1st time mess around test. Trust me there are numerous things I would do differently. For starters used water cooling block and put the Peltier on the radiator portion. ☃️ Happy Holidays. Sorry for the delay in response, as I'm sure you know I can't reply to everyone. Hope you enjoyed the video. Please sub if you haven't already & have a safe new year. 🙂
maybe integrating a peltierplate to the bottom of the board right under the cpu socket, that would work well and not obstruct any cpu cooler.
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A little dab in the center of the heatsink, is all ya need!
Geek Of Truth2 slightly different in this application as his heatsink is not being pressed down hard enough to spread a standard dot like you would on a heat sink that could fasten down
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There's a good reason that no one has brought to market a system based on a Peltier cooler, adding 75 Watts to a system that runs 100 W at idle doesn't make sense. The Peltier cell is to inefficient to be of any value.
thanks for sharing.
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thank you
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I agree on so much comment, at first, what is the purpose of a heat sink? Right, to take the heat away from the cpu. What you do is force a cold side on the hot side, it is inefficiënt and overdone on the paste.... Yes, thermal paste is bad for your health and should not be so spread out with your fingers. The pressure applied to the cooling unit (heat sink etc.) should sufficiently spread out the paste, it is not the amount but the contact it must make like a very thin layer between CPU and cooling agent. So all in all i am not sure this is a good idea, and as some here say, there was no stress test. Oh and the vaseline, smart thinking, but if the cold/heat coëfficiënt is in balance, then moist out of the air could form droplets on the element, but it is H2O without anything contaminated, so non conductive. Place the motherboard not horizontal but vertical, the moist drips down, that path could use vaseline.....
Further, it is a boldly video....
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Better use tower heatsinkfan and assembly with processor normally, then contact the peliter on aluminum which contacted to processor. Dont forget to limit the voltage for peltier. It will more powerfull and durable.
Nice tip! thanks for sharing.
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Hi friend, is it possible to put the peltier power supply together with the CPU cooler fan for temperature control together with cooler + peltier together?
(Same power cable off PSU to power Peltier & Fan) If I am understanding you correctly yes you can, should be possible. Now if you are implying using the heat of the CPU to generate power via the Peltier and run the fan off that power than I would say no probably not.
would have been nice to see some stress test
Next time, this was just a simple test.
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It is important to note the reason of why this "worked" ....
* You didn´t explain Pelteir plates basics - Cold side depends on how much heat can be removed from hot side. there is a limit on how much heat you can remove from hot side. If cold side is receiving to much heat from cpu, then it will fail. This worked because it was on iddle and temp removed from hot side was enough to keep it at 20C but not lower ... I can bet this will totally fail under a workload.
:/
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Interesting. Please recommend an enclosed water cooling unit?
possibly could rig it to the side of an all in one unit like the corsair H series. Otherwise you would need to use water cooling kits. To be honest I have had more luck with mineral oil cooling and using bubblers.
How do bubbles provide cooling? & mineral oil I have no clue
apply less thermal paste. the paste fills the tiny gaps and crevices in the steel but apply too much paste and it will restrict the heat transfer
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You would get a lot better results if you de-lid and use a cooper slug between the processor and the TEC.
Good point, that would help with the transfer, not sure by how much but still.
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to avoid condensation u can use another some kind of concave square plate betwen the peltier and the cpu or maybe try a carbon plate betwen but iot could be dificult to find or maybe you have to close all your computer sealed to avoid air to go inside so no humidity can go inside
Thank you for sharing. In my ventures I have found the best way to incorporate a Peltier plate is to water cool the CPU and then attach a Peltier to the radiator of the cooling unit. Cooling the liquid is easier to control and don't have to worry about condensation as much.
Hello, can you explain how this would work? Currently testing a peltier module for our CPU and I’m worried about shorting the cpu due to condensation
liquid metal instead of thermal paste should give the same result in a much easier mod
thanks for sharing.
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can you cool down the heat side of the peltier with a watercooling system?or does it require a heatsink and fan?
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What is your opinion of using this peltier for daily computer user. Your experienced advice will help me lot.
If done correctly it could be very beneficial. However I would never recommend doing this with new hardware. I would personally only do this to hardware I wanted to get a little more juice from until it dies.
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wait until that peltier cool side creates water droplet..
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Does putting a lot of thermal paste be the reason for both sides to be hot? My thermoelectric cooler is heating on both sides, i think its because of too much thermal paste
I wasn't sure when I made this video as there was a small gap so I put more on. the key is thin layer. I thought both sides might help but it really doesn't. You just need thin layer of thermal grease on hot side to heatsink. Please sub if you can 🙂
It needs to be a to high end peltier to really help, and these are expensive and spend alot of energy so better of spending with a better heatsink and cooler or watercooler. Also with peltiers theres aways the risk of water condensing and even with vaseline it may cause issues.
Unfortunatly for pcs it isnt much usefull...
after much testing I found that the best configuration was to hook it up externally to a water cool system.
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noob question what program are you using to get the temps ?
It is called HW monitor www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
Like most people say try cooling the water inside your watercooling with the peltier
Agreed. I have found this to be the best method as well
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What about the moisture created below the peltier?
And that my friend is why this is not common practice.
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how many watts does it actually draw? I have seen youtubers creating usb powered coolers and even using 12v 5a power adapters... can you speak to that? thinking of adding one to a small water block in my liquid cooled rig to compare with radiators?
At this stage unknown or can't recall. It was just a 1st time mess around test. Trust me there are numerous things I would do differently. For starters used water cooling block and put the Peltier on the radiator portion. ☃️ Happy Holidays. Sorry for the delay in response, as I'm sure you know I can't reply to everyone. Hope you enjoyed the video. Please sub if you haven't already & have a safe new year. 🙂
Can you run Heaven Valley benchmark while doing this? Just want to see the temps.
I thought that was primarily a GPU stress test?
It is, but the cpu heats up too. Or try Prime95?
now that is a CPU benchmark program!
Compare that to a hyper evo 212 or stock cooler haha.
No load on the CPU. Peltier alone cannot cool down a processor thanks to low efficiency.
Also you did not screw in the heatsink. Mounting pressure makes a whole lot of difference
GEGEDUBLEWPEE naaahh... The peltier wasn't 'alone'. As you can see, it was 'assisted' by the heat sink.
The main problem with peltiers as cpu coolers wasn't because it's inefficient, rather it creates condensation which is not good with electronics.
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But yeah, no load test was done, so the effectiveness can't really be determined.
condensation? you need temps lower than the air to form condensation!
Ole Simen Berget Yes.. Peltiers can reach temps lower than air's given a good heat sink.
all the heat from the cpu builds up in the middle of it. You can bet the sides and corner especially was more than a few degrees colder than the middle, which is still not where the temperature is taken. (but as close as it gets)
in short, the sides will get really cold. which is why applying vaseline around there to shield the cold surfaces from the air is a good idea. (and the reason he had a jar of it)
However, using peltiers is horribly inefficient. Better to just use water cooling and keep adding radiators to the loop until you are happy with the temps.
( or if its cold outside, chuck the radiator through the window (which works really well until summer btw ) )
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holy thermal paste!!!!
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that thermal paste looks like a toothpaste in the lights lol
Hope you enjoyed the video, it is just a standard thermal compound low grade.
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I'm interested in using this method to cool an electric speed controller for RC car.
Do you think it will be good enough to stop the esc overheating and is it nessaserry to have such a huge heatsink on the sucker? On rc cars space is an issue as you can imagine.
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heat sink would be necessary, however you may be able to get the wieght and size down if you use a small copper heatsink. Maybe copper RAM heatsinks. Only issue I would worry about is power draw.
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@@TheThorns there's always a heatsink on these ESC's bro, there's normally a fan attached but they break with bumps ans small stones.
What sort of power draw would I bee looking at roughly bro?
there is no hot side or cold side it depends on the polarity if you switch the polarity the number side gets hot while the reverse side gets cold it all depends on how you connect it
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WAY too much thermal grease. It’s supposed to fill in the gaps between the metal parts. You don’t want a thick layer.
Best way is to put a pea-sized piece in the center and let the clamp of the heat sink cause it to spread. Maybe wiggle it a little before screwing down.
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You should have used the peltier with last number 15 instead of 06 as it is more efficient and provides more cooling and takes more power
Nice tip, thanks for sharing!
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quick question how much approximately power it uses ( u said a lot but need some approximation( eg if it uses 200 w ,you can use bigger power unit like 700-1000w and you just need one unit?
Usually less than 100w, mostly 50-60w
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What is the music you used its awesome!
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That was an excessive amount of thermal paste o_o All you did was create an insulating effect with that amount of paste. Next time use something like a tiny thin line or rice grain sized dab.
Rice grain seems excessively small...probably won't coat more than a third of the transfer plate at that point. 3 rice grains, maybe :P
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if it fails it will become a heat stopping shield not good !!
When I was playing with Peltier and Celeron 300A I easly reached below 0 temps at full load.
Doesn't it decreses performance for being too much cold???
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hey.... Can i use a 12V and 2amps power supply with peltier? Will i get full cooling effect or i should use other source. please tell me the required voltage and amps for peltier.
depends on the peltier plate you are using. Might want to check how many amps it can take. obviously the closer you are to its specifications the closer you will be to it's full potential
Why dont you put the peltier to the cpu's heatsink instead putting it directly to cpu?
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does a peltier build up moisture inside the processor?
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the thermocouple doesn't need to be in that configuration.
You could have the hot side in a radiator outside your case, and the cold side on your CPU.
Then you could hook the power input to the cooler into the PWM pins of the CPU fan, so as the CPU heated up it crank up the cooling. This would prevent it from reaching temperatures that will form condensation, since it will only pump enough heat to keep the CPU at a safe temperature (although you'd have to make your own power controller to turn the PWM signal into something that controls the voltage).
Your assessment of that cooler is correct, though... just saying that in theory the only sacrifice you have to make is higher power consumption; you can still avoid condensation while also getting good temps, pure silent operation, and convenient form factor.
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Can i use a Peltier cell to cool another peltier cell?
what on earth. WHY!!! 😨
err, no, cos you gotta cool THAT peltier plate too...
And that peltier u used to cool peltier will be used to cool another peltier
you can buy them in cascades to reach lower temps. so.... yes.
yes its called cascading look it up
If you read about how peltiers really work, you will find that how this test is done is really wrong, if you put load on cpu it would overheat. That peltier used in test is only 6A one, seen from number and its way too weak to cool loaded cpu.
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Where u got that heatsink and fan?
it was stock with the unit.
Dude you need to run some overclocking test to really check the ability of this thing.
Although I agree, it was just a test and I didn't want to mess with any of my boards that have the ability to overclock. AKA didn't have any spares I don't care about.
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How does it work with the peltier in place and off?
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What a messy job with the thermal paste...
ya I know I know, been hearing that song and dance on this vid for over 2 years now LOL
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what about peltier water ? when you shutdown your pc the ice on peltier well melt down so what i can do to avoid water dripping on cpu
that is why I recommend hooking it up externally with a water cooled system. since the power cuts off when the computer turns off no ice forms but condensation does.
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I think you most use it on a radiator instead of using it on the cpu
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You connect the peltier cell in the pc power Supply?
Alfonso Chavez Just the molex Red and Black wires. Red is 5V, Black is Ground. I wouldn't recommend connecting to Yellow because that is 12V
The Mastr a lot of 100 watt peltier coolers use 12 v though so it will depend on the peltier
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What about water condensation ??? Definitelly will short circuit the board/cpu xD
Probably not like this...it's not going sub-ambient~
@@auturgicflosculator2183 Can you test about moisture problem. it is possible to damage the board and cpu
@@nize8573 If temps stay above ambient, condensation won't form. Below ambient there might be some issues, particularly if any parts hit 4ºC or lower.
it technically would be distilled water, so chances off issues are low. thanks for sharing.
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after 2 years, did you find a way to use it and fixing the condensation problem?
So I only did this one more time after. Used arctic silver 5 which drastically helped with the heat transfer. Condensation was still a problem, and it would probably be more hassle than it is worth. If it is in a case and perhaps you have a small dehumidifier rigged up to the case and something to absorb access water it might be stable with no water going down the board. The only viable option I can see would be to a CPU water cooling system and use the peltier on the radiator to cool down the liquid being used.
You add insulation to the motherboard (also pack non-conducting paste under the socket unless you want your pins to rust). His cooler never got cold enough to worry about, a more powerful TEC is when it might form condensation.
This is so low, its not worth wasting power or time over. I run my components way below freezing (-58c at idle) and even under extreme load (with voltage that would almost instantly damage a chip) do I get above freezing on the core after a lot of stress testing. No TEC exists that I know of could do this (even if it was multiple KW in power with water cooling), I use phase change cooling (refrigerator cycle). Much more efficient, much colder, and can handle even the 32 core TR2 with just noderate sized compressor. Not cheap, but still no more than extreme components cost (and you can use it for mumtiple components).
TEC is fine for playing around with super low power chips (like raspberry pi), but due to thermal (heat transfer limits of peltier technology) it can't handle the high power chips (unless you chill water with it, but honestly a hacked up window AC unit is better).
@@jakegarrett8109 so with an 06 TEC, you won’t have any condensation problems?
@@HarbringerSalami as long as it's not colder than ambient it won't condense. Personally I'd just recommend using a refrigeration setup, not only does it have much greater cooling capacity and colder temps, but it uses much less electricity. TECs are cheap and ok for messing around with low power applications (like a raspberry pi), but severely limited once you use anything that puts out much heat just do to physics.
all those comments 'you did that, that, that wrong'.. that is not the point i think.
it like the way you get somewhere: try carefully something on old spareparts out and see what happens...
That is the way i use to work a lot... it begins silly with some low level einstein, but the end product....
How much watt is your peltier? and yes maybe in watercooling it is a great idea, or with a biiiiiiiiig ass heatsink (or them together) in a zero noise matter... take a big atx tower, and fil the gaps... have some fun...
or make this happen with a double peltier effect (halveway out on a heatsink a peltier again).. let the mind work...
it sounds now silly but hey... after a few years a silent overclock machine....
and if there are some readers who think 'omg that guy is nuts' well. i am.. that is how i got a LOT of things in and around my house workin great.
I appreciate this comment.
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instead of the air blowing down turn the fan around
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Oh man, no soldering work, touch the thermal paste with your fingers, and put to much thermal paste on the CPU.
thanks for sharing.
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what about humidity on cold side ?
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What is that peltier model?
When I dig it out I will let you know.
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I got sick when he aplied the thermal paste to the cpu
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What id the CPU Heat rate more than TEC Cooling rate ?
This was so long ago I couldn't even begin to tell you off the top of my head.
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I do not get it. Why it is good to use a peltier module for cooling? It just creates extra heat inside of the case becoulse it has an efficiency of around 15%. Please someone explain this for me I might be wrong!
a peltier usually has 5 percent efficiency, but after insulation losses it retains about 2 percent. Logically the heat generated by the hot side should get fanned out from the case itself. This is a way to ineffective heatsink for maximum cold efficiency though. Watercooling the peltierplate's hot side would provide quite a bit colder temps on the cold side. Peltier cooling for cpu's is as you say just too innefective. You would need atleast a 200 watt peltierplate with some serious watercooling to see lower temps than ambient.
Was just a mess around test.
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Why the vaseline? you need temps lower than the air to form condensation....
condensation does occur when using this method.
conensation does not aoccur if its not lower temp than the air.
Why only one side thermal paste? 😮
Not needed but feel free to do your own testing. Thermal grease is great for transferring heat from one object to metal. since the plate was flush with the CPU it is really not required. Especially since we are just pushing cold downward. To my knowledge thermal grease is not designed to transfer cold. If you find otherwise please let me know, would be great to investigate further. Please sub if you can.
you put too much thermal paste on processor ,. = the thing is when you apply pressure thermal paste will squiz out of the "square quadrant" and go toward sides , then it "build up" on sides and your cool side will get in touch with your hot side by mean of thermal paste , thus creating temperature exchange between them ( eg your temperature will not get cold enough ) , which probably what happened ,
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What will happen if water vapour or condensed water come out from the peltier
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how about condensation?
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Your use of thermal paste needs serious help. A small dab is the proper amount. The paste should be very thin when working correctly.
was not touching so tried to build it up, which was a mistake. Even I cringe a little when I look back on this video. Sorry for the delay, as I'm sure you know I can't reply to everyone. Hope you enjoyed the video. Have a Happy Halloween 🎃 & please sub if you can.🙂