"BBC staff will leave en masse", hmm, I wonder if they would, because if they did, they would have to have somewhere to go. But who would employ a dyed in the wool BBC employee? I'm not sure they would survive in the real world of work, poor things. No, I think they will think of their mortgages, stay and moan and groan about it, (cue Kevin the teenager's voice) "it's SO unfair!" Yes BBC employee, life is unfair. Tough.
MrClingclong yet they justify the huge sums they pay their celeb presenters by saying exactly that: they will leave and be paid far more elsewhere, only of course they never ever do.
Regarding Sam's nonsensical and entirely wrong point, Fox wasn't ignorant about WW1, he didnt say absolutely no Sikhs fought on the front, he said that it was a bit off to find just one in a truck full of Geordies, and it blatantly was, rank tokenism and everybody knows it.
the notion that wokeness is about something as gentle as 'curiosity' is absurd. there is not an ounce of curiosity in it. Wokeness HAS the answer and we need to get in LINE.
I watched 1917 and did agree with Lawrence Fox that the Sikh soldier depicted was a bit of tokenism. What he said, which I agree with, was that they should depicted a whole platoon or company of Sikhs, as they would fought as a regiment and one Sikh would not have been embedded into a British platoon.
10:46 "Marxists and Postmodernists... these are contradictory types of thought." I think you'll find we all quite aware that our ideological opponents are internally inconsistent.
That‘s what happens when you use dictionary descriptions of these terms. But these no longer apply. Just like many other definitions. Leith clearly has no idea of the goings on.
That's because identity politics, and critical race theory are not exactly either. Coleman Hughes recently interviewed James Lindsey, and Peter Beghossian (excuse the bad spelling of these names, but I'm not sure how they are spelt), two experts on this topic (what we refer to as 'woke'). It's worth checking this out, as the inconsistency is dealt with in that discussion.
Just in case anyone is interested: Coleman Hughes discusses 'wokeness' with James Lindsay, and Peter Boghossian. This can be found under Conversations with Coleman: The Intellectual Roots of Wokeness.
We have the same malaise here in Australia "Our ABC" long ago defected to the left. Its astonishing the presumption with which The National broadcaster presumes to speak for the nation, unfettered, unquestioned, merely entitled.I feel as if i'm being choked @ battered, i always puke.🐎🐎🐎
Sam Leith... “When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.” ― G.K. Chesterton
Who would employ Zoe Ball? Given a £900,000 pay increase(of our money) despite losing 1m listeners to her radio 2 show. Only a non commercial organisation could show such largesse.
Bit insulting to follow douglas Murray with that load of drivel about "woke". The man doesnt grasp even the basic understanding of the concept. What a dullard.
My thoughts exactly. To suggest opponents of critical social justice are tilting at strawmen is ill advised enough, given Leith's own apparently floppy grip on the subject, but to do that on a podcast where he must have known Murray - who has in many ways a better understanding of the ideology than the woke themselves - was a likely contributor just made him sound like an absolute fool.
The second author says we should know about what we are criticising before we criticise, then says post modernism and Marxism are incompatible, without realising that the reason why people equate the two, is because critical theory (the academic backbone of wokeness) is crawling with self confessed Marxists who have taken the post modern tool of deconstruction to use against “structures” of power. So only someone who doesn’t know about critical theory could say it’s contradictory to say it’s a form of post modernism and Marxism. Research before you type.
@Honest John. Exactly! Even the experts, Lindsay, and Boghossian refer to this ideology as 'Wokeness', so he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. The term 'woke' is just a less longwinded term, than identity politics, and critical race theory, and is something we can all use, without having to be too intellectual about an ideology we don't agree with.
Kafka 64 Lindsay, Boghossian and Pluckrose refer to it in a few more technical ways. Applied postmodernism = the original post modernism deconstructed everything, including the Marxist meta narrative and minority identity. Critical theorists have “applied” post modernism selectively, they deconstruct only that which they want to deconstruct to gain power. So “whiteness”, capitalism, the Western Cannon & biology are deconstructed, blackness, minority cultures, trans identity and the Marxist substructure of, oppressed v oppressor, are held up as sacred truths that only racists, sexists, fascists and Nazis would fail to bow down to or question. EG: applied post modernism! The other is... Post Marxist = a form of evolved Marxism which takes the Marxist meta narrative about oppressed people, structures of power and an oppressive group which requires the toppling of civilizational structures to achieve equality and justice. It takes that away from the economic system and the proletariate v bourgeoisie and reapplies it to race. So not exactly Marxism but a bunch of Marxists reapplying the Marxist lens. EG: post Marxism. Most academics who developed, teach or are post modernist and critical theory activists will have been avowed Marxists at some point and many many still are. The founder of BLM referred to it’s leaders as “trained Marxists”, Antifa’s flag features the black of anarchy and the red for Marxism and sometimes sports the Communist insignia of three arrows. There are so many sound, informed reasons why Marxism and post modernism are used in the same breath. The contradiction isn’t ours, it’s the post modern critical theorists who’ve applied social constructionism to biology but sacred essentialism to trans identity. Deconstructed “whiteness” but lionised, capitalised & made sacred, black identity. Those of us who oppose the woke aren’t in error when we say post modernism and Marxism in quick succession, the error is on the part of normies like this author who doesn’t know that the woke movement embrace the contradiction and use it as a shield against critics.
@@honestjohn6418 I listened to Lindsay, and Boghossian's Trojan Horse series, where it became very apparent that it is practically impossible to criticise this ideology. That series was one of the most frightening things I'd ever listened to. You sound far more versed in this than I am, but I find it extremely concerning that this ideology has managed to infiltrate our institutions to the extent that it has. I did not assume you were in error, and am very aware that the founder of BLM had stated that they are trained Marxists.
Douglas Murray, beautiful on the ear, in defiance of Critical Theory. Sam Leith, poise, balanced & lucid. Melissa Kite in Dumpster Wars with "BuilderB" and Toby in noble endeavour on behalf of free speech. Thank you.
No _significant_ amount of Sikhs fought _in Europe_ during the second World War!! *1917* was an excellent film but I was rolling my eyes out of my head when I saw the Sikh soldiers; crying shame such an accurate & well-made war film has this woke addition.
Yes, being woke is like the fish in water recognising it’s in water. The criticism of people claiming to be woke is that it is a very low resolution “understanding” of society. The fish cannot recognising the complexities of themselves, the water, and location which have allowed it to inhabit that space. Just to add balance, I agree that injustice exists and requires attention, I just believe that ordinary people on both sides of the political aisle have been weaponised to see each other as an unsalvageable vestige of the other side, by a political class consumed by its own self interest. Eric and Bret Weinstein both have very interesting points of view, I would recommend them both to broaden your thinking on many topics.
Sounds awful living in Surrey. As a Northerner, I start to suffer from claustrophobia soon after Peterborough. So crowded and nowhere open and wild at all. If local councils were properly funded, they wouldn't need to charge for tips.
An admirable effort by Sam Leith, in defence of 'wokeness,' pity he had such a poor topic to defend. Whatever the original meaning of 'woke' was - being 'awake' according to Sam. It is somewhat ironic then, that the most common criticism of 'wokeness' is that its practitioners have an almost tone-deaf sense of their own lack of self-awareness. As for the definitions of 'post-modernism' and 'Marxism' - for the left, they are entirely fluid definitions and at times, flatly denied that they even exist. So, forgive any confusion we on the right may have about them.
In response to Sam Leith, taking note that you are occasionally a satirist so might have taken points in the wrong light. On the note of Dunkirk, saying that Indian's took part in the war and using that as a reason for why it's perfectly normal to see them in the Dunkirk movie, presupposes you know of an Indian regiment present during said engagement? No? didn't think so, that's because the western front was almost exclusively westeners, the rest of the British empire's forces were positioned in other theatres...If there's a WW2 movie set in those regions have at it... On the note of your grandfather, it seems to me you're saying "my grandfather is South African, South African's are racist right? well, even he has seen the light, why haven't you?" ... Now considering your education I would seriously doubt your families exposure to an english commoner let alone a black one, your rhetoric seems exactly like the one where all the westeners have done is treading on those poor majorities.
True, colonial troops were fighting in theatres near their own lands. Sam Leith was showing his utter ignorance in this respect - it was the film 1917 that showed black soldiers in a Dorset regiment which is complete nonsensical garbage and has no historical accuracy at all it was just shoved in the film to tick a box.
DOUGLAS MURRAY is making the first huge error in his recent analysis of Conservative Britain: he still assumes that DORIS JOHNSON and his 'cabal' are good actors in what is going on. Think they are determined to destroy the United Kingdom. I would love to know how Johnson, Hancock, Patel, Whitty, Vallance, and Ferguson voted in the 2016 Referendum: because I'd be willing to bet that they were all REMOANERS. The last great act that they can carry out for their Brussels Masters is to destroy the UK. ONLY this explanation accounts for the current ridiculous policies.
@@sadletrampsscooby Grant, from seeing what is happening, and realising that there ought now to be an alternative to the current measures, my speculation is the only one which makes sense.
@The505Guys If you still consider Johnson to be a good, wholesome, honest actor, after all he doing to destroy our ancient Nation, then you really must be a damned good, loyal, Tory.
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Given Mr Leith clearly hasn't watched the Fox Delingpole conversation on 1917 I'm not convinced he's read either of the books he's claimed to either. Surely editors should be picking up on the kind of false representation (they called for a movie solely focused on the exploits of Sikh soldiers in WW1 in that conversation) particularly when the writer is being snidely dismissive.
We need Jim Davison direction of the bbc and a new sketch show to shake up the bbc and liberal sheep... this would bring back 17.4 million people to watch the bbc again.... I would love to see Jim Davison in government and in the House of Parliament 😂😂😂😂 jim would make it so interesting, and give the delusional politicians both barrels every time...😂
Douglas Murray is starting to sound like Jacob Rees-Mogg doing an impression of Douglas Murray. As he's a decade younger than Jacob, that's probably a bad idea in more ways than one.
Builder boyfriend is being overused. I've read this in several articles by the one journalist and I'm not quite understanding the significance of it's usage.
A different style justice system where you have a CPS working for the government and advocate body to work with the judges to compile a summary of each case from the evidence and statements involved.. Would give everyone a fair justice system.. and real accountability against the authorities.. this would be a real change from a manipulated justice system which cares more about results and not fair and balanced justice.. Every two years police undergo customer care training and have mental health Evaluation. To help the negativity affects of being abused everyday and the affects of power ..
Defending 'woke' culture oh dear... Here is a man that can help us all... “Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown.” The King in Henry IV, Part 2 (3.1.31) At a time of night when most of his subjects are asleep, the king is up and busy about his affairs. “Maybe more suffering from insomnia - really sleepless, feeling guilty,” says Paster. “The sleep which is so important (they felt and we feel) to health is not for him, alas.”
Sam Leith was disappointing. The fish and water metaphor is like saying humans don't know what air is, office temperatures are set according to the majority preference, so is different in offices when the majority are female, some cars are designed for women including seat belt positioning and LF said he thought there should have been more Sikhs in 1917 as opposed to just 1. This is the point of wokeness, it starts with a false premise, then demands doublethink.
Douglass Murray seems to hope for something. Naive man. What is he hoping for? Boris Johnson is not Genghiz Khan, and I am not sure even he would be able to change anything for the better.
Melissa Kite could go further and emulate the gangster landlord and alleged murderer Hoogstraten who she seems to admire and shoot fly tippers. Perhaps like Hoogstraten she wants to do the same to ramblers.
Mr Leith, to attest that 'There is nuance' is to spout the same 'The sky is blue' (or water is water)argument that you accuse your peers of. The silent majority know this, that is the issue. We KNOW the world is still not fair, but we're doing better than we ever have been, and burning everything down wont fix it. Fighting 'wokeness' is fighting the *exaggeration* of the issue, not the underlining notions. The vast majority of people on the right take for granted that races, sexes etc. should be treated equally, or that the environment should be protected, its just so obvious we don't make a whole song and dance about it. What were fighting now is an insincere exaggeration of the blatantly obvious to gain power, either socially (virtue signalling) or politically (pandering).
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"BBC staff will leave en masse", hmm, I wonder if they would, because if they did, they would have to have somewhere to go. But who would employ a dyed in the wool BBC employee? I'm not sure they would survive in the real world of work, poor things. No, I think they will think of their mortgages, stay and moan and groan about it, (cue Kevin the teenager's voice) "it's SO unfair!" Yes BBC employee, life is unfair. Tough.
MrClingclong yet they justify the huge sums they pay their celeb presenters by saying exactly that: they will leave and be paid far more elsewhere, only of course they never ever do.
Regarding Sam's nonsensical and entirely wrong point, Fox wasn't ignorant about WW1, he didnt say absolutely no Sikhs fought on the front, he said that it was a bit off to find just one in a truck full of Geordies, and it blatantly was, rank tokenism and everybody knows it.
the notion that wokeness is about something as gentle as 'curiosity' is absurd. there is not an ounce of curiosity in it. Wokeness HAS the answer and we need to get in LINE.
Straight forward totalitarian thinking as far as I can see.
Get woke, go nuts
Please consider adding timestamps spectator, cheers
I watched 1917 and did agree with Lawrence Fox that the Sikh soldier depicted was a bit of tokenism. What he said, which I agree with, was that they should depicted a whole platoon or company of Sikhs, as they would fought as a regiment and one Sikh would not have been embedded into a British platoon.
Douglas on top form as usual, very accurate analysis
10:46 "Marxists and Postmodernists... these are contradictory types of thought."
I think you'll find we all quite aware that our ideological opponents are internally inconsistent.
That‘s what happens when you use dictionary descriptions of these terms. But these no longer apply. Just like many other definitions. Leith clearly has no idea of the goings on.
That's because identity politics, and critical race theory are not exactly either. Coleman Hughes recently interviewed James Lindsey, and Peter Beghossian (excuse the bad spelling of these names, but I'm not sure how they are spelt), two experts on this topic (what we refer to as 'woke'). It's worth checking this out, as the inconsistency is dealt with in that discussion.
Just in case anyone is interested: Coleman Hughes discusses 'wokeness' with James Lindsay, and Peter Boghossian. This can be found under Conversations with Coleman: The Intellectual Roots of Wokeness.
Sam Leith has completely missed the point. The inconsistency of these varies positions has been discussed many times over.
Communists and more Communists
We have the same malaise here in Australia "Our ABC" long ago defected to the left. Its astonishing the presumption with which The National broadcaster presumes to speak for the nation, unfettered, unquestioned, merely entitled.I feel as if i'm being choked @ battered, i always puke.🐎🐎🐎
Sam Leith... “When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”
― G.K. Chesterton
Tony Blair has a lot to answer for
Nearly everything bad in British society today can honestly be traced back to that fucker.
@@hayleylongster4698 i disagree
Hayley Longster that is right, he should be in jail😡 can’t stand looking at him .....
To Douglas Murray I simply say Thank you .
Are non white applicants for government jobs also sent on unconscious bias training ?
Who would employ Zoe Ball? Given a £900,000 pay increase(of our money) despite losing 1m listeners to her radio 2 show. Only a non commercial organisation could show such largesse.
Bit insulting to follow douglas Murray with that load of drivel about "woke". The man doesnt grasp even the basic understanding of the concept. What a dullard.
My thoughts exactly. To suggest opponents of critical social justice are tilting at strawmen is ill advised enough, given Leith's own apparently floppy grip on the subject, but to do that on a podcast where he must have known Murray - who has in many ways a better understanding of the ideology than the woke themselves - was a likely contributor just made him sound like an absolute fool.
What on Earth does the oscillograph red line contribute, other than distraction and irritation?
Love this read out! 👍👍👍
The second author says we should know about what we are criticising before we criticise, then says post modernism and Marxism are incompatible, without realising that the reason why people equate the two, is because critical theory (the academic backbone of wokeness) is crawling with self confessed Marxists who have taken the post modern tool of deconstruction to use against “structures” of power.
So only someone who doesn’t know about critical theory could say it’s contradictory to say it’s a form of post modernism and Marxism.
Research before you type.
@Honest John. Exactly! Even the experts, Lindsay, and Boghossian refer to this ideology as 'Wokeness', so he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. The term 'woke' is just a less longwinded term, than identity politics, and critical race theory, and is something we can all use, without having to be too intellectual about an ideology we don't agree with.
This is the problem.
Most woke schlubs don't even know what it is they're espousing.
Kafka 64
Lindsay, Boghossian and Pluckrose refer to it in a few more technical ways.
Applied postmodernism = the original post modernism deconstructed everything, including the Marxist meta narrative and minority identity. Critical theorists have “applied” post modernism selectively, they deconstruct only that which they want to deconstruct to gain power. So “whiteness”, capitalism, the Western Cannon & biology are deconstructed, blackness, minority cultures, trans identity and the Marxist substructure of, oppressed v oppressor, are held up as sacred truths that only racists, sexists, fascists and Nazis would fail to bow down to or question. EG: applied post modernism!
The other is...
Post Marxist = a form of evolved Marxism which takes the Marxist meta narrative about oppressed people, structures of power and an oppressive group which requires the toppling of civilizational structures to achieve equality and justice. It takes that away from the economic system and the proletariate v bourgeoisie and reapplies it to race. So not exactly Marxism but a bunch of Marxists reapplying the Marxist lens. EG: post Marxism.
Most academics who developed, teach or are post modernist and critical theory activists will have been avowed Marxists at some point and many many still are.
The founder of BLM referred to it’s leaders as “trained Marxists”, Antifa’s flag features the black of anarchy and the red for Marxism and sometimes sports the Communist insignia of three arrows. There are so many sound, informed reasons why Marxism and post modernism are used in the same breath.
The contradiction isn’t ours, it’s the post modern critical theorists who’ve applied social constructionism to biology but sacred essentialism to trans identity. Deconstructed “whiteness” but lionised, capitalised & made sacred, black identity.
Those of us who oppose the woke aren’t in error when we say post modernism and Marxism in quick succession, the error is on the part of normies like this author who doesn’t know that the woke movement embrace the contradiction and use it as a shield against critics.
@@honestjohn6418 I listened to Lindsay, and Boghossian's Trojan Horse series, where it became very apparent that it is practically impossible to criticise this ideology. That series was one of the most frightening things I'd ever listened to. You sound far more versed in this than I am, but I find it extremely concerning that this ideology has managed to infiltrate our institutions to the extent that it has. I did not assume you were in error, and am very aware that the founder of BLM had stated that they are trained Marxists.
More Douglas Murray please.
Douglas Murray, beautiful on the ear, in defiance of Critical Theory. Sam Leith, poise, balanced & lucid. Melissa Kite in Dumpster Wars with "BuilderB" and Toby in noble endeavour on behalf of free speech. Thank you.
Charles Moore has ruled himself out of the running already!
No _significant_ amount of Sikhs fought _in Europe_ during the second World War!! *1917* was an excellent film but I was rolling my eyes out of my head when I saw the Sikh soldiers; crying shame such an accurate & well-made war film has this woke addition.
Yes, being woke is like the fish in water recognising it’s in water. The criticism of people claiming to be woke is that it is a very low resolution “understanding” of society. The fish cannot recognising the complexities of themselves, the water, and location which have allowed it to inhabit that space.
Just to add balance, I agree that injustice exists and requires attention, I just believe that ordinary people on both sides of the political aisle have been weaponised to see each other as an unsalvageable vestige of the other side, by a political class consumed by its own self interest.
Eric and Bret Weinstein both have very interesting points of view, I would recommend them both to broaden your thinking on many topics.
Sam Leith very poor defence
Sounds awful living in Surrey. As a Northerner, I start to suffer from claustrophobia soon after Peterborough. So crowded and nowhere open and wild at all. If local councils were properly funded, they wouldn't need to charge for tips.
Excellent
An admirable effort by Sam Leith, in defence of 'wokeness,' pity he had such a poor topic to defend. Whatever the original meaning of 'woke' was - being 'awake' according to Sam. It is somewhat ironic then, that the most common criticism of 'wokeness' is that its practitioners have an almost tone-deaf sense of their own lack of self-awareness. As for the definitions of 'post-modernism' and 'Marxism' - for the left, they are entirely fluid definitions and at times, flatly denied that they even exist. So, forgive any confusion we on the right may have about them.
Thumbs up! Great.
In response to Sam Leith, taking note that you are occasionally a satirist so might have taken points in the wrong light. On the note of Dunkirk, saying that Indian's took part in the war and using that as a reason for why it's perfectly normal to see them in the Dunkirk movie, presupposes you know of an Indian regiment present during said engagement? No? didn't think so, that's because the western front was almost exclusively westeners, the rest of the British empire's forces were positioned in other theatres...If there's a WW2 movie set in those regions have at it...
On the note of your grandfather, it seems to me you're saying "my grandfather is South African, South African's are racist right? well, even he has seen the light, why haven't you?" ... Now considering your education I would seriously doubt your families exposure to an english commoner let alone a black one, your rhetoric seems exactly like the one where all the westeners have done is treading on those poor majorities.
True, colonial troops were fighting in theatres near their own lands. Sam Leith was showing his utter ignorance in this respect - it was the film 1917 that showed black soldiers in a Dorset regiment which is complete nonsensical garbage and has no historical accuracy at all it was just shoved in the film to tick a box.
Yes , clue is World War.
Lawrence Fox knew that they didn't fight as a sole individual among English soldiers but in Indian regiments, unlike Sam Leith.
When at war, never tell enemy voters the truth. #TRUMP that.
Does Melissa Kite's field happen to be on a national footpath? I am confused, are people trespassing or are they walking on a valid route?
DOUGLAS MURRAY is making the first huge error in his recent analysis of Conservative Britain: he still assumes that DORIS JOHNSON and his 'cabal' are good actors in what is going on. Think they are determined to destroy the United Kingdom. I would love to know how Johnson, Hancock, Patel, Whitty, Vallance, and Ferguson voted in the 2016 Referendum: because I'd be willing to bet that they were all REMOANERS. The last great act that they can carry out for their Brussels Masters is to destroy the UK. ONLY this explanation accounts for the current ridiculous policies.
Mark Dyer interesting view gives pause for thought but does not explain all the nonsense in oz or Canada the bbc are in short guilty of treason
@@sadletrampsscooby Grant, from seeing what is happening, and realising that there ought now to be an alternative to the current measures, my speculation is the only one which makes sense.
@The505Guys If you still consider Johnson to be a good, wholesome, honest actor, after all he doing to destroy our ancient Nation, then you really must be a damned good, loyal, Tory.
Sam Leith proves that the Spectator is very, very tolerant. Event of drivel.
STEP... 14
Stop foreign aid for five years To help rebuild Britons services.
Gives the NHS a extra 13 billion.
which is 52 billon invested over 4 years..
The police force gets 1 billion Every year for 5 years which adds up to 5 billion .
This gets the country 100 thousand,more police on the streets,Keeping the country safe..
STEP 15 .
The People's party have got plans for a new European partnership with control borders and no charges to the taxpayers...
European Partnership with all the benefits but no European government or commission,
Real balance economy for the country and Europe,
or we leave.
But now hard brexit.
STEP 16
The people's party will build 500 thousand government owned homes,
Ever year for the hard working people.
At the lowest cost to the taxpayers ever,
and massive profits back to the governments coffers,
And with no green fields used.
STEP 17
The People's party would replace the House of Lords,
with 200 people that are elected from the working class.
50 from each part of the country that makes up Great Britain.
To help hold the government to account.
Going from 800 to 200 lords,
Which saves 600 wages and pensions Which saves Taxpayers millions money.
STEP 18
Pp will look at the farmers grant,
which shouldn't be paid to land owners which have a personal wealth of over a million,
Saving taxpayer millions.
And deregulating the hemp industry,
to give farmers a cash rich crop for higher profits and to help fight climate change.
And create wood flooring and noncombustible insolation and so much more..
Step 19
Pp promise in 7 years we will bring down the retirement age,
to 60 for every person.
Wpp
will look to bringing in A semi retired age for the country,
To help people adjust to retirement,
And giving more time for family and friends.
Which helps keep a balance mind and body,
And helps to train the next generation,
which will take over the jobs..
Helping to pass real experience on to the next generation.
STEP .. 20
The people's party will bring back clean government run coal power stations To burn the country's waste,
And copying European countries.
And to help cover the country's energy demands.
Power Stations with clean air filters to clean up the carbon monoxide emissions.
Just like the country's around the world do now.
But this government has no clue the facts from the real world.
The pp will stop the elite robbing the people taxes..
STEP 21.,,,,,,,,
The. Pp
will stop companies having to pay people's pensions.
it will become optional once again,
this will help rollback zero hours contracts.
And stop corporations getting away with not paying the right level of taxes..
which has been bad for most people and the country.
STEP 22
The British fishing fleet and Industry will be rebuilt,
giving the country good paying jobs.
no more leaving the coastal communities behind ,
And 6 billion added to Britain economy.
STEP 23
The country will get a vote if MPs get a pay rise or not !!
time for change people..
STEP 24
new tax level,from 150 thousand and above At 55 percent.
This hits the top earners and not the people at the bottom,
More balanced economy.
STEP 25
A new justice body to site next to The judiciary system
To give the country a level justice system not manipulated by money or power.
People's party
Budget from
Pfi refinance. 35 billion
New Income-tax
Level 65percent 50 billion
Over 150.000
Legalise
Cannabis . 25 billion
Eu payments. Save.100 billion
Lords savings. Save. 6 billion
Foreign aid. Save 65 billion
Totally budget. 300 billion
Extra money to invest in Britain
Great policies,from the People's party, to rebuild a brighter future for us all ✌️✌✌✌✌✌✌✌✌✌✌✌✌✌
When I hear the word progressive, I reach for my Luger.
Douglas Murray yearning for the radical right to govern every aspect of media, now there is a surprise.
Given Mr Leith clearly hasn't watched the Fox Delingpole conversation on 1917 I'm not convinced he's read either of the books he's claimed to either. Surely editors should be picking up on the kind of false representation (they called for a movie solely focused on the exploits of Sikh soldiers in WW1 in that conversation) particularly when the writer is being snidely dismissive.
We need Jim Davison direction of the bbc and a new sketch show to shake up the bbc and liberal sheep... this would bring back 17.4 million people to watch the bbc again....
I would love to see Jim Davison in government and in the House of Parliament 😂😂😂😂 jim would make it so interesting, and give the delusional politicians both barrels every time...😂
Douglas Murray is starting to sound like Jacob Rees-Mogg doing an impression of Douglas Murray. As he's a decade younger than Jacob, that's probably a bad idea in more ways than one.
Builder boyfriend is being overused. I've read this in several articles by the one journalist and I'm not quite understanding the significance of it's usage.
A different style justice system where you have a CPS working for the government and advocate body to work with the judges to compile a summary of each case from the evidence and statements involved..
Would give everyone a fair justice system.. and real accountability against the authorities..
this would be a real change from a manipulated justice system which cares more about results and not fair and balanced justice..
Every two years police undergo customer care training and have mental health Evaluation.
To help the negativity affects of being abused everyday and the affects of power ..
My negative £8 investment in the Spectator is bearing fruit, I'm afraid. 😂
Defending 'woke' culture oh dear... Here is a man that can help us all... “Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown.”
The King in Henry IV, Part 2 (3.1.31)
At a time of night when most of his subjects are asleep, the king is up and busy about his affairs.
“Maybe more suffering from insomnia - really sleepless, feeling guilty,” says Paster. “The sleep which is so important (they felt and we feel) to health is not for him, alas.”
Guys what’s with the audio quality on the recordings? Was it recorded in a tin can??
Douglas Murray and Toby Young must be thrilled to be the bread in this particular shit sandwich.
Rudolph Nureyev 🦋
Boring boring you lost the plot 😂😂😂😂😂
Douglas Murray
---------> Fast forward
Toby Young.
Lol.
Sam Leith was disappointing. The fish and water metaphor is like saying humans don't know what air is, office temperatures are set according to the majority preference, so is different in offices when the majority are female, some cars are designed for women including seat belt positioning and LF said he thought there should have been more Sikhs in 1917 as opposed to just 1. This is the point of wokeness, it starts with a false premise, then demands doublethink.
Douglass Murray seems to hope for something. Naive man. What is he hoping for?
Boris Johnson is not Genghiz Khan, and I am not sure even he would be able to change anything for the better.
Melissa Kite could go further and emulate the gangster landlord and alleged murderer Hoogstraten who she seems to admire and shoot fly tippers. Perhaps like Hoogstraten she wants to do the same to ramblers.
This is all mindlessly right-wing isn't it?
No need for the voice vibrations flashing on the screen. Irritating.
/telegraph
I think your AI breaks at the very end of this video.
Mr Leith, to attest that 'There is nuance' is to spout the same 'The sky is blue' (or water is water)argument that you accuse your peers of. The silent majority know this, that is the issue. We KNOW the world is still not fair, but we're doing better than we ever have been, and burning everything down wont fix it. Fighting 'wokeness' is fighting the *exaggeration* of the issue, not the underlining notions. The vast majority of people on the right take for granted that races, sexes etc. should be treated equally, or that the environment should be protected, its just so obvious we don't make a whole song and dance about it. What were fighting now is an insincere exaggeration of the blatantly obvious to gain power, either socially (virtue signalling) or politically (pandering).
Could you put you critical eye over this manifesto and give us your honest reply would be very interesting coming from the spectator ..
Realist People's party investment plans that has no borrowing
Just better management of Britain's economy gives us 300 billion to invest over 5 years..
If We stand together,
we can get real changed .
People party
The best chance for a brighter future for the country...
25 policies to rebuild the country's economy and Standard of living.
STEP 1
Pp
will refinance the pfi borrowing rate,
Which saves the country 7 billion a year.
Which the government could have done this 13 years ago,
and saved the country 42 billion.
But the conservative did nothing because it's the Tories friends that are getting the taxpayers money..
Funny that!!
STEP 2
Stop charity groups and religious groups receiving government money.
STEP 3
Change slaughter methods in Britain With more humane methods.
Giving the industry Quality products to lead the world, with better tasting humanly killed meat..
STEP 4
legalise Cannabis ..
So people can grow On a small scale for personal use,
This would saves the NHS billions..
This is what experts has been telling the government for years,
its healthier then alcohol And treatment for so many types of illnesses and diseases.
And gives the country 5 billion in taxes to spend on services..
STEP 5
release people convicted of cannabis,
and supply the prisoners with cannabis to help calm down the prison,
And this would get spice out of the prison...
legalising cannabis would help stop People fighting in clubs and pubs around British streets.
The savings would be spent on training courses for the prisoners.
This would help to stop criminals repeat offending.
This would give prison staff better working conditions and more money for their hard work.
This would give the country billions on savings to be spend on the NHS,
and the police forces around the country..
giving police more resources,
to keep the public SAFE.
With no added cost to taxpayers.
STEP 6
Wpp
would invest in a government bank to help low income families.
Which can be set up in local post offices around the country.
Which means reopening all closed post offices,
up and down the country,,
Which helps the local people.
And All the staff and buildings are ready to go,
and this would help keep the interest rates a workable levels.
STEP. 7
Pp
We will start a government owned renewable energy company,
With Solar panels and tidal turbines at its heart.
Solar panels on every government buildings,
and council homes..
giving people cleaner cheaper energy.
tidal turbines, poo power and river energy,
all clean and cheaper Energy sources,
And government owned companies.
Giving the country well-paid jobs and profits,
Back to government coffers.
STEP 8.
Pp
will give the country 40 hours a week working time,
with six weeks holiday a year..
More time for you and your family.
This will be in place in 5 years,
when the country's investment and profits start rolling back.
xx the pp
will have 300 billion to invest in Great Britain.
Which will go up to 600 billion,
after 5 years.
with profitable government run businesses..
And profits running into the government,
and spent on services.
The country will have No need to borrow a penny.
with the Working people's party plans..
just good economics and good management of the country's money..
STEP 9
Wpp
We will help people with the most difficult questions in life.
To have a baby terminated or not,
The working people's party will help take ever unwanted baby,
and give them the best education and start in life.
With a well funded social services and children's protection department..
Which would help people not take that step to far,
Which never leaves your mind.
But !!! it's up to the individual what they choose to do.
Working people's party,
cares for all ( that's a promise xxx
STEP 10
We will bring Back WTS training course for all ages,
To help all people achieve the bests they can be.
Gives everyone a great job, future and home life..
Which means happy population which is why
the government is elected.
STEP 11.
The NHS money back plan,
that the Conservative party tried to steal off us .
but has no idea how it works efficiently.
This is some of the working people's party ideas for the country..
We can do it,
If we Stand together .
STEP 12 .....
5 years in prison for hurting animals.
Experts say this type of people sometimes Can go on to hurting children and Adults in the future.
So we get them into prison and see how messed up they are,
Which helps keep British people safe.
STEP 13
The Paedophile's and rapist gets 10 years to life,
for their sick acts they committed...
Because their victims never get over this hell.
The elite or working class have to get help,
or pay for their sick crimes.,
And get some help or get locked up simple..