The Pre-Adamite World and the Origin of Sin w/ Dr. Stuart Graham

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  • @renejacques8288
    @renejacques8288 8 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Very good revelation about how the single most changing event in the history of the planet is the birth of Jesus Christ and the power it gives the believer. I feel extremely empowered by that revelation. It's the single most important lesson I learned from this video. I'm very blessed to have watched it.

    • @SegaSavageMusic
      @SegaSavageMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes god is tyr judge satan is the states attorney and jesus is your lawyer when you go court which side do yoi sit on the left which for the judge is the right and jesus sits with you on the right hsnd of god

  • @mrvax2
    @mrvax2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This was excellent. It is willful pride that keeps some folks from realizing all the Bible facts brought to light in this lesson.

  • @entrepreneurcity3317
    @entrepreneurcity3317 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really enjoy the preadamite teachings I also appreciate you allowing us to dialogue in the comment section 😤🤝I observed most of the other teachers disabled it when teaching this topic 💯

  • @WDA-
    @WDA- ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best lecturer I ever sat through in my life. And the most important. The unbelieving world pays hundreds of thousands of dollars for college. Just to challenge the will of God. It takes great faith to believe in the Big bang

  • @maudeannelockhart7844
    @maudeannelockhart7844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really enjoyed this lecture, opened my eyes to a lot of things that was in question for me. Thank you so much, very well done!!!

  • @tladoux
    @tladoux 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes! Create means created from nothing and the word made means made from something already existing. This gave me a whole different view of Genesis 1. This earth is old and the bible talks about a time before this creation we live in.

  • @KennyVert
    @KennyVert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Btw, The fact that the same word meaning replenish is used with Adam and Eve that was used with Noah, is probably the most interesting thing I have heard taught from the Bible in a long time. I mean… it changes everything.

    • @bobjohnson1689
      @bobjohnson1689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry Kenneth , it changes nothing , the word replenish only meant to fill when the KJV was introduced , God told Adam to fill the earth and God told Noah to fill the earth .

    • @MaineMachinist
      @MaineMachinist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bobjohnson1689 then why in the dozens upon dozens of other times the word “fill” or “filled” is used in the KJV, it never used the word replenish for that?
      Joseph FILLED their sacks with corn. He didn’t REPLENISH the bags with corn.
      That word REPLENISH is only used TWICE in the KJV….
      That’s purposeful

    • @xXMiniMegaXx
      @xXMiniMegaXx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you missed his point. The way you view the word replenish is the modern definition of it. in 1611 it didn’t mean what it does today. it simply meant “to fill”. The Hebrew words for fill and also for replenish are the same words, and the translators may have thought that when the Hebrew word was in reference to humans, the word ‘replenish’ was more accurate because it is a more personal and less objectified word. and the word ‘fill’ is better for things like fish and corn because they aren’t personal in the same way humans are; they are more viewed as objects.
      these are from a website that is dedicated to finding archaic definitions for words in the KJV (because language changes overtime and there’s words in the KJV we don’t use anymore):
      Webster’s 1828 Dictionary
      “Replenish”
      1. To fill; to stock with numbers or abundance.
      2. To finish; to complete. [Not in use.]
      Whereas the word fill has a more object oriented definition in Elizabethan English;
      the first four definitions of fill:
      Webster’s 1828 Dictionary
      “Fill”
      1. Properly, to press; to crowd; to stuff.
      2. To store; to supply with abundance.
      3. To cause to abound; to make universally prevalent.
      4. To satisfy; to content.
      The rest are like it.
      It just seems that the word fill isn’t fitting for people, and replenish fits more properly when talking about people in Elizabethan English (the language of the KJV).
      If you were going to argue for the word replenish to mean what it means now, you would have to disregard the Hebrew (meaning the KJV english is more inspired than the original Hebrew), and that the modern meaning of the words is what they were originally intended to mean (meaning that the KJV was inspired and meant for a later group of people, and the early translators didn’t understand what they were writing).
      The implication of the second point also means that you aren’t allowed to use an archaic dictionary for definitions of the archaic words, because they need to be understood with modern definitions, which a lot of the words don’t have modern definitions because they have become dead words. Or else then you would be picking and choosing which words can have archaic definitions and which words can have modern meanings.
      The fact of the matter is that the translators of the KJV simply wouldn’t have even understood that the word replenished meant to refill, because it didn’t actually mean that at that time
      ‘Replenish’ archaic definition:
      www.kingjamesbibledictionary.com/Dictionary/replenish
      ‘Fill’ archaic definition:
      www.kingjamesbibledictionary.com/Dictionary/fill

    • @MaineMachinist
      @MaineMachinist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xXMiniMegaXx Actually, it has you that missed the point. You have, in fact, proven my point.

    • @grifo3310
      @grifo3310 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bobjohnson1689 Nah buddy

  • @Light777-fs6rx
    @Light777-fs6rx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is possible & straight forward that as God was creating it became or came into existence without form but then God formed it as He continued, we don't need to go beyond scripture

  • @pamelaulery2772
    @pamelaulery2772 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't know about anyone else, but with my audio turned all the way up, the volume is still so low it makes listening very difficult. It's frustrating because this is something I would really like to hear.

    • @grgustafson3777
      @grgustafson3777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An external speaker helped greatly. I used a bluetooth made to play music outside.

    • @kabodick
      @kabodick ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Must be your device. I didn’t have any issues the volume being too low.

  • @KennyVert
    @KennyVert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have become very fascinated with the pre-Adamite world, and am wondering why I’m just hearing about this stuff in my 30’s.

    • @Josieb4008
      @Josieb4008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because ppl don't bother to compare to the original language

    • @corinnebrosseau6896
      @corinnebrosseau6896 ปีที่แล้ว

      They dont read it they just listen to preachers and teachers without verifying it themselves..no study involved.

  • @davidappleton2905
    @davidappleton2905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thank you, Dr. Graham, for your very good teaching on the Pre - Adamite World and the Origin of Sin. I have always wondered about that gap in Genisis 1: 1 - 2. God has answered it, Praise the Lord, thank you again. May the Good Lord continue to enrich you with His Wisdom and Boldness in shedding His light in this wicked world.

    • @scotttousey227
      @scotttousey227 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let us make man in our image was the other races Gid finished His work on the 7th day and rested from all His work after the 7th day God planted a garden in the east of edon and had no man to till it so he formed the man adam to till the ground from the dust of the earth and breathed the breath of life here God formed adam from an already created dust in chapter 1 He created from nothing they male and female dident receive the breath of life God's spirit in chapter 1 the word adam means to see blood in the face to blush ruddy adam was the son of God read Luke's genealogy all beings are not God's children only adamites are sons of God .

  • @davidl.williams7366
    @davidl.williams7366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Doubters about the word, "was" should be "became" need to know that the same Hebrew word used there translated, "was" is translated "became" where Lot's wife "became" a pillar of salt. The man is right.

    • @scotttousey227
      @scotttousey227 ปีที่แล้ว

      The jews changed the original paleo text to masarotic text to change dates and prophecy trying to disclaim Jesus being the messiah and his perfect timing of his first arrival as Jesus said beware the pharisees hypocrites and SCRIBES it was a obvious statement for us in this time

    • @rickiemoore6014
      @rickiemoore6014 ปีที่แล้ว

      Homework is correct

    • @millennialfalcon1547
      @millennialfalcon1547 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My understanding is The word can be translated both ways technically. The clearest textual argument for me, comes from the verse that says- God did NOT create the world "without form and void".
      If he did not create it that way, then it must have 'become" that way.

    • @davidl.williams7366
      @davidl.williams7366 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@millennialfalcon1547 I didn't mention that in the early scrolls, the word, "was," was not even used. It was added by later translators. (One thing at a time.) #;o)

    • @davidl.williams7366
      @davidl.williams7366 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. In my KJV, that word, "was," was in italics. Check your version.@@cajaction7995

  • @rgnold2517
    @rgnold2517 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this presentation

  • @TheRgordon16
    @TheRgordon16 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another thing to consider is the fact that the heavens above had nothing to do with Noah's flood. So why would Peter even mention the heavens above being old if he was referring to Noah's flood?

    • @Dazzwidd
      @Dazzwidd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly, 2 Peter 3:5-6 "For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
      Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished"

  • @Sandwichking-hikes
    @Sandwichking-hikes ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The fall of Lucifer must have been pre-Adam because his fall sin was described as trying to be like the most high, not for deceiving Eve which was obviously a sin

    • @donthomas4793
      @donthomas4793 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read revelation 12 that gives you the timeframe of when Lucifer fell or the dragon if you will.

  • @aimeedonaldson7427
    @aimeedonaldson7427 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The restrainer is the Holy Spirit. The church will not be taken before the tribulation.

  • @titodalporto1527
    @titodalporto1527 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr. Graham
    You should have in this video lesson
    pointed out that the Creator of everything that is and exists is Jesus Christ and the only one He answers to, is God the Father.

  • @Loyaltochrist
    @Loyaltochrist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If Adam and lord Jesus were tempted by devil then who tempted Lucifer?

    • @william0795
      @william0795 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lucifer were made good at his purpose-no one tempted him, God made him God own adversary.

    • @eswn1816
      @eswn1816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bible: Lucifer fell because of his own pride. He choose his path in opposition to God.

  • @TheLionAndTheLamb777
    @TheLionAndTheLamb777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This makes sense, but I am going to need to consider and reason about this all. That may possibly take a long time.

  • @iamcedricpowell8051
    @iamcedricpowell8051 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don 't have time to go into now. But this was very interesting. I am still studying this... But I am open to the Truth! I do not think that scripture in Isaiah about Lucifer falling is totally talking about the the Pre Earth that you speak about. I believe that some of it is speaking about the past and the latter part is speaking about the future Post Adam 's fall world.
    The scripture in Peter is a great one. I never saw it like that before. So it gives me curiosity to think, pray, and study more on this.
    But in the end. It is a great discussion to have . BUT I think it is too complicated for many people. Including myself in some ways and I love the higher thought stuff. That is why I am here. In the end this is a discussion that does not matter much to most of us. Meaning our faith will not rest on this issue.
    But I see the usefulness of the discussion. Some Christians don 't want to be against Science... You are pointing out hey let's not fight this if it is in the Bible.... It 's Science!!! I get it . Just complicated.

  • @paulmorris8762
    @paulmorris8762 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you are correct re "was" being rendered "became" as scholars from Derek Prince, to amny today will agree. Also, the first word v2 "and" is more properly rendered "but" so then the passage would read "But the earth became formless and void..."

    • @castanheiro6170
      @castanheiro6170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Paul, you don't know what you're talking about. You can't just change the language and put any old word in there that you want to. The word in the Hebrew is "and", not "but! they are different words. Don't just inject what you want it to say. That is exactly what God was talking about when He said, "don't change the Word of God!", or you'll be in danger of hell. God said what He said and that's it. I don't care whether you or anyone else likes it or doesn't like it! It's God's book to us, not our writings that we can change! Get yourself straightened out and lined up with God's word before it's too late!

  • @grifo3310
    @grifo3310 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr. Arnold Murray teaches about this. Dr. Larry Ollison as well.

  • @kevinkall8547
    @kevinkall8547 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The first verse of scripture is misinterpreted
    Bereʾšyt 1:1 "In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth", particularly the word בּרא (bârâ') which everyone thinks means 'created'. It also means 'cut' or 'cut down' as in Joshua 17:15,18. This other interpretation matches the second verse: "And the earth came to be formless and empty". So how can this world be created and then made void?? Plug in the new definition into the two verses:
    "In the beginning, Elohim cut down the heavens and the earth. And the earth came to be formless and empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep."
    That is the true phrase no one wants to see, but it does support the world before the one we live in and gives evidence of the world of past.

    • @jpaul1599
      @jpaul1599 ปีที่แล้ว

      Believers know that the Word of God is truth, inerrant and that God does not lie.
      Once we accept the above, the following truths and the very first prophetic declaration of Genesis 1:2 about "the end of the first Earth at the end of time" are not questionable.
      Genesis 1:1 > In "the Beginning" God created the heaven and the earth.
      Genesis 1:2 > [End] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
      Isaiah 46:9-10 > ... I am God, and there is none like me, "Declaring the End from the Beginning", and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
      2 Peter 3:10 > ... and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, "the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
      Revelation 21:1 > ... and the "First Earth" were passed away;
      Based on all of the above, If Scripture is interpreted correctly and honestly then there is absolutely no scope for anyone to use their imagination to propound the false narrative of a pre-Adamic race or civilization or any history before Day 1 of the 6 day creation week.
      Besides, to accept the preAdamic race etc would require believers to then think
      that not only did Lucifer (Satan, Devil ) outwit God by rebelling in Heaven leading to the first destruction of creation, he again outwit God by deceiving Eve in the garden etc.
      God created all beings (angels, man etc) with the foreknowledge that Lucifer would rebel (out of pride and envy), that Eve would be deceived through unbelief in HIS word (but belief in word of the serpent) and that would require HIS own intervention as the atonement to redeem " believers" with whom HE will dwell forever on the New Earth after the thousand year reign of Christ from Jerusalem.
      God made provision for redemption even before HE created any thing (before the foundation of the world) and that's why Scripture states in 1 Peter 1:18-21 > Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, ... But with the precious blood of Christ, ... Who verily was "foreordained before the foundation of the world", but was manifest in these last times for you, Who (referring to believers) by Him do believe in God, that raised Him up from the dead, and gave Him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
      There is a reason why an omniscient God's created beings are given a free will - who of their own violation , based on the Word of God, can choose to believe in HIM or not believe, and to continue in that faith or walk away from faith.
      HE did not create preprogrammed robots unlike man (under Luciferian influence ) who now seek to merge man with machine and thus create robotic slaves who will only do the will of the master (Luci.... ).
      Shalom
      P.S. its sad that wise and well versed Bible believing people (e.g. Steve Quayle because they have been influenced by theories emanating from some theological institutions which have formulated the " gap theory" to try and corrupt the inerrant Word of God) give credence to fables & myths or some preAdamic civilization etc which would only be possible if God was caught unawares by DNA modifications by fallen celestial beings and therefore God destroying the previous creation and somehow God then created Man on Earth but somehow celestial beings again proceeded to do something similar in the days of Enoch forcing God to destroy all flesh (saving just the 8 souls and those numbered creatures on the Ark) through the universal flood in the days of Noah.
      The truth scripturally is that God in HIS omniscience foreordained redemption through Jesus Christ before HE created the first Earth and Man. All other interpretations are just man's imagination working fantasies.
      There is no way man can put a date (through radiometric or other methods etc) about age of rocks, strata etc that preceded the universal flood in the days of Noah. The only timeline is based on the genealogy from Adam onwards ... approx 5948 years according to the Dead Sea Scrolls - watch Ken Johnson on TH-cam - th-cam.com/users/live4hh_VTFWLEs?feature=share
      The truth is Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 are the bookends of history of the world that HE created. Genesis 1:3 onwards is HIS-STORY.
      Accept it in totality and don't cherry pick to create your own version of HIS-STORY.

    • @kevinkall8547
      @kevinkall8547 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jpaul1599 Quayle is a crackpot. You lost me when you mentioned him. Lost all credibility. So just because the verse 1st just meant to say in the beginning of this era you're assuming it speaks of the universe as a whole. I'm talking facts you're talking assumption. we will see in the end

  • @TheRgordon16
    @TheRgordon16 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Wrong! Satan did not tempt Adam. It was his wife who tempted him. The scriptures clearly says that Adam was NOT deceived by the devil. His wife was deceived. After she ignored her husband's words and accepted the serpent's words, she convinced her husband to eat the fruit. He listened to her despite the fact that he knew God told him not to eat it. Adam was never deceived about anything. He simply defied God and followed his wife. He did not exert his headship role over the woman. Instead he wimped out and yielded to her. The same spirit we have here in America today. Militant women are wanting to usurp the man's headship role and wimpy men are giving in to her misguided demands.

    • @andreshipp1134
      @andreshipp1134 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That is bull!! Adam was right with eve. Adam could have said NO!! But he didn't!! God agreement was with Adam not eve. Stop making excesses for Adam!!

    • @TheRgordon16
      @TheRgordon16 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      andre shipp: Are you even a Christian? Seems like you need to get right with The Lord first before you call yourself correcting a Christian about the scriptures. Nothing I wrote was false. And I did not say Adam was not right with Eve, so don't misinterpret what I wrote. Eve convinced her husband to do something he KNEW was against God's word. Adam told Eve it was forbidden to eat from that particular tree; NOT GOD. She did NOT listen to her husband's words, but instead, she listened to the serpent. She ignored her husband, ate from the tree, and then convinced her husband to follow her lead.
      Adam did NOT rebuke the serpent nor did he stop his wife. Instead, he allowed her to talk him into disobeying God. Go and read a Bible and see what God said to Adam "Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake..."
      Did you read that??? Eve SINNED against her husband by convincing him to eat from the tree. That's why The Lord punished her in childbearing. Adam sinned because he listened to her. So you are totally wrong. Their relationship at that point became compromised because Eve did not listen to her husband. The scriptures teach that the woman is suppose to submit to her husband's authority but Eve did not do that. Jesus also taught that we will be tempted in life. But He warned the ones who would actually do the tempting! Eve was under satanic influence NOT ADAM. And while she was under Satan's spell she tempted her husband to disobey God. Adam fell to his wife's temptation. He put his wife's word above God's word. Eve ignored her husband and Adam ignored his Father. And so here we are today in a fallen world because of them both.

    • @andreshipp1134
      @andreshipp1134 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The NIV.
      1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
      2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden,
      3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”
      4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman.
      5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
      6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.
      Read the last line. Adam was with her the whole time!! He heard the whole conversation she had with the serpent. Why didn't he correct Eve when she said it wrong? He knew the correct instructions, but he was silent. WHY?? Eve didn't have to trick, beg, seduce, whine, or anything else to get Adam to eat the fruit. READ verse 6!! She took and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, WHO WAS WITH HER, and he ate it.
      But after God busted them for he acted like child, well both of them!
      The man said, “The woman you put here with me-she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”
      13 Then the LORD God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.
      Adam said, she the women YOU PUT HERE (HIM BLAMING God)gave it to me. Eve said the serpent lied to me. Adam could have told her the truth. BUT HE DIDN'T EVEN TRY!!! So don't try to make Eve the villain and Adam the seduced husband in the story. Adam was way worst!!

    • @TheRgordon16
      @TheRgordon16 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@andreshipp1134 you need to read the complete story. What did God say to Adam "because you have LISTENED to the VOICE of your wife and have eaten from the tree..." So Eve SPOKE to Adam and CONVINCED him to eat from the tree. Yes he stood there and listened to the conversation and watched Eve eat from the tree. But after she ate it she SPOKE to Adam, she did not just turn around and give him the fruit. Dont just read certain parts of the story without reading EVERYTHING. All you are doing is presenting an incomplete picture. When Satan told Eve she would become like God knowing good and evil, was he lying about that?

    • @TheRgordon16
      @TheRgordon16 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@andreshipp1134 And another thing. You are totally missing my point. I am not saying Adam was innocent. He was not innocent of anything. Im just setting the record straight, that Adam was not deceived by the devil nor was it the devil that convinced Adam to eat from the tree. It was his WIFE. Yet that did not resolve Adam of his responsiblity to obey God no matter who it was that tried to get him to eat from the tree.

  • @Hyberlol
    @Hyberlol 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Garden of Eden was located in the tarim basin. Look up the tarim basin mummies.

  • @rickprince3765
    @rickprince3765 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How far back in the beginning?

  • @danielpenn1734
    @danielpenn1734 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1 enoch is a great way to understand that time

  • @michaeldollar5643
    @michaeldollar5643 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember Dr Stuart Graham, very good teaching.

  • @crookedinapot8980
    @crookedinapot8980 ปีที่แล้ว

    The word let implies that there is a hindrance to what was or what should be.

  • @jima3995
    @jima3995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, AND ALL THAT IS WITHIN THEM.

    • @somenteasescrituras4064
      @somenteasescrituras4064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What is the commerce of Lúcifer in Ezequiel 28?

    • @martinone9
      @martinone9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There’s a difference between making something and creating.
      I can make a chair out of a pile of wood but I don’t have the power to create a chair.
      God CREATED the heavens and the earth in the BEGINNING.
      Afterwards He separated the light from the darkness,waters from dry land etc.

    • @spikenomoon
      @spikenomoon ปีที่แล้ว

      Man brought death into the world. So if their was a civilization there was no death. Or they are not eternal with souls. Maybe it was all angels that Lucifer lorded over. 6 days and one for rest. The magnetic fields disprove this theory. Their finding dinosaurs with flesh on their bones also human footprints with Dino’s. The moon would be out of place for our perfect eclipses. Oh all civilizations have dinosaurs in their carvings and art work.
      But when was Satan evicted from heaven? This helps that problem. I believe when he was kicked out that he hit the earth at the speed of light and knocked it off it’s axis. Why would God make it son confusing ? It is important for salvation because it cause people to believe in evolution which means the Bible is not accurate. The was no death or decay before mankind. Leaves would never fall from the trees. Fruit was meat for all life. Nobody pooped or farted nothing stank or was offensive. Woman didn’t complain it was perfectly In Every way.
      Ps Did they receive grace or did they even sin ??

    • @Cuvoastoh6321
      @Cuvoastoh6321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @jima3995 Exodus 20:11 is written in the contextual focus of the Sabbath and it's surrounding importance and how it must be kept.
      But also it's really important to understand the word "made"
      Hebrew word 6213 from the Strongs, there must be about 70 applications of this word "made" and a few are:
      advance, bring forth, dressed, fashion, furnished, perform, prepare, procure, set, and trim
      In fact the word is more often translated "do" 1333 times
      more than twice as many times as it is translated "make" in the King James, 653 times
      Also look in 2nd Peter 3:5 and you will find the phrase "by the word of God the heavens were of old"
      Jeremiah 4:22-28 God himself speaking in "creation language"
      tells of some type of cataclysmic event that occurred before man. In verse 28 He, God, appoints a time for the earth to mourn and no one knows how long that mourning time was, the scripture does not reveal.

  • @jafojafo5412
    @jafojafo5412 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s my position that the 6000 year timeline is from the fall/sin of Adam. We have no idea how long or how many kids Adam and Eve had before their fall. I agree with the GAP theory as well.

  • @John-ge2ne
    @John-ge2ne ปีที่แล้ว

    He nice. Thank you.

  • @haorla
    @haorla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why was satan cast down to earth instead of another place in the universe anyone.

  • @kylestephens4133
    @kylestephens4133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Exodus 20:11 "For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."

    • @jennjenneightyeight3968
      @jennjenneightyeight3968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What "day" was the sun created. We cant call it a regular day until then. The light that was present before the sun was created was not the sun. So time was not the same. 1 day with the Lord is as a thousand years...

    • @kylestephens4133
      @kylestephens4133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jennjenneightyeight3968 the Hebrew word for day, yom, is modified by the phrase "evening-morning". In the Hebrew OT text, "evening-morning" is always a literal evening and morning. The type/source of light is irrelevant, since each day is an evening-morning which is a 24 hour period. Therefore, we can call each day of creation a regular day because each day ends with the phrase "and the evening and morning was the first day," "second day", etc. Ultimately, what is defined here for us is the seven day week.
      As to "one day is as a thousand years" this is true for the Lord, but not to us. As I just mentioned, the creation week establishes our days of work and rest. The Lord rested as an example to us. He didn't need to rest. He could have created everything in an instant, but He didn't. These were accomplished as they were for our needs, not His.

    • @jennjenneightyeight3968
      @jennjenneightyeight3968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kylestephens4133 I give up God is outside of time but you cant think beyond 24 hours.

    • @kylestephens4133
      @kylestephens4133 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jennjenneightyeight3968 you give up easy. God is outside time, but we aren't. this is basic exegesis, but that doesn't seem to be your thing. God bless.

  • @exclusive_148
    @exclusive_148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This topic is soo interesting. But there are questions to be asked. "dark was on the face of the deep". I always thought dark was referring to space. I also thought verse 1 tells you God created everything, and then tells you how he started forming the world. Its a smooth transition. Its so natural to look at genesis 1 about God creating the world for the first time than to think of it as God restoring the creating. Wheres the original creation story in the bible?? Or do Gap theorist say genesis only tells you God created the heavens and the earth (gen 1:1) then goes right into how he restored it without telling us why he had to restore it in genesis?

    • @MrWookie21
      @MrWookie21 ปีที่แล้ว

      I listened to some D. Prince sermons about this topic. He is speaking of an inference process relating the sequence of the scriptural events together, that's bringing many Bible commentators to consider this interpretation as possible.
      He also operated a comparison between the restoration process during God's earth restoration and the restoration in man, since both only take place in the light. When the Spirit & the Word of God initiated their revelation process. Nothing was restored as long as earth was kept in darkness. Likewise God doesn't operate our transformation process until every aspect of our heart has been brought into light to us. And this is initiated through the Spirit & the Word of God. This parallel is abounding for the restoration of the creating at Genesis 1.

  • @kennethmeeker6369
    @kennethmeeker6369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jesus returns as a lion ,yea it’s not to hug everybody some but not all ,holiness is out the window and none we see heaven without it

  • @Light777-fs6rx
    @Light777-fs6rx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The older meaning of the word replenish is actually simply fill, so the hiding of that info casts distrust on this teaching

    • @hvee2309
      @hvee2309 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are incorrect

    • @Light777-fs6rx
      @Light777-fs6rx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hvee2309 oh really? male or mala: to be full, to fill ,you are incorrect

  • @hayneshuntingcom
    @hayneshuntingcom ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He said God did not create the devil? So Isaiah the prophet was wrong ? " I created evil (ra) ..." Also: In Isaiah 45:1-7, the prophet foresees God calling and anointing King Cyrus of Persia to be His chosen instrument to subdue nations (namely Babylon) for the sake of His people Israel. Cyrus, who was not yet born at the time of the prophecy, did not know the Lord or even acknowledge His existence, making him an unlikely choice to be God’s anointed. The pick of Cyrus proved all the more that God is sovereign and in control of all things and people. As the only true God and Creator of all life, His authority and decisions cannot truly be challenged,. And if you read Job, the enemy ( no matter what you call him ) is like a dog on a leash, used by God for his purpose.

  • @isaacnkosi548
    @isaacnkosi548 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you are seemingly failing to understand that the prophecy in isaiah is written in signs and symbols? Also in revelation the same thing is happening..

  • @EternalLifeNews
    @EternalLifeNews 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Isaac La Peyrère, a French heretic, came up with the pre adamic theory in 1655 AD. God said through Moses in (Genesis 1:5) "And the evening and the morning were the first day." There is no Gap between (Genesis 1:1 and 1:2). Satan repurposes just about every error and heresy he has ever engineered or promoted. Seldom do you encounter a totally original false teaching. The devil regularly takes advantage of the fact that human beings have short memories and are easily distracted.

    • @rod8989
      @rod8989 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone not believing in the false trinity doctrine were deemed heretics by roman catholic church back in the day does that mean trinity is true? It's still a popular teaching but its false bible refutes it throughout I think its heretical but wouldn't go as far as to say its condemning people

    • @EternalLifeNews
      @EternalLifeNews 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps you prefer the name "Godhead" instead of "Trinity". Act_17:29; Rom_1:20; Col_2:9.

    • @rod8989
      @rod8989 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reading through Isaiah really to sounds like God the Father really hammers home hes only true God don't get me wrong though Jesus definitely was pre existing before the earth was formed is the head of the church and the head of him is Father God Jesus is Son of God first in rank behind God. Here are some specific verses that make me not believe a trinity
      Hebrews 3:1 Consequently, brothers set apart, partakers of a most exalted position, consider the apostle and high priest of our declaration, Jesus Christ,
      2 faithful to Him Who CREATED him, as Moses also was in all his house.
      3 For he has been counted worthy of more eminence than Moses, since the one having constructed it has more honour than the house.
      4 For every house is built by somebody, but He Who built all things is God.
      .. If you read the Greek the word used means to make manufacture kjv and some others translate if appoint which really seems misleading
      John 5:26 For just as the Father has life in Himself, so has He also given it to the Son to have life in himself
      ... there is another verse just like john 5:26 repeating how Jesus has life from the Father I can't think of it now but I'll share if I find it
      John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
      ... you always hear about Jesus being at the right hand of the Father at his throne but you never hear about the Holy ghost being there to or Holy Spirit but the Father is the Holy One of Israel he is a Spirit you never read about Holy Ghost being at the throne of God it's always Jesus and Father the Father is spirit though the 1 John 5 verse has been shown to be fake and bible confirms that it's in error
      Jeremiah 8:8How can you say, ‘We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us’? Look, the false pen of the scribe certainly works falsehood.

    • @EternalLifeNews
      @EternalLifeNews 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you believe 1 John 5:7 to be fake then how can you trust any of the Bible?

    • @rod8989
      @rod8989 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      1 john 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
      .. there isn't any manuscripts before the 1600's on this verse and the word Ghost is simply Spirit it's the same greek word rendered spirit everytime it's used except when translators decided to put ghost something to ponder? But to answer your question there I definitely trust the bible there is too much in there to forge the message we are told to study it in Timothy basically don't just simply read it and take everything at face value we don't know Greek or Hebrew and Gods word is true and every man a liar so do I think the bible is intentionally translated wrong by no means there are honest translators but human translators who can unintentionally error and in the case of this verse its possible someone from Vatican could of slipped this in from manuscript evidence but it's up to us to look into the matter in Isaiah line upon line precept upon precept is a correct way to study languages we don't know we have a strongs concordance we can use and see every use of a word to help us learn the language and anyways this verse doesn't prove a trinity anyways it's a book 1 john written after everything Jesus did when he saved the world and the comforter came the Spirit of truth and people became Holy Spirit filled and people have died since than
      1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters
      3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
      ... sounds like dead(in this world/alive in Christ) Holy Spirit filled believers will be judging in heaven..
      You even read about the 12 gates on the new Jerusalem kingdom who do you think is going to be bearing witness of the people trying to get in?
      Anyways I love listening to all study's even ones I feel can be wrong because you search scriptures after to see if it's TRUE and even groups you know are false do have some doctrine truth that other groups are teaching and frankly the average person doesn't want to look into. I enjoy discussing scripture with people including you

  • @mr.johnson460
    @mr.johnson460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great explanation! But, the earth doesn't move. Not anywhere, in scripture.

    • @eswn1816
      @eswn1816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Negative inference fallacy... The Bible not saying something does not prove the truth of the opposite.
      Jesus didn't tell me not to become a cocaine addict, so it's ok?
      Silly argument.

    • @mr.johnson460
      @mr.johnson460 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eswn1816 He also didn't tell you to post any comments here.

    • @eswn1816
      @eswn1816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mr.johnson460
      Ha ha... You are making my point! 🙏

  • @paulcastillo953
    @paulcastillo953 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would much prefer the questions where is racism came from as well as greed , by humans

  • @Johnny-wr1wp
    @Johnny-wr1wp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very fascinating topics! A great listen

  • @philipbuckley759
    @philipbuckley759 ปีที่แล้ว

    another thing about this preadamic population...how does the Bible begin, on day one...etc....

  • @Rkatek
    @Rkatek 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Paul says he wouldn't know what sin was if it werent for the law and commandments. Yea, we need to know what not to do as SIN is the transgression of Gods law

  • @hsumsil52
    @hsumsil52 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such deep knowledge with easy explanation...thank you so much...

  • @Eph.6_10-20
    @Eph.6_10-20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you SO much for your upload! I really enjoyed this. I’m in agreement with you and your explanations were fantastic and so easy to understand. Praise and Glory to God Almighty for bringing me by chance to this channel. Thank you Lord, I’m very grateful for this. Xx✝️

  • @711yada
    @711yada 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent analysis.

  • @gracegraham3147
    @gracegraham3147 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Sun didn't devour the moon, he did explain this. 🙂

  • @TheRgordon16
    @TheRgordon16 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "They" did not fail. Adam failed. Adam was given the command concerning the tree; not his wife.

    • @summertime8879
      @summertime8879 ปีที่แล้ว

      FACTS

    • @henrya.escobar9716
      @henrya.escobar9716 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Adam definitely told Eve about God’s command, obviously she knew about it according to her conversation with the serpent.

    • @cathybarron2204
      @cathybarron2204 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "& God called THEIR NAME ADAM."

    • @henrya.escobar9716
      @henrya.escobar9716 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you’re right, then Jesus died to redeem men only and not women. All women are saved and holly.

    • @MarkMcKay73
      @MarkMcKay73 ปีที่แล้ว

      “…and the two shall become one flesh, cleaving one to another…”. Adam had the initial charge, authority, and responsibility. So to him fell the judgement. But Eve was “one” with him, and under his authority. She bears the same judgement…and some other consequences as well. As an interesting thought experiment, consider what would have happened differently if Adam refused to eat after Eve ate. The bottom line, we are all sinners that require Redemption. Male or female.

  • @sirius212ify
    @sirius212ify 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The reason I'm inclined to believe in a pre-Adamite races is simple. The earth is a big ball of rock covered with water in the middle of nowhere when Genesis opens. Why would God make that?

    • @paulsevers7740
      @paulsevers7740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      because He chose to, and He is WAY beyond your pathetic powers of reasoning to understand!

  • @michaelmulvey247
    @michaelmulvey247 ปีที่แล้ว

    I almost change the channel because I miss identified you and thought you were Rick Warren, you have to admit...THERE JUST MIGHT BE A BIT OF A FAMILY RESEMBLANÇE GOIN ON"

  • @grace2u776
    @grace2u776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen some Bible versions translate was to became which I believe is the more correct translation and gives a better sense of the Earth became formless and void....

  • @jpaul1599
    @jpaul1599 ปีที่แล้ว

    Believers know that the Word of God is truth, inerrant and that God does not lie.
    Once we accept the above, the following truths and the very first prophetic declaration of Genesis 1:2 about "the end of the first Earth at the end of time" are not questionable.
    Genesis 1:1 > In "the Beginning" God created the heaven and the earth.
    Genesis 1:2 > [End] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
    Isaiah 46:9-10 > ... I am God, and there is none like me, "Declaring the End from the Beginning", and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
    2 Peter 3:10 > ... and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, "the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
    Revelation 21:1 > ... and the "First Earth" were passed away;
    Based on all of the above, If Scripture is interpreted correctly and honestly then there is absolutely no scope for anyone to use their imagination to propound the false narrative of a pre-Adamic race or civilization or any history before Day 1 of the 6 day creation week.
    Besides, to accept the preAdamic race etc would require believers to then think
    that not only did Lucifer (Satan, Devil ) outwit God by rebelling in Heaven leading to the first destruction of creation, he again outwit God by deceiving Eve in the garden etc.
    God created all beings (angels, man etc) with the foreknowledge that Lucifer would rebel (out of pride and envy), that Eve would be deceived through unbelief in HIS word (but belief in word of the serpent) and that would require HIS own intervention as the atonement to redeem " believers" with whom HE will dwell forever on the New Earth after the thousand year reign of Christ from Jerusalem.
    God made provision for redemption even before HE created any thing (before the foundation of the world) and that's why Scripture states in 1 Peter 1:18-21 > Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, ... But with the precious blood of Christ, ... Who verily was "foreordained before the foundation of the world", but was manifest in these last times for you, Who (referring to believers) by Him do believe in God, that raised Him up from the dead, and gave Him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
    There is a reason why an omniscient God's created beings are given a free will - who of their own violation , based on the Word of God, can choose to believe in HIM or not believe, and to continue in that faith or walk away from faith.
    HE did not create preprogrammed robots unlike man (under Luciferian influence ) who now seek to merge man with machine and thus create robotic slaves who will only do the will of the master (Luci.... ).
    Shalom
    P.S. its sad that wise and well versed Bible believing people (e.g. preachers who have been influenced by theories emanating from some theological institutions which have formulated the " gap theory" to try and corrupt the inerrant Word of God) give credence to fables & myths or some preAdamic civilization etc which would only be possible if God was caught unawares by DNA modifications by fallen celestial beings and therefore God destroying the previous creation and somehow God then created Man on Earth but somehow celestial beings again proceeded to do something similar in the days of Enoch forcing God to destroy all flesh (saving just the 8 souls and those numbered creatures on the Ark) through the universal flood in the days of Noah.
    The truth scripturally is that God in HIS omniscience foreordained redemption through Jesus Christ before HE created the first Earth and Man. All other interpretations are just man's imagination working fantasies.
    There is no way man can put a date (through radiometric or other methods etc) about age of rocks, strata etc that preceded the universal flood in the days of Noah. The only timeline is based on the genealogy from Adam onwards ... approx 5948 years according to the Dead Sea Scrolls - watch Ken Johnson on TH-cam - th-cam.com/users/live4hh_VTFWLEs?feature=share
    The truth is Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 are the bookends of history of the world that HE created. Genesis 1:3 onwards is HIS-STORY.
    Accept it in totality and don't cherry pick to create your own version of HIS-STORY.

  • @williamcritchley
    @williamcritchley ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did Dr Stuart Graham come from?

  • @demetrisswilliams9870
    @demetrisswilliams9870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Replenish do not mean refill but it mean to fill this is Hebrew interpretation

  • @markglidewell5468
    @markglidewell5468 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm pretty sure the people of Tyre outlasted the babylonians. King nebecudnezzer gave up and went home. It was Alexander the Great that finally conquered Tyre.

    • @eswn1816
      @eswn1816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct 💯... and it wasn't easy as Alexander had his army build a causeway to the fortified island!

  • @Rkatek
    @Rkatek 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isnt Genesis just the Hebrew version of the Sumerian creation story?

  • @michaelszczys8316
    @michaelszczys8316 ปีที่แล้ว

    " Somewhere in time was Genesis 1 "
    Somewhere in timeless eternity was Genesis 1 which was the beginning of
    ' time '.
    Before Genesis 1 there was just the spirit realm.
    God may have had it all created in His mind, and created other spirit beings to witness, but Genesis 1 is where it was all set into motion, into real material matter.
    Before that there wasn't a single hydrogen atom, not a ' place ' to put the atom, not the ' laws and principals ' by which the hydrogen atom could exist.
    God put it all into motion, into real matter, in the order He chose. That is how the course of the earth traveling around the sun could exist before the sun was even ' created ' into real matter.

  • @anipaul9166
    @anipaul9166 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now the Annunaki Story sounds like the Pre Adamite story, gods came & missed with half human half animals. They lived for thousands of years before a flood came to destroy the Earth

  • @azergrinder
    @azergrinder 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So I'm a shepherds chapel student and I've known about this for a long time. So i`m just trying to the correct and chronological order of events. How we're the Angels here on Earth and and up in heaven with god at the same time? The only way it makes sense to me is if both Dimensions ran simultaneously. IS OURAUNOS USED IN 2ND PETER? SO IT CAN MEAN BOTH HEAVEN AND JUST PLAIN OLD SKY? SOMEBODY HELP ME WITH THIS PLEASE.

    • @aaroneaston4700
      @aaroneaston4700 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try Finis J. Dake materials! Excellent!!

    • @ScenekidzrockXD
      @ScenekidzrockXD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Satan and a third of the Angel's fell to earth before God made Adam

  • @lumartin1838
    @lumartin1838 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought Adam committed the original sin and because of it was casr out of the garden and all inhabitants of the world from then on were affected.Women have pain in childbirth,men have to sweat to earn bread etc.And we all live to be only 100yrs or younger. Could there have been other "beings" in the first earth age, different than humans?

    • @lxfj2128
      @lxfj2128 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lu Martin he did for modern humanity for humans pre Adamite civilisation we’re celestial beings (spiritual)

    • @ScenekidzrockXD
      @ScenekidzrockXD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Satan and one third of the Angel's. Were before God created Adam

  • @Romeo7414GD
    @Romeo7414GD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE IT 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @surferdue60
    @surferdue60 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many Christians are so ignorant about this very critical teaching! If you don’t understand that sin entered into Gods creation when Lucifer, now Satan and his fallen angels tried to overthrow God (Revelation 12). Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 the earth became “void “ tohu. What made it void, Lucifer rebelled! Thats why we are here on earth today! It’s a testing period, do you love God or Satan?

  • @grahamflowers
    @grahamflowers ปีที่แล้ว

    God created everything in reverse from the end to the beginning then he turned on the clock regards Graham Flowers

  • @fgbowen
    @fgbowen 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    49:20 (?) - yes, I figured you would come to this.. sin was in Satan. Yes.
    Peter J. Peters has some good words on Gen. 1 & 2. You may be interested.
    I am not in agreement with his full belief about Genesis 6, but he does have excellent words concerning Gen. 1 e 2. (Regarding the subject of Pre-Adamic man)
    If I can find the link later, I'll post it here.

    • @grgustafson3777
      @grgustafson3777 ปีที่แล้ว

      15th verse of 28th chapter of Ezekiel says the king of Tyre was created perfect, without fault or blame. Most scholars agree this was Lucifer because in verse 14, he is declared a cherubim. Cherubs do not morph into mortal men. Humans are a different creation, much like cats and dogs are both animals, but one will never become the other.

  • @bosse641
    @bosse641 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Seems like that congregation has a knowledgeable and serious pastor. Good for them.
    Many are not so lucky. ....a lot of foolishness out there.

    • @woozyrocketman1784
      @woozyrocketman1784 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      not short of a feed, that's for sure.

    • @marilynfisher6350
      @marilynfisher6350 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      John Grytbakk We need solid teachings like this in all churches. There is a lot of foolishness going on and zero teaching. You are on point.

    • @castanheiro6170
      @castanheiro6170 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of foolishness right here that you think is so special! Just another man trying to twist God's revelation and make it walk with Lucifer's distorted evolution theory! I'm not impressed at all! Just very sad!

    • @Dazzwidd
      @Dazzwidd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@castanheiro6170 so you deny sooo many facts in so many scriptures just because you are persuaded a certain way already.
      With willing ignorance comes a price

  • @danielpenn1734
    @danielpenn1734 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Genesis 6 tells you about it also

  • @jimoyler1780
    @jimoyler1780 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Volume??????

  • @isaacnkosi548
    @isaacnkosi548 ปีที่แล้ว

    being in eden is a metaphor for living a voluptuous life..this is not talking about the literal eden where Adam and eve were placed by God..

  • @Light777-fs6rx
    @Light777-fs6rx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why are people doing this? because of a kings' list? maybe the kings' list is wrong?

  • @QuantumG432
    @QuantumG432 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even this guy has no idea where sin came from. Its amazing to me how very few people actually know the truth.

    • @jafojafo5412
      @jafojafo5412 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You make a comment … but offer no alternative … such a brilliant statement … 🙄

  • @fredrickhollenbeck1036
    @fredrickhollenbeck1036 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Im blessed to have listen to this Sermon

  • @fgbowen
    @fgbowen 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    49:56 - "there's no evidence that he did anyway " - yes, and I would argue why does there Have to be?? Is it really our business right now?? no. But we Are asked to say and do things which build others up. Yes I know Adam's dead, but Adam really carries a big weight where man is concerned. Don't draw conclusions where there is no evidence to support those conclusions. Saying things which denigrate leaves the door open to all kinds of assumption and often then slander.
    I'm not meaning to be too overly harsh there, but... there it is.

  • @tlezzy8252
    @tlezzy8252 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done

  • @markglidewell5468
    @markglidewell5468 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
    13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
    14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
    15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
    16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

  • @gerrald5272
    @gerrald5272 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FYI. Science is not nonsense.

    • @tonyfrangos99
      @tonyfrangos99 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +gerrald your right , it's mostly lies.

    • @ZekeMan62
      @ZekeMan62 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonyfrangos99
      Yep.

  • @mtuase
    @mtuase 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    08:55 because the light was made în verse 5 after the heaven and earth. Thats why was dark!! And another thing, how do you explain Ex. 20:11For în SIX DAYS the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and ALL THAT IS IN THEM, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.. I do not see a place where you place someone else before the SIX DAYS. The Bible is clear about the topic, we dont gain anythnig by making it complicated. BTW 15:30 Paul answers your question on how the sin enterd the world "Wherefore, as by one man (ADAM not others before him) sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" (Romans 5:12 KJV). PLEASE read the ENTIRE BIBLE, not just fragmets.

    • @joshperry3494
      @joshperry3494 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gabi T.
      Science and archeology has discoveries that require we re evaluate how we understand creation and the worlds
      How do we explain Ex 20:11?
      We explain it in harmony with verses that reveal other world(s) and Gods ability to make this dispensation of earth void and make new heavens and earth
      How do you explain the prophecy of destruction and renovation of this world into a new world
      And deny the possibility of previous renovations and that this could be a renovation
      has it occurred to you that we might have existed before this life
      That this physical body doesn’t have the ability to recollect our previous existences
      That would explain how Christ is a sin of man and had to learn about His divinity in The Father
      Christ was born without ability or recollection of eternity just as we were
      So might we have existed before we became men on this renovated earth world
      The Bible says we are prisoners here
      That suggests we were transgressors that were sentenced here to self discover our spirit and die

    • @JohnPalmer
      @JohnPalmer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gabi, when we talk about time, are we talking about the same linear and 4th dimensional principles of time we have come to understand in our limited understanding of our universe (in 3 dimensions) or are you talking about the possibly infinite time (to us) that Einstein talks about when one travels near the speed of light? God may have spoken these things into existence over a trillion years but if he wished to do such a thing slower, or faster than the speed of light then time as we know it is (in our perspective) not relative to the amount of time God took.
      I hope that makes sense to you. ;)

    • @konawolv
      @konawolv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 6 days, as we understand them, were clearly allegorical. The sun and the moon and the stars (which were created in order track time and give signs, etc) werent even created until the 4th "day". Our method of tracking time wasnt created until the 4th day.
      Yes, Paul says that through one man sin entered the world. And Paul was right. But, does that mean that Adam was the first sinner? no. Adam was given dominion over the garden. He was charged with keeping it. He was the responsible party. Sin ultimately came through him because he failed at his job of protector. He had the power to rebuke and say no and report back to God. But, instead he fell too.
      Its like a CEO being blamed for the failures of a company because it was under their rule. Maybe they werent the ones whom originally permeated the mistake, but because they didnt contain it and correct it, the company fails and its put on the CEO. Adam in this case, was the CEO of the Garden.
      The next thing is it states in scripture that God changes the earth like we change garments on our beds. Its possible that God made and recreated the world many times over. Clearly there was a beginning. Genesis 1:1. But, between genesis 1:1 and genesis 1:2 could be billions of years of history which literally means nothing to us.

    • @mariafernandes9227
      @mariafernandes9227 ปีที่แล้ว

      A day with the Lord is a thousand years

  • @philipbuckley759
    @philipbuckley759 ปีที่แล้ว

    the idea that the and, in Genesis indicates time, er.....dont think so...

  • @sidklem6645
    @sidklem6645 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is this guy's self control, if you know what I mean.

  • @fgbowen
    @fgbowen 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    47:17 - in agreement for the most part... 90%, maybe more. And so thankful for your work.
    I believe though that for the believer "Where sin increased, Grace increased all the more" (or Super Abounds). This is not the same as licensiouness (sp?) - it is not saying "sin that Grace may increase".
    Jesus is an Overpayment for sin in the same way that the sun is an over-provision for the earth - Which is not saying salvation is for the earth without belief - I am not saying that - The Bible does not reflect that; I am not saying that, but only that Jesus was a Super-Abounding gift of Grace.
    ***
    I realize I am not even half way through your lesson - So you may say some things which clear-up a few misconceptions on my part - but generally speaking, your work and teaching here is excellent- thank you so much.
    I do believe it is important and dynamic to remember that Adam was the "first man" and JC was the "last man". I am not saying there were no pre-adamic men, and I do not believe the Heavenly Father means that by calling Adam the "first man" - I am not really drawing any huge black and white lines... I'm simply stating the words "first" and "last". This has to do with God choosing to tell us of Adam (And more importantly Jesus) regarding sin (or no sin in Christ).
    "Sin is not taken into account where there is no law" (I think I said that backwards, but you get my point). God's directive about the Tree... was a law which Adam and Eve broke. Before that... there was no "law" per-say (given to man)-(I'm talking about sin in man, not in celestial beings such as our enemy the devil where evil was "found"). Therefore, pre-adamic man could (as you say [thus far]) easily been very sinful - just as they clearly were before the flood.
    My gut tells me though that you may be going to say that celestial beings were clearly at work screwing things up before the time of Adam (pre-Adamic), etc. And... I would be in complete agreement.

  • @BrentLeVasseur
    @BrentLeVasseur 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok and continuing on this trajectory of thought, we might assume that since in Genesis 3 God curses the serpent to slither on it’s belly, that at a previous point in time, it might have walked like a human. So based on that, we could then speculate that maybe that pre-Adam world was populated by a sentient, bipedal, Reptilian race that was led by Lucifer. That would make for a great sci-fi novel or movie. It’s Land of the Lost, with the Sleestack and dinosaurs with Lucifer as king of that world. 😂

  • @gregdanielson9086
    @gregdanielson9086 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To understand the pre-Adamic Age one must first realize God did not create Lucifer with the foreknowledge he would sin and rebel. To understand that leads us to know what grace really is, and what it is not, which the church collectively has redefined to mean what it is not. We need to understand grace is not His unmerited favor upon mankind, that He did what He didn't have to do; that's not grace, for He had to do what He did because of Original Sin. Or are we to think He would allow Satan to usurp authority over His creation? I think not! If anyone would like to understand the absolute truth concerning this topic of grace, which puts in proper perspective the pre-Adamic Age, then just post-reply, and I will gladly share. Also know, God is: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and these Three are one, Amen. In Christ, Greg.

    • @andreshipp1134
      @andreshipp1134 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why he didn't? God knows everything!! If he didn't then it a problem!!

    • @Dazzwidd
      @Dazzwidd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is the Alpha and the Omega.
      He knew full and well what was going to happen, however he did not make it happen. That was just the way it went with free will being bestowed upon his creations. However knowing these things were going to happen he had it worked out how he was going to cause it to play out such that all would remain harmonious to all the laws and truths he put in place.
      Just a final thought:
      Proverbs 3:19-20 "The LORD by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.
      By his knowledge the depths are broken up, and the clouds drop down the dew"

    • @christincommon5496
      @christincommon5496 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Greg Danielson,
      What is the information you have about grace that you wanted to share?
      Grace has definitely been completely misunderstood by our modern teachers.

    • @gregdanielson9086
      @gregdanielson9086 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christincommon5496: Grace is Jesus Christ's testimony (life, death, burial, resurrection, and ascensions). His testimony is to strengthen us in our inner man/woman to walk after and keep the Ten Commandments (TC), which we do by the power of the Holy Spirit. How we receive the Holy Spirit is when we confess and repent of our sins, with godly sorrow, upon hearing and believing in His testimony.
      The issue with most of the church today is that many have come to be persuaded into thinking we are no longer under the law (TC), but under grace as defined and taught by them, which leads many to assume the blood of Christ represents His righteousness for us, even while they continue to sin (to transgress His Law; 1 Jn. 3:4).
      Nowhere in Scripture does it teach that His blood represents us; rather it presents us, which means there is a labor (Heb. 4:11) we must do after we confess and repent of our sins...to walk after and keep His Law, which He expects all that names His name to do because of His testimony, for He knows what His Spirit can do in each of us that believe in Him.
      Modern Christian theology removes that expectation, which leads many to presume their salvation. It leads them to think they are something they are not...rapture ready. Thus, because the church collectively has come to the full (a mindset) to believe another gospel, which is not another, God in His mercy is going to pour out His Spirit once again called the Latter Rain. The Latter Rain will be His time of correction to the church that has forsaken Him by believing another gospel, and to the secular world. And all that come to repentance shall be forgiven and cleansed of their past sins and empowered by the Holy Spirit. This time of the Latter Rain is coming soon!

  • @philipbuckley759
    @philipbuckley759 ปีที่แล้ว

    the Hebrew is such as the past or future tense of the verb could be correct, depending on context...then if there were a pre adamic race, and they died, then there would be death, before the fall....and the Biblical account, of the fall would be false...

  • @jersmith1486
    @jersmith1486 ปีที่แล้ว

    the wages of sin is death. no sin, no death. no Adamic transgression, no sin.

  • @aaroneaston4700
    @aaroneaston4700 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Didn't get to watch it all, but found it very good. The young earth folks attempt to build a 'straw man' claiming all 'gap' teaching is agreement with evolution. Obviously they have not studied at all the subject here. Thanks

  • @richarddumbrill
    @richarddumbrill ปีที่แล้ว

    Tyre is not in Israel, it is on the South coast of Lebanon. You should read a bit...

  • @Josieb4008
    @Josieb4008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How could he miss an ENTIRE generation of mankind that was created before Adam and Eve in CHAPTER ONE! They made in the Gods image and likeness!

  • @GODSPEAKS898
    @GODSPEAKS898 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The concept of a pre-Adamic race is the idea that God created a race of humans who lived on the Earth before He created Adam, the first man God created. This false hypothesis has been promoted by various scholars at various times throughout history. Roman Emperor Julian the Apostate (circa A.D. 331-363) and Calvinist theologian Isaac de La Peyrère (1596-1676) are two notable examples.
    We will look at two popular facets of the Preadamite Hypothesis: the hypothesis as it was proposed by Isaac de La Peyrère and the form which it takes in the “Gap Theory” (also known as the Ruin-Reconstruction interpretation). According to La Peyrère, God created the Gentiles (This is false) on the sixth day when He said, “Let us make man in our image” (Genesis 1:26). He did not create the Jews until after the seventh day, His day of rest. At some point after the seventh day, God created Adam, the father of the Jews (Actually, Adam was the Father of all mankind).
    La Peyrère cited Scripture to support his hypothesis. Cain’s fear of being lynched, his marriage to an unknown woman and the fact that he founded a city (Genesis 4:14-17) are all interpreted as evidence that another race of men coexisted with Adam and his family.
    La Peyrère subsequently reinterpreted other passages of Scripture in light of his peculiar understanding of the Genesis account. Consider a very familiar passage, Romans 5:12-14: “Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned-for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.”
    This passage is traditionally interpreted as meaning that death began with Adam’s sin and reigned unchecked among men (even among those who haven’t actually eaten the forbidden fruit, those who have sinned but not “in the likeness of the offense of Adam”) until the Law was given to Moses. La Peyrère interpreted this passage another way. According to La Peyrère, the pre-Adamic Gentiles sinned against God, but in a manner less egregious than Adam (which is why Adam’s sin brought death while theirs didn’t). They merely sinned against God’s moral will, while Adam sinned against His Law. Adam disobeyed God’s prohibition by eating the forbidden fruit. He broke what La Peyrère called the Law of Paradise. Thus, according to La Peyrère, the pre-Adamic Gentiles were those who “had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam.”
    By now it’s obvious how misinterpreting one or two passages of Scripture can lead to all kinds of warped perceptions. The Scriptural problems with La Peyrère’s interpretations are numerous.
    First, Adam is called the “first man” (1 Corinthians 15:45). This is inconsistent with the idea that God created men before Adam. Second, according to La Peyrère, the Gentiles were to live outside of the Garden of Eden while Adam enjoyed paradise (a privilege which came with the responsibility of obeying the Law of Paradise-not eating the forbidden fruit). Genesis 2:5-8, however, says quite plainly that before God created “the man whom He had formed,” the very same man which He placed in the garden, there were no men upon the earth to cultivate the ground. Third, God created Eve for Adam because he was alone, there was no one else like him around (“It is not good for the man to be alone… but for Adam there was not found a helper suitable for him” Genesis 2:18, 20). Fourth, Adam named his wife “Eve” “because she was the mother of all the living” (Genesis 3:20). The list goes on, but these passages should suffice to refute La Peyrère’s misinterpretation.
    As for Cain’s fear of being lynched, his marriage to an unknown woman and the fact that he founded a city (Genesis 4:14-17), Adam was almost 130 years old by the time that Cain killed Abel (Adam had Seth, his next son after Abel’s death, when he was about 130 years old; Genesis 4:25; 5:3). And we know that Adam had sons and daughters (Genesis 5:3). At 130 he could have had grandkids and great-grandkids by the time that Cain killed Abel. Cain had plenty of family members to be afraid of after killing his brother.
    Cain apparently married a family member (a necessity back then) at some point before Abel’s murder. It seems odd to us today, but incest wasn’t outlawed by God until the Law of Moses. It may have been around that time that generations of degenerative genetic mutations began to take a toll on our DNA. God outlawed incest for our protection. It became (and remains) dangerous for close relatives to procreate because of shared genetic defects which become expressed in their children causing severe deformities and other problems.
    As for Cain founding a city, if he lived to be the average age back then, he probably lived to be about 900 years old. By the time he died, his family would have been a small city. If Cain had a child at the age of 30, and his child had a child at the age of 30 and so on, Cain could have produced 30 generations by the time he died (30 generations times 30 years each equals 900 years).
    The Ruin-Reconstruction interpretation takes a somewhat different approach to the pre-Adamic race theory. According to the Gap Theory, an unspecified amount of time passed between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2, during which God created a pre-Adamic race of men who lived upon the earth until God destroyed them in judgment. Other extinct creatures, like the dinosaurs, are said to have also lived during this time. Afterwards, the theory goes, God remodeled the earth in six days. He created Adam on the sixth day, and the rest is history. Some say that Satan’s fall occurred at some point during the ambiguous gap.
    A “mistranslation” has contributed to the case for this misinterpretation. In the King James Version of the Bible, God says to Adam, “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.” Proponents of the Gap Theory emphasize the word “replenish.” They interpret the text as saying that Adam and Eve were to refill the Earth. They were to fill it again. The problem with this view is that, regardless of what it says in English translations, the Hebrew word is mâlê’, and it simply means “to fill” or “to be full.” Moreover, the English translators of the King James Version knew the word means “to fill.” They chose “replenish” because, in 17th-century Elizabethan English, “replenish” meant “to fill” (similar to how in modern English the word “replete” doesn’t mean to “abound again,” it simply means “abundant” or “abounding”). Language is not static, but dynamic. Words change meaning over time. Today “replenish” means “to fill again.” It didn’t mean the same thing in 17th century England. Nearly all modern translations translate mâlê’ as simply “fill” in the passage in question (Genesis 1:28).
    Proponents of the Gap Theory respond by pointing out that God said to Noah after the flood, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill [mâlê’] the earth” (Genesis 9:1). It is evident that Noah was meant to refill the earth after the flood. Can’t we then interpret the same command to Adam to mean the same thing-that Adam was to repopulate the earth after God’s judgment? The fact is that, regardless what the condition of the planet was before Noah’s flood, God didn’t tell Noah to “refill” the Earth. He simply said to fill it. God chose the words He chose and no others. If He said “refill,” that would have been something, but since He just said “fill,” that argument falls flat.
    The real problem with the Gap Theory is that it places human mortality (pre-Adamic human mortality) before Adam’s sin. The Bible is quite clear that death entered in through Adam’s sin. “For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive” (1 Corinthians 15:21-22). Regardless of whether or not we believe in animal mortality before sin, the Bible is quite explicit about human mortality before Adam’s sin. There wasn’t any. To deny this is to deny a central Christian doctrine.

  • @fgbowen
    @fgbowen 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    49:50 - I'm not 100 on that.
    This is a wholly personal thing for God our Father. And Adam is not Satan, if you will. And Adam faced (was given) a consequence. There is a sense in which I believe you rush to judgement a bit regarding Adam here. Maybe not, but we know what we know, and we don't know what we don't know.

    • @austinthompson2237
      @austinthompson2237 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think he said adam was crappy satan but yes I do believe adam and eve where still following Yahweh there children where just rebellious and went there own ways

  • @austint316835
    @austint316835 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent Presentation, many thanks for sharing! Hero's still left in the world wanting everyone to have the tools & knowledge of things that actually matter 😊🎉😇

  • @danielpenn1734
    @danielpenn1734 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The eden is in heaven at the time

  • @Landis_Grant
    @Landis_Grant ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This speaker hasn’t missed many meals.

  • @donovanwint-im2ql
    @donovanwint-im2ql ปีที่แล้ว

    What of, simply; and on the sixth day, GOD Created Man, and said it was very good " perfect ".
    Then after time, GOD formed/Made firstly Eth Adam and then Eve his partner and put them in the Garden to tend it, but with one caveat, do not eat fruit from a special tree,
    After time, Eve after being challenged by Lucifer did eat and gave to Adam and he also ate; after scolding Eve about disobeying GOD he himself rebelled against and disobeyed GOD'S command, first act of disobedience and rebellion against God by Humankind.
    All accomplished in the Garden of Eden, by people formed and made by GOD HIMSELF,
    TO COMPLETE HIS gift for mankind the ability of exercising the GIFT OF FREEWILL in all the AREAS of their lives.
    Lucifer was not a mistake made by GOD, Lucifer is an integral part/component of GOD'S ACT of giving Humanity the Gift of FREEWILL,
    Among the qualities that puts Humanity above the Angels.
    Good teaching, way different and closer to the reality than most of too many. Much Blessings.

  • @otisarmyalso
    @otisarmyalso 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gen1&Gen2 are not same failure2c is chaos

  • @BigBearHuskyMusher
    @BigBearHuskyMusher 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent. Solid teaching

  • @austinthompson2237
    @austinthompson2237 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the bible never said adam stoped walking with Yahweh how on earth did Abel learn how to follow Yahweh commandments in the first place for all we know adam sons and daughters could have been rebellious except for the onces that Yahweh Word says walked in His ways

    • @austinthompson2237
      @austinthompson2237 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and thats the same for eve they probably where still following God

    • @brigittepatterson2294
      @brigittepatterson2294 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eve gave the Lord credit for helping her birth another son never say a mothers influence is not important it might be the only influence a child or grandchild may have in the face of the silent man

  • @stevenanderson9660
    @stevenanderson9660 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can’t have death before sin. Death is the result of sin. There was no death on the earth before Adam and Eve.

  • @jaredyoung5353
    @jaredyoung5353 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not a YEC but I'm a little disappointed w this presitation. Not bad. Looking for more

    • @castanheiro6170
      @castanheiro6170 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am a YEC and I am also tremendously disappointed with this. His premise is all wrong and therefor his feeble attempts to rectify millions of years with 6000 years doesn't work. "Let God be true and every man a liar"!

  • @cressada
    @cressada 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank god for you brother.you have the guts to tell the truth.may god bless you.!