How To Make An Urn For Ashes | Dovetailed Urn Box
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- How to make an urn for ashes. Watch as Rob Cosman makes and urn for ashes for a woodworker. Rob walks you through his urn design process. Cherry dovetailed urn box
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Thanks for doing such a beautiful job Rob. I donate crematory urns to soldiers interred at the Veterans Cemetery at Fort Bragg, NC. It's a very rewarding endeavor for me. As a retired soldier, I believe that a soldier should never be buried in a plastic box or bag.
Wow that is so awesome. Keep up the good work. You should send us some pics of your urns and we will post them to our customer gallery page
I built an urn for my father-in-law (my woodworking mentor) about 15 years ago using his favorite wood, Brazilian Cherry. Using the same design, I built one for my father (who loved sailing) about 10 years ago using teak. Now I am working on one for my mother, who recently died at age 95, from American chestnut from wood from a barn from her childhood farm. Beautiful wood, although a bit rustic due to nail holes and worm holes. This is taking some time, as I am learning to use hand tools only. I can no longer trust my balance to use power tools. This will be my first attempt at hand cut dovetails, so I am watching your videos with great interest.
You can do it. Send us a pic of your final product
We were just talking about this in a woodworking group on Facebook about a week ago.
It may sound Macabre, but I'm really considering making my own urn, and displaying it in the house. I think that by seeing it, I might start living my life a little better.
Just please, no one tell my therapist. She'll probably have me admitted into the psyche ward lol
I wont tell if you don’t!!!!
I'm a novice woodworker getting a late start of it in life. I was asked by my wife's family if I would make an urn for my late father-in-law. I was honored and a bit horrified at the same time, as I feared making something less than nice. I struggled with design and style until I came across this video. I based my build off your design using white oak and CNC carving his name and dates on the front and back. Took me a couple of weekends to complete. The family is supper happy with the end result. The urn will be placed in a tomb in Louisiana and while it probably will not be seen again, The family knows that he's buried in something nice. Thanks for the inspiration.
I've been meaning to build an appropriate resting place for my mother's ashes. I think this will be the first project for the dove tail saw I bought from you. Thank you and Merry Christmas.
That's a great idea! Send us a pic when you are done we will post it to our customer gallery
Patrick, Ditto although l have the urn box made, just got the lid to do, anyway good luck
Fantastic Work done by a Master, who honors all Veteran's and woodworkers
A beautiful tribute to a loved one.
I am so glad you like it
A very appropriate design to honor the loved one.
Thanks for the nice comment
Just wanted to say thanx for sharing ur wood working skills , Im fairly new to wood working n am really liking it , I have learned a enormous amount of tips n tricks from u. I also am just finding out about ur work u guys do with veterans n wanted to say thanx, Im not a veteran myself but have always felt they deserve so much more for their time n sacrafice. THANX AGAIN !!!!
I've been asked more than once to make an urn. I always feel hugely honoured to do so.
I agree
Great video. Just a piece of morbid information I learned doing my first urn, allow 1 cubic inch per pound. If the occupant weighed 200lbs, allow a minimum of 200 cubic inches, but I suggest you add another 10-20% for buffer.
This was the first time I viewed one of your vids, I’m now a subscriber.
Well Done Rob. Though so personal for the family involved, nice of you to share the project.
Thanks for commenting
Great monument and resting place for a woodworker.
thanks Duke
Rob, that is a very nice piece, for what it is. I've thought about it over the years and I plan on making a pair of these for my wife and me...hopefully not needed for many years to come. I have the idea of making them a bit oversized, whereas the extra material would enable forming a fairly large dovetail so that the two boxes would interlock. I'm still working on the design, but that's my (crazy) thinking. My kids say that I'm breathing in either too much sawdust or CA glue fumes. 😉
Thanks Rob. As always, you do excellent work. I built a box for my mothers ashes and since have had several friends ask for me to make them one for their loved ones. For my mother's, I wrote inside with a sharpie before spraying in some lacquer. I have offered for my friends to write inside of theirs but no one else has wanted to do that. I have always used box/finger joints as I like to round the edges a good bit. I have never tried to round dovetails but I can't imagine that it looks right. There is a guy in Jacksonville, FL that makes these for the vets. A number of vets pass away with no family or money and are being left in the plastic / cardboard box that their ashes come in.
Hi Don...I had a guy who does a similar service for vets comment here
Beautifully done Rob. Thank you
Thanks for watching and commenting
Thanks for this, Rob. I need to build one for my dog that passed away recently. He was part of our family for fifteen years. This will be perfect for him.
I hate to hear about dogs passing. I love dogs. I hope this video helps your build
Really beautiful job
Very nice build. Glad I found it.
We Are glad you found us too!
I have made several of those for our pets over the years. I have 2 that are 8-sided (I had just purchased a sled with a protractor on it) with book-matched / slip-matched tops / bottoms veneered with burl. You did a beautiful job especially since the form was sort of dictated by the container. And what a nice thing to do for a widow of a woodworker! Class Act every time Rob! Love you and your content!
You and I met in Lexington, KY at the Woodcraft Store and I took your hand plane / dovetail class. Truly enjoyed my time there with you and all the guys at the store!
Thanks for coming to my dovetail class. I really like the KY Woodcraft store. Hopefully They will ssk me back someday and we can meet up again
Truly quality work.
I was asked to make an urn last month for my wifes uncle. Used walnut and white oak accents with his name lazer engraved on the top. The cousins were pleased with it. First one I have made.
Send us a pic and we will post to our customer projects
That came out nice, I always wondered what size to make my final condo.......? Been 73....😮
Beautiful and appropriate, Rob. Thank you.
Thanks for commenting
Very nice!! Like the design. It does resemble a monument or tomb.
Someone commented it looks like the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and I think they are right
Great topic and terrific service you've done!
Thanks. Happy holidays
Thank you Rob. I am actually making some for my father-in-laws ashes. The only color he could really see was yellow. He loved yellow. So I am making a black walnut case with a live edge yellow epoxy river running the length of the case. So far so good. You are right to call out the interior volume of the case is most important. I love the way yours turned out.
Nice job Rob I liked the final form a lot as well
I have to build also. Thanks Rob
Oh for a friend like you when my time comes. Merry Christmas to you, your family and the whole team.
Merry Christmas to you and yours
I often stew over dimensions …. Too thick… too thin…. I think your dimensions were spot on. When I am stumped I often revert to the golden ratio. I often multiply or divide by 1.62 to get some idea of how to size stuff.
Good technique
I’ve just completed an urn(my first), for my sister-in-law’s grandmother. I was honoured to even be asked to do it. I delivered it last night, then find your video this afternoon. Interestingly enough, the one I made was also predominantly cherry with a raised panel top.
Merry Christmas Cosman family!
Great minds think alike
You look like a robot when your hand planing, the precision and your movements are so precise, very relaxing to watch
Just lots and lots of planing over the years so I guess I do it very robotically! Is that a word?
Hi Rob,
I consider being asked to build an Urn, the ultimate privilege.
It looks great. I am sure the widow will love it.
I made my mom's Urn and gave it to the funeral home for them to enclosed the ashes.
FYI: I was told by the funeral director that the inside dimensions of an Urn must equal 1 cubic inch for each pound the deceased weighed.
Thanks for a good formula
I made a similar urn from cherry for my dads ashes two years ago, informed mostly by your tips on dovetails. The dovetails are crooked but I think it looks appropriately naive and homemade. Ive gotten better but I still like it a lot.
I am sure your dad would love it
Beautiful work Rob
You bet
thank you
That is a nice thing to do for some one. On starting my apprenticeship, I came to hear of a recently deceased former joiner, who was highly regarded for his skill, dedication and passion for his craft. I was told, George had built his own coffin. As a callow youth, I regarded this as macabre, but now at the other end of my career, I can quite see what motivated him to provide for himself in that way. After seeing so many friends and relations carted off in MDF boxes, why would a person accustomed to making high quality joinery not wish for something better? I should say I have not got around to it yet...I guess that might feel too much like tempting fate.
Have yourselves a merry little Christmas and I happy and positive 2022.
Thanks for watching and commenting
You created a beautiful urn that will be more than a piece of wood art. Using your skills and craftsmanship to create something meaningful is nice thought and purpose to what we do. This was a very thoughtful and meaningful video to watch. Thank you for sharing. Take care and have a great holiday.
Thanks for watching and commenting
Well done Rob. Thank you for sharing. Have a great holiday and stay safe.
You also
good job
Thank you sir. For whatever reason, you seemed somewhat hesitant as you made this urn. Whenever I am reminded of my mortality, it impacts my psyche more than I like. And, we all will take our turn being shelved, so to speak. I appreciate your somberness as you worked and your desire for the end product to be pleasing to your client. For me, it is always a challenge to interpret what people want then turn out something for them which pleases them. I used to worry excessively (obsess) about what others would think about my work. I finally accepted that if I am happy with it, they are more than likely to be happy with it as well. Making an urn or other item that will be used in a sacred or extra-special way, I find that prayer helps guide my mind during the process. Blessings to you and yours and we hope for you to have a wonderful Christmas time with family and friends.
Well said....Happy Holidays
Merry Christmas Rob.
Wishing you and yours a wonderful Christmas and New Years' holidays.
to you and yours too
Hopefully my father will thank you from beyond the grave for this, ive struggled w making an appropriate urn fit for a great man
You can do it! I hope this video helps
Rob, nice design and execution. One detail change I would have made: this was a time when the top of the box might had had mitred dovetails to align with the mitred/chamfered top. Thank you for another year of demonstrations and dedication. Warm seasons greetings from Perth, Australia, Derek Cohen.
To add: mitred corners would also have negated the need to make stop grooves with the router table. Instead one could simply use a plough plane. :)
Learn the details of how Rob hand cuts dovetails here: th-cam.com/video/E8SrH6HbDdQ/w-d-xo.html
I've wanted to build an urn that is a right triangle to house my father's ashes. He was a machinist and I always saw him calculating part layouts with triangles, SINs and COSs and TANs.
I am working on how to cut dovetails in a triangle box.....keep watching
great video thanks for sharing Merry Christmas
Happy New year
Thank you and Merry Christmas Rob.
Merry Christmas
Thanks
Wow that looks great! Merry Christmas Rob.
Thanks for watching
That's a beautiful urn.
For future reference, cremated remains are bagged before being placed in temporary urns (the black plastic container pictured in the video) to prevent leaks, as they're cheap and poorly sealed by design. You can safely open the lid without worries about damage or disrespect. That's also the normal practice, as commercial urns aren't sized to hold a temporary urn.
That way, you have a bit more flexibility when it comes to sizing an urn and its proportions in the future.
Good tip, thanks
Monticello (Jefferson's home) is what it reminds me of when you're trying out the base. That's as far as I've gotten.
I think an arched base (Eiffel Tower) would look nice but obviously lower profile and elliptical.
Very nice
Thanks for commenting
urn
noun
1 a tall, rounded vase with a base, and often a stem, especially one used for storing the ashes of a cremated person.
You are actually making a casket which is a wooden box for valuables.
How thick are the sides? Looks like maybe half inch? I’m attempting to make this for my wife’s grandmother. It looks so nice. I hope I can do it.
Merry Christmas!
Happy holidays!
Hello, I liked how you made the urn, I would like to know where your workshop is so that you can help me finish an urn that I am making for a friend. Thank you I am writing from Canada (Pickering)
Thanks Rob, I've been on the look out for a video like this for some inspiration for a friend's daughter. Merry Christmas 🌲☃️
Glad I could help
Beautiful piece, and a nice tribute. I'd love to see a detailed video on the lid, for making door panels. I have a rabbet block plane, now, and hope to get a jack rabbet before too long. I think I see how you did the flat "tongue" on the edge with a table saw. My table saw isn't up to fine woodworking, but I guess one could get close and finish with hand tools. A vertical ledge (field?) at the top of the bevel would be nice, too, for doors and such.
We actually have that very video on our to do list
Reminds me a bit of the Tomb of the Unknowns at Arlington. Not a bad image
You are right, it does look a bit like that !!!!
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Excellent work Rob, I hope it’s your last urn for a good long while. Merry Christmas Cosman Family and everyone in the Cosman nation !
Merry Christmas to you too
Rob, how did you plane the end grain bevel of the raised panel? Did you plane across the grain?
With my 5-1/2 and a freshly sharpened blade. very little projection. planed down hill on the bevel, positioned on my bench so my plane didn't hit the workbench top
Hey Rob, it wouldn't matter for this because it is so small but do you ever pre finish the center panel on a 5 piece door? So when the center panel shrinks and expands seasonally you don't se a line of unfinished wood.
Merry Christmas to you and you family.
Yes, depending on the intricacies of the panel. If it will be difficult to finish as one complete piece, I’ll pre-spray the panel and then tape it off.
Let me try this again, something went goofy.
Recently a colleague and I built a wooden columbarium for our church to house the cremains of parishioners and families who want their loved ones' cremains to be kept inside the narthex (entrance hall) to our sanctuary. (Two units, 18 spaces per unit). The spaces needed to be uniform to make that work. We learned that the general rule of thumb is that one cubic inch of ashes inside the box per pound of the decedent is standard. Thus the cremains of a 200 pound decedent would need about 200 cubic inches of internal space. That's one way of dimensioning your urn box for those who don't want the box to be kept at home or some other location where size and dimension are not relevant.
Wow, great info
Beautiful work as usual 👍🏻
Thanks and happy holidays
Oh I need this now. Just found out my brother died.
Oh my gosh....Sorry for you loss. I hope this video helps with the urn
Would have been nice n Ash too. To soon?
I agree, but I didnt have any ash
I think it is a very meaningful project. With respect to the video I was disappointed that you glossed over making the tongue for the box top when your reference surface is slanted like that. I was wondering how you did it.
I just cut it on the table saw , exactly the
15:30 shows how I cut it on the table saw
Same way i cut the back side of the tongue. The only trick is you have such a small flat reference spot to hold against the fence
Fair enough, I though you did it with a rabbeting plane. Which seemed like it would require to make the tongue first and the slanted surface after.
Thanks for the update! Merry Christmas!
Make a Coffin shape. LOL
I may have missed you saying it, but what thickness were the box sides? Looked like 1/2".
It's really ironic that this came out today, I lost my father Tuesday. And now I have to make one for him to have a resting place..
Sorry for you loss. I hope this video helps your build
So sorry for your loss.
I had the privilege of making the urn for my mother.
Although it was an emotional journey, it was also a very fulfilling one and helped with the grieving process.
@@yvonboudreau3932 That is very good to hear. I hope that it's a helpful thing to get me past this also.
Rebate??? Rabbit!!!!
Exactly !!!
Why does “an urn” sound incorrect? I suppose it’s because the u is silent?
Ok, I will buy that
Would have enjoyed this but too much data rqd.
You mean internet data??
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Well my support for anything Rob Cosman is over. Selling the same $250.00 saw at $1,600 to $2,000.00 just because it has a different handle is just down right greed. As a 20 year veteran I have no more respect for you or your channel. You have lost much respect from many wood workers across the USA. I guess folks are buying these saws as bragging rights as they certainly will cut no different.
Down right greed? I spend 10-12 hours on each one of those handles. Do what you want, but I see no drop in support.
Why did you have to throw in the “20 year veteran” part? You are speaking for yourself, not the rest of us. Its called capitalism and it works so much better than the alternative, communism. I think its great that if you want the handle made by Rob himself, you have that option. Of course it would be spendy. If it was cheap, he would end up having to make them constantly and wouldn’t have time to do any of the other things. By the way, 1600 to 2000 is not even close to how much some of the other master woodworkers of the world charge for saws.